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I don't mind admitting I am a Zionist, but would like to say there are Zionists and there are Zionists.

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  • Roger Cohen misses the Palestinian reality
    • You are so far off the money when you castigate those like Roger Cohen who are quite sympathetic to the plight of the Palestinians. There will never be a ground swell driven by hard-edged extremists or the grim world of the marginal as Gamal puts it.

  • 14-year-old girl forced alone into Gaza is another example of the Israeli occupation's cruelty
  • No, hurting Palestinian refugees doesn't help peace
    • Is the author here really concerned about helping peace?
      Are the current machinations of the PLO wanting to disengage from Israel helping peace?

    • "After Palestinians made a historic compromise in recognizing Israel on nearly 80 percent of historic Palestine, the framework for resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict shifted to the two-state solution, whereby Israel would withdraw from the remaining 22 percent of the land"

      Conveniently twisting of history by the author. It is the Jews who have had to make the big sacrifice.

      In July 1922, the League of Nations entrusted Great Britain with the Mandate for Palestine. Recognizing "the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine," Great Britain was called upon to facilitate the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine-Eretz Israel (Land of Israel). Shortly afterwards, in September 1922, the League of Nations and Great Britain decided that the provisions for setting up a Jewish national home would not apply to the area east of the Jordan River, which constituted three-fourths of the territory included in the Mandate and which eventually became the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan.

      And today the propped up Kingdom of Jordan is 80% Palestinian and there is barely a murmur about that from those who only focus on Israel and the Jews.

  • Palestinian activists shut down Bethlehem meeting with US officials: 'you are not welcome anymore!'
    • UNRWA just perpetuates the Israel-Palestine conflict. Its critics have been saying that for a long long time. Finally the Trump administration acknowledged that fact and acted on it. The Palestinians typically reacted to the danger of losing their free handouts.
      The Trump administration won't kowtow to threats and intimidation like “This was a message for the American administration that they are not welcome here anymore in the Palestinian territories until Trump withdraws his declaration on Jerusalem and his continued threats against UNRWA.”
      It's time that Palestinian supporters wake up to the reality that these kind of bullying tactics are doomed to failure today.

  • I'm blacklisted and banned from Israel, but for many others this is nothing new
    • @Talkback, free speech is not a free licence for hate speech.

    • The BDS movement on American university campuses illustrates the true nature of BDS, with repeated shout downs of pro-Israel and free speech advocates. The spread of this BDS tactic shows the movement is a major proponent of intolerance. Like the concept of ‘intersectionality’ and ‘anti-fascist’ protests, these paths inevitably lead to conventional left-wing antisemitism. In this sense BDS exacerbates already yawning gaps in American politics and culture.

  • Netanyahu has taken a wrecking ball to Israel's favorability ratings among Democrats
    • Actually with the Republican support going from 50% to 79% and Democrats support decreasing from 38% to 27% since 2001 simple math tells us that Palestinian support has been declining despite aĺl the hoohaa over Netanyahu and Likud.

  • Why Ahed Tamimi's slap is so thrilling to Palestinians
  • Israeli journalist who called for unspeakable acts against Ahed Tamimi tries, and fails, to backpedal
    • Hate speech.

    • @Robbins, the 'armed resistance' which you justify without hesitation (even rock-throwing) has gone way beyond expressions of discontentment over 'occupation'. It generally operates under the premise of wanting to dismantle Israel as the nation state of the Jewish people.

      Gone too far to the point that the actions are counter-productive, mostly because they stimulate (actively stimulate, maybe even intentionally stimulate) the fear of “what will they do if they are in power?”

      The significance of assiduously moral forms of resistance, non-violent in the meaning of non-harming not just in range of tactic, is that the actions stimulate admiration, rather than generating rational fear.

      Ahed Tamimi has crossed a line. The option is certainly there for those who choose to go beyond the limits. However there is ultimately no impunity for those who look to practise 'armed resistance' and cause harm.

    • A Little Village in the Hills, and the Monsters it Spawns
      How a Family Became a Propaganda Machine
      Adeh Tamimi, a child exploited as a political weapon, indoctrinated from birth by a family with close links to terrorism. Her father banned from entering Australia earlier this year.

  • Pop star 'Lorde' honors BDS call, cancels Tel Aviv concert
    • After being bullied, cajoled, intimidated and threatened she now says this on social media:
      "hey guys, so about this israel show - i've received an overwhelming number of messages & letters and have had a lot of discussions with people holding many views, and i think the right decision at this time is to cancel the show. i pride myself on being an informed young citizen, and i had done a lot of reading and sought a lot of opinions before deciding to book a show in tel aviv, but I'm not too proud to admit i didn't make the right call on this one. tel aviv, it's been a dream of mine to visit this beautiful part of the world for many years, and i'm truly sorry to reverse my commitment to come play for you. i hope one day we can all dance. L x"
      Does this do anything to break the deadlock? This only aggravates the situation re Israel and Palestine and BDS supporters deserve a pat on the back for their on-going idiocy.

  • The never-ending crisis of Zionism
    • Philip Weiss contends "The Palestinian experience today is a lot like the Jewish experience of pogroms 100 years ago and more in eastern Europe. "
      How can people accept this nonsense, drawing fake equivalence between Jewish and Palestinian victimhood? The Jews were totally subjugated by brutal anti-semitic regimes that conducted pogroms against them. The Palestinians instigate attacks against Israelis driven by state-sponsored hate and incitement because they can't get their way and having learnt from the regimes that were fuelled by anti-semitic fervour against Jews they now follow suit.
      The 'Palestinians' missed the boat by reneging on frequent opportunities to strike a peace deal with Israel and now they are coercing the world on the international stage with the implicit threats spread by their Muslim and Left-wing mates around the world to maintain their rabid campaign to get rid of Israel.
      [youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22nTShaXCfg&w=640&h=360%5D

    • Israel doesn't have to justify actions to prevent bloody-minded 'Palestinians' from destroying it, adopting whatever security measures necessary to protect its people. That's nothing to do with Zionism as such - it is all about self-preservation, the right and entitlement of any sovereign nation dealing with enemies that are as implacable as ever.
      Yet again there is nobody to negotiate with as Hamas and Fatah are bound to be at each other's throats again sòon.
      Palestinian unity deal is collapsing

  • In video tours of Palestine, Nas Daily plays native informant
    • @Robbins can't tolerate cultural appropriation but there is nothing wrong with it; the much lauded idea of multiculturalism is to be celebrated. Three Cheers for Cultural Appropriation

    • According to the opiniated Salaita there’s no such thing as “Israeli” hummus and he doesn't like the tenor of Nas Daily. Clearly his contempt stems from his own intransigent views and lack of tolerance for a Palestinian voice that doesn't echo bloody-minded Pallywag mantras day in and day out.

  • US vetoes UN resolution on Jerusalem, as Muslim states recognize East Jerusalem as Palestine's capital
  • Detained Palestinian teen in viral photo to be sentenced in a court with a 99.74 percent conviction rate
    • " 99.74 percent of all cases brought to Israel’s military court end in a guilty verdict, according to the court’s own internal documentation."

      Congratulations to the author for linking to a Haaretz article that is more than 6 years old. The statistic is based on a single year of data, which is now seven years old.
      Moreover the explanation for the high conviction rate can be found here.

      "Colonel Hirsch explained that, in the Israeli military system in the West Bank, a defendant who is acquitted is entitled to both damages and attorney's fees. Such an award, of course, would be paid from the public purse, and would be in addition to the waste of public resources in the form of the prosecutor's own time spent on a failed prosecution.

      For this reason, IDF prosecutors are extremely careful about which cases they bring, and they only bring indictments in cases in which they have a high chance of success. Colonel Hirsch told CAMERA that during the time that he was in charge of the military prosecutors' office, his instruction to his prosecutors was, “if you have any doubt, don't bring an indictment.”

  • How Israel represses the internet in Palestine
    • @Mooser, how's this for a nonsense conclusion by Mr Mohamed " Considering that Israel is widely known as an exporter of sophisticated technologies, perhaps one of the most advanced in the world, the security argument does not hold up" intended to deflect the argument that is talked about in the article I linked to. Mohamed doesn't even mention incitement because he doesn't want to talk about the elephant in the room.
      This story is yet another example of how Palestinian bloody-mindedness comes back to bite them.

    • An article on this subject without mentioning how Palestinians use the internet for incitement and mounting security threats is completely one-sided and vacuous.
      Israel eyes law to remove online content inciting terrorism

  • Palestinian officials say, Trump 'destroyed' the two-state solution
    • @oldgeezer, you are fishing to substantiate a link between the Palestinians and the Canaanites and the best you can do is report from articles that state there is high % of DNA matching with the Canaanites that has been found in the Lebanese population.
      Pray tell what that has to do with the 'Palestinians'.

    • @oldgeezer, heard of genetic fallacy? As it’s name suggests, the genetic fallacy results from attacking the source or origin of information, rather than the information itself. If you think about that for a second, the reason for the confusion becomes clear. By condemning the source in your attempt to counter my comment you have immediately lost the argument.

    • @Misterioso, I didn't have to read much of your diatribe before it was evident that the mud you were slinging was blowing back in your face.
      "The Jebusite/Canaanites, ancestors of today’s Palestinians" - absolute poppycock, refer Palestinians, Jebusites, and Evangelicals.

    • @eljay, the Jewish people have the right to decide that Jerusalem is as significant as it is. Furthermore Israelis have the right to decide where their capital shall be.

      Jews of all backgrounds are familiar with the phrase “le-shanah ha-ba’ah bi-Yerushalayim,” “Next Year in Jerusalem.” It makes two appearances annually in Jewish liturgy: at the conclusion of the Passover Seder and at the conclusion of the Ne’ilah service of Yom Kippur. The custom to say “Next year in Jerusalem” on Passover existed as early as the 13th century, and the phrase itself appears even earlier in piyyutim (liturgical poems) for both Passover and Yom Kippur.

      There is no question that West Jerusalem will remain a part of Israel. There was nothing that Trump said that negates any final status decisions regarding Jerusalem and a Palestinian state.

      The Muslim connection to Jerusalem is built on denial of Jewish heritage, religion and historical entitlement to Jerusalem.

      The Palestinians are the ones responsible for the failure of the two-state solution with Arab opposition to the presence of Israel as a sovereign state going back to 1948 with the foreboding signs for the continuing conflict having been well-entrenched within Islam long long before that.

  • Why a children's book has Zionists losing their minds
    • There is no “P” in the Arabic alphabet used for the Arabic language. Native Arabic vocabulary does not contain a “P” sound which makes the claims of Palestinians to Palestine rather ludicrous when generally they can't even pronounce it properly.

      P is a standard letter in Persian which explains why the Iranian author can say it.

      But more to the point this kind of a book is all about indoctrinating young impressionable children into a view sympathetic to the Palestinian cause before they are old enough to understand the political realities and judge for themselves. It's aim is to win the hearts and minds of the next generation before it is appropriate to do so.

      Take the letter 'I' which according to this little book stands for "I is for Intifada, Arabic for rising up for what is right, if you are a kid or grownup!” which plainly is promoting violent insurrection.

      The real title of the book should be 'P is for Propaganda'.

  • American Jewish visitor forced to sign loyalty oath in order to get tourist visa to Israel
    • Every country does this. Undesirables who are primarily out to disrupt and dissension are considered unwelcome. Being "Jewish" is no free ticket to cause trouble.

  • Dispatch from Gaza on reconciliation between Hamas and the Palestinian Authority
    • @eljay, you resort to the same old quips and remarks without addressing the substance of what I have said. Take off your blinkers and you might see the world differently.

    • @eljay, have to face the sad facts for a change?
      You forgot to mention that Hamas are also unwilling to stem terror attacks.
      The Gaza Strip’s border crossing with Egypt that was due to reopen last Saturday will now remain closed until further notice following the bloody terrorist attack in neighboring Sinai that killed more than 300 people.
      As the author of this article said, "Egypt’s involvement in the agreement lends legitimacy", but that vital support from Egypt now hangs in the balance.

  • A music lesson from Palestine, for Nick Cave
    • New Palestinian Authority textbooks teach “martyrdom as a life goal”

      "Radicalization is pervasive across new curriculum, and much worse than before.

      For years we’ve been covering incitement on the part of the Palestinian Authority (PA) and its failure to prepare Palestinian society for a resolution of the conflict via non-violent means.

      The PA is viewed by the West as the ‘moderate’ Palestinian body and Israel’s supposed ‘partner for peace’, but as we’ve repeatedly highlighted, its officials routinely demonize Israel and glorify terrorists as national heroes. Young people are exposed to this radicalization, as schools and educational programs justify and condone the use of violence.

      The sad reality is that a whole generation of Palestinian children is learning in schools and playing in sports fields and arenas named after mass murders."

      Herein lies the nub of the problem - not whether Nick Cave plays Tel Aviv or not.

  • No way to treat a child
    • @oldgeezer, it was mandated on the PA in the Oslo Accords to address the key issue of the incitement propagated via their education system. There is no equivalence with the education system in Israel which does present information about the history and situation with the Palestinians if you bother to read the IMPACT-se report. In fact the PA is in breach of international law for not adhering to the Oslo accords on this.

    • @amigo you can't compare state-sponsored incitement and terrorism with reactive, nationalistic behaviour from Israeli fringe groups. Furthermore the videos you provide are nothing more than propaganda that fail totally to appreciate the real situation. This article by Lisa Goldman 'Putting Things into Perspective' sums it up nicely:

      "The little girls shown drawing with felt markers on the tank missiles are residents of Kiryat Shmona, which is right on the border with Lebanon. And when I say "on the border," I'm not kidding; there's little more space between their town and Southern Lebanon than there is between the back gardens of neighbouring houses in a wealthy American suburb.

      No, how close is it really?

      Well, there's a famous story in Israel, from the time when the Israeli army occupied Southern Lebanon: a group of soldiers stationed inside southern Lebanon used their mobile phones to order pizza from Kiryat Shmona and have it delivered to the fence that separates the two countries.

      Anyway.

      Kiryat Shmona has been under constant bombardment from South Lebanon since the first day of the conflict. It was a ghost town, explained Shelly. There was not a single person on the streets and all the businesses were closed. The residents who had friends, family or money for alternate housing out of missile range had left, leaving behind the few who had neither the funds nor connections that would allow them to escape the missiles crashing and booming on their town day and night. The noise was terrifying, people were dying outside, the kids were scared out of their minds and they had been told over and over that some man named Nasrallah was responsible for their having to cower underground for days on end.

      On the day that photo was taken, the girls had emerged from the underground bomb shelters for the first time in five days. A new army unit had just arrived in the town and was preparing to shell the area across the border. The unit attracted the attention of twelve photojournalists - Israeli and foreign. The girls and their families gathered around to check out the big attraction in the small town - foreigners. They were relieved and probably a little giddy at being outside in the fresh air for the first time in days. They were probably happy to talk to people. And they enjoyed the attention of the photographers.

      Apparently one or some of the parents wrote messages in Hebrew and English on the tank shells to Nasrallah. "To Nasrallah with love," they wrote to the man whose name was for them a devilish image on television - the man who mockingly told Israelis, via speeches that were broadcast on Al Manar and Israeli television, that Hezbollah was preparing to launch even more missiles at them. That he was happy they were suffering."

      @amigo, I suggest you go read the rest of the article and think a little bit next time before you chuck propaganda at us.

    • Even in Australia the government is talking about introducing anti-terror plans that could see 10-year-olds held without charge. These measures relating to children are not indicative of brutal regimes rather the growth of terror-related activities amongst young people. In the case of Palestinian children they are egged on by an education system that encourages incitement and violence.

  • UK minister forced to resign over secret Israel meetings as questions continue to swirl
    • @amigo, if you want to know I would have preferred their supposedly Arab brethren to take them in but that would have diminished the pressure on Israel. With the complicity of UNRWA 'Palestinian' refugees have been kept on tap as pawns to help exacerbate the conflict.

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