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Democracy, US style...... uh, I mean AIPAC style. Time for US to limit amounts spent on elections and to make it all payable by taxpayers (who already do pay for it but indirectly). Also, election season must be restricted to two months. Major reform needed if US democracy is to survive as a true democracy, I think.
I long for the day when ex-leaders have the courage to say what must be said about the zionist criminal acts, intentions and plans in Palestine when they are actually in power.
Thanks for the link. Makes sense.
That's great! But when is Matthews gonna take an anti-establishment but just stance on Palestine? Or maybe he'll never shed his PEP........
Hostage, you taught me something new today. Thank you.
Good point Hostage. How about something more fundamental like killing Palestinians by the zionist army including targeted assassinations by the military and the intelligence agencies?
HarryLaw, this is great info, wasn't aware of it. Thank you.
Truly shocking. This seems rather well orchestrated game and what's happening now is just a dry run for US/Israel to learn how to control ICC/ICJ when the courts take up the case of the Zionist criminal regime's colonialization of Palestine.
Palestine, beware. The game is being played in a devious way so as to pre-neutralize our ICC/ICJ action.
Thanks for sharing Phil.
Another zio-nut! Is there an endless supply of this species in the USA???
This has been going on since June 1967, day one of the occupation that I remember as a child. It has also been going on in 1948 Palestine against the Palestinians living there after the illegal establishment of the criminal zionist regime.
I remember how these criminals would stop a school bus full of kids then force them all to exit and stand by the bus for hours and hours under the rain, all night.
I remember "courtesy visits" by the regional colonialist commander to our house just to make sure the kids stay in line.
I remember standing in line for 10 to 12 hours to get a permit to travel in occupied Palestine only to be asked to come again tomorrow, and again the day after, and again.... and then get refused the permit.
I remember waiting over three months to get my travel document to go study abroad, having to go to Jerusalem or Bet Eil every day for three months to ask about the document only to be told after three months that the application was lost.
I can go on forever....
Nice try Mondonut but no cigar.......
1S1P1V is for all of historic 1948 Palestine, which certainly includes Gaza.
As to RoR, several folks above have very ably and eloquently responded to your point.
Danon publicly said what everyone in the zionist regime says privately and most zionist citizens believe in while sipping their lattes in their never-never land behind the apartheid wall.
Reference point: The coalition agreements of the current zionist government do not say anything about the 2SS.
Can you say 1S1P1V!!!
Hostage, you make reasonable legal points. As I am not a legal expert (not even a legal naive), I leave it to those who know to comment in detail. Having said that, I still believe that the foundation of our ICC/ICJ action ought to be based on equal rights to all including basic human and civil rights, which are universal rights.
;-) Just, together we shall overcome!
The question is: are Abbas, Erekat, Ashrawi, etc. listening? Or are they too enamoured being "VIP" with the occasional call or visit with Kerry, Ashton, and Blair??? They ought to focus on 1S1P1V with BDS, non-violent demos, and ICC/ICJ...... NOW!
Even if I were inclined to believe Kerry's words, they remain words where immediate action is needed.
Even if there were immediate US action, I believe it's a bit too little too late.
The illegal actions of the zionist regime and of the colonialist settlers have killed the 2SS. Only the 1S1P1V path is the solution now. We will continue that march supported by non-violent demonstrations, BDS, and ICC/ICJ action targeted at establishing a democratic secular State of the Holy Land with equal rights and obligations to all its citizens - Christians, Moslems, and Jews alike.
Simply beautiful. Hope Alicia hears the message. Thank you Alice!
iResistDe4iAm, you said it much more eloquently than I could have ever done myself. I agree with you totally. But it will never happen. So we are left with only the 1S1P1V option supported by vigorous and aggressive ICC/ICJ/BDS action plus massive daily peaceful demonstrations within and outside Palestine.
mondonut, you seem to forget that you and the zionist colonial settlers took MY land and MY houses, imprisoned MY people, stole MY freedom, took away MY livelihood, stole MY rights, and humiliate MY family and friends. Do you expect me to love you? Well, I have news for you: I don't.
All Palestinians have the right to return to their land, their country, their homes, their families. The entire world and international law recognize this basic human right.
I was very generous having your zionist state on the 1967 lines. But your zionist regime over-extended its welcome by wanting more than 78% of MY land and thus ended any possible coexistence by its extreme actions and the extreme action of the colonialist zionist settlers. You have to now live with the consequences of your extreme actions: 1S1P1V. This is a just, fair, and equitable solution after all.
Great argument ritzl. As I see it, it depends on the strategy my leaders take to the ICC. I would advocate all action in ICC/ICJ to be based on equal rights for all citizens based on the foundation that Israeli actions on the ground have already rendered the 2SS unworkable. So the ICC/ICJ path ought to be for 1S1P1V unless Israel agrees immediately to 1967 lines with a strict committed timetable for withdrawal ending in less than 3 months.
Yes Woody! 1S1P1V.
HarryLaw, I agree that 1S1P1V is not going to happen because Israel accepts it. It's going to happen in spite of Israel's objections and doings against it. It's going to happen due to the sheer force of momentum against zionist apartheid, supported by non-violent actions within and without Palestine, ICC/ICJ, dissolution of PA, BDS, etc. etc. etc.
This is a great dialog that Laham started. It reflects reality. The dominos will start to fall very soon. ICC/ICJ next then fall of PA. All lead to 1S1P1V - one state, one person, one vote. The only logical and feasible and just and secure and democratic path forward as the zionist regime has left us all with no other option. 1S1P1V.
1S1P1V - one state, one person, one vote. The actions of the criminal zionist regime and the criminal colonial settlers leave no choice to us but 1S1P1V. We will achieve that through non-violent action, turning current Israel into an apartheid state until 1S1P1V happens. The arc of history is long but it bends towards justice.
Absolutely superb, clear, poignant, and fact-based analysis!
Chas Freeman has undeniably one of the most brilliant politico-analytical minds in the world today. He also certainly understands the Palestine-Israel situation much better than many.
Obama made a fateful error (fateful to the ME) when he knelt to aipac and shunned Freeman instead of going to bat for him. What a strategic error.
ivri, I'm afraid Israel left us no choice. I want to have peace, justice, and security for all, not chaos. If Israelis want to as we'll they should press their government to immediately accept 2SS and begin its imp,entail. Right away. Otherwise, 1S1P1V is the only remaining path that the settler zionists force upon us all.
just, you're so gracious and generous. Thank you. It is a privilege to meet and interact with so many brilliant folks on MW, to whom I'm very greatful for their interest in Palestine.
American, I can never claim to understand US politics better than you. But, as I replied to MRW earlier, there's got to be a geo-political aspect here. Otherwise, the US will be caught not looking beyond its nose and lose on the world stage. Just my humble opinion.
American, very good post. Reality is not always reality!!
MRW, I totally see your POV and greatly respect your opinion that "all politics are local". However, I cannot just discard the geo-political dimension. After all, I'm sure there are groups and think tanks deep within the US gov that are focussing on long term strategic plays that go beyond local politics. Otherwise, the US ( and Russia, China, France, Germany, UK, etc.) will lose the big picture. This is like in Math: you may find yourself in a local maximum point and feel great but someone else is sitting in a global maximum point!!! You lose. She wins.
Well, well, well, ain't that the truth!
I am an eternal optimist, I must admit. But I have recently reached "eternity" and started advocating the 1S1P1V (one state, one person, one vote) reality since my fateful encounter with the limit of eternal optimism!
Some people say that USA cannot pressure Israel into a peace; the parties must want it. I came to the realization that this is wrong. USA certainly CAN dictate peace to Israel just by THREATENING to not fund the zionist state; USA doesn't even have to act on that threat for the zionist regime to accept a fair and just peace settlement.
My conclusion is that USA does NOT want to do this, as opposed to it cannot due to AIPAC, etc. USA does not want to, plain and simple. The reason is geopolitics.
Here's the rationale: a few years ago, a position was developing in the West including USA that, with the fall of the Soviet Union, Israel is less strategically important. In fact, some argued that it's value has been almost totally devalued. Fast forward a few years and the reverse is happening. Israel - by refusing to make peace with a Palestinian State, by the neocons' incitement and dragging of the West into wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, by encouraging and supplying weapons to Libya's rebels, by attacking Sudan, etc. etc. etc. - is perpetuating, nurturing, and sowing instability in the region so the zionist regime looks like the ONE AND ONLY stable nation in the region. With the Syrian crisis and the Russian support for Assad, the zionist regime is making it even clearer to USA and the West that it is Israel that protects the west's interest in the ME. Without Israel, USA and the West will not have a foothold in the ME or its oil. Hence, do not force the zionist regime to make peace.
As long as that broader geopolitical equation holds, there will be no peace in the Holy Land. The only way forward is 1S1P1V with total equality for all citizens of the DEMOCRATIC State of the Holy Land.
Mayhem, you clearly missed my argument. Please read it again. Thank you.
NormanF, I'm not sure where to start commenting on your points as the flaws and misstatements are everywhere. piotr did a great job already. Allow me make a couple of additional points:
>>> Jew hatred is unacceptable, inexcusable. Period. Just as it is against any other religion. But you might want to ask yourself why is it on the rise? Could it be due to the criminal actions that the zionist regime and colonialist extremsists commit against Palestinians and others in the region like attacking Syria totally unprovoked?
>>> You may want to check historical evidence to check for yourself if the USA, Europe, and the zionist movement did actually use the Holocaust as a key reason for voting to support UN 194 and the creation of Israel by illegally giving my land to someone else. My reading is that the facts are not on the side of your argument that "Israel is not by any means a result of the Holocaust".
>>> While it is true that all Western countries and other democratic nations have churches, they are not "Christian state churches" as you claim. I guess only the Vatican may have such a thing, but then it's not a democracy.
>>> While israel may not formally have a state religion, for sure Netanyahoo disagrees with you since he certainly pushed the notion of "Jewish State" very vigorously and persistently over the past several years - a new argument that was not part of the discourse before then. So yes, Israel certainly favors Jews over its other citizens and the zionist regime wants it to be a "Jewish State", empty of Palestinian Christians and Moslems.
>>> If your argument is to take Palestine since it's your ancient homeland based on an anecdotal document that you are using as a real-estate guide in 2012, then how about the Arabs taking over half of Europe since we were there only a few hundred years back, not four thousand years ago as your unjustified claim is over Palestine........
>>> You did not explain the circular logic that I pointed out in my original post when you replied "the only way the Jews could be safe is by being a majority in their own land and the masters of their own fate". Doesn't this accentuate differences and superiority and racism, which begets anti-semitism??
>>> Your argument that since Arabs have 22 countries, then there is no need for Palestine since the Jews must have at least one country. By your logic, I ask the mirror question: why North America has only three countries while Africa or Asia or Europe has much more? Maybe USA, Canada, and Mexico must be split into 20 countries? Oh wait, maybe USA must claim a few countries on one of these other continents? Or even better, each religion and sect in the world must have at least one country, including one for aethesists?? Not sure your argument makes sense to me at all.
>>> How were Arabs richly recompensated by the West after Turkish rule? Is it by the destruction of my country Palestine and its theft by zionists? Is it by the breakup of the Arab nation into many artificial secterian dictatorships for the sole purpose of the West stealing our oil? Is it through the wars, drones, killings, and occupation of Arab countires by the USA?
NormanF, please illuminate me.
Great article Sam. Thank you.
Obama's statement that "a *strong Jewish state* would ensure that there will never be another holocaust" begs a simple question and a simple observation.
The question: Mr. President, please explain how can a state based on religion also be democratic? Weren't the US Founding Fathers adamant on the principle of separation of state and church, for an important reason? Think Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Israel......
The observation: The creation of a state for Jews based on religion demonstrates Herzel's illogical circular zionist argument that to protect Jews from being singled out there is a need to create a state that is singularly for Jews. This drives the fundamental perpetuation of anti-semitism. IMHO, world Jewry ought to focus on how to protect Jews in ANY AND ALL COUNTRIES in the world, as a minority that MUST be protected along with any other minority. That's where the global united fight must focus as opposed to inventing a divisive fight based on the principle and belief that one religion is better than all others as bestowed by God onto the "chosen people". Indefensible, illogical, unsustainable position.
Kate, you're absolutely right in your observation.
Not to bore the gracious MW community... with "accents", the anglicized way would be: "darabani wa baka, sabaqani wa ishtaka". This is the Classical Arabic where the "ain (ع )" is used in "sabaqani".
In colloquial Arabic, depending where in Palestine or other Arab countries, we say "darabni w'baka, saba'ni wishtaka". Here the "ain (ع )" in "sabaqani" is pronounced as a "hamza (ء)", making it "saba'ni".
The dialect variations across Palestine are rather small and one easily understand across these. It's not the same across Arab countries as dialects are fundamentally differently that sometimes Classical Arabic is the only way to ensure understanding and correct communication.
Hope this clarifies just a bit Kate, and keep up your valiant study of Arabic language! We appreciate your interest and your support of the Palestinian cause.
da-rab-ni wa ba-ka, sa-ba’-ni wa shta-ka
Does this help, MRW?
Yes bintbiba, that's right... "darabni wa baka, saba’ni wa shtaka”. The rhyme is beautiful and the structure is extremely concise, just like all great arabic poetry. Your Mama will certainly be proud of you!!
We have a saying in Palestine that goes something like this: he hit me and he cried first, he hit me and he complained first. That's what Scott Wiesel is doing.
When AIPAC starts to promote the 2SS, you know there is something wrong with that approach!!! As always, The zionists and AIPAC are late to the game. The actions of the zionist regime leaves only one possible option: 1S1P1V, supported by action at the ICC/ICJ.
Blank State, you probably missed the last para in my initial post....... "Regardless, I believe we need to be readying the case for ICC/ICJ, and continue the drive towards 1S1P1V.".
Citizen, yet again, I'm afraid you're right but I hope you're wrong ;-)
Is there possibly a real but subtle change beneath all of this talk and travel from Kerry and Obama's speech at the military college on Thursday? Or is this just the same old?
Regardless, I believe we need to be readying the case for ICC/ICJ, and continue the drive towards 1S1P1V.
The zionist's approach has always been divide and conquer, then they deal with the consequence of that. The purpose is to cause chaos and delay as they believe that's how they win.
The zionists always used religion as the key dividing weapon. Since the day I started to be aware, they did that across Palestine. First in areas like Nazareth and other per-1948 Palestinina villages and towns, wherever there were Christians and Moslems. Then they did the same I. The cities, villages, and towns after they occupied them in the 1967 war.
Their approach is twofold: 1) explicitly sow divisions and invent issues that separate. 2) support the Christians with (a bit of) money for projects, schools, etc. and also treat them with kids gloves from an occupier perspective so the Moslems think that all Christians are traitors and collaborators with the occupation.
They have also done that very explicitly in Lebanon, resulting in the Sabra and Shatilla massacre, and the creation of Hezbollah and the Shiite strength in Lebanon. Totally backfired on the zionists.
They have also clandestinely supported sectarian divides across the region for years.
Now all the chicken are coming home to roost......
Peres: Wake me up when this gets real!
Simply beautiful!!! Way to go Paterson!!!!!! Hopefully soon more to come.
Also "misslim" is sometimes used in colloquial Arabic in Palestine.
Lapid just accelerated 1S1P1V.
Lapid was the hope of Israelis, Palestinians, Europeans, and Americans that the political thinking in Israel will change with him and we'll start seeing real movement towards 2SS. Now we hear Lapid stating positions more extreme and radical than Netanyahoo. He doesn't seem to understand that peace-justice-security come as a package. They are the three sides without which a triangle cannot be built.
Given what the zionist regime is doing, planning, and saying, the only remaining solution is 1S1P1V - one state, one person, one vote - for all citizens of the democratic and secular State of the Holy Land where Christians, Moslems, and Jews all live together in peace, security, and justice with equal rights and equal responsibilities.
James and Woody, I'm afraid you're right.
James, sorry I misunderstood. Do you think if the CA political reality was different, then Boxer would act differently? I'm not sure about that since, although there is a healthy and active Jewish population in CA, the majority are left-leaning as far as I can read the situation. Is that a fair assessment?
James, she is certainly doing that but not out of legal obligation, rather out of submission to money so she can keep her position as a senator and as a member of the foreign relations comittee. Her record on the committee is shamelessly aipac/israel, always blaming the Palestinians since the zionists can do no wrong. She also wants to bomb Iran. It seems to me, since Feinstein had lately shown some (and I repeat, some) possible signs of independence from aipac, I believe Boxer is aipac's backup to Feinstein.
Boxer is AIPAC. She claims to stand for human rights and individual freedoms. That stand is duplicitous and fraudulent as it stops with Palestinians.
Instead of focussing on Israelis visiting the US (a superfluous issue), Boxer should tell the zionist regime to allow Palestinins to move about freely within the "West Bank". That would be a good honest start to prove her human rights and individual freedoms stand.
CA voters should also recall her, reminding her this is the *** US *** Senate, not the kenesset. Is she an Israeli or Us citizen? Maybe she is an Israeli agent, Mossad maybe?? Or for the foreign ministry???????
Go Canada!!!
just, I'm now having a virtual supper with you ;-) maybe in-person one day inshallah!!
Looking forward to watching it. Hope the zios will not pressure him to have an Isareli-only perspective.... If so, he should still go to the Occupied State of Palestine since we have great food and are the ones who invented hoummous, baba ghanoush, falafel, and msakhan! And yes Paul, Al Quds has the best knafa in the world!!!!
Truly laughable, coming from the guy who defended OJ Simpson... the biggest judicial lie in the 20th century, this is not even worth a comment beyond this.
Great exchange. Thank you all for the ideas and links.
One of my takeaways is whatever Israel does, the China-Israel relations will certainly not be like the US-Israel relations. Maybe China is not out front supporting us but they will certainly not kneel in front of Israel. Time will tell....
Brown-Eyed Girl and Citizen, maybe the Chinese thinking about Arab oil is that Israel will give it to them instead since they just found boatloads of it just off of Palestine's coast!
Here's another angle to this new raproachement, link to forbes.com
While Dershowitz and Beinart spin distracting stories around all of us (who is more extreme, who loves Israel more, who is the true zionist, blah blah blah), the real stories could be happening elsewhere. Read link to tabletmag.com
Could Chester be right or is he yet another Dershowitz or Beinart, spinning us all to distraction away from what the zionist regime is really doing and cooking every day on the ground in Occupied Palestine??
It is very well known that Rajoub is an Israeli operative. These are idotic comments coming from and idiotic stooge. He is not respected in Palestine. He does not represent me nor does he most Palestinians. All he wants is to line up his pockets.
So I just say to him: shut up and go away.
American, it does get frustrating often. Some of us end up resorting to violence and are driven to desperation due to the constant humiliation, imprisoment, etc. but most Palestinians are resilient.
One concern is getting numb to the occupation (and the PA's wrong ways). The people just give up and want to live a "normal" life. That is what the zionists are banking on, what netanyahu calls "economic peace". But at the end it's about pride, dignity, freedoms, and humanity.
Thanks for your support American.
Citizen and chocopie, thank you for your support. Born and bred average Amexricans are great people with a great sense of justice and honor. We just need to get above the noise of the AIPAC machine and get our signal out there!!!!!
tokyobk, you're right, the YELLOW plates is for Israeli citizens and do not distinguish religions.
Incidentally, Palestinians in 1948 Israel were given passports that identified them as second class citizens. This practice ended some years back.
Funny sad! That's what always happens when I pass zionist checkpoints, airport or otherwise. And MW readers, don't be surprised or shocked that this type of classification is new... Palestinian cars have always had a BLUE license plate while Israelis are YELLOW. Isn't that kind of classification and labelling what happened in Germany 70 or so years ago??
Here's an anecdote... a western friend visited us in Palestine. She rented a car and, because of her western nationality and not being born in Palestine, she got a car with a YELLOW license plate. Then we went around Palestine playing tourist. We were all very excited each and every time we pass checkpoints and got waived instantly to pass. We did not get stopped not even at ONE checkpoint!!!!!! They thought we were Israelis not Palestinians. With the exception of our guest, we were all Palestinians in the car. It was exhilarating to have a small taste of freedom..... But it didn't last as we then returned him and there was no water to wash up and cook. The settlements around us used all the water for their pools, lawns, and cars...... Oh we'll, back to reality.
That's the comment I was waiting for! Oh mondonut my very dear friend, you thought I didn't know you we're trying to set a trap for me so you say this comment?!!!!!
The "right" of return of Palestinians as you refer to it in quotes is a TRUE RIGHT, recognized by all law-abiding nations in the world and is enshrined in the UN that your zionist state is a signatory to. It is undeniable that these Palestinian refugees were living in Palestine, the rightful owners of lands and property. That is until the criminal zionists came and disturbed the balance of peace between Chrisitnas, Moslems, and Jews by forcing Palestininas to leave through various criminal acts of terror and otherwise. Over 500 villages razed to the ground up to 1948. Then criminal and terrorist activities against the rest of Palestinians within 1967 border continuing to today since the 6-day war.
On what the zionist criminals did back in 1948, you may want to read this article in Haaretz......
Catastrophic thinking: Did Ben-Gurion try to rewrite history?
The file in the state archives contains clear evidence that the researchers at the time did not paint the full picture of Israel's role in creating the Palestinian refugee problem.
link to haaretz.com
If the criminal zionist regime has a different opinion, then they should release all the documents in the national archives repository.
Now back to the other part of the "return" equation since I know what you plan to come back with! So let me get to it now...
The majority of Jews in Israel today were not in Palestine at the turn of the century when peace and harmony and coexistence were the norm. They came just because they were driven by a bankrupt racist dishonest zionist ideology that stated "land with no people for people with no land"; THE BIG LIE. So you all flocked to my Palestine and continuedto do so under a fake law of "return" tgat YOU created being today's military power in Palestine using a 4,000-year old anecdotal history book as a real-estate guide to steal my land and kill my people. FACT!!!! You have absolutely zero foundation to YOUR so-called "return". FACT!!!!
So yes, Palestininas have the RIGHT of return based on ownership of the land as proven by actual legal documents from prior governments over the years. The zionists only "proof" of the right of "return" are centuries-old anecdotes with no foundational truth or plausibility.
And yes mondonut, I know what your next comment is going to be. But I will wait for it instead of cutting to it now ;-)
mondonut, Palestinians are Palestinians everywhere including Gaza and diaspora. In the new, unified, and democratic State of the Holy Land, all citizens are equal.
mondonit.... In a heartbeat! I even think a large majority would as well, little lobbying would be needed.
And yes, as Sumud said, I am Palestinian.
The BDS must continue and will accelerate. Yes, some will retract under pressure. Professor Hawking didn't. I look forward to see what the final report of the Church of Scotland will say... how far the vicious threats and bullying have worked I wonder??? But not for long.
Coupled with BDS, I call on all my compatriots in occupied Palestine, and all our Israeli and Jewish friends and supporters, to march each and every day en masse in a non-violent movement to end the illegal, criminal occupation. I also call on all of our external supporters to march each and every day in their communities and also towards all the borders from surrounding countries to force an end to occupation in a non-violent way.
We all must work towards the only viable, fair, and feasible solution.... 1S1P1V - one state, one person, one vote. Unfortunately, the zionist occupation has killed any hope of a 2SS. 1S1P1V is the only remaining option where Christians, Moslems, and Jews will live in peace, security, freedom, and peace in one state, the Democratic State of the Holy Land.
ritzl and seafoid, thanks for the additional references. I'll read and follow.
Absolutely brilliant!
Scott, thanks for this. I stopped watching Maher a long time ago as he is really racist and a zionist mouthpiece. So I'm very happy you pointed it out. You also introduced me to Greenwald.
Philip, thank you for your support.
Not quite my good friend yonah. If only the additional Jews who "arrived... with honorable intentions" in Palestine have coordinated with the indigenous Palestinian population and nicely requested refuge due to Nazi persecution. They did not. Instead, the zionist jews had a colonialist agenda. A very hostile one as captured by:
A LAND WITH NO PEOPLE FOR A PEOPLE WITH NO LAND.
They wanted to take something that is not theirs. They knew it so they spent 50 years "convincing" the powers that be through dubious methods to allow them to migrate to Palestine. The criminal, genocidal, and anti-semitic crimes of Hitler provided the perfect opportunity.
So this was clearly a belligerent and hostile act with the SOLE intention of stealing someone else's land. Their intentions were anything but "honorable". It was colonialist and racist and criminal from its inception. Read what Ben Gurion, Sharon, Begin, Meir, Dayan, Shetreet, and many others said about this and you'll see how wrong the zionists KNEW what they were doing.
On another point, thank you yonah for admitting that my land is not for israel as you eloquently state "when the Jews ARRIVED and said we WANT TO MOVE HERE in large numbers". NO regard or respect to the existing and rightful owners.
Good one! Thanks Annie.