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PeaceThroughJustice

Posted in the early years of Mondoweiss under the name "David," but that name was not available when I returned.

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  • Thousands march to UK parliament calling for justice on Balfour centenary
    • Greta, I take it from George Galloway's recent video that he was not invited by the organizers. Seems rather insulting. Do you have any insight into what may have been going on behind the scenes?

      Galloway on Balfour

  • Susan Rice calls 'BS' on AIPAC -- but she pandered to the lobby when she was in power
    • "Senators Fritz Hollings and Chuck Hagel come to mind; they came out after they left the Senate."

      Not true. Plenty of gentiles have spoken out. It's just that they've all gotten crucified.

      “With 760 dead in Iraq and over 3,000 maimed for life, home folks continue to argue why we are in Iraq — and how to get out . . . Even resident Bush acknowledges that Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with 9-11. . . Of course there were no weapons of mass destruction. Israel’s intelligence, Mossad, knows what’s going on in Iraq. They are the best. They have to know. Israel’s survival depends on knowing. Israel long since would have taken us to the weapons of mass destruction if there were any or if they had been removed. With Iraq no threat, why invade a sovereign country? The answer: President Bush’s policy to secure Israel.”
      — U.S. Senator Ernest F. Hollings (D-S.C.)
      Writing in The Charleston Post and Courier, May 6, 2004

      And as for Hagel, don't you remember who attacked him in his confirmation hearings?

  • New statement calls on the movement to focus on Palestine, not divisive internal conflicts
    • "Divisive internal conflicts" once again means accusations of "antisemitism," which in turn just means failure to prioritize Jewish preoccupations.

      Anyone who has followed this site for any length of time will know that Phil Weiss will never in a million years sign this letter or any of the others like it. That's fine, but maybe he could explain why not?

  • Small victories
    • I find it fascinating that Phil's site has reached the point where Alice Rothchild can write a piece about visiting a "retirement community in Seattle," and just assume that everyone would know that she is talking about a Jews-only community, as if it's the most normal thing in the world.

  • 'NPR' does story on Adelson's newspaper purchase without mentioning Israel
  • Trump's claim of 9/11 celebration in New Jersey is based on arrest of 5 'laughing' Israelis
    • From Ketcham's summary --

      The reputable Israeli daily Ha'aretz reported that by the last week of October 2001, some six weeks after the men had been detained, Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage and two unidentified "prominent New York congressmen" were lobbying heavily for their release. According to a source at ABC News close to the 20/20 report, high-profile criminal lawyer Alan Dershowitz also stepped in as a negotiator on behalf of the men to smooth out differences with the U.S. government.
      http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17260.htm

      "Unprovable" lol.

  • Video: 'One Word' ad campaign banned by Boston Metro -- again
  • 'Jewish Communal Fund' seeds Islamophobia as toxic as Trump's
    • PeaceThroughJustice November 21, 2015 at 2:31 pm

      "... and has a welcome mat out for non-Jewish progressives."

      Just don't expect to have any say on the board of directors.

  • Hillary Clinton equates ISIS and Hamas
    • Off the topic a little --

      "Until they recognize that foreign policy sets the limits of domestic policy, ..."

      What does he mean by that? I think I've always felt that foreign policy possessed some kind of priority, but I can't say why. Anyone have any thoughts? Of course there are the fiscal constraints. But is there something more? Does it establish a moral precedent? Or is it more about the fact that foreign policy discourse is almost entirely in the hands of the elites, and so establishes the kind of relationship between the governed and the governing?

  • West's war against terrorism is Israel's war, Chuck Schumer says
    • This Zionist discourse on terrorism actually goes back further than the neocons. Glenn Greenwald talked about it on Democracy Now! a while back --

      "There is some amazingly great scholarly research by Rémi Brulin, who was at the Sorbonne and then NYU, where he traces, essentially, the history of this term in political discourse. And what he has described, in a very scholarly way, is that the term "terrorism" really entered and became prevalent in the discourse of international affairs in the late '60s and the early ’70s, when the Israelis sought to use the term to universalize their disputes with their neighbors, so they could say, "We're not fighting the Palestinians and we’re not bombing Lebanon over just some land disputes. We’re fighting this concept that is of great-a grave menace to the world, called 'terrorism.' And it’s not only our fight, it’s your fight in the United States, and it’s your fight in Europe, and it’s your fight around the world. ..."
      http://www.democracynow.org/2015/1/13/glenn_greenwald_on_how_to_be

      edit: And I see Brulin's talked about it here at Mondoweiss, which may be where Greenwald heard of his work --
      http://mondoweiss.net/2014/08/israels-terrorism-ideological

  • The way for Americans to take on the Islamic state is to end support for Jewish nationalism
  • Rubio prays for Israel, and auditions for Adelson
    • PeaceThroughJustice October 17, 2015 at 10:22 pm

      "i cover lobby stuff"
      I know you do, Annie. I was talking about the noxious racism of a Marshall or Goldberg. Distorting the picture of Palestine that American citizens get.

    • Are there any non-Jewish journalists writing stuff like this? Can anyone think of any at all?

  • State Department forced to retract statement suggesting Israel incites violence
  • Courting Adelson and Netanyahu and reviving 'new American century,' Rubio positions himself as neocon favorite
  • Anti-WASP tropes in the 'NYT'
    • “I saw all the Woody Allen movies, I know about anti-Semitism. I never heard about anti-anti-Semitism.”

      I'm guessing the Phil Weiss we know today would not exist if he had married in. (In fact it's a little frightening to imagine to what different ends that mix of intelligence and tribal solidarity might easily have been applied.)

  • Palestinian shot by Israeli forces near Nablus last week dies from injuries
    • PeaceThroughJustice September 27, 2015 at 3:59 am

      from the Graeber piece--

      It was at the moment it suddenly occurred to me—someone who had grown up in a Jewish family in New York fed almost entirely on Zionist propaganda—exactly what things must look like from the other side. Wherever we went, Palestinians would tell us about all the different sorts of people they had historically welcomed to the Holy Land: Armenians, Greeks, Persians, Russians, Africans, Jews… They saw the Zionists as originally their house-guests. Yet they were the worst house-guests one could possibly imagine. Every act of hospitality, of welcome, is turned into license for appropriation, and the world’s most skillful propagandists leapt into action to try to convince the world that their hosts were depraved inhuman monsters who had no right to their own homes. In such a situation, what can you possibly do? Stop being generous? But then one is absolutely, existentially defeated. This is what people really meant when they talked about a life of calculated degradation. People were being systematically deprived of the physical, the economic, and the political means to be magnanimous. And to be deprived of the means to make that kind of magnificent gesture is a kind of living death.

    • Just came across the best piece I have ever read on what the occupation really means, psychologically, both for the perpetrators and the victims --

      Hostile Intelligence: Reflections from a Visit to the West Bank
      David Graeber, International Times, 30 July, 2015
      http://internationaltimes.it/hostile-intelligence-reflections-from-a-visit-to-the-west-bank/

      It reminded me of the film Paradise Now (2005), which also treats the occupation as an intentional attack on a people's sense of themselves, an attempt to erode their humanity. Hard not to think in terms of Evil.

  • The Obama administration needs to own up to the quagmire in Syria
    • PeaceThroughJustice September 29, 2015 at 7:41 pm

      lproyect: "This is really frightening ... , blah blah blah."

      Why do you hang around here if you find the ideas of "young people today" so frightening? You wouldn't be just trolling for attention would you?

  • Rev. Graylan Hagler disinvited to speak on Palestine, sent death threats
    • This was the bait-click teaser for a BBC news story today --
      "Serial Faker: Was one man a neo-Nazi, feminist and jihadist - all at once?"

      Sadly I've learned how these stories usually turn out. And sure enough, clicking through, it turns out to be another defender of the Jewish people --

      To some he was an Islamist extremist, to others a radical feminist, to others a neo-Nazi. These are all online identities that seem to have belonged to Joshua Goldberg.
      http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-34292809

      For some reason the BBC shows no interest in the question of motivation for this strange behavior (although they do play up the "mentally troubled" angle). You have to go back to the original Australian story to discover that

      He publicly linked himself to Amnesty International, saying that he used to work there. The fake jihadi also claimed a friendship with anti-Islamophobia campaigner Mariam Veiszadeh, but only to smear her reputation.

      In online conversations, Goldberg said: "I wanna smear Amnesty and Mariam Veiszadeh…Amnesty is already in hot water over their links to CAGE, I wanna cement their jihadist connections and ruin their reputation. And Mariam is a Muslim whore, so smearing her as a jihadist should be easy."
      http://www.smh.com.au/national/australian-is-jihadist-is-actually-an-jewish-american-troll-20150911-gjk852.html

      (Notice the connection to Rita Katz, which the BBC also found uninteresting.)

  • 'New Yorker' says anti-Zionism is 'firmly rooted' in British left, and it's anti-Semitic
  • Could Syria's revolution have been different?
    • "As with any US action outside our borders, I prefer the principle: “please don’t ‘help’ in any way or wise, just keep away”."

      And this goes double when the country we're supposed to be "helping" is unfortunate enough to be situated next door to the Zionist entity. For some mysterious reason, things just seem to always go wrong.

  • Why the mainstream media is still ignoring Max Blumenthal's excellent book on Gaza
    • Off topic: Saw this in an email from If Americans Knew. Big conference Sept. 17-19 in Massachusetts --

      Christians and the Holy Land: What Does the Lord Require?
      http://www.sbsedu.org/L3_events_natconf18.9.15.htm

      Heavy-duty speakers --

      Noam Chomsky
      Stephen Walt
      Ilan Pappe
      Jean Zaru (Friends)
      Mark Braverman (Kairos)
      Sara Roy (Harvard)
      Avner Gvaryahu (Breaking the Silence)
      Rev. Peter J. Miano

      (Conspicuously absent are any of the usual gatekeeper orgs.)

  • Minnesota Congresswoman demands accountability for Nakba Day killings
    • PeaceThroughJustice August 28, 2015 at 8:58 pm

      ckg: "It is the correspondent named Said."

      Said Arikat, from the Jerusalem-based Al Quds Daily newspaper (Palestine's largest Arabic language paper).

  • Etgar Keret sometimes worries about what's happening to Palestinians
  • Videos: 'Vanity Fair' story about anti-Semitic pogrom in Paris is falling apart
  • Omar Barghouti on Matisyahu: 'Perfectly reasonable to oppose performance by any bigot'
    • PeaceThroughJustice August 24, 2015 at 10:50 am

      "The Palestinian BDS National Committee (BNC) endorsed Abunimah’s article."

      A small group of American Jews called Jewish Voice for Peace quickly backed up Barghouti and Abunimah with their own strong endorsement of the article, saying "all racists must be shunned no matter what their ethnicity."

      (Just kidding, of course. There's been not a peep out of them.)

  • 'New York Review of Books' offers Israel as a model to US on targeted killings and detention for terrorists
    • PeaceThroughJustice August 23, 2015 at 6:48 pm

      "Note: Vanity Fair, like the New Yorker, is published by Conde Nast."

      Which has been owned by the Newhouse family since 1987. (I hate to be a "conspiracy theorist," but anyone who is not keeping track of who owns our media deserves everything they get.)

  • End of lockstep US Jewish support for Israel is a triumph not a tragedy
    • PeaceThroughJustice August 19, 2015 at 8:17 pm

      "First there was no Israel Lobby. It was a myth. It was an anti-Semetic trope. It was a vicious lie. Now it suddenly emerges as an extremely strong power trying to kill an international peace agreement."

      Yup. Amazing. :)

      Probably mainly have to thank Mearsheimer & Walt. Here's Commentary magazine in 2006:

      But never mind their choice of friends; Mearsheimer and Walt deserve to be judged by their words. Others among their critics, notably Alex Safian and Alan Dershowitz, have dug deep through their original paper to unearth the factual errors, the pervasive use of double standards in argumentation, the rich array of logical fallacies, and above all the distortions, malignant insinuations, and outright falsehoods, both about the historical conduct of America’s Jews and about the historical conduct of American foreign policy, at its heart.

  • Over 1,000 Black activists, scholars and artists sign statement supporting freedom and equality for Palestinian people
    • "why is talking about the role of special interest groups) is engaging in “chauvinistic nationalism”"

      I think they're saying: "You think the problems in your own corner of the world are all caused by outsiders? That all you have to do is get rid of some "alien" special interest group and you're all going to be saints? No, your racism isn't imposed on you from the outside, it's planted deep inside you like everyone else."

      Which may be true as far as it goes. But they never explain why we can't just deal with one problem at a time. Maybe cleaning up our racist power "structures" will become easier once the lobby stops filtering out all our principled politicians, for example. Or once we're not spending $4T on wars in Israel's backyard. Or once our media are more open.

    • "but i find it odd the “proof” for this statement is the identification of IAK’s founding. their conclusion that it’s “only non-Arab, non-Muslim, non-Palestinian, and non-Jewish voices can be trusted to speak the truth” is not born out in either IAK’s statement or the way the IAK appears to operate."

      True. I ignored this section because there's so much smoke being blown that it's hard to follow their argument. Let's be honest, IAK's call for "an organization to be directed by Americans without personal or family ties to the region" means "let's let some non-Jewish voices in." You and I know this and JVP knows this, but JVP is embarrassed to say it noticed it so it pretends that Weir is trying to block minority ("rainbow") voices in order to privilege us white oldies (aka "white supremacists").

      (Remember in all of this, JVP doesn't consider Jewish voices to be part of the establishment power "structures" that it claims to be fighting. They're not quite ready to accept the idea of Jewish power. Power is in "structures" but it's not in Adelson, Saban,Singer, Crystal, Friedman, Goldberg, etc. )

    • Annie wrote: "it’s occurring to me thru this dialogue the ultimate target (or more important target i should say) here is not primarily, or merely alison, it is this “national interest” meme i keep hearing about."

      I think you're right. In fact JVP's public statement is pretty clear about it --

      https://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/jewish-voice-for-peace-statement-on-our-relationship-with-alison-weir/

      First it lays out those explicit allegations of wrongdoing that we're familiar with (which remember consist of three counts of consorting with unsavory characters over the last 15 years), then it goes into a paragraph where it says that JVP is a progressive organization committed to righting ALL the wrongs in the world (as opposed to just focusing on that tiny little matter of a Jewish State). And then comes this --

      In contrast, Weir and IAK have a fundamental political framing that the U.S. is not implicated in the same racist and white supremacist structures as Israel. This Š__tail wags the dogŠ__ theory is a form of chauvinistic nationalism that absolves American interest in perpetuating injustice–not just in Israel but in other regions around the world.

      In other words, JVP doesn't waste its time on anything less than "structures of racism" (which you could read as "antisemitism" if you were cynical) and anyone who does (by, for example, talking about the role of special interest groups) is engaging in "chauvinistic nationalism" (which is, of course, only two steps away from white supremacism).

      It all sounds lovely and very high principled, but it does have the unfortunate side effect of making it impossible to actually accuse anyone with actually creating the problem, since it's all in the "structures."

    • ritzl wrote: "You never did answer my question about why one form of bigotry (Zionism) is acceptable to associate with and all the rest are not."

      I suspect it's because criticizing the bigotry of the power-holding class is always more dangerous than concentrating on the powerless. (See the recent Enemies List article> http://mondoweiss.net/2015/08/the-enemies-list ) The problem for Jennifer though is that when your focus is on the powerless it's hard to know how much of what you're seeing is really bigotry, and how much is just rage at that powerlessness. I think Jennifer smells a little rage here in the comments and it frightens her, so she labels it "antisemitism" or "white supremacism" or "conspiracy theories" so she won't have to deal with the real cause.

      And it's why she has an allergy for discussions of the lobby's damage to American society, a subject she dismisses as "right-wing patriotism."

      But I think she can rest confident that once she's out with her degree in Discourse Studies and is an Assistant Professor somewhere, she's never going to get called in by the department heads for rocking the boat.

    • PeaceThroughJustice August 19, 2015 at 2:50 am

      tokyoBK: "Members have been from every religious background and none."

      You're right, I'm sorry. In fact, didn't you have Sammy Davis Jr. over once?

      In any event, people can read Phil's account to form their own opinion of just how much universalism you and Shmully cultivated.

    • tokyoBK: " and for some Jews are the interesting part of this"

      Said the founder of a Jews-only club.
      http://mondoweiss.net/2012/04/shmully-and-guilt

    • jhitchcock: "Is abiding by universal antiracist principles starting to make more sense to some of you?"

      No, we're all against "universal antiracist principles" here.

      (What a silly girl.)

    • Yes. The mass coverage was all about "God damn America," but actually Wright's statements about zionism were what the elites were all talking about. For anyone who needs a refresher, the Wikipedia page has input from all the usual suspects, including Jeffrey Goldberg and the ADL--
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremiah_Wright#Controversies

  • Meeting Jimmy Carter
    • "I had been reading enormous amounts from right left and center about the Iraq war. Before and after."

      I've been here long enough to know that. :)

      "Had a great time digging."

      That's what's important. We're not going to fix everything, but we might as well enjoy the effort.

    • "Pulled my car over to get the call through"

      Thanks for participating Kathleen. It's important that voices like yours get through.

  • Roundtable on the Palestinian solidarity movement and Alison Weir
    • On the subject of "Antisemitism Studies"--

      For anyone who has access to Al Jazeera English (in Canada, Europe, or with a VPN connection here in the US), there's a fascinating interview with the late Professor Robert S Wistrich, described as "the foremost expert on anti-Semitism." It's a one-hour episode of "Head to Head" in front of the Oxford Union conducted by Mehdi Hasan.

      You'll get a glimpse into the warped mind of a man who very probably wrote one of the textbooks that our-guest-who-won't-go-away probably shed tears over.

      ANTI-SEMITISM AND ISLAMOPHOBIA: OLD FEARS, NEW THREATS?
      30 Apr 2015
      http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/headtohead/2015/04/anti-semitism-islamophobia-fears-threats-150401072138777.html

    • PeaceThroughJustice August 19, 2015 at 1:35 pm

      mcohen: "yes my friend judaism evolves through this very process,a neccessary process,whatever the consequences,however tragic,judaism must be continually refined so it can evolve and set a spiritual standard."

      Well I'm happy to see your time in the Catholic boarding school doesn't seem to have set back your theological studies.

      BTW, I haven't read the book yet so if you could give me the short version -- this whole process of tragic refinement, what happens in the end? Is there anything I should be worried about?

    • PeaceThroughJustice August 19, 2015 at 1:06 pm

      tokyBK: "I think there's another useful category, which I call a Jew-Hobbyist."

      In fact I was just saying to Shmully the other day over sherry at the club, as the shadows were lengthening outside and we were settling into our comfortable chairs to once again take up the cherished old topic from where we had left off, I said to him, "Shmully old chap, I do believe I've found it!" ...

    • TokyoBK: "The Jew Hobbyist will find the Jewish power element in any story and did so long before Israel. It seems to me a good deal of Jew Hobbyists gravitate to comments sections on I/P."

      You're just grasping the fact that the whole point of this blog is the discussion of Jewish power? Don't you remember Phil's family anecdote about pushing for war in Iraq? He repeats it often. People here insist on talking about how big it is and what's it being used for and what techniques it uses because they know that there would be no I/P conflict if it were not for Jewish power here in the U.S. That's why we "hobbyists" talk about it. Because it has been abused for so long. Why are you pretending not to know this?

    • "Threads that are affirmative of Jewish non-Zionism get about 5 comments if that."

      Maybe because people see zionism as a jewish-caused problem. Jewish non-zionism hasn't been a great success. After a while, people give up.

      (BTW, thnks for the video. I didn't realize that O'Keefe didn't actually say "F*ck'n Jews" like posters here have claimed. I should have know that they were lying.)

    • Annie wrote: "read like some overwrought undergrad senior thesis."

      So I take it you're not going to be taking her up on her offer --

      "Emma Live! contact emma to speak or perform for your organization or event"
      https://emmarosenthal.wordpress.com/

      (BTW it's Emma Rosenthal.)

    • PeaceThroughJustice August 17, 2015 at 5:22 pm

      W.Jones: And there's no doubt in my mind that what triggered JVP's attack on Weir was her emphasis on the lobby in this country. And what's even worse, she focused particularly on the media! (Remember that it was her media analyses that first brought attention to If Americans Knew.) Just talking about AIPAC, the ADL, etc. already brings us dangerously close to questions of dual loyalty. But promoting one's own interests is one thing -- sure it's selfish but everyone does that. But to discuss how the media is being used as a tool, that's really incendiary stuff because it implies a readiness to keep Americans in the dark -- to lie to them -- in order to promote one's own goals. That's not nice.

      (What first brought me to this whole field was the realization, back in 2001, that the media was witholding the motivation of the 9/11 bombers from the American public. It was known, there was no debate about it, but we were just flatly denied the opportunity to talk about it. That struck me as a huge injustice.)

    • PeaceThroughJustice August 17, 2015 at 4:52 pm

      W.Jones wrote: "Atzmon claims that Neturei Kartei is fine because it’s religious. ... "

      I agree with all of your analysis except the part about JVP being a religious organization. Atzmon meant religious in the sense of feeling a responsibility to something beyond just tribal self-interest. But for most people choosing to self-identify as "Jewish," we've been in the era of the so-called "secular Jew" for quite a few generations now -- where the tribal component of Jewish identity (the "peoplehood" part) has expanded to take the place of the missing (or shrunken) religious component. (Do you really think JVP asks prospective members theological questions? I think probably bloodlines are enough.)

      And finally, when the tribal has expanded far enough, when it has so metastasized that "what's good for the Jews" has swamped all the competing components of self-identity -- then you've got Zionism.

      (I know this sounds awfully glib. Of course there's a lot more to be said. And I don't mean to imply that everyone doesn't have some tribal components to their self-identity. But maybe some other time.)

    • Mooser wrote: " Years ago, I pushed the theory on Mondo (God forgive me) that American Jews and the “Jewish community” simply aren’t capable of doing much of anything about Zionism, not as the community is presently constituted."

      Funny, but that's exactly what Gilad Atzmon argued in his conversation with Phil from 2011 (Jennifer Hitchcock, shut your eyes) --
      http://mondoweiss.net/2011/06/i-found-my-identity-down-on-highway-61

      His argument was that the "Jewish left" is an oxymoron -- one can be either a universalist or tribal, but one cannot be both. What was your argument?

    • PeaceThroughJustice August 17, 2015 at 11:58 am

      Parity, thanks for the link to the JVP rabbi's talk. That's the talk Atzmon dissected, and it is indeed quite a remarkable event. We have a rabbi flying out to a group of Christian pastors (undoubtedly on their dime) to lecture them (in the tones of a schoolteacher confronting small children) on the theory that "antisemitism" is a disease that gentiles catch. (That's what her strange tri-partite organization is all about: here's the healthy patient, here he is with the first symptoms, and then here it has taken over his mind.) This is the standard Jewish understanding of the concept -- that unlike all other human behavior antisemitism is not a response to experiences of the world. Instead it is a disease which is caught (or is already latent) and works from the inside out. The model happens to have the corollary that antisemitism has NOTHING to do with perceptions of Jewish behavior.

      An alternative model (and the one that we apply to all the rest of human behavior) is that people are always responding to what they see going on around them. Maybe not always rationally -- maybe clouded by fear, or anger, or envy, or all our other weaknesses, maybe cruelly -- but they start out responding to what they see happening around them, not to something trapped inside them.

      I'll stop here for now, since I'm guessing this is already more than many people are prepared to accept. But consider the implications of the Alissa Wise model for a movement like the anti-zionist struggle. Because if there really is a disease that renders gentile brains untrustworthy, then all we can do is sit back and wait for the Rabbi Wise's of this world to save us. And they haven't been working very fast.

    • PeaceThroughJustice August 17, 2015 at 10:22 am

      Preston Enright wrote: "I’ve seen a usually progressive person absorb a lot of unchallenged anti-Semitic political theorizing, and the next thing I knew this person was posting support for an advocate for the Oath Keepers militia, who openly embraces David Duke, and gives lectures where he talks about “the fuc*ing Jews.”"

      That must have been a harrowing experience for you, Preston . I'm sorry you had to watch that.

      BTW, I've heard that when that happens hair begins to grow out of their faces and they begin to howl. Is that true?

    • PeaceThroughJustice August 17, 2015 at 3:08 am

      And notatall, in addition to what tree wrote, I couldn't find anything about an “alien plot to kill 60 million white Christian Russians." Did you just add that in yourself?

    • PeaceThroughJustice August 17, 2015 at 2:49 am

      W.Jones wrote: "Can you or anyone give some insight into the Corrie Foundation’s declaration against Weir?"

      That is very disappointing. All I can do is look at the chronology of events:

      Of all the allegations in the JVP dossier on Weir, the most recent refers to an event in 2011. Then four years go by. Then JVP sends out the dossier to their 50 chapters on May 20, 2015. On July 16, 2015, End the Occupation issues their condemnation of Weir. On Aug. 13, 2015 the Rachel Corrie Foundation issues their condemnation of Weir. Perhaps these events are related?

    • PeaceThroughJustice August 16, 2015 at 11:26 pm

      Kris wrote:"How useful is a discussion in which the major term remains undefined?"?

      Obviously incredibly useful to some, if it's gotten you so frightened to use your own mind.

    • Kris wrote: "Annie and the other moderators spend a lot of time weeding out antisemitic comments; obviously, they have a working definition they use to identify antisemitism. Moderators–Please share your working definition, with examples!!!!!

      Kris, why is it so important for you to hear a definition of this dubious concept "antisemitism"? As Annie pointed out, we've already got plenty of words in our vocabulary to describe our failings as human beings -- prejudice, racism, bigotry, fear of a minority, envy, anger. Why assume there's some further mystical concept needed to understand the world? Don't give someone else control of the categories through which you view the world. That would be "gatekeeping" at its most pernicious level.

    • PeaceThroughJustice August 16, 2015 at 6:30 pm

      OMG! Jennifer's doing research on a new dossier!

      jhitchcock August 16, 2015, 2:46 pm

      Well said, Phil.

      http://mondoweiss.net/2015/08/ushers-crisis-israel#comment-151389

      All you "America-Firsters," "patriots," and "lobby-watchers," be on your best behavior (particularly if you're white).

    • When will this scourge of antisemitism be wiped out?!

      "Jewish Labour MP hits out at Jeremy Corbyn's record on antisemitism"
      http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/aug/14/jewish-labour-mp-jeremy-corbyn-antisemitism-record-ivan-lewis

      Note the phrase, "record on antisemitism". What does that mean? Kinda like "record of antisemitism"? No, actually, it turns out that the charge -- surprise, surprise -- is once again "associating" with antisemites. Poor rabbi Alissa Wise at JVP is having all her suspicions of gentiles confirmed once again! They'll talk with anyone!

      (Let's see if the if the Tony Greenstein/JSF crowd have anything to say. They've always hated Corbyn's ally George Galloway.)

    • PeaceThroughJustice August 16, 2015 at 12:48 pm

      taxi: "GatekeeperGate"

      Deserves repeating.

    • PeaceThroughJustice August 16, 2015 at 3:29 am

      mtorres: "Heartening to see how this roundtable has slowly clarified the issue, and to see that the organizations hurt most badly are the two responsible for this unconscionable attack on Weir."

      I agree that reputations of JVP and EtO have been hurt, but people shouldn't think this was a victimless crime. As I wrote earlier, the JVP allegations have already gone up on the Wikipedia page for If Americans Knew, where they'll always remain. And every time Weir goes to a town and the hosting organization wants to make use of a library meeting room, the local Jewish community organization will quote these allegations to the town officials in their attempts to block her appearance (just as they did in my town).

      And we can only imagine what it must feel like to Weir personally, to be insulted publicly by such silly, insolent fools as Spencer Sunshine, Emma Rosenthal, Jennifer Hitchcock, and that gang of crotchety ultra-ethnicists who hang out at Jews Sans Frontieres.

    • PeaceThroughJustice August 16, 2015 at 1:44 am

      "Maintaining a status of nonantisemite is not easy and requires much diligent study."

      Actually the best the gentile can hope to do is hold it in check, for it will always be there, waiting to break out. That's how G-d made them.

    • Annie's sanity, as always, has held this "discussion" together. Thanks.

      BTW, I was just re-reading tree's long post to Jennifer (August 14, 2015, 7:48 pm). Boy, if she's not working as a professional writer of some sort, then the planet is not managing its resources properly.

    • I think it's time for a little damage assessment. Who solicited this piece from Jennifer Hitchcock? I don't want to attack her because I think she has been both brave and loyal to people she considers to be her friends. But it's clear she hasn't really thought about any of the issues at hand and, more importantly, she's not even an officer of JVP and she didn't have any say in the decision to blacklist Alison. So why is she here? Were officials from JVP asked to participate? Did they refuse? And why have they left Jennifer swinging in the wind like this? Have they nothing to say to any of the points that have been raised?

      And is there any chance we can hear something from the cowardly EtO -- just who on their board of trustees initiated this process that so neatly aligned with JVP's preoccupations? Was it the JVP member by any chance? Was it really a democratic process? Has there been any feedback from their other members?

    • PeaceThroughJustice August 15, 2015 at 1:34 am

      Thanks for that, Henry. I highly recommend people listen to your interview.

    • Bye Jennifer.

      "I guess I may have helped Weir sell a few books, though"

      Alison Weir has been trudging around this country speaking at libraries and churches in small towns for more than 10 years -- wherever she could get a hearing. She spoke at the town where I live, but only because the local Jewish community organization had failed to block the event. This is a case where someone has given their life to a cause -- for Weir the cause of disentangling America from zionism. Even if you don't share her cause, don't you worry about the damage you have done to her? Is the evil of intentionally destroying someone's life work worse than the evil of speaking on a right-wing radio outlet?

      (BTW, JVP's accusations have already been plastered over the Wikepedia page for If Americans Knew -- right next to Abe Foxman's.)

    • PeaceThroughJustice August 13, 2015 at 12:16 pm

      "Let's start a group for peace and justice in the world!" "OK, I'm with you, what should we do for our very FIRST act, to get us off on the right foot?" "We'll name it after ourselves and make sure that only our people can lead it."

    • I dropped USCampaign off my donation list when I heard they had let JVP browbeat them. Deeply disappointing.

      Personally, I think JVP's real problem is that Weir is expanding the movement to audiences outside of their ability to gatekeep. (And, unlike JVP, she speaks about the power of the lobby.)

  • President Obama wants us to argue about the special relationship
    • PeaceThroughJustice August 11, 2015 at 7:10 pm

      Talking about the lobby means talking about power and this is particularly difficult for many American Jews, because holding power conflicts with the notion of passive victimhood. Once you've acknowledged power you're forced to take up responsibility for how that power is being used, and that raises difficult moral questions of your relation to your neighbor.

      I remember back in the early Observer days of Mondoweiss when Phil was first trying to broach the subject of the community's vast power in polite conversation. I can still remember the day -- probably sometime around 2006 -- when he actually used the words "Jewish power" for the first time and what a shocking experience it was to see those words in print. It was like a lightning bolt had struck. I remember his college chum "Realistic Dove" (Dan Fleshler) almost had a heart attack and begged him to reconsider, to pull back, to think of the forces he was unleashing. But the earth didn't swallow him up, there were no pogroms, and he's kept going ever since. (Although the Observer did fire him within a year.)

  • The enemies list
    • PeaceThroughJustice August 11, 2015 at 11:04 am

      Good list. A couple more from my notes --

      William Fulbright
      "Pete" McCloskey
      Adlai Stevenson
      Ron Paul

      (And when reading lists like this I think it's important to think not just of the private lives that were damaged or destroyed, but of the damage to the whole political system when you eliminate an entire class of principled, committed voices (from both left and right). These are the kind of voices that inspire young people. The tribalists have played a big part in creating the general atmosphere of disrespect for all politics. )

  • Netanyahu for president? He's been a citizen-- twice!
    • From a 2007 Phil Weiss article on the subject--

      You used to forfeit your citizenship by voting in another country or fighting for one. The law on forfeiting citizenship ended in the late 60s on a 5-4 Supreme Court vote in a--you guessed it--Israel-based case, where a Jewish-American artist who had voted in Israel wanted to move back here. Thus a 200-year precedent crumbled.
      http://mondoweiss.net/2007/01/dual_loyalty_wh

      This was the infamous Afroyim v. Rusk case that JLewisDickerson linked to above, which "opened the way for a wider acceptance of multiple citizenship in United States law."

  • It's not bigoted to call out the Israel lobby over Iran Deal
    • PeaceThroughJustice August 10, 2015 at 12:18 am

      "... who asked not to be named because of the sensitivity of the issue"

      LOL What exactly do you think he was worried about, Hops? Was he embarrassed about "preserving the social safety net"?

    • OMG! This sounds scary--
      "Iran Already Sanitizing Nuclear Site, Intel Warns"
      by Josh Rogin & Eli Lake
      http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-08-05/iran-already-sanitizing-parchin-nuclear-site-intel-warns
      http://www.rferl.org/content/why-parchin-central-to-iran-nuclear-crisis/27178552.html

      "The Parchin military facility is back at center stage in the Iran nuclear crisis as new satellite images show vehicles and container-like objects being moved near a location where Iran is suspected of conducting past nuclear-related tests. ... "

      I suspect we're going to be seeing a lot of stories like this. Even if the coming veto is upheld (which I personally think is doubtful), just forcing a veto will be a huge success for the forces of war, since it transforms the deal into something highly controversial in the public's mind. The warmongers can wait -- just as the campaign to sell the Iraq war was a multi-year effort, Americans will just be showered with stories like this until they finally just throw up their hands and say go ahead. Remember the laptop "evidence" of prior weapons development? There's always plenty more where that came from.

      (BTW, the current story appears to originate with David Albright.)

      We're an occupied country and I'm afraid this little skirmish over the veto isn't going to end it. They've still got 30% of our economy and 80% of our media so why should they stop?

    • Boy, we're lucky to have Annie.

  • Shocker: 'NYT' runs front page press release for AIPAC warning Obama to cool his jets
  • Defying Obama on Iran deal, Schumer cites Hamas
    • "He had to act in the best interest of the U.S. Still he faced pressure from Israel supporters. ... will get 2 say they were the tough holdouts."

      Phil and Scott Roth sound as if Schumer is being forced to oppose the deal against his better judgement (presumably by the "Jewish establishment"). That's not how Zionism works. True, those gentile politicians we saw on TV last night are being forced to support Israel by the billionaires, but Jewish Zionists like Schumer are doing it because that's what their mothers taught them.

      If there's a game of optics going on I expect it's going to be working in the opposite direction: watch out for people publicly stating they're all for the deal, but privately working to make sure it falls apart. The only reason Schumer would have blown his cover like this is because he's calculated that he might still be able to stop it.

  • Obama ushers in the crisis of the Israel lobby
  • Obama tells Americans it is 'abrogation of my constitutional duty' to defer to Israel on Iran Deal
  • Netanyahu will lobby American Jews on deal, calling on alleged loyalty to Jewish state
    • PeaceThroughJustice August 4, 2015 at 1:53 am

      "We’re having a vigorous conversation about the influence of the rightwing Israel lobby, and the implicit call for dual loyalty that Zionism depends upon."

      Links, please.

      Because I still am not seeing any discussion of the idea of jewish zionist dual loyalty at all, except when the very subject is being denounced as "antisemitic" -- which of course is exactly what Nathan Guttman is implicitly doing in that Forward article you quote.

  • It's time for American Jews to recognize they have been duped
    • PeaceThroughJustice July 26, 2015 at 4:20 pm

      "It’s time for American Jews to recognize they have been duped."

      Even better, let's get American gentiles to realize they've been duped. Then the Jewish community could work out their issues at their own pace, without causing so much damage and pain to others while they're doing it.

  • Christian Zionists expose their anti-Semitism at conservative summit in Iowa
    • PeaceThroughJustice July 24, 2015 at 6:38 pm

      Now I know "antisemitism" serves as a kind of universal explanatory principle for a lot of well-meaning posters here, but are you sure that simply holding the belief that many Jews will convert to Christianity in the end days is "antisemitic"?

      Are there any other thoughts you would like to outlaw while we're at it?

  • Video footage reveals IDF soldier shot fleeing teen
    • PeaceThroughJustice July 13, 2015 at 11:56 am

      Judging by the Google translation of the video's hebrew comments, Israelis are quite proud of what they see. Comments are running along the lines of, "Each bomber shot in the head, the only way peace will come."

  • Cultivating megadonors, Clinton waffles on Iran and stands by Netanyahu
  • 'A traumatized society is dangerous'
  • Guess who sent me this letter
    • "many older Jews are Zionists in their guts; they feel the west will always be unsafe and we need a Jewish state"

      Saying it's "the west" that makes Jewish Zionists uncomfortable makes it sound as if we're dealing with a political or institutional problem, that could be resolved by continually adapting new more liberal laws. But if the real problem is that it's gentiles that make them uncomfortable, then this problem is never going to go away.

      The reason that nearly one-half of all Jews still will not allow themselves to marry a non-jew is not that they fear for their safety.

  • State Dep't report on latest Gaza onslaught itemizes children's deaths for first time
  • Schumer says Jewish and American interests on Iran deal differ but he has 'to do what's right for U.S.'
    • PeaceThroughJustice June 11, 2015 at 8:10 pm

      US senator says he has to do what's right for the US. What else did you expect him to say? This is the setup. There's plenty of time to come up with a detail that he knows will be unacceptable to the Iranians.

      Not a chance in hell he's ever going to back a US rapprochement with Israel's rival.

  • US and Israeli pressure on Nigeria to sell out Palestine at U.N. amounted to 'national security threat'
    • "The pressure is of course reminiscent of U.S. lobbying for the partition resolution of 1947, the UN Special Committee on Palestine."

      And reminiscent of U.S. lobbying in 1991 to repeal the General Assembly's declaration that zionism is racism.

  • The U.S. is at last facing the neocon captivity
    • "Saddam Hussein had funded suicide bombings."

      Stop repeating this old lie.

      Israel's policy was bulldoze the houses of the families of suicide bombers, as well as the houses of relatives. Iraq, like the rest of the world (but not the US Congress), protested against this barbaric policy and sent aid to the homeless families. This is not "funding suicide bombings."

  • Front-page attack in New York Times says BDS movement is driven by minorities' 'hostility toward Jews'
    • "Do you really believe “Israel” is a racist bastard state? Then try sounding like you mean it."

      Sometimes it seems Phil's main concern is the public image and reputation of his people, which he is intent on saving. While this is ultimately related to the well-being of the Palestinian people, it is not the same thing.

      And it raises the question of what he's going to do if his "reawakening of the Jewish conscience" stalls out at the 5% level?

  • No Palestinians need apply to program on 'Palestinian issue' at Center for American 'Progress'
    • Is Brian Katulis Jewish? I'm just asking because it sure would be nice, because then we could all seven participants of both panels, AND both moderators Jewish!

      What are the chances of that?!

  • 'NYT' addresses pro-Israel donors' influence over Congress
    • PeaceThroughJustice April 5, 2015 at 10:04 pm

      "The Jewish community is openly fracturing over the occupation, ... some big Jewish Democratic givers will be against that aid."

      I hate to rain on your parade, but common sense suggests that it's one thing for a few rebellious kids to enjoy making their parents squirm, but it's quite another for people holding power and responsibility to actually put their money where there mouth is, so to speak. Name me one big Jewish Democratic personality (either political official, financial donor, or media voice) that you can even imagine some day coming out against tribalism. I can't.

      In fact, when it comes down to it, I forecast there's going to be a closing of the ranks even against finalizing the Iran deal. Watch which way Hillary turns. She's no dummy.

    • PeaceThroughJustice April 5, 2015 at 9:24 pm

      BTW, when corporate lawyer Bialkin said, "It was a love fest," I'm guessing he wasn't expressing criticism --

      National Chair, Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith (1982-1986)
      Chair, Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations (1984-1986)
      President, Jewish Community Relations Council of New York (1989-1992)
      Chair, America-Israel Friendship League (1996-Present)
      President, American Jewish Historical Society (1998-Present)
      Chairman Emeritus, American Jewish Historical Society

      https://www.skadden.com/professionals/kenneth-j-bialkin

  • Bibi talk: 'New York Review of Books' trivializes Israeli fascism
    • PeaceThroughJustice April 3, 2015 at 11:25 am

      Hederman and Silvers at NYRB are stuck. If it turns out "the leader of the Jewish people" is not essentially bumbling but well-intentioned, then what happens to the gentiles' "antisemitism"?

  • In Israel, the mask is finally off
  • US Court of Appeals upholds discriminatory ruling against transit ads critical of Israel
    • PeaceThroughJustice March 22, 2015 at 2:39 pm

      Just one Jewish zionist more or less, in a position of power can make all the difference.

    • It was a 2-1 decision from the court. The three judges were--
      Morgan Christen (who opposed banning the ads)
      Paul J. Watford (supported)
      Alex Kozinski (supported)

      According to his Wikipedia entry, that third judge is a rather interesting character. Among other things --

      In 2008, The Los Angeles Times revealed Kozinski "maintained a publicly accessible website featuring sexually explicit photos and videos."[9] In response, Kozinski called for an ethics investigation of himself.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Kozinski

      But of course judges are there for life.

  • Cotton's rise was fueled by pro-Israel money-- but 'NYT' and Matthews won't tell you so
    • PeaceThroughJustice March 12, 2015 at 12:40 pm

      "Now it turns out Jews overwhelmingly are siding with Obama, and the Israel lobby is broken apart. “From what I’m hearing, Jews across the political spectrum are mortified & furious at the shit Netanyahu, AIPAC & the GOP pulled this month,” MJ Rosenberg says."

      Well, yes and no. From what I'm reading they're mainly mortified and furious at the risk of politicization of support for Israel.

      Let's not let our optimism mislead us.

  • Neocon meteor Sen. Cotton is funded by Abrams, Adelson and Kristol and loves war a little too much
  • Netanyahu's consciousness-raising
  • 'NYT' reports 'surge of hostile sentiment against Jews' nationwide -- on what basis?
    • "... without offering any evidence of such anti-Semitism"

      Everyone knows you don't need to offer evidence for "antisemitism". It's the default state of the universe, like gravity.

  • WSJ columnist says 'I'm almost grateful' for attack on kosher supermarket that killed four
    • PeaceThroughJustice March 5, 2015 at 6:16 pm

      It wasn't widely reported here, but the supermarket gunman (Amedy Coulibaly) conducted a telephone interview with a French radio station during the stand-off. His message: "Leave the Muslims alone and we will leave you alone."

      "Each time, they try to make you believe that the Muslims are terrorists. But I was born in France. If they hadn't attacked elsewhere, I would not be here."

      Nothing about "being Jewish."

      http://rt.com/news/221503-paris-gunman-argues-hostages/

      BTW, back when Bret Stephens was editor-in-chief of the Jerusalem Post in 2003, he named Paul Wolfowitz the paper's "Man of the Year" for his role in starting the Iraq war.

  • Netanyahu's speech and the American Jewish condition
  • 'Large group' of indigenous Indians are cleared to immigrate to Israel and convert to Judaism
    • PeaceThroughJustice February 22, 2015 at 11:06 am

      "This guy is making some waves ... "

      Thanks for the link Brewer. this is a good place to file another link to a similar study from 2001 --

      JOURNAL AXES GENE RESEARCH ON JEWS AND PALESTINIANS
      Robin McKie, Guardian, November 25, 2001
      http://www.guardian.co.uk/genes/article/0,2763,605806,00.html

      A keynote research paper showing that Middle Eastern Jews and Palestinians are genetically almost identical has been pulled from a leading journal. ... The journal, having accepted the paper earlier this year, now claims the article was politically biased and was written using 'inappropriate' remarks about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Its editor told the journal Nature last week that she was threatened by mass resignations from members if she did not retract the article. ... Academics who have already received copies of Human Immunology have been urged to rip out the offending pages and throw them away.

      You might want to read that last sentence again: "ACADEMICS WHO HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED COPIES OF HUMAN IMMUNOLOGY HAVE BEEN URGED TO RIP OUT THE OFFENDING PAGES AND THROW THEM AWAY."

      The genetic finding was not particularly surprising to me, as I had always assumed it to be the case. For me this primarily was another story to be filed under Tribalist Influence Over Our Media -- the amazing extent of tribalist power and how blatantly it is being abused.

  • The left needs to stop hounding Elizabeth Warren on Palestine, says Warren supporter
    • Those are two very different accounts of the evening, Lenchner's and The New Yorker's. Did the questioning stop and the dancing start or not? Guess we'll never know. All we know for sure is that it's Lenchner who is running the Warren Presidential Draft Campaign. Just possibly he could be in marketeering mode. (By the way, have we reached the point where Israelis running US presidential candidates is no longer commented on?)

      Maybe if we heard a little about what this "Israeli refusenik" has ever actually said and done on the subject of zionism, we'd be in a position to know whether to take him seriously or not. (After all, even the Dersh claims to be a "long time opponent of the occupation.") Because otherwise this is just damage control undertaken by an ambitious courtier.

      I'd love to know if Lenchner expanded on his comment, "Trying to extrapolate from how Warren behaves as a politician to what the organizations supporting her believe is a fundamental error. There’s no connection." I have no idea what this means. Is it something he's proud of?

      "Lenchner also advised those in the grassroots left that if they want to sincerely engage in the Democratic primary process, “if the goal is to push people on Palestine,” they should drop the strident tone."

      Why?

  • When gay rights trample racial justice: Why the NYC Council should cancel its Israel junket
  • New York coalition tries, and struggles, to politicize free Israel trip for legislators
  • Netanyahu 'babysitter' ad warns that Labor will give away Israel's house and carpet
    • PeaceThroughJustice February 3, 2015 at 9:10 pm

      I would have thought the most telling aspect of the ad was the closing message: "Peace, but not unconditionally".

      By the way, why does Allison assume that Israelis' desire to keep the territories is born out of a desire for "security"? I know that's the message that's been sent to the world, but there's no evidence either they or Netanyahu actually believe it.

  • Since when is the Southern Poverty Law Center a pro-Israel organization?
    • "When will liberal groups, from SPLC to People for the American Way to Rachel Maddow’s show, begin to reflect progressive public opinion?"

      Not until your long-awaited revolution in the American Jewish community finally gets here. Or until the gentiles are finally allowed to talk about the extent of Jewish power in the society.

  • Video: Racist Israel supporter films himself attacking Toronto students, urinating on BDS poster
    • Smells like a fake event to me. (Why would an angry protester record a video of himself? And how did the video get published?)

      Probably just as fake as those Jewish Zionists who anonymously post "antisemitic" comments into threads about Israel. Only this time it seems to be in reverse.

      I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it.

  • Sony email chain on behalf of Israel joined Russell Simmons and Michael Lynton with rightwing Zionists
    • PeaceThroughJustice December 24, 2014 at 11:45 pm

      "the email chain here surely represents a cultural consensus about Israel inside the establishment."

      But Americans are never going to understand why this is so until we can start to mention that virtually the entire group is Jewish -- not just Sony CEO Lynton and Luntz and Portman and Stengel, but also producer Ryan Kavanaugh who started the chain. In fact, only one person in Phil's list of characters in this episode is not Jewish -- and that's Russell Simmons who is a Transcendental Meditationist.

      Talk about cultural influence.

  • When Rouhani says blaming ISIS on Islam is Islamophobic, is anyone listening?
  • US gave surveillance data to a country 'hostile' to many Americans -- Bamford
    • "... Chris Matthews calling out the neoconservatives as being motivated by Israeli security"

      Actually, Matthews doesn't call out anyone as being motivated by Israeli security, and he never will because then he would have to explain (not least to himself) why it took so many years to name the tribal elephant.

      What he does say (at 1:30) is that the war was marketed as potentially turning the Arab nations into Israel's friends, which, it is implied, would have been a good thing if only it had worked. This is not just morally reprehensible, but also false -- given how carefully all mention of Israel was kept out of the 2002 marketing campaign.

      I'm glad to hear a little pushback here against the neocon/liberal-interventionist line, but to expect Chris Matthews to ever call out the people who employ him, publish his books, pay his speaking engagements, and constitute his social set, is expecting way too much.

  • Yale president's office was involved from the gitgo in blowup over Yale chaplain's letter
  • Encounter at a post office
    • PeaceThroughJustice September 15, 2014 at 8:26 pm

      You can handle it, Yonah.

    • Off Topic:

      I wish Phil's much touted revolution in the Jewish community would hurry up and get here. Here's the list of journalists Obama chose to pitch his ISIS policy to --

      The group, which met in the Roosevelt Room of the White House in an off-the-record session, included New York Times columnists David Brooks, Tom Friedman and Frank Bruni and editorial writer Carol Giacomo; The Washington Post's David Ignatius, Eugene Robinson and Ruth Marcus; The New Yorker's Dexter Filkins and George Packer; The Atlantic's Jeffrey Goldberg and Peter Beinart; The New Republic's Julia Ioffe; Columbia Journalism School Dean Steve Coll; The Wall Street Journal's Jerry Seib; and The Daily Beast's Michael Tomasky, a source familiar with the meeting told The Huffington Post.
      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/13/obama-journalists-isis-speech_n_5816494.html

      By my count, that's roughly one-half who are commited Jewish Zionists. Now that may indeed be a wonderful thing, what with the Holocaust and everything, but it does represent a rather limited range of foreign policy perspectives.

  • ISIS and Israel allies against a Palestinian state
    • " 95-96% of Israelis approved of the massacre."

      I'm sure you know this, but it's worth repeating: it was 95% of Israel's Jewish population that was cheering, not the entire population. (Public polls in Israel often take it for granted that they're only interested in what Jews think.)

  • Front-page 'NYT' piece on foreign influence on D.C. thinktanks leaves out Israel
    • PeaceThroughJustice September 8, 2014 at 9:32 am

      P.S. And that's in one year!

    • "What little information the organizations volunteer about their donors, along with public records and lobbying reports filed with American officials by foreign representatives, indicates a minimum of $92 million in contributions or commitments from overseas government interests over the last four years."

      Just taking AIPAC ($90M), WINEP ($9M), and the ADL ($45M), we're at $144M. And that doesn't include the AJC, the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish Organizations, the 153 Jewish Federations, or the individual contributions of people like Haim Saban, Sheldon Adelson, Bruce Kovner, and Paul Singer to the think tanks like Brookings, AEI, Hudson, Manhattan Institute, etc.
      http://www.unz.com/article/billionaires-make-war-on-iran/

  • Naomi Wolf to debate genocide charge against Israel with Shmuley Boteach
    • Boteach may be the celebrity rabbi, but I'm not expecting much from the author of Vagina: A New Biography and The Lesbian Community. This is a "celebrity intellectual," who plays it safe by sticking with identity politics. If her heart was really in it, we would have heard from her before now.

      If it must be a Naomi, I'd be more interested in hearing from Naomi Klein.

  • Coming to a campus near you: ADL recruits student politicians for Israel trips
    • Headline we won't see: "Galloway Attacked by Jewist Extremist"

      Here is the wide range of Neil Masterson's interests, from his Facebook page--

      Conservatives, David Cameron, Better Together, MiG-29 Fulcrum, United with Jerusalem, With Israel. Against fascist Hamas., Rupert Hayes Hairdressing, ‎‎‎‎רפואת ילדים להורים‎, ‎אגדה מתחם האירועים‎‎, ‎‎משרד עורכת דין עדי ביבר לקואה - דיני עבודה‎, JMA Jewish Media Agency‎‎, Beta Gershom, American Friends of LIBI, I love Israel, Canaan Online‎‎‎, World Forum of Russian-speaking Jewry, Shadows of Shoah | Holocaust, Sharing Israel, ARCHEOLOGY ISRAEL, Creative Community For Peace, I Care About the IDF, Tel Aviv, ‎‎KLM UK, Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, ‎‎חרם על מוצרים מתורכיה‎, ‎אמרי יוסף‎‎‎, ‎‎Pat Condell, ‎הפטריה- טיפול בפטרת ציפורניים‎‎, Campaign Against Antisemitism UK, Israël : Je me Defends donc je Suis, Britain First‎‎‎, ‎‎‎Cioccolato valore italiano 1895, Bobby Bruce sweet, ‎‎דנה זוהרים - זוהרים לאירועים • מסיבת רווקות • אביזרים למסיבות‎, ‎לאקי סטייל נושי בע"מ‎‎‎, RC Collezioni Milano Italia, Standing With IDF-Worldwide, Supporting Israel, Yes 2 Israel‎, Seaside Caravans, Man City, Man City Fans, Never Again, Jews News, The Jewish Press, John Hagee Ministries, VirtualJerusalem.com, Israel Forever Foundation‎‎, ‎The Israel Project, Spirit of Israel, I stand with Israel, Stand with Israel, Aphrodite Creations, Shavei Israel, StandWithUs, World Jewish Congress, IDF Spokesperson, World Zionist Organization - Israel, UK friends of Israel, Israel Solidarity Campaign, UK., Conservative Friends of Israel, Conservative Friends of Israel, I Support Israel, Israel, Jerusalem, Capital of Israel, ‎‎‎‎‎Benjamin Netanyahu - בנימין נתניהו‎, IDF Women‎, The Prime Minister of Israel, Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs‎, Jerusalem Prayer Team, United With Israel, The Jewish Agency for Israel, The White House‎, Stand for Israel, The Times of Israel, Israel Navy, Friends of the IDF (FIDF), The Jerusalem Post | JPost.com, Israel Air Force, Christians United for Israel (CUFI), Israel Defense Forces, Marcus Borg

  • Our new look
    • PeaceThroughJustice August 25, 2014 at 7:07 pm

      "I also found it impossible to cut and paste text from the article to use in a comment."

      Actually you can highlight text to cut and past it; it's just that the highlighting color is so pale it's almost unnoticeable. (Also, the pasted text has that annoying "See more at ... " appended. Please get rid of this.

  • Rob Reiner wants to pick Palestinians' leaders for them
    • BTW, just where has Hamas called for "the destruction of every Jew on the planet." Anyone want to give a link? I know that for most Zio-Jews it's part of the faith that all gentiles secretly long for their destruction, but if this paranoia is going to be used to justify aggression like the attack on Gaza, shouldn't we ask for some documentation?

  • US branch of the Jewish 'family' owes the homeland 'unconditional love' -- Rosner
  • Rep. Steve Israel tweets his meeting with Mikey Weiss of Roslyn Heights -- but not Netanyahu
    • PeaceThroughJustice August 9, 2014 at 10:26 pm

      BTW Steve Israel is chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. That means he decides which candidates should get campaign funding help. (A job Rahm Emmanuel held before him during the 2006 election cycle.)

  • Despite potential groundswell, Congress reluctant to recognize Palestinian rights
    • Congratulations, and thanks.

      "Do you suppose they were "Israeli firsters" on the Congressperson's staff. Moles for AIPAC maybe?"

      Part of AIPAC's service to the country has been the arranging of free interns for cash-strapped congressmen. (Walt and Mearsheimer described this.) Since learning this I've never been able to call my congressman's office without worrying that my comments were likely to disappear.

      It's all part of the corruption of our political system that Zionism produces.

  • Jodi Rudoren and Abe Foxman mull over 'the Arabs' owning New York hotel

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