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I don't mind admitting I am a Zionist, but would like to say there are Zionists and there are Zionists.

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  • Bedouin village razed 83 times must pay $500,000 for demolitions, Israel says
    • No doubt Qualtrough armchair anti-Zionists like you have not seen for themselves what has been going on in the Negev for decades - an area where Bedouin squatters have built as far as the eye can see, causing severe damage to nature, the landscape and Israel's heritage in the process. Rather than facing up to the facts related to this topic readers seem to prefer to embark on anti-Israel bashing by bringing up everything else they can think of that is not germane to the current topic
      "Significant tracts of land in the northern Negev are being taken over by those whose goal is indeed "to tear them away from us": Bedouin who, with no planning and no permits, settle in every part of the Negev suitable for habitation. But the authorities - the police, the legal system and the interior, national infrastructure and environmental protection ministries - have done nothing, aside from setting up an inquiry committee every few years.
      Refer to Green extremism threatens Israel's future in the Negev which discussed how Bedouin advocacy organizations and academics, especially from Ben-Gurion University of the Negev, are stirring up opposition to Jewish settlement in the Negev for political reasons.

    • These Bedouin settlements are eye-sores - a blight on the landscape. They cause ecological damage, including destruction of natural habitat, disruption of ecological corridors, introduction of exotic and weedy species, introduction of domesticated species.

      The potential impacts of such uncontrolled Bedouin settlements are:
      - they damage the amount and continuity of open space
      - they cause ecological damage, including destruction of natural habitat, disruption of
      ecological corridors, introduction of exotic and weedy species, introduction of
      domesticated species
      - they lead to an inefficient use of infrastructures, as individual settlements require high per/capita investment in roads, electric wires, and water pipes that are an unwarranted strain on limited economic resources.
      - they represent environment injustice, in that public lands become effectively privatized and the broader public loses access to land.
      While far more politically sensitive, the environmental impact of Bedouin settlement, similar to that of low density Jewish homesteads, is arguably far broader in scope due to sheer numbers. In general, the conflict between land ownership and the people who live on the land, together with the difficulties in managing marginal, economically and politically isolated minorities leads to rapid environmental degradation.
      In Israel, the proliferation of illegal building within the Bedouin sector is a striking and environmentally significant outcome of this conflict and it underlies the importance of linking environmental management to broader issues of social and environmental justice, which the pro-Palestinian brigade don't consider, preferring to concentrate on their single-minded, insanely anti-Israel political agenda.

  • Human rights activists thank Lauryn Hill for canceling upcoming concert in Israel
    • BDS targets Jews explicitly and therefore is anti-semitic. It is definitely reasonable policy of a Justice Minister to be aiming to outlaw discrimination that promotes anti-semitism.
      Jewish students on university campuses will be compelled to defy BDS boycotts in order to obtain kosher products of which much comes from Israel.
      Jews will have to face the stigma and intimidation that comes from being associated with Zionism, which is central and fundamental to the beliefs of the large majority of Jews.
      If BDS catches on Jewish societies will be pressured to cut ties with Israel.
      The trenchant view of Jews as a fifth column, disloyal and dishonest is already spreading. Open anti-Semitism more and more brazenly rears its head across Europe, its proponents bothering less and less to make any distinction between anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism.
      Jews cannot walk the streets of France anymore wearing a kippah. BDS exacerbates the political and social circumstances that help to foster insidious anti-semitic views, that are frequently disguised so as to not be so blatant.
      Woody Allen once said: "“I do feel there are many people that disguise their negative feelings toward Jews, disguise it as anti-Israel criticism, political criticism, when in fact what they really mean is that they don’t like Jews.”

    • @just, most interesting are remarks made by Norman Finkelstein in 2012, who,like you, has made it his business to pursue hatred for Israel. In 2012, however, he declared that the BDS movement is a “hypocritical, dishonest cult like the Munchkin cult in Oz” that tries to pose as human rights activists while in reality their goal is to destroy Israel.

      “I’m getting a little bit exasperated,” he said, “with what I think is a whole lot of nonsense. I’m not going to tolerate silliness, childishness and a lot of leftist posturing. I loathe the disingenuousness. We will never hear the solidarity movement [back a] two-state solution.”

      He also declared that the BDS movement has enjoyed few successes, and that, as in a cult, the leaders pretend they are hugely successful even though the general public rejects their extreme views. Because there have been few victories for the BDS movement, at every opportunity BDS supporters are dishonestly proclaiming triumphs.

    • @Miriam, this trumpeting of a fake victory - it's the name of the dishonest game that is BDS. Any excuse to wave the anti-Israel BDS flag.
      Supporters of BDS movement claim that it seeks to advance human rights and justice for disenfranchised Palestinians without harming the rights of Israelis. MW stalwarts can refer back to this Mondoweiss interview that Haider Eid, a Palestinian academic based in Gaza and leading BDS advocate, delivered in December 2013.
      “Eid openly admitted that he favoured the elimination of the existing State of Israel, and its replacement by an Arab majority state of Greater Palestine. He termed the alternative proposal for a two-state solution a "racist solution" because it included - wrongly, in his opinion - a recognition of the national rights of Israeli Jews.
      He added that Jews were a religious group, not a nation. For Eid, ideals such as human rights and democracy only deserved to be applied to Palestinians, but not to Israelis.
      Similar nationalist zealotry was espoused by the BDS movement's leading spokesperson, Omar Barghouti, in a recent issue of Settler Colonial Studies.
      As with many BDS advocates, Barghouti's principal anger is directed not at Israeli and Jewish hawks who deny the legitimacy of Palestinian aspirations, but rather at left-wing Zionists and others who support a two-state solution that recognizes both Israeli and Palestinian national rights. Like Eid, Barghouti fondly cites ideals such as freedom, justice and equality, but he only supports their application to Palestinians not Israelis.
      The complete disinterest of Eid and Barghouti in any strategies to progress Israeli-Palestinian peace and reconciliation arguably takes us back to the rejectionist views of much earlier times. The famous Arab summit held at Khartoum in August 1967 proudly trumpeted: "No peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, no negotiations with Israel." Similarly, as we argue in our new book, Boycotting Israel is Wrong: The Progressive Path to Peace between Palestinians and Israelis, the BDS movement rejects any dialogue or normalisation of relations with Israel, as well as any prospect of a win-win solution for both Palestinians and Israelis. Rather, Palestinian rights and interests can only be advanced according to the BDS movement by ending Israeli statehood.”
      Refer article about new book slamming BDS.

  • One rocket from Gaza outweighs 6 Israeli incursions and 67 attacks
    • Israeli attacks on Gaza during a nearly 4 month period with ZERO projectile fire

      There are constant efforts being made by Hamas to rearm itself.
      The false suggestion here is that the only actions that Gazans try to inflict upon Israel are firing rockets.
      Nobody is privy to the security issues and threats that keep occurring in Gaza. Israel is not conducting raids into enemy territory for the fun of it.

  • Forgiving the anti-Semites
    • @eljay, the Nazis in their negotiations with al-Husseini had plenty planned for the Jews living in Palestine at the time, which would have potentially done a lot to damage Israel and Israelis. Note that in law a crime intended and foiled is nevertheless a punishable crime.

  • UN: 'Not a single destroyed home has been rebuilt' in Gaza since Israeli war last summer
    • @talknic, you really are proving to be a total ignoramus. Only 5 days ago this news report that
      Iran is transferring large amounts of cash to Hamas military wing
      The cash is coming in all right but being diverted into Hamas's favourite anti-Israel pastime - rebuilding their tunnel network and replenishing their supply of medium-range missiles.

    • @blah chick, from what do the Gazans have to defend themselves? Don't they realise that Israel would leave them alone if they hadn't been lobbing thousands of rockets into Israel with the purpose of killing as many innocent Israeli civilians as possible.
      Israel left Gaza unilaterally in 2006 and Hamas decided to turn Gaza into a launching platform for attacks against Israel instead of building a viable society there. Smuggling weapons into Gaza is hardly conducive to establishing any kind of a peace.
      BTW, the true bully on the block is across the river in ISIS land. Hamas aspires to be like ISIS.

    • Chris Gunness is nothing more than a propaganda apologist for Hamas and an advocate for UNRWA that has a vested interest in highlighting and maintaining the plights of Palestinian refugees to help stock its coffers. During the last Gaza war his organisation was implicated when rocket caches were discovered in three UNRWA schools.
      Blaming Israel for Gaza’s reconstruction delays is wilful ignorance and of course the usual suspects at MW are happy to lap up this kind of deceitful propaganda.
      As of January, Israel had dispatched some 50,000 tons of construction material, and in February probably 20,000 tons more - and they were delivered to residents directly under the COGAT protocol that Israel and UNRWA had worked out.
      It seems that Gaza residents who lost their homes are preferring to resell their construction materials to rebuilding their homes. Indubitably much of that material is being used to rebuild terrorist tunnels - something Hamas and Islamic Jihad are bragging about.
      Based on the photos coming out of Gaza, not only are no houses being built - but the heavily damaged buildings haven't even been removed!
      Hamas knows quite well that the photos of Gaza devastation translates into cash that will be donated for reconstruction - for materials that Hamas will end up using for terror. So Hamas has no real incentive to help rebuild Gaza.

  • Non-Jewish Israelis remain faceless, nameless, voiceless in 'New York Times' coverage
    • A document prepared by the UNSCOP (The United Nations Special Committee on Palestine) in 1947proposed a Partition Plan to divide Palestine into two independent, democratic states – a Jewish one and an Arab one. As we all know, a democratic Palestinian state – and certainly not a democratic one – never did come into existence.
      Referring to Israel's Declaration of Independence one can throw some light on to the character of the state of Israel:
      "ACCORDINGLY WE, MEMBERS OF THE PEOPLE'S COUNCIL, REPRESENTATIVES OF THE JEWISH COMMUNITY OF ERETZ-ISRAEL AND OF THE ZIONIST MOVEMENT, ARE HERE ASSEMBLED ON THE DAY OF THE TERMINATION OF THE BRITISH MANDATE OVER ERETZ-ISRAEL AND, BY VIRTUE OF OUR NATURAL AND HISTORIC RIGHT AND ON THE STRENGTH OF THE RESOLUTION OF THE UNITED NATIONS GENERAL ASSEMBLY, HEREBY DECLARE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A JEWISH STATE IN ERETZ-ISRAEL, TO BE KNOWN AS THE STATE OF ISRAEL. "
      "WE APPEAL - in the very midst of the onslaught launched against us now for months - to the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel to preserve peace and participate in the upbuilding of the State on the basis of full and equal citizenship and due representation in all its provisional and permanent institutions. "
      One can conclude that Israel is a flawed democracy as are all democracies anyway and it's being a 'Jewish' state does not preclude it from being classified as a democracy.

    • Nothing is stopping any of the other countries in the Middle East from donating their help to the victims of the earthquake in Nepal but .....
      And the last time I checked Israel is a Jewish state notwithstanding all the efforts by the Palestinians to deny that fact.

  • EU must take stronger action to sanction Israel following high court decision banning boycott
    • The US Senate Finance Committee has unanimously voted in favor of an amendment to discourage European participation in the boycott, divestment and sanctions movement against Israel.
      "The amendment, which was tacked onto a larger piece of trade legislation that establishes Congressional trade objectives, is intended to apply specifically to an emerging free trade agreement between the U.S. and Europe.
      "While the language of the amendment does not directly specify punitive action toward countries that boycott Israel, the implication is that U.S.-E.U. free trade relations are conditional upon European countries abstaining from the BDS movement.
      "The senate committee's amendment specifically targets an E.U. decision to cut economic support for Israeli settlements. In 2013, the European body submitted policy guidelines that required any Israeli entity seeking economic cooperation or funding from the E.U. to file a declaration asserting it is not linked to the West Bank, East Jerusalem or the Golan Heights.
      "The American Israel Public Affairs Committee has been working with members of Congress since at least last year to draft legislation that would discourage Europe from continuing these policies. Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.), the author of the amendment, first offered the anti-BDS language as a separate bill, which he announced at AIPAC’s annual policy conference in March.
      “When you have a boycott, divestment and sanctions movement, you’re discriminating against Israel,” Cardin told a packed auditorium at the pro-Israel gathering. “And the United States should take a stance to make sure other countries that want trade agreements with the United States do not participate in BDS against Israel."
      On Wednesday, several lawmakers described E.U. policy as the latest form of discrimination against Israel. “From the time it was founded, Israel has been the target of a lot of attacks,” said Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio), a co-sponsor of Cardin's original bill. “From military or terrorist groups, but now there’s also this other attack. And in a way it's more pernicious because it is economic warfare.”
      Before casting his vote, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said it was “appalling” that E.U. members boycott Israel but not other countries in the region with poor human rights records. “They just pick out Israel. Even though Israel is a democracy and has far greater provisions for human rights and protections of all people than any of the surrounding countries do,” he said.
      "Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) described the European policy as anti-Semitic. “As the son of parents who fled Nazi Germany in the '30s, I have been troubled by the rise of anti-Semitism in Europe and around the world,” he said. “We shouldn’t let American trade policy be used in any kind of fashion that would in some ways show a tolerance for that kind of anti-Semitism."

  • Jews of France: should they stay or should they go?
    • anti-Semitic attacks in Europe are correlated with violent Israeli assaults

      An escalation in retribution by the Nazis against the Czech people in WWII can also be correlated with the assassination of the SS ‘Butcher of Prague’ Reinhard Heydrich, so should one have said to the Czech people to not carry such actions against their enemy?

      Anti-semites use events like the Gaza war as an excuse to accelerate their efforts. To think that placating the Nazis would have lessened their murderous actions is as naïve as suggesting that endemic Muslim judeophobia, which has blossomed into the full-blooded new anti-Semitism of today, would lessen its venomous actions against Jews if they were to fawn to Muslims as they were compelled to do in the dhimmi days.

      The writing is sadly on the wall.

    • to call for an end to Gaza calamities in their own self-interest: such an argument might actually save some lives

      If Hamas had agreed to a ceasefire that had been proposed by Egypt and agreed to by Israel when the death toll of Palestinians had been at 200 then further loss of life would have been avoided but they didn't, preferring to sacrifice the lives of their citizens to continue attacking Israel.

    • An excerpt from an article written by my French Jewish friend who ended up emigrating to Australia.

      "When I started junior high school in 1985, the Arab kids found out, I assume from my surname, that I was Jewish. I have never been religious, and never spoke about religion, but they knew.

      They called me 'the Jew'. It started in the play area where I faced a lot of intimidation and nasty remarks. On the bus home, they would regularly stare at me and talk about how much they hated my ‘race’. I never defended myself, they were older, stronger and I was afraid. It was limited to verbal abuse – they never touched me. I still hated going to school because of them. In the late 80s the Arab community was still a minority in the school.

      I was a good student, and probably from a wealthier family than them. I think they mostly hated me for that; the fact that I was Jewish just gave them a reason to express their hatred. Islam didn’t seem important to them at the time. I think they were raised with traditional anti-Semitism through their parents, which was quite common among the North African Arabic community.

      One of my friends who went to a very good public high school in a posh suburb told me that he was also called 'the Jew' by the rich French kids there. Traditional anti-Semitism among the French Catholic families also existed. I was told by some kids who attended Catholic teaching at church that the priest had taught them that the Jews killed Jesus.

      The school environment degraded by the end of my 4 years of junior high school. Kids became more violent, there were fights between Arabs and 'skin heads', small gangs within the school, even gangs of girls, racketeering etc. I certainly didn’t want these new kids to know I was Jewish; they were far rougher than those picking on me before.

      When my brother, 5 years younger than me, started at the school, he was attacked by a kid with a machete. His heavy winter jacket protected him. The offender was evicted and sent to a special school where, a year later, a teacher was killed.

      In year 10 I started senior high school, located just across the street from the junior school. The principal of the high school was a terrifying man and he ran his school with an iron fist. He managed to filter out the bulk of the bad elements and had the best final year results for the area. The few Arab students there were mostly from good families and I never had any issues with them.

      The only difficult moments for me occurred at lunch time. The canteen was located at the junior high school. As I walked past the school, I was bullied by kids hanging outside. Not because I was Jewish - they didn’t know - but because I was white, female, and nicely dressed. One held a pellet gun to my head in one instance, ‘for fun’.

      I did have issues with the anti-Israel and anti-American pamphlets distributed by the Communist youth group at the gate in 1990. I think we all know now what really hides behind anti-Zionism but at the time, it was not commonly heard of. It was mostly expressed by those political minority groups and some leftist teachers. My history teacher in year 12 told us that the Jews kicked the Arabs out of Israel in 1948. I disagreed but was quickly shut up by the teacher and one of the communist kids. Those same kids called me a 'Bourgeoise', because my family had some money, a nice house, and also probably because I was good at school. Social racism. It was unpleasant but I wasn’t afraid of them."

      link to jewsdownunder.com

      Stories like this exemplify the poor prognosis today for European Jewry.

  • Jewish and Palestinian women are segregated in Israeli maternity wards -- Chomsky
    • @John O, I was only offering up some information about a movie related to the topic, not a solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Sorry.

    • Check out the movie The Other Son for an interesting account of what happens in a maternity ward when two young men, one Israeli and one Palestinian, discover they were accidentally switched at birth.

    • In Israeli hospitals, Jewish and Arab patients are treated equally — and even save each other's lives. Read at http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2013/06/crossover-transplantation-israelis-palestinians.html##ixzz3XZp3OIfY 

      This kind of post by Philip aims solely at being divisive; it is just about digging for dirt to chuck at Israel and is nothing more than slander. All hospitals is a false propaganda catch cry.

      Read more at http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/11/world/middleeast/11iht-letter11.html
      about Hadassah Hospital in Jerusalem particularly where "it is the hospital’s policy to treat patients equally regardless of their religious or ethnic background."

      You will never hear of any Arab hospital that would be even willing to take a Jew as a patient.

  • French philosopher who shut down Paris BDS event as 'anti-Semitic' and one-sided will lecture in NY on 'Free Speech'
    • So we have selective free speech i.e. Mondoweiss double standards preventing me from responding to a comment made about a post of mine. Pure hypocrisy!
      @mooser, whatever I might say if it didn't endorse your position you would call it hasbara. This is the classic pro-Palestinian cop-out strategy - if you have nothing to counter a pro-Israel argument you just say the word hasbara.
      I suppose that is not as bad as tossing back at me a pallywag i.e. a pro-Palestinian concoction based on lies or propaganda.

    • Philip bleating about the denial of freedom of speech to BDS advocates is hypocritical.  It is the BDS move­ment that is inher­ently pred­i­cated on the sup­pres­sion of speech and “free exchange of ideas”. Sup­port­ing boy­cotts of Israeli aca­d­e­mics, diplo­mats and per­form­ers is not con­sis­tent with free speech val­ues.  Fur­ther­more, anti-Israel stu­dents can­not legit­i­mately claim to sup­port a “free exchange of ideas” when they reg­u­larly dis­rupt and heckle pro-Israel speak­ers on cam­pus.

      An increas­ing num­ber of anti-Israel groups do not sup­port a free exchange of ideas and explic­itly argue that the pro-Israel voice does not even deserve to be heard. This tac­tic, known as anti-normalization, is increas­ingly being felt by pro-Israel groups on cam­puses across the coun­try whose coun­ter­parts refuse to engage in dia­logue with them and often try to dis­rupt or shut down pro-Israel events. The BDS movement’s supposed com­mit­ment to free speech and an open exchange of ideas is just a one-way street.

  • Iran is 'congenital cheating' 'Islamic power bent on world domination' -- Netanyahu tells US media
    • Do the Iranians get to counter these claims?

      Are you serious Phil? Haven't you signed up for Iran TV? Don't you listen to Iranian official broadcasts or keep up-to-date with the propaganda that they spout in their other state-sponsored media channels?

      Has Iran ever said it is bent on world domination?

      Maybe not world domination but to be a major power player in the Middle East is certainly at the very top of their agenda.

      Why are you so enamored by a framework that is full of vagaries and inconsistencies?

      How does Iran get away with having illegally built the underground Fordow facility?

      Why is nothing in the agreement to stem the Iranian support for their terrorist functionaries in the region?

      Plainly Netanyahu and the rest of the 'free' world has good reason to express serious concerns over a framework that seems to be just serving Obama's wish to get the Iran issue off the table so he can spend more time playing golf.

  • 'She speaks the truth:' Palestinian leftist parliamentarian Khalida Jarrar arrested in early-morning Israeli raid
    • The IDF said it had arrested Khalida Jarrar, a senior political leader of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) due to “substantial concerns about the safety and security of the region.”

      The PFLP organization has been behind a number of attacks on Israeli civilians over a period of some 40 years. Last year, the military confined Jarrar’s movement to the city of Jericho and its surroundings. The army said the restraining order was based on her “incitement and involvement in terror.” Jarrar had persistently flaunted the Israeli ban.

      As recently as November of last year the PFLP took responsibility for a terror attack in which five people were shot and hacked to death with meat cleavers in a bloody assault on a Jerusalem synagogue.

      Sounds like Jarrar might have earned herself a prison sentence.

  • In Israel, the mask is finally off
    • @yonah, you're bang on - Glick is just about propaganda.
      Netanyahu hasn't done anything "to thwart the emergence of a viable and sovereign Palestinian state" because such an emergence is impossible in the current political circumstances. As Netanyahu rightfully said:
      "I think that anyone who goes about establishing a Palestinian state today and vacating territory is giving attack territory to extremist Islam to be used against the state of Israel. That is the real reality that has been created here in recent years. Whoever ignores this is putting his head in the sand.”

      And Arafat could be believed? And Abbas has the confidence and support of the Palestinians to carry through with any kind of deal? Plainly NO.

      And of course the following statement is true

      logic of Zionism doomed those negotiations from the very beginning

       

      not because of Zionism per se but because of the inability of the Palestinians, ever since Zionism established a foothold in Palestine, to accept any kind of  governing Zionist entity i.e. Israel in any part of Palestine.

      So what about the 2002 Arab Peace Initiative with a supposed promise of recognition by the Muslim world? Israel could never trust such a ploy, as peace offered by the Arabs would only be a manouevre to eventually get rid of Israel when the opportunity would present itself. In 2013 defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon dismissed the Arab initiative as “a spin” and “a dictation” that would force Israel to make great concessions before being able to present its own demands.
      Israel could never go back to indefensible borders. Israel got a peace agreement with Egypt and where did that get Israel - hardly the kind of situation that would make Israelis feel confident that conflict with Egypt has been totally eliminated.
      International Relations and Strategic Affairs Minister Yuval Steinitz in the last Likud government, who principally accepts the idea of a (demilitarized) Palestinian state, justifiably has been less than enthusiastic about the Arab Peace Initiative.

      “Every peace initiative is welcome but no peace initiative can replace bilateral negotiations between us and the Palestinians. We need to worry about genuine peace with genuine security — these items are not included in the Arab  Peace Initiative.”

      Steinitz was unwilling to even consider the proposal as a framework for peace talks. "Negotiations are supposed to be bilateral, between Israelis and Palestinians", he said. “There are bilateral issues and it would not be right to discuss them with the entire Arab world, such as demilitarization and security arrangements that are essential for us."

      The Arab League may have endorsed the eponymous peace initiative but, beyond that, has never played a significant role in the Israeli-Palestinian peace track. The Arab League has not been able to make peace in the Arab world — between Algeria and Morocco, between Libya and Sudan, Iraq and Kuwait, and so on and so forth. Why should anyone trust the Arab League with peacemaking?

      Peace can only be made with countries with which one is in a territorial conflict, a veteran diplomatic official concurred. “Peace is a worthwhile objective, yet all promises of regional peace are futile and groundless,” he said. "Negotiations and agreements occur when two parties sit down and try to resolve their conflict", he asserted. "It is true that every time the Palestinians entered negotiations with Israel they did so with the encouragement of Arab states such as Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and at some point also Morocco", he allowed. "But while those countries were able to make a difference in the past, the Arab League as an umbrella organization has never done so."

      And with the widespread dissension across the Arab/Muslim world today one can safely extrapolate the last statement much further to state that it never will in the foreseeable future.

  • Meet the Knesset members from the Joint List
  • Landmark New York Synagogue attempts to shut down Nakba discussion
    • Mooser can freely display his mocking disdain of Judaism.

      If I were to cast the slightest aspersion against Mohammed I would get stomped on immediately by an Islamophilic MW moderator. Similar remarks about Muslims would never be permitted at MW. This goes to show that MW openly practises duplicity and double standards in this whole discussion space. 

  • Separating anti-Semitism from anti-Zionism
    • No need to make any mention of the Holocaust as Sydney University professor demonstrates the insidious anti-semitism that permeates the Palestinian camp. No blind support of Israel here - just Jewish university students wanting to hear what Colonel Richard Kemp had to say, but that was too much for the Palestinian supporters who only believe in a confected form of 'free speech' that permits pro-Palestinian propaganda to be spouted.

      When anti-Zionism is pursued to the neglect of other concerns that are true examples of criminal assaults on the freedom and integrity of other people like Russia in Ukraine, China in Tibet, Sudan or Sri-Lanka; the singling out of Israel out of all the world's other conflict situations cannot be seen as being just anti-Zionism. So many ‘anti-Zionists’ who get manically enraged pointing their crooked little fingers in the direction of Israel are white/middle class/privileged people apparently from the 'left'. They chant in unison with Islamists who have re-invented the slogans of anti-semitism.  It is nothing more than the guilt of class attempting to defend the underdog, the old worn-out image of the international socialist who hangs his philosophical heart strings on a convenient myth. This deliberately ignores the underlying facts and becomes a means of feeling smug about yourself as a human being.

  • 'NYT' reports 'surge of hostile sentiment against Jews' nationwide -- on what basis?
    • Having a name like Roth doesn't mean that you aren't anti-semitic? Also it is well known that some of the most ferocious anti-semites are Jews.

  • Pelosi blasts Netanyahu speech as 'insult to intelligence of U.S.', Amanpour calls it 'dark, Strangelovian'
  • Netanyahu's speech and the American Jewish condition
  • Oxfam says Gaza reconstruction will take a century to complete due to Israeli blockade
  • What we talk about when we talk about ISIS
    • @Bandolero, you are the one spewing the nonsense.
      You can't conflate the Saudi government which is <a href="link to news.yahoo.com to stop ISIS from starting a sectarian war in their own country with ISIS today.

      The ideological roots of wahabism may have been born within Saudi Arabia but you can't consequently blame the Saudi government for what is happening today and implicate Israel in the process. It's false logic. Osama bin Laden was a Saudi but ultimately a sworn enemy of the Saudi regime.

      When weeds appear in a nurtured lawn you try and remove them, but you don''t solve the problem by blaming the gardener because he created an environment where weeds might grow. You look to poisoning the weeds so they don't harm your lawn excessively. So it is with any society in which evil forces develop - the government seeks to find the dangerous elements that threaten its well-being and eliminate them.

  • Banksy goes to Gaza
  • Israel turns off power to hundreds of thousands of Palestinians in the dead of winter
    • @Kris, using ad hominems demonstrates the paucity of your arguments. This goes for the large majority of commenters at MW who love to abuse those who defend Israel by perverting their names (me included). Such derogatory tactics only cheapen the Palestinian cause and are no substitute for truth and open, honest discussion.

  • The 15 billion dollar deal that will make or break Israel's regional hegemony
    • @walid, what you are saying about Lebanon doesn't make sense. It sounds like they are shooting themselves in the foot.

    • It's not a matter of dependence on Israel - it's a matter of avoiding co-operation at all costs to maintain the pressure on Israel. Instead of opening up the region to new economic development, which can only benefit all participants, these poisonous efforts aim to fight any normalization of relations with Israel. This kind of negativity will only help to prolong the conflict.

      It seems like the PA would prefer their own people to wallow in poverty than to encourage improvements in their living conditions - all in an effort to sustain their grievances against Israel. No wonder Israel could not strike a peace deal with the PA when this is their mindset.

      Besides making a tenured career for the PA of standing in line to receive international welfare handouts this reinforces that there's no business like Palestinian Cause business.

  • Inflammatory posters at UCLA call Students for Justice in Palestine 'Jew haters' (Updated)
  • Jewish groups that blindly support Israel make US and European Jews potential victims of violence -- Avnery
    • Half-wit Avineri is no better than the Swedish radio interviewer who asked the Israeli ambassador to Sweden, "Are Jews causing anti-Semitism?"

      Sweden state radio took the rare step of publicly apologizing, and even wiped the question from the recording of the interview found in its digital archive

      Hanif Bali, chairman of the Swedish-Israeli Friendship Association in Sweden's parliament, wrote a strongly worded post on his own Facebook page and received an influx of comments, shares, and likes. "Swedish state radio asked the Israeli ambassador if Jews bear responsibility for anti-Semitism," he revealed.

      "That's disgusting and insane. The claim that Jews bear responsibility for anti-Semitism is one of the most ancient expressions of anti-Semitism."said Bali.

      Sadly Avineri is unaware of how the Arab world adopted the fundamental tenets of Christian anti-semitism during the 1920s through Hasan al-Banna with the birth of the Muslim Brotherhood which reshaped the new anti-semitic political doctrine of Islamism that is rampant today.

  • Roger Waters urged Alan Parsons to get 'insight' at the apartheid wall (and drew ad hominem attack)
    • For obvious reasons (like to demean Israel at every opportunity) many are deliberately misleading by mixing "Rebels" with Jihadists like ISIS.

      Rebels include those who defected from SAA army + local militia, and fighting their own government. Hence term "Rebel".

      Jihadist like ISIS / Al Qaeda / Al Nusra, have a different agenda are mostly foreigners and the one referred to as terrorists by the west.

      So Jihadist and FSA (aka Rebels) are not the same group. Syria is a 4 way war and so many are confused, but some like Walid like to confuse deliberately to push their mossad / cia conspiracy theories.

    • @walid, referring to Israel's pals at ISIS is this a stupid misprint or have you decided to join the league of offensive commenters who resort to bullsh*t to make their case.

  • Hate in the aftermath of Chapel Hill
    • The man who organised the Muslim 'human shield' to protect a synagogue blamed Jews for 9/11.

      Ali Chishti admitted he believed in Jewish conspiracy theories as recently as 2009. He gave a speech at an debate in 2009 where he questioned whether Jewish people had advance knowledge of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. At a March 2008 meeting in Oslo promoting his 9/11 conspiracy theory that the Jews were responsible for the World Trade Center attacks, Chishti read a speech titled, “Therefore I Hate Jews And Gays,”. He now describes his comments at the time as “outrageous” and says his views on community relations had been on a journey.

      “I have reflected some state of affairs since then. I was quite angry at the time. After that meeting I discussed Islam part, and I eventually got a nuanced picture of the whole," he told the Norwegian newspaper Verdens Gang.

      But there is more to this feel good story:

      According to Haaretz the event featured a human chain around Oslo’s main synagogue by more than 1,000 people, many of them Muslim.

      But this was a media beatup where in fact just 20 Muslims holding hands become 1,000-Strong ‘Ring of Peace’ at the Oslo Synagogue.

      As it turns out, as many as 40 times more Northern European Muslims attended the funeral of a Copenhagen Muslim terrorist than those who decided to form the non-existent “ring of peace” around an Oslo synagogue.

  • Israel sentences Palestinian teen Lina Khattab to 6 months in prison for protesting
    • @Robbins, we agree!

      The conviction rates are as you say.
      The conviction rate in Israel is very high, over 99% but this very same conviction rate applies to ALL courts in the Israeli judicial system.

      Yes Annie - there is no discrimination against Palestinians - they are subject to the same conviction rate as ordinary Israelis.

      "An interesting feature of the Israeli criminal justice system – other than the enormous conviction rate – is the lenient sentencing. From what I know of the UK and USA, judges in Israel are very easy when sentencing."

    • That Khattab is technically a 'teen' is being exploited for propaganda purposes. The idea is to give the impression that Khattab is just a poor innocent child when that is most definitely not the case.

    • I made a comment that seems to have been too 'clever' so it got censored. So this is the name of the game is it - to not allow people to express themselves if it goes too close to hitting a raw nerve?

      I likened LK to another Palestinian activist with the same initials and suggested Khattab might well be a [....] wannabe.

      Tell me why should Israeli authorities lock up for a long period an innocent person or someone who had only committed a minor offence. Nobody here really knows what Khattab has actually done and supporters of her are more than willing to distort and exaggerate Khattab's sorry circumstances. If anyone knew what she had done wrong then they wouldn't want to admit it in case it could damage the Palestinian cause. Imprisoning somebody who doesn't deserve it would only invite the venomous wrath of the bash-Israel-at-every-opportunity brigade which is hardly going to serve Israel's interests.

      One can only conclude that Khattab has done something serious and is a definite threat to Israel's national security. 

    • How can Khattab be referred to as a teen when she is old enough to vote? A teenager is an adolescent, youth, minor or juvenile - Khattab is clearly not a teenager.

  • One-state 'fantasy is very dangerous' because it cannot tell us what the military looks like -- Manekin
    • it’s the longest running hostile occupation on the planet

      @annie, can you switch sides just for a minute and see that from the other perspective that perhaps the deadlock remains because there is an unwillingness from the Palestinians and their Arab brethren right across the Middle East to let go, to truly resolve the conflict, to lay to rest fundamental enmities that were born and bred in Islam, to permit has ve halila a Jewish sovereign presence in their midst.

  • Boteach and Israeli ambassador say everything from BDS to Abbas places Jews under threat
    • Last month the former AP reporter Matti Friedman delivered a resounding speech exposing the wilful distortion of the facts concerning Israel in the media. Expanding on a widely-noted argument first set out in Tablet and The Atlantic, Friedman spoke about how the media dissect and magnify Israel’s flaws while purposely erasing those of its enemies. He spoke about a fashionable and extravagant disgust for Israel among many in the West, and the rise of a ‘cult of the Occupation’ which positions Jewish arrogance and perfidy  at the heart of all the problems of the Middle East. Friedman's inside information supports exactly what Boteach and Prosor contend and exposes the campaign for deliberately biased, unjustifiable treatment of Israel in the world arena.
      [youtube link to youtube.com

      Prosor delivered a resounding speech to the UN recently which is hard to refute. I would hope for rational responses to it rather than the usual flurry of abuse that comes forth from Mondoweiss' hardcore. Where have all the thinking minds gone - all we are left with are the Moosers and Seafoids of the world who can only scream blue murder to anything that gets said.

  • Netanyahu calls on Jews to leave Europe en masse in wake of Copenhagen synagogue attack
    • Ramzi Jaber has an epiphany but what does it have to do with the topic at hand?

      Netanyahu would fail in his role and responsibility as a leader of the Jewish people if he would not offer a home to those who want to flee Denmark.
      "Terror is not a reason to move to Israel," said Rabbi Jair Melchior is all the chief rabbi of Denmark could say. Great consolation!

      So what would be a proper reason for the Jews to leave Denmark - should they wait until the writing is all over the wall as the Jews did in Europe before the Nazi threat became irreversible?

      The dear rabbi doesn't want to lose his job and is foolishly more concerned about that than the welfare of his imperiled community.

      My sympathies to Mondoweissers who find all this anti-semitism so dreadfully inconvenient as it distracts the world from the Israel-Palestinian conflict as much more significant pressing international problems and issues take centre stage.
      The sheer idiocy of those flying false-flag allegations show how desperate some pundits are to defuse the overwhelming message as to what is happening in Europe today.
      And odd isn't that all the terrorism to speak of today is Islamic, yet the Danish Prime Minister Helle Thorning-Schmidt cannot, as Obama cannot, bring herself to use the word Islamic in conjunction with 'terrorism'. All because of Intimidation that is known by its other name Islamophobia.

  • A place where Palestine doesn't exist (Notes from a Zionist education)
    • Somehow the anti-Zionist mentality believes that when an anti-Zionist JEW in particular speaks out it adds special credibility to their case. To get a Jew to denigrate Israel is worth much more in the war of words than a non-Jew, who can always be fobbed off as an anti-semite. This is nothing more than a Jew demonstrating his disconnection from his own identity; a Jew who succumbs to the propaganda of the delegitimization, slurring campaign against Israel, to which he has now become complicit.

      taught that sympathizing with Palestinians was something absolutely un-Jewish

      This assertion is plainly false as Jews have been amongst the most prominent in popular movements worldwide that have fought for the rights of minorities and the oppressed. On the other hand our 'Palestinian' counterparts have truly adopted a narrative that will not entertain any accommodation to the Jewish predicament, as is most evident in the anti-normalization movement and the bigotry of Holocaust deniers. Any 'Palestinian' who empathises with the concerns of the Jewish people is destined to become an outcast. This cynical, blind double standard demonstrates the hypocrisy behind the 'Palestinian' cause.

  • Three Muslim-Americans murdered in North Carolina by gunman (Updated)
    • @Robbins, yes so tiresome isn't it if you happen to be pushing your own agenda and anti-semitic events keep occurring to distract from your nefarious ambitions.

    • @lysias, pray tell how many more people are Islamists killing today than they were prior to 2001?

      Furthermore upon reading the post that you linked to from the Washington Post there is a graph showing that in 2013 Jews had almost 6 times the number of hate crimes inflicted upon them than Muslims had and the Muslim population exceeds the Jewish population in the United States.

      As for the reportage of this triple murder it seems to be getting wide publicity as I just read the story through the Australian news media

      Sad event but the knee-jerk reactivity is another story. There seems to be lynch mob mentality out there that is wanting to emulate the behavior of the Ku Klux Klan.

      To my mind these kind of events are primarily the product of the ridiculous lack of gun control laws in the US.

  • Stanford petition misrepresents resolution to divest from occupation
    • Most importantly the Stanford University student senate has defeated an Israel divestment resolution.

      The Associated Students of Stanford University had nine votes for the measure and five against, with one abstention. But to pass, the measure required 66 percent of the senators to approve and finished with 64 percent.

  • Israel: Schabas resignation cannot ‘whitewash’ bias in UN war crimes inquiry
    • @Giles, sounds like a rephrasing of the old anti-semitic meme where the anti-semite says there must be something wrong with the way Jews behave because there is so much anti-semitism. 

    • Whoever can say something like "There  are huge numbers of civilian casualties on one side and virtually no civilian causalities on the other, and so prima facie, there is evidence of disproportionality in the response that Israel is undertaking in order to protect itself" is showing himself to be biased.

      The absurd and amoral disproportionality charge is dispensed with as follows:
      "This proportionality indictment is not only absurd but amoral. When a democracy launches a just war, its moral obligation to its citizens and soldiers is to apply overwhelming force against the enemy, to secure peace quickly and authoritatively."
      "The fact that Germany suffered over 10  times the number of war dead than Americans did in World War II does not change that war’s moral calculus. One can only imagine William Schabas on D-Day, counting German casualties without acknowledging German guilt. Americans were fighting a savage war – as all wars are – against a particularly heinous regime." as Hamas is perceived to be.

  • Ari Shavit pimps AIPAC in Scarsdale
    • we agreed to establish the State of Palestine on only 22% of the territory of historical Palestine - on all the Palestinian Territory occupied by Israel in 1967

      @talknic your contribution is the true bullsh*t in this discussion. In your link to Abbas's speech to the UN in 2011 he was quoting what Arafat had allegedly offered - nothing to do with Abbas. And of course we don't hear about all the riders of that offer - the consequent breakout of the intifada showing the Palestinians offer came from the barrel of a gun, the demand that Israel return to 1967 borders that had proved indefensible, borders that would reward the Arabs for their aggression in 1967 and of course the infamous right of return.

      As for ethnic cleansing it is the Arab nations that actually inflicted ethnic cleansing on their Jewish inhabitants as a million Jews, who had inhabited Arab lands for more than a thousand years, were forced to flee from their homes.

      If you had only taken the trouble to go to the link in my post you would see why I can so clearly demonstrate that Israel has no partners with whom to make any kind of a deal, as the Palestinians have no moderate elements that can take the risk to honestly negotiate with Israel for fear of painful retribution from their own kind.

    • @Kris, you have summarised the Palestinian narrative very nicely.

      As in any logical argument if there is a fundamental fallacy elicited at one point the whole line of argument collapses in a heap.

      Zionists immigrated to Palestine – many with the express wish of taking over the land for a Jewish state – the indigenous population became increasingly alarmed

      This argument is superficially true but when you examine why the ' indigenous population became increasingly alarmed' you will discover that this is so because of a fundamental xenophobia and judeophobia that eventually grew into full blooded anti-semitism in the Christian tradition.

      Now the site that Kris has referenced opens up with the infamous set of maps that are a complete distortion of the facts so as soon as I see them being exploited as a propaganda tool I know that I am not talking to someone who can discuss the conflict in dispassionate, rational terms - rather the exponent is going to be infused with prejudice and lies that are used to delegitimize Israel.

      Sorry Kris.

    • @mooser, do you have amnesia? or did you just have a knee jerk reaction?
      Strashen net de genz
      Israel got its 22% slice of Greater Palestine with UN blessing in 1947. From that point Israel's Arab neighbours mustered all their forces to annihilate the Jewish upstarts.

    • Political landscapes change and there is no reason a so-called 'liberal Zionist' should hold rigidly to a set of views. The fact that "Peace Now" (Shalom Achshav) fell into decline was because of disillusionment with a process lacking reciprocation (no partner for peace).
      With a sorry situation where moderate Palestinians are being persecuted in order to silence them, to be just lambasting Israel supporters amounts to gross hypocrisy, blindness and double standards.

      Priscilla Read obviously approached this meeting with Shavit with her Israel delegitimisation handbook by her side as she mused

      whether ethnic cleansing can be justified morally

      Pray tell what sort of a job of ethnic cleansing did Israel conduct if the territories that Israel now controls has as many Arabs living therein as Jews. This indicates that the very opposite of ethnic cleansing has taken place.

      Frankly Priscilla it seems like you went to the wrong meeting - perhaps you should contact your local chapter of Jewish Voices for Peace who will certainly be able to find a political environment that better suits your agenda of delegitimisation.

      Thinking people shift their opinions when political climates change. Whereas I once espoused dialog with pro-Palestinian groups I eventually learned that I was dealing with an intransigence and a fundamental unwillingness to accept Jewish sovereignty in any part of greater Palestine. Therein lies the true root of the conflict.

  • One state in historic Palestine, but -- what kind of state?
    • Having conferences that fantasize about one state solutions in Palestine that idealize and ignore deep divisions and fundamental realities are like Marxist conferences in the 21st century that discuss the prospects for socialist utopias while glossing over the failures of all existing attempts to establish communism.

  • Lawrence Summers says BDS movement is 'persecuting' Israel
    • Lawrence Summers is spot on.
      BDS supporters at UC Davis achieved a 'victory' during a vote to boycott Israel that was passed last week thanks to the antics of Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP). Jewish students there took part in an attempt to counter the BDS effort that has been rampant on American campuses.
      The responses by the BDS supporters has revealed the fundamentally anti-semitic character of the BDS:
      - anti-Israel activists shouted "Allahu akbar" (Allah is greater) at Jewish students during the vote
      - the Jewish AEPi organization's fraternity house was defaced by spraying swastikas on it
      - student senator Azka Fayyaz took to Facebook to gloat over the vote, posting a photo of the flag bearing activists and writing "Hamas & (Islamic - ed.) Sharia law have taken over UC Davis.
      Johanna Wilder, a StandWithUs Pacific Northwest campus coordinator, summed up the situation:"This demonstrates the dishonesty and hypocrisy of divestment campaigns on campus,” Wilder said in response to the vote. "They claim to be about social justice and human rights, but this student senator’s statement revealed SJP and the BDS movement’s real agenda."

      UC Davis Chancellor Linda Katehi was quick to condemn calling the behavior "repugnant and a gross violation of the values our university holds dear."

  • Drones over Auschwitz and Gaza
    • @American, if the majority of the world is unaware of Holocaust Remembrance Day that is a condemnation. The Holocaust is not just about Jews notwithstanding your insistence to the contrary. You obviously put the damning of Israel way above your concerns about the world's inability to learn from the Holocaust vis-a-vis our propensity to repeat as in Darfur, Cambodia, Rwanda etc. Please remember the Nakba was not a Holocaust even though the Palestinians and their confederates like to frame it as such.

    • The fact that the Holocaust cannot be discussed in its own right without invoking the spectre of anti-Zionism is positively shameful. The Holocaust is the harbinger of discussion about major genocides (Darfur, Rwanda, Cambodia, Armenia etc) that have occurred that demonstrate that we still have serious lessons to learn. It is as though one cannot talk about anything to do with Jews without shaping it into an attack on Israel. Let us talk about the Nakba but not in the context of the Nazi Holocaust because it doesn't qualify as a 'holocaust' wherein one ethnic group has slaughtered defenceless innocent people to assert its ethnic, political, racial or religious supremacy.

    • The commemoration of the Holocaust, now preserved by the UN Holocaust Remembrance Day, is sunk deep in the psyche of freedom loving people who cherish human rights and dignity for all people.

      It was an important week in Jewish history.

      Wrong - It was an important week in the history of all mankind.
      This event is not just there for Jews to remember the huge suffering that they particularly experienced. I was most impressed that SBS TV in Australia ran impassioned stories for their heterogeneous Australian audience about the liberation of Auschwitz three days in a row on their major national news service.This shows no lessening of the importance of the Holocaust for all of us, not just Jews.

      Those who hook their own anti-Israel agendas on to this commemoration, diminishing it by drawing attention elsewhere to other issues are showing how dirty is their politics. If I am discussing any Jewish topic, even art or literature, these dedicated Israel haters will always muster their malevolence and divert to what matters most to them - the demonization and delegitimization of Israel.

  • Auschwitz revisited
    • No other group faced the uniquely horrific threat of total annihilation. The Nazis particularly wanted to rid the planet of every single Jew. Despite the fact the genocide continues to occur the lessons and message from what happened to the Jews stand out as a special reminder and should not be diminished by others pushing their own barrows.

  • Charlie Hebdo: The sacred of the 'wretched of the Earth' and its desecration
    • @Mooser , it doesn't matter where the goal posts might be as you always kick the man instead of the ball.

  • Surprise-- 'NYT' publishes straightforward report on Israeli human rights violations in Gaza
    • I don't need to resort to hasbara. A report that does not even discuss the use of human shields by Hamas in order to hinder or deliberately compromise IDF attacks is fundamentally flawed if not a complete joke. 

  • The growing ties between #BlackLivesMatter and Palestine
    • The missing link in my last post with all the lowdown on the machinations of groups like Dream Defenders and other such shit stirrers is  http://legalinsurrection.com/2015/01/anti-israel-activists-block-san-mateo-bridge/

    • This is all about blatant political opportunism - exploiting the people of Ferguson for ulterior political motives, fomenting trouble, hunting for allies in an unreceptive world where pushing one's own unpopular agenda is paramount.
      Anti-Israel activists have set on a deliberate course to hijack the Ferguson and #BlackLivesMatters protests to their own anti-Israel agenda.
      "It’s the strategy we have seen time and again — turn every issue into an anti-Israel issue through exploiting domestic racial divisions."
      "That anti-Israeli agenda, which involves encouraging confrontation with police in solidarity with Palestinians, is helping provide the accelerant to an already volatile situation..."
      Looks like a lot of these pro-Palestinian agitators will be spending time in prison where they will have plenty of time to polish up their manifestos.

  • On the 70th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz
    • On the 70th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz - an event on a scale which has never been matched in history for the shocking dimension of human suffering - some choose to diminish the significance of the Holocaust and use it to divert attention to their own political agendas. There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens but today has been reserved.

      The demonstrators who disrupted a NYC Council motion vote commemorating the liberation of Auschwitz show how low some people are prepared to go. This is pure anti-semitism that emanates from the pro-Palestinian movement - invoking the Nakba to distract from the horrors of the Holocaust is despicable behavior.

      Jews don't have a monopoly on the Holocaust and the commemoration I attended tonight acknowledged all the different groups of people who were affected. Jew haters will always demean the efforts of Jews on the world stage and the actions of Jews, who punch well above their weight, are despised ipso facto by dedicated judeophobes the world over (MondoWeiss constituents strongly represented).

      A study just reported in Haaretz comparing high school textbooks in 139 countries and territories shows that just 57 countries describe Holocaust directly. Yes Ellis the lessons remain but from the tone of the remarks around here it doesn't seem that much has sunk in.

      "The International Day in memory of the victims of the Holocaust is thus a day on which we must reassert our commitment to human rights. [...] We must also go beyond remembrance, and make sure that new generations know this history. We must apply the lessons of the Holocaust to today’s world. And we must do our utmost so that all peoples must enjoy the protections and rights for which the United Nations stands."  - United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon.

  • Living in Israel isn't the solution to antisemitism
    • I am dismayed when I see anti-semitic depictions and I complain if I think it is necessary to do so. I have complained on occasions about the poor taste or wrongful misrepresentations of our ABC and had many of my complaints acknowledged and the matter rectified.

      On the other hand cartoons of Mohammed are not going to stir non-Muslims into Islamophobic rage  - they only really bother the insiders and they don't just complain, they go out and KILL.

    • Is it a false comparison to say that if you can insult the prophet Muhammad, you should be able to poke fun at the Holocaust?

      Loewenstein writes with the pen of the appeasing apologist - drawing a false moral equivalence between anti-semitism and Islamophobia.

      Whereas Jews weather anti-semitism (as they have done for millenia) and take recourse through appropriate legal and media avenues; Mohammedans scream blue murder over the depiction of their prophet (even in plain vanilla terms) and go on murderous rampages when their precious sensibilities are challenged.

      Furthermore, cartoons of Mohammed are at most riling Muslims whose specious views contradict the cultural and social values of our own western, democratic society. You only have to listen to the anti-freedom rants of Hizb-ut-Tahrir in the back streets of Sydney yesterday to see views that oppose our society's basic principles: e.g. ""We rejected freedom yesterday, we rejected freedom today and we reject your freedom tomorrow,"

      Cartoons of Mohammed don't directly stir up Islamophobia as they generally tend to be humorous, satirical representations rather than inciteful, hateful portrayals of Jews that can inject more venom into the fangs of anti-semites and consequently lead to more hate crimes. Muslims, by maintaining a separatist position, not integrating like other minorities into the mainstream of multicultural society, stir up resentment from the rest of the community, who tend to feel that they are not sharing equally in the task of building a nation.

      If Muslims were to show due respect to the multicultural societies in which they live and not keep demeaning our Western democratic values then we might be more willing to accede to their wishes . In the meantime it is totally hypocritical for Muslims to complain about the way in which we speak about them, when they show scant contempt for our way of life, many proclaiming (as in Sydney yesterday) that we would be much better off under Sharia law.

  • The ‘hasbara’ tweeps who brought down Jim Clancy, and their ties to Israel and the Israel lobby
    • @Boomer, he wasn't dismissed - he fell on his own sword.If you are asked for an apology and an apology should be forthcoming and you don't apologize then to resign is obligatory. Clancy suffered from 'foot in mouth' disease which in professional circles is generally fatal.

  • Netanyahu and Europe’s far right find common ground after the Paris attacks
    • He wants a Europe free of Jews

      Cook is putting words into Netanyahu's mouth to suit his own agenda.

      Netanyahu is perfectly entitled to entice Jews, who are waking up to the sad realities of a mangled Europe, to come to Israel. More Jews will continue to emigrate and it is in Israel's interests to attract those who decide to leave for whatever reason.

      To stretch this to claim that Netanyahu wants ALL Jews to leave Europe is false, shoddy, alarmist rubbish.

  • #JeSuisUnJuifBritannique
    • There is a very strong whiff of a fallacious argument that when Israel is asserting itself that anti-semitism increases and so Israelis are causing anti-semitism. Robert Cohen has been quick to try and dodge the accusation that he is "not falling into the mindset of blaming the victims" however I think he has unfortunately failed to avoid wearing that criticism.

      The spike in anti-Jewish behavior at times like Operation Protective Edge reflects pure and unadulterated anti-semitism, which hibernates in our society until there is the opportunity for people with such inclination to express it. All criticism of Israel or protests related to Israel's actions does not equate to antisemitism. What is clear is that increased reporting of tensions overseas and a rise in anti-Israel rhetoric provides an excuse/pretext to antisemites to act on their beliefs and carry out intimidation directed towards Jews.
      When key players in the media, pushing their own agendas, keep inferring Israel is the sole perpetrator in the I/P conflict, using contrived images of Palestinians to pull at the heartstrings of the politically ignorant, the scene is set for more irrational, anti Jewish reaction. 

      Do Phil or Adam ever consider how much succor they give to anti-semites by running Mondoweiss?  

      Refer http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-08/falkenstein-why-must-my-friend-be-afraid-to-be-jewish/5656978

    • 1 in 4 British people (25%) believe Jews chase money more than other British people

      Tell me how that anti-semitic attitude has anything to do with Israel.
      And these questions in the survey that also revealed how widespread endemic anti-semitism is and how fundamentally it has nothing to do with Zionism:

      1. Jews think they are better than other people.

      2. In business, Jews are not as honest as most people.

      3. I would be unhappy if a family member married a Jew.

      4. Jews have too much power in the media.

      5. Jews talk about the Holocaust too much in order to get sympathy.
      Jews who think that they can counter anti-semitism if they behave 'better' and kowtow to the sensibilities of the other are fools who have learned nothing from the annals of history.

      What Israel does can generate spikes in anti-semitism but the underlying bases for anti-semitism are fed by more deeply entrenched prejudices.
      Reading Anti-Judaism: The Western Tradition (New York: Norton, 2013) by David Nirenberg,  has helped me understand much better at a meta-level the virulent hate that Jews have faced throughout history. Nirenberg's 'brilliant, fascinating, and deeply depressing book' goes a long way to explain the malignant 'noise' that we keep hearing about Jews and their allegedly 'unsavory' behaviours.

  • There is no pride for Jews in the state of Israel
    • @seafoid, hasbara (actually public diplomacy) is not one-sided and monotonous like the constant drone of [...] propaganda. Whereas one attempts to deal with facts and offers explanations (hasbara), the other keeps pushing the single-minded, obsessive narrative of [...]. Naturally the term hasbara has to be demeaned - this is a common, cheap debating trick. It means you are trying to get away without dealing with the details of the opposition case by claiming it is based on a single, allegedly wrong premise.

  • ICC opens war crimes inquiry into Israel over Gaza war as Palestinians prepare another UN resolution
    • seafoid, seems to be having a few problems with the world.

      As he draws our attention what is the message?

      In his equation he forgot to add in the item 'Muslim Anti-semitism' and misread 'assertion of Israel as a Jewish state' as 'Zionist violence' which gives a different answer i.e. ultra dangerous becomes Islamic terrorism.

    • "ICC’s new prosecutor on Arab conflicts, how Islam plays a role in guiding her and her vision for the international court"
       
      Al Arabiya asked Bensouda whether she, as prosecutor of the ICC, would refuse a referral, if she didn’t believe in it; she replied “absolutely”.
       
      On whether her religion plays any role in helping her do the job that she has been elected to do, she said: “Absolutely, definitely. Islam, as you know, is a religion of peace, and it gives you this inner strength, this inner ability and a sense of justice. Together with my experience, this will help a lot.”

      Jews, who have suffered from endemic Islamic hatred since the birth of Islam, are to feel confident that Bensouda is best suited to her extraordinary role and responsibility? The world appeases Islam yet again by acceding to a Muslim having jurisdiction over Jews in such irrevocably compromised circumstances.

       
      Refer http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/12/15/182694.html

      The ICC further diminishes its credibility:

      "But the (ICC) prosecutor (Bensouda) did not actually determine the Palestine qualifies as a “state” under the well-established legal definitions of the term.  Rather, she said that the U.N. General Assembly’s vote in 2012 to call Palestine a “non-member state” is dispositive of the question. In short, she substituted the determination of the General Assembly for her own. The GA is not a judicial body, but a political one. Its determinations are political, not legal. (It also has no power under the U.N. Charter, to create or recognize states.)

      "Statehood, however, is a legal term, with legal criteria (“the Montevideo test”), which involve judgement and the application of law to facts. Of particular relevance is the requirement that to become a state, a territory have a functioning government exercising supreme control in at least part of its claimed territory. The requirements for the creation of a state do not mirror those for its extinguishing. Thus the possibility of a “state under occupation,” to use the Palestinian’s favored term, does not preempt the need for there to first be a state under Montevideo definitions. The Palestinians, however, claim all of their territory is and has always been under the control of Israel.

      "The U.N. General Assembly need not be troubled by such legal problems because it is an explicitly political body. It need not be coherent or consistent, unlike a court. For the Prosecutor to take the judgements of such a body on the application of legal terms in the Rome Statute to particular facts as binding upon the Court is to surrender her independence. The Court’s statute, as well as its press releases, demand and proclaim its independence. Yet decisions like this one violate independence, making it a mere organ of the U.N., and of the General Assembly at that."

      So much for legal niceties ...

      Refer http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/01/16/icc-prosecutor-undermines-courts-independence/

  • It's not the cartoons-- a contrarian perspective from a Muslim cartoonist
    • @mooser, you encapsulate a closed mentality that ignores what somebody might say and concentrate instead on the 'color of their skin'. What hope is there for rational discussion if you dismiss what somebody has to say because of who they happen to be?

    • No wisdom from Whizdom -
      Oddly he didn't kill or threaten any of the hostages after the initial assault
      Yeh he only killed 4 people so he wasn't such a bad guy!

  • Netanyahu crashes Paris unity march, French gov't fumes
    • The Syrian Observatory’s total of 76,021 deaths for 2014 compared with its total of 73,447 in 2013, 49,294 in 2012 and 7,841 in 2011 from http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/02/world/middleeast/syrian-civil-war-2014-deadliest-so-far.html. This is a total of over 200,000 people having been killed in Syria in 3 years.

      On the other hand deaths in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict 1987-2014 over a period of 27 years are 8500 Palestinians and 1500 Israelis for a grand total of 10,000 from http://israelipalestinian.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000639

      Where is the perspective around here Shingo?

      It seems that one Palestinian death is 200,000/10,000 X 27/3 = 180 times more important than the death of every Syrian.

    • @shingo, you keep on trying to avoid reality to push what seems to be your only concern - the dissolution of Israel.
      You know that Netanyahu and Hollande would not have wanted to give another opportunity for a Muslim misfit to kill some more Jews in France right now hence the security concerns.
      Just as you were dismissive about the terrible death toll in Syria when it was escalating, so you are blind to the bleak prognosis for Jews in a Muslim plagued Europe.

    • The dishonesty in the remarks here is mind-blowing. France has just screwed Israel with its ill-considered vote in the UN Security Council as it has done before when de Gaulle stopped arms shipments to Israel after the 1967 war. The issue with Netanyahu coming to Paris was fundamentally to do with security. For Netanyahu to be prevented from attending the ceremonies in Paris would have delivered yet another insult by France to Israel as it struggles desperately to prevent more Islamic terrorism.
      There will always be your appeasers like Rabbi Margolin, Jews not prepared to wake up to the grim reality of a Europe that is succumbing to enormous pressure from its burgeoning Muslim populations. The cat is out of the bag - it is way too late for interfaith hug-fests and such delusional dilly dallying.

  • 'With God’s help, the journalists at Haaretz will be murdered just like in France': Death threats follow publication of cartoon in Israeli newspaper
    • @Robbins, you keep twisting reality and making things up - you have no sense of perspective.

      killed more last summer than were killed at the paris office massacre

      Seriously, what credibility can you claim for yourself when you make blatantly false assertions like this.

      According to this report from the Committee to Protect Journalists sixteen journalists have been killed in Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territory since 1992 - four were killed in the outbreak last summer. 
      link to cpj.org

      Of the four journalists killed one was killed by an unexploded missile that blew up, two were killed in an Israeli bombardment on a market in the Shijaiyah neighborhood (therefore not specifically targeted), one was killed by an Israel shell fired during a day when more than 60 Palestinians and 13 Israeli soldiers were killed in clashes between Israeli and Hamas forces in Shijaiyah.

      These incidents in war-torn Gaza hardly compare to the deliberate cold-blooded murder of defenseless journalists sitting in their office oblivious of the barbaric act that was about to be inflicted upon them.

    • There is a huge huge difference between wishing somebody would die and actually committing a murderous terrorist act.

  • Why I am not Charlie
    • @tokyobk, take a reality check

      its ok to poke fun at Muslims in ways that would never be done to other groups in polite society.
      Muslims SHOULD be just like the rest of us (no special treatment for deceptively alleged victimhood), but their religion (political ideology) prevents that.

    • Notwithstanding that the disgraceful article was pulled by the IBT is the fact that Greta Berlin, BDS Leader, spokesperson for the Free Gaza Movement responsible for the Gaza flotillas, actually declared this on her Facebook feed:
      “MOSSAD just hit the Paris offices of Charlie Hebdo in a clumsy false flag designed to damage the accord between Palestine and France…Here’s hoping the French police will be able to tell a well executed hit by a well trained Israeli intelligence service and not assume the Muslims would be likely to attack France when France is their freind (sic.) Israel did tell France there would be grave consequences if they voted with Palestine. A four year old could see who is responsible for this terrible attack.”
      "Berlin’s remarks about the Charlie Hebdo slaughter are not the first time she has promoted anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. In 2012, even some Jewish anti-Zionists were angered by her endorsement of a video featuring an obscure anti-Semite named Eustace Mullins, who charged, in the words of Berlin’s tweet at the time, that “Zionists operated the concentration camps and helped murder millions of innocent Jews.”

      Refer http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/01/08/bds-leaders-promote-anti-semitic-conspiracy-theory-linking-mossad-to-charlie-hebdo-atrocity/
      These kind of remarks demonstrate that the accusations that the BDS is fundamentally driven by anti-semitic precepts are proven.

    • @taxi, have you got some statistics on the number of people killed by islamophobes compared to islamists? And you contend that they are each an "equal grave danger". Amazing logic!

  • Media obsesses over 'free speech' in Charlie Hebdo case while ignoring Israeli targeting of journalists
    • Yes, Mossad assassinated him in London in 1987

      @zaid, you choose to believe this when there is no definite proof. Naji al-Ali worked in Beirut, Kuwait and finally in London and his deceptively simple (and prolific) drawings targeted Arab governments, Iran, America and Israel. It is just as likely that he was murdered by an Arab who didn't take a fancy to his depictions. However it is convenient to dump everything on to Mossad - throw enough mud and some of it will stick.

      "Colleagues reported that weeks before his death he was warned not to attack Arafat, then in exile in Tunisia and much criticised for his authoritarian style and lack of accountability. "You must correct your attitude," he was told in no uncertain terms.

      On June 24 he published a cartoon lampooning the PLO chief and a woman friend - a highly sensitive issue for a leader who always claimed to be "married" to the Palestinian revolution. Less than a month later, he was fighting for his life in a London neurosurgical ward after being shot in the face at point-blank range.

      Shortly afterwards, British police arrested a Palestinian student named Ismail Sowan. He turned out to be a double agent for both the PLO and Mossad, Israel's intelligence service, and claimed his controllers had been briefed on the plan to kill al-Ali. The affair triggered a furious row between the UK and Israel.

      Sowan was convicted of possessing arms and explosives. The family are convinced to this day that the murder was carried out on Arafat's orders. But no one was ever charged."

      Refer http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/mar/10/israelandthepalestinians1

  • 'Spiral,' 'threat,' 'polarization,' or 'full-scale popular campaign for Palestinian freedom' -- reactions to the ICC move
    • @robbins, all the hullabalu because Israel is sick and tired of being pushed on to the 'succumb to the Palestinian pressure agenda merry-go-round' and the incessant intractable demands. Israelis want an end to the constant politicising of the 'Palestinian' cause and an end to the virulent campaign to delegitimize and criminalize Israel.

    • @taxi, yes we know the whole Muslim world with the help if their left-wing confederates hates the Jewish upstarts. We know the Israel's Muslim neighbours would like one of their vurulent Islamist proxies to start a regional war. Is Israel going to kowtow to such obvious pressure tactics? I don't think so. Forced into a corner any animal will come out fighting to ensure its survival. With the US pushed more to Israel's side than ever before the PA can start looking for funding its bureaucrats from other sources.

    • The rapist-victim metaphor again and again. How about some constructive thought instead of using deliberately emotive language. Anything to keep the pro-Palestinian cause alive, to keep the fires burning, going to the ICC is like flogging a dead horse - it will do absolutely nothing to advance the prospects for peace.

  • Ari Roth is fired by DC Jewish center -- after staging Nakba play
    • Jews are supposed to be free to go about undermining Israel in the name of free speech while nobody gives a rats arse about the tactics of the pro-Palestinian camp? It seems like MW is quite willing to support anything that slams Israel, but with true hypocrisy is totally blind to the other side which is much much worse in its behavior.

      Should Jews be permitted to put on theatre that extols the efforts of the Nazis in exterminating Jews? Where's the limit? Isn't it about time that Jews who support Israel don't give free licence to Jews who think it is OK to help the efforts of the enemy? This is not a free speech issue per se but an issue of not committing treasonable activities - not doing things to unnecessarily endanger or damage the position of Israel in the eyes of the world. There are plenty of other people doing this - so why lend them assistance?

      Palestinian journalists are repeatedly arrested in the West Bank and Gaza Strip for reportedly criticizing the policies and leaders of the PA and Hamas. This regular assault on freedom  of expression does not seem to bother the Western countries that fund the PA, or Hamas supporters from all around the world or Mondoweiss.

      "During the peace talks, the director-general of the Palestinian Human Rights Monitoring Group criticized his own government, declaring, "There is no freedom of expression in our areas." A Palestinian blogger was arrested by the PA for starting a Facebook campaign called "The People Want an End to Corruption." A West Bank university lecturer was arrested for criticizing Mahmoud Abbas on Facebook. The former information minister was shot after calling for reforms in the PA. This bullying and intimidation is intended to deepen the frustration and hatred in Palestinian consciousness and provoke hostility toward the Jewish people."

  • PA considers ‘re-defining security coordination’ with Israel in wake of Palestinian govt minister death
    • As usual a report by Deger oozing with blatant bias.

      Abu Ein died yesterday morning before 11:00am from “a blockage of the coronary artery,” where “the bleeding could have been caused by stress,” according to the preliminary findings of the autopsy the Israeli Ministry of Health said this morning. “The poor condition of the deceased’s heart caused him to be more sensitive to stress,” the report continued.
      .....“The Israelis asked to have one of their doctors present and we agreed so that there is no doubt about the findings and there can be a complete condemnation,” said al-Sheikh, adding, ”The cause of death was because the soldiers beat him, fired intensive teargas and prevented Abu Ein from reaching the hospital on time. There is no other narrative.”

      This assertion is so political biased - the truth isn't important, foremost is the Palestinian narrative. Why haven't other protesters died before in similar circumstances? Palestinian protesters regularly put the IDF to the test with their routine confrontational demonstrations that deliberately aim to generate violence to implicate Israel.

      Jordanian officials under the dictates of their leaders no doubt have said "he was assassinated by Israeli occupation forces" with nothing whatsoever to prove this. Their aim is simply to incite.

      Israeli officials have refused to sign the completed autopsy report, stymieing the dissemination of the results

      How ridiculous is this statement - Israel would sign an autopsy report that is based on lies and pro-Palestinian propagandist claims!

  • Palestinian minister dies after Israeli army assault during olive tree planting ceremony in West Bank village
    • Following a joint autopsy, the Palestinian doctor concluded that he died as a result of a blow to his body, not of natural causes. The Israeli doctor said the 55-year-old’s death was caused by the blockage of a coronary artery.

      There you have it, one doctor gives an explanation for cause of death, while the other gives an interpretation that does not explain the death, but satisfies the pro-Palestinian propagandists and contributes to the inflaming of tensions.
      Watching this video you see how one of the Palestinians strikes at the soldiers with his flag pole 
      link to theguardian.com Israeli soldiers naturally respond to a clear act of assault.

    • Certainly his trial did not meet the accepted standards of reliability or justice in civilized societies.

      And the Palestinians set the standard?
      link to reuters.com
      Is this what we would get from implementing a Palestinian state? I fear yes. While Israel is repeatedly vilified there is an unattended lack of awareness of the human rights violations committed by the Palestinian government authorities.
      Refer 'Hidden Injustices -A Review of PA & Hamas Human Rights Violations in the West Bank and Gaza' at http://jij.org.il/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Hidden-Injustices.-Human-Rights-in-the-PA-7.4.13.pdf

  • For the first time Israel's high court wrestles with legality of punitive home demolitions
    • Sorry to inform you blah chick but there is a war going on at the moment in Israel-Palestine.Just as collective punishment was used by the Allies to successfully end WWII Israel is being forced to resort to the same tactics.

      Rabbi Avihai Ronsky, the former Chief Rabbi of the IDF, wrote (link to tikkun.org) that both the Hebrew bible and modern history give precedents for the proper way to deal with the Palestinians.

      And what are these precedents? The first is a biblical massacre from Genesis 34 in which Jacob’s sons, Simon and Levi, killed every male civilian in a tribal city after a local warlord raped their sister and then demanded her hand in marriage. The second precedent comes from World War II, per Ronsky’s words:

      “Only with a sharp blow will we make it clear that Jewish blood is not cheap. [Just as with the massacre in Genesis 34], the same goes today: only by dropping an atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which caused millions of deaths, did the U.S. bring an end to World War II.”

      Indiscriminate collective punishment should be the last resort if the Palestinians decide to return to the violent strategies of their initifadas. In the meantime punishing those who raise and nurture and give succor to murderers should be strongly discouraged.

    • On numerous occasions they readily condemned the slayings to the press

      Total rubbish!

      Mother of Uday Abu-Jamal recited a chilling poem just a day after Jerusalem synagogue massacre: 'I brought up my children on Islam.'

      Refer http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/188190#.VIJkr8kr3Ws

      The Abu Jammal family got in the act, celebrating the "martyrdom" of their relatives - before police swooped in and arrested several of them....

      Refer http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/187615#.VGvCdPmUdas

      Israel has very little choice when it comes to stemming the tide of violence from Palestinians, who just want to stir up trouble. Those who are in complicit in murderous crimes should be held to account as they are in any democratic society; signs of weakness by the Israeli authorities are seen as victories, encouraging others to commit similar dastardly acts.

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