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pabelmont

Retired. Married for 24 years to Palestinian-American, Quaker. Myself of Jewish descent, non-religious. Classical musician (cello). Run my own website, 123pab.com, for which I do all the programming (PHP, MYSQL). Favor an international intervention, as a "deus ex machina", to rescue Palestinians, Israelis, and USA from the tail-wags-the-dog AIPAC-et-alius. This probably means doing an end-run around USA's UNSC veto and doing more-or-less coordinated BDS at nation-state level. Non-Action on Global Warming is a far bigger threat to all the world than the 63-year non-action on Israel/Palestine. On this topic, I am truly hopeless: "I cry a tear for the soon to be late humanity."

Website: 123pab.com

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  • Jeffrey Goldberg has never faced 'pundit reckoning' for pushing Iraq war
    • citizen: Yes, Israel/AIPAC want USA to be an Israeli vassal. True indeed.

      But it is another and greater truth that the system called "neoliberalism" by which the USA and much of the world are ruled is a system rather like the old feudalism in which the mega-corporations are the overlords, the politicians and nations are the lesser lords (vassals), subservient to the overlords, and the people who live in the nations are nearly powerless serfs. This is where our money-driven elections have brought us. This is also what is codified in treaties such as TPP (written by and for mega-corporations, which the Senate is asked to enact without reading it, without hearing from expert witnesses other than from the corporations, etc.) Israel/AIPAC is one of the overlords in the USA and UK. What the people want (or would want if they were well informed) doesn't matter to the overlords or to the politicians, their vassals.

      Maybe, as to Israel/AIPAC, that is changing a bit recently, suggesting that the other overlords are collectively getting tired of Israel, but the system's been in place a long time and the feudal rules have long been set, so that the only question is whether BDS etc might shift public opinion enough to weaken the particular overlord known as Israel/AIPAC, The rest of the feudal system will remain in place. And since it elects to ignore climate change, climate change will go a lot farther in destroying the earth than it might have done had the feudal order responded quicker.

  • 'You have dual citizenship with Israel' -- NPR host hits Sanders with internet canard
    • glad the dual-loyalty THANG is out and labelled a canard.
      However, maybe that "canard" merely means that the MSM will not hereafter raisae it even when it is true (or truish).

  • Foxman bashes Israel for taking US and Jewish support for granted and not coming up with a peace plan
    • A seismic shift in the party-line? Has Mr. Foxman, foxy man that he is, just discovered that Israel was not busily trying to make peace? What's he been doing all these years? Maybe he has started eating a new breakfast cereal? Such insight all of a sudden! What a mensch!

  • The Peter Beinart Double Standard: Why is this boycott different from all other boycotts?
    • A further comment on Beinart's logic. He says that BDS seeks the end of the Jewish State. I think this is true in the sense that a fully implemented PRoR would flood Israel-48 with so many Palestinians (including refugees/exiles from Gaza and West Bank and Jordan, as I understand the matter) that Israel-48 would no longer have a large Jewish majority and perhaps no Jewish majority at all.

      I have long supported PRoR to Israel-48. The exiles should never have been deported, should have been citizens of Israel-48, as should have been their children. In my view (not Beinart's view), no-one had a right to insert a Jewish (or any other) state into Palestine so as to displace the then-current residents.

      But back to Beinart. He doesn't support an effective boycott (targeted at all Israel) but only a symbolic one (targeted at OPTs). But both boycotts are BDS and have the same goals. And those goals include an end of a "Jewish State" as Beinart fears).

      So he seems illogical. More likely he hopes a limited boycott will fail or, if succeeding, will terminate (upon the ending of Israeli business in WB) early and before a PRoR can be established. If so, good thinking Beinart! And this is the reason the BDS boycotts must be as broad as possible, not limited to OPTs.

  • Schumer says Jewish and American interests on Iran deal differ but he has 'to do what's right for U.S.'
    • RoHa, But if that moment of inattention *et al.) on the part of the "white race" were sufficiently prolonged, ther'd be no more (sputter, sputter) Beethovens, Spillanes, Goethes, Casals's, Stalins, Hitlers, Bush-1, Bush2, Bush-3 (Jeb), Clinton-1, Clinton-2, Clinton-3 (hmm!). I seem a bit sidetracked here.

    • As to "paranoid speech" by Israeli leaders, media, etc., regarding "existential threat" of (putative) Iranian nukes.

      Arguably, and I so argue, it is not about actual paranoia of the Israeli leaders. They use "paranoid speech" to activate (actual) paranoia among some Israeli Jews ( ?? do Israeli Palestinians feel this paranoia, about Iranian nukes ?? do they believe that Iran would deliberately use a nuke to destroy the Haram Ash-Sherif ?? ) and of course to activate further "paranoid speech" world-wide in the Zionist claque (such as Hillel Int'l, AIPAC, Saban, Adelson, USA's MSM, et al.). After all, people know which side their bread is buttered on, don't they? And "paranoid speech" pays off, or has done so far.

  • Response to Dan Cohen's Gaza article from a 'Forward' editor
    • If reporters have actually been kidnapped. if there really are dangers, then who are we (at MW) to pooh-pooh Forward's fear of the same? What we should do is to read the resulting article, see who Forward's reporter talked to, see what she experienced socially, etc. If she manages to return from her (was it 3 day?) visit w/o getting a solid information about physical damage, psychological damage, deaths and injuries, the history of Gaza since 1947, then shat was she there for? But if she does get this stuff and reports it, then what's there to complain of (except the too-short visit and perhaps her list of people to visit).

  • Building solidarity between Korea and Palestine
    • amigo: Can we be sure that Toyota doesn't also deserve the BDS treatment? (Before I moved to NYC I owned cars: most were Toyotas for some reason. One reason: a cello-in-a-hard-case fit sideways in the trunk, unlike many other compact cars.)

    • Zavi writes: "Indeed, some South Korean companies, such as Hyundai, already profit from Israel’s land grabs through sales of equipment used to demolish Palestinian homes."

      Does this provide a basis for a BDS attack on some Korean companies? If so, which ones and where? Do you have a list of these companies?

      Apart from that question, your article moves me a great deal, because I had no idea that Korea was being a victim of neoliberalism. By a jump of the imagination, it is easy to see (or to believe) that ALL countries which have a rich upper class that is caught up in neoliberal global business are victims, as is Korea, as will be the signatories of TPP if it goes through, because this is the subjugation of "the people" in all countries, including the USA, by the global corporations which do or aspire to run everything for their own gains, a new feudalism in which the feudal lords are the corporations and the vassals are the rich locals and the local politicians, and the serfs are "the people".

      BTW, with tongue only partly "in cheek", I have revealed a use for a central philosophy of TPP/NAFTA here: link to 123pab.com

  • Is BDS practicing a double standard with respect to Arab countries?
    • A word for Richard Cohen.

      My fortune -- be it misfortune or good fortune -- since 1971 has been to live and work in largely Jewish neighborhoods and workplaces. I thought it was natural, but friends have told me that far from being natural or normal in the USA it was exceptional. These friends have told me that antisemitism is still the norm in the USA today, even if not as vicious as in past times. Perhaps they are right.

      In New York City, where I live today and in my old neighborhood in Lexington, MA, , there are Jews everywhere and this is not remarkable. I imagine that matters are much the same in Washington DC and some other places. The major "news" outlets that I encounter (NYT, NPR, WNYC) seem heavily Jewish. The universities I have attended and visited also seem heavily Jewish these days.

      As to that I make no complaint. Perhaps what I am seeing is the result of "meritocracy" in action after an end was made to much (but not all) antisemitism in the USA. In other words, maybe I am not seeing "Jewish privilege" at work at all (other than the normal workings of "old boy networks") but, rather, the normal working of a "meritocracy". It would seem that "merit" not to mention "interest" among Jews has gone from a focus on classical music, now taken over by East Asian immigrants, to business, finance, and media. There's a lot less preparatory work and a lot more money in those fields than in classical music, I'm sure.

      What galls me about the enormous Jewish presence in the "news" media, is that the Jews I've mentioned seem -- like their non-Jewish colleagues, be it also said -- to be practicing, proselytizing, fiercely-protective Zionists, adherents to the rule that Israel must be protected from criticism no matter what it does.

      This heavy Zionist presence in "news" media (the quotes on "news" to call attention to the general suppression of news about Israel/Palestine) has persuaded me that antisemitism is no longer an issue in the USA. Jews, it seems, have triumphed. Jews occupy high places in government, in business, in education, and in "news" media. And the Jewish presence in the media and universities slants (or so it often seems) the news and teaching to accustom the American public to a greater acceptance of Jews and Israel than might otherwise have been the case.

      Could be that I'm both right and wrong. Could be that some Jews have arrived in places where antisemitism no longer plays a role and others are effectively and daily subject to antisemitism. Could be that Richard Cohen, though himself comfortable, sees and understands the continuing presence of antisemitism in the USA.

      But maybe he's remembering what his father told him rather than observing the current scene.

    • abc: not necessarily. The fact that hophmi has not (we imagine and he doesn't deny) created a boycott movement of Egypt may not be because he doesn't care. Let us imagine he cares a great deal. But it's a lot of work to create a movement and also requires a reasonable estimate of the probability (or at least possibility) of having a beneficial effect. We BDS-a-teers like to think there is a reasonable possibility that BDS will persuade Israelis to mend their ways. They've not done so yet, but have instead -- and what an instead it is! -- gotten worse and worse. And still worse and then still worse. And the BDS movement has grown.

      The Palestinians who started the BDS movement hoped for wide support, but they themselves were NOT fighting against ALL human rights violators in the world (any more than then the anti-SA-Apartheid folks fought ALL H/R violations in the world). The Palestinians had every reason to focus their BDS movement. Those who follow BDS might have many reasons. I'd like to think that horror at the increasing stink of Israel was an important one.

  • Obama's disgust for Netanyahu's 'stink' signals coming era of Jewish persecution in the U.S., says 'Tablet'
    • Agreed, agreed; and if you don't want people to be offended by the stink, don't stink.

      The article seems to miss the MW point that a lot of mostly younger Jews want to rescue the good name of the Jews (or, more simply, to behave themselves properly and visibly) by opposing Israel's crimes. So it's not just the antisemites who don't like the stink (if, indeed, there are ANY important antisemites in this picture -- Obama is not one as far as I can see). It's also Jews.

      The stink is real and it is bad behavior and those who don't like it have sound reasons not to like it.

  • No Longer My Holy City: Reflections on Jerusalem
    • A wonderful house, a wonderful memory of childhood, not so pleasant report on the contemporary scene. Israelis stealing paving stones is a new one for me. Thanks so much, Wa'd.

  • Supreme Court slam dunks the Israel lobby on Jerusalem, 6-3 (and Rubio, Oren, and Engel are angry)
    • On NPR, Nina Totenberg noted that the majority included the Supreme Court’s three Jews.

      Always, always, NPR sees I/P as a private matter for Jews. But this is good, if interpreted (wrongly) as showing three S/C Jews opposing AIPAC et al. It seems that 6 justices, including 3 Jews, saw the law with the president. Did AIPAC submit a brief?

  • Notes from the Munayyer-Beinart debate
    • David Samel: You say 2SS "would require that one or two hundred thousand settlers, many of them armed and fanatical, be compelled to move back within the green line without igniting a civil war. " Whose decision is that? That is some unlikely-to-be-implemented proposal by some temporizing (I-just-love-piss-process) Zionist. I believe there are 650,000 settlers (possibly including those in Golan). Why should any be allowed to remain in the 22% mini-slice of Palestine allocated to new-Palestine in a 2SS in a green-line territorial division? If an entire removal of settlers is unreasonable, unlikely, unworkable, un-un-un, then why regard ANYTHING as workable? What makes anything else workable? Unless the EU or UNSC gets sufficiently worked up to end its quiescence on this matter, there will be continued (or worsening) apartheid. After the quiescence ends, the sky's the limit. Who needs the green-line in that case? Hasn't the gradual usurpation-by-force been gradual and consistent and constant over the lifetime of Israel? What makes the green-line special? (I'm imagining a no-longer-quiescent force majeure.)

      But of course the settlers do have guns and do already practice "price-tag", not your school-yard game of tag.

    • John D: Sadly, in light of the Obama push for TPP and afte4r NAFTA etc, we live in a world where instead of Dictatorstans (countries) we live in a world of mega-corporations which control the countries in various ways (labor laws, environmental laws, regulations of all sorts, drugs pricing (keep out the cheap knock-offs), free internet, and many more. TPP will be a disaster and Obama is giving away USA sovereignty.

      We don't need Dictatorstans. and in light of all the USA's horrible wars (eg Iraq) the USA is a prime example of a country that needs a BDS against it (if it would work).

      But rest easy -- the Congress, serving its corporate and Zionist masters, plans to put anti-BDS terms into our trade deals so that no country (at least not Israel) need fear BDS (at lest fear it so much).

    • Shingo: Yes, yes, yes. Justice (or even injustice) delayed is justice denied.

      BTW, did any Moroccan Jews get Palestinian houses, or was that only the European Jews who got them? Was this use of the word "Moroccan" a rhetorical ploy by Beinart (or an error?) , since Misrahim are 2nd class in Israel and the judge in the hypothetical would be deciding the case between 2nd class Israeli and 99th class not-yet-Israeli.

  • People behind BDS are also responsible for 9/11 attack, Israeli centrist tells NY synagogue
    • ooooo, the Mufti and the Nasties. Again.
      But didn't Stern Gang (terrorists? paramilitary? freedom fighters? budding totalitarians: see below, builders of a foreign-settler-colonialist state) seek also to make a deal with the Nasties? Wikipedia thinks so

      Lehi (Hebrew pronunciation: [ˈleχi]; Hebrew: לח"י – לוחמי חרות ישראל‎ Lohamei Herut Israel – Lehi, "Fighters for the Freedom of Israel – Lehi"), commonly referred to in English as the Stern Gang,[9][10][11][12] was a Zionist paramilitary organization founded by Avraham ("Yair") Stern in Mandatory Palestine.[13][14] Its avowed aim was to evict the British authorities from Palestine by resort to force, allowing unrestricted immigration of Jews and the formation of a Jewish state, a 'new totalitarian Hebrew republic'.[15] It was initially called the National Military Organization in Israel,[1] upon being founded in August 1940, but was renamed Lehi one month later.[16]

      Lehi split from the Irgun militant group in 1940 in order to continue fighting the British during World War II. Lehi initially sought an alliance with Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany, offering to fight alongside them against the British in return for the transfer of all Jews from Nazi-occupied Europe to Palestine.[2] Believing that Nazi Germany was a lesser enemy of the Jews than Britain, Lehi twice attempted to form an alliance with the Nazis.[

  • Once again, 'NYT' fails to tell its readers that many Jews support BDS
    • Read timeswarp here: link to timeswarp.org

      Read accusatory article (Orange-Dangerous-Liaisons-in-the-Occupied-Palestinian-Territory) here: link to scribd.com

    • I never saw thiws 20% of BDS are Jews "in the raw". where did it originate? Surely JVP and BDS itself should stress this as a sign that [1] BDS is not antisemitic but pro-human-rights and [2] that it has a large and growing Jewish following. Nothing succeeds like success (or, as Israeli hasbara hopes, nothing succeeds like excess).

    • Sorry, sorry, I was carried away. Of course, NYT, NPR, and WNYC are not distorting I/P news out of concern for anyone's "delicate flower" status -- it's all realpolitik.

    • NYT and NPR and WNYC (a small, provincial radio station which serves the minor municipalities of New Jersey and metropolitan New York) are all of one practice on Israel/Palestine: hide any facts that do not support Israeli practice.

      The result is that these three "news" outlets fail to serve the American citizens (voters!) who require but mostly do not receive news upon which to base realistic (and if they like, moralistic) opinions about I/P. Doubtless they'd explain (but only internally and only if asked) that they are protecting the "sensibilities" of those delicate flowers, liberal Zionists who could not long continue to hold LZ values in face of sustained real news coverage.

      But if they are protecting LZ "sensibilities", they are attacking the sensibilities of Palestinians, human-rights adviocates, and many Jews who do not espouse LZ views (as well as many Jews who are today LZs but who might change if suitably informed).

      BTW, a word needs to be said about the "delicate flower" status of LZs. Why should anyone seek to protect tender sensibilities of LZs who, themselves, have always supported the exile (often at gun-point) of 85% of the Palestinian population of israel-48 in the period 1947-50? And many of whom wholeheartedly support Israel's vicious attacks on Gaza and elsewhere? Where does anyone "get off" claiming "delicate flower" status when they are champions of such outrageous behavior?

  • Rivlin to announce 'joint Israeli society' -- and try to curb Palestinian house demolitions
    • Rivlin's proposals are in the direction of achieving one of BDS's three goals -- a non-discriminatory Israel-48. What about BDS's other two goals?

      Since Rivlin seems not to favor an Israeli withdrawal from OPTs, one must point out to him -- question him! -- as to his intent for a follow-on to today's apartheid one-state regime. Does he favor full citizenship for all who live within The Land? Does he favor a fully non-discriminatory rule of law for all residents of The Land as he is suggesting he does for Israel-48?

      L:astly, perhaps it is too early to tax him with the question of PRoR which, in a 1SS, would be a question about the return of refugees (exiles) to the entire territory once called Palestine rather than a question of a return only to WB&G as the question might have seemed to some (Zionists only!, not UNGA) in the context of a 2SS based on the green line.

  • Munayyer and Beinart's historic debate on the solution to the conflict
    • Talknic: the "we've had our self-determined state for 67 years" makes you out to be an Israeli, and by context an Israeli Jew. Was this the intended communication?

    • tree: Forget what hophmi says here: Beinart has not offered even PRoR! so I suppose he espouses ethnic cleansing (selectively, of course!). Our task is tickling Beinart and other LZ's under the chin to see if we can either change their publicly expressed minds or get them to say something flat out reprehensible. Sort of what Communists used to say were the inherent contradictions in capitalism, I suppose, but this time in Zionism or Liberal Zionism.

    • Kris: Worse. still, if he is arguing for retaining within new-Israel some of the settlers and their territory, then it would appear that he will want also to retain ALL of the Israeli Jews (and their territory) within Israel-48. That is to say, that occupation (whether in 1948 or 1967) gives rights -- in his feeling -- to the settlers which trump Palestinian rights. Makes you wonder what "concessions" he imagines describing as being on the Israeli side other than concessions of things illegally seized 1967-present.

      There will be tears (and not from LZ perspective "crocodile tears") for the settlers displaced by "peace" but none for the Palestinians displaced by Israel 1947-present.

    • Kris -- good point about "justice". I think Beinart is evolving over time. We should kindly but gently point out that "justice" thing to him and other LibZios who claim an interest in justice. Ask him (and them) to be a bit specific about the 2SS they are proposing (or whose basic form they are assuming to have been broadly agreed to) and to discuss the justice and injustice in these proposals for Israeli Jews on the one hand and for Palestinians on the other.

    • Beinart: "Palestinian nationalism privileges both an ethnic group, Arabs, and a religion, Islam." I assume by "Arabs" he means "Palestinian Arabs". No P's are talking about a state, or a RoR, for all "Arabs" but just for Palestinians exiled in 1948, etc.

      Moreover, though I may be misinformed (most of my Palestinian friends and acquaintances have been Christian), I was not aware that any Palestinians (even Hamas) wanted to privilege "Islam" in a Palestinian state (or in a democratic non-discriminatory multi-ethnic and multi-confessional One-State).

      However, it is easy to get behind the times. I had never heard of the PNA's (not PLO's) 2003 Palestinian Constitution that Beinart attributes to the PLO (see wikipedia on Palestinian Constitution). Which does mention Islam and Sharia, just as Beinart says.

      And, BTW, Beinart is very convincing to me when he described 1SS as utopian and unworkable.

      That said, a sharing of the land would require (in my view) an "Israel" much smaller (as to land) than it is today (100% of Palestine) or was in 1966 (78%). Both countries if there are to be two will have to be small, but not necessarily vastly unequal in size. Is this idea more or less "unworkable" than 1SS?

  • A banner day for BDS -- though you'd have to read the Jewish press to know it
    • "So the clash of civilizations and all that came with it was orchestrated to some degree by Zionists fearful that Israel’s security and the U.S’s could no longer be conflated. Well look, they’re still conflated. They occupy, we occupy, they drone, we drone. Just what the neocons wanted."

      It may be impossible for a logical person to justify Zionism (today -- if not yesterday in the heated near aftermath of the holocaust), but it is also clear that two countries essentially run "of, by, and for" their respective defense industries don't require such a logical justification to continue life-in-harness with "no light between" them on war policy.

      Neither USA nor Israel has an external threat, but both need to make it seem that they do. Never mind the facts, the facts ma'am. Israel is not fearful of the Palestinians or of Iran. But they do cry wolf very well, don't they?

  • Divestment activists face attempts to silence Palestinian students at Marquette University
    • Sounds especially savage. Does MU have a mechanism for student-sponsored resolutions -- petitions -- which cannot be re-drafted by the student-senate but merely voted upon? Are the votes of the student-senate recorded and revealed publicly?

  • From Germany, With Hypocrisy: Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier visits the Gaza Strip
  • Obama says peace talks are pointless because Netanyahu won't see the 'best' in others
    • JLD: Thanks for showing us Bibi's father's remarks. "The tendency towards conflict is in the essence of the Arab." Didn';t like being rules by furriners, whether Muslims (Ottomans) or Jews (Israelis). But then, to be sure, the Jews (Israel Jews that is) don't bow to anyone, would not be ruled by GB, used terror to evict the rulers, qadn terror to evict the Arabs. dod the Israeli Jews evidence am essential tendency toward conflict? Looks that way. Kettles and Pots are all black?

    • Israeli behavior (occupation/settlement project) can be likened (metaphorically) to drinking the blood of Palestinian children (think of the murders, tortures, imprisonments, stealing), and even as a religious ritual -- after all, much of the occupation/settlement project is conducted by people who claim to be religious and appear to be religious fanatics.

      In other words, Israelis damn the world for thinking (or saying) that Jews drink blood -- and then go ahead and do it (metaphorically), for all to see.

      Similarly, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion recite (I imagine) that (rich) Jews control the world, and AIPAC and its European cousins do, indeed, seem to be doing just that. To say nothing of the rich banks which in some cases have Jewish ownership and/or control and/or origin. But no-one is to say so, because to say so is to say an antisemitic "trope". Cute!

    • I suppose we must recall two things here. One is that politics is the art of the possible. The other is that much diplomacy is not conducted in public. we do not know what changes are happening, or how fast, in Europe. (We do know that they are changing too slow here in USA.)

      If EU will not call for (or vote for) a serious UNSC resolution demanding a rollback of all settlements and recall of all settlers, then Obama alone can do little. His concern for $$ after the presidency (Obama Library, speeches) might be overcome but only if the EU makes useful forward motion possible with his help.

      I'd like to think he's discussing this, but he also has to placate the $$ via TPP and TTIP and to do something big (and this is far more important) about climate change. I don't think human rights are on his to-do list.

    • So President Obama has threatened to allow a European UNSC resolution go through? Good. Threats are good things. (I didn't hear it in the video -- was it there? When did he say this?). But will he follow through? 18 months is very little time.m If he wants to get any business done it must be done before ANY next president takes office, for all candidates may be expected to "owe" something to the Adelsons among us.

  • In NY, a Palestinian and Israeli detail forgotten war in Gaza -- 'wiping families off the planet'
    • Forgive me for picking up on a phrase which was rather far from the main point here.

      Beinart says that Palestinians are non-Western? C'mon! Palestinians are (or were for a time) the most highly educated of all Arab people and I dare imagine that that education was "western". Graduates of Friends Schools (Ramallah) can often skip one year at American universities (if they can get to them).

      I think that it is possible that many Americans and others may view Palestinians as non-Western. Maybe as Barbarians! Read what Israeli Jews say about Hamas! Hasbara may indeed have it that Palestinians are non-Western. And of course, never forget ISIS. Though ISIS seems a 7th century (and thus, I suppose, a non-Western) group, and although they have nothing to do with most Palestinians, well, Americans are dopes and will believe all kinds of things.

      But, Phil, when you say "Precisely" are you not also saying that Palestinians are "non-Western" here?

  • What I Was Told: Arabs hate Jews
    • If our country's government's foreign policy responded to the ideals of the American people -- which I believe to be generally good, although there is a lot of racism in the USA -- we might not do so many dumb things. But the government in general and FP in particular are run (or greatly influenced) by a small number of very rich people, and these seem to support Israel. So it goes.

    • Annie -- I disagree. Anybody should teach their kids that people hate them -- but only if it is true.

      I believe, as this story suggests -- please publish widely, with JVP etc. -- that the story (that Arabs hate all Jews) is false, either a piece of pure hasbara (deliberate lies) or a bit of projection, because many Israeli Jews do seem to hate the Arabs (Palestinians) whose land etc. they have stolen, whom they have been deliberately and massively mistreating for last 67 years, and whom they need to see as hateful in order to ward off feelings of guilt.

  • Goldberg predicts 'civil war' between American and Israeli Jews as Israel is 'defined as an apartheid state'
    • Civil war inside Israel (and OPTs of course) has long been warned of. I fear the effect of such civil war on bystanders (Palestinians and Lebanese), because all Israelis who carry guns seem to aim first at Arabs.

    • Mooser: Did you know (and does Hophmi know?) that people with cancer often submit themselves to surgery because they are self-hating to the extent that they hate part of themselves which has become unwelcome and (for that matter) harmful?

      If someone has been brought up to believe that he/she is part of a Jewish community AND that he/she owes loyalty to that community no matter what AND that such loyalty requires (these days) loyalty to right-wing-Israel (gasp) -- and that person comes to recognize that that loyalty requirement is akin to a cancer and must be cut out, even if he/she would prefer to remain part of that Jewish community -- well, then, cut out that cancerous part of the self.

      But this is not a hatred of the whole self, only of part, and only of a virulent mutative part.

      IMO.

    • Mooser: If there is a divorce, or a clean break, or a civil war, or any thing else like these, many here will celebrate. And the fashionistas will celebrate that "Women in Black are the new black".

    • And look at him pushing for the corporate state, that is, in this case, Shell exploration for oil in the Arctic, and a BIG PUSH for the investor protection / surrender of national sovereignty law (treaty) TPP misleadingly called "free trade agreement" but some of whose terms have not been disclosed to Congress or anyone else (save the corporate sponsors one imagines).

      Not clearly anti-human-rights but clearly anti-democracy, anti-jobs, anti-environment, etc.

    • "Now the right, of course, believes that settlements are an expression, not a corruption, of [the righteous Zionist] cause. The left, on the other hand, believes that settlements are a manifestation of Zionism’s true nature. I disagree with that argument strenuously. But I will say this, though: The left position on this question has the wind at its back."

      This paragraph may contain a "typo" or a "think-o". Both right and left are said to believe the same thing -- that settlements are part and parcel of Zionism, not a corruption. I agree. Zionism was a corruption of human rights from day-1. But, in that case, why "distinguish" between right and left on this point?

    • "Look what the revisionist Zionists did to Arlosoroff when he was going off the reservation. Look what happened to Rabin". Sure: read the Einstein Letter to NYT of December 4, 1948 decrying Menachem Begin

      Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the “Freedom Party” (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine.

      And look what happened to JFK (not necessarily Israel-related).

  • 'NYT' says blockade of Gaza is justified by need to defend Israel from tunnel attacks
    • I think that the problem with NYT and others in USA is at least in part pure racism -- the (false) perception that all Israeli Jews (perhaps except the Ethiopian Jews, if they know of them) are "white" (of European background). As the NYT and other kindly but racist USA folks "know", all Christians and Jews are "white" (just look at pictures of Jesus in churches) and it is part of their "mission civilitrice" (so to speak) to oppress all non-white people.

      I know, I know, racism is bad thinking even on its own terms, but I think it plays its role. How I wish that the Israeli Jews from Arab countries and Persia would proudly claim their backgrounds (and skin coloration) where Americans would see these things. Maybe a Mizrahi Israeli PM?

  • The most precious forty-five minutes of your life: Diary of an Israeli prison visit
  • The totalitarian reign of Sheldon Adelson
    • The "totalitarian" actions of "Jewish organizations" (that is, their actions to shut out, to minimize, to ostracize pro-Palestine, pro-human-rights Jewish groups) are doubly totalitarian: because they seek to coerce Jews into acting Israel-uber-alles; but they also seek to coerce all Americans (into the same pattern) by pretending that all American Jews agree with them and using the leverage of a general American philo-semitism.

      The phrase "some of my best friends are Jews" is not only a defense against an accusation of antisemitism; it is also a fact, in many cases, which motivates well-meaning non-Jewish Americans to support what they (mistakenly) believe to be universally-by--American-Jews-held political or ethical position, here one relating to Israel.

  • StandWithUs invests nearly half a million dollars in ongoing anti-BDS lawsuit against Olympia Food Co-Op
    • piotr: This decision is very harmful w.r.t. SLAPP lawsuits in Washington -- and therefore is indeed a big win for StandWithUs. I'd very much like to see how the anti-SLAPP statutes in other states have fared on appeal of this sort. Here, the court has thrown out the entire statute, hence the $10,000 "fine" and the payment by the plaintiff of defendant's attorney's fees as well as the early dismissal of the SLAPP claim. SWU has ruined anti-SLAPP in Washington until a new statute can be enacted.

      So this suit must go forward in the ordinary manner w/o special anti-SLAPP protections.

      Now this suit looks very simple to an outsider: in a motion to dismiss, the co-op must show evidence (e.g., its rules and sworn written testimony as to what events happened) ) to show that the plaintiffs were incorrect in claiming the vote went against co-op rules. This one ought to be easy. A motion for summary judgment (dismissal) by defendants would present the co-op's rules and an affidavit of facts (about the procedures that led up to the co-op boycott decision) which affidavit would support a claim that co-op had followed their own rules. Plaintiffs would either present a different version of the rules or an affidavit claiming (as sworn facts) that some different procedure had been followed. If either the rules evidence or affidavits as to facts differ sufficiently there'd have to be a trial. If the two sides are agreed enough as to facts, the court might be able to decided to dismiss the case just "off the papers". Remember that the affidavits are sworn statements of fact and subject the signers to penalties for perjury. So they might agree.

      But other SLAPP suits might turn on more difficult-to-(dis)prove assertions and such lawsuits could go on for a long time, expensively, as lawsuits tend to do. Lawfare is no joke, and deep-pockets to promote lawsuits is important and dangerous. StandWithUs seems to have borrowed or "put up" $400,000 at some stage and may face other costs. But the anti-SLAPP $10,000 and defendant's attorney's fees have been removed from those potential costs.

      -- Peter

  • 'Heart-wrenching, harrowing, transfixing' -- NYT needs to end blackout on Blumenthal

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