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  • The American-Israeli narrative of 'terrorist natives'
    • Something in Zionism died today.

      this is very sweet but just plain wrong. there is way too much money lined up on their side. not sure you have any idea of the massive piles of money "they" have. and everyone with any power of any kind in the whole world knows it. and they kowtow to it too , no matter the idealogical persuasion. they have to kowtow to it.

  • 'Mishigas' and 'mensch' make primetime
    • i wish someone would give some thought to what is really going on here. what is this about? why are people doing this?

  • More on the debate over Zionism and the Jewish state
    • sean, you got it. what did i say about the segregationists in the south? same team indeed. all the rest of the words here are pointless.
      should blacks go back to africa?
      they could never learn to live among us.
      they wouldn't be happy living among us.
      they are too different with their own ways and can't be responsible citizens.
      they prefer to live among themselves.
      their children wouldn't feel comfortable in a white school.
      it's not fair, to ask their children to keep up with white children.

      these are some things that an ocean of words were wasted on. how to have segregation that didn't look so ugly to the northerners. oh, and northerners don't understand. blacks don't reallky mind the system here , only the troublemakers do.

      can we get on with the real discussion? stopping this atrocity?

    • white southerners who liked to think themselves christian and "nice" people, condoned segration and unequal rights for black citizens. they could be very kind to black individuals , even loving them, believing it is wrong to mistreat human beings even those that are lesser. they liked their society and life style, so they tortured logic in order to justify it to themselves. they needed to do this in order to think well of themselves. then there were the other types that didn't give a damn about niceness. slater is trying to think well of himself.

    • i think it's interesting that the question of the whether israel could have been established justly can even be posed in good faith. of course you cannot move people in, move natives out , and establish a new state justly. it's silly and denotes a pretty extreme kind of delusion to think you can, or could have. this guy is just another zionist who pretends to have a moral compass.
      phil is so right, these arguments are exactly like the south before civil rights. "separate but equal" .

      the only scenario i can think of is to find a country that the natives willingly moved over, and gave up their power and government in favor of the new people...pretty unlikcly.

  • Realist site says Israel lobby has cooked the Israeli goose, and American Jews will step away
    • agree, they will not step away. see no stepping away among my friends who are loudly liberal on everything else.

  • Five years after publication of 'The Israel Lobby,' I'm still grateful
    • leander, your german filter has been blinding you to what is going on here in the us, probably in europe too. i have seen your posts for years and marveled at your resistance to seeing the truth. i think it would be very interesting if you investigated that and exposed it . and i mean, talk about that filter, about your prejudices and what has prevented you from letting in everything that has been presented here at mondo. sorry to be so blunt , don't have the energy to craft it in a softer way. honestly, i am curious about it.

  • Diaspora mans up: Remnick urges Obama to overcome his 'internalized' fear of Israel lobby and ditch Dennis Ross
    • remnick is a little late to the party imo.
      i also resent how he has made the nyorker a jewish magazine.

  • The Jewish sideshow (and why I want to play in it)
    • profound lack of psychological and moral imagination to think that focusing always on protecting yourself, building walls, is going to actually work. it won't. the rebound will be worse. the more this attitude is acted out, the worse the feeling toward jews. there needs to be some spiritual and moral leadership on this question. it creates a lot of unhappiness in the community and individual, and unconsciously there is an awareness of the distortion of this which requires more and more defensiveness.

  • BBC spots sharp climb in negative view of Israel in the U.S.
    • The scam is bound to bust eventually.

      i wonder how it will be written in history books? i cannot imagine. been reading some memoirs of the debate , or lack of, about communism among intellectuals between the wars. it has taken 70 or 80 years to get perspective on that, and sort out the deluded from the smart.

  • Columbia's Zionist students, in their own words
    • why isn't collective shame working? racist comments haven't been tolerated for 30 maybe 40 years, isn't there a university bulletin that can publish these episodes for the whole community to read?

  • Why did Bob Gates, who slams the Iraq war, meet with 2 guys who planned it and who then go trash him on Libya?
    • i am amazed that there is anyone left in government who wants to do the right thing by america. i thought the lobby had all of them. and don't krystal, et. al. realize that very soon no one will listen to them ( except for fellow travellers) and dismiss them a joke? don't they care about that?

  • Misled on Israel, but not by Jimmy Carter
    • you all seem to assume there will be an impartial judge. have you taken a look at the justice system lately? even though this seems to be an amazing piece of effrontery, i bet it is already rigged . are they so dumb to make fools of themselves?

  • Beinart gave me a headache
    • i actually don't think the comment is funny. it strikes me as being an insider reference to power. like, i am so powerful and so inside that i can make jokes about it in front of all the sheep that don't have it. haha. like fraternity boys flaunting their superiority.

  • 'Newsweek''s 'new columnist' slings caliphate tripe
    • "unabashed relish in imperial might is more his style"
      two good articles, miura. and what intellectual milieu did ferguson come from? not a void certainly. there was some sort of matrix. imperialism has not been a popular concept for a hundred years. then , boom, suddenly, it is. one book, and it is suddenly legitimate again. i am curious about how it happened. the ground was prepared perhaps.

    • re ferguson, i was nonplussed when he came out with the american empire stuff years ago. it seemed so totally regressive i almost thought it was career suicide. he certainly was more adept at sniffing the wind than me.
      miura, your link on finkelstein is dead. i searched on his site and there seem to be quite a few articles, to save time, which one are you referring to?
      re hitchens motives, remember that he "found out" he is jewish.

    • shingo , check out the link. apparently she has not suffered abuse at all. pure fabrication.

    • thanks miura for the link about hirsi ali. is it too paranoid to think she was created by someone? i mean, was she smart enough to find the zionists herself? she picked them as her route to glory? or did they pick her?

    • what is "conservative" about supporting israel and hating arabs? in writers like this i suspect a hidden motive. how could these views possibly result from pursuit of truth? it could be a career move, or money, or tribe, or...

  • Protesters stand firm as political situation grows murky
    • sent to me...
      rom: John O. Sutter
      Comments from friend Essam Elmahgoop, formerly of San Francisco, now working at the American University of Cairo.
      John

      (1) Good Morning from Cairo, 4 February 2011

      I have to admit that I never thought that Egyptians were capable of doing what they have done so far, especially after being here for over a year now and interacting with all sectors of the Egyptian society, among them Egyptian youth. I have always made a point of riding public transportation by using microbuses and the underground metro, where most people seemed to be dazed or hypnotized. You can see at least one person in every subway car holding the Koran in his hands and loudly reciting verses from it, while moving his body back and forth, as if imitating Orthodox Jews at the Wailing Wall.

      Ninety percent of public transportation riders carry cell phones that play religious ringtones or Koranic verses when someone dials their number. You add to that veiled women and women wearing the niqab (black burka from top to bottom), including black gloves, and you get the whole picture. You wouldn't even dare to think about protesting or saying anything to them. My impression has always been that these people have given up totally on contemporary life and are preparing themselves for the hereafter. Everyone is only in it for himself and just thinks about how to survive one day at a time. No hope, no ambitions and no aspirations.

      When the Tunisian revolution started last December and a young man set himself on fire to protest the injustice done to him, I couldn’t help comparing that with the feeling of apathy surrounding me in Egypt. "Is there anyone here who could protest or even make a statement?" I said to myself.

      Enter January 25: All of a sudden, and without a doubt, inspired by what had happened in Tunisia, Egyptian youth used modern technology to organize a massive demonstration that has mushroomed into what will be remembered as one of the most unusual revolutions of modern times. It was a very peaceful demonstration with very simple and basic demands: free elections, no more corruption, putting an end to martial law.

      After being brutalized by the Egyptian police and security forces at the demonstration, the demonstrators vowed to come back the following Friday to express their anger at what had happened to them. They called it ' The Friday of Anger'. That morning, the Egyptian government shut down the internet and cell phone service to prevent people from communicating with each other. By shutting down Twitter and Facebook, they thought, very few people would show up for Friday's demonstration.

      Mubarak was very upset by what happened on Tuesday: how dare the Egyptian people protest in such a manner and not surrender to the police forces that have been feared by Egyptians for decades? He called his Minister of the Interior, Habib el-Adly, and chastised him for not ending the demonstration sooner. El-Adly assured Mubarak that he'd end all demonstrations within 72 hours, meaning that Friday would be the last one. Mubarak authorized him to use live ammunition, if needed, to put an end to Friday's demonstration, as if el-Adly needed this authorization, because he is known to be a ruthless and brutal man.

      When the number of demonstrators far exceeded el-Adly's expectations and his brutal police forces at el-Tahrir square were outnumbered, he ordered his deputy at the scene, Ahmed Ramsey, to shoot the peaceful demonstrators with live ammunition, but he declined.
      Mubarak was informed that the situation was not going according to his plans, so he decided to order the army to intervene and called el-Adly to inform him of his decision. El-Adly originally objected to this, both men had a heated phone conversation but he finally reluctantly agreed and said to Mubarak "okay, let the army take over." Immediately after this conversation, el-Adly ordered all of his leadership team at the ministry of the interior and all of their men to withdraw from their posts: police stations, prisons, traffic controllers and any other police post ALL OVER EGYPT. His message to his men was “let the army protect the country and leave”. All of this was reported in Egyptian newspapers, especially in the Sunday, January 30th edition of Al-Masry, whose headline read Security Forces Conspire to Contribute to Chaos.

      On Friday a curfew was ordered from 6 p.m. to 8 a.m., but people kept going to the square to demonstrate. By Friday evening there was not a single police officer to be seen all over Cairo; all police officers changed into civilian clothes before leaving their buildings because nobody dared to be seen in uniform on the street. I don't think that the police have seen the end of it yet.

      One can only imagine what happened next, 95% of all police stations in Egypt were attacked by the mob, detainees were freed, weapons were confiscated, police cars were set on fire, police officers were beaten, prisons were attacked and more than thirty thousand prisoners were released, National Party's headquarters were burned down, banks and retail shops were attacked.
      Strangely enough, some eyewitnesses have reported seeing prison officials handing civilian clothes to prisoners before allowing them to flee.

      As it turned out, hard core criminals and undercover police officers got together and built criminal units that rode police cars and ambulances and started terrorizing whole districts.

      The only positive outcome from all of this was that people discovered that they could organize and protect their homes and neighborhoods without help from police. Young men got together and started building road blocks to inspect every car driving through the streets; they checked ID's and searched car trunks.

      Last term I taught some of my students at the AUC an article about ' Community Policing' and asked them to translate it into Arabic. The whole concept was very foreign to them, which required me to give them some historical background about it and how it is implemented in the USA. Now they have a chance see it first hand.

      Interestingly enough, while the police were absent from the scene, not one single Church in the whole country was attacked, unlike what has happened before during normal times, isn't it worth it for 'them' anymore to make such attacks, now that the country is in total chaos?

      (2) Dr. Stubborn, 6 February 2011

      A lot of people must be wondering by now, how could one man such as Mubarak stand alone against most of the Egyptian population that is demanding his resignation? Why would a president want to see his country go down in flames instead of listening to the will of the people and just leave? Is the man insane or is he too out of touch with reality to understand the severity of the situation?

      The answer in my opinion lies in one word: Stubbornness. The man is known to listen mostly to his own opinion, regardless how many advisors surround him. It was once reported in a newspaper article that one day, as he was listening to an advisor telling him about the virtues of hiring a certain person as a minister, the advisor started telling Mubarak about all of the accomplishments and expertise of this person, but Mubarak was not impressed. Then the advisor said 'but this man has a doctorate degree in the same field', to which Mubarak replied "and I have a doctorate degree in stubbornness".

      It has been known here for years that Mubarak does not really rule Egypt; the real president, or for a better word 'emperor', is his son Gamal. The father is just playing his natural role, a father figure. He attends official meetings with heads of states and high-ranking officials in Sharm el-Sheikh, a resort area by the red sea, where he spends most of his time all year round. The son, on the other hand, is surrounding himself with a group of wealthy entrepreneurs headed by a ruthless and very intelligent billionaire, Ahmed Ezz, who advises Gamal on everything he does, and who orchestrated the latest rigged elections for the Egyptian parliament.

      This business mafia has been milking Egypt for years, while sending their profits out of the country to foreign banks.

      All of this happens while Mubarak is enjoying his early retirement from the presidency, or as he likes to call it in Arabic 'Willaya', guardianship, as he did in the last speech he gave two days ago. He doesn't forget of course during his self-imposed retirement to collect a million here and a million there as pocket money, and a few million more for hard days, as the ones he is going through now. Mubarak is known as a man who has no vision and who can only think in one way.

      The father has been grooming Gamal to become the next official president and introduced him to some kind of training on the job by relinquishing all of his powers to the son. Gamal was the one who appointed ministers and high-ranking officials and made sure that most of the ministers were business men who were loyal to him and to his greed. It is a known fact that no successful major business can survive in Egypt without giving Gamal and his gang a 'cut' that sometimes reached 50% of the profit. No car dealership, no franchise, no major supermarket…etc could even think about opening here in Egypt without going through the 'Proper Channels'.

      The famous Egyptian journalist Hassanin Heikal once wrote that the father and son were running the country as if it were a grocery store, they borrowed money from banks and the store kept growing, while they were wasting the store's income. When the store became a supermarket, the creditors showed up asking for their money, but the owners were bankrupt.

      When the current revolution started, Mubarak was exposed and didn't know what to do and how to react. After the first demonstration on January 25, people here expected him to say something, but he didn't. Instead, some of his cronies came out with some stupid comments about foreign paid agents who try to destabilize the country and instigate unrest. Of course we all aspire to achieve democracy and liberty and justice…blablabla. Meanwhile, the official government media was reporting about what transpired as if it had happened in a different country, not what we all have heard and seen for ourselves.

      It is almost impossible for a dictator to relinquish power with his own free will, and it is certainly impossible if he didn't have this power to start with. This is Mubarak's dilemma: He has invested so much in preparing his son Gamal to take over next November that he doesn't want to see this all go to waste. On the other hand he is controlled by his son, who is controlled by the gang, the so-called ' new guards'. The son feels that he is entitled to the throne and the father agrees, and if
      this doesn't work out, then to hell with everyone and everything. The Egyptian Pharaoh will burn the temple down, with all of the ungrateful followers inside, even if he and his son will go up in flames.

      (3) The Neutral Army, 6 February 2011

      It is obvious by now what Mubarak and his gang are trying to achieve: Divide and Conquer. Their plan is as follows: Play the delay tactic, make empty promises, find some scapegoats, hire media experts who bombard the public with scare tactics and inject fear in people by warning them of the 'infiltrators' and 'saboteurs' who want to create a civil war, talk about foreign agents among us, foreign countries who interfere in our affairs and try to dictate their policies on us, and make sweetheart deals with the so-called opposition parties, who claim to speak on behalf of the Revolution. Does this sound familiar?

      When Mubarak a few days ago gave what is considered by the government media to be a
      'concession speech', he played masterfully on people's emotions, knowing well the make up of his audience: more than one third of the Egyptian people can not read nor write, the majority of Egyptians do not read books, not even in Arabic, or foreign publications. Egyptians in general are very emotional people who respect the elderly and listen to them. The last portion of his speech was tailored to capitalize on this: My name is Hussni Mubarak, I was born here and have served my country with dedication during both peace and war times, I am not seeking any wealth or fame and all I want is to die peacefully in my country. To add a dramatic effect to the message, he lowered his voice, pretending to choke on his words. The only thing left missing was for him to hold a handkerchief in his hands to wipe the crocodile tears.

      Many Egyptians fell for it, even among the demonstrators at el-Tahrir square. Some were interviewed immediately after the speech and said that the man should be left alone and allowed to serve until the end of his term and leave in peace. We can't deny him the right to die in his land. He is like our father or grandfather, Mubarak is 83 years old, and you don't treat your father like that, this is not our CULTURE. Did not he make concessions? He promised not to seek re-elections, to order investigations of corrupt officials, to order his parliament to amend articles 66 and 67 of the constitution, that were tailored specifically for him and his son Gamal, to respect and implement court rulings regarding the last rigged elections and to order his new cabinet to follow a new policy that aims to achieve prosperity and equal justice for all.

      There was no mention of the major demands of the demonstrators: No transfer of power to his son Gamal next September, abolishment of the emergency law, dissolution of both the corrupt and illegitimate parliament and Shura council, appointment of a new cabinet that does not belong to the National Party of which Mubarak is president, and foremost and above all: For Mubarak to Leave.

      Hardly half an hour after the speech was over on Wednesday night, the government thugs, so-called Mubarak supporters, started attacking the demonstrators at the square by riding camels and horses, while carrying whips, swords and sticks in their hands. The revolution that started by using Twitter and Facebook will be crushed by camels and horses -- that is how the incompetent Mubarak regime was thinking. If rubber bullets and live ammunitions used by the police didn't succeed, then camel and horses will. In self defense, some demonstrators attacked the camel riders and managed to bring them down and capture them. As it turned out, they had ID's proving that they belonged to secret police and undercover police units.

      Everything that happened that night proves that the whole episode was pre-planned:

      The army, who was supposed to protect the demonstrators after the shameful and sudden disappearance of the police, stood idle watching without intervening, under the claim that they wanted to be neutral. When soldiers and officers have tanks, hand guns and machine guns and watch a massacre unfolding before their very eyes, and turn their faces away, it can only smell very rotten. On the other hand, one should not be surprised at this so-called army neutrality when one realizes that the army is trying to protect one of its own, especially the commander-in-chief.

      For decades Mubarak has been spoiling the army officers with perks, overseas trips, lavish gifts and privileges inside the country. He bought their loyalty a long time ago knowing that it's a long term investment, and the returns will be tremendous. Now all you can hear is ‘we want him to have an honorable exit while we remain neutral. We are here to protect buildings and major facilities, but what about the people? Sorry, we can't get sucked into a civil war.’

      It's known that Egypt receives two billion dollars yearly in so-called U.S. aid and one and a half billion goes to the army. F16 fighters, tanks, bombs, etc., even tear gas bombs to be used against civilians are made in the USA and used by the army and police. The whole Egyptian army is being trained by American experts, and during the last demonstrations the police used tear gas bombs that had been expired for three years, which had a terrible effect on people's eyes and nervous systems. ‘This was the police, and we are the neutral army, that is why we don't use anything at all, just a show of force by placing tanks and soldiers with machine guns in the streets, blocking many entrances to the square, and gradually occupying precious space inside the square to reduce the number of people who could fit in.’ Neutrality at its best!

      The main reason the Tunisian revolution succeeded was because their dictator, Ben Ali, was not a member of the army, he came from the secret police unit. That is why when things escalated there and the army's joint-chief- of staff refused to follow Ben Ali's order to shoot people with live ammunitions, the army went to Ben Ali and gave him only two choices: either you leave now and run for your life, or we'll storm your palace and you'll be killed. The cowardly dictator took the easy way out.

      Ben Ali was a coward, but Mubarak is not; he is Dr. Stubborn.

  • This revolution 'undoubtedly means the end of Israel as a Jewish state'
    • i don't buy it at all, it smells to me like an escape hatch. providing some cover for the rats fleeing the sinking ship (israel). my view from the ground is that jewish left libs, let alone, neocons, care passionately about israel to the point of blindness. how else can you explain the obvious hypocrasy , prevarication, etc? i also believe that the israel obsession can spring up in mid-life, after sowing the wild oats of mingling with gentiles.

  • American intifadah: We shake off the neocons
    • i want to know why this won't be buried like every other atrocity. so far, i can't see why this is going to change anything. i think you guys are dreaming. we have had a total coup that has gradually ocurred over how many years and the bosses are in place, period. i hope i am wrong.

  • Hunting the neocons
    • honestly i think the newyorker editor is paid by the lobby. sounds preposterous but really, how is it done? why else was he hired? he had not done that much in his career. how did the media get totally locked up? i read it the newyorker for years and then it changed.

  • Am I allowed to be a Palestinian Jew?
    • israeli-ness is a made-up identity. kind of like george bush pretending to be texan. what you get is a sort of fakeness and defensiveness.

  • My wife's Christmas message
  • Assange is holding dirt on Israel because western newspapers didn't want to publish it
    • michael, you made a good point there. i do feel people want a hero so much, and understandably. i do. assange seemed to fit the bill.
      even though michael's sources may be lousy, you have to concede a decent point. and annie, though i normally agree with you, debate is often how you acquire information. it seems obvious much this website is debate , and why not? the only debate i hate , is the faux debate with witty.

    • i read a comment on zerohedge saying that he suspected assange from the start BECAUSE he categorically denied there was any need for a 9/11 review. i thought it was a good point.

  • 'The Palestine Cables': WikiLeaks dox expose Netanyahu's vision of Palestinian bantustan
  • Wexler told Israelis, American people will support attack on Iran if talks are tried and fail
  • Unfair to Chomsky
  • As a therapist would say, you're projecting
  • Notes on my racism, part 3: 'My people'
    • david, i will check out your blog post. i just want to say i suffer from the same. i tune out holocaust movies now ( and i want to say i have read 50 books at least on it, because of the HUMAN problem, not jew-fascination), and i tune out the jokes which used to seem cute.

    • amazing failure of imagination. it does not seem so hard to get. feeling and acting embattled is alienating to others and causes the very things jews use as excuses.
      this is the very truth that is won't be dealt with. there is an immediate outcry of victimization when that idea is suggested. the fact is you don't want to give up victimization because your identity is based on it. when you rule the world and have all the power you will still feel like a victim.
      there is no end to it.

  • A Jordanian complains about his king and the Zionists
    • (Of course, it is a legitimate question–why is it that so many billionaires see eye-to-eye with neocons?

      because that's where the money is?
      i would very much like to know more about this too. but i think it possible the neocons have control of wall street. i think it is worth researching the hamilton project/goldman/obama.

  • Netanyahu said Iran was 3-5 years away from nuclear capability-- back in '95!
    • how did they capture tony blair? he was not always a neocon. was it blackmail? filthy lucre? or was britain in the same neocon vise politically as the us? how do they get people to sell out their honor and country?

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