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  • On ‘Death to Arabs’ in Jerusalem & Tel Aviv
    • I chose to give a message of hope, trusting that the idea of something beautiful is sometimes more important than the horrific truth.

      Choose truth next time, although this was a good start.

  • It's time for liberal Jewish bodies to take a stand
    • Substitute what Netanyahu wants in this phrase, and the logic becomes laughable.

      If Israel is to survive as a liberal, democratic nation

      ===>>

      If the Jewish State is to survive as a liberal, democratic nation

    • It’s time for liberal Jewish bodies to take a stand

      Fat chance.

  • 'Heartbreaking' is U.S. government's talking point for Gaza massacre
  • Dear American media, I’m asking you to simply tell what’s happening in Gaza
  • Finally, Israel is alienating the US mainstream media
    • There's one other thing to add to the concern of internet youth (Millennials). Mega-advertising co. McCann-Erickson did a two-year global study of their clients' future customers. It was in their direct financial interest to do so. Surveyed 400,000 kids in 110 countries where McCann has offices. Held hundreds of focus groups in the more populous countries.

      What they found out genuinely shocked the older guys; they didn't see it coming. More than talking to their friends, more than community, more than digital inventions, more than all the youthful ideals of fighting poverty and war or making money, more than anything, and by a large margin, significant enough for McCann-Erickson to change their entire global strategy internally--check it out--was the Truth.

      You lie, you lose. The new young editors coming up resonate with that. They know no one cares about you protecting your ideological, religious, or financial ass, when what you are doing is harming people, or making excuses for people who do.

      EDIT: IMO, that's why newspapers have lost their appeal. These kids still read special interest magazines; it isn't the paper they reject. It's the lies.

    • And don't forget to take the editors of internet news orgs and blogs to task for yellow journalism. Scream at them calmly and briefly for fomenting what isn't there (Russia) and is despicably slanted (I/P).

  • In Photos: Worldwide protest against Israeli attack on Gaza (Updated)
    • Well, I'm late to the party. It was two days ago. link to onthemedia.org

    • @Ramzi Jaber,

      but first a moment of silence to all the brave Palestinians who lost their lives

      Yes.

      All I see is Israel saying they are going for broke to get the Palestinians to leave the land and then they can take it all. I see nothing else. Only this time they don't care what the world thinks. They think they can rationalize afterwards, and we will eventually forgive them. I think the consequences over time are going to be different this time.

    • Phil, just heard your comments on NPR. Nice measured job. Loved the tag line about how the narrative has changed from 1967, how now the narrative is occupation, and the tease of You know what journalists do when they encounter a new narrative. Good tone.

  • Video: Outraged constituents confront CT Senator Chris Murphy over support for Gaza attack
  • On the defensive, Barney Frank accuses Clemons and Kornacki of ganging up on him, and Israel
  • Mr. Obama, spend one night with us in Shifa hospital, it would change history
  • Sullivan and Leveretts throw in the towel on two-state solution
    • @RoHa,

      Does that mean you're available as an editor?

    • Its been a terrible week. As I walked by the office tv today I heard the 200th Palestinian has been killed. . . . I do support a state where Jews are safe and equal but not at the expense of anyone else least of all people whose families have been living there from time immemorial.

      I haven't seen you support anything of the kind on this board.

    • The only possible solution is two states.

      Oh yeah? You're not helping that.

    • When they become convinced that Jews are safe in the world and in Israel (or whatever it eventually becomes) regardless of the demography.

      That may be an impossible task (because the fear is both rational and irrational and the fear is also a pretext for those whose ideology depends on it).

      Since when does the life of a Jew become more valuable than anyone else's?

      Why should 2014-World buy that shit?

    • STFU yonah. The Leveretts are American heroes.

    • In other words, ritzl, anti-semitism is on the horizon because of Israel's actions, although not the classical variety which is that you're hated just because you exist as a Jew. That died. That's dead. But Jews in Israel are going to be reviled for their actions and choices; however, Diaspora Jews don't necessarily need to be caught up in that dragnet if they don't support the rabid flock in Israel.

      Is that what you're saying?

  • Soul-crushing video shows Gaza father unable to accept his little boy's killing
  • Terrifying tweets of pre-Army Israeli teens
    • "That is the Jew haters who you can detect by their use of the word goyim."

      Give your hyperventilating a break. And who made you the global cruise editor? The word goyim courses through Manhattan speech from Jews and non-Jews like the traffic.

      And now you've added A Light Among Nations? Apart from the obvious sarcasm James North was employing in his use of Israel's pat metaphor for decades, are you frickin' kidding me? What do you want? Verisimilitude? "A Bomb Among Nations." Or better yet, "A Boo-Boo Among Nations." Or, Biach.

    • All Kardashian wannabees.

    • "Outside the US, Israel is now held in contempt by most nations and people in the world, and their image in the US is on the slide too."

      Americans globally are being held in contempt for backing Israel as well. I'm hearing that our neighbors to the north are experiencing disgust with both countries, and wondering why Harper is going along with it.

  • White House says US can't stop 'tsunami' of boycott and isolation if Israel won't end 'occupations'
    • Hardtalk on BBC radio punched it to Dore Gold last night, who gave it his harbara best.

      Everyone I talk to is fed up with and tired of Israel. It's Dennis The Menace of nations with guns and bombs.

    • Paving way for US not to veto settlements resolution in UNSC

      Then cutting the dough next January.

    • The essence of dramatic tragedy is self-realization and awareness of the role and decision you played in what happened to you.

      (The essence of dramatic melodrama is always blaming the Other, while you remain whole and blameless. Also how comedy works, chiefly.)

  • Contradicting Israeli officials, family of Tarek Abu Khdeir says he was attacked while in uncle's Jerusalem backyard
  • Beating of Florida teen in Jerusalem is getting attention in U.S.
    • I'm in shock, annie. Really. This is so barbaric. We have to preserve this evidence, even if you give a warning about how bad it is.

    • @Abierno,

      Let me get this straight: they forced this kid to drink gasoline, doused him on the outside of this body, then set him on fire?

      Is that right?

      You have a link to the autopsy photos?

    • @LuLu,

      (I NEVER voted in my life nor will I, they all lie)

      Then write in someone's name. But vote. At least your vote contributes to a smaller percentage of the gross for the winner. Stop thinking that you're so small that you don't matter. You do.

  • Chomsky supports portions of BDS agenda, but faults others, citing realism and int'l consensus
  • 'I was a Zionist till I was 64. I want to hit myself'
  • Young Jew seeks to prepares his community for heretical & inevitable-- end of Jewish state
  • Jeffrey Goldberg leads the charge on latest BDS smear: Presbyterian Church divestment is anti-Semitic because David Duke supports it
    • @Ron Edwards

      the oh-how-hostile hurty-feels game

      Nailed that.

    • Richard Wagner expressed antisemitism in his writings declaring certain composers Germans and others as foreigners. Included in the foreigners were Jews.

      No different than what Israelis do to Palestinians.

    • Oh yes they have, Citizen. The church crowd has. Zionism is rife. Goldberg maybe not so much. But Zionism, yes.

    • I've said it here two or three times before, you take on the mainline Protestant churches in the US at your peril (the mainline Protestant churches do not undertake these actions lightly). Catholic churches don't have that protection. Neither do mosques or even synagogues, as much as the latter would like to think so.

      Let's egg Goldberg on. He has no idea the damage he is doing; he expresses no remorse for the human suffering Israel is causing, instead he blames the town criers stateside. I'm already hearing about the reaction within the Presby community to the anger they are getting from the pro-Israel crowd, but that's because I'm a trusted listener, I just shut up and nod. The reaction is significant, IMO, hardening. Frankly, this blindness to the effects and consequences of their actions has plagued Jewish groups for millennia. The difference today is the internet; they can't control the message or the facts. Those days are over.

    • If David Duke said he supported clear air and water for everyone, would Goldberg reject or sneer at it?

      Goldberg's been given a national platform because he Jewish, not because he's intelligent or insightful, and it shows. Sadly.

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  • Oldman says Hollywood is 'run by Jews,' then offers over-the-top apology
  • From Mississippi to Gaza -- Dorothy Zellner reflects on 50 years of struggle
  • 'Washington Post' suggests Presbyterians voted against Jews and peace
    • Don't piss off a Presbyterian. A whole bunch of them took on the vastly larger British army in 1776 and won. (As Benjamin Franklin wrote, there was a lot of love for the British before the tide turned.)

  • Conflicted coverage shows: 'NYT' is now disputed territory
    • Ninety-eight percent of Americans did not grow up putting coins in cans to support and contribute to a theocracy across the pond. We certainly did not grow up thinking it was a proper and American thing to harm a people because of a word-of-mouth land grant, steal their land, and pistol-whip their children for 70 years while the coins fulfilled their plan.

      Yet the people who want that theocracy came here, like many of us, to put down roots and benefit from the safety of this land, this country and its rules. They didn't settle where they could and would build the theocracy. They settled here where the concept of a theocracy is anathema to everything America stands for, and has been for 238 years.

      And Americans are expected to embrace this cognitive dissonance? You expect our religious and social groups to cheerlead this behavior? You are surprised that the churches (not the state)—what Phil calls public life--are expressing what churches do under their covenant?

      The NYT, unfortunately, has developed the famous cartoon NewYorkeritis: the USA is defined by New York on the east coast and LA on the west, and no longer has the slightest sense that anyone lives nor matters in-between. And we are the poorer for it.

  • Neoconservatism is 'vindicated' in fawning 'NYT' piece on power couple of Kagan and Kristol
    • Uhhh, not so fast, Nevada Ned. Read this: link to rt.com
      or search for the entire interview with Stephen Cohen on Thom Hartmann on RT. Great show.

      Here's the link: link to thenation.com

    • I simply believe that there are those for whom the Jewish part of all this is the candy, the hit, the fix. This is true even if you pin most of the blame on Israel for invoking the same series of images and symbols.

      Because of events in Israel/Palestine there is a free pass to come out of the shadows of polite society with the Jews, Jews, Jews; Then. Now. Always. The terms need to be softened occasionally but not always.

      No. Gentiles are just fed up with genuflecting to the revolving terminology standards Jews set for non-Jews, the curlicues, and filigree, of turns of phrase acceptable in one decade, but not in another. Even Tony Judt was not immune from attack and harem for violating The Canon. It wasn't me who established that henceforth Israel is to be known as the Jewish state. It was Netanyahu at his UN Wylie Coyote performance. A state of Jews, right? But if we say here, "The Jews this...and the Jews that" ---and not the permissible to you "The Israelis this...and the Israelis that"---you run down the aisle with your blue and white flag acting all offended and intimating anti-Semitism is secretly harbored in the minds and hearts of everyone around you who might disagree with you, or only has time for verbal shorthand.

      By your language police standards, we're not allowed to say "The Jews in DC,” or the shorter “The Jews,” the way we can say "The Dems in DC," "The Repubs in DC," "The Christian Zios," or "The Presbyterians." Because, why? You don't exist? You don't organize spectacularly and specifically as Jews to get Jewish things done through congress and inserted into foreign policy? You don’t brag that you’re the richest, smartest group in the USA, and that you control the media and reign supreme in finance? Oh, yeah, and science too?

      So park this sanctimonious and tedious shit and realize we Americans are raised in non-Hebrew schools to separate church and state, and some of us take it seriously. And that we have the right—it’s called public debate, and civic duty—to object to arguments, positions, and actions taken that do not serve public purpose. And if a Jew is doing it, too fucking bad.

  • Fire Thomas Friedman
  • 'Netanyahu won't act without a cane to his ass' -- Erekat says, urging ICC on Abbas
  • Anti-Cantor coalition included Tea Partiers, Independents, Democrats
  • Video: 'CBS This Morning' runs hard hitting spot on boycott of Israel
    • Or maybe the CBSers got an earful if they went back home for the Memorial Weekend before the parties start in the Hamptons. They would have heard the grumbling, and the genuine growing fatigue with that country.

    • Yep. The Stones only care about the money. Mick is famous for that. I remember when word was whispered by party hosts that he's as tight as a condom. His longtime girlfriend was $9/10 million in debt. Killed herself because of it. Did he help her? Not a chance. And he's worth over half a bill, at least that's the public figure. I wouldn't be surprised if he asked for double fees for the agita.

  • No Jews allowed
    • why should the girl be surprised that the 2 soldiers spoke in hebrew as if that too was abnormal.

      Ally wrote, "The two border police officers spoke to each other in Hebrew, a language I have very little understanding of."

      It was an observation of an action. No surprise. No judgment, other than to comment that she couldn't discern the gist of it.

      You GroupThinkZios have the most amazing ability to see faces in the bottom of coffee cups, like mirages. Jesus on a cookie.

    • just in case you don’t understand that all languages evolve and turn into versions that differ from their past

      Languages, but not land, hunh.

  • Another pro-Israel student leader offers himself as advocate for 'the Palestinian people' (shirtless)
  • Check out the new Rolling Stones logo
  • Chris Matthews channels his inner Bill Kristol
  • Public debate on Zionism sets a crucial precedent
    • Sweden is a country with rising anti-immigrant sentiment and persecution of Jews so bad that Jews have more or less been ethnically cleansed from Malmo.

      Oh puh-leeze. Jews have not been ethically cleansed from Malmö.

    • The Palestinian Arab state would be for the Palestinian Arabs only, and use Islamic sharia law as the base for its legal system.
      What kind of nonsense is this? Christians have lived in Palestine for centuries. Your assumption that Palestinians are all Muslim is intellectually deficient.

    • The correct analogy to 'Jewish and democratic' is Muslim and democratic. For that, there is Malaysia and Indonesia, the latter having around 225 million people.

    • So they lied.

  • Netanyahu says Jews invented the idea of 'honoring your father and mother'
  • Notice who is welcoming the Pope, and who is outraged
  • 'Ebony' article explores 'Why Black People Must Stand With Palestine'
    • Uhhh...thetruthhurts, you're really out on a limb here. Your understanding and knowledge of slavery and its aftermath are lacking. Take annie's advice.

  • Israel tries to blame killings on Palestinians as int'l outrage builds
    • Just one more step in the beachheading of anti-Israel sentiments that is going to engulf them globally.

      Newsflash! Nobody gives a shit about being called anti-semitic when the 'anti-semitic' action is to object to trained soldiers killing unarmed kids. Doesn't matter where it is or who is doing it, even Jews. In 2014, the holocaust doesn't come with a pass at that, with murder rights, and the world--and everyone I know--is getting fed up with the constant insinuation that it does. Israel's days are numbered among non-Jewish sympathies.

  • Canadian Jewish paper censors piece defending Zionism because it mentions Blumenthal debate
  • The U.S. continues to appease Narendra Modi
    • Oh, goody. A MW fight. ;-)

      I know what Krauss is talking about. It's the real stakeholders, who are so often voiceless. Who is going to carry their flag?

  • What’s wrong with the ADL survey and how it could be improved
    • God didn't choose or select anything. Someone wrote a book of laws and peddled it as rules defining 'truth'.

  • Commencement meltdown-- students are wisely rejecting elite authority
  • On the day two Palestinians are killed, 'NYT' reporter flashes snark
    • I sometimes think that some non-Jew, non-Arab or Muslim should be assigned this desk at the Times, but then I think, how could they possibly survive, with only a non-tribal dedication to truth in journalism as a security blanket, and no one around with whom to commiserate?

      Chris Hedges had the Middle East NYT job until he quit over the Iraq War. No serious paper sends a native to cover a foreign desk. Ain't done. Rudoren should be back in the US and someone dispassionate put in her place. David Binder covered Yugoslavia for 30 years. Christopher Dickey was foreign correspondent for Newsweek for decades.

    • The NYT should never have put a Jew or an Israeli in Israel as a foreign correspondent. You don't do that in the news biz. The NYT has become a synagogue newsletter when it comes to Israel, and Rudoren is the diarist for the women's committee, just like the photo shows.

  • After first visit to Israel, 'Foreign Policy' editor says religious, garrison state has 'passed its sell-by date'
    • I loved the [...] urgency with which virtually everyone I met discussed big critical issues.

      That would be 65 years of urgency?

      Spare me the cosmetics.

  • Obama outmaneuvers Netanyahu, at last
    • Big deal. So Obama blames Israel for failure of the talks, or his minions do. For those who didn't want to see peace, they're elated. For those who wanted peace or some change, this is nothing new, we all expected this as you properly noted in your first piece. And the rest of America doesn't give a shit; they want jobs.

      I think exposing Netanyahu as disingenuous (lying about Abbas) and his flying off the handle at Kerry exposing him to the international community was far more useful as a window on Netanyahu's credibility. And the apartheid comment Kerry made two Fridays ago. If anything, Obama's genius has been in giving Netanyahu enough rope.

  • In historic interviews, US officials blame end of talks on Israeli land theft
    • Roger Cohen's crowing about Israel's economy and prospects sounds like what they said about Argentina in the 1940s. From The Economist recently:

      The country [Argentina] was a magnet for European immigrants, who flocked to find work on the fertile pampas, where crops and cattle were propelling Argentina’s expansion. In 1914 half of Buenos Aires’s population was foreign-born.

      The country ranked among the ten richest in the world, after the likes of Australia, Britain and the United States, but ahead of France, Germany and Italy. Its income per head was 92% of the average of 16 rich economies. From this vantage point, it looked down its nose at its neighbours: Brazil’s population was less than a quarter as well-off.

      It never got better than this. Although Argentina has had periods of robust growth in the past century—not least during the commodity boom of the past ten years—and its people remain wealthier than most Latin Americans, its standing as one of the world’s most vibrant economies is a distant memory (see chart 1). Its income per head is now 43% of those same 16 rich economies; it trails Chile and Uruguay in its own back yard.

      As the article notes;

      “Only people this sophisticated could create a mess this big,” runs a Brazilian joke that plays on Argentines’ enduring sense of being special.

      What caused Argentina's demise was the failure to fully educate its populace over the course of two generations. Only the elite needed to be educated. The same exists in Israel. The only population that is growing there are the Ultra-Orthodox, and their education is religious and insular. Good luck after two generations of that running the country. What if China insists on paying for goods in Yuan? The sectoral balances change for Israel.

    • “U.S. officials “

      Exactly. US Jewish officials. And I think the historicity is in this line, "Its [Israel 's] prosperity depends on the way it is viewed by the international community."

      Because this piece is a PR salve to cover their asses in Europe for the failed talks. This is Israel saying the cause is a little bit of column A, a little bit of column B, a little bit of column C. The land theft is no new news; fercrissake it's the internet, the new settlements were mainstream news every time they got the permits. This is Israel trying to steer the story. Because the real story is that Netanyahu and the rest of Israel don't give a shit about peace and have no intention of giving up one inch, thank you for the money America. This article doesn't say anything you couldn't read on moonofalabama or niqnaq or any other number of websites four months ago. TPTB in Israel commandeered the blog talk to get in front of it. We don't have statesmen anymore; this is just Israel doing gangsta' and the US doesn't know how to work the neighborhood.

  • The Algeria model -- a conversation with James D. Le Sueur
    • The problem for Israel is, I think, the legitimate concern about people like Ahmadinejad, lunatics who want Israel wiped off the map. That’s a serious concern because it represents a state now making threats against another state. Israeli politics can’t really be fully addressed till you think about these other actors out there, and think about these lunatics like Ahmadinejad.

      Except when it's bullshit. I find it hard to believe that La Sueur hasn't read the explanation of Ahmadinejad's quote. This link contains a link to the full transcript in Farsi, which I am sure La Sueur's colleagues at St. Anthony's, Oxford, would help him with.

      Then there is the statement by Livni in Haaretz, circa 2007, that Iran is not a threat to Israel. Ah, found it. Livni behind closed doors: Iran nukes pose little threat to Israel — Haaretz magazine details foreign minister's throughts on Iran.

      EDIT: Fascinating interview, btw.

    • @Krauss,

      Lots of intelligent, well informed people do work and live in fly over country . . . and Hostage himself.

  • Fiddler on the Nakba
  • Defending Apartheid – From 1968 to the present
    • @Hostage, what was their response, and did you tell them you are Jewish and ret-Military?

    • @The Hasbara Buster,

      Exactly. As for these:

      drip irrigation ... pill-sized cameras that can be swallowed to diagnose internal conditions ... portable flash drives ... instant messaging, to name just a few.”

      Drip irrigation was first chronicled in Afghanistan in 1866. Jews had nothing to do with it.

      Pill-sized cameras? Ya' mean capsule endoscopy? Oh, for fuck's sake. It was Olympus in 1950 that patented that idea.

      Portable flash drives? Any of us around at the beginning--and I am one--remember this was done in Singapore. Israel stole the idea and created SanDisk. Everyone knows that.

      Instant messaging? Oh jeezuss. Read The Hasbara Buster above.

      Why do Israelis have to lie constantly about their accomplishments? Why do they have to bullshit everyone?

    • Israel’s innovations in science

      ???
      What, pray tell, are those?

  • As Israel 'staggers toward the abyss,' criticizing it is now 'the most fashionable cause' on the left
  • 'NYT' scrubs 'analysis' that Hamas is 'seen in West as the devil'
    • Hostage says:
      April 26, 2014 at 4:25 pm

      There are times I wished I lived in Kansas. I'd bronze that Droit du Seigneur for sitting rights at the bar.

    • Whatever happened to Mooser? Did we offend him?

      Yes.

    • Nah, he’d just tell me he’s working this side of the street ;-)

      Correction: his side of the street.

    • What, you mean there are Arabs in the Middle East? When did that happen?

      It didn't. It's suspected. That's what everyone's exercised about.

    • Jodi Rudoren makes Israel look really bad in the article

      How is it possible to exceed the already obvious?

  • Video: Israeli soldiers detain 6-year-old child on his way to school in Hebron
  • John Judis's Truman book is a landmark in anti-Zionism
    • Great comments here, Hostage. So informative. Thanks.

    • OT, the Supreme Court is going to rule, apparently, on whether Congress has the power to dictate Israel policy to the executive branch.

      Foreign policy has been the exclusive purview of the executive branch I thought, per the Constitution.

      Will this affect the power to dictate all foreign policy to the executive?

  • Max Blumenthal's guilt by association – with Jewish ethics
  • Haaretz joins Rush Limbaugh and company in trying to link Max Blumenthal to KC shooter suspect
    • Zofia says:
      April 17, 2014 at 10:39 am

      Zofia, my comment about nomenclature was to yonah fredman at April 16, 2014 at 5:25 pm, NOT you. Considering the moderating time delay and whatnot, it's anybody's guess when and where the comment will show up.

      I've been on this board for years. I ought to know better than to comment without referencing the original remark so that there's no confusion. I thought you did a great job educating yonah who will get his panties in a bunch over spelling but has no problem with decades of destruction of lives over 3,000 year-old fantasy real estate deeds conjured up in a 19th C Viennese cafe. ;-)

    • Hostage made a comment (actually two, but of a piece) on the other KS/Max thread that was brilliant. Stands repeating here because I doubt many saw it.

      [In reference to]max seems pretty willing to except that this inciden proves Israel makes Jews less safe rather then more.

      That ought to be obvious, but the headline struck me in an entirely different way. We recognize that this guy is completely unhinged because he is willing to kill others to establish a White Christian State. But none of these Zionist buttheads in the Twitterverse have commented on the sanity or morality of the thousands of Jews who have acted out in the very same way over the years in Palestine. Thousands of unhinged Jewish racists there have killed thousands of their neighbors in an effort to create a homogeneous Jewish state. But they don’t question the morality or sanity of that situation for even one moment.

      The ADL audit hadn’t registered any harassment, vandalism or acts of violence against Jews or persons who were thought to be Jews in Kansas for years. See for example the zero totals for 2012 and 2013 in the 2013 audit. link to adl.orgYou will find similar totals 2011.

      In those very same years, some of these very same Twitter accounts reported that Jews in Israel were the objects of numerous rocket attacks, bus bombings, shootings, and vehicular assaults.

      There weren’t any assaults in the United States in 2013 that required hospitalization, that certainly isn’t the case for any year in Israel. link to adl.org How on Earth can you argue that Israel makes anyone safer?

      link to mondoweiss.net

      [In reference to]However-based on what and how he writes he will never ever understand what the majority of American and Israeli Jews do. That incidents like these would be ten times as frequent without the existence of Israel.

      Israel was established by a bunch of armed raving lunatics no different than this fellow. Thousands of them died fighting wars of aggression against their non-Jewish neighbors in order to establish a homogeneous Jewish territory and population. The sad part is that we recognize this person as an evil, racist, murderer, but allow bigots like you to treat the founders of Israel like heroes.

      link to mondoweiss.net

      MJ Rosenberg needs to take note, as well.

    • Your beef is nomenclature?

  • Friedman prepares American Jews for a divorce from zealot Israel
    • Smart observations, David Doppler. [T]hey’ve shown themselves increasingly inclined to respond to challenge by upping their arrogance level, an historically catastrophic tendency.

      My brother-in-law could be a Naftali Bennett twin, or was one, for 20 years; he makes pilgrimages to Auschwitz; he's been insufferable on the subject.

      He just changed. I mean. Just. Changed. The parade to kiss Adelson's ring did it, as far as I can tell, because he's bitching about it, and that's when the bitching started. Now he's complaining about the number of Holocaust Museums and the PBS series on Jews, and wants to know why foreign policy is couched in terms of what's good for the Jews, "When did that start?" He and my sister (peas in a pod) make remarks about Adelson that, frankly, shock me. I don't engage either one of them in what they think about I/P, I just don't go there. So this change in the weathervane is entirely new and unsolicited. But they're not original thinkers. So something they've heard on Fox, Limbaugh, or at the bar has caused this. I think your wet finger is sensing the wind.

  • To reach the 'moveable middle' in Jewish life, you must be inside the tent
    • So I don’t see why the Naderites should be absolved of responsibility for the Iraq horror (and the deregulation of Wall Street, and the decimation of the economy, and the splintering of the social safety net)

      Why stop there, Dan. Include the Indians. ;-)
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      FYI, it was CLINTON and his ignorance about how the federal economy works (he applied state economics to the federal level without having a g.d. clue what the consequences would be) that decimated the economy. It was a little delayed by the dotcom and housing bubbles, but Bubba did it.

      Here's a leetle picture to help you see it. See that red triangle above the zero line in the 1999-2000 timeframe? That was Clinton's surplus, and that is what caused the financial crisis, along with killing Glass-Steagall in Oct 1999, making it against the law to regulate derivatives (Dec 15, 2000 262-page budget amendment), and having the idiot Jack Lew--the guy currently destroying this economy--create the Balanced Budget Act of 1997. Go back and look at the chart. Can you see what it produced? Bloomberg crowed at the time that the last time we saw a surplus like that was in 1927-1930, yahoo. It's a teeter-totter, Dan. If the government is in surplus, the private sector is going to be in deficit. Every. Fucking. Time. There is no reason for the US government to ever be in surplus or have a balanced budget when it issues its own currency and it is the world's reserve currency (which means we will have a trade deficit because global countries obtain our currency by selling us stuff). We’ve had seven surpluses or balanced budgets in 225 years, and each one was followed by a depression.

      The real crooks from that time were Alan Greenspan and Robert Rubin who went to Clinton two weeks before his first inauguration and told Clinton--a veteran of state economic politics where you do have to balance the budget--and lied through their teeth to the incoming president. They told Clinton that he was inheriting a huge government deficit, and if he borrowed any more money to pay for his promises, interest rates would rise, people would stop borrowing and spending, and there would be an economic disaster. It's at minute 12:20 in Part 2 of The Trap by Adam Curtis.*

      Maybe Rubin believed the tripe, but Greenspan was the head of the Federal Reserve and knew better, or if he didn’t, he should never have been the head of the Fed. Two weeks later and Greenspan would have been guilty of lying to a sitting president. Of course, he told the truth here in 2011 when he was trying to regain his reputation: link to youtube.com

      ------------------------------------
      * BBC made youtube take down the video. Copyright issues. The Trap is a series of three films by Bafta-winning producer Adam Curtis that explains the origins of our contemporary, narrow idea of freedom. It shows how a simplistic model of human beings as self-seeking, almost robotic, creatures led to today's idea of freedom. This model was derived from ideas and techniques developed by nuclear strategists during the Cold War to control the behavior of the Soviet enemy.

      Episodes included: 1. Fuck You Buddy, 2. The Lonely Robot, and 3. We Will Force You To Be Free.

    • Naderites? Brother Flesher can't read inside that tent? No light? Here's part of a conservative Utah 2008 op-ed 'splainin' what Daniel must have known before the war started when he presumably could have done something about it because the diddling for it was done in his tent:

      According to a report by the Inter Press Service, a member of the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, Philip D. Zelikow, said the Iraq war had nothing to do with weapons of mass destruction, the main reason cited to go to war. IPS said Zelikow told a crowd at the University of Virginia on Sept. 10, 2002:

      "Why would Iraq attack America or use nuclear weapons against us? I'll tell you what I think the real threat (is) and actually has been since 1990 - it's the threat against Israel.

      "And this is the threat that dare not speak its name, because the Europeans don't care deeply about that threat, I will tell you frankly. And the American government doesn't want to lean too hard on it rhetorically, because it is not a popular sell," said Zelikow.

      Zelikow was right. I was one of those people who bought the WMD hook, line and sinker along with Congress, which authorized action based on erroneous British intelligence reports of nuclear bomb capacities that threatened the U.S. I even thought control of oil reserves could have been motivation to go to battle. (In part, that's true.) But if you want to know the real reason behind the Iraqi war, it was the pro-Israel, neo-conservative influence of the Bush administration that lobbied for invasion of its primary regional enemy.

      Former Sen. Ernest Hollings, D-S.C., acknowledged that sentiment in May 2004 when he said the U.S. invaded Iraq "to secure Israel" in several published accounts.

      The op-ed was about Orrin Hatch stopping by The Spectrum news office in Cedar City, UT and admitting that the Iraq War was for Israel. Nader had nothing to do with it.

  • Simon Schama's Israel whitewash
    • @Dabakr, you are several years behind in your MW archive reading.

      "While the Israelis NEVER set out to destroy Arabs and their culture"...and all your zioblather about Indians.

      Start with Hostage's archive because no one has the time or energy to correct new ones like you with facts and docs except Hostage, who was involved with Middle East issues as a military international lawyer. For the rest of is, it's the tedium of confronting willful ignorance.

      And your knowledge of Indians and Wounded Knee is from the movies. Keep your Israeli history to yourself and stop poaching ours. There is no comparison; our history with the 500 Indian tribes extends back over 500 years, and our form of representative government comes from Indian government.

    • @DaBakr,

      and the desire for Jews to ethnically cleanse the entire partition of ALL but Jews.

      You mean like Israeli historian Benny Morris wrote?

    • MDM, read Israel Shahak?

  • Australia opposed Palestinian UN bid because foreign policy was 'subcontracted to Jewish donors' -- report
    • Then you should dial this message up a notch or two because it's true:

      So long as journalists won’t talk about a real effect in our politics, then these rich rightwingers and politicians won’t be embarrassed, the public remains uninformed, and nothing changes.

  • Brandeis retracts plan to honor anti-Muslim activist Ayaan Hirsi Ali
  • Outspoken Rahm Emanuel goes off-the-record when asked about Israel
    • John Nichols wrote a great piece in The Nation ("Trade Wars") wiping the floor with this guy. This was around the time that Lou Dobbs was doing his anti-immigration pieces for three years in the service of the Lobby via CIS (And Stephen Steinlight) on CNN whipping up the anti-immigration foes. This was after Goldman-Sachs, which represented Mexico in 1995, destroyed the Mexican Peso shortly after Rahm Emanuel pushed NAFTA over the goalposts in 1994, as he bragged to Nichols, and ruined the mom-and-pop farm businesses in northern Mexico that led to massive immigration a few years later. Clinton promised to make Goldman Sachs whole in 1995/96, which he did on Emanuel's suggestion. Whole. No one in this country noticed. After the destruction of the mom-and-pop establishments in 1996/97, Emanuel through a year-long series of op-eds in the WSJ convinced the US companies operating in northern Mexico to leave $2.22/hr Mexico for $0.60/hour China by begging for China's entry in the WTO.

      What was supposed to be protected and promoted by NAFTA within our regional trading area was destroyed by this creep. And they later used Lou Dobbs to cover their deeds and turn Americans against their own best interests...not that most would know what those are, jingoism is so easy to pass for completion of a high school education in this country that any argument will do.

    • Exactly.

      BTW. Newsflash. This?

      we can say anything we like about Israel in Israel, but we can’t do so here, because we can’t count on non-Jews to support Israel unless we keep our thumb on the scale.

      Their thumbs on the scale are losing them more than non-Jewish support for Israel.

  • Apathy in Ramallah as negotiations with Israel dive
    • If one of the intentions behind the ex-IDF involvement in the Ukraine coup (like the guy called Delta who runs with Svoboda) was to help set up the upcoming sale of offshore Israeli gas to the EU, then sanctions will be prohibitive for Israel. A lot of investment has gone into the offshore project which is not expected to come online fully until 2018 (I think, although production has already started) and that timing competes with when South Stream is supposed to come online. Initially, Israel wanted to export to China and South Korea, but Russia is now supplying China via a monster pipeline. This is all speculation on my part.

  • US is 'absolutely adamant' that Palestine not go to ICC and wreck the peace process -- Power
    • The access and all-eyes-on-her/him must be what's so seductive to new officials. Representatives hit the DC floor fund-raising for their two-year renewal. The unelected (appointed) have their heady elevation to maintain, and every minute in DC is a reminder. The silence their words are met in. The best tables. The limos automatically arranged to get them to insider parties, and the slight bow the White House gate gives in lieu of ID.

      Ain't no way fuckin' policy gonna' rip that up, babee. Trappings contain their own restraint.

    • Maybe Cass Sunstein can nudge her back to the reality based community.
      If he knew where it were.

    • Krauss, look who she married.

  • An open letter to J Street: Let's talk
  • Both Sides: Anti-BDS concerns on campus vs. life in the occupied territories
  • It's the borders, stupid
  • Let Pollard go. But first get answers from Tel Aviv
    • I heard (1991) approximately 1500, 2500 with their families included.

      In other words, about half of what we're told were US soldier deaths in Iraq.

    • They are mainstream sources. You didn't look and you didn't consult the footnotes.

    • There were no plausible meaningful threats towards the USSR proper since Israel didn’t have the ability to penetrate Soviet air defenses.

      Wrong. See my comment here: link to mondoweiss.net and here:
      link to mondoweiss.net

    • I'm about to watch the Greenwald clip, W.Jones. I hope he hasn't said what you say he said, and I have no reason to doubt you. Because if he has, that's it for me for Greenwald. Would Greenwald campaign for the release of Hanson, Ames, and Pelton?

    • I have a strong suspicion that one reason the CIA cares this much is that he’s a big embarrassment to them

      And their colleagues and families died as a result of what Pollard did. I heard 2500 (including family members) back in 1991. These were CIA assets and NOC agents.

    • unless you believe ex parte memoranda heavy on unproven allegations not shown to defense counsel should be the basis for sentencing.

      "unproven allegations?" Made up out of whole cloth. You have no idea what was in the memo. We have other people who have confided in reporters telling us. It was identified as a national security memo to the Judge at the time because Weinberger wanted the death sentence.

      Former UPI Intel reporter Richard Sale wrote on October 2, 2010 Pollard 2 – A Brief Comment Richard Sale

      I was quite taken aback by the posted comment that “Pollard's defense claims Weinberger made a statement before his death that The Pollard Affair was a relatively minor matter.”

      I talked with Weinberger, who was up at his residence in Maine, over a period of years until just before his death. I won’t quote him, but his reaction to Pollard’s treason was consistently one of implacable outrage. Let me add that anyone who would believe the declaration of a defense attorney about anything appears to be someone who suffers from the disease of mental gullibility. If a defense attorney told me the time I would immediately look at my watch.

      Former senior DOD and CIA officials told me that Weinberger gave a secret statement to the court, before Pollard’s sentencing, that detailed the trading of stolen US data to the Soviet Union and the extent of the damage that trading had caused.

    • Not to mention giving a face to the dual loyalty charge that actually harmed the US and its citizens, and killed hundreds of its national security assets.

    • @Yitzgood,

      You weren't alive in the mid-80s when this happened or you were in kindergarten? Scroll up and read the Allan C Brownfeld article I link to and educate yourself.

    • JeffB, Israel put 13 nukes into service during the Yom Kippur War (one at Egypt, another at Damascus) and was threatening Russia. That's why Kissinger had to fly to Moscow the weekend of Oct. 20, 1973--the same day as the Saturday Night Massacre--to get Brezhnev down off the wall, and Russian nukes out of the Bosporous.

    • He's not eligible for parole. The laws at the time he was sentenced allowed time off for good behavior. They got rid of that law because of Pollard.

    • There is no evidence Pollard thought he was giving secrets to the Soviet enemy but rather to an American ally and friend.

      Baloney. He was selling info to Pakistan, South Africa, and one other country before he even approached Israel.

    • They are savaging the administration, it’s 99-1 against the release of Pollard.

      And well they should. Read Allan C. Brownfeld's 1998 article, The Strange Campaign to Secure the Release of Convicted Spy Jonathan Jay Pollard

      So damaging to U.S. security was Pollard’s role that Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger told Israeli Ambassador Meir Rosenne in 1987 that Pollard should be executed. Joseph di Genova, the prosecutor who handled the Pollard case, said that the damage he did to U.S. security was “beyond calculation.” [...] In an affidavit, Secretary Weinberger said: “It is difficult for me, even in the so-called year of the spy, to conceive of a greater harm to national security than that caused by the defendant in view of the breadth, the critical importance to the U.S. and the high sensitivity of the information he sold to Israel.”
      [...]

      The U.S. government said that the damage resulting from Pollard’s spying exceeds that caused by Ronald W. Pelton, a former NSA employee, who was convicted in 1986 of selling classified electronic surveillance secrets to the Soviet Union.

      [...]

      Ronald Pelton was sentenced to three life terms plus 10 years for selling secrets to the Soviet Union about electronic eavesdropping that he learned in 14 years as an NSA technician. A memorandum prepared by U.S. government prosecutors Leeper and David Geneson said: “Pelton disclosed no classified documents to the Soviet Union. Rather, following his retirement, he met with Soviet agents on approximately nine occasions over a five-year period during which he orally relayed classified information he could recall.”

      Pollard, on the other hand, delivered a 6' x 6' x 10' cube of highly classified documents that contained--and this is only what was being admitted to at the time--our global nuclear missile sites, launch codes, NATO missiles sites, our complete nuclear defense plan, the names of all CIA assets behind the Iron Curtain, and our NOC agents.

      You want him to go to Israel? Send him there in a pine box.

      Just for the record, Brownfeld notes:

      Rear Admiral Sumner Shapiro [Jewish], U.S. Navy (Ret.), who was director of naval intelligence when Pollard began his work with that organization, sharply criticizes those Jewish groups seeking his release.

  • Pollard was in it for money, and sold so many dox Cap Weinberger wanted the death penalty
    • Pollard is not up for parole. Because of a law in place when he was sentenced, since removed from the books, he can get off early for good behavior. Has nothing to do with parole.

    • giladg, bullshit.

    • Donald, tens of hundreds of US assets died, and their families. This was the greatest breach of US security and intelligence in the country's history, according to quiet reports in the early 1990s. George Tenet threatened to resign if Clinton pardoned him, and with him the top level of the CIA. Caspar Weinberg went apoplectic at the mention of his name even in retirement (google Richard Sale's excellent report on this) long after Weinberg begged the court to issue the death penalty in a still-classified 58-page brief of the damage he did to this country. Four former directors of Naval Intelligence wrote an op-ed in the Washington Post in the late 90s that the US releases Pollard at its peril.

      In short, you have no idea, no clue what you're talking about, with all due respect. I gave some links to the history of it in the comments here.

    • Pollard worked for Naval Intelligence. Here are four former past directors of Naval Intelligence, William Studeman, Sumner Shapiro, John L. Butts and Thomas Brooks in an editorial in the Washington Post on December 12, 1998.
      link to tinyurl.com

      "Release Pollard At the Nation's Peril"

      "Jonathan Pollard is serving a life sentence for stealing massive amounts of highly classified and extremely sensitive U.S. national security information. In terms of sheer volume of sensitive information betrayed, [Note: the volume of documents was 10' x 10'] Jonathan Pollard rivals any of the traitors who have plagued this nation in recent times. Nobody is clamoring for the release of traitors like Aldrich Ames, John Walker or Jerry Whitworth, but Pollard, by manipulating his supporters and conducting a clever public relations campaign both here and in Israel, has managed to generate a small but vocal movement advocating that he be released and allowed to emigrate to Israel, where he expects to be something of a national hero.

      We, who are painfully familiar with the case, feel obligated to go on record with the facts regarding Pollard in order to dispel the myths that have arisen from this clever public relations campaign aimed at transforming Pollard from greedy, arrogant betrayer of the American national trust into Pollard, committed Israeli patriot.

      Pollard pleaded guilty and therefore never was publicly tried. Thus, the American people never came to know that he offered classified information to three other countries before working for the Israelis and that he offered his services to a fourth country while he was spying for Israel. They also never came to understand that he was being very highly paid for his services -- including an impressive nest egg currently in foreign banks -- and was negotiating with his Israeli handlers for a raise as he was caught. So much for Jonathan Pollard, ideologue!"

      Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger begged the court for the death penalty. Dershowitz got that reduced to a life sentence if Israel would return the documents, which it never did.

      Both Pollard and Israel are traitors to the US. Don't even dare insert Snowden into this crime.

  • 'NYT' editorial writer savages Republicans for 'pro-Israel, philo-Semitic' curtseys to Adelson
    • I agree. Nothing brave, unusual, or savage about any of it. It's faux outrage after holding a wet finger to the air upon hearing Mark Levin went first.

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