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  • Older Jews are officially terrified of young Jews' views of Israel
    • Or they can just have the same mindset and convert to Islam just for a day. Then they would see that religious fanatics in Arab countries are just like they were the day before. They could go back to Judaism and know that ISIL and ISreaL are far closer in belief than they imagined. Perhaps that might even help peace.

  • There are only two kinds of Jews, Schumers and Feinsteins
    • Difficult thing to say here as I like this blog, but saying there are only two types of "Jews" sort of puts the author in the Schumer camp. That every religion, creed, nationality, gender, or anything else one can think of, is dealing exactly with this issue is the truth. Humanity these days, is confronted by those who prefer their tribe, or those who are universalist. There are not two types of Jews as contrasted with two types of Christians or Muslims etc. It's a simple way you look at a person who is not in your tribe. Do you see the divine in them or is that only possible for someone in your own tribe. And if this is happening in whatever tribe you happen to belong to, it should be rather obvious that most other people these days are dealing with the same existential issue.

  • Schumer and Dems outdo Trump at AIPAC-- there's no peace because 'Palestinians don't believe in Torah'
    • Could you imagine the news if a US senator said this, "There is no peace because the Israelis don't believe in Jesus". Wow, it would be the top news story, the politician would be immediately ousted from his/her party. Just goes to show, racism is not a republican disease but an American one.

  • Thomas Friedman justifies slaughter of Arab civilians by 'crazy' Israel
    • Whats up with Scandinavia? Trump doesn't want Blacks and Latinos in the USA but would welcome more Norwegians. Friedman wants to pummel and kill more Arabs because they are not like Scandinavians. Trump is on the right and Friedman on the left. One can't help but notice that both the left and the right use the same language to demonize minorities and compare their lack of human rights because they are somehow not more like Blonde northern Europeans. Yet, how many leftists will get that Friedman and his leftist newspaper and following pander to the same sort of racist Scandinavian loving bigots that our president does. Calling racism by its name when a Republican does it but looking the other way when a Democrat does it is not a powerful place to come from. I understand that Mondoweiss is not whom I'm talking about but the vast majority of the establishment democrats are quite comfortable using racism when their base wants them to be racist.

  • Arthur Finkelstein ruined Israel, says Ehud Barak
    • Arthur Finkelstein got it right possibly about Israel but certainly about America. If you put Christianity first over being an American, you are on the right, if you put America first over your religion, you are on the left. If you like Blacks and refugees you are on the left, if not you are on the right.

  • Israel's top diplomat spouts anti-Semitic criticism of American Jews -- 'having quite convenient lives'
    • The statistics are as follows according to PBS, Jews in America, by the numbers, published Feb 21st, 2017. Jews are 5.3 million adult Americans or 2.2%. Their numbers are 1/3 or 0.33% of the armed forces. So many have commented on what this means without any numerical evidence which is easily obtained. Please carry on folks as to the meaning to all this but my two cents is verifiable facts.

  • Smear campaign is defused as Tom Suarez speaks at UMass
    • Juan Suarez spoke in Portland, Oregon as a keynote speaker at a BDS regional conference. I and others objected as he is an opponent of BDS and as a leader in US academic circles, there are letters written by him to British professors urging them to not to consider measures to approve BDS. In Portland direct questions to Mr. Suarez were asked regarding BDS which he ducked. For many of us, supporting anyone whos approval of human rights only exists in theory , while at the same time working against concrete measures to hold Israel accountable (like BDS) makes him a dubious ally. Happy to hear concrete examples as well as a defense of Mr. Suarez here from his supporters.

  • Video: Gaza taking a 'wait and see' approach to Palestinian reconciliation
    • The way I see it, reconciliation was inevitable. On the one hand Hamas has dwindling support particularly after the Arab spring was defeated in Egypt. So they are motivated. The PA knows there is zero chance of an agreement with either the Americans or Israeli governments and so their raison d'être (negotiations) is futile and they want Gaza back so they are motivated. This will likely hold as the political players have things to gain and little to loose except for leaders egos (which is far more potent then it ought to be).

  • Israeli women march to 'wage peace' but refuse to challenge the occupation
    • By its own admission, this organization claims to have 26,000 members of which a few hundred perhaps like 200-300 are Palestinian. What does this mean, 99% Jewish Israelis and 1% everything else. But if you look at their press releases after the march this one percent is shown everywhere. We have this phenomena here in the US at trump rallies and yes some 99% white liberal groups like churches and colleges. Diversity is manufactured by the camera for the sake of Public Relations. Show the Blacks and Hispanics in press releases after the march even though diversity is almost completely non-existent. This march was to serve Israeli interests and make it seem as if their is a wide swath of Israeli and Palestinian women willing to stand for peace. As trump said in Charlottesville, many of his marchers are good people and their on all sides. Women (or men) who March while ignoring and minimizing suffering and oppression, are the same kind of good folks minus the torches that we have here in the US. They want to preserve the Arab Lives don't matter status quo exactly like the marchers here who like peace within the Black Lives don't matter preferred history of segregation and preserving a positive memory of segregation and subjugation.

  • Anti-blackness and the core logic of Zionism
    • Can one have opposite views on the "should this voice be included" debate and still be morally consistent? Here is my take. On the Hillel excluding Jewish non-Zionist voices, they are wrong because Hillel is supposed to represent ALL Jews on campus. An ideological litmus test on Zionism is therefore illegitimate because many Jews say it is, not because Zionism is inherently wrong or right. If Jewish ideas are banned at Hillel, it can not claim to be universally Jewish. On the other hand Black Lives Matter, Feminism, Palestinian call for BDS as examples are not trying to represent all people. They are representing marginalized people knowing full well that most power and in many cases majority opinion are not on their side. Social Justice movements by definition are working to change and challenge power and by definition those who are oppressed don't need to make room for those who already have all the cards and power. Excluding for example Zionists and White Nationalists from social justice movements makes sense as their presence serves little purpose but to distract and destroy the very fabric of the change that is sought. So all in all yeah, I won't loose any sleep over advocating both the inclusion of non-ZIonists in Hillel while making the case that a litmus test that excludes white supremacist views and Zionism is quite appropriate for Black Lives Matter and all anti-opression networks.

  • 'It is time to break the silence': Palestinian professor speaks out after having speech cancelled under pressure
    • There is no such thing as acting in an un-quakerly way. The school threw out a point of view coming from a person who's views are not permitted to be heard. I have family who has taught at the quaker school in Ramallah. I'm also gay and in my case non-religiously Christian Palestinian background. The school is tolerated because one can get a good education there. It however, and explicitly as a quaker institution, works to minimize Palestinian human rights under international law.
      “It’s about a dialogue,” Schwartz said of the club. “These two teachers did not come up with the idea for the club. ... These are not a couple of bomb-throwers.” And this comes from a Jewish lawyer affiliated with the speaker. The fact that "not a bomb thrower" is used as a sign that Atshan is the right and pacified kind of Palestinian. His educational pedigree and working with the US State department in the US government funded Seeds of Peace camp in Maine is used as further proof of a "good Palestinian" vs the other kind I guess. So the college doesn't want any Palestinian to speak and the other side sees the value in Pacified and obliging sorts of Palestinian speakers. So if I may say, a third option exists, invite Palestinian speakers who supports full BDS, full human rights, don't affiliate with the US military industrial complex or others complicit in Israel's and the USA's middle east political programs.

  • If you can't say 'equal rights,' I can't work with you
    • This article is sort of like some bad dates I've had. There are so many you must believe and can't work with you unless type statements that it is exhausting. The strange thing is that I'd pass his 20 or 30 point baseline assessment but after doing so it would occur with me I wouldn't want to work with a person who puts so many conditions on having a working relationship with me.

  • 'You are thieves of history!' Hotovely tells Palestinians, waving books at them
    • Just wondering what would happen if an deputy foreign minister of any Arab nation waved around an empty book describing Jewish history? I'm sure it would make CNN, the New York Times, and comments from the leadership of both mainstream parties. And yet all 100 senators and all 50 governors can enthusiastically sign a letter stating how unfairly Israel is treated and singled out. Hmmm, so in other words Israel's leaders get to negate and defame another people without a squawk from Zero of our politicians, yet if Israel is asked to uphold human rights, 100% will squawk about how unfair Israel is treated.

  • Anti-Semitism accusations against 'Dyke March' prove pro-Israel lobby will torch LGBT rights for marginalized people
    • Good grief, so much of the Israel-Palestine discourse is clear to me. Ethnic cleansing, Israeli-Jewish only roads, Building permits, settlements, etc, this one comes right up to the grey line. I'll come out, I'm gay and Palestinian. I don't see the Jewish star used in these marches as Israeli. It's a rainbow flag. On the other hand, the star color, size, and placement are the same, so surely a good argument can be made that the star is meant to symbolize Israel. Also other participants went to the parade wearing Jewish symbols without harassment. For me the good news is ultimately GLBTQ organizers are recognizing the intersectionality of all human rights struggles. Imagery evoking Israel and its policies is exclusionary and should be viewed in the same vein as a confederate flag for example. Weather this flag passes the smell test is up for debate. Great that the debate is finally on the table in my community.

  • The Israelis
    • An interesting article. As a Palestinian-American, I feel the same tugs at my humanity in some ways. Phil describes the difference between "Oceanic" endorsement of Israel's policies in Israel, vs the "Monolithic" views he gets in the US and how this has allowed him a minimal amount of air and some comrades to feel a sense of community here and he wouldn't have in Israel

      Growing up in New York, I can attest to the views growing up in NYC were indeed Oceanic, I was harassed in school, with taunts such as one three five nine, there is no Palestine and two four six eight, Israel is a Jewish state, teachers who would never ever call on me in class, other students who would never sit next to me as I was an untouchable. I was the new Nazi, the new creation to wipe out the Jews.

      Still, we knew we were refugees, and for example we exercised legal recourse against the state of New York when they claimed my dad could not have possibly been born in Palestine in 1932. Reading the New York Times in the 1960-1980s no light ever was given to any view that didn't conform to a Palestinians are evil narrative. No light was given to the Zionism is racism vote at the UN.
      Still, a persons light is created by simple choice. Our all Christian country club didn't admit Jews until we were among the first families to sponsor them. I did ask, why we would sponsor people who would never allow us into our own family home? It was because we should do it I was told, that is what makes us human. The ability to say no to exclusion by being inclusive ourselves. And no folks, my family weren't liberal democrats and all the world needs is more hugs types. Just, we won't screw others just because we are getting screwed sort of family.

      There is emotional familiarity while reading your article Phil, the sense of being alone or amongst the few is saddening and at times makes one question one's intentions or sanity, but in the end, giving a voice to the powerless, especially during the shut doors and certainty that you are only abating the savages in their attempts to kill and destroy, is the most human thing you can do. Zero Senators and Zero governors will agree with you but there you are, exactly where you need to be.

  • Israel provoked the Six-Day War in 1967, and it was not fighting for survival
    • A very central part of this article and all subsequent posts is missing. It is that is in 1967 Israel was a nuclear power. By definition, nuclear powers don't loose wars where their survival is in question. So then, any posturing from a nuclear power that it's survival is in question from a non-nuclear power are ludicrous. More then ludicrous actually, to say that Israel was indeed fearful of its survival only goes to show that era of fake news is not new and goes back a very long ways. That Israel got it's citizens to believe they were under dire circumstances is indeed true. That they were in dire circumstances is a complete lie. As we continue to know, fear of the other and manipulations by those in power to create fear are very potent tools to create justifications for prejudice and war.

  • Through 'severe pressure,' U.S. can impose a two-state solution on Israel -- Nathan Thrall
    • I like the severe pressure headline which is to posture a process of restoration to the Oslo/Geneva Accord two state garbage trap. The thrust of this piece is that Israel now realizes it can get what it wants without even the minimal restoration of Palestinian human rights.
      So severe pressure is just liberal Zionist garbage speak. We will be bold and assertive and liberal and daring. The only real difference is you'll throw a big party once a year when you let the natives off their Bantustans "Independent State I mean" and feel good about yourselves. I expect tougher questions and more insight from this website.

  • Leonard Cohen song is anthem of Jewish exclusivists
    • Love the music of Leonard Cohen, and I love the music of Richard Strauss. Bigots can write some good stuff. I only wonder about Scott Baio and Ted Nungent aligning with Trump. I mean in the old days histories deplorables had good tunes and we don't even have that anymore.

  • Jewish students at Williams blast Hillel for booting LGBTQ group after it co-sponsored event with JVP
    • I think a major point here is missing from these posts. Hillel argues that it won't work with any group that partners with groups that support BDS. Well here in Oregon, at the university of Oregon in Eugene, Hillel is co-sponsoring weekly dialogue groups with the Arab Student Union as well as the Muslim Student group at the university, both of whom support BDS. So Hillel goes after a GLBTQ group in Ohio who co-sponsors with JVP because they support BDS while at the same time happily co-sponsor events with Oregon BDS supporters. A major serving of hypocrisy and a major line of defense for the Ohio group. How can Hillel throw out an Ohio group while continuing to sponsor the Oregon one?

  • Towards Better Ally-ship for Palestine: A letter to the US activist community
    • For me out here in Portland, Oregon, the biggest problem Palestinians face is of whites of finding a single Palestinian to sugar coat a liberal Zionist perspective and calling that "Pro-Palestinian". Here, it has been a successful strategy of liberal Zionists and their "Pro Palestinian" supporters. Find one Palestinian who supports whatever Israel offers and wants, attacks the other 99% of Palestinians as anti-peace, and then talks about common ground, dialog, and reconciliation. Of course this Palestinian gains access to the city council, radio and by white power and becomes the spokesperson of all the Palestinian people locally. Sorry, at least locally, I am far less than impressed than Eman and see the local white takeover of Palestinian liberation as little more then a hostile gambit to erode essential and Universal Human Rights.

      My main point here is that activism on this issue is strongly flavored by the actual people at a local level. Her points may well be right when dealing with her cohorts in Illinois. Out here in a different part of the US, her points and ideas don't ring true at least to this Palestinian-American-Activist's ears.

  • David Friedman faces Senate vote, as leading rabbi calls him a 'bomb' (and not in a good way)
    • Being "overwhelmed by demographic realities" sounds like Trump speak. "These foreigners" are overwhelming us with their numbers and their demographic realities. It's simple racism whether you say it Hank or a democratic senator says it. When it is backed with a military such as Israel's or ICE here in the US it must be resisted. I am expending my energy on exactly those who disagree with while also expending energy to promote that which I agree with.

    • Yup, he's a bomb and a terrible human being. So what? Would the Democrats have put someone up better? That's a more interesting question. Feinstein of California, said this in her letter, not reported here.

      "The fact of the matter is that Israeli Jews are already a minority between the Mediterranean and the Jordan River. We simply cannot wish away Israel’s demographic challenge, which will only worsen with time."

      So in other words the problem is the very existence of Palestinian babies, which is a disease that is worsening with time like a cancer. This is written by one of the "Objectors". When people are born a threat or polite fascist speak, a demographic challenge, nothing more needs to be said. With a friend like that who needs enemies. Most democrats especially those who have voted for Feinstein see no hypocrisy between their votes for her and whatever horrible (and true) things they say about the present situation. Hypocrisy and the rise of ethno-nationalism is not just a republican challenge.

  • How to love Israel: 'Sometimes it'll hurt-- bad, but I will not walk away! I will not let you go!'
    • Both amazed and revolted by her speech. Her love for her Grandfather, country, and Judaism, her moving recollection of a family just before the Shoah juxtaposed as many of these nationalists are with a very dark and real racial hatred and alternative facts that fit in perfectly in America 2017. One can almost see the synagogue of her great great grandfather being torched but somehow the torching of others houses of worship while building her national dream are vanished. That one has to have the right people of the right color and religion (Jews, I suspect she really means white Ashkenazi are best) are the necessary components of her start up national dream. J-street purports to be on the liberal side of the spectrum. Her standing ovation just proves that Steve Bannon type nationalism mixed in with a shot of peace talk can prove quite intoxicating to many liberals.

  • Palestinian Americans find Trump’s stance on Israel/Palestine, Friedman appointment ‘severely distressing’
    • Not too much depth asking Palestinians except those who showed up at Friedman's hearing which really by definition are not a representative group. Having said that the question I think is not so much as do Palestinians like Friedman, would human rights Activists or Palestinians like anyone a president Clinton or the mainstream democratic party would put up either? For me, it's like would you like to die by Lethal injection or Firing squad?
      The one factual error and its significant is holding up the Arab American Institute as the policy research arm of the Arab-American community. Well, no such thing. The AAI wether one likes it or not is a Zogby family institution and represents the views of really of one person. It's about as convincing as saying the Zionist Organization of America or AIPAC represent all jews. Well it ain't so.

  • Trump is putting the crunch on liberal Zionism
    • Palestinian-Americans like anyone else are a diverse group and so we like everyone else hold different views on things. Having said that, there are clear cultural norms that the vast majority hold that are not often discussed here or other political blogs that are helpful for those who don't know us personally.

      1. To most any American, the question, "Where are you from?" only means where were you raised or where do you live now? To a Palestinian, it only means one thing, where was your family in 1948. It is a moment frozen in time, and ones identity is locked into that year and that place. It's an existential question, who's answer is frozen. So for me, I'm born in New York, I live in Portland, Oregon but really I'm from Ramleh, Palestine. The New York and the Portland parts are temporary and transitive, the Ramleh is internal and definitive.

      2. We come from an ancient culture. Many Americans think in terms of life starting from the day you were born and ends the day you die. Ancient cultures (Jewish and native American are similar) think in terms of centuries. As such, it is harder to get Palestinian Americans into the street to demand their rights, now and here.

      3. Palestine of 1948 is romanticized. Every Palestinian seems to have an idealized version of life before 1948. It was sublime, the Oranges tasted better, everyone was friendlier, we could move, no one cared what religion you are. Young children are given stories of this world that nurtures their roots and their place in the universe.

      4. Virtually every Palestinian American doesn't trust either the media or American power. For many Americans "Fake News" and "Alternative facts" are new and unwelcome. For Palestinian Americans of all walks of life or views, there is a knowledge that Alternative Facts and Fake News are not at new at all. This is a major world view that virtually all Palestinian Americans ascribe to, liberal or conservative, rich or poor. For us, pretty much all we have ever seen or known in America are lies about us and fake news to buttress those lies.

      So we are different from one another. But like other groups of Americans, sometimes it is good to know basic assumptions that distinguish a group as a way of helping to understand them.

    • As a American-Palestinian, the hope is that an expanding base of activists will help BDS and will create increased pressure to secure basic Palestinian Human Rights. The fear is that Jewish activists and their American allies will not really give up their privilege and will find willing Palestinian partners who are willing to perpetuate the charade of dialogue and peace process in lieu of justice. Where I live, my fear is of a coopted activists is much easier to see then my hope that activists pushing for equality

  • Liberal supporters of Israel slam Trump's 'terrifying' comments-- some saying Jews need to keep a majority
    • Herein lies one of the problems of advocacy. Most of the liberal Zionists who only support a Palestinian state in as much as it legitimizes and finales Jewish supremacy in Israel. Most of these Zionist advocates also call themselves Pro-Palestinian as they advocate a two state solution. So they have no problem seeing themselves as peaceniks, progressives and Zionists. Without getting into names which could get myself in trouble, these liberal Zionists find one or two Palestinians to dialogue with and create the appearance that Jewish and Palestinian voices can thrive together without demanding human rights. They dare to dream and listen compassionately. All the while seeing Palestinians as demographic threats. This industry is large, plays around with tens of millions of dollars every year, and creates Palestinian-Jewish cooperation without resistance to institutionalized racism.

  • Trump says he's 'happy' with one-state outcome, ringing in a new era
    • The main loser today is the Palestinian Authority. It now has zero claims to legitimacy as both Israel and the US Veto at the UN now determine that a state of Palestine will not now or ever come into existence. It's only purpose is as a Quisling type presence to preserve Israeli Apartheid on the cheap with the international community footing the bills.

      Liberal Zionists are the other looser. They can no longer cling to Jewish Supremacy with token gestures of a separate state for Palestinians to ease their conscience.

      I'd never thought I'd say this but the winner is Reality. Trump has done away with decades of Fake News creating hope for a reality that never was to be. He said today what has been the facts on the ground for decades. It has been the liberal Western Press that has promoted and help brokered peace process after peace process that have only enshrined and enabled the irreversible Apartheid we see today. So those who are so upset at the BS that comes out of our White House today can find decades of fake news and alternative facts regarding Israel-Palestine that would make Bannon squirm with pleasure. The "Free Press" didn't work to create knowledge in regards to reality, I can only hope that they begin to take their jobs more seriously as we travel down the rabbit hole.

  • New Israel Fund response to Ben Gurion harassment reinforces very system it claims to oppose
    • I really do feel for Gorovitz here. Her plight is almost unbearable. Here, having raised millions of dollars for apartheid and a liberal candy coating for racial supremacy, she was questioned and detained for a good 90 minutes. This is 2017 folks, and most readers are here in America. Gone are the days where white nationalists had to hide in the closet and have political elites candy coat their hate. In America today, we like our racism straight and neat. So do the Israelis, let's applaud that. No apologies or lies when they remove people or destroy homes. No crying how much they love Arabs and how we hate to have to throw them out for their racially exclusive housing project. This is the New Israel, and well the New Israel Fund is really the Old Israel where brute force just wore a white silk glove. After spending decades making the ugly look good, she was made to feel unwelcome by her fellow racists. Sad.

  • Jewish groups slamming Trump on refugees are hardhearted when it comes to Palestinian refugees
    • Herein is why Donald Trump is president of the United States. He don't like refugees, he don't let them in. It's simple, it's true and people of a certain stripe connect. Liberals on the other hand are crying for certain refugees and their own compassion in support of certain refugees, while at the same time passing legislation censoring and blacklisting advocates for other refugees.
      Net result, all Donald Trumps people got to the polls and voted. Millions voted for Hillary but like myself, literally held their noses while voting. Millions of others couldn't stomach the stench and stayed home handing the country to Trump. So here we are in a country where a very funded, well oiled campaign got beaten by a demagogue. Hypocrisy carries a price. Right now the price is our country and our basic freedom.

      If liberals expect Republicans to stand up to the alt-right and distance themselves from hypocrites and racists, surely liberals should do the same and purge their own racists and two faced hypocrites also. We have our Jewish nationalists in exactly the same say as Steve Bannon and Trump are white nationalists. To the extent that Zionism is bipartisan is exactly the same extent that democrats are hypocrites when it comes to refugees.

  • New poll shows sharp partisan divide on UN settlements resolution, and between Jews and African-Americans
    • At the same time most democrats are very happy to point the fingers now at foreign (Russian) involvement in US elections. The democrats are quite correct to see foreign influence on a US election as corrupting. BUT. Mr. Saban is an Israeli citizen as well as US, as is a top contributor to the Clinton campaign. His and other contributors to both parties, are to influence the US in favor for a foreign government. They're open about their politics. And like the Russian influence it has the smell of influencing US foreign policy in such a way as to condone actions by those who undermine fundamental human rights. Also take note that in both cases, the scale of the foreign meddling is massive not a few bucks here or there. Yes, in my case I voted for Clinton, even as this whole hoopla over foreign influence and incredulous behavior over Putin, betrays the fact that both parties are a party to some foreign influence peddling in direct contradiction to our constitution. Trumps victory did not come in a vacuum of clean and sterile environment in the US. The fact that people are willing to vote as they did sorts supports the reality that basic aspects of our system here in the US are quite broken. And now we have politicians who can't figure out who to love more. Putin or Bibi. It's just a matter of time before a horse becomes a US senator.

    • Thanks for publishing raw data that don't make liberal zionists happy as they like to portray themselves as the silent Jewish moral majority. However, some of your reported data gives me pause. For example, the 47-42 Jewish opposition to the resolution. This Judaism does not include Jews who classify themselves as nones or non-practicing. And as you point out, the nones overwhelming supported this resolution and Jewish people in particular were the least likely to have a "Don't know" response to the question. So in essence, if the complete Jewish community were asked, different results would have been obtained suggesting a significant majority support for the resolution.

  • Why a Texas rabbi keeps losing a debate over Israel with a white nationalist leader
    • People keep attacking Spencer in the replies. Why? I see him as morally consistent. He wants racism and a ethno-supremism here and admires it in other places. That is a valid world view. Yes of course, it is facististic but it applies rules that are universal. The rabbi on the other hand is deplorable. Clearly he is so confident holding up Torah as an example of universal love and radical inclusion. But he has nothing to say because he endorses the very same racism and echo-supremism when it suits his purposes. Spencer should win the argument because his views are defensible in the sense they are universal and apply to all peoples in all places. The rabbi has nothing to say as his views are that of a hypocrit. Public displaces of universal love and piety hiding behind the same world view of Spencer. In short Spencer has integrity and rabbi doesn't .

  • 'Make this my dream as well' -- in historic appearance, Palestinian offers one-state vision to a NY temple
    • His children were killed by Israel, but there is more to the story then that. As photos show, his children were next to his apartment window which for anyone who has lived under Israeli occupation is shocking. I've lived where Israeli tanks rumbled up and down streets. Us children were instructed to quickly move towards the center of the building. AWAY FROM THE WINDOWS. He let his kids stay near the windows because unlike virtually all other Palestinians, he did not fear Israeli tank fire, he worked for the people who shot his kids. Tank fire and yes, gunfire follow the laws of physics, not politics. It is akin to a parent allowing a child to play on a highway. Neither the child or the car on the highway, nor the parent want anything to happen, but if you play on a highway, bad things will happen. While this story is extremely sad, this person allowing his children in such an unsafe area is a major part of the story. Yes, Israel killed his kids and yes Israel is ultimately to blame, but a responsible parent who didn't work for Israel TV would have made sure his own kids were in a much, much safer location.

    • A good talk with views not commonly shared in a Westchester Temple. However, the article itself has views that are problematic. One is that Palestinians just need to be invited into Jewish spaces. As if we are interchangeable from one another. MLK said to judge each other from the content of ones character, not the color of the skin.
      Many Palestinians who support Israeli views, such as "Arabs for Israel" those funded by Christians United for Israel, and additional influential people in the PA, regularly speak to Jewish and American audiences to confirm the prevalent AIPAC style status quo. I wouldn't mention this in its particulars but since the author wrote his name. Dr. Izza Abuelish , is certainly in this Kosher approved category. He worked for Israel television and was Israel's voice inside gaza during their "operations". To share his name and Johnathan Kuttab as if they equally representative Palestinian views is scandalous at least to my Palestinian ears.

  • FL State Sen. Dwight Bullard opposed an anti-BDS measure -- and lost his job
    • There are few political organizations that are friendly to Palestinians. As we have few friends, I agree we should do better with potential friends that take risks to support us. But who is truly our friend is the $64,000 question. Allison Weir and lately Mikko Paled have been denounced by Jewish Voice for Peace as well as US Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation. Both denunciations had petitions with thousands of signatures objecting to these actions to exclude some of our best, steadfast defenders of basic human rights. In those petitions supporting Weir and Paled, many, many of the signers had Palestinian last names. So in other words, Palestinians know who are true friends are. If I had a nickel for every person I met who said they supported Palestine, but when pressed, merely thought whatever Israel does is right and generous, I'd be very well off. A crazy president elect with fascist and authoritarian tendencies likely won't make things much worse for human rights is a bigger indictment of our system than a unanimous bipartisan decision in Florida's state government showing contempt for basic rights granted by our Constitution. That so much pressure was brought to bare on one state legislator for assuming his duty was uphold the right to protest and boycott says so much. The way to go is continuing to work with Unions, students and progressive people of all faiths to promote BDS. The author unwittingly makes a very good argument why going door to door and raising funds for political candidates is an injudicious use of our limited energies as activists.

  • I'm not worried about anti-Semitism
    • Look folks, trumps daughter is an orthodox jewish person and clearly Trumps rejection of Chris Christie is out of major allegiance to his new Jewish relatives. Also look at Facebook websites like CUFI, Christians United for Israel. That is 1.3 million Christians who are rabidly pro Israel and rabidly pro trump. Though their lens is warped as they see support for Israel through a rather bigoted reading of the bible, Jews are the last people they are going to try to offend. They are Jewish supremacist in the same way they are White supremacist. Israel is a model society with dealing with its racial unwanted in their eyes. So most Jewish folks are in a unique position here. They are voting against trump yes, but because his main supporters are in their eyes needing to fulfill biblical prophecy by supporting Israel, Jews will remain safe and not touched as the neo-facism hits other groups. Of course time could change all that too but for now, as the author points out, other groups (blacks, hispanics, and Muslims) have far more to worry about

  • Necessary Transformations: Ending the claim to exclusivity
    • "No religion would condone behavior of any people that occupies, steals lands, kills innocent civilians, lies to justify those killings, and are accused of human rights violations. If there is any religion out there that will support such “sins” I would like to know." Well hello, we are all living in the USA or possibly Canada. Manifest Destiny which how America was WON from the natives, and I do use that term pejoratively, is steeped in Christianity. Our whole election at the moment is also immersed in racism, with the vast majority of evangelicals voting to justify if not glorify past present and future human rights violations. So Israel is not so special. The only real difference is that the progressive community is still enamored with Jewish privilege and supremacism and so is the conservative. One has to be an outlier to advocate on Palestinian human rights.
      Lastly, the Jewish ethical tradition is a misnomer. For thousands of years, Jews had no self determination or independent power. Israel is new in this sense. An ethical tradition without power is easy. Once you have power or the power over others, then your real tradition shows through. Again, not unique to Israel. What makes Israel so special is that it's use of power, for better or usually worse, is protected by the World's only superpower. It's about power and not ethics. It is wise not to confuse the two.

  • In Brookings poll, most Dems say $38 billion aid package to Israel is 'way too much' while the GOP is split
    • I think a bit more info about the brooking institute and its "center for middle east policy" should be included in this article. This center formerly known as the "saban" center is funded by Mr. Haim Saban. He recently was instrumental in getting a certain Hillary Clinton on board against BDS. I don't know if the numbers in the poll are correct, but when Mondoweiss publishes things from an organization that clearly has a stake in the results of its own poll, relevant info regarding the taker of the poll needs to be included.

  • Critiques not fit to print: Students and allies respond to 'NYT' coverage of Palestine activism on campus
    • I do believe I was one of the only Pals who did manage to get at least a letter published in this particular NYT article. It seems that interest groups do manage to get their viewers to flood the positive feedbacks on any topic of their choosing. My letter is C Barghout, at least one post from a past participant of dialogue groups and how they have been misused was printed.

  • Presbyterian and UU breakthrough votes on Palestine
    • Mondoweiss usually does a great job at exposing truth and scratches the surface to reveal the truth underneath. Not so in this article, everything regarding the Presbyterians is true, not so with the Unitarians. The UU's of which I am a member have on many many occasions defeated resolutions calling on Israel to uphold human rights., for example in 2010 when they would not condemn Israeli settlements and the siege of Gaza. Their previous resolutions would say something like the Palestinians have a right to want a state somewhere. Even the Israeli far right would agree to that.
      The Unitarians let no Palestinians speak, only Jewish folks. Nothing wrong with Jewish folks but when the whole discussion is between one side and the other is not even invited to the table it smells and is foul. Rabbi Jacobs, President of the Union of Reform Judaism spoke to all 3700 people and let them know that BDS was anti-semitic which is to be expected. No one from the other side got any right to speak to anything but a small fraction of delegates. In addition, during the voting process where there was supposed to be an open microphone to speak, procedural excuses used up all the time so that virtually no one who supported BDS was allowed to speak. In addition the Unitarians held panels, again with no Palestinians, where only proponents of US policy and all panelists were committed ZIonists.
      All claims can be verified with those attending the UU general assembly and the list of panelists and speakers is in the program as well as video broadcasts of the entire event The Presbyterians and others have done the work to help bring about human rights for all peoples. I do wish I could include Unitarian Universalists on this list, but alas it is very far behind most other progressive movements for social justice.

  • Democratic establishment wants to make Palestinians go poof in platform
    • Just as I know that not all Jewish people from this site support Israel, it should be clear that just because someone is Muslim, they would naturally support Palestine. The committee is 10 Clintonites to 5 for Sanders so the deck is stacked to begin with. So Ellison, not a great supporter of Palestinians decides to agree to a Pro-Israel letter that meets J-Street parameters. Hey, throw the Pals under the bus. The liberals in his district are not going to bolt and bringing in a pro-Israel lobby is going to secure benefits for him now and down the road. Politics pure and simple, and naturally the oppressed get screwed in the process.

  • Post Orlando, a Muslim's comment on homophobia within the Muslim community
    • Folks, Homophobia can and has been measured in various religious communities here in US including Islam by Pew research. It's nice to debate everything about Israel-Palestine, and I'm guilty of doing that myself, but certain things can be and have been measured. Facts are in. Islam is neither the worst or the best when it comes to GLBTQ people but is somewhere near the middle. Go to the website and numerous articles regarding the changing LGBTQ landscape are researched.

  • 'What certainly influenced me' to support Iraq war, Clinton says, was Bush's billions of aid to NYC
    • Ok, I'll take Hillary at her word. (2016). Money influences her vote. That's it in a nutshell in terms of Israel-Palestine-USA too. There is a lobby like AIPAC, that has lots of money and influence. So the politicians do what they are told to get their money and please powerful lobbies. Going to war and letting thousands of Americans die and spending 100's of billions doesn't Trump (excuse the pun) Hillary's vote. Money in Clinton's own words rules. And our media is somehow perplexed why Americans are so angry?

  • Resisting anti-Semitism does not contradict resisting the Israeli state
    • An interesting letter with both clear highs and lows. Highs would be to form a distinct counter and separation within the Jewish community to the prevailing requirements at Mcgill that all Jewish students must stand with Israel and Zionism. Another high is that one should attempt to stand with the oppressed regardless of tribal and religious affiliation. Some lows are the statement that "The rightful claim of Palestinians to a land of their own renders occupation profoundly unjust. " This limits Israel's transgressions to 1967 and reduces Palestinian claims to injustice to a non-specific land somewhere and sometime. Another low is the students claim, one they know is made by 171 Palestinian organizations in 2005, "BDS puts pressure on companies that profit from the creation of settlements illegal under international law and that design military equipment used in ongoing assaults on the West Bank and Gaza." This again twists the clear language of the BDS call to only corporations that profit off of settlements. Please read the actual call for BDS in 2005 to what these students say it means. Very different birds. So, in short, the students are on the right path but surely are still grappling with the notion that Palestinians are real people and deserve the same rights all other people deserve. Is the glass half full or half empty? Since the glass was completely empty just a few years ago, I'll choose to be the optimist. It's half full.....:)

  • Palestinians took over in the afternoon, at the Haaretz NIF conference
    • Not so impressed by Palestinian speakers in this post. The Palestinians sited are all deeply involved with Israeli Apartheid in assisting it. Examples are as follows, Saeb Erakat, claimed to provide the signature moment in this conference is a known Normalizer who has made a name for himself with the Palestinian Papers as well as known normalization projects such as Seeds of Peace. Jarrar Farah and his organization receive much of their funding from Zionist groups; New Israel Fund and George Soros. Rula Jabreal is married to a Jewish individual which entitles her to a higher of privilege then other Palestinians by way of her marriage. Though Ayman Odeh is an elected Palestinian citizen of Israel, and admires MLK as an earlier Mondoweiss article mentions, he squanders his opportunity to move beyond feel good moments of mutual shared futures. MLK, through the civil rights movement and voting rights act, had a very clear "ask" and spoke truth to power. MLK was imprisoned by American Segregationists and wrote his Birmingham papers from a jail cell. In other words, MLK put his money where his mouth is. Odeh, in contrast, flatters Zionist oppressors and as this article points out, gets a standing ovation for feel good comments that only slightly challenge the status quo. Finding willing accomplices among those occupied is a well trod path of colonialism. I would had hoped that Mondoweiss would have seen these speeches for what they are.

  • Brookings conference on 'future for Israelis and Palestinians' featured zero Palestinians
    • I think not inviting Palestinians is an honest admission that they are only concerned about Israeli voices. The Haaretz, NIF gathering in as far as Palestinians is concerned is a who's who of people who collaborate with Israel. From Saeb Erekat to Just Vision, to American Task Force for Palestine. Not bothering with Palestinians is honest, inviting known appeasers is far slimier.

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