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I wonder where the struggle between universal human rights and - “A Jew is by the nature of his creation a purer being. Similarly with the holiness of the land: The soil of Israel is essentially holier, the stones are holier because the land was destined by God to serve as the place of the Children of Israel” is headed "Either we are all sacred or none of us is" Paul Fourhorns Tenoso

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  • Israel cracks down on American travel to West Bank by requiring tourists to obtain military permit
    • They can cut off the territories from galut but what is the point?
      They no longer control the narrative.

      As an example, I type 'na' , Android suggests Nakba. Suck on it, Zionism,

  • Another 'NYT' piece buys Israel's al-Dura report-- which PA spox calls 'fantastical' racist propaganda
    • Kershner is potentially looking at a career toilet flush moment. The report is BS khaalis. Signing it off is suicidal given the way hasbara is deteriorating. No uk hack would sign off a report stating that pedophile Jimmy Savile was actually framed.

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  • There's been a sea change in US opinion on the conflict
    • Great post Pamela.
      The hasbara is dying and they have nothing to reach out to decent people with.

  • Former AIPAC lobbyist assumes weighty mantle (and travel budget) of US Special Envoy on anti-Semitism
    • "Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, and denying Israel the right to exist"

      Israel has no right to exist without the rights of Palestinians to determine their own future. Nobody needs the Jewish Sparta.

    • I hope he goes after the bigots in the furry hats who are persecuting the women of the wall.

  • Both Massad, and 'Open Zion', ignore the experience of Middle Eastern Jews
    • "What the article misses is the larger history of Jewish life in the Arab-Muslim world and some articulation of the glorious culture that it produced."

      Traded in for some beads and an IDF uniform. Son became a Betar fan.
      Would have been better off staying in Morocco.

  • Widely denounced as 'propaganda,' Israel's report on al-Dura calls attention to 950 other child killings
    • And to say they killed just one is a blood libel according to Israel.

    • Imagine the nyt covering a 36 pager by the klan saying rodney king was never beaten and it was all a black plot to discredit the LAPD. Or Kershner stenographing that Matthew Shepherd made it all up for the purposes of dissing heteros and that he is still alive.

    • Imagine Iran stating that Anne Frank never died. Imagine the nukes.

    • Johnny Rotten with Leftfield, mid 90s, on such crap as this report

      link to youtube.com

      "You lied
      You faked
      You cheated
      You changed the stakes
      Magnet toss that pie in the sky
      Unrehearsed let the bubbles burst
      All in all a three-ring circus
      Of unity with parody tragedy or comedy
      Probably publicity "

      A new media low for Zionism. And it has the seal of the State of Israel and all.

  • New York City Council official urges Brooklyn College to hire 'professor from Israel'
  • Israeli report on al-Dura case is vengeful and 'surreal,' says Haaretz -- but 'NYT' treats it as gospel
    • "The report is entirely speculation. "

      It's like a Fox broadcast about how there is no such thing as global warming and it's all a liberal fantasy. Say it enough times in Hebrew and the child never died.

      Very interesting to see the low bar required for publication by the state of Israel.

    • One of the comments under the FT piece

      Harald Buchmann | March 25 11:46am | Permalink

      "I wonder if she also expounds on the psyche of a people that sends all of their youth to 2 years of military service, with high likeliness of actually killing people. Those traumatized youth then often go travelling after the service, and unload all over the world. Talk to hostel-owners anywhere about Israeli customer and you get extremely negative feedback."

    • As his father said they demolished the walls around Netzarim to remove the evidence.
      This case is proof that they want to make their own reality. It is so shoddy. The report is crap. Maybe the NYT will buy it but I can't wait to see what le Canard Enchaine (French satirical magazine) says about it.

    • That is in the bot view, Shmuel. Check out the wiki entry for mohamed al dura

      link to en.wikipedia.org

      "The footage of the father and son acquired what one writer called the power of a battle flag. According to James Fallows the 'harshest version' of the case from the Arab side is that it proves the ancient blood libel, while the 'harshest version' from the Israeli side is that it proves the Palestinians' willingness to deliberately sacrifice even their own children in an anti-Zionist war."

      It is termed an incident . There are 2 narratives etc.
      Very similar to the Republican echo chamber where there are 2 sets of ways of seeing things.

      But death is like pregnancy, isn't it? You can't be half pregnant or half dead.

    • The report was more or less written for the NYT and the WSJ. Something with an air of galut credibility that hasbara central can use. There are no facts when it comes to israel. Just opinions.

    • Israel is a joke. Like 36 pages of smoke and mirrors about a dead Palestinian are going to undo the daily barrage of self delegitimisation coming out of Judistan.
      Like there is a form of words that can wipe out the PR losses of Cast Lead.

    • link to haaretz.com

      "Al-Dura told Army Radio that his son had died on the spot, from the soldiers’ gunfire. “He was killed next to me and was buried in the Bureij refugee camp,” he said.
      "They can lie as much as they want …. I saw it all with my own eyes and I know what happened there. Why did Israel use bulldozers to knock down all the walls at Netzarim Junction? So there wouldn’t be any evidence.” "

      But's like climate change I guess. There are 2 versions of the story. In one the child died. In the other he didn't and there is no conclusion.

      WTF Khaalis.

    • Israel's case is 100% horseshit. They do not have a leg to stand on. It's embarrassing.
      Enderlin had to be humiliated for daring to diss Israel. End of.

      They are all over wikipedia

      link to en.wikipedia.org

      and youtube

      link to youtube.com...0.0.0.6520.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0...0.0...1ac..11.youtube.

      but there is no 25 year old in Burj camp

      I feel sorry for Jamal Al Dura. It must be very hard to have to prove yourself to a nation of WTFers. How do you take anything seriously when you have a son dead and the people who killed him say it never happened ?

      link to haaretz.com

      " On Sunday, an Israeli panel said "there are many indications" that Mohammed al-Dura and his father Jamal were never hit by gunfire – neither Israeli nor Palestinian – in the shootout early in the second intifada. According to the report, complete footage shows that the boy was still alive when the shooting stopped.
      "I am prepared for an international investigation in which people from the outside investigate and see who is right – the government and the soldiers or the al-Dura family. Israel is afraid,” Jamal al-Dura told Army Radio on Monday.
      Later, speaking to Haaretz, al-Dura said he would "do anything to reveal the truth, including opening my son’s grave … and to examine the circumstances of his death.”
      According to al-Dura, “What saddens me is that I feel alone in the face of the Israeli propaganda machine, and no one is at my side – whether from the Palestinian Authority in Ramallah or the Hamas government in Gaza.”
      Al-Dura told Army Radio that his son had died on the spot, from the soldiers’ gunfire. “He was killed next to me and was buried in the Bureij refugee camp,” he said.
      "They can lie as much as they want …. I saw it all with my own eyes and I know what happened there. Why did Israel use bulldozers to knock down all the walls at Netzarim Junction? So there wouldn’t be any evidence.”
      According to al-Dura, “When they killed Mohammed, Bill Clinton came out and condemned the incident and gave Israel a bad image, so Israel is lying. The bullets the Israelis fired are in the possession of the Palestinian Authority. How come on the first day of the intifada when they killed Mohammed and I was wounded Israel said it had killed Mohammed?"

      This classic Hebrew echo chamber.
      And it shows Zionism for what it is. They will hunt down anyone they fancy on the flimsiest of pretexts.

      I don't know what Bibi thinks this is going to achieve.

  • Mohammed Assaf, singing sensation out of Gaza refugee camp, torches Arab Idol competition
    • It's lovely to see a Ghazzawi get so much in the way of recognition. The status of Gaza is totally artificial and the people there are as talented and as capable as people anywhere else.

    • What I love about that video is the reception he gets from the 4 judges. He is no 6th grade refugee from benighted Gaza, lower even than an Ethiopian Jewish woman. His identification in the Israeli system is irrelevant. The man is a star. The Palestinians are fully human and unstoppable.

      This is the big mistake the Zionists made in choosing their Altneuland. The Palestinians are part of a much bigger reality.

      And Nancy Ajram is never going to shill for zionism.

    • Here is another one, from India

      link to archive.tehelka.com

      "BEFORE THE gift, there was the prophecy. After their first child — a girl — was born, an array of astrologers told the disappointed Tamil music composer, RK Shekhar and his wife Kasturi, that they would soon be gifted with someone extraordinary: a son whose name would illumine the world, a musical genius whose soul would arc across the sky. Dileep Kumar was born just over a year after on January 6, 1966. The name — AR Rahman, mysteriously wrapped in instant and acetylene fame — would come later, but by the time he was three, the signs were firmly in place. He was, indeed, the fortunate one: he could play the harmonium before he could speak; and soon after his birth, his father inexplicably began to prosper. The word spread. His sister Kanchana, the elder one, music coursing in her blood too but born without prophecy, remembers her father taking the little boy to Sudarshan, a reputed music director, when he was four. “I hear your child can play anything,” Sudarshan challenged him, “let’s see if he can do this.” He played a particularly complex piece, then covered the harmonium with his veshti to make the playing more difficult — a kind of surrogate blindfold — and handed over the harmonium to the young boy. The calm little boy executed it perfectly. Humbled, Sudarshan leapt up and embraced the child."

    • Introduced as Mohammed Assaf min Filisteen
      Mohammed Assaf from PALESTINE.

      link to youtube.com

      Spinning motion noticed near the grave of Golda Meir.

      The commentary starting at 4:36 is great. They really love him. Nancy Ajram the legend. A nice mixture of Masri and Shaami accents as well. And there is no ar#ehole a la Simon Cowell.

    • He has the Lubnaniin in the palm of his hand . These shows throw up stars and you know they have it when you see them. Music is amazing. Money doesn't necessarily have anything to do with it.

      The stories of how legends like George Wassouf are identified are amazing.
      Every culture has them.

  • Kennedy's insistence on right of return prompted Ben-Gurion to rewrite history: They fled 'of their own free will'
    • They all fled and prefer to live like cockroaches obviously so they can't be allowed back. Anyway if you don't agree with that there is alternative hasbara which says they never lived there in the first place.
      My favourite is it's 65 years and too late while any Jew from anywhere can claim residency based on 1900 years old property rights.

      Also how come the Sephardim don't have the Ashkenazi breast cancer gene? Any ideas?

    • I note that there are 1.2 million syrian refugees in Jordan. they are all expected to go home eventually. It does not matter if they fled or were forced out.
      There is no question of Syria being handed over to the Mormons either.

  • Lapid says 'Israelis want peace and security and Palestinians want peace and justice'
    • Israelis want "peace" but do not want to pay for it - they really want to procrastinate and forget about the Aghabs .

      Palestinians want their rights.

      There is only going to be one answer.

    • Lapid is a fraud. Nobody can triangulate the status quo.
      There is no fancy form of words to secure the occupation.

      Israelis don't get this.

  • Two friends meet for 5 minutes in Jerusalem
  • Video: Soldiers aim guns at fallen boy's head outside West Bank settlement
    • link to haaretz.com

      "The result of the committee’s work was a document for the extremely meticulous. It is doubtful whether even a hundred people in Israel or worldwide are sufficiently familiar with all the intricate details of the incident to be able to follow the convoluted arguments by the report's authors. Furthermore, the document contains no new evidence that might significantly impact the accepted version. Even the new interpretation given to some of the old findings seems groundless. For example, Dr. Ricardo Nachman, deputy director of Israel’s National Forensic Institute, determined, based on viewing poor quality video footage, that Mohammed al-Dura wasn’t shot and killed in that incident.

      The expert opinion attached to the report reads like an article by a movie critic and not by a pathologist. “The final scenes, in which the boy is seen raising his head and arms, bringing his hand to his face and looking into the distance are not compatible with death throes, but seem like voluntary movements," wrote Nachman. “One doesn’t need to be an expert to see that."

      It seems as though the report was written for use within Israel alone. The evidence and arguments that were presented might convince the already convinced, but no more than that. The committee could not present any "smoking gun" evidence showing the 25 year old al-Dura sunbathing on a Gaza beach. Not even close. Any thought of getting such a report to change the globally accepted narrative after 13 years is akin to trying to put the toothpaste back into the tube.

      The report also appears to be a campaign of revenge launched by the State of Israel against a single French journalist, Charles Engerlin, who first reported Mohammed al-Dura's death. Committee members tried to saddle Enderlin, an Israeli Jew who served in the IDF spokesman’s unit and whose two sons served in the country's military, with all of Israel's problems and those of the Jewish people.
      The committee went even further and hinted at Enderlin’s responsibility for the massacre of Jewish schoolchildren in Toulouse. “His report inspired many terrorists and contributed to the demonization of Israel and to the rise of anti-Semitism in Muslim and Western countries”, wrote committee members. “In some cases, the implications were deadly”."

      I.e. as expected

      The campaign of revenge is ultra bot diggity.

    • What is the point? Why is this case SO important to Israel? Why was it taken.up by senior bots in France and the US?
      It looks like a classic example of something that can only be understood in Hebrew with the benefit of years of indoctrination.

    • Israel now insists Mohamed ad Durra
      did not die

      WTF is this all about?

      link to haaretz.com

  • Abulhawa declines to 'balance out' several Israelis in 'Al Jazeera' forum on Nakba
  • CNN's Tapper lends himself to claustrophobic discussion of unicorn-- Israel's survival as 'a Jewish democracy'
    • Israel is deteriorating faster than goldbug or shavit can bear to admit. It isn't achieving anything to pretend everything is groovy.

  • Church of Scotland's revised 'Promised Land' report has softer edges but thrust is unchanged
    • "If Jesus is indeed the Yes to all God’s promises then for Christians the promise to Abraham about land is fulfilled through the impact of Jesus."

      This is a slap in the face to American Christian Zionists (but they normally don't listen to reason) . Taking back Christianity from the wackos.
      AIPAC will presumably scweam and scweam .

  • Guatemalan genocide got assist from US, Christian Right, and Israel
    • Israel will sell arms and expertise essentially anywhere there is money.
      Most controversies coming out of trade with war zones like DRC will usually have an Israeli fixer in the middle.

      Which brings me onto kidney transplants in Israel which are often organised by Israeli fixers (because kidney transplants are abhorrent under Orthodox Judaism) between clients paying $100K+ and donors from poor countries who may get as little as $1K.

      link to wrmea.org

      link to bloomberg.com

  • Barbara Boxer's visa bill for Israel comes under concerted attack
  • 'If I had to choose between the wealth of the world and going home, I would go back'
    • "the fact that Israel refuses to let them return…"

      the refugees represent Israel's decency.
      It is also refused entry at Ben Gurion.

    • if it turned out that they had left “by choice,” having been persuaded by their leaders that it was best to depart temporarily and return after the Arab victory, the world community would be less supportive of their claim”

      If they had left it at that in 1967 maybe it would have worked. But they couldn't stop humping the table leg one more time and invading the West Bank.

      When Zionism collapses 1948 will be back on the agenda.

    • This is a great Nakba video

      link to youtube.com

      "Great to see Palestinians making the point that the right to return home is central and will not be given up."

      Sah. The dispossession is never, ever, going to be accepted as just .

  • Rightwing Israeli group gets tax-deductible funds from US foundation
    • The Zionists are consumers. They consume resources. Their consumption is based on the availability of cash.

      I think BDS and general disgust in Galut will cut down the flow of cash and it will be fairly similar to other cases of abuse collapsing. I thought the fall of the News of the World was very like what will happen to Zionism.

      The most rabid Zionists live in the West Bank and call themselves pioneers and laugh at the sad schmucks in Tel Aviv but they couldn't survive more than a couple of days without the support of Israel's first world infrastructure. They have no independent means of support. Israeli society depends on oil from the Azeris and credit from the West - cut either of these off and Israel would be plunged into an existential crisis. It is quite a fragile Sparta, for all of the posturing.

  • Intense video challenges Catalan and Spanish collaboration with the Israeli occupation
  • NPR twice celebrates Israeli army-- once as 'rite of passage' for minorities and beacon to US Jews
    • You'd probably scream blue murder if anyone ever brought it up. You'd invent a history and ban all discussion of anything else. You would destroy all trace of what happened.

      But you'd never be able to sleep properly. You would always have
      it at the back of your mind, that they might come back.

      You would probably feel better if they did even though you might never admit it.

      link to youtube.com

    • And the feel sick about Israel stories just keep coming on Ha'aretz .

    • Kathleen

      Zionism can't run as it does without a massive media blanket covering what really goes on in the territories. As well as ensuring that Congress does its bidding Zionism needs media who do what they are told, for their own good obviously. And nice, friendly, reasonable presenters and journalists -people that listeners and readers can trust- to repeat the hasbara verbatim.

      As Zionism begins to break down it will be difficult for outfits like the New York Review and NPR to keep the status quo going.

      Hasbara is like the Republican echo chamber.

    • "That's what struck Leora Prince when the New Jersey native visited Israel after high school. She saw lots of young people joined in a common purpose."

      Gang rape involves "people joined in a common purpose", FFS. Some common purposes are criminal.

      "The Israel Defense Forces plays a number of roles that go far beyond just defending the country. It is also a melting pot that allows immigrants and minority groups to join in the same rite of passage"

      Sadly, entry to the pot is not open to everyone. And it is actually a bigotry soup.

  • Issue in the L.A. mayor's race? Support Israel!
    • "A steadfast supporter of Israel."
      And of what relevance is that?

      I note one of her policy goals is "Protecting our parents and Grandparents in their homes"
      Sadly, that is not an Israeli priority. Especially regarding non Jews.
      Wendy also supports keeping local kids safe from violence. But not Palestinian kids, obviously.

  • Coalition says investigations into campus Palestine activism chill student speech rights
    • So campus checkpoints create an echo of Nazi persecution of Jews. You can't make this stuff up. Who runs the real checkpoints? Well blow me down with a feather duster if it isn't the children of Abraham.

      Zionism is such a joke. It is essentially impossible for the bots to justify their abuse of the palestinians in English. So they resort to lawfare. Another sign Zionism is doomed. It is a court parlour game. Nothing to do with reality.

  • 'My grandmother thought it was temporary' -- Huffpo features Nakba discussion with 5 Palestinians
    • Remi Kanazi's new poem Nakba about his grandmother's expulsion :

      link to electronicintifada.net

    • I think hasbara's difficulties and the rise in the quality of Palestinian content in the context of the death of the 2ss will throw up more gems. We are watching the slow collapse of the intellectual justification for zionism's abuse of the palestinian people. It is very exciting.

    • The old will die and the young will forget was actually about the Ashkenazim as it transpired. They forgot everything. Like having all theur teeth extracted and replaced with ultra fancy zion dentures.

      How could the Palestinians forget their country? The bots have always been seduced by modernism, the notion that the self can be reinvented. Kiryat arba says that is deluded.

  • When 'J' means 'Jewish' not 'Justice'
    • I think the lesson of Israel is that the Jews are the same as the goys when it comes to how to behave . And that fantasies about building Jerusalem , whether in England's green and pleasant land or in E1, are for the most part deluded. As humans we find it very hard to avoid shafting people if the system makes it possible. A lot of religious comforting about progress and goodness is missing modern insights into how the human brain works. Nobody is sacred unless we all are. And history never ends.

    • I have a hard time taking Jewish Values­­® seriously. Unless it's good networking. There is no Jewish moral identifier I can think of. If there were, Ariel Sharon would have had it. Our Son of a Bitch™ is fine but don't tell me all the mitzvot have anything to do with anything. Otherwise chalk it all down to very sloppy brand management. What brand manager would have the gobshites in Elad holding a franchise?

      Tikkun Olam® was beaten to death in Hebron. Tikkun a stand would be far more useful . Why are so many Jews afraid to call out the Zionists for the charlatans they are ?

      The sad truth is that Zionism seized the land of Israel in the name of the Jewish people and the project is a failure. Spin it any way you like but Jewish sovereignty has been a car crash.

  • Washington Post's racism map omits Israel
  • Exile and the Prophetic: While the Church of Scotland dallies, the United Church of Canada forges ahead
    • Canada park in latrun remains an abomination. Park for jews built on 67 land, on which stood 3 villages.

    • Zionism is vicious. Zionism doesn't know where to stop. Like a dog who can't stop humping chair legs.

      Screaming blue murder at inoffensive groups such as the Presbyterians is really stupid.
      The revenge of the Presbyterians will be sweet.

    • I bet the Presbyterians will be back to this topic and immovable. Like the inspirational Sandra Tamari, more and more people are answering ritual humiliation at the hands of the bots with action that gets them in the gonads.

    • "Stick a fork in it. The interfaith ecumenical deal which demands Christian silence on Israel because of the Holocaust and anti-Semitism is dead."

      Ma sha allah . Using the Holocaust as cover for Jewish oppression is sick.

      Message to players of whack a mole with the Protestant churches: Warning- the moles may not all play the game as expected.

      And here is another example of Zionist cruelty :

      Israel is running a budget deficit- senior bots want to suck money from the palestinians to cover some of the overrun

      link to haaretz.com

      "During the marathon budget talks this week, the Defense Ministry and the Finance Ministry made a creative suggestion for covering Israel's deficit: a new toll for Palestinian merchandise at Israeli border crossings. The proposal was scrapped only after intervention by Justice Minister Tzipi Livni and National Security Adviser Yaakov Amidror.

      A high-ranking Israeli official said that during the budget talks earlier this week, the two ministries proposed amending a law stipulating that the interim agreement between Israel and the PLO regarding the territories be implemented. The suggested amendment would give the defense minister the power to “determine amounts of tolls and operational expenses” that could be collected on merchandise passing through inspection points and border crossings between Israel and the West Bank.

      During the cabinet meeting, Defense Ministry and Finance Ministry representatives said that Israel could collect between NIS 100 million and NIS 300 million per year by charging the Palestinian Authority new fees for incoming and outgoing merchandise."

      Of course the flow of money to the settlers is sacred.

  • 'NY Times' relays Israeli threat to attack Syria
    • They have attempted to destroy all enemies- from the 48 palestinians through Nasser to the PLO in 82 onto Saddam. Failed miserably with Hizbollah. Now looking at Iran. The IDF needs wars to justify its massive infusions of cash.
      But it makes Israel impossible to live with.

      Israel's big weakness is the need for short wars. They don't have enough people for long term attrition.

  • 'AP' says Barbara Boxer is favoring Israeli travelers over American ones
    • Arab Americans and other US minorities need to raise hell over this. It is pure institutionalised bigotry on the part of Israel to deny entry to american passport holders.

      What does it say on the inside of the US passport?

      " The Secretary of State of the United States of America hereby requests all whom it may concern to permit the citizen/national of the United States named herein to pass without delay or hindrance and in case of need to give all lawful aid and protection."

      It doesn't say "The Secretary of State of the United States of America has been bought by a shoddy lobby and supports whatever crude bigotry it wishes to impose "

  • Exile and the Prophetic: The Nakba marches on
    • "Once Jews of Conscience understood the shared anniversary, there was no going back. Because, you see, understanding the origins is the essential insight into what’s going on today."

      This is a good intro

      link to goodreads.com

      "What, then , is the essence of Zionism? "

      Ethnic cleansing, lying, obnoxiousness, excessive belief in the efficacy of violence, untreated mass trauma, indoctrination, inability to deal with truth, insecurity, fear, thuggery, praying in front of a tank aimed at a Palestinian or Shia village

  • Richard Engel says Syrian rebel journalists are 'noble,' but journalists whose cause is Hamas aren't really journalists
    • But it is still very comforting for people in certain jobs, bringing a wonderful numbness to the mind, no need to think, just repeat the words provided.

  • Infographic: An Ongoing Displacement - The forced exile of the Palestinians
    • One aspect of the Nakba that doesn't get enough attention is the fate of the Palestinian refugees in countries such as Iraq and Syria when war erupts as it has in both of these countries in the last decade.

  • The Ongoing Nakba: The continuous forcible displacement of the Palestinian people
    • The aim of the Nakba was :

      1. To wipe out the Palestinian people.
      2 Wipe all trace of them from the land and turn it into "Jewish land".

      Fail and fail.

  • Im Tirtzu protests ‘nakba bullshit’ at Tel Aviv University
    • The Nakba is dangerous for ideological groups like Im Tirtzu. If it weren't, they wouldn't protest it. Israel can't deal with the Nakba.

      link to youtube.com

    • Here's another one

      link to ft.com

      "hashita (“the method”), or “the common belief that in order to make it in Israeli business or politics you don’t need to be smart, just to have the right friends in the right places, and never to invest one’s own money”".

      I think the mess with the settlers is down to hashita. You don't need to be smart...

    • “Reading the names of the [destroyed] villages leaves it open to interpretation and many people believe that the state of Israel is a consequence,”

      When in actual fact the villages never existed and it is antisemitic to suggest they did...

      I love the way the bots frame everything in terms of conflicting narratives. There is no such thing as truth in Israel. Just opposing views.

    • ""It feels like they are talking to themselves, to walls," said Hanin Majdali"

      It would be super to get John Trudell to Israel and Palestine

      "they lie to us
      then lie to themselves
      about lying to us"
      link to artscope.net

  • Dershowitz should stop lying about Tutu's record
    • From the link

      "As much as people dismiss him (Dershowitz) as a clown and charlatan and roll their eyes ­ the fact of the matter is that he very effectively makes use of his Harvard pedigree ­ it is a distinguished university and he has an eminent chair of that university and he makes use of those credentials to lend credibility to his work"

      Finkelstein

    • He's not mentally ill. It's more like some massive character flaw. For all of his vast intelligence very little of his Israel work is based on facts. And he is so rabid.

      The sad thing is that history will not be kind to him. Once Zionism falls he will be seen as a partisan of a lost cause.

    • The bots seem to be in a tizzy about proving Mohamed al durra was not killed by the ID F. Is the Dersh involved?

  • Beinart's challenge, Beinart's fear
    • The other problem for the Zionists is that they have run out of Jews to entice to shangri la. For all of his professed "love" for Israel, Beinart wouldn't live there in a million years.

    • If Israelis are afraid of conservative Islam maybe they should stop pauperising the Palestinians.

      Political economy is central to what happens.

  • Newseum honors newsman who ran guns for ethnic cleansing of Palestine
    • Zionism is a parallel reality where the end always justifies the means. I suppose, what else could it have been ? It was never going to be saintly to dispossess and then pauperise a people.

  • Israeli airport sorts passengers with 'Jewish stickers' and 'Arab stickers'
    • “what’s the problem, we’re all Jews, aren’t we?”

      Israel is the most unequal society in the OECD (even when you exclude the Palestinians). The "we are all Jews" schtick gives loads of space for oligarchs like Dankner to take as much as they can.

    • link to itisapartheid.org

      "After the 1947 war was over, Ben-Gurion declared:“The Arabs of the land of Israel have only one function left to them-to run away"

      Ben Gurion was wrong on this. The Palestinians weren't the same as the Zionists. The Palestinians have one land and they are not going anywhere.

    • I don't think the Israelis will ever normalise the occupation. It is too much the opposite of what they proclaim as their values. Zionism is a kind of sickness that runs a lot of unprocessed trauma from WW2. All that indoctrination and hasbara . It's like they have no hope in better things.

      Even today's Ha'aretz. Spinning why African migrants should be confined to detention centres and why it's kosher to pour bleach onto 500kg of food in a sudanese restarant.

      link to haaretz.com

      In the same breath they'll curse the Brits about their immigration policy in 1947.
      It is so incoherent.

    • "Since Mira Awad has achieved Jew status, I’m surprised Israeli security didn’t start sharing Jewish jokes with her about Arabs. "

      It's probably like Hilton Honors. You don't get Ashkenazi male status unless you have LOTS of stickers. Mira Awad is probably on Ethiopian Jew grade at the moment.

    • So petty. Like it matters whether someone is Jewish or not.
      I always think of the birds in Israel and how well they did not to be identified as Muslim...

    • Why don't they just make the Palestinians wear yellow crescents?

  • The Newseum's 'further investigation' must be public, credible, and thorough - and what we should do if it isn't
    • "public, credible, and thorough"

      must be antisemitic.
      When did Israel ever do anything that was public, credible, and thorough ?

  • Washington state bus-ad campaign dares to state: 'Equal rights for Palestinians'
    • Presumably the bot embassy is too busy firefighting elsewhere to do anything about this.

  • Boston Globe's groundbreaking salute to BDS will bring 'fierce criticism,' US Campaign says
    • Dick and Jane will be the last to know. If you ever follow child abuse stories, the perpetrators can be protected for a very long time before something flicks and it's over. Zionism is just another abuse story.

    • Zionism so far this year has been more vicious and cruel than the usual presentation of rational and measured. Fangs bared too many times to mention. Public airing of bitchslaps - not good for the PR. Even Michael Oren was publicly humiliated.Hasbara in big trouble. Throw in the women at the Kotel andthe racism in Israel and it's no wonder people are turning away. Last year's used goods- the presbyterians, for example, will have been watching developments closely. Powerful minorities have to be careful not to make too many enemies but they have been doing it for so long the sensors are dysfunctional.

  • Exile and the prophetic: Peter Beinart's 'I love Israel'

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