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I wonder where the struggle between universal human rights and - “A Jew is by the nature of his creation a purer being. Similarly with the holiness of the land: The soil of Israel is essentially holier, the stones are holier because the land was destined by God to serve as the place of the Children of Israel” is headed "Either we are all sacred or none of us is" Paul Fourhorns Tenoso

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  • Federal agencies express concerns about Israel's entry into the Visa Waiver Program
  • Peter Beinart misses South Africa's apartheid lesson, Gideon Levy gets it
    • Haaretz ed.

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      "Releasing the prisoners is completely unconnected to the fundamental discussion on the future relations between Israel and Palestine. Presenting it as a new condition is misleading, as U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry has clarified. At the same time, defining Israel’s borders should not depend on other agreements. Delineating the borders will clearly demarcate the settlements that will be part of Israel, pave the way to setting Jerusalem’s borders, grant the Palestinians the territorial framework of their state, limit the Israeli messianic dream and pour real content into the two-state idea.
      A discussion and agreement on the borders issue would not infringe on the principle that “nothing is agreed until everything is agreed,” because the parties can stipulate that any agreement on the borders will be subject to a comprehensive arrangement.

      Abbas’ statement is far from being a display of rejectionism. But the deep frustration over the absence of progress in the talks, and Israel’s rejection of the Palestinian demands, could lead Abbas to dismantle the Palestinian Authority and hand the keys over to Israel.

      This, not the possibility of another intifada, is the threat underlying the negotiations’ failure – placing direct operative responsibility for the territories on Israel. In addition to the massive financial burden and the security hurdles of direct occupation, it would turn Israel into a target for international sanctions.

      Abbas’ demands are reasonable and will constitute a test to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s seriousness."

    • "Israel, as I’ve argued repeatedly, is not an apartheid state. If it were, Ahmed Tibi would be in jail, not in the Knesset."

      Sheikh Yassin is dead . Barghouti is in prison. Jews have their own roads.
      Triangulation is so hard with facts.

    • Entropy is going to hit Yossi Israeli very hard

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      "In a press conference earlier in the day with Israeli journalists in Ramallah, Abbas said the renewal of talks must be based on two principles: First, the release of the fourth group of prisoners, as this is a move already committed to by Israel. The 30 prisoners to be released to their homes will include 14 Arabs Israelis. According to Abbas, any new condition such as deporting the prisoners would be considered a breach of the agreement.

      The second principle is immediate discussion on the question of borders, to be conducted over a period of three months. Throughout this period the sides will focus solely on determining the border, and it will be accompanied by a full freeze of settlement construction. Abbas laid down the same conditions in a meeting with Labor and Meretz MKs in Ramallah last week.

      Speaking at a press briefing, [bot] officials said the conditions presented by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas “mean that he is not interested in peace,” adding that “a person who wants peace does not present conditions time after time that he knows Israel cannot accept.” "

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      "Under pressure from pro-Palestinian BDS activists, a prominent British photography gallery has canceled the Israeli embassy in London's co-sponsorship of its exhibit opening Tuesday. The Stills gallery in Edinburgh, Scotland returned the 1,300 British pounds that the embassy had contributed to the show. "

  • Father of photographer critically wounded at West Bank protest: 'This is life under occupation'
    • This is life under the boot of the only Jewish state in the world.
      This is not the revelation of scripture. It's far too inept and grubbily human for that.

  • Max Blumenthal's guilt by association – with Jewish ethics
    • She is very impressive. Went there in 2000, compared what she saw to what she knew from the MSM and got working.

      Israel is unsustainable.

  • How many 'Palestinian Arabs' want to kill 'all Jews?'
    • Yonah

      From the Gaza perspective Protocols-style accusations are not without foundation. Read Alison Weir's book on the US influence on the foundation of Israel. What did Palestine have to do with the Shoah ?

      Israel uses Hamas rhetoric as an excuse to continue the pauperization of Gaza. Not particularly tikkun olam.
      Says more about Zionism than any speech in Congress or invocation of "Shalom."

  • Obama and Kerry are spurred by 'vainglory' in pursuing talks -- Finkelstein
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      "U.S. Department of State spokeswoman Jen Psaki warned Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas on Monday against dissolving the Palestinian Authority, saying “those kinds of extreme measures would have grave implications” on the relationship between the U.S. and the Palestinians.

      “A great effort has been made in the last few years to build Palestinian institutions, including with U.S. financial aid,” she said. “Dissolving the Palestinian Authority is not in the interest of the Palestinians … and will have implications on our relationship and our assistance.” "

  • No rescue!
    • None of the religions are ready for the end of oil and climate change.
      Israel was a neat idea made possible by oil. It has no hope of surviving without oil.

  • 'Like the NRA, AIPAC sows fear in the halls of Congress' -- Dem consultant
  • Tensions rise on Temple Mount as rightwing Jews seek to hold Passover rituals there
    • The Zionist jews angling to get a red heifer up there live in a feudal world. Most American Jews do not. The ongoing tension between reason and superstition promises to be fascinating,

  • 'Israel is the home of all Jews,' declares a right-wing official
    • Homeland" claims typically go with landgrabs and aggressive nationalism. "Chez nous" is far less obnoxious, far less insecure. Zionism still hasn't convinced the world of its justness.

    • Not in the zionist context of 2 millennia, puppies. Turkey doesn't claim Central Asia as its homeland.

    • Ancestral homeland is such a crock. Nobody else uses it. Home of all the Jews. I thought there were more in Galut. Perhaps that is g-d's message.

  • Mark Halperin excommunicates Rand Paul, over Israel
    • There is little consistency of opinion between the plutocrats who fund the politicians and the masses who vote. The GOP learnt that last time around. Libertarianism is not going to win over undecideds, neither is Israel.

    • Israel is not going to win the GOP enough votes to make a difference. It is not up there with jobs. It doesn't put food on the table.

  • Reports of anti-Semitism in Ukraine and Hungary
    • Jobbik is an odious party and clearly antisemitic. Using this to get jews to israel is wrong. Israel is a mess. I suppose Jobbik could channel hoph and say the world is not perfect. That is the problem with institutionalised bigotry. The bedfellows.

    • Minority rights tend to be well protected in the OECD, other than in Israel.

  • Palestinian youth say the talks with Israel are futile
    • Back in 2000 it was possible to travel from Ram Allah to East J in servees taxis in 15 minutes. Zionism then entered the terminal stage and started on the walls. It's a chronic condition, like motor neurone disease.
      The Palestinians live alongside the patient and are healthy. Sometimes Zionism tells them it is not sick but they have learnt to smile and politely agree while wondering why those American Jews don't take responsibilithy for the patient.

  • Stephen Walt: publishing 'Israel lobby' ended any thought of serving in US gov't
    • Taking on Zionism is career toxic. It is far more complicated than it should be. Zionism is just another dud ideology. It is not going anywhere.

      Walt is one of so many who have had their options reduced by the bots. I imagine they have a lot of silent enemies in the US waiting for the tide to turn.

  • Haaretz joins Rush Limbaugh and company in trying to link Max Blumenthal to KC shooter suspect
    • I can understand why Rosenberg gets ratty. Zionism is the only thing between certainty and the abyss. It is going to be excruciating for ordinary jews to realise that the goodwill generated post WW2 was blown on a deluded messianic project and all for nothing. Rabbis are going to have to tell their congregations that the return to zion was a flop and that praying for it is pointless. Rosenberg is naturally concerned about his people losing power. It is far less traumatic in the short term to hope problems blow over and critics are nuts.

    • Haaretz have now implicated Jesus in the murder, citing the killer's familiarity with the new testament. Gutenberg has also been vilified.

    • I think the Zionists overestimate the leverage power of anti-Semitism to protect their ideology of hatred.

    • I kept mine, Krauss

      It's a sans pareil view of the Israel psyche. Will be unmissable in the breakdown.

  • Updated: Remote-control gun installed atop wall near Bethlehem -- Ma'an
    • I don't imagine any of the holy books mentioned the high doses of ongoing violence necessary to facilitate the return to zion. It needs a lot more than just milk and honey . Very grubby in reality. Imagine marrying a supermodel and discovering she had a prediliction for domestic violence.

      It looks like the real thing
      It tastes like the real thing
      My fake plastic zion.

    • Jews murdered Nazis who occupied Poland in the 40s too. The Nazis claimed to be revenants just like you. They also used violence instead of reason. Didn't work out long term either. Economics were faulty. Watch out for BDS.

  • Friedman prepares American Jews for a divorce from zealot Israel
    • Friedman's damascene conversion is rather late in the day. I can't help thinking it flowed from the implications of the failure in Iraq. Some kind of reverse suck.

    • The wall was a landgrab born in a different era. Zionism thought history had ended and Zionism was forever. It hasn't and it isn't.

    • Hebron will be returned to reality. So will East Jerusalem.
      The Zionist psychotic phase is not sustainable.
      Galut can destroy Zionism as necessary. Bond run, baby.

    • "You did not go to Summer school with" Is Code for "they are hopelessly boorish hebrew only provincial arseholes who do not take instruction from metropolitan brahmins such as myself ".

  • On Easter week, Shaath says millions of Palestinians are denied access to Jerusalem
    • Haram al Sharif plus death squad

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      Zionism's holiest of holies is sacred violence.

      Note Israel still doesn't have a building to match the elegance of what came before.

    • Interesting video from Galway in Ireland where the local university voted heavily in favour of BDS recently . The bots must have been desperate to link BDS to anti-Semitism.

      Check out the poster at 47 seconds

      Does anyone have examples of university posters used by the bots in the fight against BDS? Not even Einstein could stop it in Galway

      Meanwhile the fall of Zionism is going to be absolutely brutal when the realization comes to the hard core bots in the US.

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      "In his recent book on global anti-Semitism, “The Devil That Never Dies,” Daniel Jonah Goldhagen observed that America is the one if not only country outside of Israel where an openly Jewish life is possible, where wearing a yarmulke is not a bull’s eye and where children can be dropped off at Jewish schools with absolute assurance that they will return at the end of the day. "
      "The Jews of Europe, Latin America and even Canada have lots to worry about. Hopefully they managed to get through their seders in peace. To read, “Next Year in Jerusalem” at an American Passover table is not an urgent rallying cry but rather a proposed vacation spot. Taken even at their worst, the ADL’s numbers are still statistically, and gratifyingly, small.

      Yet, three Christians who were welcomed into the Kansas City Jewish community were luckless decoys for what were allegedly Miller’s intended targets. At such despairing moments that reveal the limitations and false promises of the Exodus, it is not unreasonable to add a plaintive fifth question to the Haggadah, one that will arguably never lose its meaning or become obsolete: When it comes to hatred, why always us? "

      Why are 2 million Jews incarcerated in the US prison system ? Why always them ?
      Why are Jews shot in Arizona by Minutemen ? Why always them ?
      Why have 20,000 Jews drowned off the coasts of the EU trying to reach Europe in the last 10 years? Why always them?

  • Fear of Arab-Americans in the public square
    • I think BDS worries bots because it has the potential to reduce the Zionist influence in public affairs. Zionists get a lot of bang for their demographic buck and this is not a long term given.
      Most of the media mouths who currently shill for Israel could easily be replaced by more up to date people.

    • Global warming/climate change

    • "Joseph Epstein wrote that the WASP establishment put up a white flag without a shot being fired."

      Sounds a bit over the top. Elites constantly change stance but hold onto their money. Big deal if they rented out some space to a few Hebrews. I imagine the same WASP families own a lot of those Hampton properties 50 years later.

      What Jews did with their new found influence was rather mediocre in the bigger picture. Israel is not going to make it.
      Late capitalism is prone to seizures as well.
      And climate change is coming up on the near side.

  • Palestinians can have an embassy in Jerusalem, but God forbid not a capital -- Israeli mayor
    • How many Palestinians were allowed to stay in Rehavia, habibi?
      The only village left intact after the Jews took over was Abu Ghosh.
      Ethnic cleansing is the spark plug of Zionism.
      There were no accusations of blood soaked matzos in Ottoman Jerusalem.

    • The DNA of the city is tolerance. Zionism is a deluded interlude.
      They have poured concrete everywhere but they still don't understand Jerusalem.

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