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I don't mind admitting I am a Zionist, but would like to say there are Zionists and there are Zionists.

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  • Jews of France: should they stay or should they go?
    • An excerpt from an article written by my French Jewish friend who ended up emigrating to Australia.

      "When I started junior high school in 1985, the Arab kids found out, I assume from my surname, that I was Jewish. I have never been religious, and never spoke about religion, but they knew.

      They called me 'the Jew'. It started in the play area where I faced a lot of intimidation and nasty remarks. On the bus home, they would regularly stare at me and talk about how much they hated my ‘race’. I never defended myself, they were older, stronger and I was afraid. It was limited to verbal abuse – they never touched me. I still hated going to school because of them. In the late 80s the Arab community was still a minority in the school.

      I was a good student, and probably from a wealthier family than them. I think they mostly hated me for that; the fact that I was Jewish just gave them a reason to express their hatred. Islam didn’t seem important to them at the time. I think they were raised with traditional anti-Semitism through their parents, which was quite common among the North African Arabic community.

      One of my friends who went to a very good public high school in a posh suburb told me that he was also called 'the Jew' by the rich French kids there. Traditional anti-Semitism among the French Catholic families also existed. I was told by some kids who attended Catholic teaching at church that the priest had taught them that the Jews killed Jesus.

      The school environment degraded by the end of my 4 years of junior high school. Kids became more violent, there were fights between Arabs and 'skin heads', small gangs within the school, even gangs of girls, racketeering etc. I certainly didn’t want these new kids to know I was Jewish; they were far rougher than those picking on me before.

      When my brother, 5 years younger than me, started at the school, he was attacked by a kid with a machete. His heavy winter jacket protected him. The offender was evicted and sent to a special school where, a year later, a teacher was killed.

      In year 10 I started senior high school, located just across the street from the junior school. The principal of the high school was a terrifying man and he ran his school with an iron fist. He managed to filter out the bulk of the bad elements and had the best final year results for the area. The few Arab students there were mostly from good families and I never had any issues with them.

      The only difficult moments for me occurred at lunch time. The canteen was located at the junior high school. As I walked past the school, I was bullied by kids hanging outside. Not because I was Jewish - they didn’t know - but because I was white, female, and nicely dressed. One held a pellet gun to my head in one instance, ‘for fun’.

      I did have issues with the anti-Israel and anti-American pamphlets distributed by the Communist youth group at the gate in 1990. I think we all know now what really hides behind anti-Zionism but at the time, it was not commonly heard of. It was mostly expressed by those political minority groups and some leftist teachers. My history teacher in year 12 told us that the Jews kicked the Arabs out of Israel in 1948. I disagreed but was quickly shut up by the teacher and one of the communist kids. Those same kids called me a 'Bourgeoise', because my family had some money, a nice house, and also probably because I was good at school. Social racism. It was unpleasant but I wasn’t afraid of them."

      link to jewsdownunder.com

      Stories like this exemplify the poor prognosis today for European Jewry.

  • Jewish and Palestinian women are segregated in Israeli maternity wards -- Chomsky
    • @John O, I was only offering up some information about a movie related to the topic, not a solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Sorry.

    • Check out the movie The Other Son for an interesting account of what happens in a maternity ward when two young men, one Israeli and one Palestinian, discover they were accidentally switched at birth.

    • In Israeli hospitals, Jewish and Arab patients are treated equally — and even save each other's lives. Read at http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2013/06/crossover-transplantation-israelis-palestinians.html##ixzz3XZp3OIfY 

      This kind of post by Philip aims solely at being divisive; it is just about digging for dirt to chuck at Israel and is nothing more than slander. All hospitals is a false propaganda catch cry.

      Read more at http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/11/world/middleeast/11iht-letter11.html
      about Hadassah Hospital in Jerusalem particularly where "it is the hospital’s policy to treat patients equally regardless of their religious or ethnic background."

      You will never hear of any Arab hospital that would be even willing to take a Jew as a patient.

  • French philosopher who shut down Paris BDS event as 'anti-Semitic' and one-sided will lecture in NY on 'Free Speech'
    • So we have selective free speech i.e. Mondoweiss double standards preventing me from responding to a comment made about a post of mine. Pure hypocrisy!
      @mooser, whatever I might say if it didn't endorse your position you would call it hasbara. This is the classic pro-Palestinian cop-out strategy - if you have nothing to counter a pro-Israel argument you just say the word hasbara.
      I suppose that is not as bad as tossing back at me a pallywag i.e. a pro-Palestinian concoction based on lies or propaganda.

    • Philip bleating about the denial of freedom of speech to BDS advocates is hypocritical.  It is the BDS move­ment that is inher­ently pred­i­cated on the sup­pres­sion of speech and “free exchange of ideas”. Sup­port­ing boy­cotts of Israeli aca­d­e­mics, diplo­mats and per­form­ers is not con­sis­tent with free speech val­ues.  Fur­ther­more, anti-Israel stu­dents can­not legit­i­mately claim to sup­port a “free exchange of ideas” when they reg­u­larly dis­rupt and heckle pro-Israel speak­ers on cam­pus.

      An increas­ing num­ber of anti-Israel groups do not sup­port a free exchange of ideas and explic­itly argue that the pro-Israel voice does not even deserve to be heard. This tac­tic, known as anti-normalization, is increas­ingly being felt by pro-Israel groups on cam­puses across the coun­try whose coun­ter­parts refuse to engage in dia­logue with them and often try to dis­rupt or shut down pro-Israel events. The BDS movement’s supposed com­mit­ment to free speech and an open exchange of ideas is just a one-way street.

  • Iran is 'congenital cheating' 'Islamic power bent on world domination' -- Netanyahu tells US media
    • Do the Iranians get to counter these claims?

      Are you serious Phil? Haven't you signed up for Iran TV? Don't you listen to Iranian official broadcasts or keep up-to-date with the propaganda that they spout in their other state-sponsored media channels?

      Has Iran ever said it is bent on world domination?

      Maybe not world domination but to be a major power player in the Middle East is certainly at the very top of their agenda.

      Why are you so enamored by a framework that is full of vagaries and inconsistencies?

      How does Iran get away with having illegally built the underground Fordow facility?

      Why is nothing in the agreement to stem the Iranian support for their terrorist functionaries in the region?

      Plainly Netanyahu and the rest of the 'free' world has good reason to express serious concerns over a framework that seems to be just serving Obama's wish to get the Iran issue off the table so he can spend more time playing golf.

  • 'She speaks the truth:' Palestinian leftist parliamentarian Khalida Jarrar arrested in early-morning Israeli raid
    • The IDF said it had arrested Khalida Jarrar, a senior political leader of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) due to “substantial concerns about the safety and security of the region.”

      The PFLP organization has been behind a number of attacks on Israeli civilians over a period of some 40 years. Last year, the military confined Jarrar’s movement to the city of Jericho and its surroundings. The army said the restraining order was based on her “incitement and involvement in terror.” Jarrar had persistently flaunted the Israeli ban.

      As recently as November of last year the PFLP took responsibility for a terror attack in which five people were shot and hacked to death with meat cleavers in a bloody assault on a Jerusalem synagogue.

      Sounds like Jarrar might have earned herself a prison sentence.

  • In Israel, the mask is finally off
    • @yonah, you're bang on - Glick is just about propaganda.
      Netanyahu hasn't done anything "to thwart the emergence of a viable and sovereign Palestinian state" because such an emergence is impossible in the current political circumstances. As Netanyahu rightfully said:
      "I think that anyone who goes about establishing a Palestinian state today and vacating territory is giving attack territory to extremist Islam to be used against the state of Israel. That is the real reality that has been created here in recent years. Whoever ignores this is putting his head in the sand.”

      And Arafat could be believed? And Abbas has the confidence and support of the Palestinians to carry through with any kind of deal? Plainly NO.

      And of course the following statement is true

      logic of Zionism doomed those negotiations from the very beginning

       

      not because of Zionism per se but because of the inability of the Palestinians, ever since Zionism established a foothold in Palestine, to accept any kind of  governing Zionist entity i.e. Israel in any part of Palestine.

      So what about the 2002 Arab Peace Initiative with a supposed promise of recognition by the Muslim world? Israel could never trust such a ploy, as peace offered by the Arabs would only be a manouevre to eventually get rid of Israel when the opportunity would present itself. In 2013 defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon dismissed the Arab initiative as “a spin” and “a dictation” that would force Israel to make great concessions before being able to present its own demands.
      Israel could never go back to indefensible borders. Israel got a peace agreement with Egypt and where did that get Israel - hardly the kind of situation that would make Israelis feel confident that conflict with Egypt has been totally eliminated.
      International Relations and Strategic Affairs Minister Yuval Steinitz in the last Likud government, who principally accepts the idea of a (demilitarized) Palestinian state, justifiably has been less than enthusiastic about the Arab Peace Initiative.

      “Every peace initiative is welcome but no peace initiative can replace bilateral negotiations between us and the Palestinians. We need to worry about genuine peace with genuine security — these items are not included in the Arab  Peace Initiative.”

      Steinitz was unwilling to even consider the proposal as a framework for peace talks. "Negotiations are supposed to be bilateral, between Israelis and Palestinians", he said. “There are bilateral issues and it would not be right to discuss them with the entire Arab world, such as demilitarization and security arrangements that are essential for us."

      The Arab League may have endorsed the eponymous peace initiative but, beyond that, has never played a significant role in the Israeli-Palestinian peace track. The Arab League has not been able to make peace in the Arab world — between Algeria and Morocco, between Libya and Sudan, Iraq and Kuwait, and so on and so forth. Why should anyone trust the Arab League with peacemaking?

      Peace can only be made with countries with which one is in a territorial conflict, a veteran diplomatic official concurred. “Peace is a worthwhile objective, yet all promises of regional peace are futile and groundless,” he said. "Negotiations and agreements occur when two parties sit down and try to resolve their conflict", he asserted. "It is true that every time the Palestinians entered negotiations with Israel they did so with the encouragement of Arab states such as Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and at some point also Morocco", he allowed. "But while those countries were able to make a difference in the past, the Arab League as an umbrella organization has never done so."

      And with the widespread dissension across the Arab/Muslim world today one can safely extrapolate the last statement much further to state that it never will in the foreseeable future.

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