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  • 'Chickenshit' attack enrages Netanyahu and lobby, but will it stir voters against Obama?
  • US-Israel relationship is still 'strong and formidable,' says State Dep't
  • Chomsky used to need police protection when he spoke about Israel, no longer
  • NYT's opening to a 'fringe voice' excites rage from Israeli army, journalism, business leaders
    • Israeli's lack of self awareness is truly staggering...

      The more people see these responses the more the hysterical face of Zionism is revealed...

      "It is an uncomfortable but nevertheless unavoidable truth of this conflict that Palestinian independence cannot be achieved against the wishes of the Israeli public."

      "That such an oped was published is a black stain on those of us who want two states for two peoples."

      "Israel is a democracy in a very bad neighborhood and is eternally striving to better itself despite the many obstacles."

      Yeah - WINNING fucking arguments! NOT

  • Israel, your brand is tanking
    • In addition to David Milibands recent statement:

      But the prime minister is wrong not to have opposed Israel's incursion into Gaza and his silence on the killing of hundreds of innocents Palestinians civilians caused by Israel's military action will be inexplicable to people across Britain and internationally."

      This seems like a fairly significant development in the political climate as regards Israel in the UK:

      Lady Warsi resigns over government’s ‘morally reprehensible’ stance on Gaza

      Lady Warsi is a Foreign Office minister and a fairly senior member of the Conservative government.

      Our position not to recognise Palestinian statehood at the UN in November 2012 placed us on the wrong side of history and is something I deeply regret not speaking out against at the time.

  • As in Vietnam and South Africa, Gazan masses are willing to pay high price for freedom -- Kasrils
    • The Israelis are terrified that its soldiers will fall into the hands of the resistance and this is affecting their resolution on the ground and at government level

      Richard Silverstein alleges that the Israelis have already killed one of their own during the current operation to prevent this happening

  • Oren's charge that networks showcase Palestinian dead at behest of Hamas is 'obscene' -- Penhaul
  • Gaza massacre is generating ideological crisis in American Zionists
  • Israeli forces shell UN school where displaced Palestinians gathered, killing at least 9
  • Massacre in Gaza: At least 60 killed in Shuja'iyeh, over 60,000 in UN shelters
    • Bennett and co have been talking about dropping the US and trying Israel’s luck with China.

      Ha Ha

      Good luck with that...

  • Largest British union refuses to offer support for peace talks
    • You should ask the UCU about that.

      About what hophmi?

      About the case in which the UCU was "cleared of harassment in landmark tribunal" described as a "Crushing defeat for Israel lobby as anti-boycott litigation fails in UK" and reported by the Jewish Chronicle as "A blistering rejection of pro-Israel activist Ronnie Fraser's case against the academic union, UCU"

      An Employment Tribunal ruled the claim of “institutional anti-Semitism,” brought by union member and Academic Friends of Israel director Ronnie Fraser, was dismissed on all counts.

      The ruling is a dramatic and comprehensive defeat for the Israeli “lawfare” strategy, and may even have backfired for its proponents who today descended into acrimonious internal back-biting.

      In the 49-page ruling, the three-person tribunal comprehensively considered the 10 points of the detailed complaint, brought on behalf of Fraser by high-profile pro-Israel lawyer Anthony Julius.

      After dismissing each one of them in detail (“without substance … devoid of any merit … palpably groundless … untenable … obviously hopeless”), the document appears to foreclose the possibility of another such “lawfare” attack ever being brought to court again (at least using UK Tribunals)

      Not a great example for promoters of the Zionist cause I would say...

  • Liberal Zionists' denial of Israeli racism heightens danger to 'everyone living in this land' -- Blumenthal
    • i wish he give up his ad hominem tweets towards MW and have it out on the comment section instead

      I very much doubt that will be happening again, he got his arse handed to him last time.

      In the UK we have an expression for types like MJ: "They can dish it out, but they can't take it..."

    • “rich Jews who don’t face any threat to their lives, as Israelis do”

      Sounds like MJ...

      Psychological projection anyone?

  • Doubts raised about report Algeria will donate World Cup prize money to Gaza (Updated)
  • Chomsky supports portions of BDS agenda, but faults others, citing realism and int'l consensus
    • The subsequent calls from UN organs, rapporteurs, and working groups had an impact on investors and governments, but had little to do with pressure from the BDS movement, which has been taking all of the credit, while badmouthing the Palestinian government that was instrumental in “getting the ball rolling”

      That is a perfectly valid interpretation of events - however it has nothing to do with Chomsky's statement which was:

      “sanctions, or state actions, are not on the horizon”

      That statement is patently untrue as sanctions have been discussed at an inter-governmental level (albeit they are unlikely to be applied except to the settlements in the near future) and many articles (including many at this site) have covered this topic.

    • Chomsky is full of s**t...

      "sanctions, or state actions, are not on the horizon"

      Former EU leaders urge sanctions for Israel settlements

      "U.S. discrimination is worse than Israeli discrimination"

      I have absolutely no idea what he means by this , but it is unsurprising to find that Chomsky does not attempt to support the claim with a concrete example.

      "there is virtually no meaningful support for (3) beyond the BDS movement itself"

      The same line of argumentation could be taken on any number of actions Chomsky has himself been a proponent of...

      It didn't stop him making unpopular arguments.

      With both Chomsky and Finkelstein their reaction against BDS is so contrary to their past records as dissenters and iconoclasts (as opposed to consensus followers) that I struggle to find any explanation except the ethnic solidarity component...

  • Missing Israeli teens found dead near Hebron; Netanyahu: 'Hamas is responsible and Hamas will pay'
    • The injustice and imbalance of power, the sickening self-righteousness and hypocrisy of so many Israelis makes me ill.

      The reaction of Israeli society reduces, in fact nearly erases my natural sympathy for the kids who were killed.

      I'm sure this is why many people avoid engaging on any level with this conflict, the potential for it to create such negative emotions.

      Thought experiment: For every Palestinian child killed F16's bomb Tel Aviv or Jerusalem. Who would justify that? The bombing would be constant...

      Believe me, many people around the world are fantasising exactly that scenario just as the bullied child at school fantasises punching his tormentor in the face.

      People naturally want to see justice done - thats why when the Hasbara has run its course the only bulwark for Israel is military power and US support and neither will last forever...

      Sad...

  • New video shows Palestinian youths killed by Israeli army on Nakba Day posed no threat to soldiers
    • 2 dead versus 160,000 dead Syrians and no outrage by

      2 dead versus:

      X dead Syrians
      X dead Ukrainians
      X dead Nigerians
      X dead Libyans
      X dead Iraqi's
      X dead Lebanese
      X dead from the Central African Republic
      X dead from LaLa Land

      What a brilliant argument (They suck!)

      Look anywhere but at Israel and its horrific behaviour.

  • An Israeli tells American Jews they're miserable
    • Sterling is just digging himself a deeper and deeper hole...

      He's not a racist but:

      Jews when they get successful, they will help their people, and some of the African Americans – maybe I'll get in trouble again – they don't want to help anybody

      Plus:

      Big Magic Johnson, what has he done? He's got Aids ... what kind of a guy goes to every city, has sex with every girl, then he catches HIV?

      Not a popularity contest you are likely to win Don ;)

      Armour: Shame belongs to Donald Sterling, not Magic Johnson

  • Newsweek: Extensive Israeli spying in the US kept quiet due to pressure from the lobby
    • This is the drip drip after giving the dog a very long leash.

      Netanyahoooo, Lieberman and their band of criminals are now in a corner. They can fight back, scream and unleash their AIPAC zombies, but as they do that more will be leaked out to Jack and Jane. With each protest, will come another new and concrete revelation. Soon, it will be with names instead of simply sources from the intelligence community recounting stories of spies in ventilation ducts in hotel rooms. But real harm done.

      This is exactly what I think.

      Obama has always seemed tight with the Intel community. It seems this is his way of playing the long game.

      Every rebuttal of spying, every denial of Apartheid just gives more oxygen, more publicity to the accusations. But the "Pro-Israel" community are no longer co-ordinated and they will fight each other to be seen to be shouting down any criticisms the loudest...

    • I was wondering more whether the behind the scenes briefing against the Israeli's was also timed to coincide with other developments:

      The Palestinian UN efforts
      NGO's recommending the ICC
      Whatever the EU decides to do now
      BDS and divestment efforts on US campuses

      All these things together could create quite some momentum towards changing the consensus narrative...

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    • This really does seem like a concerted effort from the intelligence community to brief against the Israelis now doesn't it...

      Every rebuttal just draws more attention to the accusations.

      How inconvenient for Netanyahu. Especially with this sort of stuff on the horizon too:

      Rights groups urge Abbas to let ICC prosecute war crimes committed on Palestinian territories

      I wonder if the timing has anything to do with the recent "collapse" of the two-state solution or if it is purely coincidental?

      Netanyahu may live to regret his hubris in publicly embarrassing Obama and Kerry so frequently. While congress may belong to him the oft-mentioned animus towards Israel in the US intelligence community appears to be true...

      Many ways to skin a cat I suppose

  • Now that Israel has killed the two-state solution, will liberal Zionists support equality or ethnocracy?
    • I think Israel will have a "normal" relationship with China. Both countries will operate on the basis of their own national interest. China cannot criticise the Israeli occupation too stridently - they have their own Tibet issue. But as we see with Chinese relations with Iran and Israel - China's national interests necessitate attempting to be friendly with both countries and so that is what they try to do.

      If Israel can use its close ties to the US military to supply China with US military technology they will gladly take this and exchange something of equal value. China wishes to become a technology leader, I'm sure it will exchange access to markets for access to some of Israel's vaunted technological prowess - China usually does this through joint-partnerships (Although Israel would be well-advised that the Chinese may do to them what they have allegedly done to the US on this front, and steal technology only to market it as their own - intellectual property and copyright violations are not well enforced in China...).

      The main differences Israelis will find dealing with China compared to the US is in the lack of a shared cultural framework. Although they are only a small percentage of the population, Jewish people and Jewish culture are an integral component of the US with an outsize influence compared to numbers. Jewish ideas are an intrinsic part of Western European thought from the religious and moral teachings of the Jewish faith which underlie Christianity to the modern ideas of Marx and Freud.

      There is no similar long-standing influence on Chinese thinking. The Chinese are by and large not a religious people and even when they are they tend to be synthesists (often professing to follow tenets of Taoism, Buddhism and Confucianism without any sense that this is problematic.) Hence any exclusivist "God gave us the land" arguments will carry little or no weight with Chinese politicians, they will assess these things in pragmatic terms.

      I don't believe there will ever be a Jewish lobby that can act from within Chinese society because there is no significant Chinese Jewish population, no history of Jewish influence in China and very little confluence between traditional Jewish and Chinese thinking. But the Chinese also see much to admire in Jewish culture: a long history, a respect for study, a talent for making money (a flattering stereotype which can nevertheless skirt close to and sometimes morph into more negative stereotypes!) all in all a successful clever people who should be respected (but not done any special favours).

    • But I don’t see how anyone can say the 1ss is easier to achieve than the 2ss. If Israelis refuse to give up the settlements, you think they’re going to agree to give 4 million Palestinians citizenship and voting rights, so that the Jews and Palestinians are once again competing for power over one piece of land?

      2ss requires Palestinian state to be a viable state. By any reckoning that usually require contiguity, control of borders and natural resources, military capacity. I don't see how this can now be effected as it requires Israel's leaders to choose this course of action.

      1ss requires all citizens to have votes and equal rights. This can possibly be effected by a civil rights movement and outside pressure.

      Which do you honestly think is more viable at this stage given the balance of power between the parties?

      I don’t see how the 1ss is supposed to come about. About the 2ss, I think it may be dead, it may have died decades ago, but I don’t think that’s proven yet. In another maximum 10 yrs, it will be, but in the meantime I think there’s a possibility that several years of Palestinian pressure in the UN and elsewhere, together with a growing, mainstreaming BDS movement, may bring about a “South Africa effect” on Israel and force it to give up the occupation and allow a truly independent, sovereign Palestinian state to come into being. If that doesn’t work out within a decade at most, then the 2ss is dead, but even then I don’t see how the 1ss is going to happen.

      None of the trends inside Israeli society point to "giving up the occupation and allowing a truly independent, sovereign Palestinian state to come into being". That being the case and with the status quo being recognised as unsustainable by almost every neutral observer it seems most likely that change will occur due to outside pressures. At this moment outside pressures seem likely to result in a 1ss mainly because a viable 2ss has been all but destroyed by years of Israeli govt policy...

      My family are Chinese and love the apocryphal quote by Zhou Enlai regarding the effect of the French Revolution on Western history: "Too early to tell".

      Taking that sort of long view Israel has not prepared good ground work for an enduring and prosperous future in its region...

  • Abunimah and Blumenthal's freedom ride
    • The latest polling shows absolutely no change in the way Americans view Israel

      As with all polls the question being asked significantly affects the resulting answers...

      When Americans are asked what solution they favor, they go for the two-state outcome over a one-state paradigm by 39-24 (with another 24 percent supporting occupation/annexation). But if the two-state solution is not available, Telhami found that nearly two-thirds of those two-staters turned to a one-state option; and overall Americans would be for a single democracy by roughly two-to-one.

      Now that the US seems to be withdrawing from its role as mediator in the conflict and briefing against Israel behind the scenes (Recent Ynet Interview with Ravid, Kerrys apartheid "slip", Newsweek accusations of espionage etc) Israeli leaders may need to pay less attention to polls in the US and more attention to global polls like these:

      Israel, North Korea, Pakistan and Iran came out worst in terms of how they are viewed globally.

    • If Palestinian solidarity movement wants to reach a broad public, you have to be willing to adapt yourself and your message to the environment you are in, rather than expecting everyone else to change to accommodate you. Right now Americans support peace and a two state solution. You might be able to convince some to join you in rejecting the two state solution as well, but understand that you’re going to be fighting an uphill battle by fighting Israel and the two state solution at the same time.

      Have you noticed that the "environment we are in" is one where the end of the two-state solution is being predicted by pretty much everyone who doesn't have a vested interest in the facade of the two-state solution?

      In fact these recent failed negotiations were publicly declared as the last chance by Kerry and many others.

      As we all know the secret to polls is what question is asked.

      Does the result of this poll surprise you because it shouldn't:

      Poll: If two-states collapse, Americans overwhelmingly favor ‘democracy’

      When Americans are asked what solution they favor, they go for the two-state outcome over a one-state paradigm by 39-24 (with another 24 percent supporting occupation/annexation). But if the two-state solution is not available, Telhami found that nearly two-thirds of those two-staters turned to a one-state option; and overall Americans would be for a single democracy by roughly two-to-one.

  • 'A Painful Price': The escalating war on Palestine solidarity at U of Michigan and beyond
    • Well at least you're consistent JeffB.

      Consistently factually incorrect about almost every topic you choose to pontificate on...

      Wilhelm Marr is commonly acknowledged as the originator of the term anti-semitism.

      Britannica

      Jewish Virtual Library: Wilhelm Marr

      Known as the father of modern antisemitism, Wilhelm Marr led the fight to overturn Jewish emancipation in Germany.

      Born in 1819, Marr entered politics as a democratic revolutionary who favored the emancipation of all oppressed groups, including Jews. However, when he became embittered about the failure of the 1848-49 German Revolution to democratize Germany, and about his own rapidly declining political fortunes, he turned his venom against the Jews. His essay “Der Sieg des Judenthums über das Germanenthum von nicht confessionellen Standpunkt” (“The Victory of Judaism over Germandom: From a Non-Denominational Point of View”) reached its 12th edition in 1879.

      Marr’s conception of antisemitism focused on the supposed racial, as opposed to religious, characteristics of the Jews. His organization, the League of Antisemites, introduced the word “antisemite” into the political lexicon and established the first popular political movement based entirely on anti-Jewish beliefs.

      Marr’s often-reprinted political tract, “The Victory of Judaism over Germandom,” warned that “the Jewish spirit and Jewish consciousness have overpowered the world.” He called for resistance against “this foreign power” before it was too late. Marr thought that before long “there will be absolutely no public office, even the highest one, which the Jews will not have usurped.” For Marr, it was a badge of honor to be called an antisemite.

      Marr and others employed the word antisemitism in the largely secular anti-Jewish political campaigns that became widespread in Europe around the turn of the century. The word derived from an 18th-century analysis of languages that differentiated between those with so-called “Aryan” roots and those with so-called “Semitic” ones. This distinction led, in turn, to the assumption--a false one--that there were corresponding racial groups. Within this framework, Jews became “Semites,” and that designation paved the way for Marr’s new vocabulary. He could have used the conventional German term Judenhass to refer to his hatred of Jews, but that way of speaking carried religious connotations that Marr wanted to de-emphasize in favor of racial ones. Apparently more “scientific,” Marr’s Antisemitismus caught on. Eventually, it became a way of speaking about all the forms of hostility toward Jews throughout history.Known as the father of modern antisemitism, Wilhelm Marr led the fight to overturn Jewish emancipation in Germany.

      Born in 1819, Marr entered politics as a democratic revolutionary who favored the emancipation of all oppressed groups, including Jews. However, when he became embittered about the failure of the 1848-49 German Revolution to democratize Germany, and about his own rapidly declining political fortunes, he turned his venom against the Jews. His essay “Der Sieg des Judenthums über das Germanenthum von nicht confessionellen Standpunkt” (“The Victory of Judaism over Germandom: From a Non-Denominational Point of View”) reached its 12th edition in 1879.

      Marr’s conception of antisemitism focused on the supposed racial, as opposed to religious, characteristics of the Jews. His organization, the League of Antisemites, introduced the word “antisemite” into the political lexicon and established the first popular political movement based entirely on anti-Jewish beliefs.

      Marr’s often-reprinted political tract, “The Victory of Judaism over Germandom,” warned that “the Jewish spirit and Jewish consciousness have overpowered the world.” He called for resistance against “this foreign power” before it was too late. Marr thought that before long “there will be absolutely no public office, even the highest one, which the Jews will not have usurped.” For Marr, it was a badge of honor to be called an antisemite.

      Marr and others employed the word antisemitism in the largely secular anti-Jewish political campaigns that became widespread in Europe around the turn of the century. The word derived from an 18th-century analysis of languages that differentiated between those with so-called “Aryan” roots and those with so-called “Semitic” ones. This distinction led, in turn, to the assumption--a false one--that there were corresponding racial groups. Within this framework, Jews became “Semites,” and that designation paved the way for Marr’s new vocabulary. He could have used the conventional German term Judenhass to refer to his hatred of Jews, but that way of speaking carried religious connotations that Marr wanted to de-emphasize in favor of racial ones. Apparently more “scientific,” Marr’s Antisemitismus caught on. Eventually, it became a way of speaking about all the forms of hostility toward Jews throughout history.

    • And of course our side has numbers all throughout the USA population which breaks about 60/10/30 pro-Israel/pro-Palestinian/neutral

      Europe BTW isn’t even that bad incidentally. Left 2/1 against while the moderates and right are 50/50.

      Have you read the NYT or WP comments sections recently?

      Are you aware of how people around the world view Israel.

      BBC Annual Country Ratings Poll

      More than 26,000 people were surveyed internationally for the poll.

      It was conducted for the BBC by GlobeScan and PIPA, who conducted face-to-face and telephone interviews with randomly selected people in 25 countries.

      Israel, North Korea, Pakistan and Iran came out worst in terms of how they are viewed globally.

      To be honest you sound like you are trying to convince yourself...

  • From Portland to Portland, and Amman to Lahore, 'NYT' letter-writers are sharper than 'NYT' writers
    • I am permanently moderated at the Guardian because I linked to GIYUS & CIF Watch in a comment thread...

      They are totally paranoid about the Zionist internet watchdogs...

      Scared of their own shadow...

  • In Philly, rightwing Zionists call Dershowitz anti-Semitic for opposing settlements
  • Reports: Abbas faults Israel for 'procrastinating,' says Palestine will move to join int'l organizations
    • "The NYT says none of those selected actually triggers any automatic diminution of US financial aid."

      Plus Israel is guilty as sin of violating most of those...

    • Palestinians submit official bid to join 15 international conventions

      Full article at Haaretz

      Below is the full list of conventions the Palestinians want to sign:

      ■ Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, adopted by the UN General Assembly in 1979

      ■ International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, adopted by the UN General Assembly in 1966

      ■ International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, adopted by the UN General Assembly in 1966

      ■ Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities, adopted by the UN General Assembly in 2006

      ■ International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination, adopted by the UN General Assembly in 1965

      ■ United Nations Convention Against Torture, adopted by the UN General Assembly in 1984

      ■ United Nations Convention Against Corruption, adopted by the UN General Assembly in 2003

      ■ UN Genocide Convention, adopted by the UN General Assembly in 1948

      ■ Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid, adopted by the UN General Assembly in 1974

      ■ Convention on the Rights of the Child, adopted by the UN General Assembly in 1989

      ■ Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War (Fourth Geneva Convention)

      ■ Convention with Respect to the Laws and Customs of War on Land (Hague II)

      ■ Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties

      ■ Vienna Convention on Consular Relations

      ■ Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations

      BOOM!

      How d'ya like them apples!

  • Not an April Fool's joke: U.S. weighs releasing Pollard to keep Israelis at negotiating table
    • Palestinians apply to join UN institutions

      Convicted spy Jonathan Pollard waives parole hearing, U.S. parole commission official says.

      Haaretz

      I hope this is not a April Fools joke!

    • I wasn't really thinking outraged talking heads.

      I was thinking the usual zio's explaining why it was right and just to release Pollard.

      And everyday American's at home watching going WTF?

      It seems to me that Pro-Israel talking heads are totally tone-deaf to the man on the street's opinions.

      Look a this article:GOP Hawks Worry Rand Paul Has Too Much Ron

      Matt Brooks, executive director of the RJC, says the group is trying to “help move him along” on his transformation.

      “I think, unlike his father, he is genuinely interested in reaching out to the Jewish community,” Brooks says.

      But several donors who have had private conversations with Paul about his foreign policy said those talks have not assuaged their concerns. And unlike his father, whose intensely supportive base was fairly contained, they worry that Paul’s smoother approach could make him a contender. “Can he win Iowa, yes. Can he win New Hampshire, yes. Can he win the nomination, maybe — and that’s scary,” says one former Mitt Romney bundler at the conference who did not want to be named.

      On the margins of the conference, where attendees heard from four potential 2016 candidates who advocated for a strong American foreign policy and support for Israel, five donors huddled with a reporter pledged to reach into their deep pockets to ensure Paul doesn’t win the GOP nomination.

      “The best thing that could happen is Ted Cruz and Rand Paul run and steal each other’s support,” says one of the donors, “but if not, we’ll be ready to take Paul down.”

      Several prominent GOP donors at the conference suggested that Adelson, who spent more than $100 million backing Newt Gingrich and Romney in 2012, is likely to spend vast sums against Paul if he appears to be well positioned in the Republican primaries. Adelson’s spending is largely motivated by his strong concern for Israel, and Paul’s positions may well put a target on his back.

      “Paul hasn’t — and probably will never — win the trust of the pro-Israel community,” says Noah Pollak, executive director of the conservative Emergency Committee for Israel, which ran ads against the elder Paul. “But his foreign policy problems run far deeper. His mustering of fake outrage over issues like Tomahawk-missile cuts and the persecution of Middle East Christians are a shiny-object strategy intended to contradict the correct impression that, at his core, he is more or less an isolationist.”

      What do you think most Americans think when they read that...

    • Has the thought not crossed anybody's mind that maybe this is Kerry and Obama setting Israel up for a "Joe Public" backlash in the US?

      They know their hands are tied on this issue due to domestic influences.

      They know Netanyahus's domestic situation in Israel means he'd have to jump at an offer like this - if offered.

      Israeli's are so tone-deaf to how this stuff plays outside the bubble they will be celebrating in the streets with a ticker-tape parade.

      What will Joe Public in small town USA be thinking watching that on CNN or Fox (if they show it of course!).

      Plus all the gloating talking-heads on the talk shows rubbing the US's face in it.

      Just a thought ;)

  • Obama's European message-- self-determination, equality, dignity-- is null and void in Palestine
  • U.S. intel analysts doubt Israeli claim that captured weapons were headed to Gaza
    • Reading comprehension is not your forte hophmi...

      A U.S. official and two non-Israeli regional sources said Israel appeared to be insisting on the Gaza destination in order to spare the military-backed interim Egyptian administration embarrassment as it struggles to impose order in the Sinai.

      It is not clear at all who these weapons were intended for or even if they were genuinely "captured".

  • Israeli embassy pressured Amnesty to cancel launch of 'apartheid' book -- Ben White
    • "I heard that attendance was “light” because some pro-Israel folks pre-reserved a “sell-out” audience and didn’t show."

      FAIL

    • My girlfriend attended the event.

      It was well attended but that was achieved despite some rather underhand tactics by Zionist groups to sabotage the event. A large number of tickets for the night (perhaps up to half according to what my girlfriend heard) were block-booked and then left empty in order to try to reduce the attendance.

      Unfortunately for the Zionists, people were so keen to attend the event that it was filled by ticketless guests who attended on the off-chance they could get returns...

  • Eyewitness account of Israeli soldier killing Palestinian judge reveals barbarity of occupation
    • It was reported in my local paper The Hackney Gazette:

      Hasbara don't fly here folks...

      Palestinian women’s Hackney visit ends in tragedy

      Four Palestinian women who visited Hackney to discuss human rights experienced a tragic end to their trip, when Israeli soldiers shot dead a judge travelling on the same bus as them.

      Dr Fadwa Allabadi, Dalia Abufanouneh, Bisan Mansour and Nawal Tarteer stayed with host families in Hackney and attended a number of events in the week leading up to International Women’s Day on March 8.

      But the women’s homecoming turned to tragedy last Monday, when the bus they were travelling home to Palestine from Jordan was stopped at the Allenby Bridge Jordanian-Israeli frontier.

      A Palestinian-Jordanian judge, 38-year-old Raed Zeiter, was taken off, shot and killed by Israeli soldiers.

      Sally Haywill of the Camden Abu Dis Friendship Association (CADFA), which arranged the trip, said the women are in deep shock.

      “The Hackney hosts had said goodbye to their guests at the weekend, never dreaming that the women would be undergoing such shocking experiences so soon,” she said.

      “The summary shooting and killing of the judge vividly emphasized something of the grim reality of the women’s daily lives that they tried to convey in their visit, including the routine abuse of human rights by the Israeli government.”

      The women’s schedule included visits to local the Claudia Jones Organisation, a group which supports women and families of African Caribbean heritage in Stoke Newington.

      At BSix Sixth Form College in Kenninghall Road, Upper Clapton they spoke to a room packed full of students and staff about the hardships they suffer at the hands of the illegal Israeli settlements in the West Bank.

      And on Friday the women along with 11 other visiting Palestinian women were guests of honour at a fundraising evening at the Turkish Halkevi Centre in Dalston attended by over 150 people.

      Over £1,000 was raised towards the costs of their trip to raise awareness of the situation in the occupied Palestinian territories.

      The Israeli military claimed troops opened fire on Mr Zeiter after he tried to snatch a weapon from one of its soldiers.

      But the Palestinian Authority and Jordan strongly condemned the incident and demanded an international investigation.

      All the passengers on the bus were subjected to intimate body searches and were held at the crossing for about 12 hours.

      Around 200 people demonstrated outside the Israeli embassy in Amman, demanding the Jordanian government expel the Israeli ambassador.

  • Ululating at Vassar: the Israel/Palestine conflict comes to America
    • "The fraud, thuggery and racism which suffuses this transplanted hate Israel fad is recognized more and more as brainwash for hormonal youth on campus."

      You are delusional - the US is the last bastion of suppoert for Israel and it is falling...

      With all the Hasbara in the world and complete control of official channels of information to shape the message...

      Israel is marginally more popular worldwide than Iran, North Korea and Pakistan.

      I think Iran may overtake you this year - their press has been rather good unlike Israel's

  • Grindr in Hebron: A dispatch from the last debate
    • Wikipedia article: Nation state

      "Most theories see the nation state as a 19th-century European phenomenon"

      JewEgg you are either disingenuous or a moron, I can't decide which...

  • 'Netanyahu is a Nazi': Scenes from an Orthodox anti-military draft protest in Jerusalem
  • Political Zionism is destroying a culture and a people, and intentionally so
    • But honestly, I’m not sure that Israel isn’t rather close to a high point globally as more and more countries and peoples are working with Israel.

      Well I guess I must be wrong and everything in the garden is rosy.

    • Zionism is doing rather well

      Yes JeffB, it has resulted in a nation desperate to salvage its sinking reputation with the most active PR apparatus in the known universe. A nation almost impossible to criticise in the US MSM, which is nevertheless a nation marginally more popular than North Korea, Pakistan and Iran in 2013 world opinion.

      What are the bets for Israel and Iran's postions in 2014 I wonder...

    • Start by replacing Judaism with Taoism, Israel with China, and Jews with Chinese."

      I guess this substitution seems clever to you - but all it shows is a pitiful lack of understanding of both Chinese culture and Taoism as a belief system.

      Stick to 19th Century ethnic-nationalist political ideologies.

      They're much more your cup of tea.

  • Cracks in the lobby: Wexler warns Netanyahu not to be 'cavalier' about US support
    • Another government official, reflecting on a recent visit by Chinese politicians to Israel, put matters more bluntly: “They don’t care about the [Palestinian] issue,” the official said. “They want to talk about three things: Israeli technology, Israeli technology and Israeli technology.

      Or to put it more accurately, the Chinese know that Israel can be relied upon to transfer technology that the US would baulk at, and the Chinese know that the US won't punish Israel for this, so there will be little diplomatic blow-back.

      In reality this should read; “They want to talk about three things: US technology, US technology and US technology.”

      As we all know Israel has a long record of passing U.S. military technology to China. And as we also know many "Israeli" innovations are claimed for US companies (Intel being the most obvious). If Israel was a sandbox and there was no "special relationship" to the US, no links to the US Jewish diaspora then there would be no "start-up nation". Israeli hi-tech is completely founded and co-dependent on the Israeli-US links.

      The Israeli's are insane if they think they can "pivot to Asia". While the Chinese may feel an affinity with the Jewish tradition of study, entrepreneurship and wealth creation, a JPPI report China and the Jewish People
      admits that Chinese essentializing of these traits would be considered anti-semitism coming from Westerners (as needs must the Chinese are given a pass!).

      The image of Jewish riches has existed in China for more than a hundred years. Images of success and power are linked to it. The Jews are admired, but perhaps also envied because they are seen to have what every Chinese wants to have for himself and his nation: money, success, and power...

      The explanations for Jewish money and the Jews’ alleged dominance of business, the banks, the stock exchange, the world economy, etc., have varied. There have been a small number of anti-Semitic expressions in line with hostile European attitudes, particularly in bio- graphical references to some of the former rich Jews of Shanghai.

      But in general, the Chinese traditions with regard to money and wealth are similar to those of the Jews, and different from the moral reticence that Christianity often
      maintained towards wealth. Both Chinese and Jews celebrate riches, success, and well-being in this world, not poverty.

      Therefore, when Chinese authors speak admiringly of the “commercial consciousness” of the Jewish Bible, or “the special sense that Jews have about money,” this must not be seen as a reflection of Western prejudice, though it may sound quite similar."

      Israel will never penetrate the political process in China as it has in America.

      Israel will never be able to use the Holocaust to guilt-trip the Chinese.

      Chinese sources list the total number of WWII military and non-military casualties, both dead and wounded, at 35 million. Most Western historians believed that the total number of casualties was at least 20 million.

      The US is the best sugar-daddy Israel will ever have, the Chinese will look after their own interests first... No special favours

  • When you watch football, you are complicit in violent assault
    • It's true, post-pub high street violence in the UK is far worse than anything you'd see at the football - nowadays...

      In the seventies and eighties however it was a serious problem.

      Changes in policing, all seater stadia and the advent of a more family friendly/television oriented game in the Premier League/Sky Sports era have completely changed the culture of football in the UK.

    • Meanwhile in the football where I come from permissible contact has been vastly reduced, yet people still reminisce fondly about the days when, "It was a mans game".

      Back then this was wasn't even a yellow card for Graeme Souness, he played for my team Liverpool, an amazing player but a dirty bastard!

  • On House floor, Gohmert says Blumenthal is anti-Semitic Jew who'd welcome another Holocaust
    • The Jewish People Policy Institute has published a strategy paper on cosying up to the Chinese here.

      Speaking of "how malleable and plastic the values have become or have always been to suit the current needs of the Zionist", here is a selected quote from the section "Money & Power" - the Chinese are cut a bit of slack on Anti-Semitism (after all the Jews might need'em when it all goes to shit in the US).

      The image of Jewish riches has existed in China for more than a hundred years. Images of success and power are linked to it. The Jews are admired, but perhaps also envied because they are seen to have what every Chinese wants to have for himself and his nation: money, success, and power...

      The explanations for Jewish money and the Jews’ alleged dominance of business, the banks, the stock exchange, the world economy, etc., have varied. There have been a small number of anti-Semitic expressions in line with hostile European attitudes, particularly in bio- graphical references to some of the former rich Jews of Shanghai.

      But in general, the Chinese traditions with regard to money and wealth are similar to those of the Jews, and different from the moral reticence that Christianity often
      maintained towards wealth. Both Chinese and Jews celebrate riches, success, and well-being in this world, not poverty.

      Therefore, when Chinese authors speak admiringly of the “commercial consciousness” of the Jewish Bible, or “the special sense that Jews have about money,” this must not be seen as a reflection of Western prejudice, though it may sound quite similar."

  • American Jews are 'endangered,' says Ari Shavit
    • I am half-chinese but born in the UK. My nationality is British, but I'm not really nationalistic about it. There are lots of aspects of my Chinese heritage which are great and which I'm proud of but I don't feel threatened or personally insulted by people who criticise China's human-rights record or advocate for Tibetan rights (although my Aunt who lives in Beijing does defend China over these things - using the same sort of whataboutery defence as defenders of Israel). I certainly don't throw my toys out of the pram and call people racists if they criticise China.

      Many of the Chinese community (even 1st generation) do consider England their home and would be insulted if you suggested a place they had never been was their "homeland". Mostly they relate to Chinese ethnicity culturally, not nationalistically.

      My grandfather hated the Japanese until the day he died, he was put in a prisoner of war camp and suffered a lot. The Japanese killed 15-20 million Chinese in WW2. I have many Japanese friends and don't hold them responsible for things which they played no part in...

  • St. Louis dumps Veolia
    • Nice one St Louis!

      Greetings from Hackney where we fought the same fight and won too.

      Keep up the good work.

  • 'American Idol's Simon Cowell joins Haim Saban to help raise $20 million for the IDF
  • National Security Agency gives data on Americans to the Israeli government
    • How right you are Amar...

      From the Guardian comment section:

      Rashers101
      11 September 2013 9:08pm

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      Here is a summary the US media's reaction to the revelation that the US government is spying on it's own citizens and giving that data, unfiltered, to Israel:

      New York Times
      Main Story is 'Inheriting the Family Apron' about young chefs. Other stories include 'Can Emotional Intelligence Be Taught?' and 'Bad Dog'. Nothing on the NSA.

      Washington Post
      Main story is 'Why couldn’t this baby see?' about a baby's mysterious blindness. They do have the NSA-Israel story buried deep in it's technology section behind half a dozen other stories such as 'Apple’s new iPhones: Do they compete?' It has about 20 comments, most wondering why this isn't front page news.

      Slate
      Main Story is 'Fourteen Oddball Reasons You’re Not Dead Yet'. Also has the NSA-Israel story as a blog post inaccessable from the front page with 5 comments, most wondering why this isn't headline news.

      Atlantic
      Main stories are 'What Witchcraft Is Facebook? and 'The Science of Snobbery''. Nothing on the NSA-Israel story.

      Drudge
      Everything from 'Bikers vs Muslims to 'One year since Benghazi attack...' but no headline or link to the Guardian story.

      Salon (Glenn Greenwald's old haunt)
      Has a story on 'Why doesn’t NSA spy on Wall Street?' but doesn't seem to know that (a) it does and (b) it gives that information to Israel.

      LA Times
      Main stories are on 9-11 anniversary and Syria, but nothing on NSA-Israel link.

      In contrast, the Israeli media were all running this with banner headlines as soon as it was published. The BBC has nothing.

      Is it just me, or is there something very wrong here?

  • 'The era of sanctions against Israel has started': Official BDS movement statement on new EU regulations against settlements
  • Kerry's 3 a.m. diplomacy is greeted with skepticism, scorn, ridicule
    • "As pointed out there the Palestinian leaders throughout the history of this conflict have been “bad losers”. In other conflicts one side triumphs, the victor takes the spoils and the vanquished move on. Not in this conflict though, because the losers cannot accept defeat and they keep on wanting to get rid of Israel. The support the world gives the Palestinian cause only helps to prolong the conflict."

      The world is "Red in Tooth and Claw" and the losers just have to put up with it...

      Unfortunately for Israel the demographics and the waning geopolitical influence of the USA - their only supporter in the global sphere - does not bode well over the long term. Current realities mean Israel will never be able to exterminate the Palestinians as the Native Americans or Arawaks were exterminated. This ultimately leads to the conclusion that Israel is untenable over the long-term with an exodus to the US likely - as allegedly predicted by the CIA.

      link to digitaljournal.com

      The likely reversal of Israeli Hasbara's hold on the narrative after this plays out means few tears are likely to be shed...

  • A dozen Palestinian children 'on big adventure of their lives' are balked when teacher is stopped from traveling
    • I know Nandita, she is extremely dedicated to this cause, she'll be gutted and really upset by this. This will have cost them a lot of money which will have taken a lot of hard work for her small organisation to raise. So frustrating for her and the children.

      Petty, vindictive and inhuman.

      Zionism in action.

  • Latest DC mantra: The two-state solution is dead, long live the two-state solution!
    • "suddenly we’re delegitimizing the entire Jewish history"

      Actually I don't believe I am delegitimizing Jewish history, I am merely questioning the historical accuracy of the Old Testament.

      Jewish History exists separately and in addition to the historical narrative in the bible texts.

      Like all history it is subject to revision over time as new documents, archaeological discoveries and improvements in scholarship and research and analysis techniques emerge.

      I may be delegitimising Jewish myth...

      Nobody complains when people claim that the Rig-Veda is not historically accurate, or claims that the Indian people are being delegitimized.

    • Religious texts do not present reliable historical narratives in most instances. They are valuable historical documents (in the original) but should be seen through the critical lens of scholarship.

      The Bible is full of bunk as far as historical accuracy is concerned...

      link to yorku.ca

      In the last quarter century or so, archaeologists have seen one settled assumption after another concerning who the ancient Israelites were and where they came from proved false. Rather than a band of invaders who fought their way into the Holy Land, the Israelites are now thought to have been an 'indigenous culture that developed west of the Jordan River around 1200 B.C. Abraham, Isaac, and the other patriarchs appear to have been spliced together out of various pieces of local lore. The Davidic Empire, which archaeologists once thought as incontrovertible as the Roman, is now seen as an invention of Jerusalem-based priests in the seventh and eighth centuries B.C. who were eager to burnish their national history. The religion we call Judaism does not reach well back into the second millennium B.C. but appears to be, at most, a product of the mid-first.

      This is not to say that individual elements of the story are not older. But Jewish monotheism, the sole and exclusive worship of an ancient Semitic god known as Yahweh, did not fully coalesce until the period between the Assyrian conquest of the northern Jewish kingdom of Israel in 722 B.C. and the Babylonian conquest of the southern kingdom of Judah in 586.

      Some twelve to fourteen centuries of "Abrahamic" religious development, the cultural wellspring that has given us not only Judaism but Islam and Christianity, have thus been erased. Judaism appears to have been the product not of some dark and nebulous period of early history but of a more modern age of big-power politics in which every nation aspired to the imperial greatness of a Babylon or an Egypt . Judah, the sole remaining Jewish outpost by the late eighth century B.C., was a small, out-of-the-way kingdom with little in the way of military or financial clout. Yet at some point its priests and rulers seem to have been seized with the idea that their national deity, now deemed to be nothing less than the king of the universe, was about to transform them into a great power. They set about creating an imperial past commensurate with such an empire, one that had the southern heroes of David and Solomon conquering the northern kingdom and making rival kings tremble throughout the known world. From a "henotheistic" cult in which Yahweh was worshiped as the chief god among many, they refashioned the national religion so that henceforth Yahweh would be worshiped to the exclusion of all other deities.

      This was not all. As Israel Finkelstein, an archaeologist at Tel Aviv University, and Neil Asher Silberman, a journalist who specializes in biblical and religious subjects, point out in their recent book, The Bible Unearthed, the patriarchal tales make frequent mention of camel caravans. When, for example, Abraham sent one of his servants to look for a wife for Abraham's son, Isaac, Genesis 24 says that the emissary "took ten of his master's camels and left, taking with him all kinds of good things from his master." Yet analysis of ancient animal bones confirms that camels were not widely used for transport in the region until well after 1000 B.C. Genesis 26 tells of Isaac seeking help from a certain "Abimelech, king of the Philistines." Yet archaeological research has confirmed that the Philistines were not a presence in the area until after 1200 B.C. The wealth of detail concerning people, goods, and cities that makes the patriarchal tales so vivid and lifelike, archaeologists discovered, were reflective of a period long after the one that Albright had pinpointed. They were reflective of the mid-first millennium, not the early second.

      Then came a series of archaeological studies conducted in the aftermath of the Six-Day War in 1967. Previously archaeologists had intensively studied specific sites and locales, digging deep in order to determine how technology and culture had changed from one century to the next. Now they tramped through hills and valleys looking for pottery shards and remnants of ancient walls in order to map out how settlement patterns had ebbed and flowed across broad stretches of terrain. Whereas previously archaeologists had concentrated on the lowland cities where the great battles mentioned in the Bible were said to have taken place, they now shifted their attention to the highlands located in the present West Bank . The results were little short of revolutionary. Rather than revealing that Canaan was entered from the outside, analysis of ancient settlement patterns indicated that a distinctive Israelite culture arose locally around 1200 B.C. as nomadic shepherds and goatherds ceased their wanderings and began settling down in the nearby uplands. Instead of an alien culture, the Israelites were indigenous. Indeed, they were highly similar to other cultures that were emerging in the region around the same time--except for one thing: whereas archaeologists found pig bones in other sites, they found none among the Israelites. A prohibition on eating pork may have been one of the earliest ways in which the Israelites distinguished themselves from their neighbors.

      Thus there was no migration from Mesopotamia , no sojourn in Egypt , and no exodus. There was no conquest upon the Israelites' return and, for that matter, no peaceful infiltration such as the one advanced by Yohanan Aharoni. Rather than conquerors, the Hebrews were a native people who had never left in the first place. So why invent for themselves an identity as exiles and invaders? One reason may have been that people in the ancient world did not establish rights to a particular piece of territory by farming or by raising families on it but by seizing it through force of arms. Indigenous rights are an ideological invention of the twentieth century A.D. and are still not fully established in the twenty-first, as the plight of today's Palestinians would indicate. The only way that the Israelites could establish a moral right to the land they inhabited was by claiming to have conquered it sometime in the distant past. Given the brutal power politics of the day, a nation either enslaved others or was enslaved itself, and the Israelites were determined not to fall into the latter category.

      If the Old Testament is to be believed, David and Solomon, rulers of the southern kingdom of Judah from about 1005 to about 931 B.C., made themselves masters of the northern kingdom of Israel as well. They represent, in the official account, a rare moment of national unity and power; under their reign, the combined kingdom was a force throughout the Fertile Crescent . The unified kingdom is said to have split into two rump states shortly after Solomon's death and, thus weakened, was all too easy for the Assyrian Empire and its Babylonian successor to pick off. But did a united monarchy encompassing all twelve tribes ever truly exist?

      According to the Bible, Solomon was both a master builder and an insatiable accumulator. He drank out of golden goblets, outfitted his soldiers with golden shields, maintained a fleet of sailing ships to seek out exotic treasures, kept a harem of 1,000 wives and concubines, and spent thirteen years building a palace and a richly decorated temple to house the Ark of the Covenant. Yet not one goblet, not one brick, has ever been found to indicate that such a reign existed. If David and Solomon had been important regional power brokers, one might reasonably expect their names to crop up on monuments and in the diplomatic correspondence of the day. Yet once again the record is silent. True, an inscription referring to "Ahaziahu, son of Jehoram, king of the House of David" was found in 1993 on a fragment dating from the late ninth century B.C. But that was more than a hundred years after David's death, and at most all it indicates is that David (or someone with a similar name) was credited with establishing the Judahite royal line. It hardly proves that he ruled over a powerful empire.

      Moreover, by the 1970s and 1980s a good deal of countervailing evidence--or, rather, lack of evidence--was beginning to accumulate. Supposedly, David had used his power base in Judah as a springboard from which to conquer the north. But archaeological surveys of the southern hill country show that Judah in the eleventh and tenth centuries B.C. was too poor and backward and sparsely populated to support such a military expedition. Moreover, there was no evidence of wealth or booty flowing back to the southern power base once the conquest of the north had taken place. Jerusalem seems to have been hardly more than a rural village when Solomon was reportedly transforming it into a glittering capital. And although archaeologists had long credited Solomon with the construction of major palaces in the northern cities of Gezer , Hazor, and Megiddo (better known as the site of Armageddon), recent analysis of pottery shards found on the sites, plus refined carbon-14 dating techniques, indicate that the palaces postdate Solomon's reign by a century or more.

      Finkelstein and Silberman concluded that Judah and Israel had never existed under the same roof. The Israelite culture that had taken shape in the central hill country around 1200 B.C. had evolved into two distinct kingdoms from the start. Whereas Judah remained weak and isolated, Israel did in fact develop into an important regional power beginning around 900 B.C. It was as strong and rich as David and Solomon's kingdom had supposedly been a century earlier, yet it was not the sort of state of which the Jewish priesthood approved. The reason had to do with the nature of the northern kingdom's expansion. As Israel grew, various foreign cultures came under its sway, cultures that sacrificed to gods other than Yahweh. Pluralism became the order of the day: the northern kings could manage such a diverse empire only by allowing these cultures to worship their own gods in return for their continued loyalty. The result was a policy of religious syncretism, a theological pastiche in which the cult of Yahweh coexisted alongside those of other Semitic deities.

      When the northern kingdom fell to the Assyrians, the Jewish priesthood concluded not that Israel had played its cards badly in the game of international politics but that by tolerating other cults it had given grave offense to the only god that mattered. Joining ,a stream of refugees to the south, the priests swelled the ranks of an influential political party dedicated to the proposition that the only way for Judah to avoid a similar fate was to cleanse itself of all rival beliefs and devote itself exclusively to Yahweh.

      "They did wicked things that provoked Yahweh to anger. They worshiped idols, though Yahweh had said, `You shall not do this.'" Such was the "Yahweh-alone" movement's explanation for Israel 's downfall. The monotheistic movement reached a climax in the late seventh century B.C. when a certain King Josiah took the throne and gave the go-ahead for a long-awaited purge. Storming through the countryside, Josiah and his Yahwist supporters destroyed rival shrines, slaughtered alien priests, defiled their altars, and ensured that henceforth even Jewish sacrifice take place exclusively in Jerusalem, where the priests could exercise tight control. The result, the priests and scribes believed, was a national renaissance that would soon lead to the liberation of the north and a similar cleansing there as well.

      But then: disaster. After allowing his priests to establish a rigid religious dictatorship, Josiah rode off to rendezvous with an Egyptian pharaoh named Necho in the year 609 B.C. Although Chronicles says that the two monarchs met to do battle, archaeologists, pointing out that Josiah was in no position to challenge the mighty Egyptian army, suspect that Necho merely summoned Josiah to some sort of royal parley and then had him killed for unknown reasons. A model of pious rectitude, Josiah had done everything he thought God wanted of him. He had purified his kingdom and consecrated his people exclusively to Yahweh. Yet he suffered regardless. Judah entered into a period of decline culminating some twenty-three years later in the Babylonian conquest and exile.

  • Why Palestine is different
    • Hey john h

      don't blame the messenger, I'm quoting Citizen ;)

    • It is also interesting to note the participants of the "brainstorming" sessions for these JPPI reports. A small selection of the better known names:

      Elliott Abrams, Alan Dershowitz, Abe Foxman, Malcolm Hoenlein, Steve Hoffman, Jeremy Issacharoff, Henry Kissinger, Charles Krauthammer, Isaac Molho, Dennis Ross, Dan Shapiro
      Natan Sharansky, Lawrence Summers.

      These are not marginal figures and they are putting their names on reports that essentially conclude that by 2030 the global influence of the US is likely to have decreased and that the "Jewish People" (not Israel) needs to act now to ensure that it has influence in China to ensure Jewish access to ongoing prosperity and geopolitical influence.

      The positioning in these reports of the interests of the "Jewish People", as separate and in some ways antithetical to, the interests of the US (the country where most of these brainstorming participants hold citizenship) is notable.

    • Israel is now sucking up to China & India, as it has always sucked up to any big powers, in the tradition of Zionism, but it’s gonna come up empty–for obvious reasons. There’s no white Christian or white secular guilt resident in China or Israel.

      The Jewish People Policy Institute has two interesting policy papers on this subject.

      Policy paper: China and the Jewish People
      link to jppi.org.il

      (Introductory Paragraphs)

      Why China?
      China is re-emerging as a great power. This has global impacts in many areas. China’s domestic policies and foreign alignments are in flux. Its elites are avidly absorbing new knowledge and are open to many influences. The time to link up with China is now.

      Jewish history of the last two centuries was dominated by the fact that until 1939, up to 90 percent of all Jews lived in Europe and America, the two continents that determined the fate of the world. But the Shoah and the establishment of Israel have radically altered the geographic distribution of the Jews, and a gradual geopolitical power shift towards Asia is underway. These changes constitute a watershed in Jewish history and open up new oppor- tunities that must not be missed.

      Why will China’s policies affect the future of the Jewish people?

      For the first time, China will directly influence the fate of the Jews. The main challenges that China is facing are not created by Jews but will affect them. Jewish policy makers must put relations with China into a grand strategic frame.

      2030: Alternative Futures for the Jewish People
      link to jppi.org.il

      The power of the Jewish People as a whole in the first part of the 21st Century is unprecedented in Jewish history. Israel is a major Middle Eastern power with military capacities surpassing those of any combination of Arab states, supported by excellent intelligence and a regional perception of significant nuclear capacities.

      The special relationship between the US and Israel contributes an additional crucial element to Israeli power, and the Jewish community in the USA exerts significant influence, in terms of political strength and soft power. However, the several key trends put into question the future of that power:

      • Power is a relative concept: the possibility of a nuclear Iran and proliferation of weapons of mass killing to potential enemies of Israel may reduce significantly the net hard power advantage of Israel. New forms of confrontation taking the form of asymmetric medium-intensity conflict, as illustrated by Hezbollah and Hamas pose new types of challenges. New forms of anti-Semitism and anti-Israelism may increasingly delegitimize Israel, and domestic developments in the US may decrease Jewish influence and soft power.

      • The global standing of the US may decrease, its involvement in the Middle East may diminish and its special relationship with Israel may be downgraded.

      • The economic crisis may cause long-term damage to Israel and weaken Jewish communities reducing their action capabilities.

      • Continuing conflicts may demoralize parts of the Israeli population and reduce their staying power.

      At the same time, other trends point towards an increase in the hard and soft power of the Jewish People:

      • Progress towards a Middle East peace agreement can significantly improve the global standing of Israel and reduce security dangers.

      • Good relations with emerging superpowers, such as China and India, could upgrade the soft power of the Jewish People.

      • Continuous scientific and technological as well as humanistic creativity could strengthen Jewish soft power.

      • Improved policy planning and strategic thinking together with a new type of Jewish foundational leadership can significantly improve the uses of power and thus making it more effective.

      Some of the stuff in these reports would no doubt result in accusations of anti-semitism if it were published by Gentiles…

    • "Israel is now sucking up to China & India, as it has always sucked up to any big powers, in the tradition of Zionism, but it’s gonna come up empty–for obvious reasons. There’s no white Christian or white secular guilt resident in China or Israel."

      The Jewish People Policy Institute has two interesting policy papers on this subject.

      Policy paper: China and the Jewish People
      link to jppi.org.il

      (Introductory Paragraphs)
      Why China?
      China is re-emerging as a great power. This has global impacts in many areas. China’s domestic policies and foreign alignments are in flux. Its elites are avidly absorbing new knowledge and are open to many influences. The time to link up with China is now.

      Jewish history of the last two centuries was dominated by the fact that until 1939, up to 90 percent of all Jews lived in Europe and America, the two continents that determined the fate of the world. But the Shoah and the establishment of Israel have radically altered the geographic distribution of the Jews, and a gradual geopolitical power shift towards Asia is underway. These changes constitute a watershed in Jewish history and open up new oppor- tunities that must not be missed.

      Why will China’s policies affect the future of the Jewish people?

      For the first time, China will directly influence the fate of the Jews. The main challenges that China is facing are not created by Jews but will affect them. Jewish policy makers must put relations with China into a grand strategic frame.

      2030: Alternative Futures for the Jewish People
      link to jppi.org.il

      The power of the Jewish People as a whole in the first part of the 21st Century is unprecedented in Jewish history. Israel is a major Middle Eastern power with military capacities surpassing those of any combination of Arab states, supported by excellent intelligence and a regional perception of significant nuclear capacities.

      The special relationship between the US and Israel contributes an additional crucial element to Israeli power, and the Jewish community in the USA exerts significant influence, in terms of political strength and soft power. However, the several key trends put into question the future of that power:

      • Power is a relative concept: the possibility of a nuclear Iran and proliferation of weapons of mass killing to potential enemies of Israel may reduce significantly the net hard power advantage of Israel. New forms of confrontation taking the form of asymmetric medium-intensity conflict, as illustrated by Hezbollah and Hamas pose new types of challenges. New forms of anti-Semitism and anti-Israelism may increasingly delegitimize Israel, and domestic developments in the US may decrease Jewish influence and soft power.

      • The global standing of the US may decrease, its involvement in the Middle East may diminish and its special relationship with Israel may be downgraded.

      • The economic crisis may cause long-term damage to Israel and weaken Jewish communities reducing their action capabilities.

      • Continuing conflicts may demoralize parts of the Israeli population and reduce their staying power.

      At the same time, other trends point towards an increase in the hard and soft power of the Jewish People:

      • Progress towards a Middle East peace agreement can significantly improve the global standing of Israel and reduce security dangers.

      • Good relations with emerging superpowers, such as China and India, could upgrade the soft power of the Jewish People.

      • Continuous scientific and technological as well as humanistic creativity could strengthen Jewish soft power.

      • Improved policy planning and strategic thinking together with a new type of Jewish foundational leadership can significantly improve the uses of power and thus making it more effective.

      Some of the stuff in these reports would no doubt result in accusations of anti-semitism if it were published by Gentiles...

  • Reality check-- John Kerry prepares to stick fork in two-state solution
  • Which lobby is more powerful?
    • The new narrative coming from the White House is:

      Kerry: Two years left to reach two-state solution in Middle East peace process

      link to guardian.co.uk

      If the US throws in its hand and opens up the card game to the international community how long before Israel is staring at full South Africa style pariah status. It's already happening on campus' around the globe and that's where it always starts...

  • Innocent until proven Muslim
    • "People have said we are a new Rome. We’re probably greater than Rome"

      I think that could be an exaggeration.

      America is young and some Americans seem to lack historical perspective...

      -----------------------------------

      The Roman Empire was the first great western super power. At its height it counted at least 50 million subjects and covered about two millions square miles (about half the size of modern China). Since the dawn of recorded history, the Western world had been composed of city-states—small political entities that often fought and sacked another and resisted attempts to forge large empires.

      What was so extraordinary about the Roman Empire was not it size—other conquerors such as the Mongols ruled larger empires—but it is longevity. Rome presided over a large empire made up of multitude of races and ethnic groups for nearly five centuries. In contracts, the great empires of the Mongols, Spain and England lasted for only a few centuries at the most.

      link to factsanddetails.com

  • Palestinian-American boy, 14, locked up in Israeli military jail
    • It's not a problem because he's a Palestinian and although human rights are a nice idea it's naive to think they should apply to Palestinians...

      He must have thrown stones because the IDF said so, and they never lie...

      Don't imagine this happening to a Jewish child elsewhere in the world and what the reaction would be. That's unfair and Anti-Semitic...

      The US and Israel are not to blame here. This kid had it coming to him. You just wait and see, they'll torture a confession out of him soon and then all you bleeding-hearts will eat humble pie...

  • In landmark case on Israel and Jewish identity, British tribunal says anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism
    • "Denying the historical ties of Jews to the Holy Land"

      link to american-buddha.com

      "denying there were 2 Temples on Mt. Moriah (temple mount)"

      link to wrmea.org

      "denying today’s Jews have ancestral links to each other (sephardim and ashkenazim)and to the ancient Israelites"

      link to haaretz.com

      Archaeology and genetic science are Anti-Semitic! Who knew :)

    • I have been following the case closely here in the UK. It has had hardly any major press coverage. The Haaretz article misrepresents the facts quite substantially.

      "But the well-built and detailed case was shattered by the tribunal’s ruling. The panel, headed by Judge A.M. Snelson, accepted UCU’s version of all the events in question, and found that most of the claims were no longer valid in any case, due to a change in the laws."

      The change in the law actually favoured the case, however the case was not well built as is demonstrated by the commentary by other Zionists in the legal profession. (From an article in the JC link to thejc.com )
      -------------------------------------------------------------
      One lawyer active in Jewish affairs, Jonathan Goldberg QC, commented: “This enormous but legally flawed lawsuit was an act of epic folly by all concerned which will negatively impact our community for a long time to come. You only bring such showcase litigation if you are certain to win.”

      The chairman of UK Lawyers for Israel, Jonathan Turner, also questioned the wisdom of bringing the action. “I had deep misgivings and feared it would fail,” he said. But he called it “a reverse, not a disaster”, suggesting that lessons could be learned on “which cases to fight and how”.
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      "Julius responded that it was simply a standard anti-Semitic ploy of dividing Jews into good-Jew/bad-Jew categories."

      How heinous! Zionists would never do such a thing...

      Here is the UCU statement:

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      UCU cleared of harassment in landmark tribunal

      25 March 2013
      An Employment Tribunal has found in favour of UCU on all ten complaints of harassment brought by a UCU member who opposed the union's policy on Palestine.

      The claimant had been supported in his claim by leading lawyer Anthony Julius. In giving their reasoning the Tribunal stated that 'the proceedings are dismissed in their totality' and 'we greatly regret that the case was ever brought. At heart it represents an impermissible attempt to achieve a political end by litigious means.'

      The Tribunal also described themselves as troubled by the implications of the claim, stating that 'underlying it we sense a worrying disregard for pluralism, tolerance and freedom of expression, principles which the courts and tribunals are, and must be, vigilant to protect'.

      While witnesses for UCU were described in the tribunal's decision as 'careful and accurate', some witnesses for the claimant were described as appearing to 'misunderstand the nature of the proceedings and more disposed to score points or play to the gallery rather than providing straightforward answers to the clear questions put to them'.

      John Mann MP and former MP Denis MacShane were collectively described as giving 'glib evidence, while testimony of another key witness for the claimant was described as 'extraordinarily arrogant but also disturbing'.

      UCU general secretary Sally Hunt said: 'I am delighted that the Tribunal has made such a clear and overwhelming judgement in UCU's favour. There are many different views within UCU and wider society about Israel and Palestine and this decision upholds our and others' right to freedom of expression and to continue to properly debate these and other difficult questions.

      'This has been an extremely difficult period for the UCU staff and members involved in defending the union's position and I am especially pleased therefore that the Tribunal found our witnesses to be careful and accurate.

      'The claimant, while unsuccessful, of course had the right to challenge the union in the courts and will be treated with respect within the union as will his views on this question. Now that a decision has been made I hope in turn that he, and others who share his views, will play an active part in the union and its debates rather than seek recourse to the law.

      'For our part, UCU will look at our own processes to see if improvements can be made in line with the advice given to us within the decision. We remain opposed to discrimination of any kind including anti-Semitism and we will work with energy and determination with all who will work with us to oppose it in the workplace and society at large.'
      ----------------------------------------------------

      Lots of coverage of this at Mark Elf's site: link to jewssansfrontieres.blogspot.co.uk

  • Hiroshima epiphany
    • "Those who feel the need to say that there is “nothing terribly unique” about the Holocaust are, in my opinion, driven by anti-Semitism. “Not terribly unique.” What an ugly, cavalier way of speaking about mass murder."

      MJ here is an alternative explanation - (BTW I do think it is insensitive to say that).

      That some people are not driven to say there is “nothing terribly unique” about the Holocaust by anti-semitism, but rather by incredible frustration at the constant exploitation of the Holocaust for political reasons by certain members of the Jewish community.

      The fact is, just mentioning by way of context the factual information that a larger number of Russians or Chinese were killed in the war or that there were an almost equal or larger number of Non-Jewish victims of the Nazis is seen as in some way justifying the extermination of Jews. This is highly irrational and can surely be linked to the collective psychological trauma of the Holocaust.

      "I could, if I wanted to, find hundreds if not thousands of anti-Semitic statements here. My beloved friend, Phil, should either shut down all comments or preferably screen them for anti-Semitism, Islamohatred and other forms of bigotry."

      And yet you provide this rather weak example...

      I am a great admirer of your commentary overall but I think you mistake insensitivity for racism here.

  • Obama went to Israel to try to rescue the state from deepening isolation
    • "Unconditional support from the US *and* all the countries that follow the US remains I presume."

      Wanna bet?

      "The United Nations general assembly voted overwhelmingly on Thursday to recognise Palestine as a state, in the face of opposition from Israel and the US.

      The 193-member assembly voted 138 in favour of the plan, with only nine against and 41 abstentions. The scale of the defeat represented a strong and public repudiation for Israel and the US, who find themselves out of step with the rest of the world.

      ........

      But the coalition against the vote was thin. Apart from Israel and the US, those voting against were Canada, the Czech Republic, the Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru, Palau and Panama.

      European countries such as France, Italy, Spain, Norway, Denmark and Switzerland all voted yes. Britain and Germany both abstained, with Britain saying Abbas had failed to promise he would resume peace negotiations with Israel."

    • Yes Israel doesn't have an isolation problem, no one in Israel is worried about this:

      link to mondoweiss.net

      link to electronicintifada.net

      link to reut-institute.org

      Taking your fingers out of your ears may help...

    • "Obama went to Israel to try to rescue the state from deepening isolation"

      Good luck with that...

  • Zionists thrill that Obama will recognize ancient Jewish connection to 'homeland' (undoing his Cairo error)
    • "How truly educated are these people who can look at this evidence that, to any honest observer would lead to the conclusion that there is no truth to the religious, but yet still profess a faith in that religion or that religion’s god concept?"

      Well I have some sympathy for people who feel a need to engage with some sort of "spirituality". A feeling that there is some mysterious level of understanding or engagement that we can have as humans that is beyond or outside our rational understanding. Religious or spiritual beliefs would surely not be so common in almost every culture if this were not something that humans have a natural inclination towards.

      If only people could just accept that their particular "brand" is merely a vessel to finding a universal truth and be satisfied that the only reason that they choose to use that vessel is likely an accident of birth.

      Or just choose the one that suits them best without needing to insist that all the other vessels are "wrong" in some way.

      The prejudice, intolerance and lack of critical thinking that are actively encouraged in many religious cultures are what have put me off being involved in any organised religion since I was a small child (also I was not raised religious which is usually the primary factor - again an accident of birth).

      However I have found much inspiration and insight from Taoist texts and often re-read them for reasons I cannot completely explain - other that they satisfy some part of my consciousness that gravitates toward the "spiritual" side of understanding the world...

      How any intelligent person could see the religious texts of any major religion as serious and accurate records of history rather than a heterogenous collection of stories intended to direct one on a spiritual path through parable and example is beyond me...

    • Exactly, the Bible is not a history book. When fundamentalist Christians take the Bible literally in this way (earth is 6000 years old etc) they are laughed at by educated people for being unsophisticated. When they seek to deny evolution on this basis they are ridiculed.

      What is so different in this case?

      It's commonly acknowledged in academia and by educated people that most of what is contained in the Bible is simply not historically accurate. This especially applies to the "History of the Jews" as they are the original myth-makers...

      So why do so many educated Jewish people feign ignorance of this basic and obvious fact.

    • Oh there's plenty more where that came from Annie:

      "Whereas previously archaeologists had concentrated on the lowland cities where the great battles mentioned in the Bible were said to have taken place, they now shifted their attention to the highlands located in the present West Bank. The results were little short of revolutionary. Rather than revealing that Canaan was entered from the outside, analysis of ancient settlement patterns indicated that a distinctive Israelite culture arose locally around 1200 B.C. as nomadic shepherds and goatherds ceased their wanderings and began settling down in the nearby uplands. Instead of an alien culture, the Israelites were indigenous. Indeed, they were highly similar to other cultures that were emerging in the region around the same time--except for one thing: whereas archaeologists found pig bones in other sites, they found none among the Israelites. A prohibition on eating pork may have been one of the earliest ways in which the Israelites distinguished themselves from their neighbors.

      Thus there was no migration from Mesopotamia, no sojourn in Egypt, and no exodus. There was no conquest upon the Israelites' return and, for that matter, no peaceful infiltration such as the one advanced by Yohanan Aharoni. Rather than conquerors, the Hebrews were a native people who had never left in the first place. So why invent for themselves an identity as exiles and invaders? One reason may have been that people in the ancient world did not establish rights to a particular piece of territory by farming or by raising families on it but by seizing it through force of arms. Indigenous rights are an ideological invention of the twentieth century A.D. and are still not fully established in the twenty-first, as the plight of today's Palestinians would indicate. The only way that the Israelites could establish a moral right to the land they inhabited was by claiming to have conquered it sometime in the distant past. Given the brutal power politics of the day, a nation either enslaved others or was enslaved itself, and the Israelites were determined not to fall into the latter category."

      Mileikowsky is talking out of his arse...

    • "In Cairo, Halevi said, Obama failed to acknowledge "Jewish indigenousness in the region," the idea that history -- the uninterrupted Jewish presence in the lands of ancient Israel for more than 3,000 years -- justifies the modern Jewish claim to a state there."

      Fraudulent self-justifying ahistorical Bullshit as modern archaeology demonstrates...

      "The Davidic Empire, which archaeologists once thought as incontrovertible as the Roman, is now seen as an invention of Jerusalem-based priests in the seventh and eighth centuries B.C. who were eager to burnish their national history. The religion we call Judaism does not reach well back into the second millennium B.C. but appears to be, at most, a product of the mid-first.

      This is not to say that individual elements of the story are not older. But Jewish monotheism, the sole and exclusive worship of an ancient Semitic god known as Yahweh, did not fully coalesce until the period between the Assyrian conquest of the northern Jewish kingdom of Israel in 722 B.C. and the Babylonian conquest of the southern kingdom of Judah in 586. "

      link to naderlibrary.com

  • Netherlands takes bold move: settlement products must be labeled
    • Mayhem and all the other Jewish nationalists like him are a more likely cause of anti-semitism than any in-built prejudice of Gentiles.

      History will record that Zionism was not "Good for the Jews"...

  • Celebrating 911
  • Endless 'debate over two-state solution' is cover for the real story, annexation of West Bank
    • Guardian "Likud members call for Israeli annexation of West Bank territories"

      link to guardian.co.uk

      How long until this becomes the consensus opinion on the situation in Israel...

      2 state solution dead

      Annexation imminent

      What to do?

      NIE predictions not looking good for Israel for some time now

  • Neocons, wearing jackboots, are suddenly on the defensive over Hagel
    • "how about you take a walk around any european country with a kippah on"

      Typical comment from paranoid ethnic nationalist - probably never visited Europe...

      Much of Europe is equally or more tolerant of diversity than the US.

      Why do you think so many young Israelis are emigrating to Berlin etc?

  • Terror lurking in a Christmas tree? Israel tries to ban non-Jewish celebrations
  • Veolia withdraws bid for North London waste contract under boycott pressure
    • This was one of the reasons we didn't want Veolia.

      Who would bear the costs incurred if Veolia were declared bankrupt part way into the £4.7 billion contract?

      Taxpayers would be the last in line to get their money back - that's for damn sure...

    • We were surprised when the deputation was blocked. We just expected a bit of fuss from some of the councillors who are Zionists and to be pretty much ignored. That it developed into a local scandal was opportune for us...

      Here's the latest from the Hackney Gazette, this doesn't really reflect well on the Mayor and the councillors involved.

      link to hackneygazette.co.uk

      link to hackneygazette.co.uk

    • @straightline

      It's one of my favourites too...

      Translation:

      “David, Martin, Jonathan,

      Please refrain from putting any more [embarrasing] responses on this site. You are only giving Dobbs, Miranda Molly, Benjamin and the rest a platform [to make us look stupid and bigoted].

      Please any intelligent reader of this page will realise what is going on [we are rabid ethnic nationalists and will continue to defend the indefensible]. They will always have to have the last word, so feel free to follow on after I post this [our arguments can't win in a rational debate so probably time to call it quits before we do any more damage by exposing ourselves in a public forum”

    • @DICKERSON3870

      We are lucky to have loose cannons like Jonathon Hoffman here in the UK.
      Without his indiscreet revelations link to thejc.com I doubt we ever would have found out about the involvement on UK Lawyers for Israel. He simply can't keep his mouth shut and has a pathological need to crow about the bullying tactics he and his cronies employ.

      He encounters significant opposition among the Zionist establishment here as he is an attention-seeker and embarrassment to them. You can see the sort of unsavoury character he is here http://hoffmanchronicled.wordpress.com

      Nevertheless Stephen Pollard editor of the Jewish Chronicle "The UK's oldest and most widely-read Jewish newspaper" allows Hoffman to have a blog at the newspaper's website link to thejc.com Hoffman uses this blog to engage in petty feuds and to spew his usual bile and misinformation. I suspect many in the UK Jewish community find it all highly embarrassing and rather distasteful and this may be partly responsible for the JC's plummeting readership figures...

    • I was in the council chamber when Caroline had her deputation blocked.
      Zionists seem so driven by their ideological passions that they cannot think strategically. If they had just allowed Caroline to speak the deputation would probably have been ignored and caused very little trouble - but they had to show her that they could prevent her speech. Well frankly it has backfired terribly on them generating a lot of negative and controversial coverage in our local newspapers.

      We had no idea of the revelations that would follow:
      link to occupynewsnetwork.co.uk

      The comments at the Hackney Citizen article reporting the blocking of the deputation are quite revealing of the mindset of our local Zionists (i.e. pretty unhinged...):
      link to hackneycitizen.co.uk

      The Hackney Gazette also reported the story:
      link to hackneygazette.co.uk

      The Hackney Citizen then ran an editorial criticising the decision to block the motion:
      link to hackneycitizen.co.uk

      Now with the news of Veolia pulling out the Hackney Citizen had run another article which further outlines the role of Luke Akehurst, an employee of BICOM (the UK's closest thing to AIPAC) in blocking Caroline's deputation. He formerly worked in PR for the arms industry:
      link to hackneycitizen.co.uk

      All in all, the blocking of the deputation has contributed greatly to causing exactly the sort of bad publicity I'm sure Veolia are desperate to avoid.

      Stupid Zionists...

  • New Yorkers to march on GE over its role in Gaza bombardments
  • Two days after ceasefire Israel kills Palestinian man in Khan Younis
  • As the discourse shifts, 'NYT' stays rooted in the past (the 1800s to be exact)
    • The Guardian are put under enormous pressure by Pro-Israel activists in the UK and I would imagine there is some support from the US as well as the Guardian website is quite well read in the States as an alternative to US corporate media. This website "CIF Watch" link to cifwatch.com was set up specifically to pressurise their comment section (I imagine it was seen as being influential). I'd speculate that it is one of the top targets on the web for organised Hasbara "advocacy" of the GIYUS, Megaphone, JIDF etc variety. Long standing commentators often complain about the change there, and about the moderation policy.

      I cannot comment there anymore as I am "pre-moderated". I think it was for suggesting that some "pro-israel" commentators were being organised and sent from the aforementioned advocacy organisations and pasting links to those organisations. At least those were the comments that were deleted before I got banned.

  • Did Israel provoke rockets from Gaza to pressure Palestinians to back off UN bid?
    • Seafoid, I'd just like to let you know that I find the black humour in the imagery of your comments a merciful relief during my compulsive efforts to keep abreast of the seemingly endless and grim litany of crimes committed on the part of Israel. It is all so horrifying and needless, and your comments illuminate this in a very eloquent way. Thanks

  • Downing Street to White House: 'UK would be in breach of international law if it facilitated pre-emptive strike on Iran'
    • About bloody time...
      Israel and the US grow ever closer together - the US and the UK grow apart.
      What was that about "closest allies" again?

  • Bedtime for Bibi? He's running neck-in-neck with Obama among FL Jews
    • Escape Velocity, comments like yours just prove what a delusionary bubble "pro-Israel" consciousness is. You haven't got the faintest idea about europe (apart from your wish to be thought of as Europeans - remind me why Israeli teams play in the euro leagues and Israel is in the Eurovision song contest again?)

      The likelihood of Europe following down the Israeli path of myopic racism and paranoid nationalism is slim to none - pan-european open borders being a large contributor to this.

  • Iraq/Iran is 'feverishly working to develop atomic weapons' -- Netanyahu 2012 echoes Netanyahu 2002
  • Walt, Munayyer, and Mearsheimer offer one state scenarios, and my response
    • Ha ha, well with the way Israel and Israelis are increasingly viewed that sounds like a good approach to ensure an empty guest house and a swift return home. Anyone who has travelled extensively knows that Israelis have a pretty terrible reputation as arrogant and boorish (although I can't really talk because I'm from the UK - hah!).

      When I lived in Brighton we encountered a group on the beach who were smashing up the fishermans store sheds to make a fire. Me and a mate (who coincidentally had been on a kibbutz) went over to politely tell them that the sheds belonged to someone and they shouldn't do that. They were Israelis and got right up in our faces, basically offering us out for a fight. What they hadn't realised was that we were with a group of 15, when our (more aggressive) mates came and backed us up they soon came over all contrite and left. That was one of the 1st experiences that caused me to question my previous impression of Israel and Israelis. They were so fucking obnoxious, especially to my friend who had tried to use his kibbutz experience as a peace gesture to them, and then such cowards once it was them who were outnumbered...

  • Change of plan
  • 'NYT' responds to Netanyahu: 'Israelis misled and bullied US' before Sabra and Shatila too
    • I think the verbatim transcripts being discussed are available to read at the NYT.
      link to nytimes.com

      They actually are quite infuriating to read - the Israelis come across as complete spoiled brats, rude and arrogant to boot.

      I'm not American but I'd wager that if the proverbial "Joe Six-Pack" were to be regularly exposed to this as the actual state of relations between Israel and the USA (behind the curtain) - Israel would be looking for a new patron pretty soon...

  • Breaking the Silence report details soldiers humiliating and torturing Palestinian children and using them as human shields
    • Around 2003-5 suicide was the leading cause of death in the IDF, it fell a little after special programs were put in place to combat the trend, it is now rising again.

      "Half of the 66 non-combat soldiers who died during their service in 2005 committed suicide. Sixteen soldiers were killed in traffic accidents while on leave, nine died of illness, six died during operations and two died under what were identified as other circumstances."

      link to ifamericansknew.org

      link to haaretz.com

      link to ynetnews.com

  • Timeline: Attempts to censor students and faculty who stand up for human rights on UC campuses
    • Oh and by the way Winnica - using the wellbeing of Israeli citizens as a marker of how well things are going is probably not a winning tactic when occurrences of self-immolation in protest at how bad social conditions are have recently made headline news around the world...

      Just sayin...

    • "The well-being of nations isn’t defined by popularity polls, but by hard facts such as economics, trade, the full gamut of diplomatic relations; and by the well-being of their citizens."

      So basically you are saying although Israel is one of the most negatively viewed countries on earth, that it doesn't really matter because it has these factors in its favour:

      Economics/Trade: utterly dependent on Europe and the US and one US veto away from sanctions and complete meltdown.

      Diplomatic Relations: ruined with many previous allies (e.g. Turkey), strained and going against public opinion with most of the EU, disastrous with almost all of the developing world. Good with the US but how long can AIPAC et al hold the fort?

      Wellbeing of citizens: One of the worst income disparities in the developed world, rule of law and democratic institutions disintegrating, education system failing due to the ideological pressures of Zionism and Ultra-orthodox, quite possibly the most dangerous place in the world to live if one is Jewish.

      Is this really the best that you can do?

    • Winnica, over 24,000 people were surveyed in 22 countries. The overall trend is an increasingly negative perception of Israel around the world. Two African nations and the US - that's it in terms of good news. How long would you bet on the propaganda working in the US? As many have predicted when the tide turns it ain't going to be pretty, and the US veto is the only thing standing between you and sanctions and full on pariah status. Stick your head in the sand if you want. Tick tock tick tock...

    • Yeah right.

      Even with all this great news israel ranked behind only Iran and Pakistan as the country that is most negatively viewed.

      Oh well at least you're level with North Korea ;)

      link to timesofisrael.com

  • Should maps ad be censored at Chappaqua rr station? a newspaper asks
  • Palestine takes center stage at World Pride
    • This is why "Brand Israel" is doomed to failure. It only flies in the US and Israel - and it's precarious there now.

      The only way it can possibly work is in controlled environments - but then you are preaching to the converted.

      As soon as these ideas are put on the open market the result is often worse PR than just hunkering down in a cave in fortress Israel.

      It's just going to get worse and worse...

    • Ha ha. I was there - well done London.

      Obviously a hotbed of Anti-Semitism ;)

  • Soccer's tragic flaw made a farce of Euro Cup final
    • Hah. There used to be NO subs, Bert trautmann the German goal keeper who played for man city played the final 15 mins of the FA cup final with a BROKEN NECK after being injured in a collision. They don't make em like they used to...

  • Rebranding Israel
    • When you've bet the house on PR getting you out of jail free...

      But Eric Cantona and FIFA are calling you out as human-rights abusers link to 972mag.com

      Someone has f**ked up somewhere ;)

  • 'Palestine Place' comes to London, and the west will never be the same
  • Story of forced searches of travelers' emails goes viral
    • Ha ha. Yes it's like magic isn't it. Those pesky protestors, somehow always managing to "get themselves" killed by Israelis. I wonder how it happens...

  • Netanyahu involved in '60 Minutes' pushback; Official compares CBS story to a 'strategic terror attack' on Israeli diplomacy
  • The new landscape: big media cover former Palestinian P.M.'s obit for two-state solution
  • Marwan Barghouti calls for popular uprising for statehood. Israel puts him in solitary confinement
    • Yes but what does the world think of Nelson Mandela and what does the world think of the Apartheid regime now that it is gone. You should have a long hard think about that...

  • My spirit is American (a religious manifesto)
    • Hophmi, I think you have a serious bone to pick with Mssr's Gere and Clooney, seriously those guys are obsessed with Tibet and South Sudan and it's out of order. Someone should wise them up about Israel to stop their unfair and discriminatory focus!

    • "Most of world stood silent when 6 million Jews were killed in the Holocaust, so I don’t really give much weight to world opinion.

      Most of world does business with China, so I can’t say most of the world has much credibility when it comes to human rights."

      Russia lost 20 million people in WWII, China 10 million, many were killed by the Nazis who were not Jewish, I wouldn't exactly say the world stood by, other countries did have some problems of their own to deal with....

      It's pretty telling that within one comment you move from comparing Israel's democracy to the USA, to comparing Israel's human rights record to China... Anyway you're going in the right direction and at least you're in the ball-park now.

    • You've got to be joking. American democracy was formed when slavery was still common place around the world. When Israeli "democracy" was formed we had the universal declaration of human rights, and yet even with this example to look to Israel chose apartheid. Try again, to the rest of the world you're just a bit better than Iran and North Korea
      link to haaretz.com

  • JNF launches new 'bluewashing' website - PositivelyIsrael
    • Israel: making the world a better place

      Hasbara truly plumbs new depths of desperation.

      Can't they see that this is just like a red rag to a bull for "culture jammer" types.

      Every poster for Israel that I see on the tube in London is defaced, it's not because London is full of anti-Semites, it's because a large proportion of the public are sick to the back teeth of Israel's governments and their constant fucking lies.

  • Scott Brown tries to score points on Elizabeth Warren by calling on Harvard to cancel One State conference this weekend
    • You haven't understood it. Obviously some Jews support war with Iran, they're all over the MSM and they're members of aipac. "Jews" as a homogenous, monolithic bloc is what is referred to here. You are either a pedant, or you lack comprehension skills.

  • Surprise-- courageous Elizabeth Warren is craven on Israel lobby
    • dms - Here you go, link to tibettruth.com

      You won't get any joy from the one-track-minders on this website - god knows I've tried

      But pop on over to tibet truth - they might be prepared to step out of their China-focused ghetto and look seriously at what is going on in Israel/Palestine.

  • PennBDS still being smeared two weeks after student conference
    • "the movement is growing"

      Last night on BBC4 I watched the last episode of this documentary series about the fight against apartheid in South Africa.

      link to clarityfilms.org

      I'm not sure how you would get to watch it in the US but I can't recommend it highly enough.

      Reading everyday about the awful reality in Palestine I sometimes feel extremely pessimistic. After watching this series I had a momentary burst of extreme optimism!

      There are many parallels to the contemporary struggle of the Palestinians in this series and I'm convinced they are not by accident. It feels like one of those cases where you use one example which is currently acceptable in the discourse to speak of another that is currently taboo.

      Check it out people, it's inspiring.

  • Israeli spokesman Mark Regev grilled on CNN International over Khader Adnan

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