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The War of Ideas in the Middle East
"The function of Israel is to let Jews determine how they want to live
their lives."
Australian Jews have as much freedom to determine how they want to live their lives as any other Australians. They don't need Israel for that.
Just think what a swarthy, unshaven, wild-eyed, Jew-hating, fanatical Arab terrorist could do with a pot of Yoghurt!
"You have done nothing to show that self-determination means anything if it is not in the context of state"
I am not sure that it does mean anything if it is not in the context of a state. I have grave doubts that the idea of group rights, of rights for "peoples", is coherent. So I am not trying to "substitute one people’s right for another".
But when you say "my people" I think you are referring to Jews in general. And yet you are, I think, an American. What is it that makes you regard Jews as "my people" rather than Americans?
"It ALL belongs to us every bit as it ALL belongs to them."
Who is "us"? If you mean "Jews in general", how on earth can any part of Palestine "belong to" an Australian who was born and raised in Australia, has never left Australia, and has no legal ownership of any part of Palestine.?
"You will get nowhere denying my people’s right to self-determination."
We have already shown that this idea that "peoples" have the right of self-determination (in the sense of the right to create a state) is a fantasy.
You have done nothing to show the contrary.
"This has nothing to do with Nazi racism, God forbid – where things were the other way around: a corrupt, murderous society disposed of a foreign and hinest people ...."
He thinks German Jews were foreign, and not German? If so, he agrees with Hitler.
" people who only benefitted it and balanced it with its pure virtues"
And those beneficial virtues were ...?
"Can you imagine what would have happened if the UN declared Israel as a Nation and then shortly thereafter they were attacked by surrounding Countries in an offensive manoeuvre? "
Israel declared itself as a nation in May 1948. UN recognition came in May 1949, after the war was over.
The Zionists started their offensive manoeuvre to seize more territory in 1947, even before the declaration. The Arab forces moved in defense of the Palestinian Arab population, who were being massacred and driven out of their homes.
"refugees returning to their homeland"
Some of the European Jews may have been refugees from their European homelands, but many of the Zionists were just invaders. Only those who had been born in Palestine could claim the area was their homeland.
"There I go again, confusing historical events with imagination. They are quite distinct aren’t they?"
They are indeed. I suggest you learn some history instead of relying on your imagination.
"They don’t want an independent Jewish State, anywhere."
No-one should want such a thing. The very idea of an ethnically based state is wrong. Nor does that fact that there have been a number of such states make it right.
Makes more sense than most of the other plans I hear about.
So, they've screwed up Japan, and ruined a large chunk of the Pacific. What next for their inventiveness?
"As I recall, Mohammed did more than his share of butchering Jews and ethnically cleansing them."
Bearing in mind that the stories of Muhammad and the start of Islam were probably cooked up about a hundred years after Muhammad's alleged time, could you support that by reference to the standard version of history?
"You’re kidding right? .... an enforceable individual right."
C'mon, Hostage!
Laws, rights, treaties, international agreements, duties of the US Government to its citizens, etc., etc.
What have any of these things got to do with Israel?
"gays, gypsies, handicapped, noisy priests, nuns protecting their charges, polish workers, denounced neighbors…..etc. they have all been forgotten."
Communists, too, and slavische untermenschen.
" Jews of any race are welcome in Israel."
As long as they look Jewish.
"This is an intractable problem, there are no rights or wrongs here, it’s a tragedy."
Which, on being interpreted, means "If I say who is right and who is wrong I'll never work in this town again."
'they managed to beat up an Ethiopian Jew, because he “didn’t look Jewish”.'
Well, that's his own fault, isn't it?
Some people just won't make an effort.
I thought "tolerance" just meant "everyone else should put up with what we do".
"Romney could have been replaced in any of his old jobs, for a lot less money, by any one of thousands of Japanese CEO types."
I'm sure there are quite a few in TEPCO who would welcome a change just around now.
"Can Jewish Liberals Transcend the Wiesel Doctrine?"
Is "Wiesel" the correct spelling? I thought it was "ea", not "ie".
"Think of how that’s changed, say, here in USA since WW2."
One of the insights of Buddhism is that clinging to the past and refusing to accept change is a source of suffering. The world changes. (It would be dead if it didn't.)
And not all change is bad.
The racial mixture on that Masterchef episode would have been unthinkable in the days of the White Australia Policy. (I remember those days. I prefer now.)
New comfort food can be as nice as the old comfort food, and sometimes better.
Integration produces good food.
I actually watched Masterchef last night. An Australian woman picked two other Australian women for her team. When they won, there were hugs all round.
Here are the three women.
Mindy - link to masterchef.com.au
Amina - link to masterchef.com.au
Audra - link to masterchef.com.au
Here is the episode.
link to masterchef.com.au
"There you go again, using sound reasoning!"
Sorry, eljay. I keep doing that, don't I? I find it really difficult to learn that sound reasoning has nothing to do with Israel.
"How long would the Palestinians last if the Israelis adopted the Palestinians’ position of “civilians are fair game”?"
But that is the Israeli position. The Israelis shoot children, they bomb civilians, and they use civilians (including children) as human shields.
"the Arab intransigence regarding the reality that they would have to share Palestine."
They were prepared to share Palestine by agreeing to have the foreigners live there as full equal citizens, and create a state and community in co-operation with them. They were not prepared to give part of it away to the foreigners.
Yes, I know about that stuff. And the moral of that is that the "narratives" of the participants do not actually affect the morality of the situation.
"That was me mocking Woody’s sense of time"
I recognised the mockery. The question still stands.
Do you now agree that 46 years is “a relatively short time”, or are you suggesting that 67 years isn’t “a relatively short time”?
"I guess according to you, Roha, when black people move to an all-white neighborhood, they’re invading it."
If the black people are foreigners and move in from a foreign country with the intent of taking over the neighbourhood, creating a state there, and either expelling the white inhabitants or making them into second-class residents, then, yes, they are invading it.
"Israel was not given the luxury of working towards a balance,"
The Zionists started invading Palestine in the nineteenth century. They had plenty of time to work towards a balance before 1948.
Woody: Hell, they were under military law until a relatively short time ago.
OlegR: the military law for Israeli Arab citizens ended in 1966. So unless relatively short means centuries for you , you just lied,
OlegR: I don’t think the Holocaust was a fantasy and it indeed happened such a relatively short time ago…
So do you now agree that 46 years is "a relatively short time", or are you sarcastically suggesting that 67 years isn't "a relatively short time"?
"Zionism follows it’s own narrative and it is no less potent then the
Palestinian one."
Narrative? What do "narratives" have to do with issues of morality?
"The language does not define the people."
Edward Atiyah, in the intro to his book The Arabs* gives three meanings for the term "Arab".
1. The desert nomads of the Peninsula.
2. The people of the Peninsula, regarded as something like a racial group.
3. "But in its most significant and common use to-day the word 'Arab' designates a culture group - namely, all that part of the Middle East and North Africa (in addition, of course, to Arabia itself) which was permanently Arabized by the Muslim-Arab conquests of the seventh and eighth centuries A.D. The process of Arabization was accomplished in three principal ways: (i) racial mixing by intermarriage between Arab conquerors and the peoples of the lands they conquered and settled in , (ii) the establishment of Arabic as the universal language of all the conquered countries, and (iii) the conversion of the vast majority of the population to Islam." (op.cit., P8, my emphasis)
*Penguin Books, 1958
T. E. Lawrence in Chapter 2 of Seven Pillars of Wisdom says "Being a manufactured people, their name had been changing in sense slowly year by year. Once it meant an Arabian. There was a country called Arabia; but this was nothing to the point. There was a language called Arabic; and in it lay the test." (P 33 of the 1935 impression.)
"The Jews, like all people, have every right to exercise self-determination"
No they don't.
Israeli (all Israeli legal residents, regardless of whether they are Jews or not) may have a right to self determination within their territory. But no-one knows where the limits of their territory are.
"The Roma certainly deserve a state."
Why?
"Levys markers connect them to Samoyeds "
link to puppydogweb.com
By "not known as such", I meant "not known as Scots-Irish". The term is not used in modern Britain.
But they are not known as such in Britain. The British just think of everyone across the sea as Irish.
Some are known as tribal, ignorant, belligerent, bigoted, trouble-making Northern Irish Protestants.
Some are known as tribal, ignorant, belligerent, bigoted, trouble-making IRA Catholic terrorists.
And the rest are just Irish, coming in varying degrees of tribalism, ignorance, and belligerence.
"sentences of life plus 18,000 years"
With maybe a couple of years off for good behaviour?
"a majority of the Congress will have to agree to move to a new and permanent site in Tel Aviv
But not these guys and gals.
link to infoplease.com
My heart bleeds for poor Mark Zuckerberg.
And I still don't know what Facebook is for.
So the great liberation of Jews from living under Gentile dominance, and the revival of Jewish values, Jewish culture, etc. etc., comes to this.
"It seems as if such a foreign policy majority of the electorates can be conveniently ignored – so far – without that the respective electorates would sanction their Governments or their responsible politicians/parties at next elections.'
Here in Australia both major parties have their noses stuck up the Israeli arse, so it is very difficult to sanction them. Vote out one lot, and another lot gets in. Change of governing party is based on domestic issues.
Fun to watch, and would think great fun to do.
And it makes a point without screaming or whining.
"Jews did not “go” to Palestine. They we always there."
There have always been Jews living in Palestine. But they were not European or American Jews.
" At a pont in history many were forced to leave. Now they are returning."
Those who were forced to leave have been dead for a very long time. The Europeans and Americans who went to Palestine had never been there before, so they were not returning.
Or he could just give up the whole Jewish thing and affirm his human "identity".
"Credit Suisse also hired Clinton for a speech, at a $125,000 speaking fee, also in New York."
And yet they could have had a speech from me for a mere $100,000!
Come on, Credit Suisse, Morgan Stanley, Deutsche Bank, and all you others, tkae advantage of my special offers.
I'll even negotiate bulk discounts.
One of the great values of MW is that the comments show me I am not the only sane person in the world. There are at least two others.
"ok, tell me if i am crazy or what."
I'm sure you don't need us to tell you that.
I don't think I've ever seen the Dems do anything other than funnel huge sums of money into the pockets of rich with a very slightly different set of excuses.
"I think we are seeing the rise of some Anglo Tribalism….the idea that they are now the put-upon ones in America and entitled groups and minorities are getting special treatment at their expense."
After watching the US both from outside and inside for more than 56 years, I can see how they would get that idea. The baleful influence of "identity politics", the continual emphasis on white guilt, and similar developments do not seem calculated to make the average American ex-worker (fired because of the economic disasters of recent years) feel comfortably at home in his country.
This is not to say that the idea is correct, but I do find it understandable that people would hold it.
"The danger is they do have some valid points in their complaints"
But is anyone sensible actually prepared to deal with those issues? It seems to me that the Republican party wants to exploit that discontent for electoral purposes, but will not actually do anything practical to help. They will just continue funnelling huge sums of money into the pockets of the rich.
"His answer was: ‘ We don’t want the Jews to socialise with the gentiles ..."
That's the way to win friends and influence people.
"[Ringer guy says this] Jews are always liberal, we believe in the rights of everybody, but at some point you have to like, take a stand on what's right for your people."
And who are this Americans guy's "people"? Americans, perhaps?
"And the monster, if I'm not mistaken, is Cthulju."
So you can see why I thought you were the same person.
His picture shows a green, multitentacled monster, but his style of thinking and writing is very like yours.
Creepy.
If you do not know me as RH3, then there are two eljays on the internet. This is a disturbing thought for both of us.
Irishmoses,
in a Another Forum which both eljay and I infest, it is regarded as a law that any post which corrects a grammar of spelling error will itself contain at least one such error.
@ eljay
I'm about as certainble as can be.
"which is flaunting and violating modern international laws it agreed to abide by. Ironically, Israel flaunts and violates international laws "
I don't see Israel flaunting international laws, but it certainbly flouts them often enough.
"And as Jews have always maintained a presences in the holy land, unbroken for thousands of years,"
There have been Jews in the Holy Land for thousands of years. But they were not European and American Jews.
"I am not surprised at the abundant display of ignorance on show, hey RoHa."
Not a good idea to show your ignorance of the 1930s and 40s here, gilagd.
Asking gilagd, I presume.
"The Jews were totally alone in the 1930′s."
What sort of drivel is this? In the 1930 British, Australian, Canadian, South African, NZ, etc. Jews had the forces of the British Empire behind them. US Jews had the forces of the US behind them.
"And yet it’s the Jews that had no access whatsoever to Jewish Holy
sites until 1967.
And it’s the kingdom of Jordan, an Arab and a Muslim country
that prevented this access"
As I understand it, it was only Israeli Jews that were forbidden access.
"In the 1930′s and 40′s, the world turned its back, once again, on the Jewish people."
Rubbish. We have gone over this many times. It is simply an insult to all those who fought, suffered, and died in WW2.
And "Once again? (Though it does seem that at various times before the 1930s some of the "Jewish People" turned their collective back on the world.)
"There is no rational reason that you can presented that can convince a Jew to trust an "international committee". "
Can you present a rational reason why the rest of the world should trust Zionist Jews? They have shown themselves to be liars, cheats, thieves, murderers, and (for non-Israeli Zionist Jews) traitors to their countries.
"I see that living altruistic tradition in people like Sarah Schulman, Hannah Schwarzschild, Adam Horowitz."
But maybe what they show is just natural, decent, human fellow-feeling, and nothing to do with Jewish tradition at all. After all, you get the same sort of behaviour from Gentiles.
“a triumph against British imperialism”
Against? If not for British imperialism, Israel would never have come into existence.
They often add "lessons will be learned".
But they never are.
"Norman Finkelstein, then a graduate student, is credited with refuting the Peters hoax."
I think Chomsky's support gave him the publicity he needed, since he was pretty well unknown at the time.
David and Ian Gilmour put the boot in as well. Yehoshua Porath called it a complete forgery.
"However they have chosen to spread their fingers and allow peace and reconciliation to flow through and waste away."
When did Israel ever offer peace and reconciliation to the Palestinians?
Aaaaarrrgggghhh! Yes, the "don't" should be in there.
Ghettoes are bad for the children, in that they cut them off from the greater society they live in. This is usually a disadvantage.
"I think we should go fairly easy on 1st generation immigrants, especially economic immigrants or refugees – it’s not easy for them. "
In general, yes. It varies with age and background.
" they should be free to integrate as little or as much as they want."
Don't entirely agree there. I think they should set up ghettoes.
"idiot racist white bogans"
If I am not already on record for this, I'll say now that I much prefer slim, smart immigrants to fat, stupid, bogans.
"Some people get several homelands to choose to live in, while others get practically none."
What do you mean by a homeland? As a dual citizen, I can choose to live in Britain and Australia. (Via my wife, it would not be too difficult to go to live in Japan as well.)
But my home is in Australia, so that is my homeland now.
"we can easily shed a lot of the old ethnic conflicts that belong to the ‘old world’ "
Though the Serbian and Croatian immigrants seem to find it difficult. (Particularly in the later 1960s.)
"It is much easier for our nations to be multicultural because of the whole ‘melting pot’ concept. "
There is a tension between the ‘melting pot’ concept - which I approve of - and some standard versions of multiculturalism. The melting pot involves all the immigrants integrating into a mixture.
Not too long ago I saw a video of some girls in Adelaide doing some Indonesian dancing at a festival. At least half the girls were blonde, with no sign of any Indonesian ancestry. Chicken tikka masala was invented in Glasgow, and chicken tikka pizza is a British national dish. Our PM, the Leader of the Opposition, and the openly lesbian Minister for Finance and Paper Clips (Penny Wong) are all immigrants. They all sound more Australian than I do. These are examples of melting pot integration, with the various strands coming together to form a single culture.
The multiculturalists seem to me to want a sort of apartheid, by encouraging the immigrants to cling to their old ways, remain in separate "ethnic communities" and by slapping hyphenated labels onto them. This, first and foremost, unfair to the children. (It is also racist and immoral to exempt immigrants from their duties to society on the grounds that the immigrants are a bit brown.) They seem to think that integration is somehow wrong, in spite of the long history showing that integrated societies work far more smoothly than segregated societies.
Australian is an ethnicity? Wow!
Sexier than a bagel with jam.
But the word "Jewish" doesn't make me think of her. I've never heard of her before.
"in reality, like the rest of us, she did have an ethnicity"
I don't think I've got one. I don't remember having one, but if I ever did have one, I don't know where it is now. Perhaps my wife put it away somewhere.
"yet to me she was just laura,"
And that is all she needs to be.
"RoHa, you sound like an old fart"
I plead guilty. (And you left out "boring". )
I'm sure there are sexy Jews out there, but the word "Jewish" makes me think of things like funny black hats, Mooser, bagels, and Barbara Streisland.
Of those, the ones nearest to sexy are the bagels, and they are not very.
Good with jam, though.
"i mean where's the sexy jewish setting?"
I may sound rude, again, but I just can't fit the words "sexy" and "Jewish" together. No doubt there are sexy Jews, but, for me, all the connotations of "Jewish" simply put a damper on sexiness.
Now I see the point of being Jewish.
"Any chance the “coalition of the willing” will include British, Canadian, or Australian troops in an Israeli-American lead attack/war on Iran?"
I have no doubt our arse-licking politicians will want to send Australian troops. I think the people are getting a bit fed up with Australian troops being sent to fight useless wars, so they might object.
I'm glad I was alone when I clicked on that link.
"Permit me to be pendantic."
You don't need our permission to hang round someone's neck and swing back and forth.
Zionists adopt one of the dehumanising concepts of anti-Semitism for themselves, and are willing to sacrifice their humanity to the interests of a gangster colony.
Mooser, I love your puns, your jokes, your witticisms, your scintillating quips that would make poor, dear, Oscar grind his teeth in envy, but this serious statement outdoes them all as a summary of the conceptual and actual evil of Zionism.
"Can you unbecome being a German ?"
Julia Gillard was able to unbecome being British. Had she not, she would not have become Prime Minister. (Many of us regret this outcome, but not for reasons connected with her former Britishness.)
" Do you not find such a proposal to be extremely offensive?"
What could be offensive about it?
I'd call them Arab Jews. Or just Arabs.
This guy is part of the US Government? He's allowed to vote on things?
"On what consistent logical and ethical grounds does it make sense..."
Those are the opening words of a question directed to pro-Israel groups? And you expect an answer?
Last I heard, there were more women students than men in Iranian universities, even in the traditionally "men's subjects" like engineering.
From that article:
"Many of the early Western philosophers including Plato, Aristotle, Cato, Cicero, Seneca and Plutarch were critics of usury. "
This criticism would have worked its way into the natural law ethical system the Christians adopted from the Stoics.
Thanks. Looks like another inheritance from Stoic ethics.
"what is so egregious about the Liberal Party,"
They are conservatives. link to liberal.org.au
" or, for that matter opera."
It involves singing. Great composers write wonderful music, but you can hardly hear it because there is a stage full of fat people screaming and honking at each other.
I'm going to ask this again. Am I the only one who thinks it only an appalling lack of parental feeling would lead a parent to reject his child over this sort of thing?
I cannot easily imagine what it would take for me to reject RoHa2. I would disapprove (loudly and often) if he became a Zionist, a Wahabi Muslim, a member of the Liberal Party, an opera singer, or all of those together, but I would not reject him.
I don't even reject him for his bad English grammar and poor spelling!
"*In the 12th Century the Church banned the practice of usury by Christians, saying both scripture and natural law required this ban"
It is banned under Islamic Law as well. Is this yet another case of the Church learning from the Muslims?
So these identity things are thought of as a sort of unchanging Aristotelian essence?
What sort of parents would reject their children for such a thing?
"Over 1.5 billion people in the world practice Islam"
And some of them are getting pretty good at it.
Nose jobs are big business in Iran.
Google "Iran nose job"
link to dailymail.co.uk
I think several of us know that, but apparently the guy who made the slide is a little less clear on the concept.
'Obama was only the latest president to fall under the influence of Islamic extremists. “The level of penetration in the last three administrations is deep,”'
Ahhh! That explains why they have made war on Iraq and Afghanistan. That explains why they have provided so much aid to Israel. That explains why they have supported Israel in the UN. That explains why Israeli military people are in the Pentagon. It's all part of a cunning plan fomented by the Islamic extremists.
My first thought was "What a ferocious looking Sikh!"
"Israel, the single Jewish country on this planet, will no longer exist. Now that is just not right, and you know it."
I don't know it at all! Why is it not right for a Jewish country to cease to exist? It seems to me that it would be a good thing for it to be replaced by a state which gave equal rights to all its citizens.
"Besides, isn’t this helping to expose a problem in our homeland?"
Errr - which homeland is that? The one you were born in, raised in, went to school in, got married in, had your children in, and where you live now, or the real homeland to which you have never been but have some sort of vague cultural connection?