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  • Trump's claim of 9/11 celebration in New Jersey is based on arrest of 5 'laughing' Israelis
    • Appears to be a little more complicated than that: link to

      Scroll down to the subhead Why Israel wants Assad out.

    • David, how do you think his daughter's orthodox Jewish religion (adopted) figures into this? Ironic that it was her husband who fired Phil from The New York Observer for not being Zionist enough. Her husband applied to Harvard and couldn't get in because he wasn't smart enough, until Daddy made a donation . . . that was before Daddy went to jail for four years.

    • BTW, on the day of--September 11, 2001--I heard the Israeli NJ arrest report on TV where I live. This has never been in dispute as far as I am concerned.

      And it has been included in Paul Thompson's 911 timeline since Day One: Complete 911 Timeline - History Commons

    • I’ve heard about the Israeli movers’ story down through the years and never been very interested in it, it’s in s being in a gray zone of unproveable assertions.

      Unprovable assertions?

      Grant Smith secured the truth of the matter with a FOIA from the FBI. He published them, and a rebuttal to the Trump claim on, on November 24, 2015.

      "Joyous Celebration" during 9/11 World Trade Center Attack

      "...five (5) Israeli nationals, detained in conjunction with the TWINBOMB investigation, had videotaped the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center and may have possessed foreknowledge of the same..."
      link to

      A Youtube compilation of news reports on September 11, 2001 including the woman who first saw the men beneath her apartment building celebrating the downing of the WTC thinking they were 'Middle Eastern' (at 4:12), and the East Rutherford NJ cop, Scott deCarlo, (at 4:31) who arrested the Israelis on the turnpike. Don't miss minute 5:00. These are the returning Israelis explaining on Israeli TV months later, and after they were released from a Brooklyn jail and whisked home, that they had gone to NYC "to document the event":

      You should note that the FBI's May 3, 2012, 70-page file copy of Wayne Madsen report on "The Israeli Art Students and Movers" (in Grant Smith's FOIA listing) contains a stunning list of names, identities, and addresses of Israelis involved in spying on the US.

      Smith's FBI document haul total nearly 400 pages of provable "assertions."

      Did Trump inadvertently open a hornet's nest?

  • Hillary Clinton equates ISIS and Hamas
  • The way for Americans to take on the Islamic state is to end support for Jewish nationalism
    • Phil,

      Particularly liked this piece.

      Apropos this:

      Because of the inward self-governing structure of the Jewish community, anyone who says that apartheid is apartheid is a heretic who must be excommunicated; but even if you conclude that it has all the elements of apartheid, as Peter Beinart told Rabbi Sharon Brous in a Los Angeles synagogue last week, well you must support it, you must not boycott it, you must describe it as a democracy.

      Commenter David Habukkuk on Colonel Lang's site had a particularly clear-headed insight in a thread (about Baratz) last week. He dings that two-tongued Beinart.

      A few observations. A few days back, Philip Weiss had an entry on his 'Mondoweiss' blog, entitled 'Why I am a Zionist.' Of course, the point of his discussion is that Weiss is not a Zionist: what he was doing was reviewing a series of explanations by influential American Jews of why they are Zionists, and what precisely they saw that commitment as entailing.

      (See link to )

      Reading it, I felt as though I was passing behind a row of ostriches, all with their plumage raised towards the sky, and their eyes and ears firmly buried underground.

      An example. The 'liberal Zionist' Peter Beinart wrote:

      'Is my view shaped by the fact that as a Jew I'm attached to the idea that in a post-Holocaust world, there should be one state on earth devoted to Jewish self protection and Jewish self-expression? Yes. I plead guilty. I'm not a pure universalist.'

      I read this with utter amazement. Is this man such an over-educated ass that he cannot grasp that – precisely because of the truths you are telling – such danger there is to Jews outside Israel in today's world lies primarily in the fact that people may come to believe that what that country has become is the 'self-expression' of some kind of authentic Jewish identity?

  • Video: Israeli military tells Palestinian refugee camp, 'We will gas you until you die'
    • @LYSIAS,

      See what happens when you skate from memory? Page numbers wrong and mixing up the ref books

      Re: your . . . .
      Skimming through Hitler’s Second Book, I cannot find the passage about Zyklon B and Mexicans, not even in the discussion of Jews at the end of Chapter 16. I did several word searches, but they produced no relevant hits.

      Unless I can be directed to the passage in question, I will assume that the presence of such a statement in the Second Book is a myth.

      By the way, the Second Book was written in 1928, not 1924.

      I had to wait until I got home.

      The reference was in Ringside Seat to a Revolution, An Underground Cultural History Of El Paso And Juárez: 1893-1923 by David Dorado Romo, Cinco Puntos Press, El Paso, Texas, Pgs 240-243.

      Adolph Hitler, praising the U.S. Immigration Act of 1924 in Gerhard Weinberg’s edition of Hitler’s Second Book: The Unpublished Sequel To Mein Kampf By Adolph Hitler, (New York: Enigma Books, 203) p.109

      Pages 241 and 242 of Romo’s book show photographic copies—and several photographs--of Dr. Gerhard Peters’ 1937 article for a German pest science journal, Anzeiger für Schädlinskunde that included two photos of the El Paso delousing chambers, praising them as showing how effective Zyklon B was for killing unwanted pests. Also included is an illustration of how the El Paso fumigation tunnel system using Zyklon B works for train cargo. Page 242 shows a 1939 ad, based on Dr. Peters’ work, for creating "Disinfection Camps” at every border that reads in all caps, “WE ARE CLOSING THE BORDERS TO THE IMMIGRATION OF HARMFUL PESTS,” and how the penetration of Zyklon B "penetrates through the entire freight train quickly.”

      There are a lot more references, but if you’re truly interested, you can order the book yourself. ;-)

    • Around pg 121 or 124 of Hitler's second book--I'm doing this from memory, so page number detail is poor--is Hitler's admission of where he got the idea for Zyklon B.

      It's generally agreed among historians that book 2 was really written by Hitler; Mein Kampf is debatable. Hitler certainly contributed to Mein Kampf, but some say not 100%.

      In book 2, Hitler says he got the idea for Zyklon B from the Americans. They were using it to fumigate Mexicans at the El Paso/Juarez crossover. I found a history of El Paso that covers the first quarter century (includes the Mexican Revolution), and lo and behold, the Hitler reference is in it. Plus photos of American law enforcement officials subjecting naked Mexican nationals to a supposed Zyklon B shower at the El Paso border. Hitler wrote about it in 1924, which certainly corresponds to when the photos were taken.

  • Struggling Israel supporter laments hardhearted Israelis and 'hegemony of big donors'
    • @pabelmont,

      Why don’t Israeli Jews see this as a model? As a possibility? Why do they prefer Bibi’s commandment/realization that they must live by the gun forever?

      Exactly. Moreover, why don't American Jews see this as a model?

  • 'Most-read' article at Washington Post calls Israel 'savage, unrepairable society'
    • Thanks, Danaa. Loved your “nice jews” of the “Tikun Olam” crowd description.

      And yeah, you have been pointing this out for a while. Only this time you're being more straight-forward, and direct.

  • Has Netanyahu's revisionism ended the use of the Holocaust as enabler of Israeli injustice toward Palestinians?
    • Buried in the outrage, though, is a deeper issue: Rather than the historical details of Holocaust history, how the Holocaust functions in relation to Palestine is the issue at hand."

      It's bigger than that: it's how some Jews (invariably pro-Israel, or Israeli) feel they can use the Holocaust to justify anything, and feel entitled to get away with it. And a bunch of even dumber Jews believe them, including the crew of trolls we get on here periodically.

      This Mufti tale came from Edwin Black, didn't it? Isn't this what he cooked up and wrote about to make up for The Transfer Agreement, which pissed off the keepers of the faith at the time (early 80s)?

  • Which nation spends more on its military: Iran or Israel?
  • A guide to the worst refugee crisis since WWII
    • these moronic pseudo neo-communists and Russian ultra-nationalists are the ones who’re solely doing any kind of persecuting, namely against the Roma living in the area and the Tatars as well, specifically the Crimean Tatars.

      Spare me. This is the same kind of ignorant comment as those who accuse Russia of illegally annexing Crimea in March, 2014. The Crimean Tatars, btw, happily voted to become part of Russia.

      FYI, when the Ukraine wrote its Constitution in 1992, it gave Crimea its effective independence within the Ukraine, and it granted Crimea the legal constitutional right to determine it’s own future and relationship with others, like Russia. This wasn’t a Russian edict, the Russians had nothing to do with it. The Ukrainians wrote it. They wrote that Crimea could decide who it was, what it wanted to be, and where it wanted to exist nationally, without any interference from Kyev. Crimea exercised that constitutional right in March 2014 via a referendum, and the US's uneducated national security advisers (Rice, Powell, and the Kid) called it an illegal act.

    • Ben's right about the refugee count, Kathleen. What's a million are the deaths. Actually, about 1.2 mill, although there's an "official" count out there that's way way lower.

      People forget that the Pentagon under Rumsfeld stopped recording the numbers in 2006. I can't remember all the details, and if our archives here went back to 2006, I could reference the Pentagon links. IIRC, their excuse was that the morgue counts weren't reliable, and they thought people were making numbers up, or some such peesashit excuse.

    • Ben this is the most comprehensive piece I have read on the refugee situation.

      I concur. Good job.

    • And another just recently:

      NY Jewish Congressman Slammed as ‘Traitor’ and ‘anti-Israel’ for Backing Iran Deal
      Orthodox politicians savage Democrat Jerrold Nadler, comparing him to rabbis who urged FDR to refuse sanctuary for Jews during the Holocaust.
      link to

    • The "crazies" did this. The neocons. They picked a war with Syria for no good reason. After decimating Iraq and Libya.

  • The Iran Deal is an African American achievement
  • The 'Pallywood' smear: Viral images of Palestinian boy's brutalization brings backlash
    • Are the soldiers being set up to star as villains in a “Pallywood” video?

      Proof that Jewish IQ took a hike in Israel?

      No matter. Expand the hashtag: #Pallywood-IDFstars.

  • Israeli nukes are finally newsworthy-- as US gov't both releases and gags info
    • Los Alamos National Laboratory nuclear analyst James Doyle wrote candidly about Israel’s nuclear weapons for a magazine in 2013. After a congressional staffer read the article, which had passed a classification review, it was referred to classification officials for a second review. Doyle’s pay was then cut, his home computer searched, and he was fired.

      Makes my blood boil.

    • Because they stole it from us.

  • Videos: 'Vanity Fair' story about anti-Semitic pogrom in Paris is falling apart
  • Beinart's fear of 'Israstine'
    • comparing him to rabbis who urged FDR to refuse sanctuary for Jews during the Holocaust.

      Finally, someone admits it.

  • Pittsburgh Jews say Obama will allow 'Second Holocaust' while Israel's ambassador openly lobbies Capitol Hill
    • the one in which liberal Zionists did not call out neoconservatives for promoting the Iraq war, and always blamed it on Bush and Rumsfeld and the Republicans

      No shit.

    • @ritzl,

      This isn’t just a Jewish discussion in a vacuum. It’s a Jewish discussion with non-Jews taking it all in.

      No kidding. I'm traveling out of the country and hearing this.

  • Non-Jew dares to announce position on Iran Deal
  • Roundtable on the Palestinian solidarity movement and Alison Weir
    • @ RobertHenryEller, ✔✔✔ +

    • What would we say of someone who appeared on a Zionist radio show and denounced nazis, antisemites and holocaust deniers without saying a word about Palestine?

      What are you talking about? Happens all the time. In fact, it's standard operating procedure. Unless it's to call Palestinians a bunch of animals or apes who deserve to be pushed in to the sea.

      As for the Bolsheviks, I refer you all again to Sever Plocker's 2006 article in Ynet News: Stain's Jews—We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish. link to

    • @Danaa, I agree, and JVP’s Weir action falls under this.( I, unlike annie, was repulsed by JVP’s Rabbi Alissa Wise’s hauteur and comments in Vancouver, her condescending victim crap, as reported by Gilad Atzmon.)

      Therefore, I have maintained for some time now, that -groups that profess to speak – as Jews – to thereby garner “legitimacy”, are in fact unqualified to take the lead role in the struggle FOR Palestinian rights.

      In addition, Danaa, too bad Americans aren't able to read honest translations of what Israelis say about Americans, Jewish or otherwise, on websites and FB, etc. (I have an Israeli acquaintance who regales me every 12 months or so. Sabras are frank when you ask them to be, and I like frank.)

      There was a Twitter site: "Shit My Father Says" that was entertaining and became highly successful. There should be one: "Shit Israelis Say." Since, as you note, Hebrew has 1/20 the vocabulary of English, the language as directly translated doesn't have the capacity for certain nuances of thought. Therefore, certain levels of thinking are not possible in the national behavior nor its thought patterns. it’s functionally medieval, and vulgar (commonplace, lacking refinement). No wonder they’re drawn towards Spartanism.

      The Freiers’* Club (aka the Congressional coterie) who make the pilgrimage to Tel Aviv for their annual summer Israeli suppositories would be hoisted on their own petards with the revelation of what Israelis really think of Americans, Jewish or otherwise.
      * For newbies here, Freier is the Israeli word for “sucker.” So it’s not a typo, it’s not Friars’ Club.

    • Stephen, you can't change the channel when it's on all the channels.

    • Didn't the Methodist and Episcopal Churches write a letter to Congress in October 2011 about the issue? Or was it the Presbyterians? I thought they were organized long before JVP took hold.

    • W.Jones,

      The downside that Atzmon is pointing to is that if your organization happens to be identified and arranged around the conquering nation’s group, then there is a risk that you could have a bias in favor of them. JVP for example said that the reason it delayed recognizing BDS until this January was because it was toxic in its community.

      Brilliant point, and it matches this by PeaceThroughJustice:

      What first brought me to this whole field was the realization, back in 2001, that the media was witholding the motivation of the 9/11 bombers from the American public. It was known, there was no debate about it, but we were just flatly denied the opportunity to talk about it. That struck me as a huge injustice.

      In fact, PeaceThroughJustice's entire post August 17, 2015, 5:22 pm is on the mark. Many forget that the press, the media, is supposed to be the Fourth Estate (after the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial "estates") and it's charter is to report on the three other estates to inform the people . . . who are hard at work going to work sometimes with two or three jobs, attending Little Leagues, and feeding their families, so they have no time to do the digging the Fourth estate is charged with doing. The Fourth Estate's job isn't to protect a client state, or their de facto representatives in the US.

    • @Mooser and Citizen: ✔✔✔

    • @Preston Enright August 16, 2015, 5:48 pm, writes:

      they could write a letter critical of Weir and her allies such as Atzmon and Blankfort (who routinely attempt to hurt activists and organizations

      and then you link to a youtoobie to prove your point. It doesn't.

      This is laughable:

      “The Walt & Mearsheimer (and Weir’s and Blankfort’s) thesis is profoundly flawed. The notion of a client state seizing control of the military and foreign policy apparatus of an empire has no remote analogue in human history.” – Bill Weinberg

      As the video shown in MW's recent article (Iraq) and Israel's public behavior (not to mention its ambassador) over the Iran Deal show, this quisling client state is doing precisely what Weinberg claims has "no remote analogue in human history." They're doing it right now, sweetpea. And seeking to undermine US status in the world and destroy her from within. (Weinberg's ww4report is all 'huff and puff and blow your house down'. He's not in Mario Menéndez or Al Giordano's league, IMHO, who actually report from the area.)

    • @jhitchcock,

      But I would suggest that in this case, a good parallel would be activists willing to work with and talk to Zionists for strategic reasons

      Actually, I don't think so; that's FAR too selective. Besides, what are Zionists going to do about the I/P problem except talk about it for another 10 years? It's the "tell me more about mah eyes" syndrome that causes Zionists to elbow themselves into every issue with their anti-semitism charges, trying to restore 1938 glory, and everyone is getting really really really fed up with it.

      Lotsa and lotsa white supremacist groups are pro-Israel, some rabidly so, at least on the surface. It seems to go with FOX News territory if you're a big-time FOX supporter. Ditto the Christian Evangelicals (except for lovely people like Rich and Betsy who have commented here over the years), Dispensationalists, etcetera, etcetera.

      You’re probably too young to know or remember, but Menachem Begin and Yitzak Shamir started the whole Evangelical/Religious Right/Jewish cock-up in the late 70s when Begin called Jerry Falwell and said our religions agree on nothing but we both hate homosexuality, so let's get rid of that together. Falwell fell for the flattery. They were going to get rid the US of homosexuality. Falwell never stopped to ask and declare, What business is it of yours, Begin? Clean up your own backyard.

      Then Begin very cleverly would not talk to newly-elected Reagan except through Falwell (and occasionally Robertson, I think) and that's how Begin created/started voting support for Israel’s issues throughout the south. The US 1985 trade agreement with Israel—the first US one—which screwed American businesses, and gave Israel enormous benefits with no reciprocity, would never have been possible without the Religious Right support softening the blow. Falwell loved the direct White House access—he had his own WH phone, as did the later married Colorado pastor [ed.- Ted Haggard] who got caught having rough anal sex with his exercise teacher--and Falwell's accruing power.

      So Weir is walking into the belly of the beast. If the Evangelical and Baptist churches go the way of the Presbyterian, Methodist, and United churches in decrying what is being done to Palestinians with US support, then it’s game over for those medieval right-wingers and murderous settler Brooklynites in Israel who think they can get away with what they are doing in Gaza, which is a horror. In fact, real anti-semitism.

      Who is willing to go on the Christian Right/White Supremacist television and radio shows here and tell them it is even an issue? You?

    • 3. You can’t allow yourself to be interviewed on the radio by extremists and racists. Simply by appearing on the air with them, you tend to validate their ideas.

      What?!? No, you don't. If that were true, then why isn't the opposite true as well?

    • @mtorres, great post.

      What I am about to write is from memory, faulty memory, and I don't have the time to verify my facts. In chapter three of historian Charles Payne's marvelous 1998 (?) book I've Got the Light of Freedom about the civil rights movement, he describes the work that Ella Baker did.

      Baker was the real engine behind the civil rights movement. She was doing it before MLK was born, and organizing before Alinsky got the idea, btw. MLK gets all the glory for his oratory and Coretta King has worked diligently to burnish his legend since he died. Mousa Abu Maria and Bekah Wolf (co-founders of the Palestine Solidarity Project) wrote a wonderful piece on Baker here at MW in 2010: The Lost Lesson of the Civil Rights Movement.

      Payne's book is interviews with civil rights leaders about what they did and what they remember. In his book, and here is where my faulty memory may apply, a couple of people describe how Baker was excoriated—that's isn't le mot juste—for hobnobbing with the enemy, rich white women in fur coats who were married to the titans responsible for, and maintaining, the white status quo.

      Baker scoffed it off, and sneered at the notion that she was not allowed to talk to the people responsible for diminishing black lives. She called it 'building a bridge'. And she insisted that it be done without embarrassing the white matrons whose knowledge of black lives was nil. Her point was opening a dialogue.

      Vilkomerson, et al, would do well to study her approach. At the very least, read Mousa Abu Maria and Bekah Wolf's take on Baker, they might learn something. Weir isn't preaching to the choir, she's working in enemy territory, as mtorres so eloquently points out.

  • Netanyahu for president? He's been a citizen-- twice!
  • It's not bigoted to call out the Israel lobby over Iran Deal
  • Schumer defection raises fears about firewall on Jewish support for Iran Deal
  • Shocker: 'NYT' runs front page press release for AIPAC warning Obama to cool his jets
    • "Murmuring about “money” and “lobbying” and “foreign interests” who seek to drag America into war is a direct attempt to play the dual-loyalty card."

      Tough. That's what they're doing. The ONLY country in the world objecting to this deal is Israel. Their PM has appeared before Congress and the UN twice, and American Jewish lobbies are actively taking up the Israeli PM's tone and request.

    • How many Jews in Congress other than Sander Levin support the Iran deal? Name them.

  • University of Illinois Chancellor steps down as judge upholds Salaita lawsuit against school on 1st amendment grounds
  • Iran Deal Latest: AIPAC lies and, in a first, Schumer runs from the cameras
  • Ideology behind Jewish terrorism is 'official business' of Israeli government -- Avishai and Blumenthal
  • Obama tells Americans it is 'abrogation of my constitutional duty' to defer to Israel on Iran Deal
    • @hophmi,

      Yep, but they won’t be able to do a dime’s worth of business if they can’t access US banks. Europeans are not going to give up doing business with the United States to do business with Iran.

      What an idiotic statement. You haven't heard of the Euro? The Federal Reserve doesn't control the Euro, and EU savings aren't all parked at the Federal Reserve. A cursory look at foreign-owned US treasury securities could tell you that in a heartbeat.

      Don't forget that if other countries in the world don't want to hold their net savings in USD, the USD is dead as a reserve currency. Gone.

      EDIT: We get away with murder being the reserve currency (as a federal government). We get to buy their stuff for the cost of a keystroke, oil included. Once our reserve currency status is gone, we'll have to hold foreign currencies to purchase foreign goods. That's a real cost to us.

    • Gee, these guys have taken longer to read the Iran deal (which was FAR FAR shorter in pages) than they took to read the Patriot Act.

  • Reps Deutch, Lowey, and Israel choose Netanyahu over Obama-- and who will bring down the hammer for the Iran Deal?
  • Leading US Jewish group opposes Iran deal, citing 'baseless hatred' of Jerusalem temple destruction 2000 years ago
    • For the rest of his life he [Netanyahu Père] despised what he described as the lily-livered response of the liberal Jewish leadership, especially Reform Rabbi Stephen Wise, who kowtowed to Roosevelt to preserve his privileged position and thus aided and abetted the destruction of European Jewry.

      No wonder Netanyahu Fils has the same loofah brain as his father.

      When does this horseshit myth end? Rabbi Wise was in on Dr. Chaim Weizmann's concerted plea not to have Jewish refugees go to the US and Canada. Wise was instrumental, as Co-Chair of the American Zionist Emergency Council, in making sure that Jews were turned away. Wise made the plea to Roosevelt not to help. They wanted the Jews to go to Palestine, and even then, would only accept about 1,000,000 out of the 4 million seeking refuge. See Hostage's page: I used the search words STEPHEN WISE.
      link to

      The Jewish Agency was also instrumental in making sure that undesirable Jews were eradicated (see Hostage's page above).

      “If I am asked, “Could you give from the UJA moneys to rescue Jews, ‘I say, NO! and I say again NO!”
      Izaak Greenbaum, head of Jewish Agency Rescue Committee, February 18, 1943 to the Zionist Executive Council.

      From: Jews Against Zionism

      Commenter Hostage has peppered this board with documented proof of that.

    • "If he is the US would be left isolated in the world and with egg all over its face."

      That's a polite way of putting it. The deal passed in the UN Security Council on July 20th "unanimously." So that means Great Britain, France, Germany, Russia, China, and the US voted for the deal. For the US to renege now would be as devastating as if the US reneged on the SALT Treaty during Reagan's time.

      Egg all over its face?

      How about laughingstock? How about third-world country? How about shit for brains?

      I just watched Nyet n' Yahoo on CNN. How dare he presume to address the American people and argue against their national security interests.

      David Harris-Gershon's tweet will mean nothing if they squirrel this deal. Jews have no problem calling 7 billion "goyim" without distinction or characterization, and get away with it. The same favor will be visited upon the Jews regardless of any protestations that they supported the U.S. and their president once the consequences of backing out of this deal become apparent globally. It will not be a pretty sight.

  • Inside a CUFI Summit: Christian Zionists dance the hora and prepare for end times in Washington DC
    • God, it's painful to read their virtual reality. I'm visiting relatives right now who hold the same views.

      But the article is a keeper, Ben, for when I see the crack in their darkness.

  • It's time for American Jews to recognize they have been duped
    • Avigail, do more of these.

    • Real Jews obey the Ten Commandments. All of them.

      Just soared from there, RHE.

    • the positive social experiences they had in the proximity to a flag of Israel

      Sounds kinky.

    • @Bornajoo,

      OT. Re: Bob Dylan, you might enjoy the documentary "Searching for Sugar Man." It's on Netflix, and it's wonderful. I watched it twice. The Chairman of Motown Records called Sugar Man (Rodriguez) one of the five greatest artists he ever worked with, and put him above Dylan. The story is really crazy, with unbelievable twists, but heartening in the end. No one in the US knows who he is, but he sold more records in South Africa for 25 years than Elvis Presley and The Beatles combined. And Rodriguez never knew it until just before the turn of the 21st C.

    • @Avigail,

      This fellow Jew agrees with you. It should interest you. His bonafides are at the top of the hour. it is more than the title. Feb., 2015.
      "Jeff Gates - How the Israel Lobby Took Control of U.S. Foreign Policy and Public Opinion"
      link to

  • Curtis Sliwa says opposition to Iran deal needs more 'righteous gentiles'
    • THANK YOU, BOO. He was past his due date over 25 years ago. Is he still riding around pretending to know what's going on in his red Che Guevera hat? Jesus, he's a 70-year-old in a girdle still thinking he can hook.

  • 'If we don't take out Iran,' it will reenact the Holocaust in US and Israel -- Steven Emerson to Times Square rally
    • Keith, Escobar is correct.

      “The EU, under Washington’s thumb, ignored him.”

      As for this,

      Even though you have expressed the opinion that global warming is a hoax

      Please use my archives to show where I've stated that it's a hoax. I, like any sentient being, would want to know if we're going to freeze or fry. I am, by nature, however, circumspect. I want scientific proof of it, not news releases mangled according to the perceptions of a PR office. Let me assure you, I probably read more source scientific papers on any given day than you do.

      The satellite records since 1979, what is normally called the historical record these days, do not show a "serious threat to life." If I am mistaken, please enlighten me. As a matter of fact, I am willing to go out on a limb and state that by 2018 we will see the PDO and AMO both negative. We will be in the beginning of a global cooling cycle that will have grave economic consequences for the world. Just last week, the Royal Astronomical Society printed this in Science Daily. “Solar activity predicted to fall 60% in 2030s, to 'mini ice age' levels: Sun driven by double dynamo.” So you are behind the eight-ball.

      As for this, as well

      No, MRW, the planet has not been cooling since 1998.

      That's where you are mistaken (and please don't bring up the recent controversial Karl, et al report on how NOAA adjusted the weather temps for the first half of the 20th C to make the last half seem warmer. Unacceptable).

      Since I know you are not going to bother reading the link anyway, I will simply link to Dr. Judith Curry's report on the IPCC's establishment of "the hiatus" since 1998 for anyone else who is interested here. Curry referenced the most recent IPCC AR5 WGI report. Curry is the former chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology--one of the most highly respected climate science departments in the world-- and a climatologist. You don't have her credentials, knowledge, or gravitas.
      link to

    • Wow, Keith, Escobar's reporting went right over your head. You sound like the arrogant British pundits in the 1930s who sneered at a possible US power emerging.

      Years ago, Vladimir Putin suggested that there could be a “Greater Europe” stretching from Lisbon, Portugal, on the Atlantic to the Russian city of Vladivostok on the Pacific. The EU, under Washington’s thumb, ignored him.

      One of the great strategic mistakes the Bush admin, and subsequent Obama admin, ever made.

      True that at present the daily trading in USD treasury securities constitute 60% of the world's activity. But the US as host violated the spirt of the reserve currency and used the fact that no USDs can legally leave the US banking system—all foreign banks with USD accounts are at the NY Federal Reserve—to violate the condition that the reserve currency government would not interfere in a sovereign nation's funds denominated in the reserve currency.

      Why would the “New Silk Road” be an environmental disaster? Do you think the Chinese incapable of huge public works?

    • That's a keeper of a quote.

    • ‘Oldest’ Koran fragments found in Birmingham University

      That doesn't surprise me. Monks and scribes made pilgrimages to Cordoba, Spain, the hub of Islamic science and culture, starting from the 9th up to 15th C's, bringing back translations of Islamic science, mathematics, astronomy, jurisprudence, and medicine to the Dark Ages of Europe.

      Robert Briffault catalogued all this in his 1919 book, The Making of Humanity. So did Joseph McCabe in 1936. Forget the name of his book, and not going to look it up.

      Modern operating rooms —today—still use Islamic medical tools. Some of their late-800-900 AD eye surgery techniques and tools are still in use today. Ditto algebra, calculus, and trig. They created the "scientific method," and double-entry accounting. The first certified economist was Ibn Khaldun, who was also the father of historiography, according to Alfred Toynbee who sung his praises, and also the father of the study of Social Sciences.

      Everyone flocked to the golden city of Cordoba (aka Cordova) to partake of its intellectual riches. Luca Pacioli, a great friend of Leonardo Da Vinci and often called the father of double-entry accounting—he wasn't—brought back troves of translated documents on flight, mathematics, and astronomy which he gave to Da Vinci and Copernicus, who came to Rome in the late 1400s. Copernicus used those docs to advance a heliocentric view of the world, but it was long known in Cordoba that Islamic scientists scoffed for centuries at the Catholic Ptolemaic view of the heavens.

      Briffault said that these translated documents are buried in churches, synagogues, and universities all over Europe, along with their personal records of their journeys to Cordoba, which is how we know of them.

    • Not to mention that he is a crook. Read the Religion Editor for The Tennessean Bob Smietana's investigative series uncovering Steve Emerson's Islamaphobia org, among others:
      Anti-Muslim crusaders make millions spreading fear

    • @Maximus Decimus Meridius,

      It’s just been unanimously approved by the EU AND by the UN. It is happening. . . . It says a lot about the mentality of certain USAmericans that they think that some red-necked senator can veto a deal reached together with the likes of China, Germany and the UK. . . . it is in no way binding on the other countries who have signed up to it.

      Not to mention that foreign policy is, per the Constitution, the exclusive purview of the HEAD OF STATE, and has nothing to do with Congress--the domestic government--unless the agreement is a treaty, in which case 2/3 of the Senate has to approve, not the House of Representatives. Ah, the great uneducated in this country, starting with the over-priced help on national broadcasting stations who lack the brains or knowledge to point this out.

      As I understand it, under the US Constitution, Congress cannot dictate to the Head of State (the President's exclusive 'hat') without a change to the Constitution disrupting the Separation of Powers.

      In fact, they would be thrilled – if Americans want to opt out

      America would be reduced to a toothless non-entity in the eyes of the world. Its presidency—because we are one of the few countries in which the head of government is also head of state—diminished to a laughing stock.

    • Iran has attacked no-one for more than a century

      More than that. Not since 1798.

  • Netanyahu bluffed an attack on Iran, and Jeffrey Goldberg helped out
  • If Americans support Iran deal, 56-37, what gives Israel the power to 'croak' it?
    • And all he got was that lousy cardboard bomb

      And that red-tipped cock-cover bomb, if I remember Katie's cartoon correctly.

    • Worth watching. Starts around 8 minutes in. Homepage. So if you're going to watch it, do so before the weekend. Date is 7/17/15.

      Zuckerman does not come off well. He sounds like what happens when you 'wake the up the grandparents from their afternoon nap and scare the shit out of them'.

    • Furthermore, I am not at all sure that most Americans are so opposed to the army getting involved in foreign wars as you make it sound.

      Ah so, Don Quixote.

    • @catalan,

      You're wrong when it involves more US human treasure killed or maimed on the battlefield for a threat that isn't our own.

      If the pro-Israeli crowd squirrel this deal and invoke another war in ME, the gloves will come off the non-Jewish Americans not allowed to enter this debate, not even allowed to be heard. Military personnel, for example, are now more than aware that the Iraq War was for Israel. The 'fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice, shame on you' rule applies.

      There's a reason why Jews were kicked out of many countries over the centuries, and it wasn't because of their religion. It was because, as a concentrated group (a highly educated and wealthy group, unlike those still living in shtetls), they pulled shit like this threatening the national interest of the ruler and its people. That's why England did it back in the 13th C. Spain in 1492 was a noticeable exception, but Queen Isabella only did it after kicking out the Muslims the decade before and because she wanted the Pope to move to Spain...and from her 'magnanimous' perspective, she gave them a choice of becoming Christian and sticking around.

      You write, "Jews barely register at the big level." They will if this gets shut down by these rabid Jewish groups and Israel. How long do you think these aforementioned groups that don't mention Israel will be able to keep it hidden in the media wake that follows?

      Furthermore, the outrage of losing this deal will be global. You think European newspapers won't be writing about this? Chinese and Russian papers? Spain and England? The US will become an international pariah, seen as absolutely untrustworthy in every foreign policy venture going forward. Disgraced. And the European companies chomping at the bit to do business with Iran right now are going to ignore the sanctions and say fuck you to the US.

      There are extreme consequences to this that you obviously cannot see. This is 2015. The consequences of Israel's actions are something it cannot control; consequences are always a temper of the times. This isn't 1945, or 1985. This world is changing drastically: gay marriage, Latinos the largest ethnic group in the US, Asians the fastest growing immigrant group. Those are votes, and the latter two groups do not want to send their kids to war; they are family-oriented cultures, killing their kids for nothing will be proudly dealt with at the voting booth no matter how much money Adelson throws at his paid minions. Romney learned that lesson in 2012.

      So think again. You haven't heard from the 97.8%. Yet.

  • ICC rules prosecutor to reconsider 'Mavi Marmara' investigation
  • Israel's real fear about the Iran deal: It puts pressure on the occupation
    • I mixed up the last two links in my reply to Hophmi about Iran (some cut-and-paste thing, and because both stories appear to be the same. I dunno'.)

      Here they are, for the record:

      "AP report: Iran's Jewish population finds new acceptance by officials"
      link to

      "In Iran, Mideast's largest Jewish population outside Israel finds new acceptance by officials"
      link to

    • @hophmi, July 20, 2015, 12:53 pm

      I don't know what hole you pull things out of, but you need to be corrected for the record.

      Jews in Iran are subject to sharia law, and unable to hold senior leadership positions.

      No. You're wrong. Iran’s sole Jewish lawmaker heads to UN with president.

      This is just conjecture on your part.

      The 20,000 figure may not be accurate either. According to 2012 census, there are around 8700 Jews left in Iran.

      Wrong again. An estimated 20,000 Jews in Iran. From November, 2014: AP report: Iran's Jewish population finds new acceptance by officials. "Those taking part in the recent Yazd pilgrimage to the tomb of a famed Jewish scholar, however, praised the Iranian government's new outreach. "We've gathered here to pray and celebrate our Jewishness," Kohan said. "We are proud that we freely practice our religion.”

      Making this up as you go along, automatic victimhood:

      It is beyond dispute that Jews in Iran are at best second-class citizens, though they fare much better than the Ba’hai, who are not recognized as a minority faith.

      From the same World Jewish Congress article (AP) I just linked to: "We were fearful in the 1980s. We were feeling the pressure. Now, we are not concerned anymore. We feel secure and enjoy freedoms," said Mahvash Kohan, a female Jewish pilgrim who came to Yazd from Shiraz. "In the past, Israel and others were providing incentives such as housing that lured some Jews. Now, it's not like that. And Iranian Jews have better living and working conditions in Iran. So, no one is willing to leave now."

    • Mahmoud Ahmadinejad held an entire conference dedicated to Holocaust denial. The regime hasn’t disavowed those views; they’ve affirmed them. So I think I’m on solid ground here when I say that the regime is antisemitic.

      No, you're not. You're out to lunch. Ahmadinejad DID NOT have a conference dedicated to Holocaust denial. He had a Holocaust conference, and guess who showed up? Ultra-Orthodox Rabbis from the US, Brooklyn specifically.

      So park it, bub. You think we're idiots or misinformed. STFU.

  • The people love the Iran deal -- to judge from 'NYT' letters
    • Since we are 18 trillion dollars in debt, I support suspending all 80 billion of foreign aid and applying the money towards the debt. Let’s leave humantarian assistance to individuals, since as a government we are, well, basically broke.

      What a crock. The US federal government is not $18 trillion in debt. The "National Debt" is also known as "Debt Held by the Public." When you're talking about US dollars, the creation of USD by the federal government is recorded (after the fact) on the double-entry ledger sheet on the right-hand-side in the Liabilities column because what they were created for is recorded on the left-hand-side in Assets. It is accounting shorthand to call liabilities "debt." But the federal government "debt" is not the same as non-federal government "debt," because the latter have to earn USD; they can't create them.

      That $18 trillion is in everyone's USD bank accounts.

      How can a government that issues its own currency go broke if individuals have dollars in their pocket? Where did those USD come from? Mars? Some factory in downtown China? You're not making any sense.

  • CT bus ads feature longstanding plan to 'abolish partition'
  • 'If you challenge Israel’s security, you challenge America’s security. Plain and simple' -- Clinton
    • Her husband caused the Great Recession of 2008 with his economic policies. In a bind, as President of the USA. she would call upon her husband for economic advice. That is reason enough, IMHO, not to elect her. She does not know the basics.

      She is not an independent thinker and she has zero understanding of how federal accounting works.

  • Oren's memoir reveals Israel's elite is hyper-sensitive to U.S. criticism
    • The connections to Eretz Yisrael were always there, part of the Jewish DNA, so to speak.. The modern political movement arose when conditions were ripe, and built on those historic and religious ties.

      Then why did Herzl first suggest taking over Uganda as the Jewish State in the late 1800s?

    • Simon said during the 60 Minutes show that Israel tried to prevent its airing.

    • hophmi,

      Simon reported on Christians in Gaza. I saw that 60 Minutes show.

    • I agree with Scott, James. I know I won't have time to read the book, and your account of it is fascinating. Thx.

  • Oren's criticism of US Jews earns his book five thumbs down: 'slinky,' 'self-aggrandizing,' 'twists reality'
    • Traditionally world Jewry outside of Israel was referred to as the Golus, or the Galut, meaning the exile.

      Since 1948, you mean. Because Israel didn't exist before then.

  • 'Jewish cow' is udderly superior to all other cows in the world, Netanyahu says
  • When will justice's 'thunderbolt' come for Palestine?
    • Primarily, following MLK, black people`s struggle for rights in the US was nonviolent.

      Wrong. MLK had nothing to do with it. It was Ella Baker, who was born 23 years before MLK and had already established non-violence. As Baker said, "The movement made Martin. Martin didn't make the movement."

      Coretta King, MLK's wife, created the MLK myth after he died. He was a great orator. He was neither the powerhouse nor the engine behind the civil rights movement, and neither were Jews, btw. It was Ella Baker, Septima Clark, and one other woman. Unbekownst to everyone, Rosa Parks' boss at the NAACP was Ella Baker. It was Baker who taught Parks to use nonviolent protest, and that led to the famous bus event. No one gives Baker any credit because she was a woman and women didn't get a smidgen of respect in the 50s.

  • 'Obama coffee' is black and weak -- racist tweet from wife of Israel's vice premier
  • 'Fresh Air' turns a critique of the occupation into an Oedipal issue
    • The problem, as I see it, is that Terry Gross has become tedious, and it is very difficult for longtime NPR listeners like me who remember the flap from Jewish donors in 2002/2003 over the Israeli/Palestine coverage to forget how NPR was cowed into shutting up.

      Sure there are some excellent interviews. Every once in a while; as much a symptom of the quality of the guest than anything else . But Gross does NOT have the snap and vigor of the two who interview on CBC's As It Happens, where they ask probing questions and let the interviewee answer fully, sometimes with stupendously controversial statements. The woman is better than the man. (This was the show that Barbara Frum starred in. What's her son's name? David?) Granted, the As It Happens team does news stories two or three days, sometimes a week, after the fact and probe the details. But sometimes they do living legends. Their skill is exemplary. And they're on air every day for three hours. Frank Mankiewicz copied CBC when he created NPR. He told me that directly in 1980, and his VP told me that in 1979.

      I used to like Gross. But now she talks down to her listeners. She thinks we don't read, or have as much info as she has. So when we get annoyed and write the NPR ombudsman and complain that they are committing wild sins of omission particularly in their IP coverage and we get ignored because they are afraid of their donors, then, yes, people biotch.

      I found the interview of Gross with some guy recently, whose name I don't remember, to be entirely engaging. But she has editorial shackles on her now than make her mundane. And yes, tedious.

  • Obscure Netanyahu minister emerges as unsung international hero in latest 'NYT' report
    • What a crock. I remember those days well. So Steinitz thinks he came up with the idea after the August 21 attacks? Like Lavrov and Putin hadn't mentioned that the UN could take possession of the CWs before then, and the G-20 wasn't in the works? As Reuters wrote at the time "The deaths occurred three days after the arrival of a 20-member United Nations chemical weapons inspection team that the Syrian government had blocked for months. And it unfolded a mere fifteen minute drive from where the U.N. team was staying."

      Remember that? But Steinetz knew that it was Assad who did it, and he and his team had proof.


      EDIT: Don't forget that the American people revolted starting Tuesday, August 27-31, and Obama had to announce on September 1 that he was throwing it to Congress. Israel/AIPAC did not want that because a full congressional vote would be precedent for an Iran attack.

    • Not to mention Lebensraum, Israel's modus operandi.

  • 'Washington Post' runs letters explaining why BDS is not anti-Semitic
  • It's the borders, stupid (forget the BDS hysteria)

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