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I wonder where the struggle between universal human rights and - “A Jew is by the nature of his creation a purer being. Similarly with the holiness of the land: The soil of Israel is essentially holier, the stones are holier because the land was destined by God to serve as the place of the Children of Israel” is headed. - "Either we are all sacred or none of us is" - Paul Fourhorns Tenoso Also wondering if Judaism can be saved before the buzzsaw of history and the arc of justice get to Israel. BZU graduate. Big fan of hummus bil lahme and old style Jewish dissent.

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  • As AJC and CAMERA go after Jebreal for writing up Israeli 'hate policies,' 'NYT' backs her up
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      "The success of the BDS movement reflects mounting pressure, especially from Europe, from NGOs, trade unions, churches and others which are forcing their governments to take action against Israel. The European Union is taking an increasingly tougher line and the boycott movement is gaining traction in the US, where it had struggled to win support."

    • Meanwhile Soda stream pulls out of its settlement

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    • "President Reuven Rivlin has recently made great efforts to confront what is undeniably a genuine problem for Israeli society"

      FFS. What is Rivlin going to do about it ? It's just another STFU from Zionism.

  • Normalizing occupation, NYT runs whimsical story on time zones
    • The NYT is not a patch on what it was 20 years ago when it still had a functioning business model.

    • Please send what you can to help throw Israel under the bus. It doesn't matter how little. It's the thought that counts.

    • Zionism is incoherent at this stage

      Goldberg says Israelis are traumatised by anti-Semitism. Bennett says calling Bibi chickenshit is an insult to Jews all over the world.
      Bennett said the Gazans were "self genociding" in July. This was on behalf of Jews everywhere too, presumably.

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      "Responding to the remarks in the Atlantic late on Tuesday night, Israel’s far-right economics minister, Naftali Bennett, used his Facebook page to call for Washington to renounce the comments: “If what was written [in The Atlantic] is true, then it appears the current administration plans to throw Israel under the bus.

      “The prime minister is not a private person but the leader of the Jewish state and the whole Jewish world. Such severe insults towards the prime minister of Israel are hurtful to millions of Israeli citizens and Jews all over the world. "

    • What time are the settlers on? As far as I could make out it's 67 AD in YESHA.

    • I clicked on the Atlantic link

      ” For an Israeli public traumatized by Hamas violence and anti-Semitism"

      FFS. They chose to persecute Gaza. It was supposed to be over in a week.
      They don't like dead IDF conscripts? Maybe they should tone down the nihilism.

  • A conversation with Abu Yazan, one of the founders of Gaza Youth Breaks Out
    • "As a normal person? I would dismantle the political parties, I would take away all weapons,"

      the Jews in Poland didn't have any weapons and they were wiped out. Israel will do the same to Gaza if it gets its way. It's directly related to what the Jews in Poland experienced. Trauma cascading down the generations. Vermin thinking from those who once were thought of as vermin.

      Without Hamas this summer nobody would have given a thought to Gaza.

  • Rivlin commemorates Kfar Qassem massacre and speaks of 'equality'
    • I don't remember him saying anything when Gaza was being carpetbombed.

    • Rivlin might be one of these Zionist outliers like Halper that bots like Hophmi point to while saying "aren't we so progressive" with the torture continuing in the background.

    • "The State of Israel is the national home of the Jewish people, who returned to their land after two millennia of exile. This was its very purpose. However, the State of Israel will also always be the homeland of the Arab population…" -

      It is still impossible for senior bots to call them Palestinians. Arab Israeli is all they can say.
      What is the difference between homeland and national home ? National homes sounds like a real crock BTW.

      I'd like my national home to be in Tahiti.

  • US-Israel relationship is still 'strong and formidable,' says State Dep't
    • Psaki is such a joke.

      I could imagine her 50 years ago insisting that Liberace was not gay. As a full time role.

    • Staying on the Beyoncé theme I think there's a big risk of the Yanks having a rapprochement with Iran in the name of realpolitik . Israel brings the Yanks NOTHING.

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      Up in the club (club), we just broke up (up), I'm doing my own little thing.
      Decided to dip (dip) and now you wanna trip (trip)
      'Cause another (mullah) brother noticed me

      I'm up on him, he up on me
      Don't pay him any attention
      Just cried my tears, for forty three good years
      Ya can't be mad at me

      'Cause if you liked it, then you should have put a Palestinian state on it
      If you liked it, then you shoulda put human dignity on it
      Don't be mad once you see that he want it
      'Cause if you liked it, then you shoulda put justice on it
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      If you liked it, then you should have put decency on it
      If you liked it, then you t be mad once you see that he want it
      Don't be mad once you see that he want it
      If you liked it, then you shoulda put a Palestinian state on it

      I need no permission, did I mention
      Don't pay him any attention
      'Cause you had your turn, and now you gonna learn
      What it really feels like to miss me

    • "US-Israel relationship is still ‘strong and formidable,’ says State Dep’t "

      Reminds me of "insiders" commenting on some doomed celebrity marriage. I just don't get the feeling that ordinary Americans (especially those under 40) are crazy in love with Zionism any more.

      Uh oh, uh oh, uh oh, oh no no

  • How Israel is turning Gaza into a super-max prison
    • What really interests me is why this stuff is happening and what exactly is dysfunctional in the Israeli psyche. how do you explain it ?

      I think there are 2 interlinked problems

      1. the Zionist interpretation of Jewish history which emphasizes persecution above everything else and is deluded.

      Very interesting article in the FT about how wrong this is explained via the new museum of Jewish history in Warsaw

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      "For, in contrast to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, or Yad Vashem in Jerusalem, the new Warsaw museum is not specifically about the mass murder of Jews in the second world war. In fact, only one of the core exhibition’s eight galleries, which cover a combined area of more than 4,000 sq m, deals with the Holocaust.

      The international historians and museum experts who developed the core exhibition do not skate over the Holocaust – far from it. But their chief purpose is to narrate and celebrate the story of Jewish civilisation in Poland, a story that spans the arrival of Ashkenazi Jews from western and central Europe in the Middle Ages to the rebirth of Jewish communities in contemporary Poland. In this historical sweep the Holocaust, unquestionably the central and most terrifying fact of the story, is treated as one element of a seamless narrative.

      Throughout, the threads of Poland’s Jewish past are intertwined with those of its history as a state in such a way as to make it hard to imagine Polish Jews without their Christian neighbours or vice versa. “We’re trying to show the history of Polish Jews as an integral part of the history of Poland,” says Kirshenblatt-Gimblett."

      2 The Zionist mangling of traditional Jewish morality to focus exclusively on vengeance

      This mirrors what happened in Albania post communism

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      "The Kanun is linked to the religion of blood, of which feuding is just one aspect," he adds. "The law is based on two pillars: fair treatment between men and reciprocity."

      This system did not provide for endless escalation. On the contrary, from the outset it left room for mediation, through the council of the elders. A promise of safety (besa) could be granted to some members of a clan. But tradition has withered away and all that remains is the idea of vengeance. "After the murder," says Ismet's grandfather, Kalter, "I went to the home of the two brothers twice. I told them there was no problem between us and their family. I tried to negotiate but they would not even sit down, as required by custom."

      In 1997 the Lottery uprising, a conflict verging on civil war, erupted following the collapse of various financial pyramid schemes. In the ensuing chaos arms dumps were ransacked, the arms boosting the old patriarchal system. With no effective law enforcement, families resorted to the Kanun.

      Albanian's penal code refers to vendetta as premeditated murder, but the courts are still at a loss to know how to cope with this parallel system of justice. "Families feel entitled to take vengeance," says Përparim Kulluri, the public prosecutor in Shkodër. "We've seen cases where the relations of a victim have given testimony clearing the accused, so that they can settle the score themselves."

      Theoretically under Kanun rules children cannot be touched. "But the old rules have disappeared since the fall of communism," Luani says. "Old conflicts have resurfaced, new ones have started, mainly linked to land ownership rights. There was a case in Shkodër where a man tried to kill a three-year-old."

      The prime minister, Sali Berisha, sees things differently. A native of Tropojë, he thinks the Kanun has its merits. "It acted as a very powerful deterrent imposing incredible self-control. There are very few instances of such feuding, proof that the law of the state prevails,"

      The more the spirit of vengeance contaminates the next generation, the more the Kanun loses its original meaning.

      Zionism is just another lost ideology.

  • Jebreal debunks Netanyahu's 'American values' claim in NYT piece on 'hate policies'
    • Its true Achilles heel is its neediness, I'd say. The need to be loved and understood while exhibiting the worse of its narcissistic nihilism. It's a garrison state that needs the West. It has to balance its cruelty with PR and it's finding that very hard now.
      Because Zionism is fundamentally incoherent.

    • Jebreal is from the same generation as Sayed Kashua and she's even more dangerous because she made a career for herself in a country where being Palestinian does not qualify for platinum pariah status.

      Nothing worse for racists and bigots than a good looking, successful and eloquent pariah who understands that the rules work differently elsewhere where societies are not dysfunctional .

      Israelis are screwing up their lives today

  • Under pretext of restoring calm, Netanyahu government is escalating Israel’s war on Palestinians in Jerusalem
    • Arabic has 2 h sounds as well as kh

      A very earnest explanation of the h's from this guy

    • Palestinians can't be allowed feelings. The only possible avenue to them is to be born evil and join the Khamas to kill Jews for no reason whatsoever because of all that irrational hatred they are born with. Torture is too good for them. And Jews did not leave Europe to be tortured (note to editors)

      Remember that in life Israelis are Israelis but whenever they are killed they become Jews. And killing Jews is not kosher. Only Palestinians are disposable. Because they are born evil.

  • Another New York Times' reporter's son is in the Israeli army
    • Hey Mooser

      Thank you so much for posting that riff of Hello mudda. I hadn't heard the song in years.
      It's so funny. And so apt for camp Kimama and other Zionist indoctrination processes.

      I went over to youtube and found the song with one very interesting comment underneath

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      The sort of nuance you just can't get at AIPAC.

    • Hello Mudda,
      Hello Fadda, Here I am,
      In Camp Hasbara
      I’m getting lots of intensive training!
      Fighting pure anti-Semitism is so draining
      I went hiking with Milikovsky .
      I’d rather be fucked unconscious by a husky .
      You remember Naftali Bennet ?
      He got ptomaine poisoning last night after dinner.
      Ma sha allah

      All the Americans hate the Sabras .
      And the lake has no fish .
      And the head coach wants no Arabs,
      So he reads to us from something called the King’s torah
      Now I don't want this to scare ya,
      But my bunk mate has Ziocainia .
      You remember Jeffrey Goldberg ?
      Very forgettable .
      Take me home.

      Oh Muddah, Fadduh,
      Take me home.
      I hate Givati
      Don't leave me
      Out in the forest where, I might
      Get eaten by a Hezbollati.

    • All the smiles with the guns but when they were losing soldiers by the hour on days in Gaza this summer they didn't know how to react.

      Israel takes soldiers killed pointlessly during lawnmowing very hard.
      Losing a kid to one of bibi's wars of choice is something parents find very tough.

    • Sending an American child to fight in the IDF, where child killing is an art form, is an indictment of parenting more than anything else.

  • UCLA Hillel partners with PR firm to fight BDS movement
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      It must have had something to do with the values of Mr Hillel originally. Based on what I have read he couldn't have been a Likudnik. He must have had thinking parents.

    • What was Hillel before the right wing takeover a la the NRA?

    • They can't control the message with social media bypassing august bot friendly institutions like the NYT where half of the staff have a kid in the Golani brigade.

      Before the net all info went via say 10 gatekeepers. Now there are millions of them and the bots can't cover them at all.

      Gaza is equal to Israel on social media.
      Wallahi. Ma Sha Allah.

    • Stifling dialog. Poor dialog was in chains under the table being kicked by her bot handler.

    • The emperor's new hasbara clothes.
      Dead right, Ned. If PR made a difference it would have worked in august. It didn't.

    • Hillel fighting justice for Palestinians and standing up for torture would be equivalent to what?

      Tupperware parties come out in support of public executions?
      Rotary Club endorse female genital mutilation?
      Professional Golfers Assoc backs ISIS ?

    • "The PR firm 30 Point Strategies has discussed how to combat BDS at the University of California, Los Angeles campus with Hillel staffers there "

      It's not that the bots don't have enough money. I'm sure they had McKinsey or whatever the PR equivalent is at the time of the assault on Gaza over the summer to work out how to win on social media but it tanked.

      It's not about nuance. Israel has lost hearts and minds. "Telegenic dead", remember.

      The FT on what do when faced with a PR clusterfuck

      "It is not complicated. Any half-competent flak knows the drill. Own the bad news. Make sure colleagues and partners are prepared; go public quickly, clearly, and completely; be accountable; be available. Candour is a sign of respect."

      Zionism can't do any of that so it has to depend on PR supoerheroes. #ziofail

  • Resistance is our duty, too
    • Palestinians can't accept. The only option Israel allows them is total surrender. From that pov Zionism is politically and historically naïve.

  • Kerry just snubbed a gov't minister who calls for segregated bus lines. And that's a bad thing?
    • "If these bus-lines are run by the Israeli national government, or by some regional Israeli sub-government, does this make sanctioning Israel as-a-whole (or the Israeli government as a whole) OK? Or does it remove this bus-line from the possibility of sanctions? "

      To paraphrase a line from Natural born Killers, I'd BDS every motherfu5king last one of them

      The only way to stop Zionism is to hit it where it hurts- in the economic gonads. It would be an act of love to save Judaism from itself.

    • amazing when you think of how the Ashkenazi Jews were welcomed to the US in the late 1800s. Lenny Bruce had a very funny riff on Jewish respectability in his Live at Carnegie Hall. The main point as it is for any group is to have some group that you are better than and for the bots it's Palestinians.

    • "all nice and clean around a table, smiling, drinking coffee, so civilized "

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      The exercise underlined both the remarkable pull that Israel holds over American political life, and a neediness on the part of a country that expects not only to be supported financially and diplomatically, but also understood.

      “He said the right things on two levels: he told Israelis how wonderful they are and how much he admires Israel, then in his speech, he painted a nice horizon about Israel and the Palestinians,” said Shlomo Avineri, professor of politics at Hebrew University in Jerusalem.

      Power is just going through the motions, like anyone who does a job solely for the money.

      You can imagine the chit chat, Ya'alon in poor English using Hophmi's talking points and mentioning over and over again how great Jooz are and all his lackeys laughing heartily at poorly delivered jokes and the spirit of Adelson present in the room, spurring on all the participants

    • Rwanda might be a no because the bots have been plámásing Rwanda intensively over the last few years

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      The Yanks may blackmail Jordan which is really struggling economically with the repercussions of the war in Syria.
      Rep of Korea - questionable "Not a no but not quite a yes"

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      France and the UK could break ranks as the bot magic wears off

      these votes will be less predictable as time goes on and Zionism becomes increasingly clear as the nihilism cult it is

    • Chomsky always seems to be worried about frightening the Zionist horses.
      Ya'alon and co are big enough to understand they risks they run.

  • Israeli army kills 14-year old Palestinian with U.S. citizenship
    • "When I first discovered 12 years ago what was going re the US-Israel and I/P I was shocked to the core. "

      I had a similar awakening. I couldn't believe how the media reported the story and it started me thinking that other issues were probably no different.

    • Whataboutery won't solve anything. The enemy is not Gaza. It's the system that indoctrinates jews to run the occupation, the one that runs the wars and denies everyone their shared humanity.

    • It's interesting how the media spin American deaths. Say the Dept of Defense wanted a war in the Middle East for oil and an American was murdered . It would be all over Fox

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      But say it's an ally of the US that does the killing

      Fox won't say anything.

      It seems to depend on how the American is killed and whether or not the killing is videoed

  • Thousands attend funeral for Palestinian-American child killed by Israeli army
    • They are skilled enough to aim properly. They choose to shoot to kill.
      It doesn't work. They can't extinguish the Palestinian spirit and Judaism isn't strong enough to resist the evil.

    • The people who threw Mr. Klinghoffer into the sea knew Zionism would still be murdering their people with impunity long into the future . It's a pity nobody did anything about it.

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