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  • The formal end of the two-state solution
    • It is a very hard mindset to break but it only has 20-30 years left, I think once the current generation starts to assume power Israel will have a great deal of trouble controlling the narrative.

      Fortunately, Israeli actions are ultimately alienating and as such self-defeating, however, it may be far too late to be of any benefit to the Palestinians in terms of a state.

    • What would justify the stance by our government at the UN more than an Israeli cyber attack?

      At this point, I would rate New Zealand as generally sympathetic to the Palestinian plight but we still have a large percentage of the population (Generally older folk) who buy into the "Islam = Terrorism view and these same people are trapped into a post WW2 mindset, the one thing that would change that rapidly would be an idiotic reaction from the Israeli government.

    • I think people are reading far too much into Nutty's words, he is clearly shooting his mouth off as a display of strength to his supporters meanwhile here in New Zealand we find it amusing but on the whole we give more air time to the road toll.

      I suspect our indifference is driven by several factors:
      1. Most people here have no idea who he is and we are used to tirades by middle eastern dictators.
      2. New Zealand has never been overly fond of Israel ever since we started catching them stealing identities.
      3. We understand logistics and the benefits of being miles from anywhere.

      My guess is that he is simply trying to deflect attention from his own issues and has no problem coming across like a petulant school boy in the process.

      It will be interesting to see what Trump does but given most people see him as an irrational lunatic I doubt too many are worried about him either.

      In short I doubt anyone in New Zealand is losing sleep over this but it has provided hours of mirth in an otherwise run of the mill xmas holiday.

  • Israel's real fear about the Iran deal: It puts pressure on the occupation
  • 'We should seize it' -- Obama announces Iran deal as 'new direction' for the Middle East
    • Hang on a sec I have been to the Middle East and I haven't read the deal so I have no idea whether it is a good or a bad one but I am assuming it is a deal everyone can live with or it would not have been signed.

      On the whole I hope this normalises Iran's relations with the world as it is a country I would love to visit one day.

  • Accusations of anti-Semitism roil Stanford campus as student coalition denies discrimination charges
    • If gay marriage rights were a legitimate issue at the school then I think it would be a valid question.

      People have a right to know who they are voting for and what they stand for otherwise it is impossible to make an informed choice.

  • Understanding the Jewish National Home
    • Bumblebye April 20, 2015, 2:47 pm

      @ An American Critic

      Time and time again that solution has been suggested.

      Time and time again the zionist commenters describe it as the destruction of Israel.

      Sadly, the Israel they love is the racist, expansionist, thieving, ethnic cleansing entity that exists now.
      - See more at: April 20, 2015, 2:47 pm

      @ Bumblebye

      Time and time again that solution has been suggested.

      Time and time again the zionist commenters describe it as the destruction of Israel.

      Sadly, the Israel they love is the racist, expansionist, thieving, ethnic cleansing entity that exists now.

      This is my argument though, the one thing that may bring Israel to the table looking for an end to this farce is the knowledge that it will not have the choice to maintain the status-quo and be forced to give Palestinians equality within and all encompassing Israel thus bringing about the destruction of the "Jewish" state.

      I think the only genuine fear Israel has is in having to accept Palestinians as equal citizens and it may be enough of a fear for Israel to cut its losses and accept a Palestinian state.

    • Gotta love the extremists. Only they would say that entire pro-Palestinian set of pieces should be suppressed because the author favors peace between Jews and Palestinians."

      Surely you are going to extremes when you claim there is conflict between Jews and Palestinians wouldn't it be more accurate to say Israeli's and Palestinians as I am not aware of any issues between Palestinians and Jews outside Israel.

    • @DGF. “the only way forward is to abandon the two state solution and start treating Israel as a whole as an apartheid state”. Absolutely not, the Palestinians would never allow themselves to be absorbed by Israel, it would amount to a complete surrender to Zionism. The only viable route to a one-state solution would be a voluntary merger of the two existing states, and for that to happen Palestine must first gain its independence. - See more at:

      Palestine will never gain its independence until Israel is pushed into a position of its own destruction and the only thing that will bring that about short of a war (which I am not advocating) is the realisation that for it to achieve its goals of annexing the West Bank it will also receive a giant Palestinian population and lose its "Jewishness".

      Lets be honest here it is clearly Israels aim to make life in the West Bank and Gaza so inhospitable for Palestinians that they will leave, this is not an occupation it is a parasitic colonisation and the only way it will end is by Palestinians throwing caution to the wind and pushing to become one state thus forcing Israel to choose between its own eventual destruction by becoming a multicultural society or cutting its losses and getting out of Palestinian territories, the world can give it a helping hand by declaring Israel an apartheid state and boycotting it.

    • While two states may exist legally it is a physical and logistical impossibility for a Palestinian state to function as a state under the territorial boundaries it would be offered.

      For a Palestinian state to become viable there would have to be a major shift in Israeli policy and I do not believe that is likely.

      I would suggest that it is wishful, perhaps even delusional (no insult intended) to believe that Israel intends to withdraw to the 1967 borders which is the minimum required for a viable Palestinian state.

      I certainly agree with the idea of two nations within a single state but I struggle to see how they would ever be nations of equals but I believe the only way forward is to abandon the two state solution and start treating Israel as a whole as an apartheid state.

  • Poster questioning Zionism makes her feel 'unsafe', Wellesley student says
    • "What does that even mean? ”Peace through health care”? "

      I think it is an unfortunate comment as whenever I hear it I think of astronaut John Landon's lobotomy from Planet of the Apes.

  • Mr. Netanyahu, what is your endgame?
    • I think that is part of it but my suspicion would be that since casualty rates for Israeli troops actually coming face to face with Hamas are going to be unacceptably high he will simply park outside us artillery/ships/aircraft to kill and destroy as many and as much as he can until the USA can no longer justify his actions to themselves and he has to stop.

  • With ceasefire set to expire, Palestinians aim to lift the siege while Israel wants to turn 'Gaza into Ramallah'
    • I would suggest that continually extending this truce while getting nothing in return is simply playing into Israels hands and as long as the rockets are not heading Israels way Israel doesn't have to give anything away.

      So while I would not call them stupid I do think Hamas are falling into the same trap the PA has in the West Bank where 60 years of negotiations have only resulted in a more pleasant but shrinking ghetto to live in.

  • Gov. Cuomo annexes Jerusalem to Israel -- and 'NYT' echoes him
    • I am amazed he has reached the point he has especially since he clearly does not know the difference between a Democracy and a Republic.

  • (Updated) In Photos: Worldwide protest against Israeli attack on Gaza
    • "I really don’t understand why Abbas is so reluctant to join these Agencies, especially the ICC. He should have done that as soon as they got partial statehood, from what I gathered they were eligible to do from that point. Abbas is trying too hard to please the US and it’s protege."

      My guess is that joining the ICC etc. is the last bargaining tool he really has and he doesn't want to use it while it still has power as a threat.

      However like many conservative gamblers he may have hung on to it far too long and it is no longer a game changer.

  • 'Telegenically Dead': Israel’s crumbling media war
    • This seemed to fit here...

      "MSNBC Correspondent: I Was Canceled Because I Criticized Network's Pro-Israel Coverage
      Rula Jebreal says that her appearances have been canceled since she took the news network to task over its coverage of the Israel-Hamas conflict.

      "July 22, 2014 |
      A Palestinian journalist who criticized MSNBC for biased coverage of the Israel-Hamas conflict is saying that she’s “been canceled” by the news network.

      Rula Jebreal, who appeared on “Ronan Farrow Daily” yesterday and accused Western media outlets, including MSNBC of a pro-Israel bias, took to Twitter to announce that her forthcoming appearances on the cable network has been canceled and asked Daily Beast national security correspondent Eli Lake if his appearances had been canceled as well. Lake appeared in the same segment as Jebreal and countered her contention that coverage of the conflict was biased toward Israel. "

  • Netanyahu's latest 'cartoon evidence': racist image identifying Muslims with terror
  • Massacre in Gaza: At least 60 killed in Shuja'iyeh, over 60,000 in UN shelters
  • Palestinians celebrate report that Hamas captured Israeli soldier
    • Wait who's apologists are we waiting for because the only excuses I see so far would be you droning on about "Palestinian propaganda films", here is my suggestion rather than "celebrate" or "deny" it how about we wait and see what the full story is.

  • Video: Resistance activists down power line in West Bank
    • Yeah but you have to admire a man prepared to attack a power pole with an angle grinder.

    • I am always amused at the "there must be dialog" crowd, because while Palestinians try and talk Israelis into giving their rights Israel is build settlements, stealing resources and in general digging themselves deeper into Palestinian territory.

      Then on some pretext or another talks stop, Palestinians get blamed and dragged back to talk some more and the process starts all over again.

      I think it is time the talking ended.

      As Emiliano Zapata said "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees."

  • Look at Netanyahu's 'evidence' that civilians are harboring rockets in Gaza
    • I also assume that you would also want the bunker on the right hand side as well to be closer to the launcher for ease of reloading alternatively the launcher should be on the left to utilise the elevator system.

      However I think the most startling revelation there is the size of some of those rockets I had no idea Hamas had ICBMs.

      Oh and where does the tunnel go that leads out the bottom?

  • Israeli military destroyed el-Wafa hospital even though it knew there were no weapons inside
    • "It’s like a serial killer dialing up the police and saying “stop me before I kill again!”

      I would suggest it is closer to the serial killer dialing up the police to ask for an escort to his next victim because he doesnt like being caught in traffic.

  • Arrests without charge of American beating victim's relatives in Jerusalem leave State Dep't 'deeply concerned'
    • "Ask Erdogan about the ‘genocide’ he has committed against the Kurds. How many 1000s has he killed?"

      So your line of reasoning is that as long as one country does something it becomes acceptable for other countries to do it?

      You believe that Israel is justified in slaughtering 300 people because what the Ukrainians did it the day before?

      Believe it or not we can be repulsed by multiple actions Israels are just the topic of discussion on this forum.

  • Israel is in a pickle
    • "Do you think that if you repeat nonsense enough it will become true?"

      Isn't that the Israeli mantra or do I mean foreign policy?

  • Israeli police ransack Tariq Abu Khdeir family home and arrest relatives in apparent revenge raid
    • "What I have to say is very foul and will not contribute to any conversation…"

      I agree, there are things I would love to say but I suspect it would just come out as a long stream of expletives.

  • NBC reverses; Mohyeldin to return to Gaza to cover 'Palestinian side of story'
    • Replace the word jeep with ambulance and shields with patients and they may be closer to the truth, but the original way makes it sound better when they shoot it up.

  • Report: Hamas offers Israel 10 conditions for a 10 year truce
    • "That same year in 2006, Israel shelled a densely populated neighbourhood of Beit Hanoun in Gaza in the middle of the night in which 19 died and 40 were injured. Israel claimed it was a technical malfunction. "

      See that proves Israel isn't lying they do have the most malfunctioning army in the world.

      No wait they call it something else which I suspect is a malfunction as well.

    • Maybe someone should explain to the BBC that the same jounalists that saw and reported the Israeli attack would have seen and reported any rocket fire from the location as well.

  • Following missile attack last Saturday, al-Wafa Hospital receives warnings of new round of bombings
    • "Who should one blame for Israel’s war crimes? New Zealand?"

      Hey leave us out of this, it is not a war crime to hammer Australians where ever possible it is just good ethics.

  • Hamas has agreed to a ceasefire, says senior Palestinian official (Updated)
    • I am not sure what was going on but it seems like the ceasefire process was more a cruel joke of incompetence than anything else...

      “The general idea was that if the Egyptians had issued a cease-fire proposal, it would be inappropriate for Israel to reject it,” said one minister. “Netanyahu and Ya’alon told us this is an opportunity to strengthen the alliance with Egypt, and a positive response to the Egyptian proposal would earn us a lot of brownie points internationally and increased legitimacy to expand the operation against Hamas if needed. This was true and logical, and most of the ministers were convinced. But a few hours later, we discovered we’d made a cease-fire agreement with ourselves.”

      It sounds like everyone was so busy posturing and puffing up their own importance that they forgot to involve half the combatants in the process.

  • Sullivan and Leveretts throw in the towel on two-state solution
    • "jon s says:
      July 16, 2014 at 2:56 am

      One of the conclusions from the present situation is that the “one-state” idea should be officially pronounced dead. Anyone who thinks otherwise should just wake up and look around.The only possible solution is two states."

      I think you are deluded if you think anything but a single state option is remotely possible now but just for the sake of fun how about laying out your vision of a viable Palestinian state given the half a million squatters infesting the West Bank currently.

      Lets face it building a non-viable Palestinian state (aka the Bantustan proposals) will not lead to stability and a failed Palestinian state is effectively the status quo so what will the State of Palestine look like in your world, it should be interesting given that no one wants to talk borders

  • Projecting Palestinian liberation at Israeli sponsored film festival
  • Urgent call from Gaza civil society: Act now!
    • I am sorry but I think focusing on changing the political landscape in the USA is doomed to failure and in many respects playing into the hands of lobbists and their wealth.

      The only thing that can separate politicians from their lobbists wallets is a ground swell of public opinion as indicated by the defeat of AIPAC's attempts to get the USA into a war with Iran and Obamas Syrian red line.

      I am of the opinion that the only chance of success in this endevour depends solely on the direction that the Jewish American community choose to take, they are the only ones that can convince the average non-jew that standing up to Israel is not "anti-semetic" and they are the only ones that can marginalise the lobbists.

      The likes of Rand Paul will do the right thing once they realise that no amount of lobbist money will get them elected if what they are selling makes them unelectable.

  • Israel's message to the Palestinians: Submit, leave or die
    • I am not sure I agree I think Israels propaganda has reached its high water mark which you can see in the worlds collective response to the unity government being positive despite Israel throwing its toys out of the cot.

      I think the world in general is tired of Israel, they have cried wolf once too often and it is now just the pre-purchased politicians of the USA that is keeping the status quo in place but even that wont last.

  • White House says US can't stop 'tsunami' of boycott and isolation if Israel won't end 'occupations'
    • Yeah we call them politicians.

    • "The United States will always have Israel’s back. That’s why we fight for it every day at the United Nations, where we have worked diligently to ensure Israel is treated fairly and on par with all other states."

      I am interested by this statement, surely at some point the USA would have to ask why it needs to defend this state every day at the UN surely somewhere someone is asking what it is about one particular state that requires so much effort to shelter it from the rest of the world.

      I certainly understand that not every nation is liked universally, everyone makes friends and enemies as they go through life but it is usually a balance yet in Israels case it is not and that alone should encourage people to look for answers.

  • Israeli police and media collude to marginalize coverage of Muhammad Abu Khudair's murder
    • I am not sure it is working for them as their actions are being reported in the MSM more frequently and in depth here.

      Israeli Military Continue to Attack Palestinian Civilians
      Tuesday, 8 July 2014, 10:45 am
      Press Release: Palestinian Centre For Human Rights

      Reprisals Escalate in the oPt;
      Settlers and Special Israeli Military Units Continue to Attack Palestinian Civilians in the West Bank and Occupied Jerusalem, and the Israeli Warplanes Continue to Launch Airstrikes on Targets in the Gaza Strip

      I certainly think Israel has lost control of the narrative at the moment.

  • Three of six accused Israeli murderers said to confess
  • After brutal police beating, Palestinian-American Tarek Abu Khdeir, 15, sentenced to home arrest without charge
    • Well I don't think I said they would lose evidence but I did doubt they would do a real investigation however I assume you are equating "real police work" with an arrest where as I equate it to a conviction so we are a long way short of patting the Israeli police on the back for doing a job they should do as part of their job.

      Once these 6 are convicted, houses destroyed and families tossed out on the street I promise to regard them as a less biased bunch of thugs.

  • Largest British union refuses to offer support for peace talks
    • I can't see any point in doing that as I have no doubt that organisations the size of these unions have already obtained legal advice on the matter as they do with almost every policy change.

    • What race or religion are they discriminating against and how are they inciting racial and religious hatred?

      They are not advocating war they are simply taking a different path to peace.

    • I can't see why it would be a problem as there is nothing racist in what they have said or done to date, had they replaced Israel with "Jew" or "Jewish" you may have had a case but they didn't.

      After all you can not make people or companies buy from those they do not want to buy from nor can you make them work for people or companies they do not want to work for.

      It is purely a matter of conscience and I for one are pleased to see they have one hopefully one day you will too.

  • Family of Tarek Abu Khdeir calls for his immediate release after brutal beating and arbitrary arrest
    • "Tariq’s ‘trial’ should be starting about 2 1/2 hours from now. Wonder if there will ever be any trials of the border police who beat him."

      At a guess the worst thing that will happen to the thugs that beat him will be a reduction in rank for exposing Israeli actions to the world and embarrassing its leaders.

      You are dealing with people who deny every wrong doing no matter how much evidence there is against them there is little to no chance anything will come of this investigation and for once I think the State Department also know this which is why they inserted the word "credible" into their request for an investigation.

    • Fear not people the Israeli police are looking into this matter with an open mind and will get to the bottom of the case soon and the perpetrators will be dragged before the courts... Oh wait.

      "Israeli police dispute the video, which a spokesman told ABC was "edited and biased" and "does not represent the events.""

      You would think that there is a specified amount of time you would wait (say a couple of days) before issuing the standard form letter and whitewashing.

  • SodaStream launches 'mixologist' competition as brand sags
    • I also note that if you add a touch of sour grapes and some ice you get a Netan-Yahoo on the Rocks

  • Palestinian teen abducted from East Jerusalem and killed in suspected revenge attack
    • You would think they would have had the ending scripted well before now though after all it seems to be the ending to every story the Israelis are involved in.

      Question is how will they link it to the murder of Muhammad Khdeir so they can close that case at the same time.

    • "If they catch the perps and they are Israeli I would advise destroying some toilets and ripping some upholstery in their homes. I mean that’s how you fight terror, right?"

      Come on you can not encourage them to do a half hearted job on this search they will also need to empty the contents of fridges incase they are hiding in the milk cartons and destroy any spice jars to prevent them hiding in those later, terrorists hide in the strangest places don't you know.

      Then they will of course blow up the homes of any suspects and shoot anyone that may try and resist after all we would not want the Middle Easts only "democracy" to appear biased in any way.

  • Photo Essay: Israeli soliders destroy Qawasmeh and Aisha family homes in retribution attack
  • Israeli army spokesperson responds to Mondo criticism
    • “Israeli soldiers have taken to Facebook to post messages and photos demanding revenge for the killing of the three Israeli teenagers, notes human rights activists Elizabeth Tsurkov.

      In a blogpost she picks out photos posted by soldiers on a Facebook group entitled “The People of Israel Demand Revenge”.

      In the normal/ civilised world those "soldiers" would be tracked down and at the very least booted from the army for misconduct at the worst charged with racial incitement and jailed.

      How does Israel pass itself off as a modern, civilised or even democratic society when it allows this level of indiscipline within its armed forces.

  • What did Israeli officials know about the missing teens, and when did they know it?
    • Only the last one would have had problems, although I concede murder/suicide is unlikely.

      Me personally suspect this is a pricetag attack that went horribly wrong but that is just my guess.

      What is missing here is any proof as to who did it or why, we can speculate as to the most likely scenario but that is all, I think it is equally possible that the "volunteers" that found the bodies put them there there or are we going to delude ourselves that settlers are just a few points short of sainthood and incapable of such acts?

  • SodaStream stock sinks, and Bloomberg cites 'sanctions over Jewish settlements'
    • I figured this may interest someone...

      SodaStream International Ltd. (SODA - Snapshot Report) – This Israel-based developer and seller of home beverage carbonation systems commands a global leadership position in the home beverage carbonation market. The company’s latest net income projection for 2013 shows a 5.5% decline as compared to prior projection of a 23% jump.

      Estimate Revision – SodaStream has seen 3 negative revisions in the last 30 days for both the current quarter and current year estimates. Quarterly earnings consensus has slumped from 64 cents a share to just a penny now. Yearly earnings consensus has dropped from $2.57 a share to $1.94.

      Share Price – The stock has lost 24.0% over the last four weeks.

  • Vote at the Guardian: Should Oxfam sever ties with Scarlett Johansson?
    • You can see the results by mousing over each percentage.
      Currently it is:
      Yes - 87% (1816)
      No - 13% (266)

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