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  • Sam Harris defends his silence on Gaza slaughter (or tries to anyway)
    • History provides many examples of tolerant Muslims and intolerant Christians, tolerant Christians and intolerant Muslims. The only thing that history makes clear is that it doesn't make sense to speak of Islam being less or more tolerant of Jews than Christianity, neither Islam nor Christianity is homogenous.

  • Israeli embassy puts Mona Lisa in a hijab -- 'Israel now, Paris next'
    • Why do you need a word in Yiddish? Your English doesn't seem to be lacking in expressive power.

  • Pro-Israel Facebook page is titled, 'Death to Dianna Buttu'
    • You can report it to FB as hate speech, which I just did. My experience with FB makes me think they don't really read the page, but only take it seriously if there are numerous reports, so you should do the same.

  • Claim that Hamas killed 3 teens is turning out to be the WMD of Gaza onslaught
  • Photo: Message on Israeli shell headed to Gaza, 'Thats for canceling the Backstreet Boys, you scum!'
    • yep, exactly the same as the depravity that permeated Nazi society. No difference there whatsoever

  • Hamas mimics Hezbollah tactics, and no one will have stability till blockade is lifted
  • Gaza massacre is generating ideological crisis in American Zionists
    • Blum in Yiddish means flower, not blossom. But anyway, yes, of course Bloomberg is a Yiddish name (albeit in Americanized spelling). Not sure what the point of this etymology lesson is though.

  • On ‘Death to Arabs’ in Jerusalem & Tel Aviv
    • I was referring to Kay24's comment "They are racist by nature". And no, I do not think that "if you stop saying that about the Israelis they will stop bombing Gaza". I'm not of the position that racism should be avoided only if there is an immediate reward.
      Whether or not Zionism - an ideology - is inherently racist is a completely different debate. I just don't think PEOPLE are inherently anything, positive or negative.

    • yes, I really hate that stupid Golda quote, that has been making rounds on my FB feed as well...
      And again, I can understand how people who were reared on a diet of prejudice and misinformation could have a pretty racist world view, just like I can understand how people how have suffered a great grievance have no sympathy for the causers of their tragedy (and why would they, really?). But assuming any group of people is inherently racist or violent is not just wrong, it's immoral.

    • Yes, the people in the video are expressing hateful views, and that is deplorable. And unfortunately, not surprising, as they are the product of an education system that is plagued with racism and nationalism. But do you see the irony in decrying racism by claiming that a particular group is inherently racist?

  • Arab reporters come under attack from Israelis
    • What I mean is that the Israel supporters are not all white. Therefore, it's not clear to me what you mean by the skin color comment. But even if there is a high correlation between white skin color and supporting zionism, why should that be surprising? In Israel, there is high coloration between white skin color and being Jewish, and obviously that correlates with supporting zionism, no?

    • I'm not sure you understood what I meant - I'm not saying that claiming that Israel relies on American money is anti-Semitic. But I think it's fairly clear what is and what isn't, actually. I mean, you could say something like "and we all know how vital tourism dollars are to the Israeli economy", same basic idea, but not conjuring up a big-eared, big-nosed banker in one's mind. Do you not see a difference?

    • "Canceling flights is going to hurt them to the tune millions of dollars, and we know these Israelis love to get dollars"

      Kay, I think it would be more productive to have this conversation without invoking anti-semitic stereotypes

    • I'm not sure what you mean by skin color. You mean that most of the people supporting Netanyahu appear Jewish and most of the people who do not appear Arab? Why would that be surprising in Jerusalem?

  • 'Survival and well-being of the Jewish state' is a national security interest of U.S., Indyk says
    • Feathers, I'm pretty sure MW comment policy says the following: " No Nakba or Holocaust denial. We’re not going to tolerate any discussion of the Jewish role in the rise of the Nazis which is used as a pretext for blaming Jews for the Nazi rise, a form of Holocaust denial we want no part of. "

  • Please, pray for Palestine
    • Crone - in the non-religious public school system, which i attended (and AFIAK is still where the majority of people go to school), the answer is a resounding no. However, Israel has several different streams of "public education" with varying degrees of religiousness. And while hopefully it's not quite as explicit as you put it, my understanding is that yes, unfortunately, the atmosphere in the religious schools is that Palestinian rights are secondary to those of Jews, if they exist at all. These schools are well funded by the Israeli government, and we're seeing the vile product of their indoctrination now.
      On the positive side, if one wishes to be optimistic, this actually is the focus of much debate in Israel, with more and more Israelis challenging this system of state funded religious indoctrination.

  • A Selfie of the Potential Murderer as a Young Man
    • This facebook page is repulsive hate speech. I reported it on FB as such, and I hope others do so as well and they take it down

  • Chomsky supports portions of BDS agenda, but faults others, citing realism and int'l consensus
    • Danaa - those are some serious accusations you are making against TAU - do you have any proof?
      AFAIK, admission to TAU is pretty transparent - based only on high school grades and the Israeli equivalent of the SAT. While such a system can perpetuate inequality (since most Arabs, as well as other disadvantaged Israelis, obviously have less access to a good education to begin with), I doubt Tel Aviv actually has discriminatory admission practices.
      As opposed, btw, to Harvard, which, like most elite American school, admits candidates based on a completely non-transparent mix of grades, essays and extra-curricular activities (debate team, lacrosse team etc.), which is the only legal way in America to keep the numbers of White students disproportionately high...

  • Israel needs no proof to kill Palestinians for teens' death, Israeli colonel says
    • Yes, the Nazis committed many crimes, but it's the systematic killing of the non-priviliged, not their differentiation, that sets Nazi Germany apart from most other regimes that have committed war crimes. Invoking the Nazis as just "any old totalitarian regime" is therefore setting up a false comparison

    • That somebody was me, and scold you again I shall. Again, besides saying "Israelis are Nazis", what is the point of this comparison? Are you claiming that Israel is about to send Palestinians to the gas chambers? Well, it most certainly is not. And if you're just saying "Israel is doing awful crimes", then there are many ways of doing so without being inflammatory.
      There are many relevant historical comparisons to be made (Apartheid South Africa comes to mind), but fortunately, Israel is nothing like Nazi Germany. And there's a name for just yelling "Nazis" - Godwin's law.

  • Missing Israeli teens found dead near Hebron; Netanyahu: 'Hamas is responsible and Hamas will pay'
    • there are actually waaay to many of them out there right now. reading some of the israel supporters (and israelis) on twitter is very scary.

      but hey, netanyahu is calling for blood, literally.

      That is undoubtedly true, unfortunately.

    • Just about as on topic, yes...
      Yikes. Who is this hateful idiot?

    • Lysias, I do not see the point of invoking comparisons between Israel and Nazis in this context, besides derailing this conversation.

  • Reporters talk about Sykes-Picot of 1916 (and ignore the Balfour Declaration of 1917)
    • What I meant is that when discussing why ISIS cares little about the border between Syria and Iraq, it makes sense to discuss the history that led to the creation of that border - and once can cogently do so without necessarily discussing other aspects of Middle East history

    • And why should the Kurds try to make themselves a part of Iraq, a country that used mustard gas against them?

    • I'm not sure I understand the main point of this article - Reporters talk about Sykes-Picot of 1916 (and ignore the Balfour Declaration of 1917). I mean yes - these reporters are talking about Iraq and Syria, in the context of ISIS. Why are they expected to invoke the Balfour declaration, which had nothing to do with that part of the middle east? Not everything that happens in the middle east is about Israel...

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