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University of Houston revived SDS. And Palestine is a core issue with our chapter.
Is there an old Jewish cemetery in the West Bank? They should propose to build a museum called "Museum of Love and Neighborly Relations."
Ewww... bad taste, I must say.
Every mother thinks his son is handsome, can't fault Saddam's mother for thinking the same.
Now, Obama on the other hand...is hot. The name fits. :)
Damn, full of anger and envy, are you? Showed right through your post. Eat your heart out. :) Shalom.
Hussein isn't a curse word. People don't realize it but they are complimenting Obama--it means "handsome."
I'm probably the only person who hasn't seen Avatar because I hate to pay $15 bucks for a movie (on some stuff, i'm really cheap) and rather see it a couples of months later at the dollar theater.
but I have to see it now!
I would have exploded half way through his talk. I can't take this shit anymore without wanting to pull out someones hair. I am sick and tired of it all and I cannot find the comfort and hope that I used to upon coming to Mondoweiss. I thought maybe things were changing. They are not.
Day in, day out, its the same story.
Bronner talks so confidently- even though he speaks lies- because he belongs to a people of who have conquered. And you know personally, my spirit may have just been conquered too--I don't know. I feel defeated. It's hard to accept and its painful beyond words.
Oh I'm sure my defeated spirit and my pathetic feelings are music to Zionists ears. Enjoy it Julian, enjoy it Witty, enjoy it Wondering Jew.
Witty rages at Phil. But I'm beyond that point. I have no one to rage at. And that's how hundreds and thousands of Palestinians feel. Oh God, what a pathetic existence.
Speaking of ei, Ali Abunimah is coming to University of Houston:
Friday, February 19, 2010
Time: 11:00am - 1:00pm
Location: Atlantic Room - UC Underground
And then again,
Friday, February 19, 2010
Time: 6:45pm - 8:30pm
Location: Hilton Garden Inn
Street: 3201 Sage Rd.
City/Town: Houston, TX
I was wondering is there a word in Hebrew or Yiddish that describes a person who benefits and lives in one country but pledges allegiance to another? What about one that joins another army?
Just wondering after reading about what is "Moser."
Oh no...what about the Holocaust? It was the greatest crime on earth. Why isn't anybody talking about the Holocaust?
you got the description of Barak quite right.
We aren't looking for perfection from Israel.
Israel is WRONG. It was wrongly created and it is WRONG now to continue the occupation. WRONG to continue the siege of Gaza. WRONG to kill kids and WRONG for your soldiers to deny passage to pregnant women and sick children and students we just want an education. Israel is WRONG on so many levels....
i can see you share the same kind of political (non) sense with our congress and senate.
a baby killer is a baby killer, even if (gasp) it be the damn president himself. and should be called just that.
WJ
have the cometary moved? If moving cemeteries is acceptable in Jewish philosophy then perhaps one of the Jewish cemeteries can be moved to accommodate the damn museum.
That is a powerful image. A beautiful one.
Shingo,
Very helpful piece of information. Thanks.
Answer that, Witty?
Witty,
I see you are still around.
I don't see much of this trumpeted humanism of yours when it comes to cheering for and defending Israel.
We all know perfectly well where your loyalties lie. We have deduced that from your posts many, many times. You are not fooling us, so try again and with a better answer this time. And make it honest, too.
Yeah Tree,
Since you don't have a holocaust story to tell, you aren't as important, and hence your criticism is irrelevant. You may learn about THE Holocaust but you may not question it or any of the lying survivors. Especially if they hunted Nazis. So shut-up, will you? wondering jew and his tribe have a monopoly over suffering.
WJ wrote: "Emotionally for me, attacking him is a form of attacking all survivors."
This is the type of mentality Jews and Israelis have to let go of. Questioning the integrity of a Jewish person is not questioning the integrity of all Jewish persons. Questioning the history of the Holocaust Industry is not questioning the entire modern-day history of the Jewish people.
By questioning the Occupation, people are not requesting Israel be "wiped off the face of the earth." Or the map.
Yeah, Phil shouldn't publish this because it can be very embarrassing to some Jews and Zionists.
The fact that the Nazi holocaust is one of the reasons given for justification of creating Israel on Palestinian might have something to do with publishing this? So if people can see that the founding fathers of the Nazi holocaust myth were liars and crooks, then maybe they will go down the road of questioning other things too. But that is probably expecting too much.
Don't cry for them. They are doing well on stolen land. Israel compensated them handsomely.
But if you aren't satisfied, I have a suggestion. Why not form a group and sue the Arabs and win some oil money and build a museum about Jews being driven from Arab lands. You should contact Eli Wiesel on how to do that.
Aref,
Thanks. I knew you would consent so I already posted it to my facebook status.
I like that very much. Can I quote you on it? Its going on my facebook status.
Believe it or not Pakistan played a big role in Black September.
I believe Musharaf had a pretty active role in it too, as a young soldier. As far as I remember reading, he seemed quite proud of it too.
Too bad. I liked it. It summed up my feelings.
I thought I was the only one!
Someone deleted it? I didn't even know you were banned. ( I banned myself from news for a while and political websites). I can't imagine you saying something over the top to get banned.
Cliff,
I appreciate your insightful comment.
I take months long break from news about Palestine and come back to find the situation even worse. How depressing.
I would also like to send a gift. Pls let us know of the hospital.
I have a little girl around her age.
They went peacefullt because they were helpless. Had they the means of fighting back they would surely have done so. They did in Warsaw, didn't they?
Besides, aren't you comparing apples and oranges?
Scanning the comments of Haaretz, people were more worried about anti-semitism than the immorality of it.
If people in Europe can go to jail for holocaust denial then this rAbbi should go to jail for incitement to hate. But I suppose being a jew in israel comes with certain privalages
Why do I feel guilty? Ashamed, yes. But why do I feel guilty?
What a tragedy. A lone gunmans actions will most certainly affect many, many lives. There's the human toll, loss of life, and then there will be the political fall out.
True.
But, money still talks. And while what you say makes sense, at the same time, black aren't really organized either.
Maybe the Arabs should take a clue from their Jewish brthren and start buying the US Congress with more money. I *know* lots of 'em got money.
That's pathetic. I am very embarassed--only $70K?
Over two years ago, I bought a few platic containers for starting seeds at the dollar store. I never got around to using them. Two weeks back, I turned one over to make holes in it for drainage and a "made in Israel" label stared back at me. Of course I was disgusted. But too late for returns.
Who would have thought they made stuff for the dollar store?
Check those labels people. Don't buy shit that's made in Israel if you can help it.
You do realize your postings are a bit nutty?
Check out the weekly standard. they mention some of our favorite bloggers, including Phil. the standard attacked and smeared everyone, with the exception of Phil.
The Standard smeared blogger GazaMom, deriding her because she wears hijab.
Leaving aside the I/P conflict for a moment, I've been thinking why would a Jew find a hijab wearing women offensive? In certain NY areas and in Israel, I know Jewish women dress very dinstinctly and a few also cover their hair by different means. Muslims could care less.
How come I don't see those Jewish women in public life? Do the criticizers of hijab ever attack those women and question their oppression and lack of visibility in the public sphere?
Congradulations to both of you. I will let you and other mondoweiss readers bask in this new development, and unlike Witty I won't attempt to dim the spotlight by putting a link to another article.
Most of us want you two to go far!
Texas isn't that bad. Its actually very nice here.
Every person, regardless of their ethnicity, is good enough to become a muslim or a christian. No new father assigned to them, but to be a jew one is assigned a new father. Why?
Wondering Jew,
You were giving Abraham as one of the proofs of the jews being a people, and so when one becomes a Jew he is given Abraham as their father. Being the spiritual father of monotheism and being the ancestor of two peoples are two very different things.
A converted jew is a Jew in religion, he does not become part of a nation in the physical sense. He does not change his ethnicity.
Sorry, but you can't have your cake and eat it too.
When someone becomes muslim, he is not given a new father--Mohammed or Abraham. He is the son of the person who conceived him. He just has a new religion.
When a person converts and becomes a jew why is he given a new "father?" Abraham wasn't a Jew. He's the spiritual father of all monotheistic faiths. Abraham was the ancestar of two peoples, one of them Arabs, let's not forget that.
When someone convets to Islam, he's adopting a new religion, not abandoningg his identitiy to any ethnic group he may belong to, or nation, or whatever.
This symbolical act of giving a new father seems racist.
I can't sleep. I've reead this 10 times today. I'm tired but I can't sleep. I am livid at the world. I am so angry.
Witty, you coward. Where are you? Have you looked at her uncles eyes? Are you going to tell him zionisim is good? That all this happened to his neice because israel had to flex its muscle to keep reminding Gazans that their life is controlled by the state with the most moral army in the world?
Her uncles eyes look so pleading. And defeated. I feel guily looking at that picture because there's nothing I can do.
My daughter hurt her finger in the doorway today. When I saw her break out in a sweat from the pain-and her screams-I wished my finger would have gotten crushed in the doorway. I can't imagine how I would feel if she went through what this little child is suffering.
I want to be a witness to justice, too.
When?
Everyones respponse was emotional and sympathetic, even Mooser's in his own way, but all Witty could do was write a one-liner: you were a witness to suffering.
Cold, calculated response to a little childs suffering. But when it comes to fucking Sderot or some other shitty place in Israel and Palestinian violence, watch how emotional he gets.
I don't know why I adressed this to postherd. Probavly because everytime I reas the name "psychopathic god" I cringe. But....
Postherd,
I don't have dual citizenship, but I do have a Pakistani ID card that exempts me from getting a visa to visit and I don't have to travel with my passport. Its conveniant. Getting it made was a little rought though. I had to produce my parents original birth certificates, and it took them a while to authenticate them.
Anyway, this little ID card lists my address in the US and my "permanent" address in pAkistan as well. It also says I can vote unhidered in any elections in Pakistan and that I'm not required to produce any other proof.
I haven't voted. I almost did once, though. I felt I was betraying my alliegence as a citizen to the US. So I left before casting my vote.
May she go in peace. I will miss her writing too. I didn't know her but I'm truly sad.
Witty's most absurd statement to date yet, is calling the PA the government of Palestine.
How can there be a government when there is no state?
The PA is an institution, an authority, (Palestinian Authority), through which the aspirations of the people could be voiced in a strategic manner to achieve their national goals.
That does not make it a government.
Sounds like Witty.
Wow. I'm finding myself in agreement with you.
I Instantly burst into tears. this is the result of Zionisim. This is why I am opposed to it. Zionisim may have been a positive force in many respects for the Jews, but in every way, it has wrecked havoc on Palestinians.
Zionism is not universal, it is too restricted, egotistical and inward looking.
As sad as the story is, I am so delighted that the soul of the Palestinians maybe occupied, too, to borrow Phil's recent headline, but the spirit of the Palestinians is very much alive.
Always, in solidarity, Palestine. Always.
Witty, who is always criticizing Phil, is telling Phil that he's always critical or too critical.
You are worse than a nagging mother.
Probably, but not likely.
Thoase fools are working for their own ego.
What a beautiful, inspiring story. (Moved me to tears)
Today we have a teach-in about the Afghanistan war at University of Houston. I wasn't going. Now I will.
Sorry, still typing from my phone. I meant to say that many ppl who left pakistan are usually people who didn't have it bad there. And after oming here, they have managed enrich themselves in both countries, but they would never leave, and are not fearful to the point that they have bags packed.
Some people have bags packed? Wow. How come Muslims don't have bags packed? If anybody should be scared in America, it should be Muslims, in my opinion, and despite the hate in media and the increasing scrutiny in our lives by the FBI, ICE, etc, we are happy and pretty much content.
I don't know anyone who wants to leave. And it has nothing to do with economics either, for most, anyway. I don't know about other countries, but Pakistanis that manage to do so are middle and upper class people. Even the super rich leave.
Sure, they invest their money back home and make additional income, and avoid some taxes (increasingly getting harder to do), they don't plan on leaving.
Phil,
I thought it was anti-semitic to say things like that? I am really confused about what is acceptable and what's not.
If it weren't for Palestine, israel and Jews probably wouldn't have been on my radar screen. I thought of them as a historic people, who wandering the desert, Moses and the law--and a very interesting story to tell Sunday school kids.
I understand the Israel/Palestine conflict. I don't understand half of what's discussed on this site about anti-semitisim. But from what I have been paying attention to, seems like you are posting something that can be called an anti-semitic post.
Of course he's he mayor of everyone--everyone who is Jewish.
But its probably anti-Jewish, anti-Zionist, and anti-American to point that out. Isn't he also blind? then it's probably, anti-blind, too.
Oh well. Only in America.
My mother is crazy, too. She does not hoard. (I'm the hoarder). She gets bored with her material things too fast and chunks them in the trash or recycles them, but mostly just throws it away. I've told her many times to stop polluting the world on a regular interval basis.
I see new vases every month. She changes the carpet every three years. She bought a leather sofa a year ago and is complaining about it already.
But, because my mom is such a spender, she's also a giver. She has the biggest charitable heart that I know of.
What a monster.
Thank you, Bruce, Dan and Adam.
Thank youu, Phil.
There's an expletive I want to throw at you Witty. But I its Ramadan.
I am reading a book by Israeli Doron Mendels, his subtitle to book "jewish and Christian Ethnicity in Ancient Palestine."
This is the antiquity period.
You are such a hypocrite. You are despicable.
Witty,
You speak of morality? Huh! Everyone here knows your commitment to humanism which doesn't extend far from your sense of what's good for the jews is always right and everyone else is just fodder. That pretty well sums it up. So what if you say it in a much "nicer" way? The end result of your calls for "mutual humanization" leaves the Palestinians at the short end of the stick.
If condemning your rabbid zionist co-religionists once suffices then the same apllies to everyone else. Mopst ppl on here do not condone hatred for the ;ews and have said so. Yet, again and again you like to take people to task for any anti-semitic comment, real or imagined and want us to condemnit.
Its also frustrating typing posts from my phone. I see some mistakes. I hope ppl will understand what I meant
What does goy mean? And why is that anti-semitic? For all the accusations that. >uslims get for being anti-semitic, most of us are pretty clueless as to some of the words that are used, etc
My mom always told us to pick up pennies or change if its on the ground because it has Gods name on it. I spotted a penny outside our office building and picked it up and put it in my purse. My friend was watching me with amusement. He said when he was little (he's not my generation) the kids used to throw pennies at the Jewish kids. It was a very humiliating experience for him.
"Why did they throw pennies?" I asked. And he said kind of annoyed "because they were anti-semitic"
I ended our conversation with an "oh!" Went home and googled "throw pennies at jews" and came up with a bunch of stuff and I understood.
Last time I googled "what's philosemitisim" and ran across quite a clearly racist website.
My computers down and I've been surefing the net with my phone, which isn't that fun and juat frustrating to navigate. Id appreciate it if someone can give me a quick overview og the words goy and gentile and why do ppl find its use offensive.
Witty, you said that Citizen attacked you and that my response to you wasn't appropriate. But how many times have you ever come to anyone else defense when rabbis >uslim hatters or arab haters come on here and attack us? You never chastise those that love Israel blindly.
I know where Phil stands. I know what Mooser thinks of the issues dealt with on this blog. I know where the racists stand that come to this site, some of them steeped in the school of hasbara. Does anyone know what the hell Witty is talking about most of the time?
There was a time when I actually liked Witty. But the more I stayed on this site, I realized what a fake he is. I have a Jewish friend who is pretty pro-zIonist. But I can still disagreee with him, get into verbal fights with him, even manage to have a civil discourse most of the time. And still keep our friendship intact. Its not wittys viewpoints, its his underhanded way of going about and questioning Phil's journalistic integrity, and his sleazy attempts at questioning any positive development about anything, and then watch him turn around a month later and advocate for the same position which he previously attacked.
Witty is like Dershowitz. I can't stand them both.
Dan Kelly, you do have a valid points.
Witty,
You are a proven liar. You are a farce. I wish you would go away. You are conniving and when you write, I am reminded of the word machavellian.
I suggest a boycott of Witty. I have been doing pretty good ignorning him with few exceptions. Let's starve him by not replying to him and one day he will stop coming around.
V..., those rallies and protests are so kumbaya that it gets embarassing and cheesy quite often. I don't know what Witty is talking about. And thanks for the laugh re Witty going to peace demonstrations, etc
Witty,
Where did you see skinheads at Palestinian rallies? SKinheads like only themselves and increeasingly israel. Kid yourself not.
Mooser, I have always wondered the same.
Are mosr israeli refusenicks girls? If so, I wouldn't be surprised. Women tend to abhor killing more than men. Good for these brave youths. Their hearts haven't been diseased.
You sound like a robot.
Finally. A great mind who's not nerdy looking.
Thing is Witty, pAlestinians don't believe in the Torah. Our God doesn't tell us to take others ppls land cuz he promised it to us. So you and your zionist kind need to take it up with God.
Leave the Palestinians and their land alone. Get out and stop killing.
To avoid confusion, id rather die than be an israeli.
I would rather die.
Boy have I run across quite a few Israelis at the mall. I Was once suckerd into buying an iron that was supposed to do wonders. Being a businessmans daughter I did get him to lower the price considerably. The iron never worked.
Just a couple of weeks ago, I was stopped by another israeli in the mall selling some kind of facial cream. He said $80 and i said $15. His jaw dropped. He said just because he liked my answer he was going to give it to me for 20. I asked him if he was israeli. He lied and said he was a christian from serbia. Anyway, never did buy the product and he got mad at me for not being a sucker. An american salesperson would have smiled and said something like "maybe next time"
Actually what it means is that it woul kill Witty to see pAlestinians living in a single state along with Jews because then that would mean the painful reality of Palestinians demanding equal right as citizens.
Before israel declared itself a state, they had bought 6% of the land from mainly absentee owners. Then the resst they just took as they killed and plundered. This is in a nutshell. I can go home and look at the book I just finished reading and give you a little more detail.
May I suggest two books? ]laming the victims, edited by esward said and christopher hitchens. And Radicals, Rabbis, and Peacemakers by Seth Farber.
Irshad Manji's sexual preferance is her own business. But she is a sell out to Israeli interests and that's why I don't like her.
Its not islam that need reforming. Rehmat is correct. Its mUslims who need to go through reformation. Things can be changed through other means instead of armed jihad. So far ppl claiming to do jihad have only brought more sorrow to their people. Time to think in other ways.
Phil,
You need to do more of these types of story telling. I enjoy it very much.
There's also a pattern of jews gathering emasse demanding wars. The zionists got together and decided to wipe out the palestinians. The necons shrill voices dragged us to iraq. Now iran. This is a fact.
If Jeff is afraid it will be blamed on "the Jews" then "the Jews" need to hold their leaders accountable. 300 Jewish leaders converged together to advocate for sanctions? Crap that is some scary shit.
Sanctions on Israel now!
I'm sure they are worried about the Arab birth rate, but I suspect they are more worried about maintaining the white race's genes as pure. They don't want to see mixed marraiges with Jews either. They will agree that Jews are the chosen ones but its white cHristians who will be saved in the end. (Unless the Jews convert)
Let Pollard rot till his lifes end in jail. The slimeball is getting off easy in there. Does anyone recall the Jewish kid who killed his neighbor and then fled to israel to avoid justice in America? Israel refused to give him up. He's been on vacation ever since. How typical.
I have so many books on I/P issue that my mom thinks its strange. I think I need to give it a rest for now and dive into other topics for a while. Right now I'm reading The Rise abd Fall of Jewish Nationalism by Doron Mendels. Its about ancient Palestine. Pretty interesting but a bit difficult for me to grasp the historical setting even with the dates given... anyway, read a few reviews on Maxs book and will purchase it but will wait to read it.
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Rehmat,
Why don't you enlighten us all on what an Islamic state is like? ANd what do you mean that the Abrahamic religions are revolutioanry movements?
Allah's Political domain? Never thought of God as a politician. Seems like a sacriligous to me.
beautiful. wish I was there right now.
Thank you.
When I listed to George Galloway's speech he said that Pastors for Peace would take care of the finance side for them. There were nods of approval and applause when he said that. A girl sitting next to me said that they are really good at doing that.
So then what happened?
"I personally resent implications from Phil and his audience,..."
Witty, I resent your presence on this site.
WTF? What the hell does Iran have to do with this?
You coniving piece of.....
ugh. you really, really are disgusting.
Nice try changing the subject. Your religious nuts hate gays as much as any other religion's nuts. They are mimicing only their religious beliefs and not anyone else's.
The question was will Israel demolish these killer's homes? Answer that Witty.
Thank you for sharing it with us.
There are times when I cannot share my feelings, (or jokes), with my people from my community because it would be offensive to them or they just wouldn't get it.
Gates sees anti-semitism everywhere but he didn't see this: link to field-negro.blogspot.com
He is what Malcolm X would called a house negro. He knows how to kiss ass to get ahead.
"Zonszein makes a great point. Even if these organizations are just supporting humanitarian needs in the settlements they are still helping them to grow and thrive, and thus helping colonize the West Bank. "
Isn't this exactly the kind of reasoning that was used to indict Sami al-Arian in Dallas, Texas?
The Quran repeatedly asks the rabbis not to sell God's verses for a miserly price. Seems to me the rabbis invented the so-called law of Moses where you can't tell on another Jew even if he's doing evil work. God's justice is universal, if we are to believe that He is a universal God, and not a tribal one.