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  • From Occupation to 'Occupy': The Israelification of American domestic security
    • EXCLUSIVE: Funders Behind NYPD’s Mysterious Private ‘Counter-Terrorism’ Foundation

      Tagging onto this story -- Bloomberg's recent announcement:

      Bloomberg: I have my own army in the NYPD, which is the seventh biggest army in the world. I have my own State Department, much to Foggy Bottom’s annoyance. We have the United Nations in New York, and so we have an entree into the diplomatic world that Washington does not have,” Mayor Bloomberg said.

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      I wouldn't put it past him to try and run for President in the future.

  • Marcus warns, US Jews could abandon Israel over treatment of women (ixnay about alestiniansPay)
    • Hostage: So your question is moot Yes, you're right!

      Also, this guy is supposed to oversee the SEC -- which is another area -- which I find very interesting -- where often my posts seem to go off into the internet ether to cool off :)

    • the link: More Jews in Congress than ever before (11/08/06)
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      Not sure how long the link will be up.

    • MRW: But the point is that Ackerman, a US elected official, also holds a post within one of the Zionist Congress’ voting US member groups ..."

      My understanding is that Ackerman operates under the umbrella of the World Jewish Congress and not the The World Zionist Organization [WZO]? Also, even if he is a 'regular[?]' member of the B’nai B’rith -- they only have limited voting rights.

      This is why I wanted to understand the 'Affiliate' relationship between the the World Zionist Organization [WZO] and the World Jewish Congress [WJC]?

      Noting, some of the leadership under the WJC have been active members in the WZO in the past. e.g. Evelyn Sommer - WJC Chair, North American Jewish Congress
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    • -- More Jews in Congress than ever before
      by Adinah Greene :

      JPost: "...The ICJP was established in 2002 as part of the World Jewish Congress to build a network for government officials with their counterparts all over the world. "The goal is to put together parliamentarians from all over the world in order for them to cooperate with one another and promote Jewish issues/AGENDAS (my emphasis) in their respective countries," said Arik Puder, the spokesman for ICJP Israel..."

      From my notes Knesset members: MK Colette Avital, and MK Yuli Edelstein were involved.

    • "...critical of the Likudniks from time to time..."

      Being critical of the Likudniks doesn't do much for me -- It's Ackermans actions and more importantly votes that count at the end of the day. Do you think he will vote for war for Israel that will (for sure) kill American kids stuck out in the ME?

    • I'm not sure we will find elected officials in the WZO? -- I could be wrong -- but I don't it's going to be easy for us to connect the dots -- unless Hostage can lay out the organizational chart in front of us. :)

      What I did find were the Mercaz delegates for the 36th World Zionist Congress:

      -- Mercaz Takes Its Place At Zionist Congress
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      I noticed the name Rabbi Gerald Skolnik (Forest Hills, NY) as part of the delegation. Although, he's not an elected official he does have the privilege of being in front of a number of politically charged constituents, as well as being able to get close and personal to the President, and often writes in the Jewish Week

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      Also, interestingly J-Street was there:

      "....Vice President of Policy and Strategy at J Street and a veteran of the Israeli army, found myself chairing the Settlement Committee at the World Zionist Congress?..."

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    • Ackerman ....He is serving two governments in an official capacity.

      Yes. Right in front of us.

    • Not a J-Street Progressive Zionist -- that's for sure.

      Ackerman Blasts J-Street support for UN Condemnation of Israel
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      Also, Nathan Guttman a reporter from the Jewish Forward says when he covered just 'one' subcommittee foreign affairs hearing:

      "…In just one session, the Democratic-led subcommittee [Ackerman!] made it clear that at least on issues regarding the Palestinian conflict, it stands to the right of the Bush administration…"

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    • OK then scrub this entry as I can't find a definite working link -- I can only remember the names. I'm sure Shelley Berkley name came up too.

    • "Gary Ackerman is a Green Line or progressive Zionist.

      Progressive Zionist eh! This is the Ackerman that tells us regarding the consequences of settlement expansion:

      Ackerman (May 2009): "...settlement expansion in return for dismantling illegal outposts, a position supported by the influential chairman of a House subcommittee. “Internal growth is not an obstacle — it is life,” said the congressman, Gary Ackerman (D-L.I.), chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on the Middle East and South Asia.

      “There is no moral equivalence between settlements and terrorist activity,” he said by phone shortly after leaving a 90-minute meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Tel Aviv. Bibi mentioned settlements,” Ackerman continued, using Netanyahu’s nickname. “He pointed out that unlike previous administrations that said they would not build them but built them, he is not building new settlements. But he has a position that you cannot stop people on the issue of internal growth.”

      Ackerman said he subscribed to the position of a Kadima Knesset member, Otniel Schneller, who was quoted as saying: “I will not lend a hand to a dictate preventing my daughters from giving birth to my grandchildren.”

      Ackerman’s comments came the same day Dan Meridor, Israel’s minister of Intelligence Agencies, flew to London to meet George Mitchell, America’s special Middle East envoy. He was sent to convince him that “natural growth” should be permitted in the major settlement blocs in return for the dismantling of illegal West Bank outposts.

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      Sorry, from the sounds of things Ackerman works for Israel, to make sure Obama doesn't get in the way of both expanding and now the blatant in Obama's face building of new settlements.

      Also, Ackerman is a apparently a member of B'nai B'rith
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    • Adam Curtis' blog is another site I often visit. I love what he digs up! Like his post on Murdoch:

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    • "...It is for this reason that 55 Jewish parliamentarians from 22 countries have assembled in Jerusalem under the auspices of the World Jewish Congress.

      For this year's International Council of Jewish Parliamentarians conference both Henry Waxman and Nita Lowey went along with Ackerman.

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      Also, back in 2005 these guys were on the first ICJP Steering Committee:

      "...U.S. Senators Barbara Boxer, Norm Coleman, Dianne Feinstein, Frank Lautenberg, Joseph Lieberman and Carl Levin, and with Members of Congress Gary Ackerman, Howard Berman, Susan Davis, Eliot Engel, Barney Frank, Tom Lantos, Nita Lowey, Jerrold Nadler, Jan Schakowsky, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Allyson Schwartz, and Henry Waxman..."
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      Unfortunatley, the original ICJP source page has disappeared, but I remember all those names. Other Jewish Parliamentarians from around the world were also there.

    • Also, it is just a coincidence that the Jewish Federations of North America has just decided to restructure it's giving program? Maybe wanting more autonomy from the Jewish Agency, and the Israel-based Zionist (embarrassing) empire? I dunno - but there seems to be some major restructuring (central planning process?) going on?

      JTA: At GA, new federation plan for overseas seen as blow to Jewish Agency

      "After a decades-long partnership that saw the Jewish Agency for Israel serve as the official, exclusive Zionist arm of North America’s Jewish community federations, the federation system is getting ready to date other partners..."
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      JTA: In restructuring, key Canadian Jewish officials are let go June 26, 2011
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    • PW: ive asked hostage, mrw, thanks
      hostage, comply

      Absolutely- yes please!

      So, for example, what is the connection between the
      The World Zionist Organization [WZO] and the World Jewish Congress [WJC]?

      I did notice that the WJC is calling the WZO a WJC Affiliate" (Related Bodies). But what's their relationship in terms of Jewish governance around the world?

      WJC Affiliates (from WJC home page): Anti-Defamation League, B'nai B'rith International, Conference of European Rabbis, Hillel, International Council of Jewish Women, International Jewish Committee on Inter-Religious Consultations, Women's International Zionist Organization, World Union of Jewish Students, World Zionist Organization/Jewish Agency for Israel

      However, I found it very strange that the International Council of Jewish Parliamentarians [ICJP] was NOT on the list? Our very own Gary Ackerman on the US foreign affairs committee being a member.

      "The ICJP operates in cooperation with the Knesset, the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the World Jewish Congress."

      Also noting that the WJC has admitted in news releases that the ICJP is "a partner organization of the World Jewish Congress".

  • Roger Cohen says our foreign policy has been 'Likudized'
    • When I read your comment the first thought that came into my mind was "Inverted Totalitarianism." Chris Hedges first introduced me to the term, (just google CH & IT), he also references back to Sheldon Wolin. It's impossible not to see the signs.

      Just one of many articles on the subject:

      Democracy in America Is a Useful Fiction, by Chris Hedges
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      Sheldon Wolin: "...Bear in mind that a ruthless, ideologically driven party with a mass base was a crucial element in all of the twentieth-century regimes seeking total power..." link to

      The base in my mind is the militarist nationalist Republicans who are in lockstep with the American Zionist Likudniks -- whether they both realize it or not. Also,

      Richard Dreyfus [The Nation - Nov '10]: "..Asked about Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, [Martin] Indyk said, "He is much more of a Republican than a Likudnik," meaning that Netanyahu closely identifies with the GOP and he has good relations with Republicans in Congress. Noting that Netanyahu recently stepped up his rhetoric calling for a military attack on Iran, Indyk suggested that Netanyahu was sending an unsubtle signal to Republicans to start talking up the issue.

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      Netanyahu who seems to be driving this juggernaut to hell has the Republicans in his pocket as well as the American Zionist Likudniks, many of whom we know have influencial/powerful positions within the Democratic Party (e.g. committee members on foreign affairs -- major financiers of the party, Likud spokespoke person - Chuck Schumer, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, Steve Israel etc.), as well as holding important positions within the Administration -- ok Ross might have left, but definitely within the State Dept, and possibly even within the DOD. The number joint military maneuvers we do with these guys is unheard of when you compare with other States military alliances. It's not looking good!

  • Why is Charlie Rose hugging Seth Klarman?
    • So LeaNder -- are these books supposed to be the Jewish equivalent of the Tim LaHaye end of days books? I am supposed to be impressed with this guy who was successful in actually getting his paranoia published?

    • I remember Mike Malloy talking about all those 'Democratic' big donors (I'm sure some of them having a "Foundations" or two) not wanting to give a dime to get "Progressive Radio" off the ground. Wake up to the real world eh@!

    • Seth Klarman can't understand why money can't buy him EVERYTHING.

      Money does not give him the right to MAKE people and governments accept the ethnic cleansing of a people who have done us no harm, so a supposedly special tribe can decide at a whim to live in their place. He talks of a Jewish State seemingly oblivious of the fact there are still Palestinians, human beings living there. How utterly disgusting is that. Hatred? No, I would say people are more concerned with how many sociopaths are out there.

    • Oh and - Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano -- was at the AIPAC Scottsdale, AZ event as well! Just to drum home the message.

      And Prof. Finkelstein according to Max Blumenthal says that "neocons had "no role" in taking US to Iraq. Astounding" It's more than astounding -- esp. when you read what goes on at these AIPAC and US government 'Summits'.

    • Why why on earth must you immediately jump and think of "violence"? Anyway, the Jewish community has the Department of Homeland Security well and truly in their pocket - somehow I don't think we will be seeing any Jews being locked away in the near future. However, I have a sneaky suspicion that the ADL wouldn't mind pushing legislation to be able to lock people away for even daring to be critical of Israel "de-legitimizing Israel" will have a whole new meaning!

      BTW at that AIPAC Scottsdale, Arizona committee meeting -- our very own Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO) was there.

      "...Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO), chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Subcommittee on Contracting Oversight and member of the Armed Services Committee, spoke to Summit delegates about the importance of the U.S.-Israel relationship. “The relationship between the United States and Israel is crucial to our national security and the future of our world,” she said. “Protecting and advancing that relationship [US-Israel], including ensuring the safety and security of Israel, must remain the highest priority for our nation.”

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      Oh yeah, the I-Lobby has the Dept of Homeland Security well and truly stitched up.

    • Oh, how the 1% live. Well, that was an eye-opener. 10% -- I just can't get over it.

    • Interesting. Yes, they've kinda shot themselves in the foot. With the dumbing down of the American public (at lot of the time by Zionists -- hell, they even have a nation-wide/world-wide industry involved in it), e.g with the constant reinforcement of Israel being the *Jewish* State in the MSM, and Rabbis making sure they are turfing out newbie Rabbis with a "Zionist mindset" -- I could see it definitely biting them in the butt at some point.

    • 'It takes money to make money'. Have you any links to this 10% rule? Actually, I would be very interested to read any exposé articles on these types of Foundations? ONLY 10% that's amazing!

  • Now they care
    • PW: "...Joe Klein has done some really great work over the years.."

      Yeah, but all I see in Joe's angst is a flashing red light: of the 'guaranteed Zionist reflex mechanism' -- that will always operate when needed.

      Joe Klein: "For those of us who feel strongly about the need for Israel to exist–especially those of us who love the place, warts and all [!!!]–this incident is yet another reason to fear for Israel’s future..."

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      Note: These guys only go so far and then 'circle the wagons' time and time, and time again. Two steps forward, and then two steps back. We just don't have the time for this hand-winging. Israel and the American Zionists blew it -- but they won't accept defeat.

  • Ann Lewis and Bill Kristol do 'playful banter' at AIPAC summit
    • Thanks John h! -- that was weird. :)

    • I really do think Prof. Finkelstein is a decent person - and v. knowledgable. But this stuff he's coming out with now -- it makes him look like (sorry to be blunt) he's living in fairy land. I'm just a little shocked is all.

      Here's a recent exchange with John Mearsheimer. I don't know where to start -- just read it.

      Pathbreaking scholars Norman Finkelstein and John Mearsheimer speak out about the precarious future of the Jewish state. Greater Israel-or Peace?
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    • "...According to Max Blumenthal, Finkelstein said the “jewish neo-cons” had “no role” in taking the country to Iraq….. ive heard him brush aside questions of “dual loyalty” in regard to jewish neo-cons, but specifically having “no role” in the country attacking Iraq? That’s nuts..."

      Wow! If true -- (I haven't listened)-- I never put him down as one of those that 'circle the wagons'? I mean, does this mean he is completely dismissing, even belittling what Lawrence Wilkerson & Karen Kwiatkowski had to say (at great risk to themselves and their future careers when they told their story -- and THEY WERE THERE!). Give me a break.

      I wondered when he made a slip-up when during a Democracy Now interview with J-Street Jeremy Ben-Ami said that the UN was not part of the Quartet -- maybe something was going on? I hope he responds and explains himself?

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    • Just found out via JTA - Ann's brother Barney is saying bye bye! Wondering who we will be taking his place -- another Shelley Berkley? A politician to make sure Zionism lives on, and Israel is the number one foreign policy priority -- regardless what is good for the United States security and interest?

      -- Barney Frank won’t run again
      By Daniel Treiman · November 28, 2011

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  • The liberal Zionist inability to confront the right of return
  • Why is Mort Zuckerman so hot about Obama?
  • NBC and the Israel lobby
    • ehrens: "...Aside from the goofy CUFI people, this doesn’t sound right. Has anyone ever done a study of the membership of AIPAC to resolve this question...

      For example, somebody could start by looking at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), and American Israel Education Foundation, Inc -- "Compensation of Officers, Directors, Trustees, Key Employees, Highest Compensated Employees, and Independent Contractors." page of their 990. The 'important' people who basically run/manage the organization.

      Foundation Center 990 Finder
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  • Israeli newspaper owner says Obama can't stop settlers' 'apartheid regime' because of 'Jewish lobby'
    • This 'Zionist' enterprise seems to get away with blue murder.

      --U.S. Treasury says: There’s nothing to see on tax-exempt support for illegal settlements
      by Alex Kane on April 18, 2011
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    • OK, I think the picture is getting a little clearer. Also, may others can jump in and provide more information?

      I must admit, I didn't bother to follow the Christian Zionist movement much after Bush left, as I assumed the Zionists in the Democratic Party where going to be the center of attention (pulling the strings). But, now it looks as if Zionists from both parties were operating in tandem all along -- regardless who was in power. Which seems to be why Debbie Wasserman-Schultz of the DNC, Steve Israel (DCCC), (not Patty Murray of the DSCC!), and David Harris ('Israel is a litmus test to American Jews) of the NJDC didn't want the obvious collusion going on ~ supporting Israel regardless ~ when they met up with Netanyahu and the RJC. OK -- Christian Zionists money is v. much why the settlements are thriving -- which is a benefit to BOTH Republican and Democrat Jewish Zionists.

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      AIPAC as well as the rest of the I-Lobby (including pro-Israel Zionists PAC's) deal with getting the Zionist politicians in power. The Christian Zionists (notably Republicans) do have a part ot play but seems to be really down to providing the $$$. They appear to have v. little say how the $$$ is managed? John Hagee being the ultimate Charlatan - joke and paid tool of the Israeli right?

      The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews
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      The IFCJ doesn't Lobby as I can see (maybe somebody else knows more about these guys)? AIPAC and the Jewish federations seem to do that. I can see why the IFCJ wants to stay under the radar when it's collecting $$$ (under a false pretext) from idiots, where it's quickly funneled over to Israel. Once that money $$$ arrives in Israel what power do the IRS, or any US financial jurisdiction have over where that money goes and how it's spent? Does anyone really think the Israelis have the same intentions as the Christian Zionists?

      Jonathan Tobin in 2004: "...The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews ( has been around for two decades, operating on the margins of the Jewish world but deeply embedded in the hearts of evangelicals.

      Founded by Chicago-based Yechiel Eckstein, an Orthodox rabbi, and intended to be a partnership between Jews and non-Jews, some 98 percent to 99 percent of its money now comes from the Christian right.

      Where does the money go? To the same sort of programs that dollars raised by local Jewish federations across the country: to aid in the immigration and absorption of Jews to Israel, and to help care for needy Jews and endangered Jewish communities in places like the former Soviet Union, much of it via the Jewish Agency for Israel and the American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee..."

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      OK, that seems to make sense... From Donald Wagner (via Theocracy Watch link - a site I often visited when Bush was in power):

      "...Likud also turned to the Christian Zionists for help in offsetting the dramatic decline in contributions to Israel from the American Jewish establishment during the conflict between the Orthodox and Reform-Conservative branches of Judaism. When the latter cut back on their contributions to the Jewish National Fund in the late 1990s, several Christian Zionist-oriented churches were asked to make up the difference. The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, led by a former Anti-Defamation League employee and Orthodox rabbi, Yechiel Eckstein, claimed to have raised over $5 million, mostly from fundamentalist Christian sources. .."

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      It's now up to over $95 million -- what idiots!

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      Both Republicans and Zionist Democrats are fawning over Netanyahu (Likud).

    • Anyways, I’m not sure there are enough Christian Zionists out there to get anywhere near the power of the Jewish Zionists.

    • Thanks MRW -- I've been to their site many times. Also, read most of what they've had to say about the man -- his events etc. But I couldn't seem to find the answer about how he commands the financial assets of his flock? It seems he collects their money and then he decides how it's allocated, and to whom? Normally, if you have a particular issue you wish to focus on,and "create leverage" you create a PAC e.g. like NORPAC. Those donors know exactly where their money is going to "create leverage"! NORPAC is very savvy and focused in that way!

      I'm wondering does John Hagee have an office in Israel or is all/most of the money funneled through Yechiel Eckstein's (as well as being an ex-employee of ADL -- I found out) - "International Fellowship of Christians and Jews"? Who takes charge once the money and settlers arrive in Israel?

      Debate over aliyah erupts at Jewish Agency meeting
      November 18, 2011
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      Also, NORPAC (one of many Pro-Israel PACs) can get a 1000 foaming at the mouth Jewish constituents bused in to Washington D.C. CUFI can only get 5,000 'Christian' Zionists nationally? -- and look at their faces. You can see this is not an AIPAC crowd. Especially look at the little girl with the dark hair -- she reminded of the girl in the Vendetta movie - having to watch propaganda news on TV and finally walks away in disgust announcing "Bullshit" ha!

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      Anyways, I'm not sure there aren't enough Christian Zionists out there to get anywhere near the power of the Jewish Zionists.

      Hey and check this out this new Pew report:

      Lobbying for the Faithful: Religious Advocacy Groups in Washington, D.C.

      November 21, 2011

      Note: Pew has put AIPAC in the religious category -- I mean duh! coz Israel is a 'Jewish' State as our Congress critters keep telling us.

      No surprises AIPAC hits No. 1 place. Catholic religious organizations come up a massive $60,000,000 short to come in 2nd. Somehow, I don't think Christian Zionists like John Hagee are making much of a dent on the Hill when it comes to Israel.

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    • I should qualify "appears, there's not that many" i.e. when looking at self-identified Jewish polls.

      Also, another fact I didn't know:

      75% of North American Jews [become] members of congregations at some point in their lifetime..."

      Taken from: Synagogue Renewal and the Role of Federations
      By Ron Wolfson, Lawrence A. Hoffman
      Jewish Communal Service Association of North America (JCSA), Winter 2010
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    • tombishop: link to Thanks. Did you check out Brog's Blog? David Brog the Executive Director of CUFI. This guy was working in the Jewish Zionist camp long before he got involved with the Christian CUFI Zionists.

      "...Before his work with CUFI, Brog worked in the United States Senate for seven years, rising to be chief of staff to [Senator Arlen Specter - not noted on his CUFI website. Sen. Arlen Specter the guy who went off to Syria at least 18 times to negotiate on behalf of Israel without it seems the knowledge of the US State Dept half the time] and staff director of the Senate Judiciary Committee..."

      At this point, with a lack of a money trail with Christian Zionist pro-Israel $$$ PACs, I'm wondering how much Jewish Zionist $$$ is actually funding CUFI?

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      Brog's Blog
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    • Les: "...He uses “Jewish Lobby” when he means the American Jewish branch of the “Israel Lobby.” If there is such a thing as a Jewish Lobby created to support Israel at all costs, what does one call those Jews who disagree?.

      I don't know. I'm still waiting to hear that massive group that has that authentic anti-zionist voice? There are some brave souls -- not many, but there are some. Like Sylvia Schwarz of the International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network, some members of the Jewish Voices for Peace, Medea Benjamin - Code Pink, and others. When competing against the Jewish Zionist force out there overt and covert there's not that many.

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      There's also the 'American Council for Judaism' who have to fight off the frauds like J-Street and others. I keep looking.

      NYTimes Article: American Jews Who Reject Zionism Say Events Aid Cause (06/25/10)
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      'American Council for Judaism'
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    • In fact, I just tried searching on to see if I could find one Christian Zionist pro-Israel PAC? Apparently, CUFI's John Hagee has one -- but I couldn't find it. Does anyone know what it is called?

    • I see Christian Zionists in the Republican Party, but I don't see them in the Democratic Party? However, I do see the Jewish Zionists in both. Jewish Zionists giving money to both parties -- not so with Christian Zionists -- they are far too partisan.

      tombishop: "...witnessed the symbiotic relationship which exists between Orthodox Jews and evangelical Christians...

      I can believe that, although it doesn't seem rational does it. The Israelis making friends with the likes of Mike Bickle (the "prison camps" for Jews guy)??? Bizarre! But they are more than happy to use him as a tool:

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      "...shortly after the Israel Mandate conference, Stearns [CUFI director] hosted Yuli Edelstein, Israeli Minister of Information and Diaspora, on a conference call with 500 Christian Zionist participants, focused on the Gaza flotilla incident, with no mention of the end times. Mike Bickle asked Edelstein to suggest concrete political actions that could be taken, and following Edelstein’s response, Stearns thanked Bickle for working to “cultivate a heart for Israel in the nations and specifically the next generation.”..."

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      I mean, why should I feel the slightest bit sorry for the likes of Elaine Fogel when I know -- she knows that Israel is playing nice with these guys?

    • BTW: Biden's has been summoned by "Jewish American leaders" (including the Rabbis no doubt) AGAIN on Pollard!

      Biden Meets With Jewish Leaders About Pollard Case
      Tuesday, November 22, 2011
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      If this guy does get released then he should be treated with at least the same amount of contempt given to the Lockerbie bomber when he was flown home. A full hour documentary on PBS is required to show the crimes he committed against the United States to the United States National Security! Also, those who continually badged the Administration asking for his release should be interviewed and profiled!

    • I agree -- as an observer it really does look as if Judaism has been swallowed up by Zionism. Judaism has become part of the Lobby. As the Christian Zionists have attached themselves to the Republicans, the American Jewish (religious) Zionists have binded themselves to the Democratic Party -- and everyone else is expected to lump it.


      With ..."the disturbing level of discontent with the Jewish state among a number of Reform, Conservative and Reconstructionist rabbinical students spending a year in Israel..." The answer from their spirtual leaders "...“The central objective of the program is to build a Zionist mindset,” said Rabbi Ammiel Hirsch of the Stephen Wise Free Synagogue (Reform) in Manhattan. “Otherwise it’s a wasted opportunity.”

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      And when you have ex-J-Streeter (An organization supposed to be close to the Administration), URJ President-Elect Rabbi Richard Jacobs
      quoting Daniel Pipes favourably you can see many of us are seeing a massive perverted trend before us.

      My Heart is in the East: My Zionist Commitments
      Delivered by Rabbi Richard Jacobs at the Religious Action Center's Consultation on Conscience, Washington, D.C.

      "...Now, being pro-Israel means always standing in solidarity with the State of Israel. To me, Jewish life cannot be imagined without Israel at its core. ... But our love for Israel is not dependent on who is prime minister or on what issues are before the Knesset or the chief rabbinate.

      Daniel Pipes, an academic known for his hard-line Middle East views, had it right when he said recently "that anyone concerned about the security and welfare of Israel is in the pro-Israel camp."

      ...I agree wholeheartedly with Rabbi Saperstein's decision to speak at the conference, to assert again how vital movement towards a peace process is to Israel's security and America's interests, to offer thoughtful criticism of J Street's policy making, but also to offer a strong critique of J Street's stand opposing the recent US veto of the UN resolution condemning Israeli settlements.

      This coming from the supposedly progressive liberal wing of Judaism? Where's the outcry from URJ congregations?

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      URJ's equivalent program to 'BIRTHRIGHT':

      Israel, Up Close and Personal (July 25, 2011)
      By Rabbi Richard Jacobs, URJ President-Elect

      "...Just days before, these Reform Jewish teens had left their homes in North America and traveled to Eastern Europe where they stood together at Auschwitz and Birkenau contemplating the darkest moment in all of human history. Having experienced the remnants of Jewish life in Prague, they would journey next to the home most had not yet visited [Israel]..."

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  • Salon: Israel pushes US warmongering via neocon dog-tail-waggers
    • "...“the Jews”

      Isn't that why more and more people are using the word Zionist Jews noting not all Jews are Zionist? As well as not all Zionists are Jews. So the topic of "Zionism" needs to be discussed not "the Jews"?

      As well as going back to the debate that "Zionism is racist".

  • Netanyahu takes another step to demolish the brand
    • Bibi: "When he cautioned Barack Obama and other western leaders against backing the revolt against Hosni Mubarak's regime, he was told he failed to understand reality. "I ask today, who here didn't understand reality? Who here didn't understand history?"..."

      In other words: 'I told 'em -- Israel must be the .... ONLY Democracy [nb: using Bibi's definition of Democracy] in the Middle East! Come hell or high water -- we needed those paid thugs around us to keep order and to maintain our unique little State of Jewish values and priviledge. bunker down mutter mutter bunker down -- we will keep what is ours forever and ever.'

      Is there a checks and balances sanity clause in Israel?

  • Who's on top in VF piece-- 'Tom Buchanan' Winkelvosses or 'lifelong elite' Zuckerberg?
  • 'J Street' distances itself from board member who met with Hamas officials
    • Philip Weiss: "kudos to Peratis. Maybe a sign of things to come?

      Sorry, I just see her as part of the problem, not the solution. A spoke in the wheel of the Zionist J-Street left flank -- appearing to be to be conciliatory, but all the while the theft of land, and the discrimation of the Palestinian people are muzzled and ignored by J-Street's right flank.

      Sorry to be cynical -- but I'm looking for results -- not cheery photo-ops of fringe J-Street members (as well as being on the board of Human Rights Watch) shaking hands with the supposed zionist enemy and this to be seen as a sign of bravery, or even progress.

      Unfortunately, I couldn't link to the original article/debate to see Kathleen Peratis in action -- but I think David Samel's response was interesting, showing -- bottom line what Ms. Kathleen Peratis modus operandi really is.

      Put it down and walk away?! (an exchange over BDS, and Israel, between 2 Jewish lawyers)
      by David Samel and Kathleen Peratis on November 22, 2010 86

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  • The problem with 'occupation' in the occupy movement
    • I agree, this should be the focus. The money trail and those who manage it, protect it, and definitely profit from it.

  • Unprecedented Minneapolis forum of 4 Jews arguing about Israel is on-line now
    • The Jewish Federation guy was not a happy bunny was he! Also, Ron Garber from J-Street you could see was getting really uncomfortable when he felt his agenda of maintaining the "status quo", wasn't going down too well. I can see how important that 'Jewish' holiday home is to him. It was pretty obvious -- he was not there to listen.

      Kudos to Sylvia Schwarz, and that brave woman who came up to the lectern and spoke truth to power.

  • Phoenix Jewish columnist says Obama's complaint about Netanyahu made American Jews feel unsafe
    • Elaine: "...Cliff, I don’t expect non-Jews to understand Diaspora Jewish devotion to the State of Israel. Some will and some won’t..."

      Don't worry Elaine, I understand it's because you're 'special' isn't it. Scary place that anti-semitic Diaspora world you live in. But I bet it's good to know you can always bunker down in Israel if needs be -- a happy place where you don't need to trust anyone else except your fellow Jews (as well as knowing the US taxpayers will pay for the privilege). I know, you just need a few more years to expunge those "anti-semite" crayon drawing Palestinian kids from the place, and all will be well.

      Unbelievable Elaine!

    • The ADL -- well! But look at the OSCE -- arghh!

      JTA: Report: Hate crimes data in Europe inadequate
      November 18, 2011

      WASHINGTON (JTA) -- "The European body monitoring hate crimes said that governments fail to provide adequate data.

      A report on hate crimes in 2010 released this month by the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe found that some states do not collect any data all on such crimes, a finding that was backed by the Anti-Defamation League and Human Rights First..."

      link to

      This pathological need or obsession to find out what people think of them -- to the point of taking over NGO's as well as government entities to drive their obsessive agenda is just plain bizarre.

      I just hope they stay out of NATO!!!

    • All I can say is I've met them -- they first come across as humane and caring describing themselves as liberal and progressive Democrats -- caring about the social issues of the day -- BUT they certainly don't come across that way when you start talking negatively about Israel -- and definitely not when you talk about negotiating with IRAN. Some of them would send American kids to war for Israel in a heart beat. The transformation is stunning!

      Polls are one thing, I agree -- but when you meet them face to face -- boy oh boy@! There's no give -- they demand you be a Democrat faithful to Israel. I can't do that. In my mind the Democratic party is dead -- it's the Likud party now.

      Thanks Saban for your AIPAC Intern program - NOT.

  • Derfner slams Jason Alexander as yet another 'evenhanded liberal failure'
    • US citizens : Most US citizens are absolutely clueless. The MSM is crap, the education system doesn't teach civics, world history, even geography. Throw in religion and you also have a fair number who are basically brain dead.

    • Keith: I am of the opinion that it is American Zionists more than Israeli Zionists who are the source of much of the problem. ... American Zionists as the umbilical cord attaching the US empire to the Jewish state..."

      Yes, I would agree with that. However, I think there's more of a symbotic relationship going on. A few years ago I remember there was some hesitation, even pushback in the US Jewish press, when Israel's hencemen would come over and demand loyality from the Jewish groups and Rabbis that were questioning the all out neocon plan (Bush was in power at the time) pushing for a confrontation with Iran. Compliance was being ordered from Israel not the US Zionist movement, although many were already on board. Now I think the chain of command has definitely been established. Both American and Israeli zionists seem to be in lock step -- taking orders, spiritual guidance (whatever) from Israel (Netanyahu). Nothing that Israel does is wrong!

      Ok, one thing I think we can both agree on is that both Israeli and American zionist are insisting the Zionist 'Industry' must continue -- and be paid for.

      Absolutely the US has its own plans for world domination (empire), oil what-not over Russia, China, India. They for sure played a part in all of this. I just think they've now been out-maneouved by Israel's plans of world domination (empire). Nutbars.

      Keith: "...Israel aligned with currents in the Arab world seeking independence from the United States was a disaster. Only an Israeli Sparta beholden to American power..."

      Israel aligned with anybody would amaze me -- nobody in the world trusts them accept for the US (well, trust might not be the right word). Probably why they are gripping on to the US for dear life. Israel is using every trick in the book -- bribes, spies in government, politicians in Congress, religion, gobs of $$ and a few hundred nukes of their own to drive home the fact that scratch N. Korea -- they are the 'loose cannon' in the world. They don't feel the need to act as the spokesperson for the US.

    • Keith: "...If it was just the Israeli government, it wouldn’t be that big of a problem. Alas, the US government (empire) and American Zionists make a large contribution to the problem and, in fact, may be the critical stumbling block to a solution...

      However, I believe the Israeli neocon faction is very much pulling the strings at the moment in the US/driving the agenda (definitely in Congress). Until I can see ANY US realists in positions of INFLUENCE, or power at the top I can't necessarily agree with you that the US government is a critical stumbling block -- for that to happen I think you would be seeing a more equal US/Israel relationship -- and I'm not seeing that - I see Israel is currently walking right over the US.

      I don't think it's the US that wants to attack Iran, and piss off China and Russia? OK, what do I know -- but really it seems a no-brainer. We're up to our eyeballs in debt -- we have a stretched military (with kids still in Afghanistan!), and we have a huge military that depends on oil to survive. Who really wants to create chaos AGAIN?

    • Or maybe he's slowly coming to terms that it's not going to be possible to have a Jewish State of Israel that can also be liberal and democratic? It's OVER.

      We all live in hope that he has seen the light!

    • Derfner: "...So why does Alexander write this “yes, you can” crap? Either he’s lying to himself, or he’s afraid – afraid to blame Israel and not the Palestinians, afraid to be called a self-hating Jew, an Arab-lover, afraid of being written off as biased against Israel. So he plays patty-cake – he doesn’t play the “blame game,” he’s “constructive,” he doesn’t take sides, he deals out the same advice to Israelis and Palestinians, and thinks he goes home a peacemaker..."

      ...The problem, of course, is not that Jason Alexander is too faint-hearted to tell the truth about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and thereby possibly help change it; the problem is that this conflict is plagued by faint-hearted, even-handed, liberal failures just like him..."

      I sooo agree, and of course Jason Alexander is NOT the only one spouting this unadulterated conciliatory BS. Who is paying for this crap?

      I had to painfully listen to the same claptrap coming from Mark Rosenblum at an Ilan Pappe event I wanted to go and see. It was painful listening to this condescending excuse-making pro-zionist fake peace-maker.

      Mark Rosenblum apparently "a founder of Americans for Peace Now and the Israeli-Palestinian Youth Dialogue program" -- IMO a total fake.

      link to

      Ilan Pappé & Mark Rosenblum: Palestine at the United Nations
      Monday, September 19, 2011 - Seattle Town Hall

      You can listen to the event here by clicking on the photo:

      link to

      Thank you Pirate TV Seattle!

  • Barak orders strike on Gaza during 'Charlie Rose'-- and checks what looks like a Rolex
  • Egypt, Syria, and the dynamics of counter-revolution
    • Walid: "...You’re right I did oversimplify situations but this was intentional as I don’t feel any interest here in seriously getting into the ME’s complexities and I stopped short of saying which parties were wearing the white hats and which the black ones to keep it flowing..."

      That's not true. Most of us don't have the luxury of having access (or time) to read the foreign press, academia journals, and source materials etc.. Doesn't mean we are as dumb as rocks and are not interested!

      You obviously have considerable knowledge about the region and players, but there's need to toss that information aside and basically tell us there's no point in explaining it all as we won't be able to understand it anyway. Thanks!

      I hope you continue to write here. This post is a keeper for me. Also, I still would like to know more about the Israel/Saudi relationship?

    • Walid: Sand, all big corporations have always worked on bribes and will continue to do so; this is how business is conducted with governments and BAE was no exception.

      Yes, I figured that out a long while ago Walid :) But, what really hit me is on our MSM Tee-vee -- world-wide regulatory agencies basically saying there's nothing they can do e.g.

      EVA JOLY, Fmr. French Magistrate: We are successful in fighting petty corruption. We are successful in fighting probably medium corruption. And sometimes by accident, we are successful in huge corruption, [Madoff/FM Global -- but even then the trail usually stops v. suddenly] but it is by accident. There are one rule for the powerful and other rules for other people, and the rule of law is not complete. There are black zones, black holes..."

      You can read this stuff in books, on the internet, via visionaries such Chris Hedges etc.-- but our very own PBS -- I'm just saying it kinda hits you that "we really are screwed."

      Read more: link to

    • Fascinating.

      I've heard that those US troops in Iraq are not "coming home", but are being re-deployed to places like Kuwait and other parts of the Gulf? If so, for what purpose?

      Also, what do you think about the possibilty of the Saudi's giving Israel the ok to use their airspace (that rumour has obviously been floated around for quite a few years now) -- what's your take on that?

      As an aside on 'Global Finance' -- via Netflix I noticed that in 2009 PBS Frontline made a number of documentaries on the corruption of our global markets, only touching the surface mind you:), but interesting nonetheless. Also, noticing we haven't had anything like those Wall Street 'finance' documentaries since -- unless I've just been missing them?

      I was particularly interested in the Frontline's "Black Money" programme -- focusing on the British government scandel of BAE Systems -- throwing in Saudi Arabia ~ of course@! At the end of the program -- I definitely wanted to know more -- also noticing Israel was not mentioned (well ok maybe once).

      "...DAVID LEIGH: But the Saudis couldn't easily buy direct from the U.S. because there would be problems with Congress because of the Israel lobby. It was easier politically to buy this equipment from the British, and it was pretty much a secret at the time that then British prime minister Mrs. Thatcher and then U.S. president Ronald Reagan had been involved with Bandar in organizing this arms deal..."

      link to

      PBS Frontline: Black Money
      link to

      Fascinating, but also all rather depressing.

  • France chides Israeli ambassador following consul injury in Gaza attack
  • Kissinger: 'Is there a more self-serving group of people than the Jewish community?'
    • You reminded me: Blankfort had a run-in with the ADL when they were spying on him. Nice bunch at the ADL@!

      link to

    • Donald: "...why the hell would anyone cite Kissinger as some sort of moral authority?.."

      I don't think anyone was -- Most people know who Kissinger is, and "moral" definitely wouldn't be a word to describe him.

      Donald: "...I’m all for pointing out that many in the Jewish community exhibit the same ethnocentric behaviors of white southerners that I knew growing up. Singling out Jews as the very worst on the moral authority of Henry Kissinger is a bit much...

      Following on from what you said.

      Yes, if I had to go to a Thanksgiving dinner with family members who wanted to discuss their grand holiday going to apartheid Israel, where they beat up and kill Palestinians -- I think I can honestly compare it to someone having to sit through a meal with relatives talking about their excitement of attending a Ku Klux Klan holiday camp. I believe that is where we are.

    • James North: "Richard Witty said, ‘Here’s how I politely try and put across my point of view:

      You Stalinist hanging judge.

      ‘This is how I promote “dialog” (sic)’

      I think that's the whole point -- Witty doesn't want dialogue.

      Any discussion about "self-serving" (especially disturbing) elements within the Jewish community seem to be a taboo subject for Witty.

    • Another interesting connection with regards to that Biden "over my dead body" NY Times article -- which could kinda be construed as a Biden 'not on our side' piece?

      NYTimes: "...At a fund-raiser Sept. 20 at a home in Shaker Heights, Ohio, all but one of the questions that Mr. Biden took were about foreign policy — namely Israel..."

      link to

      It was the "Ratner" family fundraiser. This includes Ellen Ratner (Talk Radio News Service) of the Thom Hartman radio show. Talks her head off about Sudan and Haiti, but shuts up when it comes to Israel's atrocities -- The I-Lobby is never allowed to be mentioned on that show. Thom Hartman and Ellen Ratner -- figures!@

      Josh Mandel's family ties make for fascinating politics
      link to

    • Jesus! The original NY Times article on Biden was even worse that I remembered it!

      Obama Turns to Biden to Reassure Jewish Voters, and Get Them to Contribute, Too
      Published: September 30, 2011
      link to

      This is the stranglehold on our politics -- well definitely when it comes to the Democratic/Likud party.

    • The Jewish Federations of North America represents 157 Jewish Federations and over 300 Network communities, which raise and distribute more than $3 billion annually for social welfare, social services and educational needs. The Federation movement, collectively among the top 10 charities on the continent, protects and enhances the well-being of Jews worldwide through the values of tikkun olam (repairing the world), tzedakah (charity and social justice) and Torah (Jewish learning).
      link to

      Biggie JFNA Program Item:
      Israel Action Network "Hotspots" of the Delegitimization Movement Consultation
      Governors Square 11
      By invitation only
      link to

      Being a big boot across everyone's neck.

    • Excuse me!

      Donald “Is there a more self-serving group of people than the Jewish community?” is a racist statement.”

      With a plethota of examples in the US political and jewish religious community which are 'highly' noticable, and readily identifiable -- why should it not be a topic of discussion?

      Obviously you don't follow the Jewish Press! Not going to the 2012 Tribefest I guess? As well as not counting the over-abundance of Jewish only internet dating sites? Or, reading the 2012 Program List of the The Jewish Federation of North American General Assembly in Denver?

      link to

      BTW talking of Pollard -- Down in DNC Debbie Wasserman-Schultz protected FL terrority:

      "...U.S. President Joe Biden denied he said spy Jonathan Pollard would be released "over his dead body," telling U.S. Jewish leaders on Wednesday, however, that the sentiment expressed in his rejection was his own.

      Referring to the convicted Israeli spy, Biden was quoted by the New York Times on Saturday as telling Florida rabbis that U.S. President Obama "was considering clemency, but I told him, ‘Over my dead body are we going to let him out before his time'’"

      "We said it was an important issue for the community, and he agreed to have a meeting on it," Hoenlein [Malcolm Hoenlein, Executive Vice Chairman of the Conference of Presidents] said.

      link to

      Really! If that's not self-serving I don't know what is!

      Donald doth protest too much.

    • A special interest group sucking up money and resources at the expense of another group -- I wouldn't call that charitable.

      Also, the Insurance and Cigarette 'business' lobbies are at least semi-regulated - not so, for the likes of AIPAC that should have been 'regulated' and 'monitored' as a lobby "acting as agents of foreign principals" long ago for its blatant lobbying of the 'national security interests' for a special interest religious group living in another country.

    • Got another one.

      Apparently Jews having to have their very own 'thought-police' department (paid by US Taxpayers) on the 7th floor of the U.S. State Dept:

      U.S. Department of State: Monitoring and Combating Anti-Semitism
      link to

    • American: "...I am very objectively describing/and objecting to what the zionist are doing in the US regarding influence for Israel..."

      US Taxpayer Funded: "Nonprofit Security Grant Program administered by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security"

      Another Jewish-centric $$$ program -- "All thanks to the United States taxpayer" that fuels the likes of "eee" with his/her Jewish bunker mentality. Local law enforcement agencies not good enough for them eh! They are so 'special' that it stands reason they need to suck out "73.7%" of the DHS $118m program budget. Other groups that are often targetted by crime like gays, muslims etc... hey -- go suck on it.

      In 2011:

      FORWARD: "...Jewish groups were the big winners, with 81% of those awards.

      This disproportionate distribution is no accident. Examining the grants program provides a window into Jewish organizational and political power. It is this power that allowed a small community to create and maintain a government program tailored specifically for its needs and catering almost exclusively to its members..."

      No kidding!

      Article: 09/29/11 How an Anti-Terror Program Became a Jewish Earmark -- Grants Favor the Orthodox and the Organized
      By Nathan Guttman, Eileen Reynolds and Maia Efrem
      link to

    • eee: "Not in this case because American is claiming that there a laws that were made only to benefit Jews. Why are you supporting his position if you cannot provide ONE such example? Oh yes, the laws are “buried and hidden”.

      The special *case* for Jews within the Jewish State of Israel. Do any real 'Palestinian' charities get any US tax deductions?

      IRS: Israeli charities. You may be able to deduct contributions to certain Israeli charitable organizations under an income tax treaty with Israel. To qualify for the deduction, your contribution must be made to an organization created and recognized as a charitable organization under the laws of Israel. The deduction will be allowed in the amount that would be allowed if the organization was created under the laws of the United States, but is limited to 25% of your adjusted gross income from Israeli sources...

      link to

  • Critics of Palestine solidarity within Occupy Wall Street rely on distortion
    • Richard Witty says:
      November 17, 2011 at 10:15 pm

      But Jeffrey's right. The smell can be quite strong sometimes.

    • AVI_G: I once spoke with the director of the New Israel Fund branch in New York city. He stated that while Washington DC was the center of political power in the United States, New York was the center of finance. The exact quote was, “This is where the money is.”

      Apparently, in New York it's not earth shattering news (except for DBG).

      "...A Democratic political consultant who worked on President Clinton's re-election campaign, Hank Sheinkopf, noted that the Aipac dinner always draws a parade of politicians.

      "New York is the ATM for American politicians. Large amounts of money come from the Jewish community," he said. "If you're running for president and you want dollars from that group, you need to show that you're interested in the issue that matters most to them."

      link to

  • AIPAC Hollywood junket to Israel meets protest
  • Ross's departure will hurt Obama's reelection hopes, Abrams explains
    • 2011 Annual Survey of American Jewish Opinion
      link to

      "...800 respondents were interviewed by telephone between September 6 -21, 2011..."

      6. If the 2012 election for president were being held today, whom would you vote for from among the following choices?

      a. Barack Obama is the Democratic candidate and Mitt Romney is the Republican candidate? Barack Obama, Mitt Romney, or neither?

      Obama = 50%
      Romney = 32%
      Neither = 16%
      Don't Know/Not Sure = 2%

      b. Barack Obama is the Democratic candidate and Rick Perry is the Republican candidate? Barack Obama, Rick Perry, or neither?

      Obama = 55%
      Perry = 25%!!!
      Neither = 18%
      Don't Know/Not Sure 2%

      c. Short version: AJC telephone Jews like Perry more than Bachmann.

      18. If diplomacy and sanctions fail, would you support or oppose the United States taking military action against Iran to prevent it from developing nuclear weapons?

      Support= 56
      Oppose = 38
      Not sure= 6

      19. If diplomacy and sanctions fail, would you support or oppose Israel taking military action against Iran to prevent it from developing nuclear weapons?

      Support = 68
      Oppose = 26
      Not sure = 6

      23. In politics as of today, do you consider yourself a Republican, a Democrat, or an Independent? [Interesting!]

      Republican = 16
      Democrat = 45
      Independent = 38
      Not sure = 2

    • "...Jewish-American electorate which remains pretty Democratic and mostly concerned about other issues than Israel..."

      Not so true in Florida. Development down there will be interesting!

      Debbie "DNC" Wasserman-Schultz will have to work overtime.

  • Dennis Ross announces he is leaving the Obama administration in December
    • hophmi "...No. I think it’s antisemitic to call for his deportation and accuse him of swearing allegiance to another country. One could derisively characterize his viewpoint as being identified with sympathy for Israel’s point of view in the context of American peacemaking and in the context of taking the position that America has a national and security interest in making sure Israel is on board with any peace agreement...

      They don't get deported? However, I think it really creepy when these guys start talking about wearing the same pins. "Dan and I wear the same pins."

      Israel’s Ambassador to the U.S. Michael Oren
      link to

      Michael Oren is about to become single loyalty. Before he was just dual
      link to

    • From the I-Lobby 'Rabbi Chapter' meeting with WH officials in 2010:

      page 42 Rabbi Victor Urecki: "...The answer I and others got was the President will find his opportunities to make his feelings known in time (i.e. to "reach out to Israelis who have serious concerns about him"). And that was it.

      There was more but as if to emphasize the point that we should not worry about where the President stands on Israel, Emmanuel, Dennis ross and Dan Shapiro, as Jews and supporters of Israel, emphasized to us that they would not be in this Administration if they felt, for one minute, Obama's priorities were not in the right place..."

      Bye bye Ross.

      link to

    • Or:

      @TonyKaron "Dennis Ross quits: A message to his constituency that Obama won't be attacking Iran? There goes the AIPAC vote..."

      Maybe there is some pushback within the Administration?

      Leon Panetta warns against Iran strike
      US defence secretary says military action against Iranian nuclear sites could have unintended consequences for the region

      link to

  • Tom Friedman pushed Iraq war as 'radical liberal revolution' to 'install democracy in heart of Arab world'
    • 1. However, when we all found out that Joe Lieberman turned out to be a neocon all along, a majority of CT Jewish voters apparently still voted for "iconic Jewish Senator" Lieberman rather than voting for the Democrat. That was sad.
      link to

      2. I never thought Ginsburg was the neocon warmonger, or hardcore zionist type. However, Lieberman did a rather good job of changing the political game outside the doors of the Supreme Court. From the film Recount:

      -- Thanks for nothing Lieberman

      3. I've always wondered that? Maybe Cheney was part of the 'The Crazies' gang after all? Having mini-strokes affecting his brain and coming to the conclusion if you can't beat them, then join them?

      --All Options on the Table
      link to

  • When is it okay to say that Jews own Wall Street?
    • Good one! :)

    • Yes, a little too much to digest. But it certainly show how conjuring up the good ole character of Shylock -- seems to works every time. Be ashamed you anti-semite for connecting Jews in any shape or form to Wall Street.

      Correct me if I'm wrong -- so your overarching premise[?] "...You can say that Jews ""own"" Wall Street—or anything else about Jews—as long as you are a “friend of Israel.” I dunno -- maybe "seem to run" would be a better word?

      Also, you said -- "...I don’t know about Rush, but when I hear “banker,” I think banks..." You think of just banks? When I hear the word banks, I think of a system -- a bloody shady system. My next thought is how does that system operate? Is there a hierarchy? Who are the main players, and how do they connect to other players in the system/network?

      "...a lot of those people on Wall Street are Jewish. .." Well, yes -- especially at the upper echelon, basically the power brokers. "The statement alone is meaningless..., I totally agree.

      But, if you take the assertion that Limbaugh might be making and establishing a correlation between "ALL" Jews own the gears of capital -- don't you think you're stretching it? The Jewish thought police [ADL] might want you to stretch that far -- but do you really think that's what Limbaugh was alluding to? He's certainly not dumb -- I mean the guy does want to keep his job.

      I think we keep falling into the trap -- knowing we'll easily be pushed into the corner, and then have our words twisted, that us non-Jews really hate ALL Jews underneath. It's certainly a way to deflect us from looking at what is really going on! You've heard of the Italian and Russian Mafia, the Hell's Angel's -- of course you have. So, are all Italians part of the Italian mafia -- No! So, if someone dares asks the simple question if there could be a classic criminal tribal mafia network working inside Wall Street, would that be wrong?

      But, because it's regarded as "classic anti-Semitism" -- we are not allowed to touch it with a barge poll. What was Madoff's scandal all about -- yes Greed, but even in the Forward they surmised: "It was a crime built on an abundance of misplaced trust, one that allowed tribal fealty to eclipse responsible judgment...", but that angle was never allowed to be explored in mainstream media.
      link to

      “...Many Jewish philanthropies are dependent on high-end donors in very close social and economic networks, and this guy [Madoff] is right in middle of them,” said Jewish philanthropy expert Gary Tobin, president of the Institute for Jewish and Community Research. “It’s like finding out that your father is a felon — this is bad news for the family.”
      link to

      Anyway, the guy basically got 150 years, because he agreed not to spill the beans and decided to take the fall. How the SEC got away with what they ignored, I will never know!

      And, now we have a new scandal with both financial and political network implications?

      "...In a major banking scandal, the commodities and derivatives brokerage house MF Global filed one of the largest bankruptcies in American corporate history, with almost $40 billion in liabilities. It was the largest failure on Wall Street since the collapse of Lehman Brothers in 2008. The chairman and chief executive officer of MF Global is Jon Corzine, a former New Jersey governor and U.S. senator. Corzine is also the former CEO of Goldman Sachs..."

      link to

      Do you think Corzine's financial operation/network will be examined? But, remember he's just a banker.

  • Threatening letter to Obama on chilling Turkey is signed by 7 Jewish House members, says Peace Now
    • Oh and hophmi,

      Shelley Berkley is the Co-chair of the Congressional Israel Allies Foundation with Eliot Engel, as well as Nita Lowey.

      About the IIACF
      "...The International Israel Allies Caucus Foundation (IIACF) exists to unabashedly strengthen international support for Israel in governments and parliaments around the world.
      This is accomplished through cooperation with members of official parliamentary caucuses in support of Israel and the development of coordinated activities with these caucuses. About the International Israel Alliance Caucus Foundation.

      IACF is a sister caucus of the The Knesset Christian Allies Caucus.

      "...Through the establishment of our sister organizations, the KCAC has created an international network of bi-partisan parliamentary caucuses at the echelon of government. These work in close communication with the KCAC and one and other to mobilize government support for Israel and coordinate pro-Israel activities.

      While international caucus members are not all necessarily Christian, they are committed to the development of Judeo- Christian relations based on the religions’ mutual values and the mobilization of support for Israel..."

      link to

    • Hophmi "...No, I mean when you ascribe policies to Jewish members of Congress and suggest that they promote those policies because of their religion and suggest further that they are not patriotic Americans.

      Oh god Hophmi~!... 2 seconds googling:- Just one example,

      Jewish Federation of Grand Rapids: Five Minutes with Congresswoman Shelley Berkley (D-Nev.)

      -- Michelle Labgold: Congresswoman, what are your top priorities for this year?

      Congresswoman Berkley: On the international scene, making sure that the roadmap laid out by the President** does not encumber Israel in any way, move towards secure borders free from terrorist attacks, dismantling of the terrorist infrastructure, having the Palestinians account for the millions of dollars that the United States and members of the European Union provided for them, have Israel's right to exist be recognized by all of its Arab neighbors and the Palestinians so they can live within secure borders.

      -- Labgold: Congresswoman, how do you work within your caucus to build support for issues of concern to the Jewish community?

      I have been a pro-Israel activist for most of my life, very active in Federation, AIPAC, ADL, American Jewish Committee and so forth, and without any fear of contradiction, I would say the United States Congress is very supportive of issues that affect the Jewish community, particularly our strong support of the State of Israel. I realize not every member of Congress has a Jewish constituency and a passion for the issues as I do, but along with the twenty-six other Jewish members of Congress, we do our best to educate other members who may not be as sensitive to these issues as we are about the importance of a strong relationship between the United States and Israel and trying to explain the difference between a victim of terrorist attacks and a perpetrator.

      link to

      ** Remembering Berkley is supposed to be a member of the DEMOCRATIC PARTY not Netanyahu's LIKUD PARTY.

      As for your clichéd response implying we're saying "they are not patriotic Americans" well you can bury that one sunshine.

  • JTA wonders why 'Jewish influence' is so 'pervasive' in our politics
    • I side with "Chris Hedges - The Decay of Empire - Page 272/3"

      "...Footprint data suggests that, based on current lifestyles,the sustainable population of the United Kingdom - the number of people the country, with an estimated population by 2010 of about 62 million, could feed, fuel and support from its own biological capacity -- is about 18 million. This means that in an age of extreme scarcity, some 44 million people in Great Britain would not be able to survive. Overpopulation will become a serious threat to the viability of many industralized states the instant the cheap consumption of the world's resources can no longer be maintained..."

      Adding, and I don't want young ignorant kids to die for those resources.

    • I agree -- the UK definitely had a history of discriminatory immigration policy based on ethnicity in the past. But not in 2011 when it comes to the regulations of the EU. However, the UK still has a (sustainable) population issue.

      See how the UK's population is changing
      link to

    • eee It is not an issue of ethnicity, it is an issue of quantity. Whatever the ethnicity of the refugees Israel cannot absorb them without a huge decline in the standard of living.

      So the UK - that small little over populated Island isn't allowed to restrict immigration -- but Israel is? And, the UK doesn't even want to restrict on ethnicity. Plus, the UK and US is paying for Israel's 'right'? to restrict immigration on ethnicity - totally sick and twisted -- but what's new.

    • Except if you are 'Dominique Gaston André Strauss-Kahn' in which case the probing question of "who were you with last night" miraculously gets pushed aside. Sorry couldn't resist.

    • adding:

      -- Please don’t 'take' it personally – but really, eee got it right a few weeks back — truly where in the Jewish political influencial community are “anti-zionist” Jewish organizations in the US”?

      It's because I respect you and MJ Rosenberg (+ Richard Silverstein), I often don't go into what I see as the blatant contradictions. e.g. :(

      MJ: "...I quickly corrected him. I told him that I was neither anti-Zionist nor anti-Israel. In fact, I am pro-Israel and that if I wasn't, I doubt I would be involved so heavily in the fight for justice for the Palestinians..."
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      At this point -- with the 'reality' of the state/State of (Jewish) Israel -- knowing it ain't gonna change for the better (and we know full well @ Mondo why it won't change) if you're NOT anti-Zionist, I really have to question what the *new* game plan is?

    • "...maybe im trying to help save the jewish community. as i often say, herzl was a xmas tree jew like myself who was made jewish again by the antisemites, and acted to try and help his community. neocons have done the trick for me."

      And I became involved in the US political scene, because Katrina, and then the astonishing disingenuousness (esp. after 911) of those supposed 'xmas jews' that weren't that tolerant of xmas after all? Please don't it personally - but really, eee got it right a few weeks back -- truly where in the Jewish political influencial community are "anti-zionist" Jewish organizations in the US"?

      We've come a long way since the early days of W&M ~2005/6 exposing the self-interested hypocrisy of the Jewish elite in politics (and finance).

      e.g. Health care over Israel - hell yeah!

  • Reform Jews' biennial will feature ultra-right, Sharansky and Kristol
    • Reform Jewish leader Eric Yoffie *cough splutter* the "liberal wing of organized Judaism." Liberal in what sense? I think this is his 'Parting Shot' -- his loud and clear message who is really is, and what the URJ has stood for all along. This conference looks like his cause célèbre before he seeks greener pastures, or getting a job where he can help burn down some more nice green olive trees?

      What I'm more interested in is his successor -- J-Streeter -- Rabbi Richard Jacobs? ZOA back in March were a tad concerned, but really do they need to be?!

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      Also, Jacob's will hold prominent positions in other sheres of political Jewish influence:

      "...However, as president of the URJ, the statement said, Jacobs "will assume many new official posts on Jewish communal organizations, including the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, the Jewish Agency for Israel and the American Israel Public Affairs Committee."..."

      So, will he turn like all the others -- made to look a sham all in the name and action of being "Pro-Israel"?

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  • Lacking 'legitimacy' in its neighborhood, Israel is imploding -- Sullivan
    • Link: ttp://

  • Props for the amazing political space OWS created (but who is talking about Palestine?)
    • "...Dunno…what does it matter the religion or culture of the many at the top of the the US banking system. So what..."

      I think it matters -- How could you have forgotten Madoff? - His obvious network of powerful friends, how the game was played. Most definitely religion and culture has been seen to play an important part in the financial industry.

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      h/t: P. Weiss
      --‘WSJ’ drops one shoe: Madoff exploited a Jewish ‘network of trust’

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  • Gary Ackerman blasts NYU divestment campaign, NYU students and faculty blast back
    • I totally agree... Gary Ackerman "outgoing chairman of the International Council of Jewish Parliamentarians which is sponsored by the World Jewish Congress" -- has hard-core Israel-Firster 24/7 written all over him, which is why I'm rather confused when M Jay Rosenberg had this to say about the man on his Twitter account recently:

      MJ Rosenberg
      In private, Rep. Gary Ackerman is 2 left of #Abbas. In public, he is Avigdor Lieberman. #Palestine #Israel #p2 6 Oct

      Damn right bizarre! And MJ's spun this angle more than once?

      -- With September looming, unity can't wait
      By Gary Ackerman
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