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"Either we are all sacred or none of us is" - Paul Fourhorns Tenoso http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2014/nov/20/gaza-murderous-melodrama/ "One has to bear in mind that Israelis live in a largely mythic world, a somewhat modified and vastly simplified version of the Iliad. In this starkly polarized vision of reality, in which Israelis are by definition innocent victims of dark, irrational forces operating against them, heroic death in war always makes sense, and violent coercion is the option both of necessity and of choice. The Hebrew proverb says: “If force doesn’t work, use more force.” jon s November 16, 2014, 6:56 am "Hophmi, for participating in efforts to promote Jewish-Muslim understanding , is ridiculed, while Max and David , for spreading lies and promoting hatred , are to be admired." I just think Judaism needs to get back to that justice setting.

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  • WSJ columnist says 'I'm almost grateful' for attack on kosher supermarket that killed four
    • Anti- Semitism is very like the boy who cried wolf at this stage.

      Zionism calls Wolf Blitzer but that's different.
      Crying anti-Semitism over disgust at what Israel did to Gaza last summer is very stupid.

      The power of the anti-Semitism meme only applies where rights are respected and justice trumps force. If Israel won't play by the rules then anti-Semitism is severely devalued.

      Does the Torah say anything about how dangerous hypocrisy is ?

    • 14000 letters over 10 years to the Israeli embassy

      I wonder how many letters the Russian embassy got in the 90s about Chechnya. Just saying.

      How many ot the 14000 were anti Zionist ? and how many genuinely anti-Semitic ?

      Are we supposed to accept what Israel does to Gaza because if we don't it may be construed as anti-Semitic ?

    • "Arfi said that in France antisemitism had become “a portmanteau for a lot of angry people: radical Muslims, alienated youths from immigrant families, the far right, the far left -"

      No mention of political economy and who is expected to shoulder the burden of falling income and reform. The more the economic situation looks like the 1930s, the more likely that politics will.

      Capital vs Labor is brutal.

    • "Bret Stephens, the Wall Street Journal columnist, says he was “almost grateful” for the attack on the kosher supermarket in Paris in January in which four Jews were killed because it demonstrated that Europe has a problem with anti-Semitism" -

      That's like a special burnt offering. Thanks to the 4 for dying so the WSJ can get a column out. Taking one for the team. Selfless.

      These right wing notions that the rich world is a vacuum with no link to anywhere else are nuts. If 3 Muslims are killed in the US it's a lone wolf gunman with no system implications but if 4 Jews die in Europe there is an anti-Semitism crisis

      I suppose this article is part of the US right/left echo chamber series.

    • I thought they were related to the Parsis

  • Cornel West joins boycott of Univ. of Illinois Urbana-Champaign over Salaita firing
  • Israeli voters not impressed by Netanyahu's speech to Congress
    • "On Iran he said, “I think it is a bad country.” "

      They obviously know very little about Rumi in Israel. The cost of prioritizing the IDF over education is huge. Israel is so sad .

    • In the last election she supported the center candidate Yair Lapid who vowed to reduce the cost of living in Israel. Following two years of his tenure as economic minister and prices rising in Israel, Nachman is disillusioned, “He promised a lot of things and never did anything,” she said. -

  • Over one quarter of Netanyahu’s speech to Congress consisted of applause and standing ovations
    • I think Zionism has gone as far as it can and that the speech was proof that it has run out of ideas. There was something of the pantomime about it.

  • Media are stunned by Congress's 'loyalty' to Netanyahu (but refuse to explain it)
    • I don't know what Dermer looks like, Annie. Maybe it is him

      I just don't think he's as good as his predecessor.
      He's like the guy who always wanted to play for the dream team and when he made it found out that the team had declined .

      I could watch that video for days. All the lies.
      and they did trash Iraq. and people are still dying.

      And they whine about existential threats.

      If real war ever comes to Israel- if half the population is forced into refugee camps and Jewish teenage girls are sold into prostitution by their families and boys are sent to fight rather than be educated- maybe we'd see some perspective. But not now. They still think war is fun.

      link to youtube.com

      40 minutes. Hans Dietrich Genscher became German Foreign Minister.

    • "If someone 100 miles from your city threatened you, and those dear to you, with annihilation… would you just sit back and listen to people 7,000 miles away, tell you to shut up and mind your own business? "

      If someone went further and agitated to destroy your country and made sure it happened ...

      Zionist whining is peerless.

    • Maybe, Elisabeth

      It's not a good mix.

    • Amigo

      When Dick and Jane figure out what dajooz have been doing it won't be as Hoppy says it will be.
      The system is rotten. It would be better to dismantle it now while the going is good.

    • The losers in Congress remind me of poor Abu Zubaydah who was tortured beyond sanity by the CIA. Menendez would prolly vote Israel for nothing.

      link to theguardian.com

      "The report suggests Abu Zubaydah was a broken man after his extensive interrogations. In CIA documents he is described as having become so compliant that “when the interrogator raised his eyebrows” he would walk to the “water table” and sit down. The interrogator only had to snap his fingers twice for Abu Zabaydah to lie down, ready for water-boarding, the report says."

      “At times Abu Zubaydah was described as ‘hysterical’ and ‘distressed to the level that he was unable effectively to communicate’. Waterboarding sessions ‘resulted in immediate fluid intake and involuntary leg, chest and arm spasms’ and ‘hysterical pleas’. In at least one waterboarding session, Abu Zubaydah ‘became completely unresponsive, with bubbles rising through his open, full mouth’ ... Abu Zubaydah remained unresponsive until medical intervention, when he regained consciousness and ‘expelled copious amounts of liquid’.”

      Another group who are broken to the point where they accept their fate is young prostitutes in Asia. The process is known as seasoning

      link to hist-chron.com

      Abu Zubaydah, Asian prostitutes and virtually the entire population of the US Congress, in theory amongst the most powerful people in the world - who woulda thunk ?

    • Jewish plutocrat money is the great unmentionable. Just watch the football or Bruce Jenner's transformation , kids. Do not look at the money.

  • Israeli soldiers set attack dogs on teen -- 'Bite him' -- and rightwing politician cheers
    • Very good questions, mooser. Those ancient Jews didn't even have meat thermometers, you know. So how could the offerings count ?

    • Hoppy might be salvageable, Mooser, with a suitable muzzle. But he would need a strict owner and walks daily. Humping the hasbara table by its legs is becoming less and less socially acceptable, even amongst Hillel groups on campus.

    • They always come for the Jews. Maybe Ben Ari works for them.

  • Factchecking Netanyahu: An annotated guide to the Israeli P.M.'s speech to Congress
    • Jezebel is a great name.

    • There was no point to the speech. It was more showbiz than anything else.

    • It's election kabuki at the end of the day. Like an elite language with flowery phrasing that says very little. Bibi talks the big man talk but he's not going to attack iran. He needs something to get reelected so he'll use this PR to go in front of the people.

      If the heat comes early to Israel in the summer and Yossi Israeli feels the testosterone rising along with the stress in the hazy midafternoons with the wind off the sea that isn't cool enough maybe Bibi will launch another turkey shoot in Gaza. That is about it.

      And Judaism is so lost to be led by such a clown

      The WTF quotient is so high

      link to judaicawebstore.com

  • Pelosi blasts Netanyahu speech as 'insult to intelligence of U.S.', Amanpour calls it 'dark, Strangelovian'
    • The Holocaust prop who supports mass murder in Gaza.
      I think Anne Frank would have been better as a representative of the 1940s, not a sociopath.

    • Haaretz on message with the Iranians

      link to haaretz.com

      ""All things considered, today's Haaretz Editorial takes Netanyahu to task for failing to mention the one thing that endangers Israel's ability to survive as a Jewish and democratic state: the unending occupation of the territories."

    • Israelis are basically normal regular people in the eyes of Freedland. The education system is no different to that in the UK, except that it isn't. And Bibi and the settlers are a small problem that the good sabras will defeat whenever they feel like getting the finger out.
      Except the settlers won years ago and the situation continues to deteriorate and it's all going to hell in a handbasket.

    • If they love Bibi why did they vote Obama in 2012 ?
      Adelson is wasting his money.

    • The thing about the Persians is they have always had a polity and continuity, unlike the Jews who left the house for a snack (gefilte fisch) and only returned 2000 years later.

      This is the big weakness of Zionism- prime real estate on a busy junction, very hard to hold onto - they couldn't do it in the Bronze age and they probably won't be able to do it going forward either.

    • Is that Vladimir Purim?

    • Ed Luce in the FT - great title BTW

      "Bibi’s misleading Congress clapometer"

      link to ft.com

      "If you measure Benjamin Netanyahu’s performance by the applause, his speech to the US Congress hit the mark. Judged by its outcome, Bibi’s audacity may look very different in hindsight. The Israeli prime minister’s address, which broke precedent on how to treat a senior ally, marked a nadir in his already terrible relations with President Barack Obama. Mr Netanyahu was clearly looking to 2017 when Mr Obama steps down. He was also hoping to boost his own re-election prospects later this month. But his speech paid little heed to longer-term concerns about Israel’s waning clout in Washington DC.
      No lobby group can match the reputation of the American Israeli Public Affairs Committee. Yet Aipac’s influence has declined since Mr Netanyahu regained his job in 2009. To judge by the absence of more than 50 Democratic lawmakers on Tuesday, the speech is unlikely to reverse that. One measure of Aipac’s clout is the number of US lawmakers who attend its annual conference, which Mr Netanyahu addressed on Monday. On some issues, such as opposition to Palestinian statehood, it can garner the signatures of three quarters of Congress within 48 hours.

      But Aipac’s recent batting average is far less impressive. Mr Netanyahu’s speech, which called for Congress to enact a fresh layer of sanctions that would sabotage Mr Obama’s Iran nuclear talks, offers a clear test of Aipac’s influence. The group has been lobbying for the sanctions bill for more than a year. Mr Obama and John Kerry, secretary of state, have so far persuaded Congress to hold off until the outcome of the Iran talks is known. The final deadline is June. Following Mr Netanyahu’s speech, Congress looks less likely to pull the plug than before.

      Jewish voters ignored Mr Netanyahu’s support for Mitt Romney in 2012’s presidential election. 70% voted for Mr Obama.

      But in most cases Aipac’s view prevailed. That is no longer a given. Big majorities of US public opinion support Mr Obama’s efforts to reach a deal with Iran. Large majorities also oppose new Israeli settlements in the occupied territories. US Jewish voters ignored Mr Netanyahu’s support for Mitt Romney in 2012’s presidential election.

      Jewish Americans have as complex reasons for their votes as anyone else. But Mr Obama appears to have a better grasp of their mood than Mr Netanyahu."

    • I think I was Goldberg. His IDF concentration camp guard's uniform was tragically fireproof.

    • Every Democrat who showed their face there should be shamed and then fired at the ballot box when the time comes.

      link to ft.com

      Postjudice
      " Regrettably for US democracy, this is a circular matter. As the recent cover story in New Yorker showed in a detailed account, only billionaires are capable today of financing a political campaign (such as required to run for Congress). Everyone else needs a deep-pocketed support. Three or four best organized lobbies have mastered the art of peddling the cheques, in exchange for post-electoral services. And the Supreme Court has confirmed the legality of this process. The organization mentioned in this article belongs to this elite group of deciders. The voters themselves have nothing much to say as this is not, strictly speaking, a 'partisan' issue, but a structural deficiency of the electoral system. Hence the deferential monologues, which we hear from the Hill on anything touching upon guns in the streets or 'existential threat to Israel', remain at variance to the views espoused by a large proportion of the nation's voters."

    • link to slate.com
      "Rep. Jan Schakowsky, a liberal Illinois Democrat, suggested Netanyahu’s credibility is suspect because he also backed the 2003 war in Iraq.
      “What I heard today felt to me like an effort to stampede the United States into war once again,” she said.
      Another Democrat compared Netanyahu to George W. Bush’s former vice president. “This speech was straight out of the Dick Cheney playbook,” said Kentucky Rep. John Yarmuth. “It was fear-mongering at its ultimate.”
      Yarmuth also said that Netanyahu’s requests were akin to those of a small child looking to visit an amusement park.

      “Prime Minister Netanyahu basically said that the only acceptable deal was a perfect deal, or an ideal deal,” Yarmuth said. “It’s like the child that says, I want to go to Disneyland every day, eat ice cream and drink Coca-Cola every day, and not go to school.”"

    • I wouldn't be so down, Jenin. Zionism has entered the nonsense stage.
      All the pols are only there for the money.

      Powerful, thuglike, cruel and hated lobbies with no grassroots support fall like this :

      link to theguardian.com

    • link to theguardian.com

      "Reflecting the criticism of Obama and senior US officials, Michael Oren, former Israeli ambassador to the US now running for office, conceded that while Netanyahu gave a “powerful” speech to he “did not offer any new ideas.”"

      The beauty of speaking directly to the Hebrew people from the seat of global power for your election campaign is that you don't need new ideas. You just tap into the trauma vein using the same old tired canards and do the dog whistles and those people will vote Likud as sure as the IDF is a colonial police force.

    • I would love to know what young liberal US Jews think of the speech.

    • Poor Israel. It has gone to war against egypt, palestine, syria , lebanon and jordan , bombed iraq and lives by the sword. It is run by a military junta. It has 6 million indoctrinated jews and it is afraid. Maybe violence is the wrong way.

    • You have to hand it to the bots. They have pauperised the Palestinians and run regular turkey shoots in Gaza. They have the 4th largest military in the world and they are still paranoid.

      This is the incoherence of eternal victimhood/unlimited military power

  • Why Iran is not and has never been Israel’s #1 enemy
    • Maybe the Israeli elite, Mooser, but Yossi Israeli is sick

    • Amigo

      For the bots the sort of allies Iran has are unattainable.
      Maybe it's because the Ashkenazis came from Poland. The Union of borscht eaters doesn't have any other branches in the Levant.

    • I think it's worse than that, Walid. The King of the Jews translated mainstream hebrew discourse into English in DC and it is basically nonsense .

    • Israel's #1 enemy is trauma. It is like a brain parasite that exposes the country to massive risk.

    • Syria (Alawi), iraq (shia), Lebanon (shia -hezb) and afghanistan.

    • link to blogs.ft.com

      CNN is quoting a White House Official as slamming down Mr Netanyahu's speech switfly and firmly:

      All style and no substance. Not one new idea.

    • link to twitter.com

      Leader of the country with the Middle East's only nuclear arsenal just referred to threat of a "nuclearized Middle East".

      link to twitter.com
      Edward Luce @EdwardGLuce
      · 21m 21 minutes ago
      "Bibi leaves Obama no choice but to respond. He has accused US president of trying to empower anti-Semites with nucl weapons. #unbelievable"

      More like #fuckinginsane

    • "As expected, Netanyahu made a reference to the Jewish feast of Purim, which begins on Wednesday evening. The holiday commemorates the attempt by Haman, the Persian viceroy “to destroy the Jewish people”, in Netanyahu's telling, until he was vanquished by the wily Jewish Queen Esther.
      Netanyahu says:

      “Today the Jewish people face the threat from another persian potentate to destroy us.""

      He should be sedated and put in a secure psychiatric facility. As should all Zionists.
      Just get the trauma out of them and start over.

      If they got their war against Iran who would take over as public enemy #1? Pakistan ?

      link to twitter.com Luce @EdwardGLuce
      · 27m 27 minutes ago
      Not much nuance here. Hard to paint the world in a more Manichaean light than Bibi is doing.

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  • Netanyahu's quick stop in East Jerusalem before heading to Washington
    • It's not a mission from god. There's no music

      Adelson has no rhythm

    • He did snub Durbin and Feinstein.
      He thinks he is untouchable.

    • link to ft.com

      "Two senior Democratic senators with strong ties to Israel, Dianne Feinstein and Dick Durbin, invited the Israeli leader to a private meeting with Democratic politicians while he visited Washington. However, Mr Netanyahu declined, saying it would “compound the misperception of partisanship”.

      Mr Durbin said the meeting could have “balanced the politically divisive invitation” from the speaker. “His refusal to meet is disappointing to those of us who have stood by Israel for decades,” he said. "

      Milikovsky can pray to the Wall but there is no magic in the real world.

      Wall wall on the mirror, who is the most insane of them all?
      And the Wall says gnomically- look at yourself

  • Bipartisanship is dead, as Netanyahu, AIPAC, and GOP square off against Obama over Iran
    • Bintbiba

      Here is another one for you

      Israel is where spirits get eaten

    • It won't endure, Hops. Israel needs to replenish the dopey population that buys the AIPAC shtick to replace all the old Israel forever pensioners who are dying off.
      And the kids don't seem to be interested. It's not rational to paint Ernie, Bert and Big Bird as mortal enemies of the Jewish people and a lot of pre schoolers can see through it.

    • And hasbara is a joke. Too much exposure, no new material.

    • The FT is blogging it

      link to blogs.ft.com

      Likud is already using Netanyahu’s defiance of Washington, which strategists apparently calculate is a right-wing vote-getter, in campaign ads.

      In one internet spot released at the weekend, the party likened the speech to a decision in 1967 by Levi Eshkol, then prime minister, to launch a preemptive strike on Arab states over the White House’s objections, beginning the Six Day War.

      “Would we still be here today if Levi Eshkol had not done the right thing?” the video asked. “Only Likud. Only Netanyahu.”

      Eshkol was Labor. And there was no threat in 67 either.
      Likud speaking to their doped populace.

    • Mooser

      Israel doesn't actually have any official eastern borders.
      It doesn't have a constitution either.
      And it annexed East Jerusalem in 1980. But nobody recognized it.

      Asherpat's point about Gaza not being occupied is BS. Gaza is Israel's bitch and Israel beats her up every so often especially if other men look at her.

    • Taxi

      Here's an exclusive preview of the speech, only for those with inside information, sponsored by AIPAC and eternal persecution R us .

    • 'Afwan.

      I just can't align Zionism with reality as I see it. It doesn't go with any music I know.
      It's all messed up psychically. I never met a Zionist who was coherent either.
      There is no sense to it.

    • Walid

      Until Zionism falls over. I wouldn't like to put a timescale on it but it could happen quickly given the economic context .

    • link to ft.com

      "[The planned speech] injected a degree of partisanship, which is not only unfortunate, I think it’s destructive of the fabric of the relationship
      - Susan Rice, US national security adviser"

      The same Rice who drank the Zionist Kool aid at the UN

      This time is too far for Zionism.

      Remember Dornbusch's law

      “The crisis takes a much longer time coming than you think, and then it happens much faster than you would have thought.”

    • Things are really bad in the US

      link to ft.com

      "Regrettably for US democracy, this is a circular matter. As the recent cover story in New Yorker showed in a detailed account, only billionaires are capable today of financing a political campaign (such as required to run for Congress). Everyone else needs a deep-pocketed support. Three or four best organized lobbies have mastered the art of peddling the cheques, in exchange for post-electoral services. And the Supreme Court has confirmed the legality of this process. The organization mentioned in this article belongs to this elite group of deciders. The voters themselves have nothing much to say as this is not, strictly speaking, a 'partisan' issue, but a structural deficiency of the electoral system. Hence the deferential monologues, which we hear from the Hill on anything touching upon guns in the streets or 'existential threat to Israel', remain at variance to the views espoused by a large proportion of the nation's voters.

      DonWilliams 3 hours ago
      @Postjudice @chris field
      Concur. And we are not talking about people buying favorable regulations or tax advantages --we are talking about selling the lives of US soldiers. "

      As if proof is required


      and
      link to washingtonpost.com

      America is broken too

      Try listening to "Calling all angels" while watching the Netanyahu video from 2002 calling for war in Iraq and remember the people of Iraq and Syria and the families of the dead soldiers of the United States.

    • link to ft.com

      The White House urged Benjamin Netanyahu to keep confidential details about negotiations with Iran under wraps as it sought to undermine the Israeli leader’s much anticipated speech to Congress.
      The Israeli leader is expected to use his speech on Tuesday to warn against a possible nuclear deal with Iran that he believes “could threaten the survival of Israel”.
      In a series of interventions hours before the speech, the Obama administration pushed back against Mr Netanyahu’s efforts to lobby Congress over its nuclear diplomacy with Iran."

      But the crème de la crème

      "The days when the Jewish people were passive in the face of threats to annihilate us — those days are over
      - Benjamin Netanyahu, Israeli prime minister"

      Trauma central.

      And of course Gaza is supposed to be passive because Israel knows what is good for it.

      Plus some great comments underneath the article

      ad iudicium

      "Mr Netanyahu's personal history of infidelity, three wives plus a number of mistresses, are factual indications of an agressive, unstable, over-testosteroned personality who has spear-headed a great decline in the international standing of a wonderful nation. His zealous drive of the illegal expansion of the settlements has greatly hurt Isreal's standing in the world.

      What a loss to Isreal was the assassination of that wonderful person Yitzhak Rabin. Likud, led by Netanyahu at the time, were just too small-minded, unvisionary to see what the Oslo Accords offered and look at the countless lives, Israeli and Arab, mothers and children that have been lost in the interim for which this current Prime Minister should bow his head in shame, not looking for the next bit of skirt that he can track "

      Gidimeister
      "Israel's power over America is awe-inspiring. Truly something to see. For a non-US citizen it is pretty hard to understand."

      Lord Marco
      "Netanyahu is a delusional man who has mortally wounded his own country. "

      Jack Armstrong
      "AIPAC is toxic."

    • Sah, Walid

      The problem is the system, not the leader.
      Apartheid is a system, not a person.

      It'll fall apart and it'll be very traumatic for everyone who thought it was forever.

    • President seeks to head off Israeli prime minister’s criticism of Iran nuclear talks, declaring freeze on weapons program far better than sanctions or military action

      link to theguardian.com

      This is really interesting. It's like a parent trying to reason with a child who's way too tired and thinks there is a monster under the bed. Israel vs reality

    • You can, Hoppy. Justice for brown people.

    • American politicians will repeat that Power bromide right up until the moment when it becomes necessary to shaft Israel. Because states don't have friends.

    • The echo chamber effect in US media was described recently in the FT

      link to ft.com
      "Conservatives remain consumed by issues such as the Keystone oil pipeline and the US response to the 2012 terrorist attack on our consulate in Benghazi, Libya. Liberals fuss about the richest “1 per cent” of the population and the “militarisation” of local police forces"

      So now Israel is a Fox topic...very interesting. Up there with guns and "freedom " and Benghazi.

      link to nybooks.com

      "Capitalist utopianism and unqualified loathing for all that remains of the welfare state are the dispositions that now unite the Republican Party from the bottom up. "

      Doesn't sound very Jewish, really-unless Jewish means only people with more than 10 million in liquid assets

  • Rightwing rabbi seeks to pit Power against Rice on Iran ahead of AIPAC speeches
    • Mooser

      Jewish gore doesn't seem to be as popular as it was in the 60s.
      Fashion is really cruel.

    • My exposure to America's arsehole Shmuley is limited to this site but he always seems to be photographed with the same people, the genocide gang. And poor Power has to hang out with them as part of her job, apparently.

  • Netanyahu's speech and the American Jewish condition
    • Bornajoo

      Yonah would never swap his gilded victim Jew status for life as a Puthirai Vannar in Tamil Nadu . Ever. Because he knows it's bollocks. It's so hard having a middle class job in finance in the West. the suffering is unimaginable.

      Haslam reports that, according to some Dalit activists, the psychology behind the caste system "is rooted in the Hindu scriptures, the Rig Veda and the writings of Manu. These are derogatory about Dalits, teaching that the Brahmin came from God's head, the Kshatriya from his arms, the Vaisya his thighs and the Sudra his feet. Dalits do not figure and are therefore sub-human and polluted." The fact is that, at the time of the scriptures, there were only four castes. All these were like parts of a human body, working together for the common good and all equally important. Over the following centuries the caste system came to be abused, and a fifth class of people - the Dalits - were identified.

      link to archive.tehelka.com

      "Meet the Puthirai Vannars, the dhobis for the dalits of Tamil Nadu. A community that’s been suffering in silence for ages, in perpetual bondage to the dalits, and living in isolation as ‘outcastes’ on the fringes of dalit colonies. Denied human rights and self-respect, there is no political leader or party or democratic institution to speak up for them in this big democracy that is India. Condemned and mute, for centuries, they have been washing the clothes of the dalits, giving them haircuts, slaughtering dead cattle, and doing other menial jobs. To this day, they wash the bloodstained clothes of dalit women in labour, and the clothes of dalit girls who attain puberty. Worse, till a few decades ago, they were shunned as ‘unseeables’. It was a curse to even ‘look’ at them. In those days, the Vannars had to complete their work in the night and stay out of sight of the other castes in the daytime. If they ventured out during the day, they had to tie a coconut leaf to their body, which they pulled along wherever they went. The frond swept the ground and wiped out their footmarks. They could not even spit on the ground as the others did so routinely. Instead, they had to spit into a halved coconut shell, which hung from their necks. “This horrible practice had been in vogue for hundreds of years. It was the Justice Party that enacted a law abolishing it in 1932. Once declared illegal, the practice slowly faded out,” says TM Prakash, a social activist working among Puthirai Vannars in the dalit-dominated Tiruvannamalai district. Not much headway has been made after that landmark social reform. Today, an estimated two million people from this community are living in the state. “Though we are found in most districts, about 50 percent of the population lives in Virudhunagar, Villupuram and Tiruvannamalai districts. Our people are slaves of the dalits — to the Parayars in northern districts, to the Pallars in southern districts, and to the Arunthathiyars in western districts,” says SB Udhaya Kumar of Ramnad, an upcoming leader from the community. There is of course the daily allowance — again in kind. It is the traditional practice of Puthirai Vannars to go around the dalit homes, every morning and evening, begging for food. Rosamma from Cuddalore says, “We cry out standing outside the dalit houses, ‘amma, soru podunga amma’ (amma, please give some food.) They give us leftover food which we collect in a vessel.” For many, it’s a daily khichdi meal — of leftover food from dalit houses. Though in some villages this shameful practice has finally ended, in many others the tradition still continues. ” link to archive.tehelka.com “If given a choice, most Puthirai Vannar families would like to put an end to the practice of begging for food. They long for the day when they can cook at home, for it would give them a sense of self-dignity. But dalits don’t allow them to cook. The reason is not far to seek. When the Vannars beg for food, it destroys their self-worth. The tradition perpetuates the slave mentality, pre-empts and crushes a rebellious spirit. “It’s worse than the slavery that existed in the West,” says Professor A. Sivasubramanian, currently doing research on the community. “People bought the slaves there. To a certain extent, they were looked after well because the owners had to suffer losses if they fell sick or died. But the Vannars have no such advantages. Dalits treat them just as slaves but refuse to take their responsibility in terms of welfare.” In most ways, this social oppression is the mirror image of how dalits are treated by the upper castes all over India. Till date, in many villages, the Vannars cannot sit in front of a dalit. They are not allowed to take water from their street taps. “When there is a death in a dalit house, we have to perform special duties. We prepare the dead body and make the padai (burial cast). As people walk to the crematorium, we are required to spread sarees on the ground before them to walk on it. After the rituals are completed, we sit down wearing a white dhoti and the mourners drop coins on it,” says Santhappan of Velankani Nagar in Tiruvannamalai district. According to another tradition, the Vannars are required to carry the ‘theepantham’ (a flaming torch) during wedding processions. There is fire in their hand, and darkness within. Those defying this ancient heirarchy are repressed ruthlessly. There have been instances when Vannars in some villages have refused to beg for food. But they have either been forced to fall in line or driven out of the village. Rosamma of Elanthapet village in Cuddalore district decided to stop this daily house-to-house begging for food, and instead started cooking food at home. But she was forced to go back after direct threats from dalits. “They forced me to eat the leftover food,” she says. About two years ago, in Athanur in Villupuram district, a man was forced to eat leftover food by a dalit family. When he refused to eat, they chased him out of the village. The diktat is clear. If you are born a Vannar, you are destined for a predetermined way of life. Live as your ancestors did. Have no dreams or aspirations. Die everyday.” :"

      But Jewish suffering is obviously worse than this because it is a block of Jewish identity - therefore it must be.

    • Tree

      Israel reminds me of northern Ireland. Colonialism and dispossession plus trauma. In the case of ulster protestants it was the 1641 uprising. Continually beaten into children via education.

      Defining a sense of victimhood and fueling bigotry. Fear as the glue that holds a dysfunctional society together.

      link to northernrenaissance.org

      The Israeli education system is the same. the memes of persecution. Only the IDF can save us from the next holocaust. we have to kill as many as possible.

      Danon is Sephardi- look how he has swallowed the shoah kool aid

      A rational population couldn't take those memes seriously.
      And Hebrew is Israel's vector.

      Finkelstein's mother and father taught him something that most Israeli jewish kids never get.

      link to youtube.com

    • "when your (hidden) ethnic group have skated through history, fooey on you. "

      The thirty years war was a delight for Germans. The Irish really needed that famine. the Chinese learnt a lot from that Great leap forward. Africans wouldn't be where
      they are today without slavery. Aborigines really benefited from genocide. But the Jews have suffered so much. More than any other people.

      Pull the other one , Yonah

    • Hoppy

      It's not just Jews but when the system crashes again for the big kahuna of neoliberalism what side are the bots going to be on ?

    • The angle that Phil didn't mention is finance. The last 4 heads of the Fed have been Jewish.
      1 dollar out of every four earned in the US goes to the top 0.1%. Many of the big hedge fund managers who pay themselves tens of millions are Jewish. There is a lot of rent seeking going on and money gets shunted over to Israel and anyone who says anything gets their career destroyed. It's not just Jews who are creaming it but there are enough who do.

      Meanwhile ordinary Americans haven't got pay rises for years. Labor repression is real.
      And the financial system will probably crash again shortly

    • Tree

      There is something about Holocaust trauma and Jewish otherness that mixed and produced what we see now. It is not just trauma although trauma is important in explaining what it is.

      Compare the Armenians or the Cambodians to the Zionists and I think the otherness is a key input in the dysfunction.

      Also Jews and power- they don't seem to know how to use it sustainably.

    • "It turns out that Jewish establishment behavior can be just as nauseating as the Rockefeller establishment was in its day."

      Or as sickening as Tammany Hall. None of them last. Overreach.

      How much weight, how much weight and they get too smug and they lose their touch and then it's too late

      link to youtube.com

    • Trauma drives how people receive information, Tree. And the more serious group traumas such as war can take generations to work themselves through a population.

      Many memes of Zionism are built around imminent annihilation. It suits the military industry and keeps the money flowing to the IDF instead of education, for example. It has kept YESHA going despite the insanity of the project.

      link to theguardian.com

      "Despite the terrible feelings of rejection a teenager might experience, one day they may be able to understand their parents’ point of view. If they are strict and inflexible – unable to move with the times or accept anything other than their values – this is probably the result of trauma: either their own trauma or transgenerational trauma – trauma passed on to them by their parents.

      When we are not traumatised, we can live fluidly in the present, responding to situations as they arise. But when traumatised, people stick to strict rules and codes, as though living in emergency mode, and they are fearful of deviating from these. So when they see their children being very different from them, they panic. In their belief system, to deviate from the rule book is to be cast out. And to be cast out is to be unsafe, and possibly to die. They are worried because they cannot imagine accepting you as you want to be, cannot imagine that it would be possible for you to be accepted anywhere. They may even fear that because you are different, they will no longer be accepted by their community"

      link to haaretz.com
      "The range of individual Israeli responses is vast. As a society, though, Israel shows the classic symptoms of post-traumatic stress: Being constantly alert for the next danger, which will be perceived as the original, overwhelming danger. Not only does the screech of a motorcycle sometimes sound like an air-raid siren, the instant response to a barrage of rockets is instinctually that we are threatened with annihilation, that we are once again utterly alone in the world, and that force is the only solution.
      This is one reason, not the only one, that the Israelis who most emphasize Jewish victimhood are often the ones who are most certain that we can only solve our problems militarily. You can't reach arrangements with Nazis - so goes the thinking, sometimes explicit, sometimes implied - you have to defeat them totally.
      A 2009 Israeli election campaign video that has recently begun spreading online demonstrates such thinking: It shows Netanyahu standing in Ashkelon, where a missile fired from Gaza had fallen that morning. "We need action," he proclaims. And the only effective action is "to shatter the Hamas regime in Gaza." His opponent, Tzipi Livni, was part of the Kadimah government that failed to do so in Operation Cast Lead, he says, "but we will finish the job." It's all so simple: Just unleash the army.

      Netanyahu lives the dual fantasy of helplessness and unlimited power more than any Israeli politician since Menachem Begin. While Begin personally escaped the Holocaust, Netanyahu embodies second-hand trauma. "It's 1938 and Iran is Germany," summed up his perception of our enemies, between whom he refuses to make distinctions. His military threats against Iran expressed the hubris that is the opposite pole of the fantasy. Netanyahu's contradictory tone of perpetual fear and overconfidence has resonated with a large piece of the Israeli public. He speaks what they feel. ."


      That second article by Gorenberg is really on the money.

      The mix of Shoah, 70 years of Zionist propaganda and OMG intermarriage must drive people over the edge.

    • IF Palestinians don't have justice Israelis don't deserve security

  • It's not about nukes, it's about the US shifting the power balance -- Parsi
    • The Iraqi army is impossibly corrupt.
      The Shia regime in Iraq just takes money out of the country and kills Sunnis who get uppity.

      Daesh last year was all about momentum and the soldiers were defending a bigoted Shia government that did nothing for the Sunni minority north of Baghdad. Popular local support for
      the govt was very low,. Throw in ex Baathists in Daesh and it all makes sense.

      The political issue is how to come to a settlement that recognizes Sunni rights.

    • The US recently brought Cuba in from the cold, much to the chagrin of older Cuban Americans who hate the Castros. But time has moved on and Cuba needs economic growth after the Venezuelans got hit by the fall in the price of oil and business is business.

      Maybe Iran will be the same. With the bots as the equivalent of those old hate drenched but bypassed Cuban Americans

  • Hillel's segregated lunch counter
    • Nice try hoppy but you'll have to do better. Why does the ADL have 2 personalities, one Jekyll, the other Hyde ?

      link to youtube.com

      Bad news keeps comin', hard to keep somethin' on your stomach
      Your sick 'bout what ya life is becomin'
      But your use-to's has-beens raggin' bad 'bout all the new dudes
      Talking tough on the Youtube
      'Bout what you use to do but that's old school to the new crew
      They doin' numbers like Sudoku

      There're the new you and it's damn near inevitable
      They'll experience deja vu too
      Fight and you'll never survive, run and you'll never escape
      So just fall from grace, damn

    • “Forcing aboriginal people to move from their communities is a form of cultural genocide,” says Tammy Solonec of Amnesty International Australia.

      So is what Israel is doing in Gaza. And we are supposed to accept it because it's good for Jews?

    • Hillel was hijacked by right wing extremists with money just like the NRA was in the 60s. Every single nationwide major Jewish org has been infiltrated by Zionists and corrupted. What is the point of an Anti Defamation League that stands behind the torture of children or a Hillel, (named after a Jewish "saint" known for his erudition, wisdom and goodness) that supports carpet bombing ?

    • "However, those who support a boycott don’t have a moral leg to stand on when they demand to be heard."

      FFS
      Israel kills children to keep the status quo going and people don't have the right to call for boycott because it is "immoral". Are you for real? What is moral about blowing up mothers in the name of security for Jews ?

      Israel is completely unsustainable. Boycott is an effort to save what can be saved before it all blow up.

  • Thanks to Netanyahu, Israel support turns into a political football
    • It looks as though it may be a developing into a nice momentum if you include everything in the universities, on social media, regarding Protective Edge, even MJR's Damascus conversion

      They have very little popular support in the US. They are a court operation , they need darkness to thrive and now they are exposed in the open. So many enemies. Money can't buy everything . And they are so hubristic.

      Lots of chickens awaiting roosting instructions.

    • David Bromwich in the NY Review on that 29 ovation Milikovsky speech in 2011

      link to nybooks.com

      "Only a fraction of Obama’s May 19 speech was allotted to Israel and the creation of a Palestinian state. Yet the concrete language of that part—which contained names and dates, if not numbers—drew immediate and heated comment. The most controversial sentence was doubtless this: “The dream of a Jewish and democratic state cannot be fulfilled with permanent occupation.” It was a plain statement of an obvious truth. Obama, in addition, said that the shape of a Palestinian state would be based on the 1967 borders of Israel, only altered in accordance with “mutually agreed [land] swaps.”
      This had been the common understanding and phraseology of American-Israeli-Palestinian discussions over two decades; but in the past several years, the word “1967” was used less than before; and this became the detail Benjamin Netanyahu seized upon. Immediately after the speech, he issued a statement in Jerusalem that the 1967 borders of Israel were “indefensible.” He repeated the same objection after he met with Obama in the White House. The differences between the two leaders were played out once more in their speeches to the annual AIPAC convention.
      Without backing down, Obama explained the meaning of his reference to 1967: the borders of course would not stay the same, but land swaps would offset the differences. This candor, on the occasions when Obama shows it, is an impressive quality, and it seemed to be appreciated even by the AIPAC audience. Besides, on May 19 he conceded most of what Netanyahu could have asked. He alluded to Gaza only once. He offered no criticism of new Israeli settlements, as he had done in Cairo two years ago, and made no mention of the dispossession of Palestinians on the West Bank.
      From his silence on these points, it was clear that after the failure of the most recent shuttle diplomacy and the resignation of George Mitchell on May 13, Obama personally planned to initiate no further negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians. He trusted that under the visible pressure of an Arab Spring of their own, now gathering on both sides of Israel’s borders, most Israelis would eventually see his words as a kindly prophecy.
      Netanyahu struck back as if Obama had mounted a deliberate assault with a threat of lasting enmity. Yet Netanyahu’s speech to AIPAC was emollient compared to his speech to Congress on May 24. There he made a conquest that can have few precedents. He began with brash familiarity, in a backslapping salute to Joe Biden; spoke with boyish humor about his early years as a diplomat within the Beltway, and his knowledge of an America beyond it; reestablished, with passion and simplicity, the close ties between America and Israel that Obama had sought to view with an impartial loyalty; in short, pulled out all the stops to undercut President Obama on his native ground. The speech itself was a tissue of clichés, anecdotes, and half-truths, but delivered with dramatic buoyancy and urgency as if his life depended on it.

      Congress gave Netanyahu twenty-nine standing ovations. How did he do it? By presenting himself to his audience as an all-but-American politician—one less lucky than they, and more brave, a leader with a fight on his hands; a real fight, in his own backyard and not six thousand miles away. He spoke with gusto of his part in an earlier episode of that never-ending war:

      I was nearly killed in a firefight inside the Suez Canal—I mean that literally: inside the Suez Canal. I was going down to the bottom, with a forty-pound pack, ammunition pack on my back, and somebody reached out to grab me and they’re still looking for the guy who did such a stupid thing.

      Netanyahu did not speak of the subsidized increase of Israeli settlements that accounts for the “certain facts on the ground” he had mentioned at the White House. He invoked the biblical names of Judea and Samaria as if they were as natural to modern Israel as St. Louis is to the state of Missouri. And Congress loved him, or seemed to think it should, from the very moment when he said in a flattering exordium: “Congratulations America. Congratulations, Mr. President. You got bin Laden. Good riddance!” The performance combined the maximum of demagogy with the maximum of smarm, and it mixed aggression, paternalism, and a preening collective self-love, in proportions that Netanyahu assumed Americans would be comforted by. Israel, this speech said, has everything in common with America. We are the home of freedom and wisdom among the ancients, just as you Americans are among the moderns.

      Netanyahu’s speech to Congress was also part of a larger strategy of his right-wing coalition. He got his invitation to address Congress from Eric Cantor, the House majority leader, and the Republican Party is now working to detach Jewish donors from the Democrats and to convert Republicans at large to the Likud and neoconservative politics that support a greater Israel. In the pitch offered to Americans, taking sections of the West Bank from Palestinians is as warranted as the taking of lands from American Indians. Mike Huckabee has indicated his sympathy with this point of view. Sarah Palin wore a Star of David on her necklace in her recent liberty tour. Glenn Beck has planned a mass event, “Restoring Courage,” on August 24 at the Southern Wall excavations in the city of Jerusalem. Americans of the chauvinist and evangelical right are being invited to think of Israel as a second homeland.
      Considered as a response to this predicament, Obama’s speech at the State Department, with its broad-gauge pronouncements and its candor regarding Palestine, was utterly overmatched by Netanyahu’s speech to Congress. It is an unhappy fact of politics that victory goes to the pressure that will not let up. Netanyahu’s belief in his immoderate purpose is stronger than Obama’s belief in his moderate purpose."

      Milikovsky is a wild motherfucker and deserves whatever the Dems may have in store for him.

      the bigger picture is what's brewing on the US economy

      Bromwich again

      link to nybooks.com

      "Capitalist utopianism and unqualified loathing for all that remains of the welfare state are the dispositions that now unite the Republican Party from the bottom up. George Orwell wrote in The Road to Wigan Pier that while it might be too much to hope for economic equality, he liked the idea of a world where the richest man was only ten times richer than the poorest. Bertrand Russell in Freedom versus Organization wrote that since money is a form of power, a high degree of economic inequality is not compatible with political democracy. Those statements did not seem radical seventy years ago. Today no national politician would dare assent to either."

      If the Fed can't get inflation back to 2% the GOP is going to be eviscerated.

    • It's great to see the ZOA turning on the odious Abe Foxman in public for being too soft on Iran .
      All this dirty laundry airing and infighting from the bastards who have destroyed so many careers- where is the discipline? Where is the self control ?

      link to youtube.com

      Netanyahu is such a creature of the night as well.

  • Oxfam says Gaza reconstruction will take a century to complete due to Israeli blockade
    • Indeed. I wish they could control what is going on so the worst doesn't come to the worst but Zionism seems to be much stronger than reason.

    • Gaza won't last another 100 years

      Does anyone want to rule out a perfect storm of anti-Semitism developing ?

      1. Gazan society breaks down completely- people start dying of avoidable diseases because Israel has destroyed the water system

      2. Dick and Jane start joining the dots on Zionist money in the US political system (Yes, the NRA does it too but the NRA doesn't run a program like Gaza)

      3. The Fed can't get inflation going in the US because Wall St is taking too much money out for bonuses - one of the big banks fails and we're back to Lehman Bros and a major crash in the financial system .

      Zionism is running serious risks now.

    • "Israel alone is not the driver of Palestinian suffering "

      Israelis run the occupation. Pottery barn rule, I'm afraid.
      link to en.wikipedia.org

      2000 years in exile and gd brought the people back to erez Israel but he forgot to give them a sense of responsibility for their actions. Very remiss of gd.

  • What we talk about when we talk about ISIS
    • link to monthlyreview.org

      "the Western powers (the United States and its subaltern European allies) have made their choice: they have given preferential support to the Muslim Brotherhood and/or other “Salafist” organizations of political Islam. The reason for that is simple and obvious: these reactionary political forces accept exercising their power within globalized neoliberalism (and thus abandoning any prospect for social justice and national independence). That is the sole objective pursued by the imperialist powers.

      Consequently, political Islam’s program belongs to the type of fascism found in dependent societies. In fact, it shares with all forms of fascism two fundamental characteristics: (1) the absence of a challenge to the essential aspects of the capitalist order (and in this context this amounts to not challenging the model of lumpen development connected to the spread of globalized neoliberal capitalism); and (2) the choice of anti-democratic, police-state forms of political management (such as the prohibition of parties and organizations, and forced Islamization of morals).

      The anti-democratic option of the imperialist powers (which gives the lie to the pro-democratic rhetoric found in the flood of propaganda to which we are subjected), then, accepts the possible “excesses” of the Islamic regimes in question. Like other types of fascism and for the same reasons, these excesses are inscribed in the “genes” of their modes of thought: unquestioned submission to leaders, fanatic valorization of adherence to the state religion, and the formation of shock forces used to impose submission. In fact, and this can be seen already, the “Islamist” program makes progress only in the context of a civil war (between, among others, Sunnis and Shias) and results in nothing other than permanent chaos. This type of Islamist power is, then, the guarantee that the societies in question will remain absolutely incapable of asserting themselves on the world scene. It is clear that a declining United States has given up on getting something better—a stable and submissive local government—in favor of this “second best.”"

  • White House says Netanyahu offers no alternative but military action (and Liz Warren won't say if she's attending speech)
    • Yeah Mooser but the kids aren't interested.
      She's had her youth and it isn't coming back.

      And she's a metaphor for Zionism too.
      A facelift won't do any more.

    • Mads can't fight the culture that only values women in their early 20s as sexually interesting. She has to fight the aging of her body in public. Not easy even with oodles of money.

    • "Netanyahu comes to town and upbraids the president saying that what Obama wants won’t happen"

      too high
      too far
      too soon
      (too self referential )

    • and threats of violence/career destruction

      Thugs in suits. Tammany Hall 2.0.

    • I feel sorry for Madonna. She's 56 and it's a business for perky 22 year olds.
      She's very talented but she will do anything for attention. She reminds me of that other lost soul, Demi Moore.

      The Zionists probably tell her she's still
      as good as she was in the 80s. She's like them now.

    • Zionists don't do atonement. They continue whining.

      Israel hasn't reached its nadir yet although many people think things can't get any worse.

    • Warren may get very interesting if the Fed can't raise interest rates and deflation takes over.
      Wall St is expecting labor to get wage increases that will generate inflation that would allow interest rates to be raised

      But the income gains all go to the top 1%.

      link to washingtonpost.com

      link to monthlyreview.org

      "By 2010, the labor share of the bottom 99 percent of taxpayers had fallen to approximately 50 percent from just above 60 percent prior to the 1980s.”43 In other words, including the compensation of the highest paid people—literally, the top 1 percent—adds enough to national labor compensation to skew the data for the entire labor force and make it appear that the declining share of the economy going to labor is not really that dramatic. This makes sense when we consider that in 2012 the top 1 percent took home an income estimated at eighty cents to “almost a dollar out of every $4 generated by the American economy.”

      She gave an interesting speech last month

      link to youtube.com

      link to ft.com

      "A wonkish former Harvard law professor and career-long consumer advocate, Ms Warren’s push to break up the big US banks appeals to the large swath of voters who believe financial institutions were never truly reined in after the crisis.
      The rhetoric she used on the floor of the Senate during the spending bill debate, and in particular the vitriol she aimed at Citi, which she has frequently attacked over its links to Capitol Hill, was typical of the message she has used on the stump and on the Senate banking committee.
      “Washington already works really well for the billionaires and big corporations and the lawyers and lobbyists,” Ms Warren said. “But what about the families who lost their homes or their jobs or their retirement savings the last time Citi bet big on derivatives and lost? What about the families who are living paycheck to paycheck and saw their tax dollars go to bail Citi out just six years ago?”"

      The financial sector is way out of touch with ordinary Americans given the level of rent seeking

      link to ft.com
      "Blackstone founder Stephen Schwarzman landed himself in deep trouble a couple of years ago when he compared US efforts to raise taxes on private equity to the Nazis. “It’s like when Hitler invaded Poland in 1939,” he said.
      Venture capitalist Tom Perkins, founder of Kleiner Perkins Caufield and Byers, provoked a similar outcry earlier this year with a letter to the Wall Street Journal that compared criticism of the wealthy to Nazi persecution of the Jews. Both men eventually apologised."

      The system might well blow up in the next few years. I think it's a debt trap.

      If it does and if it is the Democrats will have no choice but to dump Wall St. And that will be the end of Zionism.

  • From Brooklyn to Palestine: A thank you note to Palestinian and Middle Eastern sisters who re-educated me on my world view
    • Suheir Hammad vs Scarlett Johansen
      in the world championship of cool

      It's a walkover for Palestine.

    • How Ferguson became Ferguson

      link to epi.org

      "In the early 1950s, St. Louis began construction of the Pruitt-Igoe towers and other high-rises to house the African American poor. Pruitt had been intended for blacks and Igoe for whites, but by the time the projects opened in 1955–56, few whites were still interested in urban public housing; there were so many inexpensive options for them in south St. Louis and in the suburbs. Igoe then filled with black families as well.26
      By the 1960s, Pruitt-Igoe became a national symbol of dysfunctional public housing, high-rise towers packed with welfare-dependent families, frequently headed by single mothers. Youth gang activity was pervasive. The Housing Authority’s neglect of maintenance and facilities exacerbated matters. The Pruitt-Igoe vertical ghettos discredited the entire national public housing program, giving the lie to Senator Douglas’s promise that it would be in the “best interests of the Negro race that we carry through” with a segregated housing program. The combination of deteriorating social conditions and public disinvestment made life in the projects so untenable that the federal government evicted all residents and dynamited the 33 towers, beginning in 1972.27"

  • New DC bus ad takes on the special relationship on eve of Netanyahu’s address to Congress
    • they had a very good run over 60 years and they got lazy, they didn't upgrade their hasbara, they got complacent- that's life

  • Banksy goes to Gaza
    • Israel is a car crash, Vera. It's up there with the GOP as the manifestation of short termist pointless self destructive venality

    • Inshallah innit

    • Hey Bintbiba

      I found another quote that explains why I am not Charlie and why I love Falastin

      link to ft.com

      "Soul is indigenous, it needs to grow out of its own ground"

      Israel has no soul. It sold it all for military superiority.

      link to youtube.com

      And the land is still Palestinian regardless of the concrete.

      The olive trees feed the soul. The soul thrives on helping people, not killing them.

  • Leading NY institutions discuss the Nakba -- and there is not a Palestinian in sight
    • Ethnic cleansing was used extensively after ww2 to set Europe into mostly homogenous populations. Germans were shunted into Germany, Poles were sent West, Ukrainians got eastern Poland. Everyone had a country. Stalin was a bastard.

      Didn't justify what Israel did.
      1948 is still toxic.
      And it makes Israel less secure even now.

  • Right-wing bomb thrower David Horowitz behind anti-SJP posters
  • Kerry says Netanyahu was wrong the last time he pushed war for the U.S.
    • Prez O'Bama may be waiting for them to manoeuvre themselves into a noose between him and the American people. There is no point in wasting capital trying to neutralize them when hubris will do it anyway.

    • Kerry video

      Remember all the mangled and broken American soldiers

      link to washingtonpost.com

      "The common perception of Walter Reed is of a surgical hospital that shines as the crown jewel of military medicine. But 5 1/2 years of sustained combat have transformed the venerable 113-acre institution into something else entirely -- a holding ground for physically and psychologically damaged outpatients. Almost 700 of them -- the majority soldiers, with some Marines -- have been released from hospital beds but still need treatment or are awaiting bureaucratic decisions before being discharged or returned to active duty.
      They suffer from brain injuries, severed arms and legs, organ and back damage, and various degrees of post-traumatic stress. Their legions have grown so exponentially -- they outnumber hospital patients at Walter Reed 17 to 1 -- that they take up every available bed on post and spill into dozens of nearby hotels and apartments leased by the Army. The average stay is 10 months, but some have been stuck there for as long as two years.
      Not all of the quarters are as bleak as Duncan's, but the despair of Building 18 symbolizes a larger problem in Walter Reed's treatment of the wounded, according to dozens of soldiers, family members, veterans aid groups, and current and former Walter Reed staff members interviewed by two Washington Post reporters, who spent more than four months visiting the outpatient world without the knowledge or permission of Walter Reed officials. Many agreed to be quoted by name; others said they feared Army retribution if they complained publicly.
      While the hospital is a place of scrubbed-down order and daily miracles, with medical advances saving more soldiers than ever, the outpatients in the Other Walter Reed encounter a messy bureaucratic battlefield nearly as chaotic as the real battlefields they faced overseas.
      On the worst days, soldiers say they feel like they are living a chapter of "Catch-22." The wounded manage other wounded. Soldiers dealing with psychological disorders of their own have been put in charge of others at risk of suicide.
      Disengaged clerks, unqualified platoon sergeants and overworked case managers fumble with simple needs: feeding soldiers' families who are close to poverty, replacing a uniform ripped off by medics in the desert sand or helping a brain-damaged soldier remember his next appointment. "

      Remember everything that Zionism has done to help them.

    • It didn't even wear the sheepskin last summer, Walid.
      JStreet is as real as the Kardashians.

    • He has a real Boston accent as well.

    • The CSPAN video is fascinating. Milikovsky said he would like to see regime change in Iraq.
      And was it worth it , bibi? All the rapes, all the dead children, all the killing?

      He also told the Yanks that Saddam was developing nuclear weapons

      What an asshole

  • Israel gives out 'security Oscars' at the UN to Iran, Hezbollah, Saudi Arabia and PA
    • Taxi

      The Kiev government made a lot of mistakes after the previous PM was deposed. Putin played them like a musical instrument.
      But longer term Russia won't be able to give Eastern Ukraine much economically.
      The country is a basket case. It exports women as prostitutes. Corruption is world class.
      It needs a Marshall plan to get back on its feet.

    • I think Ukraine, Syria, Egypt and Libya are all reverberations of the global financial crisis. They are all on the periphery of Europe, are not core countries and the financial shocks from 2008 on pushed them over the edge. Things like food prices and remittances and debt levels. Ukraine fell apart over corruption and a bankrupt state. Maybe the Yanks are involved but the chaos has other parents.

    • Ukraine is a mess. I can't believe anyone in DC planned it.

      link to ft.com

      “Then the Russians invaded,” one soldier from the unit told the Financial Times, clutching his charred and swollen fingers.Dozens of unmarked tanks, armoured personnel carriers, missile launchers and military trucks, he said, appeared on the road from the border. The unit suddenly faced not just the rebels but regular Russian troops, and artillery barrages from inside Russia that turned the area into what another survivor called a “furnace, pure hell”.
      When rumours spread that Chechen mercenaries – with a reputation for torturing captives – would follow in a “clean-up” operation, what remained of the Ukrainian unit panicked.“Some of our boys shot themselves in the head, right in front of me,” said the soldier, asking not to be identified as he was not authorised to speak to the press. “Others dropped their weapons and fled on foot, chased through the fields. A handful of us were lucky to get out alive.”

      The propaganda in the Russian media is nuts too.

      link to ft.com

      “Although they claim to be fighting against Nazis” – who, according to Russian propaganda, have taken over Kiev – “they are themselves like a light version of the Nazis,” Mr Potekhin said. “They’re driven to extreme violence by Russian nationalist views, hatred, and intolerance of all western culture, homosexuals, and Catholics.
      “The effect of brainwashing by Russian television is more serious than I could ever have imagined.”

  • Israel turns off power to hundreds of thousands of Palestinians in the dead of winter
    • I don't think it'll be karma as much as disgust.

      Johan Cruyff
      link to theguardian.com

      “It’s like everything in football – and life. You need to look, you need to think, you need to move, you need to find space, you need to help others. It’s very simple in the end.”

      Zionism is doomed . And Cruyff could NEVER have been a Zionist.

  • Israel has granted refugee status to 0.07% of African asylum seekers
    • "Protesters also called Israelis who defend the refugees “whores,” and a man in video footage taken by David Sheen can be seen shouting, in English, “F*ck you motherf*cker, piece of sh*t. Go back to Africa. We hate you as much as we can. Go back to Africa.”

      This should be made known to everyone at AIPAC 2015

      Such a lovely place, Israel.

    • "Is the zionist state racist? Is the pope catholic?"

      Do bears shit in the Vatican ?

      Akiva Orr is very interesting on the subject of the Jewish state
      It becomes incoherent very quickly . Especially regarding Ruffheisen

    • This is all going to be remembered in the future. There is no point in Jews remembering the exile if they don't help those now in exile.

  • Al Jazeera publishes leaked intelligence files showing Netanyahu lied about Iranian nuclear threat
  • Israel's new Asian allies
    • Chinese people, born in a country that went through the Japanese invasion, civil war, the cultural revolution and the insanity of Maoism are hardly going to bow down before the logic of Zionism.

    • Israel is an aircraft carrier of the West in the Eastern Med.
      It can't coherently turn its back on the US and think China is an adequate replacement.
      It will have to take its sanctions medicine and see it as part of God's plan for straying from the path of righteousness.

      link to youtube.com

      The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  • No matter who wins the Israeli elections, Palestinians lose
    • So the ad says "it's us or him" and the people in Gaza ask what is the difference.

    • Lysias

      Not fully. The main driver seems to be deflation in Japan and Europe. When markets stop growing asset prices can fall rapidly. Oil markets had built in a lot of growth in oil demand and now that it is falling the prices fall by a lot more. Saudi and the US may want to hurt Iran and Russia but there is more to it than just that.

    • That photo of Zippy tries to make her look serious.
      Dangle some Gaza blood in front of her and she flashes her teeth and her eyes start to bulge.

    • “”To boycott Israel because of its policies and because Israel wants to defend itself is not only anti-Zionist… it’s 21st century anti-Semitism,” MK Ayelet Shaked tells Haaretz, adding that she believes that boycotting Israel “should be illegal.” -

      Boycotting injustice is always legal.
      Mr Boycott was a brutal landlord.

      and the bots have destroyed the Palestinian economy- is that supposed to be kosher ? Do prayers in Israel serve any purpose whatsoever given the injustice of the system ?

    • Maybe Gd is punishing the oil majors now with the price down by 50%, Just.

    • I think no matter who wins the Israeli elections Israelis lose. Risk buildups are not noticed by most people but when they strike they are deadly.

      Dornbusch’s law, baby

      “The crisis takes a much longer time coming than you think, and then it happens much faster than you would have thought.”

      Even to chosen people. Worse than a 10 million pound sludge from Noo York and Noo Jersey

  • Inflammatory posters at UCLA call Students for Justice in Palestine 'Jew haters' (Updated)
    • Relatives of sick family members are targeted by the Shin Bet to turn informer. And people wonder why Israeli Jews are hated.

  • Ten year old Palestinian boy attacked by settlers and abducted by Israeli soldiers while playing in the snow in Hebron
    • The manner in which they use law exclusively to feed the Jewish sense of victimhood while ignoring any semblance of justice.
      It's a sick ideology.

    • It doesn't matter, Just ,if the deceased isn't Jewish . Not under Lawfare

      link to ft.com

      "The Palestinian Authority and the Palestine Liberation Organisation have been ordered to pay $218.5m in damages after a New York court found them liable for six terrorist attacks in Israel, marking another win under a US antiterrorism law covering American victims of overseas attacks.

      A US District Court jury on Monday found in favour of 10 US families who sued the Palestinian groups in 2004 for attacks that killed 33 people and wounded hundreds from 2002 to 2004."

      Imagine how much Protective Edge would cost Israel in a level playing field.

    • The land is beautiful even if the bots have fucked it up for so long.
      As long as Palestinians eat khubz in Falastin the bots can't win.

      I was reading this amazing book the other day

      link to kennys.ie

      It's about Irish ghosts. And I was wondering where the Jewish ghosts are. They are not in the Middle East.

    • "We can only imagine the shock when the family learned of Major Adraee’s Facebook posting showing their beloved relative accepting water from a soldier, knowing she was executed around the time of the photograph being taken.
      "

      Zionist scum. From Day 1

  • Racism is in the air: Video showing racist exchange between Israelis and a flight attendant goes viral
    • Annie is right to say that Israel is a racist society that feeds off violence.
      I'll go further and say

      -it's a deeply dysfunctional society run on the principle that might is right.

      -Zionism is untreated trauma.
      -Israeli Jews are ignorant loudmouths in the main.
      -And aliyah is the wrong word.

    • That's why the Zionist lady is a tramp

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