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The War of Ideas in the Middle East
um fred the gestapo were the police.
um its was the settlers in both cases starting violence. deatbh to arabs will never stop because Israel is rascist to the core.
since when is a demonstration for equal rights when no one does anything but peacefully protest count as a violent demonstration
how is a jewish family moving into homes jews never owned them retaking their own property?
funny I don't think he'd mind if it was only the jewish narrative being taught
For once but they routinely allow their own laws to be violated
it was arbitrary to split to pieces of land that for the entirity of human history had never been considered the same piece of land into their respective parts?
ans that you and the rest of the zionists feel your entitled to land that was not nor ever controlled by jews says that it wasn't so much about a return to palastine (I refuse to use the ahistorical and quite frankly insulting term Eretz Israel) as grabbing as much land as possible.
yes because that erases all the crimes that were committed to create it.
Religions shouldn't have states. Neither the Jewish nor catholic faith should have their states and both should be returned to the rightful owners
Let's assume for a moment that religions have the right of self determination ( they don't and Jews are a religion not a nation no matter how people like you try to rewrite it) self determination is described as being linked to a piece if land. So how is Jews invading and taking over land the people of that land deciding it's political status. Oh wIt it's not your just trying to steal the palestians rights for thieves.
anyone else see the irony of a jew living on stolen land crying thsat someone is trying to steal it from them?
What people your magical made up jewish one? jews are a religion which does not have self determination. Israel has nothing to do with self determination. forgien born people invading and taking over a country so other of their clique can come live in other people's houses isn't self determination it is theft, conquest, and illegal.
If ROR isn't an option Israel better damn well figure out a way to make. it is a legal right if Israel doesn't like it tough they should have thought of that before committing their war crimes
retconing is for video games not reality
just not in palastine right?
india is ectremely disfunction hell the entire southern portion of the country basicly refuses to speak the national language of hindi speaking tamil instead brcause they feel its older.
no your at your house home and house aren't the same. if you steal it it cannot be your home period
you get to demand we stop using "economic warfare" against " your state" when your state stops using actual warfare against the native, legitiamate, and legal population of palestine. that's the problem it isn't your state its the palestinians which you stole.
shak Israel isn't the expression of jewish self determination. that phrase is an oxymoron. self determination involves being in the territory. a state created for and by people moutside of the territory by DEFINITION cannot be self determination so please quit repeating that tired and racist lie. if you can't use con cepts according to their definitions please don't talk about them. the only ISrael is and can be is a denial of the right of self determinition.
and i suppose there are no getaway drivers in prison oh wait there are. if you do things that help something happen guess what you participated.
there is no right to jewish self determination not in palastine nor anywhere. religions don't have that right period.
cept israel has zero intention of sharing
Israel doesn't need a reason or excuse to do crazy things. it does crazy things for SH**s and giggles
no i'm not claiming the poles invented fried dough. calm down and put your jewish accomplishment boner away. but the dough in paczkis is different from most dough used in pastries so yeah I'm going to go out on a limb here suggest the polish invented their national pastry,
Oh yeah? And I say it’s a pontchke (Yiddish). So there. yes that's the tiddesh word for it. but jews started eating them while in poland. hell the paczki dates back 500 600 years at least
its real easy to say share when your in group doing the stealing.
Israel harming the us yet again. this fiction that they are allies to the us needs to end.
All I'm going to say is if basic human rights being given to all people is enough to destroy your state perhaps rather than saying f human rights you need to seriously question the legiatimacy and the morality of your states existence.
true but the only incorrect part would be calling the land of Israel funny how an area 4 times the size of historical Israel gets to be called the of Israel.
so you admit you mourn and feel close to that you have no material relationship with.
more of a religiocracy than ethnocracy
why wouldn't Israel steal their food they steal everything else. most of Israel's accomplishments happened because they are stolen from others or backed finicially by others. Israel without thedft and backers probobly would have a twentieth of the "accomplishments" they do
viligance? there is no viligance in ISrael just what in most people barely contained bloodlust being allowed to run rampent. and the whole captain Israel thin g is a joke from reading that is poorly written trash. not to mention the same tired Israeli propaganda with the same tired lies.. and what people is that. jews are religion wishing to be a people deosn't make you one being one does.
UM How is zionism not racism? how is an idea that essentially says that native people have no rights if jews want their political rights and land not racist.
no it isn't almost none of the arable land was owned by jews.
your missing my point, probably intentionally, because I know unlike zionists you have reading comprehension. you claimed it only mattered in 67 but that would imply it wasn't in fore in 48 having been signed and ratified in numerous counries a decade and half prior says other wise.
also chacterizing the zionist conquest of palestine as a civil war if a gross distortion of the factual evidence. I'm sorry but calling a conflict when the majority of people fighting for one side weren't even legal residents or even citizens as a civil war seems to me negates all meaning of the term.
in other words you don't want them to return. by exagerated extension of right of return you mean actually returning to their property because you feel jew's have the right to theft.
yes. name the treaty where the palestinians signed away sovreignty? oh wait they never did. just because your incapable of admitting that the crimes Israel committed doesn't give them legal rights.
no it doesn't. hell the treaty that the Us signed that makes that federal law was signed was signed in 33 and is considered part of customary international law. It states any land gained through warfare, threat of warfare, or any other coercive means is invalid. so yeah it does in fact apply to the great war of zionist aggression in the 40's
well technically they aren't civlian cities as they are in occupied territory meaning its illegal for Israel to have moved civilians there.
didn't steal acres at least in and of its self it did steal the right of self determination of every arab living in those lands
I can think of many words to describe the UN partitian equitable is not one of them. using the word equitable to describe a partitian that treated each jew as being worth 2 and half times as much as an arab in regards to land given( and that's not even accounting the fact the best land was given to the jews though owned by arabs who wanted to be a part of the palestinian state) is a travesty. was it more equitable yeah but to be more honest it would be better to say far less unfair. to use the term equitable in this way implies a sense of fairness that just wasn't there
and as an act of coercion any territorial gains made due to it cannot be considered valid.
wow imagine that a guy living on stolen land as a part of that invented people thinks its bs. to bad there isn't a conflict of interest or anything. anything even remotely critical of ISrael always gets panned. usuallyh by people like you.
to bad enough Israel is all of palestine for them. no Israel would be better that everyone could have all their real rights and not fake ones you like to promote.
just because there the minority doesn't mean they are wrong
because your blatently ignoring information that is evidence of arab and proto arab people in the region predating any record of jewish states.
because they are proper geographical terms. they are used to make it seem the jewish presence is either more or more important than it actually is. it is impossible to erase a connection to something that doesn't exist. your trying to erase all the other people who in some cases are far more historically relevant from the region by using its jewish ahistorical name.
right which is why a stele commerating victory in a battle mentions arabs a full 350 years before than.
and its not the anachronistic eretz yisrael it either palastine or caanan.
if your going to use the arabic names could you at least spell them correctly. hell I know preciously jack shit of the arabic language and I know the transliteration is al-quds not el-quds. but than again given the general lack of caring about facts why would something as minor as spelling matter to you.
yeah the legality of even those borders still is questionable though.
how is it disenfranchisement to take away things that were never theirs. the simple fact is the vast majority of Israelis are there illegally and despite your ranting have no right to be there. sorry that jews stole land and they would be hurt by suffering the legal ramifications of their actions but that is what should happening. that you feel that palestinians shouldn't get their property back because it would make jews have problems is morally reprehensible.
in other words you believe in the right of theft which we already knew. and I believe I have asked you to quit using the phrase self determination and its like as you refuse to use them in a way in line with the definitions of the phrases. the jews in Israel don't have any right to decide the political status of palestine occupied or "Israel" a right can never be conferred by a crime.
exactly those of us who care about justice and the rule of law( yes witty I know you refuse to comment on my posts but will whine about unfair it is to have justice and the rule of law because it harms the settlers ability of stealing land) and palestinians' rights should be "mean" and go for the throat until we have a boot to the throat of the monster that is Israel. only until they are threatened like they threaten the palestinians on a daily basis. only when they are forced to be a decent people who solve problems without violence will the Israelis do so
it was wrong for them to steal palastine and they need to come to terms with that and admit that
the problem is jews don't have the right of self determination at least not in the way you, witty, and the rest of the promoting of war crimes Israel supporters you believe. the right of self determination doesn't mean you get a state where ever you damn well please. its the people( well the legal resident population) deciding their own political status. which your against the people of palestine deciding all of palestine political status.
if the law was actualy applied Israel wouldn't even exist. its very existence is a violation of international law.
note to Israel internal affairs happen within your legal borders not outside of them
because Israel won't let them come to our markets
by oversimple are we to assume speak the truths I don't want talked about. their isn't anything complex about the siuation. Israel has from even before it was formed a down right criminal enterprise designed with the porpuse of supplanting a peaceful native agriculural based people, you want their to be complexities that doesn't exist to excuse the evil committed but their is no excuse.
and completely bs as no other country was created with the foriegn funding that Israel got.
there is no jewish right to self determinations as only nations have that right not religions. the 2 states that are openly for religions need to be done away with as the anchronisms they are.
So jews get to steal another people's homeland because of a book of myths from thousands of years ago. but the palestinians have to give up their legally mandated rights because the bigots of Israel refuse to respect those right?
f that
right which is why it took the british, US, and french pressuring Israel to give up the sinai? Israel is not the good guy.
its frustrating for you to hear basic property law be enforced? maybe instead of defending the jewish right of theft you should support the rule of law
witty why is removing people from property they don't own so the owners can live there a bad action? there is no right to be in someone elses home.
that's signing the treaty not compling with them. which ISrael hasn't.
tear gas is only non lethal when you know your not shooting the cannisters at people
rome never fought Israel. but than again why let facts get in the way of your want of things you have no right to.
also the eytmology of the word palestine predates any historical evidence for a jewish state so well you SOL
so he supports a real fiction people fake right to state but not real people's real right?
this is whats wrong with american middle east policy
just another case of Israel harming the US
as often as Israel harms the US and kills or maims are citizens we damn well should be at war with them.
the jewish people has no future as there is no such thing. religions aren't a people and like it or not that is all jews are despite their arrogance saying other wise. the only jewish "people's" died out thousands of years ago.