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  • Quakers divest from HP and Veolia Environment
    • Proton Soup September 25, 2012 at 9:22 pm

      whether hewlett and packard are connected now is irrelevant. the modern company HP really has nothing in common with them. H&P started off as a test instrument company. in 1999, the test instrument side of the company, the very thing that built HP and its reputation, was spun off as Agilent. this empty shell called HP that you see today is little more than a brand. it is certainly nothing that engenders respect in engineers. yes, we have our HP calculators, and lab equipment. even the laser printer was a beauty in its day. but would you buy a computer with that brand today? HP now represents only commodity products in my mind. and they certainly do not represent Hewlett and Packard.

      now, why boycott either hp or intel? why should it have anything to do with the founders? or universality? it's about morality.

  • Biden gives Israel the green light on Iran in speech to rabbinical convention
    • Proton Soup May 8, 2012 at 11:58 pm

      i've been somewhat fascinated with Biden since the egyptian protests, when he made the statement that he didn't think Mubarak was a dictator. i realized at that point Biden was a way for the administration to play both sides. Biden could soothe the nerves of a long-time US asset, saying things in public the president himself can't say. like with the recent gay marriage statements. it can be written off as just Biden shooting his mouth off again. in the meantime, you get an opportunity to press public opinion on the television, make polls, recalibrate, and always have the option to reel it back in to the president's official position while simultaneously giving a wink and nod to that constituency.

      so what is Biden really saying here? who knows!? is it a wink and nod? that's one possibility. they certainly want the zionist campaign support. OTOH, there was one thing i didn't get from this article - a promise to join Israel in the attack. because of that lack of commitment, i'm kind of meh about it. the Israelis are too chicken**** to do it on their own. and i suspect a man who's forgotten so much about FP recognizes at least that much, if only instinctively.

  • Another Christian apostasy on NPR (when will non-Zionist Jews get some air?)
    • Proton Soup May 1, 2012 at 2:35 pm

      Christianity does get a thorough dissecting in the MSM, doesn't it? And it's not just Zionism that gets ignored. If NPR wants an interesting story on dissenters of faith, I'd recommend they check out Aron Rottenberg.

      Actually, there are a couple of MSM outlets that might be willing to deal with such things. CBS and Nat Geo are the only ones that come to mind. I believe it was this program from Nat Geo that interviewed an atheist leaving his hasidic community: link to natgeotv.com

  • Ozick, anti-Palestinian polemicist, is shortlisted for a big prize
    • Proton Soup April 27, 2012 at 1:27 pm

      What is astonishing is that (to the best of this writer’s knowledge) not one single media outlet has raised the issue of Ozick’s anti-Palestinian racism.

      it's not so astonishing when you realize that the media agrees with her.

  • Nationalist public radio
    • Proton Soup April 22, 2012 at 1:47 pm

      >> Ah, so that’s where the Jewish state gets it from.

      where do you think the soviets got it from? check out Yuri Slezkine's book The Jewish Century.

  • Israel imprisons youth for refusing army service
    • Proton Soup April 19, 2012 at 11:01 pm

      i wonder, since it's too expensive to enlist willing haredi soldiers today, just how long will these dissidents have to hold out until the costs outweigh the benefits of harassing them? perhaps until august, when as many as 60,000 new draftees may be available. interesting timing, considering the US presidential election coming up in november.

      link to jewishpress.com

  • Orlando Fox affiliate calls neo-Nazis a 'civil rights group'
  • Finkelstein 'not going to be an Israel-basher anymore' but remains 'appalled and disgusted'
    • Proton Soup April 7, 2012 at 7:24 pm

      i can't help but wonder if hophmi is trying to be a bit clever here. AIPAC is not so much jewish as it is zionist.

  • Jewish food fight (at Park Slope Co-op)
    • Proton Soup April 1, 2012 at 1:48 pm

      while it's true that america treated the native americans badly, last time i looked they could move about and live freely wherever they wanted.

      still, my white guilt has indeed been twanged. maybe he's right. perhaps we are being hypocritical. it's an old argument to be sure, but true morals don't change. it could be just as right today as it was many decades ago.
      link to calvin.edu

  • Zionism totalled
    • Proton Soup March 27, 2012 at 7:57 pm with 2 replies

      you can call it ethnocentrism if you like, it's all the same to me. i've been watching this for a while, and what i see is israel doing things like completely obliterating the culture and customs of ethiopian jews that it allows into israel. that is, they're building a "judasim" based not only on theology, but also mundane things like the smashing of glasses at weddings. it's a very eurocentric "judasim", no african customs allowed. we did the same crap to the native americans and inuits in america. it's all about destroying cultures, and therefore peoples. racism, ethnocentrism, whatever... i really don't care. it's about destroying peoples, and it's a kind of genocide as defined by Raphael Lemkin himself. a man whose memory is nearly forgotten, nearly destroyed already, because of the condemnation it heaps down on the heads of those committing these atrocities.

      social construct?! sure, social constructs are being destroyed here, and it is a sin.

    • Proton Soup March 26, 2012 at 2:01 pm with 5 replies

      it's about time. zionism is racism. and liberal zionism is simply the kinder, gentler, segregationist version of same. and, i do understand liberal zionism to a certain point as a transition point (i had a relative who based a political career on segregation, only for it to come out years later he had a black mistress). but still, it is what it is. and at some point you have to come out of the closet and recognize it for what it is.

  • Uygur leads assault on Iran war-- U.S. policy is being 'dictated' by Netanyahu
    • Proton Soup March 16, 2012 at 9:53 pm

      it's not just MSNBC. but here's an example of how they treated Ashleigh Banfield. i am sure that sent an unambiguous message to the rest of the crew.

      link to en.wikipedia.org

      In April 2003, in a speech at Kansas State University, Banfield raised concerns regarding media coverage of the conflict in Iraq. She also spoke against "cable news operators who wrap themselves in the American flag and go after a certain target demographic", and specifically named Fox News Channel as an example.[3] The New York Times reported that her speech angered NBC management, who rebuked her and lowered her profile.[2]

      I was office-less for ten months ... No phone, no computer. For ten months I had to report to work every day and ask where I could sit. If somebody was away I could use their desk. Eventually, after ten months of this, I was given an office that was a tape closet. They cleared the tapes out and put a desk and a TV in there, and a computer and phone. It was pretty blatant. The message was crystal clear. Yet they wouldn't let me leave. I begged for seventeen months to be let out of my contract. If they had no use for me, let's just part ways amicably—no need for payouts, just a clean break. And [NBC News President Neal Shapiro] wouldn't allow it. I don't know what his rationale was—perhaps he thought I would take what I felt was a very strong brand, and others felt was a very strong brand, to another network and make a success of it. Maybe that's why he chose to keep me in a warehouse. I will never forgive him for his cruelty and the manner in which he decided to dispose of me.
      —in New Canaan-Darien Magazine, January 2009[4]

      here's how they put pressure on Jessica Yellin (and Phil Donahue and Jesse Ventura):
      link to huffingtonpost.com
      CNN transcript for Yellin:
      link to transcripts.cnn.com

      COOPER: Jessica, McClellan took press to task for not upholding their reputation. He writes: "The National Press Corps was probably too deferential to the White House and to the administration in regard to the most important decision facing the nation during my years in Washington, the choice over whether to go to war in Iraq. The 'liberal media' -- in quotes -- didn't live up to its reputation. If it had, the country would have been better served."

      Dan Bartlett, former Bush adviser, called the allegation "total crap."

      What is your take? Did the press corps drop the ball?

      JESSICA YELLIN, CNN CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT: I wouldn't go that far.

      I think the press corps dropped the ball at the beginning. When the lead-up to the war began, the press corps was under enormous pressure from corporate executives, frankly, to make sure that this was a war that was presented in a way that was consistent with the patriotic fever in the nation and the president's high approval ratings.

      And my own experience at the White House was that, the higher the president's approval ratings, the more pressure I had from news executives -- and I was not at this network at the time -- but the more pressure I had from news executives to put on positive stories about the president.

      I think, over time...

      COOPER: You had pressure from news executives to put on positive stories about the president?

      YELLIN: Not in that exact -- they wouldn't say it in that way, but they would edit my pieces. They would push me in different directions. They would turn down stories that were more critical and try to put on pieces that were more positive, yes. That was my experience.

      and now, who is sucking up to whom? Comcast/MSNBC is so powerful that presidents come to them.
      link to politico.com

      MSNBC is a war network, and its influence spans presidencies and parties.

  • Are solar panels an existential threat to Israel too?
    • Proton Soup March 15, 2012 at 4:34 pm

      Israel wants everyone around them to look as poor and uncivilized as possible. To do otherwise would crush the illusion. This is one of, if not the main reason, they want to crush Iran. Iran is building a shining city on a hill. Iran not only has energy independence, but, like the Koreans, is marching towards being master of its own technological future. The racist, supremecist, zionist state cannot allow this to be.

      What sort of people must bring others down to raise itself up?

  • Netanyahu says, You also refused to bomb Auschwitz
    • Proton Soup March 7, 2012 at 4:14 am

      Maybe you've also heard of Rabbi Weissmandel? According to him, the Zionists just sold them out. More or less, they were to be human sacrifices to secure the Zionist state.

      link to fantompowa.net

      During the Kasztner case, Menachem Bader of the Jewish Agency was asked 'Did you receive this letter from Rabbi Weissmandel?" He answered: "Letters like this came to us every day". Weissmandel later published the following letter, which is a literal translation of the letter the Jewish Rescue Committee in Czechoslovakia received from the Zionist "Jewish" Agency Executive Offices in Switzerland. This was in reply to the call of the Jewish Rescue Committee for help, with documentary evidence furnished, concerning the fate of millions of Jewish people in Nazi occupied Europe.

      "We are writing to remind you of the one factor of which you must never lose sight: that ultimately, the Allies will win the war. After their victory, territorial boundaries will be reshaped as they were after the First World War. Then, the way will be clear for our purpose at this time, with the war drawing to a close, we must do everything in our power to change Eretz Yisrael to Medinat Yisrael and many steps have already been taken in this regard. Therefore, we must turn a deaf ear to the pleas and cries emanating from Eastern Europe. Remember this: all the allies have suffered many losses, and if we also do not offer human sacrifices, how can we gain the right to sit at the conference table when the territorial boundaries are reshaped? Accordingly, it is foolhardy and brazen for us to negotiate in terms of money or supplies in exchange for Jewish lives. How dare we ask of the allied powers to barter money for lives while they are sustaining heavy casualties daily? So, insofar as the masses are concerned: RAK B'DAM TIHJE LANU HAAREZ, (Eretz Yisroel will be ours only by paying with blood), but as far as our immediate circle is concerned, ATEM TAJLU. The messenger bearing this letter will supply you with funds for this purpose".

      Even at $2/head, you couldn't get the Zionists to open their wallets and buy the freedom of Jews.

      link to weissmandl.org

      So, yes, many of these deaths were a conscious decision. Lives could have been saved, but the founders of Israel were determined that would not happen. Seems to have paid off, and then some.

  • War on Drugs, War on Terror, War on the Poor
    • Proton Soup March 5, 2012 at 3:09 am

      yup. i realized a long time ago that the War on Drugs was never intended to be won. the War on Drugs is a recipe for overtime pay and swag. so it benefits the local officers as well as industry. it's a sort of militarized police industrial complex. plus, the racist component of preferentially-harsh penalties for some, who get sent to work in private prison industries, which is all legal because slavery was never abolished - the 13th amendment explicitly allows it as punishment. and this is only one of the ways drugs weakens a people you want to dominate.

      and so i agree with the author here that War on Terror is the same thing, really. but with the exception that it is all preceded by the War is a Racket model exposed by Smedley Butler, and reiterated by Eisenhower as the Military Industrial (Academic) Complex. Smedley's short book is also a gem for it's rape of the poor expose, where the poor here are the soldiers themselves.

      link to lexrex.com

  • Leading Zionist historian was first to say 'Israel Firster'-- in 1960
    • Proton Soup February 9, 2012 at 10:46 pm

      to be honest, i'm sick and disgusted with the whole "you hate jews if you don't go along with our agendas" dialogue. and so, i am perfectly happy to remove it from the discussion. instead of "israel firster", i will refer to other-loyalists as "america seconders". and as for the whole zionism thing, my new favorite phrase is "zionists are not jews". i'm no longer giving in to the emotional terrorism, it has to stop.

  • Israeli officials say Iran's 'existential threat' is-- braindrain of 200,000 'best and brightest'
    • Proton Soup February 4, 2012 at 3:35 pm

      Or substitute any other country for Russia in the above and there would be an uproar in the nation.

      What are these “formal agreements” subjecting American citizens to? And why the hell don’t we know about this?

      states actually expend a lot of effort wooing foreign investment in industries in their states. the usual incentives are things like tax breaks. as for "technology exchange", the only place i can think of where that can occur is at universities, which often have their own patent portfolios, most of it supported by the taxpayer.

      and, coincidentally, i did have a russo-israeli lab instructor not so long ago, and you have to wonder how much of the grad student gravy train may be due to these sorts of agreements. it's not just israel, btw. you hear quite a bit of frustration these days from grad students being shut out by even less qualified people from india, china, etc. i do wonder if the H1-B situation is related to why teta mother me posted that.

    • Proton Soup February 3, 2012 at 6:58 pm with 3 replies

      Seems that the writing is on the wall wrt the demographics in Israel. So much so that the IMF and Bank of Israel are speaking about it publicly. link to globes.co.il

      And this isn't just a sudden realization. Remember the government has been targeting those young, educated, successful expatriates for a while now.
      link to mondoweiss.net
      link to mondoweiss.net

      Now, the rhetoric really heats up, and those expatriates are reminded that they are not even safe in America.
      link to abcnews.go.com

      "We predict that the threat on our sites around the world will increase … on both our guarded sites and 'soft' sites," stated a letter circulated by the head of security for the Consul General for the Mid-Atlantic States. Guarded sites refers to government facilities like embassies and consulates, while 'soft sites' means Jewish synagogues, and schools, as well as community centers like the one hit by a terrorist bombing in Buenos Aires in 1994 that killed 85 people.

      Interesting how economics and the concerns of bankers are driving much of this, no? Whose existence is really threatened here?

  • 'Tablet' says writers who talk about Israel Firsters are channeling Hitler
    • Proton Soup January 28, 2012 at 3:06 am

      you're not kidding it's an amazing quote. it's so amazing that i just learned the msn link is blacklisted at JJ.

      i guess this is just more of the politically promiscuous, "open relationship" Newt. only question is, who will he do first, America or Israel ?

  • Israeli judges are the confessors in savage new doc'y on legitimizing the occupation
  • In the last 24 hours an orgy of land theft and political arrests of children
    • Proton Soup January 24, 2012 at 11:59 pm with 1 replies

      this feels like rage over being told no on iran, and being set up to take the blame for anything that would happen (false flag). but could it be an attempt to provoke a reaction from the new egyptian government?

  • Adelson's millions come tipped with missiles aimed at Iran
    • Proton Soup January 24, 2012 at 11:48 pm

      not sure about $$$. the two things i'm aware of are 1) Blitzer's AIPAC lobbying you allude to, and 2) CNN's working with Pentagon Psyops: link to fair.org

      of course, it's hard to divine the whole israel/pentagon relationship atm, since the Pentagon put Israel on notice about false flag ops. between that, and the Adler incident, i actually have a bit of hope for the current situation. because it puts Israel in the precarious situation of taking the blame for whatever unfortunate incidents may happen.

    • Proton Soup January 23, 2012 at 7:35 pm

      thing is, Newt is politically promiscuous and has an open relationship with conservative and liberal issues, with american and foreign interests. he'll take their money, sure. but when he actually gets in there, meets with the Joint Chiefs, and they explain that it's not just a matter of halting blockades to keep the straight open... when they explain that a few strikes to take out loading ports and processing facilities will stop the flow... and the resulting oil crisis will return the USA to a Jimmy Carter economy...

      when the consequences to Newt become apparent, there is no guarantee Newt will dance with the one who brung him. they would need some really good dirt on the guy to keep him in line, and frankly, i'm not sure you could embarrass or shame Newt. Newt is the Honey Badger of Scandal. Newt don't care.

  • Military indoctrination at Nazi death camps stokes... universal democratic values!
    • Proton Soup January 25, 2012 at 12:49 am

      yes, indoctrination does work better on teens. the military has known this for a long time, which is why they like to get kids right out of high school, destroy their individuality, then build them back up as a member of the group. and in fact, modern science is learning why: the prefrontal cortex is not fully ripe until about age 25.

      link to hhs.gov
      link to youtube.com

  • The Mondo crew hosts WBAI’s 'Beyond the Pale' to discuss Ron Paul, Dennis Ross and the myth of Obama's 'Jewish problem'
    • Proton Soup January 25, 2012 at 2:59 pm

      Not necessarily. The detonation/implosion system is at least as difficult. Then of course, the delivery systems.

      maybe. but they are also acquiring the basic science for controlled shape charges and such via their legitimate nanodiamonds project. doesn't mean they will build one (and i happen to think it's their right to do so), but they are acquiring all the know-how.

    • Proton Soup January 21, 2012 at 4:11 pm

      did mearsheimer say enrichment was "problematic"? i do remember him talking about it, but i'm not sure he shares the fear of it.

      in any case, i think it is true that enrichment is the most technically difficult element required for building nukes. if you want to build a Hiroshima-sized fission bomb, then it's just a matter of amassing enough U-235 so that it goes boom when you compress it with high explosives, but small enough it doesn't go critical on its own. the higher yield stuff is probably much harder, but the old-fashioned bombs aren't technically sophisticated.

      but the bigger "problem" for israel isn't fear of being wiped off the map. everyone knows it would be mutually-assured destruction with israel exercising the Samson Option. no, the bigger fear is the world in general, and USA in particular, seeing a thriving, technologically-advanced, cultured people in the M.E. that is not israel. the PR value of such a thing would be devastating.

    • Proton Soup January 20, 2012 at 8:10 pm with 2 replies

      these fears of Ron Paul's economic policies seem a bit skewed to me. first of all, as Smedley Butler realized nearly a century ago, War is a Racket: link to warisaracket.org

      America has been in a state of near-continuous war since WWII, and how does that play out on the economic justice argument? i'd say your only way to get something out of that if you're on the bottom tier is to join the army - a typical way out for minorities. but as Butler points out, your chances of losing your life, body, mind, and cash are all extremely high with this strategy. you'll also be saddled with a lifetime of debt to pay back in taxes, and unless you're someone like Mitt Romney, your fair share will be a lot higher than 15%. so, let's be honest here, war is the exact opposite of economic justice. war is corporate welfare for the elites.

      Ron Paul is also for ending the federal war on drugs. is the war on drugs economic justice? i don't think so. it certainly does lock up a lot of minorities, who, with criminal records (often felonies) will be locked out of economic opportunities for the rest of their lives. heck, even prisons are corporatized these days, making the drug war yet another corporate elite welfare system.

      then there is the Federal Reserve as was mentioned before. what bigger scam is there than this to steal money from the public? most people seem to think it is part of the government, but it is a private institution. and Ron Paul is the guy leading the fight in Congress to audit them and keep them accountable. heck, we don't even need them, as the U.S. Treasury has all the authority needed as granted in the Constitution to print money and control the supply.

      but let's say you don't buy any of that. then remember, Paul is running for President. his authority would be executive, not legislative. he simply won't be able to come in and pull the rug out from under the poor if that's your fear. but as chief executive, what can he do? he can keep us out of wars. and he can rein in much of the abuse of executive authority domestically that is turning us into a police state.

      i'm sorry folks, but Chris Hedges is right. liberalism is dead, they've all been bought. all that we have left now is fascism in democrat and republican flavors. economic injustice has only increased, with no discernible difference between Bush and Obama. this is why Paul is demonized by both sides, he threatens the elite status quo.

  • Cantor--who promised Netanyahu Congress has your back-- is named 3rd most powerful man in D.C. by GQ
    • Proton Soup January 19, 2012 at 12:59 am

      oh yeah, Cantor, how can one forget his racist rant dehumanizing an entire race of people and comparing them all to terrorists based on a story of one person's attempt? this is true power!
      link to mondoweiss.net

      Donald! how come no one in the mainstream ever speaks up against anti-gentilism? what is the source of this one-way sensitivity? why is this man a hero instead of a zero? instead of toning it down, he's being encouraged to tone it up. this is why your post is a lightning rod. people who think antisemitism is the problem have a poor sense of reality.

  • Pro-Israel 'lawfare' group seeks to censor Twitter account for Hezbollah's TV station
  • David Remnick erases Norman Finkelstein
    • Proton Soup December 15, 2011 at 4:29 pm

      it doesn't matter so much in the short run if Finkelstein is ignored. the important thing is getting the info out there with less chance of it getting ignored or beaten down. when the facts become accepted over the myth, then worry about credit.

  • Welcome Annie Robbins as Writer at Large
  • Beinart says Israel must give citizenship to Palestinians under occupation
    • Proton Soup December 7, 2011 at 1:20 am

      I disagree that Mr. Golub the Shalom TV guy argued with the student Donna Koran. He gave her a chance to add some informative details and to extend her remarks. This is an important — essential — part of this video.

      i have to agree. i don't think he was so much arguing with her at the end. he did pretty good except the last "question" was more like he was trying to put words in her mouth because he wants to end on a conciliatory note. she's really nervous, so it is painful to watch, but i don't think it rises to cruelty.

  • Read the Ambassador's speech on settlements fostering anti-Semitism that has neocons calling for his scalp
    • Proton Soup December 6, 2011 at 3:25 am

      what he talked about is basically what Finkelstein calls the "New Antisemitism". which is more properly Anti-Zionism. it caused a war because, like Finkelstein, he's undermining the ability to portray all criticism of Israel as anti-jewish. and, as you are probably well aware, Finkelstein is public enemy #1. loss of the ability to deflect all criticism of Zionism with images of the Holocaust would be a devastating blow.

      i would not expect them to let go of this one too easily.

  • A point for the Israel lobby theory, from Panetta
    • Proton Soup December 6, 2011 at 1:35 am

      did you see the interview Ehud Barak gave to Charlie Rose? the one where Barak says that Iran's nuclear ambitions are not about Israel, but about its neighbors (Pakistan, India, China, Russia) having nukes. Barak doesn't seem to think Iran's a real threat. why doesn't he suggest invading Pakistan? isn't Pakistan also a muslim country, yet incredibly more unstable? why is Iran public enemy number 1 instead? well, it could be that other little thing Barak mentioned in the interview: controlling 40% of the world's energy:

      "Allowing Iran to obtain nuclear weapons may eventually lead to the conquering of Qatar or Bahrain by the Islamic Republic....Who in the world will come to liberate them? It's (Persian Gulf region) is the source of 40 percent of the energy of the world."

      all of this is about oil, because it is the new great game, and empires run on oil. the price really does not matter much, because like water to farmers, or melange to the spacing guild, everything falls apart without it. israel's place in all of this is simply that they've been able (since proving their mettle for battle in '67 and now holding the nuclear blackmail card) to position themselves as both a hired thug in the region, and convenient excuse to knock over regimes whenever they're not doing things just as we would like. and the way we (NATO) like it is for us to decide who gets what and how much, and not for China and Russia to have much say. and heaven forbid something really crazy, like say Iran trading oil in another currency (such as china's now that we've blocked banking with iran). and, of course, Israel has gotten a lot in return - weapons, subsidies, even cheap energy like the discount gas piped in from that military dictatorship of ours, Egypt. and they get us looking the other way as they expand eretz yisrael, and blocking UN resolutions against it.

      thing is, iran's not a threat to israel, not even with nukes. on the contrary, israel is the destablizing nuclear force in the region, and has even resorted to some ill-timed missile tests recently to make it's threats obvious.

      Israel is simply an opportunist in all this. but they've gotten a bit too big for their britches. their goals are not as often coinciding with the empire's goals, and in fact are starting to seriously threaten them.

  • Marcus warns, US Jews could abandon Israel over treatment of women (ixnay about alestiniansPay)
    • Proton Soup December 3, 2011 at 12:25 am

      funny thing is, it's much worse for women than even she will let on. she's absolutely right, americans would be stunned if they realized the depths of depravity aimed at women in israel. so what if she's a hypocrite, if you just get it out there, it will undermine a whole host of fascists arguments like killing afghanis to save women. israel is very close to that now in some places. even the burkah is showing up on ultra-ultra-orthodox women (though the ultra-orthodox are complaining about it).

      link to haaretz.com

  • Even Foxman warns Israel's rightwing tilt will kill the brand
    • Proton Soup December 2, 2011 at 10:43 pm

      peasants? would you be referring to the exploding haredi population? the ultraorthodox are becoming quite a handful there, lately. just a few days ago, a bookstore in the Mea She’arim neighborhood of Jerusalem, after being attacked one too many times, has given in and will start acceding to demands to censor its offerings.

      images of females as young as 3 (based on the belief that Rebekah married at 3) are banned in public. this includes not only ads, but political candidate rosters. otherwise, those images are subjected to vandalism.

      there is some push back now, if feeble. buses are told they can no longer make women sit in the back, but social pressure is still strong. demands of the religious to segregate women in the army is threatening to destroy morale. women are being pushed out of government positions of leadership.

      so why would they want to bring back expats? the ads i saw (youtube videos) didn't look like they were tailored to the religious, but i couldn't understand the hebrew part. the ads looked geared toward seculars. and young. what are they coming back to defend? does israel feel it needs to defend the nation from outside forces? it has been pretty belligerent lately, and these are interesting times, yes. but there is this huge population of young haredi men available, if only they could pull them out of the yeshivas. why not enlist the religious right to defend israel? is the real threat coming from within? is there a threat of civil war, or even worse, the secular government collapsing with just a whimper?

      the only other thought that comes to mind is that seculars may not care so much for this ever-expanding Eretz Israel. they're happy living on the west coast, no? if they are a threat to territorial expansion, decisions to bomb iran, etc., then i could see Foxman wanting to stop it. what i don't see is the average american having the slightest clue that this is even going on, so his argument seems odd to me. it certainly hasn't gotten the same traction as the Wodka ads.

  • Now they care
  • Could Ron Paul's Iowa surge finally open up political debate on Israel and Iran attack?
    • Proton Soup November 29, 2011 at 9:38 pm

      none of this matters. the religious right will not judge Gingrich as harshly for the following reasons.

      1) he's white.
      2) there's only one accusation against Gingrich (that i know of), and quite a few against Cain. and this plays right back into the fears from reason 1) - the religious white fear mostly this image of the sexually-aggressive black male. it's one of the reasons they take them out of public schools and put them either in a local church-run school, or homeschool.
      3) McCain. Look at how McCain dumped his now-crippled wife after coming back a crippled POW himself. all to wed some rich princess and buy his way into being a made political man.
      4) the Gingrich affair is old news.
      5) i don't think Gingrich is lying about it, and Cain (even if he's completely innocent here) appears to be lying through his teeth. trust is bigger than the actual issues.

      probably some more, but i'm getting bored with it. Cain is an obvious loser, and Gingrich the obvious winner. if you want to go after Gingrich, i'd try something like labeling him antiamerican for the freedom-hating stuff he displayed in the prior debate between him and Paul.

  • Praise the 'NYT' for exposing an American Jewish family's argument over Israel/Palestine
    • Proton Soup November 28, 2011 at 5:08 am

      Or why the Forward captioned a photograph from the Zionist Organization of America, "Three Zionists" as if it pictured 3 Martians (Mort Klein, Glenn Beck, Michele Bachmann).

      i believe this is about selling the idea that most of the israel lobbying comes not from jewish people, but from christian zionists. WRM says it's antisemitic to say otherwise, and he must be right since he's on the CFR.

      it's not that they're curiosities, but simply a couple of reliable examples to remember when one is needing to remind others that jewish people are never to blame for anything ever. so, christian zionism is the new talking point.

  • NBC and the Israel lobby
    • Proton Soup November 28, 2011 at 2:21 pm

      some more interesting stuff about Comcast/NBC/MSNBC. according to Cenk Uygur, Griffin at MSNBC claims they are THE ESTABLISHMENT.

      link to huffingtonpost.com

      and notice how much NBC loves war. whether it is Bush or Obama, NBC loves war. here is the transcript to what Jessica Yellin said about NBC executives (in that Democracy Now video at HuffPo) editing her stories to be more positive about Bush.
      link to transcripts.cnn.com

      COOPER: Jessica, McClellan took press to task for not upholding their reputation. He writes: "The National Press Corps was probably too deferential to the White House and to the administration in regard to the most important decision facing the nation during my years in Washington, the choice over whether to go to war in Iraq. The 'liberal media' -- in quotes -- didn't live up to its reputation. If it had, the country would have been better served."

      Dan Bartlett, former Bush adviser, called the allegation "total crap."

      What is your take? Did the press corps drop the ball?

      JESSICA YELLIN, CNN CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT: I wouldn't go that far.

      I think the press corps dropped the ball at the beginning. When the lead-up to the war began, the press corps was under enormous pressure from corporate executives, frankly, to make sure that this was a war that was presented in a way that was consistent with the patriotic fever in the nation and the president's high approval ratings.

      And my own experience at the White House was that, the higher the president's approval ratings, the more pressure I had from news executives -- and I was not at this network at the time -- but the more pressure I had from news executives to put on positive stories about the president.

      I think, over time...

      COOPER: You had pressure from news executives to put on positive stories about the president?

      YELLIN: Not in that exact -- they wouldn't say it in that way, but they would edit my pieces. They would push me in different directions. They would turn down stories that were more critical and try to put on pieces that were more positive, yes. That was my experience.

      Ashleigh Banfield had an interesting experience at NBC
      link to en.wikipedia.org

      In April 2003, in a speech at Kansas State University, Banfield raised concerns regarding media coverage of the conflict in Iraq. She also spoke against "cable news operators who wrap themselves in the American flag and go after a certain target demographic", and specifically named Fox News Channel as an example.[3] The New York Times reported that her speech angered NBC management, who rebuked her and lowered her profile.[2]

      I was office-less for ten months ... No phone, no computer. For ten months I had to report to work every day and ask where I could sit. If somebody was away I could use their desk. Eventually, after ten months of this, I was given an office that was a tape closet. They cleared the tapes out and put a desk and a TV in there, and a computer and phone. It was pretty blatant. The message was crystal clear. Yet they wouldn't let me leave. I begged for seventeen months to be let out of my contract. If they had no use for me, let's just part ways amicably—no need for payouts, just a clean break. And [NBC News President Neal Shapiro] wouldn't allow it. I don't know what his rationale was—perhaps he thought I would take what I felt was a very strong brand, and others felt was a very strong brand, to another network and make a success of it. Maybe that's why he chose to keep me in a warehouse. I will never forgive him for his cruelty and the manner in which he decided to dispose of me.
      —in New Canaan-Darien Magazine, January 2009[4]

      here's what got Banfield in hot water at NBC: link to alternet.org

      and notice NBC hires children of Clinton, Bush, and McCain.
      link to salon.com

  • NY criminal probe: Why did $1.6 million of heiress's loot go to settlement her lawyer's daughter lives in
    • Proton Soup November 22, 2011 at 6:00 pm

      amazing. obvious elder abuse, because as we get older, we all succumb to loss of mental function. there is no excuse here. people who are trained to assist the elderly are told in no uncertain terms that you do not accept even unsolicited gifts. even the lowliest nursing assistants know this, as it is part of CNA licensing training. her nurse should have protected her patient's interests.

      the other thing, it's an obvious hate crime. here they have a vulnerable goy and they bled her dry.

      Garcia's comments here are interesting. maybe they just forged it all.
      link to nbcmiami.com

  • Should have seen this coming - Dershowitz defends Paterno
    • Proton Soup November 23, 2011 at 3:53 am

      i don't know about all this I/P stuff and collective punishment (since when is this a christian concept, isn't the old testament full of this?), but as for covering up the child abuse, now that is something that may be of direct interest. for you see, there is a huge scandal of unreported/unprosecuted child molestation in the orthodox jewish community. this stuff mostly flies under the radar of the MSM. only a few bloggers like failedmessiah will even touch it. the thing is, they do not believe in turning their fellow brethren over to secular authorities, preferring to handle these issues "internally" in a religious court. now, where this gets sticky is there are often mandatory reporting laws in effect, meaning that rabbis and others working with children may be criminally liable in some cases where they are not only not reporting cases to police, but even taking steps to silence victims and their family in these communities.

      in the past, these communities have been pretty successful in covering up these crimes, with the rabbis enforcing silence, and secular authorities controlled. but since the murder of Leiby Kletzky, attitudes toward avoiding secular courts may be changing. for example, the Forward has been putting pressure on the Brooklyn D.A. to release data.
      link to forward.com

      just how far they will get is anyone's guess, but the potential criminal and civil liability is huge. bigger still is the delusional fallout of false piety. Dersh has to nip this one in the bud before it spreads. also, the Epstein thing mentioned above... perhaps some are aware that there are rumors that boys were pimped out to big donors at penn state. so there might also be an angle of protecting someone else entirely.

      anyhoo, really strange to see someone as creepy as dersh hired to protect someone whose prior reputation was as good as paterno's.

  • US protesters stand in solidarity with Palestinian Freedom Riders
  • 'If Rosa Parks could have called a press conference it would have looked like this'
    • Proton Soup November 16, 2011 at 4:54 pm

      i've been thinking about this for a while. the thing is, you've got to be sneaky about it. you can't announce what you're doing, or what you've done. most especially it can't be obvious how. the very first thing the IDF navy did when intercepting the boats was transmitting radio interference. secrecy and flexibility are key. satellites are probably not necessary. you could broadcast WiFi to multiple recipients nearby. you might even want to jump around and use some different frequencies or technologies, or even have equipment that broadcasts on delay. you might even embed recorders in equipment that could be retrieved in a more invasive manner later, assuming the equipment is returned. but most of all, you can't be predictable.

  • Dueling messages on Iran
  • Pro-Israel blogger's call for killing Palestinians earns rebuke from Wash Post ombudsman, clap on back from editorial editor
  • Behind closed doors Sarkozy and Obama spill the beans
    • Proton Soup November 8, 2011 at 4:16 am

      thank you sir for posting this gem. have a link? it's even better than Netanyahugate

      link to mondoweiss.net
      Netanyahu: Especially today, with America. I know what America is. America is something that can easily be moved. Moved to the right correction.

  • Tutu: East Jerusalem echoes Cape Town
    • Proton Soup November 6, 2011 at 3:37 pm

      She sighs, and adjusts herself before continuing. “I long for the old Israel, where I traveled alone to Gaza the day after we won the 1956 war. Moshe was already a war hero, known to Israelis and Arabs alike. When I met the Palestinian mayor, I introduced myself as Ruth Dayan. The mayor almost had a heart attack.” She giggles. “His aides fled the scene. He cautiously asked me what my business was, and I replied that I wanted to see their rugs. He was astonished. ‘Rugs?’ he asked me. I was the head of Maskit at the time, a chain of arts-and-crafts stores. We were employing Bulgarian immigrants, and I wanted to include Arabs. I hired Arabs all over the country to make rugs and other merchandise.

      hahaha! well, you can say one thing about the original israelis, they weren't cowards!

  • Finkelstein on Goldstone
    • Proton Soup November 6, 2011 at 3:57 pm

      Or its corollary: to think they are besieged or hated, as if that’s all the rest of the world has to worry about. No wonder they invented psychotherapy. ;-)

      actually, i've got a little theory about that. i think it was also in Slezkine's book where he mentions Freud, and his detest of Americans. says something along the lines of "American's have no subconscious." :D what a revealing statement that was. and then it hit me that Freud invented psychotherapy as a way for the newly secular jew to talk about the soul. and they were coming from these often fundamentalist religious upbringings where there is really no room for sins, one must be perfect and obey all the 613 or so jewish laws. so it's no wonder there would be so much denial and suppression of illicit desires to the subconscious. this is in direct opposition to even the fundamentalist christian way of approaching things in America, where, despite often strict standards, there is this approach of examining ones heart, admitting shortcomings (at least to oneself) and asking forgiveness before moving on. what does it profit Freud to look into the American's soul when he is already doing so?

    • Proton Soup November 3, 2011 at 4:26 pm with 2 replies

      the comparison to mccarthyism is interesting. because, as Slezkine has detailed, there were three great jewish migrations last century (america, ussr, israel), all with great ambitions. and so you had all these russian spies and sympathizers in the US, many of them jewish. and they were traitors, and they were a threat, and they could be hard to root out because of this stigma that trumps all: being labeled as a moser.

      it is amazing just how powerful this need for acceptance in the jewish community is. it happened to Goldstone ("A year ago, protesters from Jewish groups threatened to demonstrate outside his grandson's bar mitzvah in Johannesburg and the judge said he would not attend as a result..." -- NYTimes). and we recently watched Derfner backpedal.

      and now, the threat of "mccarthyism" is more or less dead in america. agents of that other migration, israel, operate more or less with impunity, and even the rare egregious traitors like Pollard need not fear death. heck, we'll even let the wife go. would a little McCarthy revival really be such a bad thing now?

  • The Israeli army shot at me and 3 Palestinian kids in Gaza today
    • Proton Soup October 30, 2011 at 2:19 am

      well, you know what they call soldiers that intentionally target unarmed women and children, don't you? they're called terrorists.

      and i'm doubly amused that settlers attacking olive pickers are now choosing that old terrorist cliche of covering their faces.

    • Proton Soup October 30, 2011 at 2:11 am with 1 replies

      i'm sure he means the one supposed rocket fired from Gaza that has set off the latest hostilities. whatever it takes to block statehood and get back on track to the process, you know.

  • What's good for Gaza was not good enough for Shalit
    • Proton Soup October 23, 2011 at 5:22 pm

      anyone want to take a guess about what this diet has done to Shalit's fertility? i mean, we know it's had its intended effect on the Gazans, as fertility has gone down.

      link to indexmundi.com

      anyone want to make some suggestions as to what laws are being violated when you actively take steps to reduce the birth rate of a people? (hint: the general population is ignorant of what it really means)

  • Feingold says Palestinian Authority doesn't acknowledge Israel's right to exist
  • Endangered Palestinian village gets int'l media attention-- except from the U.S.
    • Proton Soup October 19, 2011 at 10:45 pm with 5 replies

      i know Samantha Power isn't exactly everyone's favorite person around here, but there is one key thing i learned from her book. and that is the story of Raphael Lemkin. link to en.wikipedia.org

      and in the last couple of years, i've had to ask myself some questions about my own ignorance of the man. why didn't i know who he was? why is he never mentioned in the movies? why has Spielberg not made a hero of him? there are only a couple of obscure plays. as Joel Stein pointed out in the LA Times just a few months before his column dries up, Hollywood is most definitely led dominantly by jewish people, and there's nothing inherently bad in pointing that out.

      given this, why is Lemkin a leper ? well, i have no smoking gun here, but i think i know why: he's damn inconvenient. Lemkin and his Genocide did more to throw a wrench in the plans for an expansionist Israel than any other figure, living or dead. this all would have been settled decades ago, were it not for this one man, and their perpetual gyrations to avoid his judgement. i'm convinced that this man is hated, and it's precisely for the topic you bring up.

      yes, it looks like genocide. and no, most people won't recognize it because the public has not been educated as to what exactly genocide entails (i certainly wasn't). and yes, they are not unaware. on the contrary, they are very aware, and will be waiting with all the legal loopholes to prove to you that this is not quite exactly what it appears to everyone else to be.

  • Terrific young Israeli journalists are indispensable
  • Zuckerman turned on Obama over Israel. 'WSJ' refuses to say so
  • Is Occupy Wall Street anti-Semitic?
    • Proton Soup October 16, 2011 at 2:42 pm

      it used to be the "rich greedy bastards" were WASPs. it's going to take some time for them to get used to this, but just as brown is the new black, jewish is the new white.

  • Bill Kristol: 'We need to hear' that Obama has gone to war on Iran
    • Proton Soup October 16, 2011 at 3:34 pm with 1 replies

      Kristol is a rat, and it's crystal clear where his lines lead back to.

      he's going to regret writing this. Arbabsiar is one of the silliest schemes ever to hatch from FBI psy-ops. some washed up used car salesman thinks he can solve his current economic crisis by making some fast money selling drugs. only he runs into an informant who wants to talk some B.S. about hypothetical spy-vs-spy. heck, who doesn't discuss James Bond theoreticals, especially when they're having a drink, smoking a doobie, and somebody else steers the conversation in that direction? i'm guessing we won't ever see an unedited version of it.

      it's not even a plot. it's a complete fabrication. one of the most transparent frauds ever conceived.

  • 'Commentary' smear of Occupy Wall St. doesn't bother to get basic facts right
    • Proton Soup October 14, 2011 at 3:43 pm

      yes, absolutely. coming from ziosupremecists, shouting "anti-semite" is equivalent to using the n-word. of course they would shout ****** here. when you belong to the most successful ethnic group, and people want to overturn your applecart, you lose your cool and say rash things.

  • Neocon orgs seek to paint Wall St protests as anti-semitic
    • Proton Soup October 16, 2011 at 12:35 am

      only watched the first video. and about a minute of the second. Danny "Lotion Man" Cline tells the old guy "You're a bum, jew, man. I'm a jew. Why are you fighting with us?"

      OK. so he likes to provoke people.

    • Proton Soup October 14, 2011 at 3:50 pm

      "anti-semite" is now a racial slur.

  • Americans believe red herring-- Iran is Enemy #1. Why?
    • Proton Soup October 13, 2011 at 5:13 pm with 2 replies

      Napolitano isn't buying it. but not sure how much of this gets out to the typical FOX viewer now that he's been pigeonholed in FOXBusiness.

      link to youtube.com
      link to youtube.com

    • Proton Soup October 13, 2011 at 3:17 pm

      our biggest ideological enemy at the moment is Israel.

      as for Empire, the usual players like Russia, and now China is building a naval base in Pakistan. not to mention India with its space program (intercontinental ballistic missiles), and Turkey with its pipeline empire.

      and Iran? they're completely boxed in. what have they got except oil?

  • Some preliminary questions about the alleged Iranian terror plot
  • Creeping halacha?
    • Proton Soup October 11, 2011 at 9:13 pm

      unfortunately, the marginalization of women happens all the time. they are routinely cut out of photographs in newspapers, told to get to the back of the bus in some israeli communities, etc. but if you really want to see the extent of the religious extremism going on in the united states, then make sure to check out the case of Aron Rottenberg, a man who did not pray where he was told, and so became an arson victim and burned over half his body. make sure to check out the comments from the community resident in the first link's video, see what he thinks about U.S. laws.

      link to failedmessiah.typepad.com
      link to failedmessiah.typepad.com

  • Operation Enduring Failure: Ten years of war on Afghanistan
    • Proton Soup October 7, 2011 at 6:28 pm with 1 replies

      in addition to mucking in vietnam, we were mucking around in afghanistan prior, too. there's an old interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski where he crows about setting the Soviets up there.

      link to globalresearch.ca

      Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn't believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don't regret anything today?

      B: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter. We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.

      i do think the poppies are part of the strategy. it wasn't so long ago that the Russians themselves were complaining about it.
      link to reuters.com

      but as for the real reasons to be there, it's actually petroleum. and stategery. yes, i realize afghanistan likely has no oil to speak of, but they are the route for the TAPI pipeline, bringing oil and gas from the Caspian Sea region south to Pakistan and India.

      link to ensec.org

      so, it's about gas. it's also about economic development for companies that will be looking to invest there. already Russia is looking to step in and build factories to steal some of our thunder, and China is building a naval port where some of this will be routed off to the Pakistan coast.

      and, of course, it completely pins Iran between assets that we have either control over, or sway with, like Turkey.

      much of this rightly stinks to high heaven. we were negotiating with the Taliban right before 9/11, and then afterwards, when we're supposedly jumping in to get bin Laden and al Qaeda, we let both him and a bunch of his friends slip right on out of Afghanistan into Pakistan.

      and then, for the icing on the cake, the US causes more civilian deaths than the resistance there.

      link to en.wikipedia.org

  • What do a Jewish state and a Catholic table have in common?
    • Proton Soup October 7, 2011 at 3:36 am with 1 replies

      Jewish in what way? Jewish as a religion, or Jewish as an ethnicity? it almost seems as if the confusion is deliberate. what exactly are the Palestinians being asked to recognize? what exactly is my nation being asked to support? and does accepting that Israel is to be a safe haven for Jews mean accepting that it is not safe for everyone else?

  • Rambunctious reporters question US State Dept's double standard on Syrian/Palestinian aspirations
    • Proton Soup October 6, 2011 at 3:29 pm

      so who owns/controls AP? i know what the unwashed masses of the internet says, but AP claims to be a not-for-profit co-operative owned by the news agencies that use its stories. wikipedia has a banner up saying the wiki page is written like advertising, which seems strange on its face for something that is a not-for-profit.

      link to en.wikipedia.org

  • Israel to the international community: 'This is not a pipe'
  • Let's negotiate over how we divide the pizza while I eat the pizza
  • White House sells Quartet statement on negotiations as 'a major accomplishment in Israel's favor'
    • Proton Soup September 26, 2011 at 6:43 pm with 4 replies

      if there are no preconditions to peace, then it seems pretty obvious that proceeding with the UN statehood bid is no impediment to peace. Palestine can return to the negotiating table with its upgraded status, and Israel will have no problem with this because there are no preconditions.

  • Breaking: 'Irvine 11' found guilty on two charges for protesting Michael Oren
    • Proton Soup September 24, 2011 at 5:15 am

      this is beautiful, absolutely beautiful. i went round and round with some dip elsewhere about how this was not in their interest to pursue charges against these students, and now... now in glorious fashion it has blown back in their faces at the most inopportune time.

      what does this verdict speak to those who see it? that zionists hate freedom of speech, and by extension, everything this nation stands for.

  • New Dem panic: If Obama's such a great friend, why didn't he go to Israel?
    • Proton Soup September 21, 2011 at 12:26 pm with 2 replies

      it's not the vote, it's the funding. it's the money that goes into attack ads. it's also the access to the media apparatus, controlling who the public thinks the serious candidates are.

      until someone else has control of the eyeballs in america, nothing will change.

  • Translating revolution between J14 and the Israeli embassy in Cairo
    • Proton Soup September 20, 2011 at 12:43 am

      thank you. you just saved me a bottle of aspirin. i knew it seemed familiar, and now i'm remembering why i couldn't finish the Communist Manifesto. what is up with this queer writing style? it's like the steaganography of revolutionaries.

  • 'The Times' lies about Charles Percy's record
  • 'Washington Post' column refers to 'powerful Israel lobby' as factor in 2012 campaign
    • Proton Soup September 17, 2011 at 2:21 pm

      it wasn't just an Armenian Genocide, it was also Assyrians and Greeks. more of a Christian Genocide, and closer to 3 million souls lost.

      that said, the Turks are going to be a difficult force to reckon with. because they are a major pipeline corridor between east and west. and even israel will depend on turkey for "water, natural gas, oil, electricity and fiberoptics".
      link to hurriyet.com.tr

      that's the sort of diplomatic bargaining power that not only affects behavior now, but far into the future.

  • Israeli officials say they are just trying to help Palestinians, and Americans, climb down out of the tree
    • Proton Soup September 16, 2011 at 1:33 pm with 1 replies

      we already know how bibi negotiates from his crowing to the settlers about his negotiating tactics at oslo. whatever you think you've negotiated, he will interpret as something else.

  • Will Libya victory feed western hubris?
    • Proton Soup September 5, 2011 at 7:16 pm with 3 replies

      citation? just go back and read articles on the progression of the conflict. the rebels did not fight this war, NATO did. in fact, NATO considered them a bunch of bungling idiots that couldn't do much more than get themselves killed. NATO would bomb the hell out of a Gaddafi-held town, then you'd see video of rebels riding into town unopposed to declare victory.

      and all this time that the rebels were held up as a propaganda tool, they were trying to get funding for their war. all the way up to the very end here, the rebels were trying to get access to Gaddafi's overseas accounts. but for whatever reason, the legal obstacles were never hurdled. i know they were also talking to some other sources like the chinese, but not sure if anything came of that either. at least not openly. probably we will not see cash flow until sometime after NATO has chosen who will be new leader. maybe that leader will also be an old oil company exec like Karzi.

      but just you all wait. right now, no one that wants to be in the transition has any choice but to agree to everything from NATO if they want a part in the new government. but after that, when they've managed to wrest control from NATO, if the new leaders start mumbling about nationalizing the oil as Gaddafi did... then we will see a pox of insurrection again, and perhaps NATO itself will be right back in there to save the day. because the west is not going to give them anything of substantial value for their product. not when we can mint fresh dinero out of thin air through our banks.

      the rebels weren't really our mercenaries, imo. more like political pawns to manipulate public opinion. they weren't relevant, and they weren't funded in any meaningful way. in fact, the NTC is now telling them to go home: thanks guys, but we've got it from here. oh, and mumblings about all that firepower in their hands seems to trouble them also. seems they want to disarm the freedom fighters. why on heaven's earth would the NTC fear freedom?

  • Avnery says UN vote could bring violence/crackdown to West Bank
    • Proton Soup September 5, 2011 at 7:54 pm

      i'm sure they don't see it as being like child soldiers in africa. more like american settlers in the wild west, where boys become man of the house when dad is out getting food or cash for his crops and cattle. you never know when wild savages will invade the home, raping and stealing and scalping.

  • Mea culpa, Irene
    • Proton Soup September 5, 2011 at 8:04 pm

      meh, you're still drama queens. it's just not the kind of inclement weather you're used to is all. with blizzards, you'd probably just hunker down and tough it out. just another day. wind and torrential rain? not so much.

      here in alabama, we get that sort of weather all the time. people are used to it (this year being a dramatic exception). but every time snow is in the forecast, we clear the shelves of bread and milk. few dare to drive in it, and yankees have a bit of a chuckle over it. which is just fine, really.

  • Romney refuses to bash Muslims because as a Mormon he knows what it's like to be an attacked minority (says Eli Lake)
    • Proton Soup August 21, 2011 at 1:48 pm with 1 replies

      i think the usual sort of excuse you will get goes along the lines of jews keeping to themselves and being isolationist, not evangelical like islam. so that when the guys up in new square try to burn aron rottenberg out of his home for praying at the wrong place, this is called an "internal matter" and therefore should not be compared in any way to sharia. of course, fundamentalist mormons are often pretty isolationist as well, but with much less respect for the sovereignty of their lands.

  • Will the tent protests break out of the neoliberal-Zionist-security box?
    • Proton Soup August 8, 2011 at 1:07 am

      i was surprised to see Elbit listed as a property management company. i had known them as a defense industry company.

  • 'NYT' columnist cites Congressional unanimity on Gaza slaughter--and embraces 'J Street' to 'balance' lobby
    • Proton Soup August 5, 2011 at 8:34 pm

      this idea of a "liberal" MSNBC is a bit of a joke. MSNBC/NBC fancies itself as the "Establishment", whatever that means. but given the experience of Jessica Yellin and the treatment of Ashleigh Banfield, it would seem that the Establishment is a kind of corporatism that likes big wars and the big spending that goes along with that. sure, they're not objective, but it's not the sort of subjectivity you may think it is, either. it is simply a partisan-branded version of the powers that be.

      link to huffingtonpost.com
      link to alternet.org
      link to en.wikipedia.org

  • Dershowitz uncut: Dersh fears circumcision on the chopping block in the wake of BDS success
    • Proton Soup August 4, 2011 at 8:35 pm

      a sue-y genus perhaps? but surely lawyering isn't genetic.

    • Proton Soup August 3, 2011 at 8:30 pm

      Cuba? CUBA?! he has the nerve to bring up Cuba, the nation south of us that we have been beating over the head with sanctions for decades?

      and then Armenians? the "no one remembers the Armenians, especially Israel" Armenians? i'm starting to understand just why Finkelstein loves cutting this guy a new one. what chootspa!

  • Col. Travers: Israel's treatment of Palestinian children shows that it does not seek peace
    • Proton Soup July 11, 2011 at 8:18 pm

      anybody know what happened with this scandal?

      link to occupiedpalestine.wordpress.com

      01.11.10 – 10:59 Bethlehem – PNN – Palestinian Minister of Prisoner Affairs Issa Qaraqa’ said he has uncovered a new scandal in the treatment of child prisoners by Israeli soldiers, in which Israeli soldiers urinated on two 13-year-old boys and held them naked in a bathroom for two days.

      Qaraqa’ said that he had contacted a lawyer on behalf of two detained children, Muhammad Tariq Abd al-Latif Mukhaymar and Muhammad Nasir Ali Radwan, both 13 and from Beit Awar. They were detained last July, when they were in the sixth grade.

      Mukhaymar said that border guards arrested him and Radwan near the wall, on Street Number 443 near Beit Awar, beat them severely, bound their hands, blindfolded them, and transported them to the nearby settlement of Binyamin.

      He said the soldiers then pushed them into a bathroom and forced them to take off their clothes. They said they were left naked in the bathroom for two days without food or water and that the soldiers set the air conditioning unit to blow cold air for the duration.

      Mukhaymar said he was very thirsty and had to drink the toilet water and suffered from severe chills, and every time he and Radwan tried to sleep, the soldiers came into wake them up.

      He said the worst thing that happened, however, was that when the soldiers came in they didn’t relieve themselves in the toilet, but urinated on the boys’ heads and faces instead. The soldiers then mocked and laughed at them while one took pictures.

      After the two days in this cruel condition, said Mukhaymar, they were led into Binyamin settlement and interrogated from 10 p.m. until 3 a.m., then taken to Ofer Military Camp. They remained there for three months, then were transported to the youth prison in Rimonim. They were never arraigned in court.

      Minister Qaraqa’ said, “The base inhumanity of the occupation soldiers has been on the rise lately. The Ministry of Prisoners will present a complaint against the Israeli soldiers that committed this abomination.”

  • Update: US Boat to Gaza returns to port after being stopped by Greek Coast Guard
    • Proton Soup July 1, 2011 at 2:51 pm

      sure, but the greeks being in an economic pickle are somewhat reliant on outsiders helping to bail them out. greece isn't in much of a position to argue when told to do something. short-term, it will cost the greeks a small amount, but long-term the cost might be much higher. consider also the greeks now have a bargaining chip. greece could say they want the interest on their loans cut in half, or they will release the flotilla. how much is this really worth?

  • Irish Ship to Gaza: Sabotage of M.V. Saoirse is 'an act of international terrorism'
  • Flotilla activists undergo nonviolence training (Israel fears mass nonviolent protest above all)
  • Irish flotilla ship will not sail to Gaza due to extensive sabotage
  • Israel warns foreign journalists who go on flotilla they could be barred from country for 10 years
    • Proton Soup June 26, 2011 at 12:21 pm with 8 replies

      i find all this talk of "provocation" over a political protest a bit strange. it's starting to make israel sound less like a western country, and more like china. "israel says talk of taiwan independence is a provocation." "israel says honoring the Dalai Lama is a provocation." all one need do is exchange names, and our white house sounds like the mouthpiece for china/israel.

      but maybe i'm just seeing this in the moment. does the USG refer to israeli settlements as provocations?

  • Another sign of int'l isolation
    • Proton Soup June 25, 2011 at 3:04 pm

      i think some of this may reflect reciprocity of recent displays of friendship displayed by the catholic church. in particular, laying to rest the idea that "the jews" as a people are responsible for christ's death, and removing from communion those catholics who cling to that notion.

      link to usccb.org
      His presentation highlighted the levels of authoritative teaching in the Church, to which are owed corresponding degrees of assent. Father Massa noted that some teachings on Jews and Judaism found in Nostra aetate, the Second Vatican Council’s Declaration on Non-Christian Religions, reaches the level of dogma or defined doctrine. “One cannot hold to the charge that the Jewish people, either in the first century or at any other time, are responsible for the death of Jesus (the so-called charge of deicide) without falling out of communion with the Catholic Church. It contradicts both Vatican II (1962-1965) and the Council of Trent (1548-1563), not to mention a proper reading of the New Testament,” Father Massa stated.

  • Reporters hector State: Is the blockade legal? What right does Israel have to 'defend itself' from humanitarian aid?
  • White Shirts in Jerusalem cry 'Butcher the Arabs'
  • Zakaria lightbulb moment: Israel rules millions of 'serflike' disfranchised Palestinians
    • Proton Soup May 27, 2011 at 12:18 pm with 3 replies

      So in three years, an Israeli prime minister’s position has gone from “minor corrections” to “dramatic changes.” Netanyahu’s quarrel, it appears, is with himself.
      ...
      And Netanyahu will be remembered only as a person before the person who made peace, a comma in history.

      it would appear he is a comma chameleon

  • Tom Friedman says Israel and Salam Fayyad deserve credit for Arab revolutions
    • Proton Soup March 2, 2011 at 4:04 pm

      i think he is right about Obama. for now, at least. it may backfire when they figure out he is just Bush with a tan, but for now it works. and, if he can avoid initiating any new great invasions before his term(s) is up, i think the image will persist for some time.

      i'm not quite grasping his motivation for the section on Israel. does he really mean to say that Israel = Egypt ? that is pretty funny, and bound to ruffle some feathers.

  • What do you think he will say?
  • Crisis in Alabama averted, thanks to the ADL
    • Proton Soup January 24, 2011 at 2:17 am

      Danaa, as someone who lives here, I can tell you that I've been watching my state be denigrated in the media my whole life. And to be honest, I think the negativity only serves to discourage investment here, keeping people poor and perpetuating stereotypes, deserved and undeserved. In fact, it's something that concerns me a lot more than a simple jab at the Governor's religion. Anyone who is familiar with us knows that the True state religion is Football, anyhow. Did you know that a huddle is actually a prayer circle?

  • Comments Policy
    • Proton Soup March 19, 2012 at 2:54 am with 1 replies

      2. No Nakba or Holocaust denial. We're not going to tolerate any discussion of the Jewish role in the rise of the Nazis which is used as a pretext for blaming Jews for the Nazi rise, a form of Holocaust denial we want no part of. Similarly, this policy includes Nakba denial as well, and efforts to blame the expulsion of Palestinians in 1948 on Palestinian actions.

      this one is really annoying the hell out of me, and makes me think twice about Phil. it was not until i started learning about Edwin Black, Rabbi Weissmandel, and Benjamin Freedman that i started piecing together the reality of what actually happened. this is a hidden reality that wasn't shown to me in either my public education, or popular narratives shown in the media. talking about what the Zionists did to the Jews is not Holocaust denial, it's Holocaust acceptance. these Zionists are no more Jewish than the Nazis are Christian. and just as Germany could not be redeemed without dealing with the Nazi issue, neither can Israel be redeemed without dealing with the Zionist issue.

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