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  • Reconstructionist Jewish site censors rabbi's essay because he supports BDS and one state
    • Krauss is right.

      It’s nice to see Jews there but in the end, if we construct a narrative where we have to wait for the communal organizations to turn we’re going to wait forever. And these fake-hype stories aren’t helping the movement in the right direction.

  • Adelson primary kicks off tonight with brags about 'mega-Jewish donors' role in 2016
  • The grave danger of derailing the Iran deal -- an interview with Chas Freeman
  • Israeli racism takes center stage at Manhattan JCC
  • Kristol frets that he walked into Obama's 'trap,' and Rubio says he'll demand Iran recognize 'Israel's right to exist'
    • The Pentagon’s $400 billion F-35 Joint Strike Fighter will eventually be able to operate inside those zones, too. But according to multiple sources within the Pentagon and defense industry, no warplane now operating can remain inside those well-defended areas for long.

      And that's just the S-300, the unit they sell to others. The Russians themselves are up to S-500.

      Our military knows we have nothing to match it. That kind of smarts (Russian) only comes from insisting that your scientists must study all the hard sciences to get a PhD in one of them.

  • 'Everything Hillary Clinton will do will always be for Israel' -- Saban warns the Republicans
    • ‘Everything Hillary Clinton will do will always be for Israel’

      I heard a Jewish guy who was legal counsel for the US Senate Finance Committee under Reagan describe Zionism as organized crime. I'm beginning to believe it.

  • Just like the Nazis, Iran 'plans to exterminate six million Jews' -- Netanyahu
    • Has Iran not threatened to annihilate the Jewish state repeatedly?

      Never. Not once.

      This BS started on October 25th, 2005.

      Ahmadinejad's exact words in Farsi were: "Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad."

      Anyone with an IQ over 100 and fairly well-read can recognize, without speaking Farsi, that he was quoting an Imam, that he was referring to a regime (rezhim-e), and that he was speaking about Jerusalem (qods), not Israel. He was talking about a government, not a people nor a nation state. In fact, he was quoting Khomeini talking about the regime occupying Jerusalem.

      Iran has not attacked another country for 300 years. Why would it start now? Why should anyone even entertain the verkahtah craziness you pro-Israeli loons keep insisting is the truth, when an average Joe can see through the delusions easily?

      Yet here you are using Phil as your dart-board once again for all the nutso stuff you can't seem to figure out on your own. After all these years, why?

  • No Palestinians need apply to program on 'Palestinian issue' at Center for American 'Progress'
  • Does Schumer have any idea how angry his constituents will be if he torpedoes his president on Iran?
    • Gareth Porter gives an explosive talk cataloging Israel's involvement since 2003 in falsifying documents implicating Iran in a nuclear weapon at last Friday's National Summit at the National Press Club, "The Israel Lobby: Is It Good for the US? Is It Good for Israel?" He says that El Baradei states it in his memoir, and Porter found a book written in Hebrew that says the Mossad made them and gave them to MEK, who passed them on.

      Starts at 2:38:00 minutes. Don't miss it.

    • I'm going to contact my senator on Monday and ask what's the formal way to object to Schumer becoming minority leader when I am not in Schumer's district.

  • Israel could reduce anti-Semitic violence by not calling itself the Jewish state, Finkelstein says
    • So what is the code? Why not share it with a dummy brother?

      Go to Shul.

    • My point about anti–Semitism (slightly different from Finkelstein’s) is that the key to fighting it is building bridges — the opposite of which necessarily increases alienation, prejudice and animosity. . . . What I am talking about is patiently and constantly fighting a central element of animosity against Jews, and trying to foster a climate of tolerance and understanding.

      Exactly.

    • Good for you, Shmuel.

    • Here is a question asked of Max Blumenthal at his 12/2/13 National Press Club talk on his book, Goliath: Life and Loathing in Greater Israel. It was specifically about the constitution and borders. Max responds with a description of a book he read in Israel wherein the author asked Ben Gurion about why no borders. Starts at 52 minutes. There is no constitution and no borders. Why is it a state under international law and not a "territory" or partition within another country? (As original intended, btw.)

      link to c-span.org

    • annie,

      OT. Watch this: link to youtube.com. Happened Friday.

    • Thanks, talknic,

      Then Finkelstein's claim that Israel is a state under international law is wrong. Because Israel does not have defined borders. Or is he talking about ththe borders? I doubt it, because he says IIRC that Israel should stick to the 1967 borders.

    • Great talk. just finished listening to it all.

    • (listening to the video now)
      Does a state under international law have to have definable borders? Or is a declaration of statehood sufficient?

    • @Phil,

      I don’t think that anyone has expressed that idea more clearly.

      Uhh. You haven't been reading the comments here over the years? ;-) This should read

      I don’t think that anyone Jewish has expressed that idea more clearly.

      @annie, great observation

      so the claim of an (from my notes) “explosion of anti semitic incidents” on american campuses, is (in my opinion) a campaign that was designed by think tanks. imho, there were clearly decisions made to promote this idea and to tackle the bds movement by attacking the movement itself (as racist) and turning jewish students into victims. i think that’s what’s happening here.

      we can see the beginnings (seeds) of this tactic back at UC berkeley divestment years ago (and continuing thru many divestment initiatives on campuses throught the US system ) by instructions to students to be emotional and talk about their ‘hurt feelings’.

      good one. EDIT: and, btw, this is getting to be soooo tedious. I care about their feelings almost as much as I care about mine.

  • White House 'trolls' Netanyahu by co-opting infamous UN cartoon to sell Iran deal
  • Rand Paul greeted by neocon opposition, in $1 million ad calling him 'dangerous'
    • You quoted the wrong section, Keith.

      In America, however, the colonists defied the Bank of England and issued their own paper scrip; and they thrived. When King George forbade that practice, the colonists rebelled.

      They won the Revolution but lost the power to create their own money supply, when they opted for gold rather than paper money as their official means of exchange. Gold was in limited supply and was controlled by the bankers, who surreptitiously expanded the money supply by issuing multiple banknotes against a limited supply of gold.

      This was the system euphemistically called “fractional reserve” banking, meaning only a fraction of the gold necessary to back the banks’ privately-issued notes was actually held in their vaults. These notes were lent at interest, putting citizens and the government in debt to bankers who created the notes with a printing press. It was something the government could have done itself debt-free, and the American colonies had done with great success until England went to war to stop them.

      President Abraham Lincoln revived the colonists’ paper money system when he issued the Treasury notes called “Greenbacks” that helped the Union win the Civil War. But Lincoln was assassinated, and the Greenback issues were discontinued.

      Fiat (paper) money was not restored until 1934. But we became 100% sovereign monetarily on August 15, 1971, courtesy of Nixon, greatest thing he ever did.

      But no one understands why.

    • I can do is look for that toupee line and can’t concentrate on what he’s saying

      Then discipline yourself.

  • Finkelstein on God and Dershowitz
    • finkelstein is a noted anti-semite and nazi lover

      Unlike soooo many who claim to be holocaust survivors or children of holocaust survivors, Finkelstein actually is.

      [Finkelstein's] mother, Maryla Husyt Finkelstein, grew up in Warsaw, Poland, survived the Warsaw Ghetto, the Majdanek concentration camp, and two slave labor camps. Her first husband died in the war.

      She considered the day of her liberation as the most horrible day of her life, as she realized that she was alone, her parents and siblings gone.

      Norman's father, Zacharias Finkelstein, was a survivor of both the Warsaw Ghetto and the Auschwitz concentration camp.

      The Simon Wiesenthal Center?

      Spare me. That looking-for-donation dollars Center from the dangerous-to-Jews-location Los Angeles fights such dangers as this: "Simon Wiesenthal Center Slams State-Funded Russia Today Television for Anti-Semitic Program; Demands Apology (VIDEO)"
      Finkelstein at 3:44 min
      link to algemeiner.com

      The stand alone youtube:

      You gotta' watch it.

  • Hurt by the Israel lobby, Obama kisses it goodbye
    • Does anyone know the process to elect the Minority Speaker? How do we stop Shumer?

    • Just read the Shumer piece on HuffPo.

      Shumer is a traitor to the United States of America. Period. Basta. Finito.

      I don't care about Shumer's Jewishness. He's a fucking traitor. Period.

      EDIT: Sorry, it was Politico:
      link to politico.com

      His DC office: Phone: (202) 224-6542
      NYC office: Phone: (212) 486-4430

      Add your voice.

    • don’t hold your breath to get the truth to Dick and Jane.

      The common folk, the ones who don't know who Edward Snowden is, or who the VP is, or where Ohio is, will know one thing eventually. It will trickle down. This deal means: We won't go to war with Iran.

    • @Citizen,

      Carter was punished for forcing Begin to make that deal at Camp David. It started with the campaign to make him a one-term president.

    • Correct, John O,

      And don't forget the Russian anti-missile and anti-aircraft missiles that Putin is supposed to be giving Iran the penultimate version of after, and because of, the US imposed sanctions. (I used to remember their names and their capabilities; had them at my fingertips.) We, the US, have nothing to compare with the latest Russian version, which it is not exporting at the moment to any country. These missiles will vaporize a US aircraft carrier three seconds after the Admiral sees it coming. Our military admits it has nothing like it.

  • Yarmouk camp reaches out to the international community for help against IS invasion
    • Thanks for that, Boomer. Thank god I ordered two. ;-) Lot of nerve to accuse the church of anti-semitism and anti-jewishness for selling the doc and dvd. What do they sell their fundraising plates for? 50Gs a pop?

    • annie, completely OT.

      Do you still have the link for the Presbyterian Church published presentation about the I/P conflict. It was a couple of years ago. Cost about $20 or $25. A really professional package.

      Thx.

    • Walid,

      From the NYT link to nytimes.com;

      Leader of Al Qaeda group in Iraq was fictional, U.S. military says
      By Michael R. Gordon
      Published: Wednesday, July 18, 2007

      BAGHDAD — For more than a year, the leader of one the most notorious insurgent groups in Iraq was said to be a mysterious Iraqi named Abdullah Rashid al-Baghdadi.

      As the titular head of the Islamic State in Iraq, an organization publicly backed by Al Qaeda, Baghdadi issued a steady stream of incendiary pronouncements. Despite claims by Iraqi officials that he had been killed in May, Baghdadi appeared to have persevered unscathed.

      On Wednesday, a senior American military spokesman provided a new explanation for Baghdadi's ability to escape attack: He never existed.

      Brigadier General Kevin Bergner, the chief American military spokesman, said the elusive Baghdadi was actually a fictional character whose audio-taped declarations were provided by an elderly actor named Abu Adullah al-Naima.

      And from Land Destroyer in January of this year:
      link to landdestroyer.blogspot.com

      US "Fighting"Terror Group with Fictional Leaders
      US claims to be waging war against "Islamic State" whose various "al-Baghdadi" leaders do not exist.

      January 29, 2015 (Tony Cartalucci - NEO) - In 2007, the New York Times revealed that long-vilified "Islamic State" leader Abdullah Rashid al-Baghdadi did not exist, and that the creation of this fictional character was a ruse to obfuscate the role of foreigners in the creation and perpetuation of "Al Qaeda in Iraq."
      [...]
      The admission by US military leaders, reported in the NYT, reveals that the so-called "Islamic State" was nothing more than an appendage of Al Qaeda - with Al Qaeda itself directly armed, funded, and backed by stalwart US allies, Saudi Arabia and Qatar. Despite the NYT and the Pentagon's admissions, the entire ruse has continued, on an exponential scale.

  • 'NYT' addresses pro-Israel donors' influence over Congress
  • DEAL!
    • Yubba-Dubba-doo, Barney!

    • Just listened to a live report on BBC with a participant from the Lausanne talks (an insider not in the news). The BBC reporter dutifully questioned how Netanyahu would react. The Lausanne participant to these talks dripped with derision while trying to remain diplomatic.

      I was unloading groceries and couldn't rewind. I just stared at the radio. I have never--I mean, not ever--heard a government official emote such disgust for an Israeli PM.

      My initial reaction? Someone needs to sit down with Netanyahu, and give him the same speech many are giving Mike Pence. These people are not living in our time.

    • Page: 97
    • I wish that this had been published last week, last month, last year, or 10 years ago

      It was. In 2007 English Israeli papers. Have a copy on other computer. It was the report of an Israeli security meeting.

    • [After the deal.]

      As I said... This is what ruled.

      Not Congress.

    • I spoke too soon. Read Justin Raimond's When War Comes We Know Who To Blame
      "Yes, Congress, I’m looking at you …" by Justin Raimondo, April 01, 2015.
      link to original.antiwar.com

      Yes, the President can lift some of the sanctions unilaterally, but not all of them. More importantly, the War Party has arranged for a way to get around a presidential waiver and scotch the deal before it is even reached in the form of legislation introduced by Republican Sen. Bob Corker and co-sponsored by 8 Senate Democrats.

      The "Bipartisan Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act of 2015" forbids the lifting of sanctions for 60 days after a deal is reached. So any deal would not be implemented without a vote in Congress. It also requires the President to submit the agreement to Congress for its approval within 5 days. [See article for links to sources.]

      His tag line:

      When the body bags come home, and the war comes home in the form of economic collapse – astronomical oil prices will hit us like a ton of bricks – we can always look at the names on the Cotton letter, and the roll call of Democrats who voted for Corker, and "thank" them in the only way they deserve to be thanked. [Link US Code on Treason.]

    • This is the standout comment:

      .@MaloneySuzanne [of Brookings]: The unity of the P5+1 is “remarkable” and “a-historical in many respects.” Congress doesn’t “appreciate” this

      P5+1 is in control, not Congress.

    • which suppresses the will of its own people, kills dissident, discriminates against minority faiths, and fund terrorism all over the world.

      So do we.

    • If they get a deal on or by June 30th, Congress will then be home for summer recess...or traveling to Israel.

    • You're right. It's not a treaty. By the constitutional separation of powers, the House and Senate can huff and puff all they want. The executive can write Agreements without any interference from Congress. Foreign affairs are the President's job.

      What Congress can do is hold up the easing of sanctions, but I don't know if the Office of the President can override it with the tools available to it.

  • Netanyahu partners with Jimmy Carter to bring 'Habitat for Humanity' to the West Bank
  • GOP rebrands for 2016: Welcome to the Republikud Party
  • The Jewish establishment has banned these four valiant Jews. Why?
    • Hats off to these four! Good for them. They're ambassadors who actually did the work, and I suspect this fact alone will have a profound effect on the students listening to them. (BTW, historical point. It was Ella Baker--the forgotten kingpin the civil rights movement--who created and organized SNCC, the Student Non Violent Coordinating Committee as well as the Freedom Riders and two other major groups. She's the real titan, not Martin Luther King. Just so ya' know and don't forget.)

    • Ben Gurion called Ariel Sharon a gangster in private conversations, according to my mentor who ate lunch with Ben Gurion four times a week for a year.

  • Video: Max Blumenthal on the ways Zionism exploits anti-Semitism
    • simply NO comparison to the islamophobic hate machine

      Exactly. I'm getting tired of it. Failure to recognize Islamic history is getting tedious. Jews don't have that scientific history; they were buried in shtetls for the most part. Neither do Christians, who stole most of Islamic Science as their own and were dullards who couldn't compute for centuries while they stole Islamic ideas, and have been pumping on Islamic fare for over 500 years.

      EDIT: Tell the truth.

    • w/her name (nada) well aware i probably didn’t use her name in the post.

      You did. It was here last name.

    • Excellent Storify.

  • Clinton and Cruz both betrayed Obama's foreign policy yesterday
    • But she had great stamina to have visted 112 countries.

      You would too if you had your own 767 and assistants to ferry you to the plane and carry your stuff onboard. ;-) She didn't have anything to keep her at home, did she? ;-)

      It give a whole new meaning to, "I want to eat Chinese tonight."

    • Four Seasons reservations for a year or so.

    • That's a good point, pabelmont.

    • I'm with just and Krauss based on my standard unofficial poll: the local deli. I was there for lunch last week, and the place was electric with Obama hatred and Netanyahu love. Granted the majority were older, but there were working age people as well. Bitching and moaning, Carrying on and on. Even the waiters chimed in. I felt like I was in a war zone.

  • Tipping point?
    • Hey, mods,

      This link doesn't work;

      It’s hard to imagine Maureen Dowd WRITING THIS COLUMN attacking “Republicans who want a loyalty oath on support for the Jewish state”

  • American Voices: What lies ahead for the rocky US/Israel relationship?
    • “We should support the only state in the Middle East that lets women drive tanks”

      OK.

      Syria's female tank drivers: Battalion of 800 women commandos in fierce clashes with rebels on the front-line in Damascus
      link to coloradonewsday.com

  • White House will go after AIPAC next -- Newsweek
    • Thanks, just.

    • Really despicable ads...however, one question is how much of this is Spencer and Geller trying to get European-style draconian hate laws passed here? Outlawing criticism of Israel? Think about it.

      Graffiti would be better.

    • Budget-strapped Israel?

      I thought the start-up nation with the greatest technical geniuses god ever put on this planet who run rings around anything the US can produce--more Nobel Prizes per capita than any country in the world!--and whose military products are the leaders of the world were selling their wares like hotcakes.

    • John Bolton also got the 2007 Israeli destruction of a supposed Syrian reactor wrong. Read.

      SYRIA'S SMOKING GUN
      by Trish Schuh
      Sept. 17, 2007

      "Trish Schuh is the only Western journalist to actually go to Deir al-Zur, the area where Israeli plans are said to have attacked a missile depot."

      After the invasion of Iraq, former US Air Force Colonel Sam Gardiner identified charges against Syria as one of 50 false news stories created by Israel and the White House to justify war. "Saddam's nuclear WMDs moved to Syria" was propaganda he said.
      .
      Several days ago, after the attack on Syria's "nuclear program", I spoke to western oil company officials in Deir Ez Zor. One technician told me they routinely monitor radiation as part of the refining process. They registered no heightened levels of nuclear residue in the area as there would have been if the Israelis had hit a North Korean atomic stockpile. Operations and technical foremen put it this way: "The nuclear claims against Syria are pure bullsh*t."
      .
      The Syrian smoking gun is the complete lack of any mushroom cloud.

  • CUFI Leader John Hagee confirms Christian Zionism is anti-Semitic
    • Standing with Israel was not written by Hagee. It was written by David Brog, a Jew, Executive Director of CUFI. Hague only wrote the foreword.

    • but i don’t see how believing the rapture will come and burn everyone to a crisp if they don’t believe in christ is anti semitic, per se.

      The Mormons believe you go to the planet Varoomph-doomph. I don't think they french-fry, though.

    • CUFI is run by a Jew, not Hagee: David Brog. Read Jews On First.
      link to jewsonfirst.org

      The rabbi who runs that site is one of the few truth tellers, imo.

    • the Reformation brought about religious freedom

      What a crock, Donald. The Islamists practiced religious freedom 800 years before the idea dawned on an ignorant Europe.

      It is you who is misinformed. Ditto JeffB. Badly educated. And Blumenthal is no better.

      EDIT: killing adherents of a certain religion is far more provocative and indicative of their own efforts to repel their own destruction. And who can blame them. Hirsi Ali is a phony who wants to sell books.

  • The liberal Zionist lament: Joe Klein and Jodi Rudoren try to explain away Israeli racism
    • Short form: Jews (or anyone) do not have the right to impose the ergodic axiom on mankind. Period.

  • American Jews are taking back their power from Israel
    • This oversensitivity is helping nobody.

      Precisely.

    • A generation from now people won’t believe that this even happened. It did happen.

      You’re naive if you think the disparaged goyim aren’t noticing,

      A warmongering prime minister sought to undermine a president’s peacemaking policy by coming to Congress at the invitation of Republicans to fight the president’s deal with Iran

      Good thing these bastards didn’t do it during the 80s. Can you imagine if the pro-Israel/pro-Russia group had convinced a bunch of hepped-up Democratic senators to write Gorbachev during Reagan’s SALT II talks and told him that Reagan would be out of office in two years and Congress could reverse everything they were doing?

      Someone in the Jewish community is smoking the wrong weed.

  • I want my country back
    • "It is fighting proxy wars all over the Middle East. That’s indisputable."

      So says the NYT. You've come full circle.

    • "You read something that doesn’t fit your extreme political perspective"

      Perhaps you're having a reading comprehension issue today. We're all accusing the NYT of this extreme lapse in judgment.

    • I remember a time when the NYT would never send a foreign correspondent with internal ties to a foreign location. It was unseemly. Same with Newsweek and the WSJ. Even though David Binder was the NYT correspondent in Yugoslavia and later Serbia for over 30 years, he was not wedded to that country through religion or family.

    • @Mooser

      ✔✔✔

    • I have got to write on of those monograph thingies on The Ziocaine Syndrome.

      Yeah, it's like Jewish diabetes. ;-)

    • What is it with these guys the moment they cross 60. They all get religious. He wasn't even alive during the war. Or before it. What's he whinging about 1938 for?

    • Phil, great piece.

      But it means your editorial slant here has to get a lot sharper, as in accusatory, focused, laser-sharp. Lethal. This piece is a good first start. Enough with the we-got-to-bring-the-community-around, slowly. You are the community. (Besides, the "community" obviously has the NYT.)

    • OT, but not really, because it's a graphic record of what Israel IS doing to Palestine.

      From the Guardian: Award-winner Heidi Levine's images of Gaza – in pictures

    • Scott Ritter wrote a great piece on HuffPo about this: Espionage, by Any Other Name, if you haven't already seen it.

  • Bill Maher justifies Netanyahu's racism by saying U.S. has done much worse
  • 'Do US Jews need a Jewish state for our safety?' debate begins in wake of Netanyahu victory
    • Yeah, what's he doing living in the US if he thinks the country can't protect him?

      Drama Queen.

      If he's worried about his daughter and progeny's future, he ought to be stopping Victoria Nuland and her POS warmongering husband from threatening the lives of all of us:
      "Top Russia Scholar Stephen Cohen: War between NATO and Russia a Real Possibility"
      link to russia-insider.com
      Scroll down and listen to the man.

    • Witness the suppression of the (poor: people-of-color) vote by Republicans in many states ... It’s current and it’s here!

      So is Islamophobia, courtesy of Jewish neocons.

  • A response to Michael Douglas
    • And that’s why Zio-supremacists have switched to using the new furphy of “Jew hatred”. It’s more visceral.

      At this stage in the public discourse in this country, tell me why “Jew hatred” is any worse than “Muslim hatred” or “Hispanic/Latino hatred” or “Black hatred?”

  • Netanyahu's honesty towards Palestinians casts unwelcome light on American Jewish leadership
  • Who can save Israel now?
  • Why I hope Netanyahu will be crushed tonight
    • One thing you can't deny: the future public discourse has changed here. Foxman/AIPAC/et al can't destroy national journalism careers for accusing Israel of apartheid or bad-faith negotiations.

    • Pixel, I read the Salon or Slate article about what he did with the TIFs. Man, he is so corrupt, but then is the local machinery that created that setup.

      EDIT: Emanuel has probably rented an x-ray machine that can read the mailed replies. (They were perfected two decades ago for military/intel use.) The only thing that will overwhelm the standard Chicago shenanigans is a massive voter turnout.

    • Even HuffPo's sub-headline screamed that apartheid is now official Israeli policy. First time ever.

    • the Arabs have come to understand what democracy is.

      That's rich since they introduced the concept in 9th century Spain to a feudal Europe.

    • And I would not call the killing sprees that Israel goes on every few years in Gaza wars.

      Exactly. They're field-testing new weaponry. Ideal, as you say, because the Gazans have no military.

    • Phil, how likely is it that Netanyahu won't be re-elected? That Herzog might win? What does your finger in the air say? (Don't forget that Israel has no-confidence motions. A PM can be out in three (?) months via a call for an election.)

  • The farewell party of the mezuzah-kissers
    • Actually, part of me wants Netanyahu to win after the NY Times finally admitted what it's known all along:

      "Under pressure on the eve of a surprisingly close election, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel on Monday doubled down on his appeal to right-wing voters, declaring definitively that if he was returned to office he would never establish a Palestinian state .

      The statement reversed Mr. Netanyahu’s endorsement of a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in a 2009 speech at Bar Ilan University, and fulfilled many world leaders’ suspicions that he was never really serious about peace negotiations. If he manages to eke out a fourth term, the new stance would further fray Mr. Netanyahu’s ruinous relationship with the Obama administration and heighten tension with European countries already frustrated with the stalled peace process."

      I want to watch the train wreck. Liberman brandishing his axe so he can behead Palestinians. Gotta see that splashed on TV here. I want to hear the rabid Israel-Firsters defend Netanyahu and his craziness. I want to hear Netanyahu being asked by Bob Schieffer if he lied about the Palestinian state, what about Iran? Was he lying about that as well?

      What's the Hebrew for Cry Wolf? In Latin letters. Maybe Freier Bibi is enough.

    • I liked the New Hampshire editorial that said something like this: Can you imagine how outraged the Republicans would have been if a bunch of "petty Democrats" had written to Gorbachev while Reagan was negotiating the nuclear talks and told Gorby he shouldn't trust Reagan and that Congress could undo everything once Reagan left office. (The editorial said it better than my paraphrasing here.)

  • Herzog and Netanyahu are likely to share power -- because Herzog won't share it with Arab List
    • This song . . . .

      ;-)

    • catalan,

      There's a big difference between macro and micro.

    • seafoid,

      You honestly think Israel would be going down the same path if the Christian Zios and American Jews withdrew their support? The Israelis are so assured of it now that they know they could behead Palestinians in the street and ram knives up pregnant Pal wombs and there wouldn't be one word of outrage or disgust from our government or media. There isn't a chance you change Israel from within.

      Israeli bad behavior is controlled and approved from the US.

    • Seafoid (I'm an enormous fan of your cast-of-mind)

      Herzog doesn't have to change Israel. It was plain to me in the talk I watched that he knows he can't. He has to change American Jews, and Fox News.

    • @Phil,

      You wrote:

      Herzog and Netanyahu are likely to share power — because Herzog won’t share it with Arab List

      I don't agree with you. IF he wins, he might. Are you willing to make a $0.25 bet?

      EDIT: Herzog's 12/2014 Saban Conference talk was remarkable for indicating the unpredictability of this man; not the consistency, the unpredictability. I was wrong about J Street; I thought they would be forward-thinking. I've been wrong about so many directions on this site so far. Still, I think Herzog would include the Arab List, or whatever it's called. Wanna' know why?

      He would have already won.

    • David Doppler,

      Herzog was grilled at the Saban Conference, by Haim Saban himself, about how his numbers didn’t look like they could add up, right – left, and he was fascinating to watch and listen to. ... [well worth the watch for those who don’t yet know him, as I didn’t,]

      I clicked on the Saban Conference link yesterday just to see what Herzog looked like and wound up watching the whole thing. Herzog is a breath of fresh air. The differences in intelligence, nuance, awareness, pragmatism, and plain political savvy between Netanyahu and Herzog is stunning. I came away thinking, Gee, I can go back to my regular televised life if this guy wins. Israel would be in good hands for the first time in decades.

      Edit: my last sentence sounds a little hyperbolic, but I still feel the same way today. I also realized that Herzog's biggest hurdle would be the Sabans and Adelsons directing his leadership from over here, and it was interesting to watch him handle Saban and his questions.

  • Netanyahu flails against int'l conspiracy, as liberal Zionists seek orange revolution against 'fading strongman'
    • God, he so looks like Hitler, it's hysterical. Especially at 00:45 sec in the first video. Was that intentional?

  • Barney Frank says Israel and AIPAC lobbied Congress to support Iraq war
    • Correct me if I am wrong, but there’s been a huge shift in public opinion among grassroots liberals on Israel in the last 10 years.

      Grassroots everything. The slandering of ordinary folk as anti-semites for complaining about Israel's destruction of Gaza in 2008/2009, and last summer, struck a nerve with the silenced and angered them. You're starting to see the consequences of it, no matter how much EastCoasters still claim that 80% of Americans in FlyByCountry are behind Israel. I've been writing for the past three or four years here about hearing it first advanced in tentative private conversations testing the waters, then real horror expressed at what they did last summer. Netanyahu's March 3 performance was a reminder.

      What people like Moline forget is that consequences are not something that the doer of an action can control. Someone can control his action, perhaps if he's lucky the result, but consequences of the result are always in society's time and place, and that cannot be controlled, only realized (or perceived if you are mentally adroit). For that you need a realist's eye to see how the result is going to create the future, and what you have wrought.

      Rather than trying to silence the 13 united churches letter and incredibly professional package of their grievances to Congress in what was it? October, 2011? 2012? leaders like Moline should have sat bolt upright at the thin rent in the fabric it scored across the interior of the land. Now it's starting to ooze out. Kids hear what their parents are saying privately.

  • The U.S. sells out a brave, democratic Muslim leader -- again (Updated on March 13)
    • FYI

      MORE: 2012 HuffPo article: Maldives Former President Mohamed Nasheed Refuses To Make Police Statement

      [...] A court last week issued an arrest warrant for Nasheed in the same case on suspicion of illegal arrest and breach of the constitution, but there has been so far no move to arrest him.

      Nasheed's order to the military last month to arrest the country's top Criminal Court Judge Abdullah Mohamed – who his government accused of political bias and corruption – sparked weeks of protests led by the opposition in this Indian Ocean archipelago.

      The dispute climaxed last Tuesday when Nasheed lost support of the police and military and later resigned. He later claimed that he was forced to resign at gunpoint and replaced by Hassan.

      Nasheed is seeking for the resignation of Hassan and early elections as a way out of the impasse.

      Hassan however refused to go for early election but said he will form a National Unity Government and invited Nasheed's party also to be part of it. Nasheed has rejected the invitation, but the proposal has received the backing of the United Nations and countries like the United States.

    • There's another side to this story. Mohamed Nasheed, Former Maldives President, Ousted Legally, Commission Finds

      COLOMBO, Sri Lanka — A domestic inquiry commission in the Maldives has concluded that former President Mohamed Nasheed's resignation earlier this year was legal, and that he was not forced to step down at gunpoint as he has claimed.

      Nasheed has rejected the report, which was formally released Thursday, and his supporters have resumed street protests in the Indian Ocean nation threatening to deepen the political divisions in the new democracy.

      Nasheed became archipelago nation's first democratically elected president in 2008 after 30 years of autocratic rule, but his allegedly illegal order to arrest a senior judge led to public protests and his February resignation. The commission was set up to investigate allegations that mutinying police and soldiers forced him to step down. [...]

      "The resignation of President Nasheed was voluntary and of his own free will. It was not caused by any illegal coercion or intimidation," the report said.

      "With regard to the idea that there was a `coup d'état,' nothing in the Maldives changed in constitutional terms – indeed, the constitution was precisely followed as prescribed," the report said, referring to then Vice President Mohammed Waheed Hassan assuming power after Nasheed resigned.

      It said even though Nasheed claimed a gun was held to his head forcing him to resign, he later said it was only a metaphor and there was no actual firearm.

      The commission did say that acts of police brutality were committed against Nasheed supporters following his resignation. Nasheed's supporters were accused of attacking several police stations and court houses.

  • Students in Brussels defeat Israeli embassy’s attempt to silence apartheid week events
  • Canadian activists call for global boycott of Air Canada over its outsourcing to Israel Aerospace Industries
  • Netanyahu's consciousness-raising
    • Agree with you, pabelmont.

    • Is she a foreigner, because this is bizarre:

      No doubt everyone would have preferred Netanyahu’s speech to be given by the commander in chief of the world’s superpower rather than by the leader of the Jewish state

      The President of the USA is Head of State AND Head of Government, AND Commander-In-Chief.

      The Prime Minister of Israel is Head of Government. That's it, and it's a coalition at that.

      The US Military isn't buying it, and that's a greater grassroots reach than anything the 535 in Congress have access to.

      On Feb 2, 'connected' military mouthpiece Mark Perry wrote in Al-Jazeera America, Netanyahu’s Congress invitation raises eyebrows among some US generals
      Analysis: Top brass who have questioned Obama’s strategies don't want a foreign leader influencing US decision-making.

      [A] senior Joint Chiefs of Staff officer who regularly briefs the U.S. high command was willing to speak bluntly in exchange for anonymity. “There’s always been a lot of support for Israel in the military,” the officer said, “but that’s significantly eroded over the last few years. This caps it. It’s one thing for Americans to criticize their president and another entirely for a foreign leader to do it. Netanyahu doesn’t get it. We’re not going to side with him against the commander in chief. Not ever.”

      Colonel Pat Lang (Ret.) was plainer in his plea: Write to your members of Congress! Stop Bibi!

      This man is in the United States for the specific purpose of wrenching control of US foreign policy from the hands of our elected president and the Executive Branch of the federal government.

      He does not shrink from saying that this attempt is all about his country and what he imagines are its interests and that he does not care if the interests of our country are damaged by his efforts. [...]

  • 'NYT' reports 'surge of hostile sentiment against Jews' nationwide -- on what basis?
    • Only Jews themselves, really, can make it clear “Jewish” and “Zionist” are not synonymous. And nobody else will do that for us.

      No, Mooser. Jews won't let anybody other than Jews do that for you. Big diff.

    • Just can’t accept that your rhetoric is hateful, can you?

      To hear Danaa tell it, hate speech against us (Jew and non-Jew alike) is worse in Israel.

    • Her leadership in Hillel could certainly be grounds for discussion. But not the fact that she’s a Jew.

      Why not? It was organizations, not just Hillel. President Kennedy got asked if he could be fair to all Americans even though he was a Catholic. Big deal.

      What I want to know is who ran to the NYT with this story? Or who tipped off the NYT to send one of their longtime reporters--instead of relying on a local stringer--to cover a candidate interview for the judicial board of a university student government across the country?

      Where's Norman Finkelstein when you need him?

  • Media are stunned by Congress's 'loyalty' to Netanyahu (but refuse to explain it)
    • In the same post, Colonel Lang educates a commenter about what is wrong with Netanyahu making the speech. [I'm breaking it up to make it easier to read]

      There is a great deal wrong with this speech before the Congress. Israel is a country that in spite of not having a constitution functions as a parliamentary government.

      The PM is a member of the knesset and he derives his actual power from his party or coalition's majority in the knesset. He wields power as a first among equals. That is why we constantly hear on the news of this committee or that committee meeting to approve an action with the PM as a member.

      Our government is nothing like that. Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the US Constitution.

      In our government the president and the Executive Branch have completely separate powers from those of the Congress. The president is charged with the conduct of foreign policy. He is NOT subject to the authority of Congress in the conduct of foreign policy.

      Obama can conclude an agreement with Iran and the other negotiating parties as an executive order. It is only if Obama submits the agreement to the senate for ratification as a treaty that the Congress has a "say' in this matter.

      Many people have argued for the transformation of the United States into a parliamentary democracy but this has never been a popular idea.

      Until such a transformation takes place the introduction of the leader of a foreign government to speak from Congress against the foreign policy of the US is a direct assault on our constitutional separation of powers.

      That is why it is important. pl.

    • I wouldn't be surprised if Chris Matthews' talking points came from Colonel Lang who elevated a call for his readers to demand a congressional boycott of Netanyahu's speech to the top of his blog for two days replacing his standard sticky about his own books.

      Because the points were the same. Here it is: Write to your members of Congress! Stop Bibi!

      This man is in the United States for the specific purpose of wrenching control of US foreign policy from the hands of our elected president and the Executive Branch of the federal government.

      He does not shrink from saying that this attempt is all about his country and what he imagines are its interests and that he does not care if the interests of our country are damaged by his efforts. [...]

  • Factchecking Netanyahu: An annotated guide to the Israeli P.M.'s speech to Congress
  • Pelosi blasts Netanyahu speech as 'insult to intelligence of U.S.', Amanpour calls it 'dark, Strangelovian'
    • They probably already have.

    • Can anyone identify the congressmen fawning over Netanyahu in this NYT editorial photo?

      link to static01.nyt.com

      We need a photo with arrows to names.

    • So every time a congressman jumped up it was another Kaching! and clacking of the congressional cash register keys.

      Calling Katie Miranda.

    • Erudition? I think you mean evidence.

    • Under sanctions – Bibi’s favored approach – Iran went from hundreds to almost 7000 centrifuges.

      Allow me to reiterate: the output of a centrifuge is a gas, a fuel. You cannot make a nuclear weapon out of a gas. You need metal to make it go boom.

      There are two types of nuclear weapons: implosion-type or gun-type. If you want to understand this, read this interview with Clinton Bastin, now deceased.
      From: Iran Has a Nuclear Power, Not a Weapons Program

      Clinton Bastin was responsible for the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission (AEC)’s reprocessing of plutonium, and plutonium scrap operations, plutonium-238 production, transuranic materials processing, tritium and deuterium production for weapons programs, radioactive waste management, and related activities at the Department of Energy’s Savannah River Plant in South Carolina. He was also involved in the diplomatic side of U.S. international nuclear efforts, and he was president of the Federal Employees Union at the Department of Energy headquarters.

  • Netanyahu's speech and the American Jewish condition
    • Just a little correction, ziusudra,

      as people did feel privileged because of their leaders.

      Except for the great Golden Age of Islam (600 or 700 AD to 1600 AD). They were privileged because of their knowledge, which was massive in science, mathematics, medicine, architecture, astronomy, engineering, jurisprudence, and culture. They introduced these fields of study to Europe (to Christians and Jews). They created the first universities and libraries. And their wealth was staggering. One palace in Moorish Cordoba Spain in 900 AD was worth £30 million in 1919 dollars, which at the 1919 exchange rate ($4.70) was worth US$141 million in 1919 dollars.

      Most Americans only know the First-There-Was-The-Bible-and-then-there-was-1776 version of history. And our history since then has been written by American historians who can't read, write, and speak Arabic and Chinese, so how would we (or they) know?

    • Thank you, Philip Munger. Great points.

  • It's not about nukes, it's about the US shifting the power balance -- Parsi
    • but when some people say “the security of Israel” I never know [what] they mean

      Neither does anyone. The reflexive phrase for 'I must be safe' generation, 'the who cares if I fuck you to get it' crowd.

  • The Emperor's Nuke Clothes
    • Email it to your congressman before Tuesday. Every seasoned politician knows that when the complaint reaches ridicule, things have changed. When the public starts to sneer and laugh at you, you've lost ground.

      We need to give our congressmen diarrhea for attending.

      BTW, Katie, I agree with everyone here: brilliant.

    • Or one of those little girls we saw during Operation Cast Lead drawing one on it.

  • Israel's new Asian allies
    • @Frankie P,

      I’ve been here in Taiwan since well before Tiananmen, and I followed it closely, and NOWHERE have I seen anyone say that its purpose was to quell the uprising of Uighers. You are sorely mistaken on that point.

      Point taken, Frankie. I've probably believed one of the many disinfo stories put out in 1994 that did say it was the Uighurs. After reading what you wrote, I did some research and read about three different groups being in the square that day (police, students, and a workers' group). The police didn't have guns, and either the students or the workers protected them when things got out of hand. So, I'm suspecting that the 1994 Uighur story may have been part of the burgeoning anti-Muslim propaganda that started in 1992. Thanks for the heads-up.

    • One day Israel may be relying on a Chinese veto at the UN, not a US one.

      Not a chance. It is not in China's interest. China has a sizable Muslim population and it does not want trouble within its borders. Don't forget that Tiananmen Square was to quell the uprising the Uighers (Muslims).

      I suspect that Jonathan Cook does not speak Chinese. He should rely, therefore, on the insights of Chas Freeman, who does.

      The Middle East and China

  • Racism is in the air: Video showing racist exchange between Israelis and a flight attendant goes viral
    • American, your AF Colonel friend is right, and not just about obedience. My uncle was head of one of the most elite sections of the AirForce, their top pilots. I was staying with him one time when he and my aunt went out to the mess for dinner with friends. He came back with a heavy heart. He was going to have to let his top pilot go. The guy got drunk. I said, "That's all?" He said yes, if you can't hold your liquor when your feet are on the ground, it means you can't take g-force under battle flight conditions. You have to go. My aunt told me later that my uncle used Saturday night drinks to determine who had the right stuff early on in their training.

    • And why they were rude? In part, back where they came from, politeness was something reserved for higher society, and only within the higher society. On top of that, properly accented Polish sounds rather rude to more eastern Slavic speakers, with klipped and missing vowels, and “hard” consonants, so the perception of rudeness (as an object of emulation) was amplified (similarly, proper British accent may sound patronizing, amplifying the perception which is also based on actual behavior).

      Astute observation.

  • Jewish groups that blindly support Israel make US and European Jews potential victims of violence -- Avnery
    • “Swedish state radio asked the Israeli ambassador if Jews bear responsibility for anti-Semitism,” he revealed. “That’s disgusting and insane. The claim that Jews bear responsibility for anti-Semitism is one of the most ancient expressions of anti-Semitism.”said Bali.

      No, it's not. It's a logical question to ask these days. The Irish have a wonderful declarative phrase, "You've brought it on yourself."

      Do you think there is no consequence to the actions of "The Jewish State," as Netanyahu insists, and the kingdom of Jews worldwide, whom Netanyahu claims he represents? This isn't WWII. And no one is persecuting Jews just for being Jews (that only happens to Muslims today with the distinct urging in the US of rabid pro-Israeli Jewish activists). Your lying king of the Jews is about to address our Congress to foment war, which will kill more American progeny, in contradiction to his own intelligence service stating there is no Iran threat. Honey badger don’t give a shit. Your warring king of the Jews thinks nothing of murdering and torturing the indigenous people of the land you stole.

      So if you re going to insist on your own country and state it can only be made up of Jews, then hike up your pants and take responsibility for what you wrought like a man. You're in the big leagues now, and international criticism comes with the territory. Deal with it. But you don’t get to invoke 70 years ago as an excuse, or a brickbat. Times have changed.

    • while sicko Wahhabism manifested by ISIS and like groups has nothing to do with Islam. Tarring all of Islam because of a few terrorists is as wrong as tarring all of Christianity because of organizations like the KKK.

      Oh come off it, Walid.

      You expect Americans to understand Wahhabism? They don't even understand their own federal monetary system. Nor do they perceive the need to. Ninety-five percent of them are vaguely aware that they were once in the top-10 of educated countries 40 years ago, but have no clue that they now lead the top of the bottom half. Americans are uneducated idiots. Seriously lacking. Corresponds to the vaunted "meritocracy" taking over.

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