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  • Let's talk about Russian influence
    • Phil,

      But enough about all that. Let’s talk about Russian influence.

      Before you do, may I suggest you do some research by listening to Professor Stephen F Cohen's Tuesday night radio braodcasts with John Batchelor on WABC 770 AM Radio, NYC. Usually 10 PM your time. Anyone can listen online in real time. The Podcasts are available the next day here.

      On Cohen's page on audio boom: link to audioboom.com, the broadcasts marked in the playlists at the bottom of the page are some of Cohen's greatest hits over the last 8-9 months.

      Stephen Cohen is, as you probably know, Katrina vanden Heuvel's husband. (For overseas readers here, Katrina vanden Heuvel is publisher and editor-in-chief of The Nation, the pre-eminent progessive magazine in the country.) He speaks fluent Russian, taught Russian history at Princeton and NYU, and lived in Russia with Katrina at some point before they had kids.

      His analysis is superb. I warn you, however, he has no use for Obama admin foreign policies (excoriates Power and Rice), is highly disdainful of Hillary's foreign policy chops and her suitability to be head of state without dragging this nation into WWIII. He has high praise for what he calls Trump's "sanity" in foreign policy thinking, although he points out that "every member of my family" oppose "what I say" about Trump. Cohen gives detailed reasons for his objections. He has also decimated the NYT and many of the characters you list above for their reporting, translations (of Putin's words), knowledge of history and diplomacy, and fitness as professionals.

      John Batchelor has been doing these broadcast hours with Cohen for three years. Nielsen reported that Cohen's "off-the-charts" ratings on Batchelor's show raised the show's overall rankings. I have my calendar bookmarked so that I don't miss one of them. No doubt NYC cabbies are tuned into him.

  • Palestinian anti-racist struggle against Zionism and Black anti-racist struggle against White supremacy are crucial to building a just world
    • At the risk of being too blunt, you have to a special kind of stupid to believe that the Israel’s existence is about establishing a Jewish authority over Palestine

      I'd have to be a special kind of stupid to believe otherwise. Then what the fuck are you doing to Palestinians?

    • silamcuz,

      Weasel answer. You didn't answer Annie's questions.

    • I don't buy this bullshit statement: "Black anti-racist struggle against White supremacy are crucial to building a just world."

      That's a ridick postulate I don't have the time or energy to explain. But White Supremacy is not the problem. It's a tired 20th C argument that succumbs to their jailers, like the current "white privilege" horseshit.

      I fault the popular now-maudlin American creation myth for Blacks. They weren't slaves. They were an enslaved people. They were brought over in chains. Formerly free people with a history and with magnificent pre-1500 AD accomplishments that drown any in the the entire history of the world, given the 700-800 years they did it in . . .if you bothered to read. (But you would have to read early 20th C accounts. Fat chance.)

      Why do you think Blacks were denied the right to learn how to read and write for their first 400 years in this country?

      Because they might discover who they were. And what they contributed to the history of mankind, now lost, now claimed (stolen) as white Christian European history.

      Whatever. Black Muslim Africans created European culture, and that is too much for 99% of Americans to bear hearing.

  • Reloading comments from April and May 2014
  • Iran deal is still imperilled by deep state-- hardliners, Israel lobby, Hillary Clinton
  • Jewish entitlement, and Jewish populism
    • So it’s not recording or storing all the archives which is either expensive or problematic, it is making the complete archives internet-accessible at all times which strains or overloads your current provider?
      Did you ever expect to have so much of it? It sure grew some.

      Uhhh, Mooser, a typical small e-commerce site has more data-access traffic than MW on any given day or in any week or month.

      All products and product photo shots (full-size and thumbnail) take up massively more storage space--just for starters--than a text-based site like MW does even with 10 years worth of comments.

      All products and photo shots are entered in a database, along with a text description. Typical for all product sites on the web, even your local web-based hardware or gardening store. This technology was perfected years ago. They plug in the coding module and customize it (they don’t re-invent the wheel).

      Accessing the data is a search function, and that tech is decades old; Google, Amazon, Yahoo, MySpace, WordPress, a lot of defunct companies, and the social media sites did the job of perfecting it for everyone.

      Furthermore, a relational database is like a series of closets. You open the door and take out what you want. In MW’s case, each commenter--the unique record--is one closet. Since the past (the archive) doesn’t change, nothing is being altered, just new stuff added. Big whoop.

    • Thank you, Adam.

      [I didn’t see your comments before replying today.]

    • as i think it may require lots of money or some kind of upgrade or something.

      Not a chance. Someone is being bamboozled. I PDF’d Hostage’s comments up until a couple of years ago--a few hundred PDF pages--and the total storage amount was 10 MB. That’s bupkes. Zero-insky.

      It was absolutely incumbent upon the tech guys to have redundant backup. That is what Phil and Adam pay for! Google’s Blogger app gives you better protection and backup. Can’t handle a leetle database? Gimme a fucking break. That’s like saying a a bicycle wheel can’t handle painted spokes.

      Phil and Adam signed off on certain blog features, and agreed to pay a certain price for them. And these techos can’t deliver all of a sudden in the middle of the night with no warning? As Jack Nicholson said, “Go sell stupid someplace else."

    • Wonderful solution: if Phil and Adam have the history, produce a DVD of them (a de minimus cost per when mass produced) and sell them for $25 to $50. An outfit near me produces DVDs for $2-$3 for self-publishing musicians, who are not flush with cash, and even mails out the orders for an additional fee...something under a dollar. They don’t produce all the DVDs at once. They are on an as-ordered basis. Headache-free for the musician.

      Use as a fund-raiser for phuck’s sake. So instead of costing money to repair this disaster, make money off what you’ve got. And those of us who want to can donate an extra copy or two to the local library.

    • Holocaust, Mooser? Never, not ever. Not in this century.

      An uncomfortable backlash against Jews? Might happen. Lots of triggers could stoke various groups. Although those leading the backlash wouldn’t call it uncomfortable; they would call it an expression of their rights. Danaa has written quite eloquently what happens to people when they aren’t listened to, when their opinions are denigrated and forced to submerge. Trump’s popularity is proof of that.

      A raging backlash against Jews, equal to what’s happening to Muslims in this country? Could. But what would spark it? It wouldn’t come out of left field.

    • Mooser,

      At that point, they became the property of Mondo, to either publish, discard, with no obligation to archive.

      You’re mixing apples and oranges. Mondoweiss makes no copyright claim on commenter entries. If it decides to discard and therefore not publish, its prerogative, of course it’s not going to archive.

      But that is not what I am saying. It has offered a database of comment archives by individual commenter for seven years. The initial five archive years have been erased. This year. Without notice. Most of us stupidly assumed they would be retained. And given current de minimus storage costs and settled developer code that can handle this easily, it makes no sense.

      I’m just a teensy bit appalled at the idea that Mondo might have an obligation to me. It don’t.

      I didn’t say Mondoweiss had an obligation to me. I said I and many others made contributions that are as valuable as the blog posts themselves. I’m offering to help pay to get them back.

      I’m saying that contributors like Hostage and others helped make this site extraordinarily valuable for the content of what they wrote. They increased the value of this site. Even the epic fights and from those who were eventually banned.

    • Bryan,

      He talked a good game in that youtube and spouted platitudes about what he thought the hoi polloi should have (education, child healthcare, fair taxes) but he had eight years in office to accomplish it, but didn't.

      I’m not going to go into macroeconomic possibilities and policies, but this guy had the power to effect those goals. He didn’t.

      He had time to get knowledgeable people to educate him about how the federal monetary system works, as opposed to the non-federal government private sector, but didn’t.

      The US federal government creates its on currency. The non-federal government private sector does not; it has to earn or borrow it from commercial banks or credit unions.

      The US federal government is not run like households, which have to pay back debts at interest on a strict time schedule after putting up collateral or a down payment. The US federal government has no such restriction. Obama doesn’t know that.

      The accountant and economist worker bees deep in the bowels of the US Treasury or Federal Reserve know this because they account for federal money issuance (misnamed ”public debt”) because it is recorded--'accounted for'--on the right side of the accounting ledger under Liabilities. Where else is it going to go? What the federal government is buying goes on the left under Assets, be it an airplane, federal government office supplies, or federal park maintenance workers.

      Obama’s definition of populism is out of touch with what the US populace is saying. He may come across to some as a great vision guy, but as Texas governor Greg Abbott wrote recently, “JFK wanted to send a man to the moon. Obama wants to send a man to the women’s restroom."

    • annie,

      Data overload or not, backups are on separate servers “offsite,” which means at another location. That’s what redundancy means.

      For example, Google has monster server sites in areas around its different centers. BUT. Their redundancy sites can be located--replicated- in lower-energy cost countries in South America, cooler European countries, or Australia or Canada. These site locations are not published for security reasons, and usually protected by armed gaurds. Ditto Amazon, which in addition to selling Orwellian amounts of stuff handles a staggering amount of the world’s cloud and server services for other companies, the majority of them wholesale providers.

    • More thoughtful Jews need to wrest the Jewish future away from the Aspen Ideas Festival, and remedy elitism with humility. That means cutting down the power of the lobby, and allowing Americans to wake to the persecution of Palestinians.

      Amen.

      We need to hear more Primo Levi voices from the American Jewish community, not these ignorant knee-jerk studs who are basically dual-loyaltists and who think popular American opinion can be derided without consequence. Dream on, freiers. Dream on.

      See the always thoughtful David Shasha’s excellent recent post here about the difference:
      Elie Wiesel and Primo Levi: A study in contrasts
      link to mondoweiss.net

    • OT, I apologize, but this concerns everyone who has ever contributed to this site, and it’s important. For example, we can’t reference previous comments made here about Leon Wieseltier, who Phil has covered before.

      Can we get an official explanation why the 5-6 years of comments have been summarily removed from mondoweiss.net?

      This was done without prior notice to anyone. Why? How did this happen? Some of us have invested over 10 years of our lives and time contributing to this community. This was a tremendous time (and monetary) commitment no matter what anyone thinks of the value of what I contributed.

      A few years ago, I preserved all my comments up to that time via PDF. A feature of Acrobat Pro allows a word-count. It was 1.85 million words then—nearly three years worth at the time—the equivalent of 18-100,000-word (eighteen 400-page) books.

      Over the years commenters have contributed vital, important, thoughtful, and historically important comments. All that’s lost. All of Hostage’s VIP historical posts and references vanished! Shmuel’s comments gone. Ditto seafoid and shingo and Blankfort. Taxi. annie. Ari. American. Citizen. gamal. Slater. Danaa. Etc. These commenters made this site. So did Mooser. It’s a two-way street.

      Please don’t tell me it was some technical difficulty. Every American server company has redundancy, and multiple backups, or it won’t last in business longer than 24 hours, much less escape the wrath of the law. This ain’t 1995. It’s impossible to get rid of web content these days without an express executive decision to erase it. Ask Hillary.

      mondoweiss.net (registered with godaddy.com, does it webhost as well?) changed servers in August 2015, according to the status tab here. Whoever made that change made full multiple backups of the site, and made sure that all previous content was carried over and worked technically. So the current arbitrary cutoff date of the summer of 2014 doesn’t make sense.

      And it doesn’t make sense that blog posts from 2006-2014 are preserved but not the comments attached to them.

      Comment archives accessible by individual commenters started here in late July 2009, however. Digital advances and pennies per Gig storage costs in the aughts (2000s) made the Mondoweiss site decision to provide them a pedestrian choice. We have all counted on it since then.

      I think we’re owed an explanation. And, ideally, an explanation of any effort being made to get them back. Some of us would pay to get our histories back. They’re lurking out there in toto somewhere. And given standard server-company practice not to permanently remove backups for 6-24 months--even after sites go down--they are still recoverable, because of legal federal government retention requirements.

      Please note: Server-companies do not know what is contained in an individual site’s content, but federal laws now mandate retention, security, and preservation of certain private-firm medical and legal records. Failure to do so is costly and against federal law. All court submissions to federal courts must now be electronic. Therefore if a server-company has one private law firm or medical company--or mortgage banker--on its servers, they have blanket backup retention rules for the whole shebang to accommodate its federal legal requirements, even after a firm goes out of business, which allows time for someone in charge to download and preserve them.

       
      Please respond. Thank you.

  • 'NY Jewish Week' speaks bluntly of 'Israel firsters' in US politics
    • “I was thinking of my aliyah experience, in relation to others that moved to Israel. Now as a citizen, of both the US and Israel; I think much of the politics of the Middle East”

      Raphael is lucky. He’s alive. Many, many, many , Palestinian kids are not.

    • The guy who fired Phil at The Observer is his son-in-law, and wrote his 2016 AIPAC speech.

    • vidal’s rhetoric included ugly jew hatred unrelated to israel as well

      Just as ugly as what Israelis and Israel-Firsters write and say about Palestinians today. So what’s your point?

  • Michael Oren, historian, gets US history wrong to score a propaganda point
    • Michael Oren, historian, gets US history wrong to score a propaganda point

      Ah, the kindness of words.

      Let’s call it what it is. He lied. The intention was manipulation.

  • Netanyahu agonistes
    • Thanks for the reply, Yakov; goes without saying you could be standing by my right elbow speaking for me. (But then, you play poker and train dogs, my two loves.) Pixie complimented your writing. I compliment your insightful and clear thinking, which always produces great writers.

    • Yakov,

      How many officials and leaders saw what I saw when I watched Netanyahu at the Congressional hearing on the Iraq war in 2002: That everything out of his mouth was total bullshit. All he was interested in was saying whatever it took to make an American attack on Iraq more likely. Is there anyone else in the world who can show such a contempt for Congress? And the fact that you’re not allowed to even point this out in the United States– is that Orwellian or Kafkaesque or both? Because Netanyahu had the support of scurrilous American Jewish writers, and Jewish machers too, in foisting his views on us.

      You’re Jewish. Imagine what it was like for a Gentile to express what you perceived in 2002 . . . . in 2002.

  • Dennis Ross tells American Jews, 'We need to be advocates for Israel' -- and not for Palestinians
    • @Mooser,

      Col. Lang? I pity the fool who tries that!

      No shit. :-)

    • Gamal,

      Maybe you should go over there and counter him. maybe it was inartfully said from your POV, but in all Lang’s short posts over the years, I’ve found him to be particularly sympathetic to Arabic culture except when he criticizes Saudi Arabia devastating Yemen. He is forever correcting people’s Islamophobia. I didn’t read it the way you did. I gotta get to the airport!!!
      link to turcopolier.typepad.com

      And he not gracious about how the Israelis treat the Palestinians.

    • Shmuel,

      With all due respect to Col. Lang, he would do well to leave “the Arab mind” talk to the likes of Daniel Pipes and Martin Kramer.

      Uhh. He was trying to convince Ross that he wasn’t operating with both barrels. As Lang’s other comments have shown, he doesn’t have much respect for Ross’s representation of the United States, nor his ability to recognize US national interests.

      As Powell’s Chief of Staff Lawrence Wilkerson has said a few times on The Real News Network, you didn’t get to be a US Military officer before 2000 without an advanced university education. (Let’s put aside the ‘Perfumed Princes’, Generals etc. who decided to play the political/civilian game instead and transgressed their military role for their material benefit.) I’m partial to military men who speak plainly, know what they are talking about because they’ve lived it, and remain realists. And that includes the Israeli high command. Say what you will about Meir Dagan, who scorned Americans, and everything about us. But he represented his country and its interests well. And he did it plainly and realistically.

    • Gamal and, I asssume, Shmuel,

      For the record, Colonel Lang speaks, reads, and write Arabic. Taught it at West Point where he created all instructional programs in the Arabic Language and Middle East Studies 40 years ago for the US Military. He lived in North Yemen and Saudi Arabia for eight years. (He has seemed particularly sympathetic to the Yemenis in Saudi Arabia’s latest attacks on them, and has written fondly of the tribes and military personnel he lived among.)

      Jeremy Schall used Lang as a major source in his book Dirty Wars. Scahill’s partial description of him here is more colorful:

      Colonel Walter Patrick Lang spent much of his military career in dark ops. Early in his army service, he helped coordinate the operation that led to the capture and killing of Che Guevara in Bolivia in 1967. He was a member of the Studies and Observation Group, SOG, which ran the targeted killing campaign for the United States during the Vietnam War, and eventually became the head of the secret Defense Intelligence Agency global human intelligence program. He was posted in Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and other hot spots around the globe. Lang also started the Arabic-language program at the West Point Military Academy. Throughout his career, he watched closely as the United States created this new special ops capability. The principal role of the “vanilla” Special Forces, like the Green Berets, was “training and leading indigenous forces, usually irregular forces against either regular forces or guerrilla forces. That’s what they do, so they’re attuned to foreigners. They seek to find people who are empathic, who work well with foreigners. Who like to sit around and eat with their right hand out of a common bowl bits of stringy old goat. And listen to somebody’s gramma talk about the baloney, fictional ancestry of the tribe. They like to do that.” Lang likened Green Berets to “armed anthropologists.” JSOC, he said, was envisioned as “a counterterrorist commando outfit modeled on the British SAS [Special Air Service]. And the SAS does not do ‘let’s get happy with the natives’ stuff. They don’t do that. They’re commandos, they kill the natives. These people are not very well educated about the larger picture of the effect that [their operations] have on the position of the United States in the world.” [MRW: Lang means JSOC, Joint Special Operations Command, which Scahill then discusses at some length.]

      Scahill, Jeremy (2013-04-23). Dirty Wars: The World Is a Battlefield (pp. 49-50). Nation Books. Kindle Edition.

      (For those of you old enough to remember the hit TV show The A-Team, the cigar-chomping team leader played by George Peppard was based on Pat Lang. Lang ran MACVSOG for two years.)

      “Stupidity,” Gamal, is not one of Lang’s strong suits.

    • Annie,

      Read this Colonel Lang anecdote about Dennis Ross: And the scales fell from his eyes ...
      link to turcopolier.typepad.com

      Ross has no business being within 10 miles of the State Dept. representing America...and us. Not only because he doesn’t represent us--which he does not--but because he doesn’t have the basic chops to be an effective State Department foreign service officer as Lang story details. Lang, it should be remembered, was Military Liaison between the US and Israel for what? Ten years? His assessment is not merely anecdotal; it’s informed.

  • By stressing accused Orlando shooter's Muslim name, Trump can gain upper hand on Clinton -- Michael Oren
    • The PLO was co-founded by a Christian.

    • First reaction of blog journalist Weiss in aftermath of disaster: condemn oren in your headline.

      Why not? Oren needs to keep his nose out of American politics. He’s an Israeli citizen. His opinion is immaterial. Just Israel trying to wiggle its fat butt in where it isn’t welcome and make it about herself.

    • But they’ll get their panties in a knot over a Mexican flag.

    • Sadness, horror, gloom, outrage, fear, resolve are among the emotions being expressed by Americans today,

      For 50 dead. When are we going to express that level of compassion and empathy and sorrow for the hundreds of thousands we slaughtered overseas, needlessly, over the last 15 years? Needlessly. Creating the same hole in the heart of families who lost their sons this morning.

      Our moral relativism makes me sick.

      And we have the gall to sit around with our thumbs in our bum and our brains in neutral wondering why all this is happening to us? The LGBT issue wouldn’t even be an issue if we, as a nation, had an ounce of moral character and fortitude. It would be woven into who we are. Equal rights. Period. End of story. But right now we’re a bunch of brazen lyin’ pussies who wail worse than the Israelis at attacks we think unfair, who lie to ourselves worse than the Israelis lie to us about why some killing event is so horrendous but our own actions had nothing to do with it, and who, like the Israelis, bullshit their superiority when it doesn’t exist. We’re both morally vacant, and opportunistically so.

  • Whistleblower: US General Sean Swindell bears responsibility for deadly Kunduz hospital attack
  • Hillary Clinton supported Iraq war because of Israel, say Matthews and Landler
    • @Bandolero,

      I didn’t read it that way. I don’t think he made a case for us to be the world’s hegemon. I thought he was talking about maintaining our status as a reliable global power via acting in our own interests for once. Hegemon is a thing distinct from global power. Russia is a global power, for example, so is Britain.

      And nowhere did I read that he supported the abandonment of the Sykes-Picot borders. Instead, he said our ill-advised foray into Iraq produced cracks in them, and is leading all sorts of other groups—Kurdish, Alawite, Salafi, Shiite, Houthi—to attempt to replace them, which he says won’t succeed.

      I thought Freeman was a lot more nuanced than you give him credit for, but to each his own.

    • our senior journalists don’t have the courage or character. So forget that.

    • Everyone, read Chas Freeman’s speech last week:

      America’s Continuing Misadventures in the Middle East
      link to chasfreeman.net

      He withers Clinton.

  • US Jews adopted 'deferential' relationship to Israel, and tabooed dissent so as to preserve US gov't support
    • "big-Zion” = Zbig? ;-)

    • Phil,

      Anti-Semitism preserved that outsider status; and many Jews collected evidence of anti-Semitism with the goal of preserving the ghetto walls.

      Astute comment. I’ve been accused every once in a while of being an anti-semite around these parts over the past decade for things I’ve written, and I’ve taken on the task of mocking the newbie trolls who think invoking it in a kamikaze swipe against regular Mondoweiss commenters is going to have any effect. (Latest being the week old newbie “hoya saxa” on another thread.)

      Your image of "preserving the ghetto walls” is so apt. Because that’s exactly what American Gentiles I hang out with don’t get about perceived Jewish Israel/Holocaust/Zionist passive-aggressive insanity. ’You bitched about being pitched into ghettos for centuries but when America says We Get It, You Don’t Have To Worry About That Here, You’re One Of Us’, we get body-slammed and lose our careers and reputations for treating you as regular Americans’. We only have to look at the slurs flying around the political landscape these days to get a flavor for quintessential American to-and-fro when revved up for taking on one of our own. But you’re suddenly hothouse flowers who can’t stand criticism or bear a cold eye. The broader Jewish community—not the Israel-First crowd—remains silent when the blanket treatment once visited upon Jews is now visited upon Muslims as a group, as if it’s proper and allowable (MW excepted). And the unthinking and uneducated among America’s hoi polloi go along with it precisely because Jewish leaders haven’t put a stop to it, which they can. Abe Foxman (or Jeffrey Goldberg) rolling in with a Casablanca moment (“I’m shocked, shocked”) after the damage has been done is too little too late, and transparently cynical.

      Gentiles are catching on. The one thing, whether it really exists or not, is an American sense of fairness that permeates the thread of life here. It’s the one argument you can bring up in any discussion of wrongs and rights, and it gives pause. Nothing else does. It caused 11 Christian church groups to petition Congress in 2011. It’s stamped into the Millennial worldview as a generational edict. It works at the family dinner table when someone has his jackboots on and jumping on everyone’s neck.

      I think you capture the zeitgeist. I thought this was a great article.

  • On Holocaust Remembrance Day, NPR promotes Israeli army but Obama takes a pass
    • @hoya saxa,

      pass on some more classic antisemitic tropes. [...] Even if that means violating the US dept of state definition of antisemite.

      Violating the US dept of state definition of antisemite?” What violation?

      This is the United States of America, bub. We have a First Amendment. People are free to dislike who they want and express it. People can hate Jews, Japs, and Jains here all they want as long as they aren’t inciting violence. Enshrined in a 1977 US Supreme Court case known as the Skokie case. Allowed the Nazis to assemble and parade around in their Hitler gear with swastikas upsetting the six Holocaust survivors who lived in the town. Even the ACLU took up their right to do it. It’s the law of the land.

      I don’t know what country you’re from, but in this country, the State Dept does not write the laws of the land. The State Dept could declare only Christian thought is allowed inside embassies, and everyone here would tell them to pound sand. So get off your prissy stool and put your wag-wag-wagging finger down by your side.

      You’re a newbie here at Mondoweiss. Start showing some respect. Many of us have been around here for over 10 years.

  • Saying Israel has no right to exist as a Jewish state is not anti-Semitic
  • Sy Hersh's 'forbidden statement': Sanders's liberation from NY Jewish money could change US foreign policy
    • That’s because Sanders does not know and no one on his team knows that the 1992 Ukraine Constitution gave Crimea the legal right to decide its own future. (Obama’s national security infants don’t know this either.)

      The new Constitution written in the aftermath of the fall of the USSR, granted Crimea effective independence within Ukraine and the legal right to determine its own path and relations with others, including whether it wanted to stay with the Ukraine or return to Russian rule. The decision would be made by referendum, which Crimea exercised in March 2014. Legally.

    • However he went on a bit about Bernie not demonstrating enough knowledge about foreign policy to make him feel “comfortable” or something like that.

      I agree completely with him. Sanders isn’t ready for primetime when it comes to foreign policy. His attitude towards Russia and his backing of the sanctions against that country are alarming.

  • Trump and the war for 'Western Values'
    • Bandolero April 30, 2016, 9:44 pm,

      I agree with your billiards analogy. I found Trump’s foreign policy speech far, far saner than the neocon-driven caterwauling about it, and the frenetic neocon-driven organizing against him. Further, Trump said things that Sanders should have been saying. The President’s job is foreign policy; it’s his bailiwick as Head of State. I was relieved to hear his stance on NATO, which is dancing dangerously close to provoking war with its unnecessary encroachment on Russia.

      I’m remaining circumspect, however. I was completely duped by Obama, and didn’t see the signs then--or refused to see them. I campaigned for him like a fanatic. I was dead wrong. So perhaps my judgment is just as poor now.

  • Jeffrey Goldberg terrorizes peers into silence over his daily intellectual and moral outrages
    • WH,

      I’m perfectly aware of Brzezinski’s part in the Grand Chess Game with Carter, but it wasn’t a bigtime operation in 1979 and they only allotted $5 million to it initially. That’s 25% of what the govt spends on funding OSHA training grants every year.

      It was Charlie Wilson who got the funds bumped up during the election campaign in 1980, just before Reagan got in, and in the succeeding 9 years, multiple times. The Reaganites were inspired that the Mujahideen were hitting Russian planes with their second-hand shoulder-to-plane missiles and ramped the whole thing up. All of this is documented in George Crile’s book, Charlie Wilson's War: The Extraordinary Story of the Largest Covert Operation in History. (They made the movie from it.)

      The 'atrocious warlords' like Hekmatyar and Mojadeddi were tribal leaders running their tribal soldiers in the valleys and hills. Who else were they supposed to fund? Funding guerrillas was the point. It was the Cold War, and getting the Ruskies was all that mattered to the US, even if it meant sleeping with the enemy. The US has never been very good at studying the consequences. The ISI has always acted like CIA-East. It was they who approached the Mujahideen to help contain what they perceived as a serious Soviet threat along their entire northern border.

    • Regurgitev.

      Brilliant.

    • Well, Yakov, you galloped through that and I gladly followed. What was delicious is that you started at their assholes and worked your way to their mouths. What a ride.

    • Urban legend, and part of the neocon effort to demonize Carter. It was Texas Congressman Charlie Wilson in Reagan’s second term who took it to the level you ascribe to Carter. Look it up.

  • Norman Finkelstein on Sanders, the first intifada, BDS, and ten years of unemployment
    • @Danaa,

      If you’ve never heard him before, this one might interest you: link to audioboom.com

    • @Keith,

      The New Silk Road is a pipe dream which will never be completed and which probably shouldn’t be.

      Don’t count on it.

      @Danaa,

      Are you listening to Stephen Cohen’s reports on the John Batchelor Show? It’s http://johnbatchelorshow.com. (He usually appears for an hour every Tuesday night, although he’s been MIA for the past two weeks.)

      You should. Enlightening. There is a fabulous archive that you can listen to while feeding the cats or cleaning up.

      EDIT: Here’s a page of past broadcasts. Search for Stephen Cohen’s name here:
      link to audioboom.com

    • False equivalency.

    • A smart guy, mired in the past.

      A smart guy who deserved far, far, far better than he got at dePaul. He was robbed of his reputation and his future by gutless wonder fellow academics with the nobility and character of gnats. He was denuded of something he loved and he was great at: teaching. Finkelstein was wronged on so many levels. He was destroyed by that immoral and despicable (to me) asshole-pig Dershowitz.

      He isn’t mired in the past. He was strapped onto a backward-thinking rocket and propelled in it. And unforgivable.

      Tell me the prominent Jews who came to his defense. None.

      EDIT: I have my intellectual differences with Finkelstein, but the immorality of happened to him is indisputable.

    • I mean, is this Rushkoff character your go-to-guy when it comes to deep insights into Judaism??

      Get off your horsie and take off your spurs. Put the bag of quarters down. The diversion ain’t workin’.

    • @Sibiriak,

      Why were you hurriedly searching for this nutty Rushkoff vid???

      (1) Are your serious? We source things around here.

      (2) Because Finkelstein’s comments on nation states are as loony and elitist, not to mention as disturbing and mean, as Rushkoff’s. And I never forgot Rushkoff’s comments.

    • @Danaa,

      (2) While he has certainly plowed deeply into israel’s misdeeds over the years, he still does not comprehend the israeli psyche on both a collective and individual level. . . .even as the psychologist reaches frantically for some behavior-modifying pills.

      The core of it. Until this is understood--and accepted--there is no rational way to resolve anything. Yeah, yeah, I recognize there are "give or take a few 10’s of 1000’s” who don’t fit the mold.

      But Americans are in lah-lah land. They tell themselves tales straight out of Mother Goose to justify what they’re refusing to see misbehaving right in front of their eyes. (Roll in all the usual suspects of demonizing labels they fear will attach to themselves if they tell it like it is, Pretzel Psychology.)

    • Sibiriak,

      Oh spare me the bash-me-for-the-messenger bs with the white supremacist shit. I searched for a copy on youtube in a hurry this AM. I had downloaded the original vid in 2009, of which this was a small part. But I didn’t have a link. I keep original links now, not then. The original vid was about the singer Matisyahu, the Jewish orthodox reggae singer, and a concert somewhere in Brooklyn. Rushkoff’s bit was at the beginning of it. (My niece was designing the poster for one of Matisyahu’s concerts.)

      I have no clue what "podblanc.com white now” is, nor do I care; moreover, it’s unimportant. White supremacists have a new enemy in my neck of the woods: Muslims.

    • Rather than return to the perilous pre-globalization system by bringing the economy into line with the states system, we need to create a counterweight and eventually substitute for corporate globalization at the world level.

      Why?

      Nation states are nothing more than a community of people who agree to live together according to their definition of rules and regs, and their willingness to accept a communal social contract. What’s wrong with that?

      They’re no different than neighborhoods writ large. Some people want to live ‘with their own kind’. Why shouldn’t they be allowed to? Whether they can manage it economically is up to them. We, as Americans, preferred that social contract to be governed by a system of laws in which all are assumed to be equal (yeah, I know . . .).

      Consciousness can be global, but global governance is a pipedream and foolish. Not to mention dangerous and enslaving; it makes a mockery of a decisive vote and participatory citizenship. The only counterweight worth developing is spiritual awareness of others’ differentness and the tolerance to adjust to it.

    • I agree, Keith.

      Finkelstein:

      “If I had my way, I would abolish all states.”

      “At this point in time, states are totally irrational.”

      “All the major challenges currently confronting humanity [...] can only be solved on a global level.”

      Finkelstein isn’t the only one spouting this arrogance. Listen to Douglas Rushkoff say the same thing in 2009 in one of the most obnoxious and revealing off-hand comments that takes your breath away. The thing that makes judaism dangerous: Douglas Rushkoff.

      “The thing that makes Judaism dangerous to everybody, to every race, to every nation, to every idea is that we smash things that aren’t true. We don’t believe in the boundaries of nation-state, we don’t believe in the idea of these individual god’s that protect individual groups of people.

      This are all artificial constructions and Judaism really teaches us how to see that. In a sense our detractors have us right in that we are a corrosive force, that we are breaking down the false god’s of all nations and all people because they are not real. And that is very upsetting to people."

      Riight. Jews wants to destroy other people’s states and gods and traditions, but God forbid anyone try to destroy the state of Israel; that’s a world catastrophe. Moreover, it’s the justification for destroying another people, killing their children, and robbing their land.

      ”... breaking down the false god’s of all nations and all people because they are not real"? But Judaism's is?

  • Sanders's leftwing base made him take on Netanyahu
    • Israeli ambassador briefed Trump's son-in-law ahead of AIPAC speech
      link to haaretz.com

      Israeli ambassador briefed Trump's son-in-law ahead of AIPAC speech

      Netanyahu's confidant Ron Dermer discussed diplomatic and security policy with Jared Kushner, who wrote Trump's speech, ahead of the conference.
      By Barak Ravid | Apr. 17, 2016 | 12:51 PM | 7

      Those listening to U.S. Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump's speech at the AIPAC conference in March may have found themselves puzzled as to the identity of the speaker. Large portions of the speech, especially those having to do with Iran and the Palestinians, sounded like they were taken verbatim from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's talking point sheet.

      An article published by Reuters recently may have revealed why that is. It turns out that a few days before the conference Israel's ambassador to Washington, Ron Dermer, spoke on the phone with Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner, who wrote that speech. In their telephone conversation, Dermer briefed Kushner on the Netanyahu government's stance on current diplomatic and security issues.

      A source at the Israeli embassy in Washington confirmed that this phone call did in fact take place, adding that "The ambassador spoke to the people of all the leading presidential candidates."

      Kushner, an Orthodox Jew, is married to Trump's daughter Ivanka Trump. He has been involved with the Trump campaign's connection to Israel even before writing the speech. It was he who worked on organizing Trumps visit in Israel, which was supposed to take place in December. The visit was canceled last minute after the candidate's comments on Muslim immigration to the U.S. were harshly criticized in Jerusalem, including a critical statement issued by the prime minister.

      On Thursday, during a question-and-answer session with Jewish journalists in New york, Trump commented on the incident, saying that he was "disappointed" with Netanyahu's response. According to the Jewish Insider Trump said that Netanyahu's response was less positive than what he hoped and he decided to cancel the visit.

      “I like him. I have always liked him,” Trump said on Netanyahu. “I was disappointed in his statement. He didn’t say, ‘Don’t come.’ In fact, it was the opposite. But I didn’t like his statement. That wasn’t necessarily the reason I didn’t go, but I didn’t like his statement.”

  • Trump abandons 'neutral' Israel position, Sanders adopts it
    • His reversal on neutrality seemed pretty complete to me

      You sure? He just read what his son-in-law wrote. Big whoop.

  • Trump 'has no business being president' because he would be 'neutral' to Israel -- Clinton tells AIPAC
    • I’m listening to it right now, Kalithea, and cringing. However, Bernie won’t get in. Can’t stand Clinton, and are you going to tell me she’s better on Israel than this shit I’m listening to now, that she not a "FASCIST ZIONIST DICTATOR” as well? Cruz is a non-starter, a deal-breaker with me.

      Trump's rambling on about the Iran deal right now. Good fucking luck changing that, bubbaloo. But the hoi polloi doesn’t know that. He’s tossing red meat from the stage. How much of that he believes who knows. He probably thinks we gave $150 billion to Iran. Ha! It was Iran’s own money parked in its USD account at the Fed and the US VIOLATED the international agreement not to interfere with foreign country foreign reserve holdings.

    • Bring on the bully, whatever. I want Trump to win the goddam election. The citizen participation in government for the next four years--both pro and con, mad and happy--would be a sight to behold. And Fox News would be apoplectic as well. Oh, joy.

      If I had the money to waste or the inclination, I would send all the neocons a four-foot cube of Charmin [American toilet paper for you furriners] on Trump’s Inaugural Day and laff my ass off.

    • No. Spoken like an American. You pro-Israel types are tedious. And freeloaders.

  • 'NYT' columnist says Hillary Clinton is not pro-Israel enough!
    • I have a feeling that Trump is soon going to get the same message that H. Ross Perot did and drop out

      Your feeling is wrong, imo. Ain’t gonna' happen.

    • ‘NYT’ columnist says Hillary Clinton is not pro-Israel enough!

      I guess these einsteins haven’t figured out what happened, or is happening, in the US. and they’re counting on what the senior GOP official said, "We choose the nominee, not the voters." Guess they haven’t factored in a reaction.

      I said over five years ago here, America’s support for Israel is 3,000 miles wide and an inch deep, if that.

      Support for Israel is, among the hoi polloi who are not religious fanatics, in the same category as liking Levalor® Blinds, or thinking increasing ‘curb appeal’ helps get a better price for your house. . . . something you heard on TV and presented as a good idea.

      But I guess we wait until we hear from DT at AIPAC. If he has the balls to stick to his guns from before, we can expect more entertaining fireworks from out-of-touch Israeli-Americans who think their country matters more to Americans than America's own sons and daughters and grandkids who need jobs and charity to start at home.

    • Both. Combination of both.

  • In bid for Adelson's millions, Rubio announces braintrust of pro-Israel old-timers
  • Speak softly and act like a big dick
    • Awwww.

      Which site?

      This one? It doesn't target all ages. And if you’re complaining about obscene images, you’ll need to cover the eyes of every Israeli kid.

    • Oh, clutch the pearls!

      Jesus.

      Why didn’t they go after Rubio last week when he started it? Trump didn’t use the word penis (or dick). The press did. After the fact. And the nation falls for the Romney/Brooks’ puritanical “"Ummm. I’m telling God on you" moment, or expect us to be equally offended? Gimmeabrake.
      =========================================

      [What’s offensive is the multi-million slaughter or displacement of foreign innocents in the name of “our values” or “regime change” without the slightest outrage from the same pundit class.]

  • Romney echoes neocons: Trump will lead U.S. 'into the abyss'
  • As Trump takes on the neocons, Kristol likens him to Hitler
    • Trump’s Triumphs Demolish Netanyahu’s Fortress GOP Strategy By Chemi Shalev.
      The N.Y. tycoon is decimating the three legs of blanket Republican support for Israel: Evangelicals, Jews and interventionist hawks.
      link to haaretz.com

    • Open Letter on Donald Trump from GOP National Security Leaders
      link to voltairenet.org
      Take a look at the signers.

      Donald Trump advised by General Flynn
      link to voltairenet.org

      According to Reuters [1], General Michael T. Flynn, former director of the DIA, is advising Donald Trump, the candidate, in international politics.

      Mr. Trump, known for his sensational statements, refrained from punchy statements on foreign policy issues. He described President Putin as a "very respected man ".

      In 2012, General Flynn tried opposing the White House proposal to play the Daesh card in Iraq and Syria. He was abruptly admitted into retirement in August, 2014. On December 10, 2015, he participated at the side of President Putin, in the celebrations of the anniversary of Russia Today.

      The rest is here: link to reuters.com

    • Reporters who cover Christie said today on NPR that it is his standard "standing behind someone" face, that they had seen it many times before.

    • @Sycamores,

      i don’t think American foreign policy towards Israel has much to do with it.

      But an attempt by a foreign country to control American foreign policy does. And the hoi polloi got a whole lot smarter in the last three years. Reading comments on disparate blogs all over the web and in online papers tells you that in an instant. Monster change, and some real rage there. Even the NYT now allows comments that knock Israel and her influence on American wars: Iraq, Libya, Syria, and the push for Iran. They were probably overwhelmed. I’m sure the NYT deletes the majority of comments that complain about Israel.

      Krauss is right.

      The last knife in will be plunged by the liberal student base. These people have been educated on I/P. . . . They’ve seen the real Israel. . . . they can’t be bullied into silence.

      These students are telling their parents too. There are going to be 96 million Millennials of voting age this November. When they wake up to their power, watch out.

    • Oh, hophmi, give it a rest with the cheesy conflation of Phil with David Duke.

      And “Pat Buchanan, Phil’s old boss?” Where and when?

    • I second that, annie.

    • kalithea, I apologize. You were of course saying what I just wrote to you. You quoted Cohen~!! You were miles ahead of me. I didn’t click on The Nation link until just now.

    • You nail it, kalithea. And you’re pointing out exactly what Stephen Cohen says this week on his weekly Tuesday night radio appearance with John Batchelor. I link to it above but here it is again. You might enjoy it. If you don’t have the time, at least listen to the first 10 minutes.
      link to audioboom.com

      Cohen has a nice quiet lethal way of stripping the masks off Clinton, the MSM, and the neocons. At the end of one show in the last month, Cohen praised Trump as the only presidential candidate who understands the value of diplomacy in foreign affairs, and who understands the stakes with Russia that only a president can turn around (based on his constitutional job definition); he called the other candidates not ready for prime-time as president of the US. It sounded like an endorsement. It’s since been wiped and replaced with something else. Wouldn’t be too good for the husband of the publisher and managing editor of The Nation magazine to be heard backing Trump?

    • Thanks, echinococcus.

    • I think Trump is masterful. Two things.

      (1) Buzzfeed reported on an off-the-record recorded NYT editorial with Trump in December. The NYT won’t release it. Buzzfeed highlighted this about the contents of the recording,

      Gail Collins, one of the attendees at the meeting (which also included editor-in-chief Dean Baquet), floated a bit of speculation in her column:

      The most optimistic analysis of Trump as a presidential candidate is that he just doesn’t believe in positions, except the ones you adopt for strategic purposes when you’re making a deal.

      link to buzzfeed.com

      (2) Kent Clizbe, an ex-spy who outed Fox News’ Wayne Simmons in this week’s NYT Magazine, said this about his tradecraft.

      He [Kent] was sent to an island overseas, where he worked a day job unrelated to his real responsibilities. At night he recruited spies. His experiences in the Philippines, Malaysia and Saudi Arabia all came in handy.

      ‘‘You have to understand your target and immerse yourself in his or her culture and the context from which they come,’’ he said. ‘‘Do they have access to something of interest to you? Are they suitable to do what you want them to do? What are their motivations? What problems do they have that I can solve? Solve their problems, and they’ll become your best friend forever.’’

      From “The Plot to Take Down a Fox News Analyst” link to nytimes.com

      If anyone had read Trump’s “Art of The Deal” book, they would know his thoughts on strategy in deal-making. ;-)

      EDIT: I believe, and I have no data to back this up other than my observations, that Trump read the anger buried deep in the hoi polloi (manifesting as all sorts of ugly stuff, for sure, ugly to me at least) at the beginning of 2015--which included Netanyahu’s disgraceful and humiliating-to-us appearance before Congress--and knew how to rope ‘em.

    • Oh . . . And Sanders not going after Clinton’s foreign policy actions are what sealed it for Sanders. The only job the Prez has is foreign policy. Clinton is in the tank for the neocons, and Sanders has failed to call her on it. He’s toast.

    • Trump is karma coming back to kick neocons in the ass for the Iraq debacle

      True.

      But let me be more blunt: the American people are fed up with Israel dictating American foreign policy.

      Wanna’ know why Trump has arisen? Netanyahu’s hijacking of Congress in May 2011, and March, 2015. But it was the inopportune and contested March 2015 appearance that did it. The consequences of that March 2015 appearance have come home to roost. Trump announced his candidacy for the presidency three months later.

      But . . . no one was allowed to talk about it, right? (Except here.) Or the Izzy-Crazies will come out of the woodwork with accusations of anti-semitism, and ruin careers and livelihoods. Destroy patriotic Americans for speaking their minds? Don’t the Izzy-Crazies understand what they have done? The sight of 29 standing ovations, of Congress leaping to its feet to suck up to Jewish Donor money, pulsed a revulsion through this nation, and no one in the über world of NYC media understood it or were too afraid to acknowledge it because they didn’t want to wind up cashiered like Helen Thomas or the CNN guy.

      That suck-face behavior produced the Iraq War, allowed Goldman Sachs to escape its mis-behavior shorting the economy, Obama whitewashed it the instant he got into office, and yes, the country sees Goldman Sachs as ‘jewish bankers’. The Izzy-Crazies swing their dicks and piss on the American First Amendment, a religion in this country no matter what your political persuasion. The wars in Libya and Syria were neoconservative (Izzy-Crazy) constructs. The bullshit US position about Russia is a neoconservative (Izzy-Crazy) putsch.

      And Kristol wonders why Trump is ascendant? The missteps of the Israel-First crowd in DC and NYC are truly breathtaking. I’m debating whether to post this response because I don’t want to alert them.

      ============================
      Btw, OT. Listen to Stephen Cohen on his weekly appearance on the John Batchelor Show last night:
      link to audioboom.com

  • Neocon savages Christie for failing 'months and months of careful coaching' by foreign policy experts
    • As I noted oh the Trump thread, Christie got around that last week by saying this:

      “I heard some of Sen. Rubio’s comments this morning,” Christie said. “None of them were about the people of this country…[or] the fact that middle class folks in this country are suffering.”

    • My, my, my. The Goyim are revolting and saying they’re mad as hell and not going to take it anymore, and the hyperbolic hall-monitors are reporting them to the Principal with any accusation they hope will stick.

      I hope Trump wins. I hope he rips the face off this group of hooligans that have brought nothing but penury and grief to the majority of Americans who lost their jobs, their homes, their retirements, and now earn under $50Gs a year, or are working two jobs to survive and feed their kids. A completely forgotten majority segment of society while they debate foreign policy?

      CNN host Jake Tapper asked the DNC chair, “What do you tell voters who are new to the process who say this makes them feel like it’s all rigged?”

      “Unpledged [‘super’] delegates exist really to make sure that party leaders and elected officials don’t have to be in a position where they are running against grassroots activists,” Wasserman Schultz explained.
      link to salon.com

    • Don’t miss this article:
      "How to Watch Tuesday's Returns Like a Data Geek"
      link to realclearpolitics.com

  • Trump's refusal to name a 'good guy and a bad guy' in conflict is 'anti-Israel,' says Rubio
    • DaBakr,

      This is the Goyim Uprising that Phil said it would take to break the Israeli logjam.

      And it’s not even about Israel, although Podhoretz and Kristol can see the writing on the wall.

    • DaBakr,

      trump is scaring many americans. both on left and the right.

      Not according to the polls so far.

      poderhoretz is freaking out and i doubt its all about israel.

      AND.

      its the opposite of israelis who were too scared to elect anyone other then the status quo

      This is what’s giving Poderhoretz and Kristol diarrhea. He’s challenging their entrenched status quo, the one they thought they controlled stateside. Victoria Nuland and Robert Kagan must be having nightmares, investing in four-foot cubes of Charmin. Nuland is out if he wins the election. She would be bounced to Tahiti if she tried that Maidan shit under a Trump presidency, and probably publicly embarrassed as she bolted though the air.

      Speaking of that, none other than The Nation’s publisher Katrina vanden Heuvel’s husband, Russian historian and analyst Stephen Cohen, praised Trump on the John Batchelor Show a few weeks ago as the only candidate exhibiting a statesman’s understanding of the job with respect to Russia. Trump favors diplomacy.

      Under the US Constitution, the US prez is ultimately responsible for foreign affairs. It's his entire purview; it’s his job. He’s Head of State, unlike Netanyahu or Justin Trudeau. Unless a government action is a treaty, which requires passing a 2/3 Senate vote, a US President can make agreements with other countries without getting congressional approval (the latter’s ultimate duty is domestic). Separation of powers.

      Cohen and Batchelor reiterate weekly during Cohen’s Tuesday night stints (WABC-NYC Radio 9PM-1AM) that it is stunning how America’s so-called leaders--and candidates--throw around talk of nuking Russia, arming Ukraine, bombing this and that state willy-nilly, restarting the Cold War. All neocon campaigns that Clinton fell on her sword for as SecState. They both say that this would have been unheard of, absolutely unthinkable, in Reagan, Bush Sr., or Carter’s time. Cohen has zero respect for the Obama admin foreign policy initiatives; calls them subpar, juvenile, ignorant . . . and dangerous. Both Cohen and Batchelor view the nuclear escalation as ominous, and Obama’s positions as threatening global peace and security. They praise Putin’s restraint. The brilliant Cohen calls Putin the only “consequential statesman” and leader on the world stage today.

      So when I hear that Bernie is going to continue Obama’s position on Russia, I get scared. Ditto Madame Clinton. In terms of the one job function that a US President has final responsibility for, it’s easy to see that Trump is the sanest of the bunch in that regard. As for all the other red meat that Trump is throwing to the ravenous crowds, welcome to the Roman Coliseum, all of that is ultimately controlled by a functioning Congress. Maybe a Trump presidency will force them to do their job after three decades of intentional neglect and allowing themselves to be hijacked/controlled by the likes of Podhoretz and Kristol.

      The American people are waaay ahead of the NYC/DC press corps on this one. And those overpaid poobahs failed to read the country accurately for the last six years; they thought their viewers cared about social/quasi-religious issues so they stoked it for ratings. Surprise! Even Robert Murdoch is having apoplexy.

      I’m lovin’ it.

    • Someone explain to me: What is wrong with being anti-Israel?

    • Adelson hasn’t given Rubio any money yet. Rubio was expecting it last October. Hasn’t happened. In fact, Adelson hasn’t dished out any cash yet. To anyone. Rubio’s debate performance was Rubio genuflecting for dough. BTW, Adelson’s wife is pro-Cruz. Adelson is reported as pro-Rubio.

    • They don’t but don’t let that stop you.

      That’s why I always read major articles from the bottom up. Trick I was told about by some A-team quality NYT reporters decades ago. They said that on a major breaking story, they can’t control the lede; editorial slant prevails. Ditto heads.

      Try it sometime. You can walk away with a completely different POV. Especially if you do that first, then reread top down. I remember doing that with the NYT Grenada invasion report, right after I was told about this trick. Revelatory.

    • Say what you will about Christie, but he has one of the shrewdest political instincts in the biz, and every reporter who has ever covered him, no matter what their politics, will tell you so. Christie can smell political potted plants faster than a dog can smell dinner.

      Take a look at Christie's comment about Rubio this AM, published in HuffPo:

      "I heard some of Sen. Rubio's comments this morning," Christie said. "None of them were about the people of this country...[or] the fact that middle class folks in this country are suffering."

      link to huffingtonpost.com

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