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"Either we are all sacred or none of us is" - Paul Fourhorns Tenoso "One has to bear in mind that Israelis live in a largely mythic world, a somewhat modified and vastly simplified version of the Iliad. In this starkly polarized vision of reality, in which Israelis are by definition innocent victims of dark, irrational forces operating against them, heroic death in war always makes sense, and violent coercion is the option both of necessity and of choice. The Hebrew proverb says: “If force doesn’t work, use more force.” jon s November 16, 2014, 6:56 am "Hophmi, for participating in efforts to promote Jewish-Muslim understanding , is ridiculed, while Max and David , for spreading lies and promoting hatred , are to be admired." I just think Judaism needs to get back to that justice setting.

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  • Lobby versus Hagel (NYT goes after his 'record on gays')
    • At some time in the future jewish lobby will hopefully refer to a style of hotel entrance.

    • I think the debate on Hagel should be widened to make room for Queers against Israeli Apartheid

      The Lobby's use of GLBT issues to defend apartheid is beyond cynical.

      How tolerant of sexual difference are the Orthodox in the US and Israel?
      How easy is it to be frum and gay in Bnei Brak or NYC ?

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      Something else that came up in a different context today and reminded me of Zionism now

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      "But the intensification of their rhetoric in recent days may be telling. The use of excessively emotive language is often the hallmark of a group that knows it is losing the battle, resorting instead to increasingly hysterical claims. The position they cling to is archaic, abstruse and culpably inhumane. No amount of disingenuous emotional incontinence can disguise that."

  • The chancellor's new clothes
    • The father swung his child behind him with a wrench of the little girl's arm, and a sign went to a computer operator with a joystick in Virginia and within 4 seconds she was dead as a zephyr passed through the sky over the party.

  • Exile and the Prophetic: Branding the Holocaust
    • Palestinians: last victims of the Holocaust
      by Lillian Rosengarten

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      Where is the heart of the Jewish soul? Soul as ethical compassion, the Jewish spirit as it struggled to survive the darkest nightmare of Nazi racial laws. How do the first and second generation of victims of such heinous blood curdling racist crimes during the Nazi progrom of ethnic cleansing, live it’s present form of nationalism in Israel? By what demonic twist of fate can Jews, who merely two generations ago suffered the cruelest racial bestiality as victims of Nazi anti-Semitism and racial purity laws, justify destroying an entire Palestinian population by plowing through their land, driving out it’s inhabitants and by wielding power through military force to establish their ownership by “right.”
      How can one justify complicity of Israeli’s dehumanization of the Palestinian population by the American Jewish community including many scholars and camp survivors who have played a defining role in understanding the Holocaust experience. How can Jews, so collectively brutalized themselves, look the other way to justify another ghetto that is the largest prison camp in the world, Gaza? How do we still turn our faces away, swallow the lies, the myth of the Jewish state that must protect itself from destruction by the surrounding forces of evil. In the name of this fear, what insanity could possibly justify decades of brutalization, humiliation, the rape of land, the endless faces of the IDF with a mission to kill the other, to hate the other, to suppress ”the animals” who do not count as human beings. The young soldiers who have bought the racist lies follow orders and have lost their humanity. It is not beyond comprehension to understand aspects of the Israeli brutal and paranoid policies in light of the Jewish history perpetrated on them as victims of the Nazi progrom. Then, vitriolic anti Semitisms inflicted the most vile collective punishment and unspeakable brutality. Without question there had to be inflicted an extraordinary psychological impairment internalized in the surviving victims of such an irrational monstrous Nazi ideology. Left to fester from one generation to the next, the internalized hate is buried, yet ultimately the brutalized victims themselves find a target to project their hate so that the cycle of irrational paranoia and abuse continues on its destructive course.
      One cannot understand this cycle of madness simply in rational terms. Its life force is laced inside a growing cancer, an irrational fear of extermination, victimization and hatred now targeted on the last victims of the Holocaust nightmare, the Palestinians. The cycle repeats itself in the form of racism and collective punishment that give rise to excruciating suffering as the victimizers blinded in hate, cease to be human. How else can one explain the vitriol coming with such emotion from the CUNY trustee Jeffrey Wiesenfeld when he pronounced, “They are people(Palestinians/Arabs) who worship death for their children and they are not human.” Racism gives permission to dehumanize the other. The Nazis could justify their crimes by a process of dehumanization as well as reinforcing a nationalistic ideology of the most grandiose proportions. Within this cycle of horror, Jews and Palestinians are the last victims of the Holocaust.. The Israeli’s in their efforts to “survive” have been haunted by a deeply rooted fear of extinction played out in this last chapter as the victimizers who see their former Palestinian neighbors, (prior to 1948,) as evil destroyers who plot only to destroy everything that is Jewish in Israel.. Within this last chapter, Jews are transformed into victimizers who must wipe out the Palestinians.
      The NY Times reported on Nakba Day: “Israel’s borders erupted in deadly clashes on Sunday as thousands of Palestinians — marching from Syria, Lebanon, Gaza and the West Bank — confronted Israeli troops to mark the anniversary of Israel’s creation, Nakba.
      At day’s end after violent clashes between the IDF and the Palestinian demonstrators, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said the protests had been aimed at destroying Israel, not creating a Palestinian state alongside it. He continues, “The leaders of these violent demonstrations, their struggle is not over the 1967 borders but over the very existence of Israel, which they describe as a catastrophe that must be resolved,” he said. “It is important that we look with open eyes at the reality and be aware of whom we are dealing with and what swe are dealing with.” This is a sanguine message to the world and in particular to American Jews who still needs to see Israel as an idealized version of a democratic country in enormous danger of extinction.
      Mahmoud Abbas, the president of the Palestinian Authority, saluted the protesters in a televised speech, referring to the dead as martyrs. “The blood of the Nakba fatalities was not spilled in vain,” he said. “They died for the Palestinian people’s rights and freedom.”
      Israel has become increasingly isolated and cannot survive if it continues on this path of paranoia and racism. Jews must open their eyes to recognize who are the true victims. This necessitates the ability of Israelis to bestow dignity and humanity on Palestinians as human beings with hearts and souls equal to their own. The alternative is too horrible to consider, a continuous cycle of hate , a festering gangrenous wound that knows no end in its nihilism and destruction.
      We have now an extraordinary opportunity to engage in an open discussion and dialogue about Jewish racism. In the past any idea of Jews as racist has been responded to as abhorrent and unspeakable. Dissent has been crushed and critics of Israeli policies have been labeled “self hating Jew, Jewish anti-semites and enemies of Israel.
      We, the defenders of freedom and dignity for all human beings must continue to speak out and support a free Israel and Palestine, one state, symbol of the right for all displaced victims of racism to live in harmony and with dignity.

  • The nonexistent 'Jewish lobby' sets out to destroy Chuck Hagel
    • Even if they "kill" Hagel , for how long can they keep this horseshit going, realistically ?

      It's always the same thuggery. They think they own the US and by definition the world.

    • Israel you're gone too far and you should hang your head in shame

    • It's not like Hagel would make any difference to all the Pakistanis whose naseeb is to die by drone. But there is a district air of the Protocols about the Lobby and when that gets some light shone on it there will be a lot of awkward questions from Main Street. Israel is a community prank that has gone way out of control. It is far too late to turn the clock back.

  • So you’re thinking of Birthright: A primer by students who went on birthright for those still considering the trip
  • Following Yarmouk attack, thousands of Palestinians flee Syria for uncertain future in Lebanon
    • Safed , hebron and jerusalem used to be holy cities. Jews used to visit the cities to.learn how to live good lives. Imagine that in 2012!

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      The Guardian, Thursday 1 November 2012 20.59 GMT

      Today is the 95th anniversary of the Balfour Declaration, when the then foreign secretary, Arthur Balfour, signed a fateful letter to Lord Rothschild announcing that the British government "view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a National Home for the Jewish people". Britain thus gave the zionist movement carte blanche to transform the overwhelmingly Arab state of Palestine into a Jewish one.
      To further this aim, from 1920 onwards, Britain encouraged the mass immigration into Palestine of hundreds of thousands of European Jews, expressly against the wishes of the majority population. As Palestine descended into chaos, the British washed their hands of their responsibility for the mess they had caused and stood by while hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were terrorised into fleeing their homeland, as Palestine was transformed into Israel.
      We call for the British government to acknowledge publicly the responsibility of previous British administrations from 1917 to 1948 for the catastrophe that befell the Palestinians, when over threequarters were expelled deliberately and systematically by the zionist army. Most of them remain refugees today without redress. The truth about their expulsions is still not officially established, since Israel officially denies any responsibility for it.
      Ghada Karmi
      Tim Llewellyn
      Karl Sabbagh
      John Rose
      Kamel Hawwash
      Naomi Foyle
      Mona Baker
      Mike Marquesee
      Seni Seneviratne

      Like Mahmoud Abbas, my father came from Safed, and on behalf of his family I have no intention of renouncing claims arising from our expulsion from the town in 1947-48 (Abbas sparks Palestinian fury after waiving right of return, 5 November). In describing massacres in the Safed area, the Israeli Meron Benvenisti wrote: "These atrocities which … are regarded as libel, invented by the enemies of Israel … were, at the time they took place, known to ministers in the Israeli government, military commanders, and even the general public."
      The rights of the expelled Palestinians have not evaporated with the passage of time. The houses they lived in and the valuables they left behind were all stolen by the Jews who moved in. When I tried to visit one of my family's houses in Safed a few years ago – a house mentioned in Mahmoud Abbas's memoirs – the door was slammed in my face by the Russian-Jewish owner. The issue that has to be addressed is how the undeniable right of return of Palestinian refugees is to be managed. Having visited Safed many times, I am in two minds about whether I would actually return there. From having been a vibrant town with a majority Arab population, but a significant centuries-old Jewish presence, it has now become a dump. The former Arab part of town has been turned into a so-called "Artists Quarter", where there is little sign of art, just tawdry paintings and cheap knick-knacks that no one buys. But it is for me to decide whether I want to return or accept compensation, not for the Israelis, or indeed the president of Palestine, to deny that right on my behalf.
      Karl Sabbagh
      Newbold on Stour, Warwickshire

    • The betrayal of the Palestinians continues. Why can't they go home ?

  • Israeli prediction of third intifada follows days of provocation in Hebron
  • Who funds Pamela Geller? In 2010, it was a former Israel Project board member
  • Who started it?
    • The Chinese in Indonesia and the Lebanese in West Africa don't go back 2000 years. Rich elite minorities may be targeted when things fall apart as in famine, political meltdown or epidemics - the Chinese and Lebanese expats know all about it - it is not confined to Jews. It doesn't happen all the time but it does happen.

      I don't buy this Jewish history as eternal suffering. Or Israel as redemption BS either.

      Ha'aretz have "this day in Jewish history" and half of it is pogroms- this is a gross misrepresentation of Jewish history. Where did the women get the time to figure out all the recipes?

    • The Askhenazim had no links to Palestine and Zionism is a response to Ashkenazi persecution. It's a European thing, I think

    • It started in Europe with the Christians. There was a pogrom in Zurich , Switzerland in 1349. Jews blamed for the black death. It wasn't the first and it wasn't the last but the Jews were often targeted.

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      After WW2 the virus was transmitted to Palestine and the Palestinians became the Jews. And they are often targeted.

  • UC's new chancellor endorses the falsehood: Criticizing Israel is anti-Semitic
    • People are figuring out the bot style. Calling all critics of Israel antisemites is equivalent to reminding them that they are not the equal of Jews. And that's a very hard sell in 2012 in a mostly secular Europe.

      It is very hard to see how Zionist nihilism is part of some God driven plan for universal progress.

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      "In response to the question of why such tragedies happen, Rabbi Praver told NPR: “I don’t know the answer to that. I never try to present a theological answer to that. I think what’s more important is to have compassion, humanity and hold someone’s hand and hug them and cry with them.”

      except obviously if they are Muslim and Israel has murdered their kids, in which case everything is fine .

    • It's all fake. The ideology is too fragile to be exposed to the light. The same tired canards for the last 64 years.

      Jewish democracy would be a wonderful thing.

    • Criticising Israel is antisemitic yada yada. It's like they think they have all possible attacks covered by this verbal shield. And it makes them very sloppy .Like thei r1967 air superiority that lulled them into a trap in 1973 . They never did understand responsibility or forward thinking,.

    • The problem with depending on the trope that "criticism of Israel is antisemitic" is that one day in the not too distant future the goys are going to see through Israel's fake plastic Jewish state and frenzied deployment of the slur of antisemitism is going to be less effective than a Hail Mary versus an STD.

    • If criticism of Israel’s policies is, “by implication, anti-Jewish and anti-Semitic”

      torture and home demolitions are mitzvot

      And anything up to and including genocide is justified by the fetish for the land

  • 'NYT' equates Palestinian suicide-bombers to CT school-killer
    • Atran did a great video interview in the Guardian last year

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      I guess it is hard to fob him off with Jewish bigotry dressed up as reason, as in the letter below his from that link of yours :

      Adam Lankford makes an important point about the similarities between those who kill others and then die themselves for political purposes and those who do so for personal reasons. But he glosses over one basic difference between the two groups, a difference that has important implications for both explaining and preventing mass killings.
      That difference is that those who kill and die for political purposes are typically members of a community, while those who kill and die for personal reasons are typically alone and isolated.
      The communities of most politically motivated killers not only value the killers’ actions but also encourage, train and arm them, and then venerate them as martyrs and reward their families.
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      Personally motivated killers like Adam Lanza typically live in a very different world. They live lonely, constricted, isolated lives. Rather than ending their lives as martyrs, they are defined after their deaths as monsters, and their families and communities are left to grieve and suffer.

      Southbury, Conn., Dec. 18, 2012

    • Alan Moore- the decline of English murder

    • Have you ever had your home vaporised by a Gazan drone ?

    • The American and Israeli elites share the same contempt for the victims of their systems.

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      "The people who operate the drones, Rolling Stone magazine reports, describe their casualties as "bug splats", "since viewing the body through a grainy-green video image gives the sense of an insect being crushed". Or they are reduced to vegetation: justifying the drone war, Obama's counterterrorism adviser Bruce Riedel explained that "you've got to mow the lawn all the time. The minute you stop mowing, the grass is going to grow back".

      In October the Democratic cheerleader Joe Klein claimed on MSNBC that "the bottom line in the end is whose four-year-old gets killed? What we're doing is limiting the possibility that four-year-olds here will get killed by indiscriminate acts of terror". "

      Maybe the US will get away with it. Israel won't.

      The people cry out
      Tears of anger
      Tears of sorrow
      Giving birth to resistance
      Young ones
      To remember struggle
      For the people cry out
      Tears of happiness
      Tears of joy
      Washing the pain
      Cleaning the spirit
      Giving strength
      The generations
      Remembering the past
      To rebuild the future
      For weeping is
      Another way of laughing
      And resisting and
      Outlasting the enemy

    • Blumenthal says Mrs Lanza had issues

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      BTW slurring the Palestinians is very 2003.

      Jews should be ashamed of Gaza.

  • Hagel called for all-but normalizing relations with Iran so as to engage it as an ally on Israel-Palestine issue
  • Roots of Resistance: We all have a responsibility to turn resistance into liberation
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      The Israeli embassy in Dublin has apologised for a post on its Facebook page which said if Mary and Jesus were alive today they would "probably end up being lynched in Bethlehem by hostile Palestinians".

      The post, which was made on the Israel in Ireland Facebook page at about lunchtime today, showed a picture of Mary and Jesus. It was accompanied by the comment:

      "A thought for Christmas...If Jesus and mother Mary were alive today, they would, as Jews without security, probably end up being lynched in Bethlehem by hostile Palestinians.

      Just a thought…...."

      By 3 pm it had 20 'likes', though several comments expressed distaste for the post.

      Among them was one saying: !Have you no regard for honesty whatsoever? If Jesus & Mary were alive today, they would be protesting against the Israeli occupation of Palestine, along with all the Palestinian Christians currently living in Bethlehem.!

      The post was reported in the major Israeli on-line news site, Haaretz as well as on the Washington Post site today.
      When contacted a spokesman for the embassy confirmed the page was an official embassy site. Asked who posted to it he said: "Different members of staff at the embassy post to it."
      He then asked if The Irish Times was doing a piece on it and was told it was a possibility.

      The post was removed about half an hour later and replaced with a statement.
      "To whom it may concern: An image of Jesus and Mary with a derogatory comment about Palestinians was posted without the consent of the administrator of the Facebook page. We have removed the post in question immediately.Apologies to anyone who may have been offended. Merry Christmas!"

      A spokeswoman for the Ireland Palestine Solidarity Campaign described the original post as "outrageous and extremely cynical, but not surprising".
      "The fact that it was published on a site representing the Israeli state is particularly appalling. It is indicative of the racism that underpins the whole Zionist project."
      The Department of Foreign Affairs declined to comment.

  • Israeli army releases video of Dec. 12 killing of Palestinian youth at Hebron checkpoint
    • Reading about the reaction to the Newtown massacre and thinking about Israel's attitude to its Untermenschen.

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      "Asking if the country had fulfilled its obligation to protect its children, he said: "The answer is no."He added: "In the coming weeks I'll use whatever power this office holds to engage my fellow citizens from law enforcement, mental health professionals to parents and educators in an effort aimed at preventing more tragedies like this."

      Gun control may be possible. Lobby control is out of the question.

    • The cake was anti semitic. A bun libel.

    • They killed Mohamed ad Durra as well, Dim

      cue Dim spitting coffee onto his computer screen and calling in the hasbara heavies.

  • In 'Dissent' debate, Walzer hints that leftists who focus on Israel are anti-Semitic
    • I guess the people can always return to latkes made with lashings of schmaltz and start over.

    • Time for equal rights . Time for Judaism to man up

    • If Zionism was right there wouldn't be any hasbara. There wouldn't be a lobby .

      The problem with Zionism is it takes up too many evenings.

    • Debate requires trust. You can't trust Israeli junkies. They only ever think about the next fix of land.

    • Walzer is just another pampered ### moaning about antisemitism

      Meanwhile the agony of the Palestinian refugees continues

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    • The West needs China and its cheap workers. It doesn't need Zionism. Life is a b#tch. You need a moral code to deal with it. But Erez Israel was more beautiful than anything. So the morals went out the window. In the end there won't be anything to cling to.

    • The time for radical criticism was 50 years ago. Israel's communal brain is being eaten away by the cancers of tribal hatred and self pity. The time when words would have made a difference is history.

    • So focusing on Israel is antisemitic.
      By the same logic anyone opposed to the carpet bombing of Gaza hates Jews and wants them wiped off the face of the earth.

      Surely Walzer is a tad hysterical.

  • Gaza, the stories that come after
    • $467 million worth of US ordinance was dropped on Gaza in less than 2 weeks.

      Too many tragedies like this over the last few years and each time I hear the news I try to react not as a President but as a parent. And that was especially true today. I know there is not a parent in the Arab world who does not feel the overwhelming grief that I do today. The majority of those who died today were children . Beautiful Palestinian children between the ages of 5 and 10.

      Long pause

      They had their entire lives ahead of them. Birthdays, graduations, weddings, kids of their own. Our hearts are broken today.

  • Video: Palestinian teen slain in Hebron only saw his older brother behind bars
  • Abrams and Ross blame Palestinians for failure of peace process-- and never say the word 'settlements'
    • It's a real mess.
      the hardliners drive the agenda. It looks as though the vast majority of US Jews wouldn't be seen dead making aliyah to Israel and sending their kids to the IDF but that this emptiness in their Jewishness can be offset for many by vicarious aliyah in the form of voting for Israel or donating to Israel or even just supporting the rabbi down at the synagogue in whatever he does for Israel. It must give a nice warm fuzzy feeling tempered for some with ever increasing levels of unease. It's a community thing and it's their community but what happens when one part of the community drifts away from a common understanding of right and wrong?

      Like a sister with a brother who moved back to the old family farm . She sends money from the city. He always askes her to come live with her. She used to feel torn but has arrived at a state of equilbrium. She likes her city life. The money she sends makes her feel good. He has a very violent streak. His kids are unmanageable. But the money she sends makes her feel good.

    • The FT quoted an opinion poll that gave Likud/Beiteinu 80% of the seats they currently have in the next election.

  • Exile and the Prophetic: Is Israel too big to fail?
    • Israel is too small to avoid being shafted. There aren't enough people in the world who actually care about Zionism, who can respond viscerally to something like a kippa in Hevron. Judaism is too small to control the West indefinitely. It doesn't have the population to police the internet either.

  • 'We will make sure every American knows he is an anti-Semite' -- anonymous neocon threat to Hagel
  • Avigdor Lieberman resigns as Israeli Foreign Minister
    • Netanyahu is just as bad.They are all sick individuals.

    • It may not even be a dent. He said in Israel lat week that he was being persecuted. Eli yishai of Shas did the same schtick 2 years ago when the Carmel fire happened and he was the minister responsible for the inept Government response. He said he was being persecuted because of who he was. And his Sephardi base loved it. I bet the Russians and the settlers will vote in even bigger numbers for the bouncer. Zionists don't do responsibility.

  • Chuck Hagel said idea of going to war with Iran is 'Alice in Wonderland'
    • "Palestinian civilians get killed inadvertently, not deliberately and not as matter of Israeli policy toward this end"

      Says who ? It's a very bloody occupation.

    • "I caught your tone immediately, but, still, i had to resort to Wikipedia to find out what this place that you mentioned is all about."

      The problem with Zionism is that it takes up too many evenings

    • Which part of Beit Shemesh do you live in?

    • I would prefer to see some results from Obama ..

    • I have been studying Torah at a Yeshiva in Jerusalem for 34 years and I know what happens when we stray from the path of righteousness. War is bad for us. Look at what happened to Bar Kochba my friend.

    • When Main street finds out about the lobby and how it exposes American soldiers to danger as a thank you for Jewish money I imagine "Jew hater" won't be such a powerful word for Geller. Anyone who opposes war with Iran has the best interests of Judaism at heart.

    • Fair play to Hagel. Exposing more American soldiers to the hell of war because Israel can't live in peace is appalling.

  • Head of Israel lobby education group boasts of 'fear' political opponents feel
    • They can pick people off one by one as long as the numbers are limited. They have to puff themselves up - it is a way of telling people to back off. But in reality the game is becoming much more difficult. Here is a similar tale of thuggery . The omens are not good for Zionism.

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      This hacking scandal was among the subjects Davies had discussed in his book Flat Earth News (2008), an indictment of the present-day media ranging from the tendency to treat publicity handouts as hard news to the shameful credulity of much of the press about the way we were taken into the Iraq war. He had come on the radio to discuss his book with Stuart Kuttner, managing editor of the News of the World. Since the scandal erupted, Kuttner’s paper, and News International as a whole, had stuck to a line: Clive Goodman had been a lone miscreant, a “rogue reporter” whose activities were in no way characteristic of the paper. Kuttner contemptuously dismissed Davies and his “sour and gloomy” book, insisted that the British press was “the finest in the world,” and reiterated that hacking had “happened once”: the offender had been sacked and jailed, and that was the end of the matter.

      Later that morning, as if in a thriller, Davies received a call from a stranger. He was someone very well placed within News International who had heard the program and been outraged by Kuttner’s arrogance. What Kuttner had said was completely false, the caller told Davies: not only had Goodman himself hacked cell phones on a vast scale, the practice was rife throughout the News of the World. Stimulated by the call, Davies renewed his sleuthing. The “rogue reporter” defense had never seemed very plausible, but it now began to unravel—and News International was fighting a desperate rearguard action in a way that contradicted its protestations of innocence.

      As more people learned they had been victims of hacking they began to sue, and were privately offered compensation. Only months after Kuttner’s bluster, Gordon Taylor, head of the soccer players’ union, accepted a payment of £450,000, and £250,000 in legal costs, on condition of confidentiality, and the silence of other victims was also bought. That was all very well but if there were scores of victims, then buying them off at that rate would be ruinous for News International—or for News Corporation, Murdoch’s American parent company, whose investors had never shared his love of the London newspapers.

      A parliamentary committee was investigating the question and began to suspect that it had been misled, suspicions not stilled by Coulson’s repeating in 2009 that he had “no recollection” of hacking while he was editor. Davies continued to dig away, encouraged by the Guardian’s editor Alan Rusbridger, who had joined the paper on the same day as Davies in 1979 and had edited it since 1995.

      Then Rusbridger adroitly opened an offensive on another front by urging Bill Keller, his opposite number at The New York Times, to look into the hacking story. In Dial M for Murdoch, a useful account, albeit written in a tabloid style that seems ironically to be infectious, by Tom Watson, a Labour MP, and Martin Hickman, a reporter on the Independent, the authors artlessly say that this was “a strong story for a liberal American paper” because of “the Manhattanite Rupert Murdoch.” They don’t mention the fact that Murdoch had acquired The Wall Street Journal in 2007 and set it in direct competition with the Times. That looked like another healthy motive for Keller to pursue the story, just as the Guardian’s zeal would naturally have been increased by its rivalry with Murdoch’s London Times, and why not?

      A long piece, “Tabloid Hack Attack on Royals, and Beyond,” appeared in The New York Times Magazine in September 2010, and sent shock waves across the Atlantic with its details of how widespread hacking had been. The damning evidence included an e-mail from Ross Hindley, a News of the World journalist, to Neville Thurlbeck, the paper’s chief reporter, containing “the transcript of hacked messages that had been sent by a reporter at the paper.” This was clear evidence that earlier News International denials of innocence or ignorance were false. Four months earlier, in May 2010, the British general election had left David Cameron and the Conservatives with the largest number of seats in Parliament but short of a majority. Cameron became prime minister after forming a coalition with the Liberal Democrats—and brought Coulson with him to Number 10. Coulson left Downing Street only in January 2011, months before the great explosion.

      On June 15, 2011, Rupert Murdoch gave his usual lavish summer party where the many senior political guests included Cameron and Ed Miliband, the Labour leader. Three weeks later, on July 5, the Guardian published its most devastating story to date. Milly Dowler was a thirteen-year-old girl who had been abducted in March 2002, when Rebekah Brooks was editor of the News of the World. As it tragically proved, Milly had been murdered; but while her fate was unknown and the police were trying to find her, News of the World reporters had hacked her cell phone. More than that, Davies claimed that “deleted voicemails gave family false hope”: learning that her voicemails had been deleted, presumably by Milly herself, led her family to believe that she might still be alive. In fact the report of this “false hope” proved to be wrong, something that the Guardian could have been quicker to admit, since it was an error in good faith.

      But that did it. Murdoch thought that only a melodramatic gesture could staunch the wound. Two days later came the startling announcement that the News of the World was being folded after 168 years, and more than four decades of Murdoch’s ownership. Brooks said that she was staying put, but others demurred. Although Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal Alsaud is scarcely a name to conjure with in Fleet Street or Westminster, the Saudi prince happens to be the second-largest investor in News Corp. He told the BBC that Brooks should resign from News International, and so she did the next day, while Cameron announced that an inquiry into the role of the press and police in the phone-hacking scandal would be held under Lord Justice Leveson, examining “the culture, practice and ethics of the media.”

      All this came at a very bad moment for Murdoch. With his usual commercial acuity he had early grasped the possibilities of satellite television, which had proved immensely profitable, a contrast indeed to his newspapers nowadays. Murdoch owns 39 percent of the BSkyB broadcasting company and wanted to acquire it outright, to which end much private pressure was exerted: James Murdoch, Rupert’s son, admitted that he had a “tiny side conversation,” presumably about BSkyB, with Cameron at Rebekah Brooks’s house on December 23, 2010. But the public outrage of last summer meant that Murdoch had to drop his pursuit of BSkyB, for the time being at least.

      Meantime the parliamentary committee summoned Rupert Murdoch and his son James. Rupert said that it was “the most humble day of my life,” while Tom Watson, a member of the committee—and later the coauthor of Dial M for Murdoch—called James a mafia boss to his face. This spring the committee produced a damning report on News International, saying that Murdoch was not “fit” to run the company. Then on May 11, Brooks appeared before the Leveson inquiry, and was strikingly composed, while giving evidence that Cameron cannot have enjoyed. Five days later came the electrifying news that Brooks and her husband and four former colleagues were being charged with conspiracy to pervert the course of justice by removing materials pertinent to police investigations. This is a much more grave offense than phone hacking.

  • Family of teenager killed in Hebron calls fake gun story a 'fabrication'
    • "After they investigated the incident it turned out it was a fake gun, but it didn’t change how I felt about it. I’m happy this ended with no injuries on our side and I'm sure any other officer in my situation would have done what I did."

      Only an IDF officer. The French Army wouldn't accept such behaviour . Especially as there was no reason to kill the person.

  • Ethiopian immigrants subject to forced injections of contraceptive
  • Rightwing Israeli group accuses human-rights orgs of 'emasculation' of soldiers
    • Poor Dim's knowlege of the world is limited to rural Moldova and Beit El.

      “You slap any soldier in the world you’ll be dead at instant”
      Other memes in the series

      Woman respond best to discipline.

      Just because you paranoid no means they are not out to get you.

    • I guess the image of a Jewish soldier in handcuffs is so off the wall that it makes the cartoon. Only goys get handcuffed in Erez Israel.

    • It is so easy to slur Israel. dim. You just have to link to the article. No need to comment or anything.

      It must look great in Hebrew, I imagine. But "if you slap the IDF you deserve to die" translates very poorly into modern languages linked to functioning justice systems that are not Bible based.

    • As always I try to imagine the outcry if the shoe were on the other foot. How would bots like Syd or theADLrespond if New York City decided to inject Hasidic white Jewish women with birth control against their will.
      Or is it different for brown people? The Rassenschande of brown babies in Yishai's white man's Kosher* Shangri la

      * Not everyone can qualify as Kosher. Please do not ask, Ethiopians, as a refusal may apply.

    • There is a very dark history involving the abuse of chemicals to control the non Ashkenazi population of the Light unto the Nations.

      Israel is a very disturbed country.

    • Israel is sterilising Ethiopian Jewish women. It is far darker than just im tirtzu.
      Jews wouldn't do that part 567

      The revelation that Israel is sterilizing Ethiopian women adds to a shameful history of abuse of powerless women and communities.
      link to

    • And AIPAC is on the side of Im Tirtzu. As is the ADL.

      Jewish land trumps Jewish values and universal human rights every single time

      What a disgusting fetish.

  • Shlomo Sand on Zionism, post-Zionism, and the two-state solution
  • Lieberman's wild claim that Europe is ignoring another Holocaust masks effort to rob Palestinians of $423 million
    • It's not sustainable. The Palestinians don't get the benefit of the taxes they pay so others have to chip in. It is Zionism par excellence but it requires a third party to underwrite Israel's nihilism indefinitely. Stupid move by Israel. They should think abut their long term interests- it is dumb to expose the machine to outside eyes.

    • The court just waived all action against him.

      Sterilising women because they are the wrong colour is not what Judaism was supposed to be about.

    • One of the policies the Nazis are remembered for, of course, is the sterilisation of Jewish women. They didn't want the wrong babies.

      And guess where the policy is pursued today.

      link to

      It's hard to believe, but in Israel, in 2012, Ethiopian women are forced to receive injections of the Depo-Provera contraceptive. This injection is not a commonly prescribed means of contraception. It is considered a last resort and is usually given to women who are institutionalized or developmentally disabled. Yet according to an investigation recently aired on the “Vacuum” documentary series hosted by Gal Gabay and shown on Israeli Educational Television, it is also given to many new immigrants from Ethiopia.

      In transit camps today, future immigrants enter a horrifying bureaucratic entanglement, which gives them the burden of proving they are worthy of arriving in Israel. As in the past, those who arrive here are not quickly released from the grasp of state institutions. They continue to receive “treatment” in absorption centers, where the children are sent to religious boarding schools and included in special education frameworks, while the parents stay in ghettos and the women continue to receive injections. We are told there is no choice. The repressive, racist and paternalistic policies continue unhindered – policies that are supposedly in the best interests of the immigrants, who don’t know what is best for them.

      This policy of total control over their lives, which starts while they are still in Ethiopia, is unique to immigrants from that country and does not allow them to adjust to Israel. Using the excuse that they need to be prepared for a modern country, they are brainwashed and made to remain dependent on the state absorption institutions.

      The American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee said the claims the women made in the investigation were nonsense. This reminded me of some other women who spoke nonsense, such as the mothers of the kidnapped Yemenite children or the Moroccan women who underwent “treatment” for ringworm. To this day, their words are dismissed as nonsense. If they tried to sterilize me or take my children away, I think I would be talking nonsense too.

    • Maybe the bots want to goad the palestinians in the pay of the PA into an intifada. Or maybe lieberman thinks he can do a gaza on the west bank. I find it hard to believe that god is so cruel that 1900 years of mitzvot have culminated in a return to zion with leadership of the calibre of this moldovan bouncer.

    • Lieberman is just revving up his base for the election. Modern yesha zionism requires a population in a state of constant panic about shoah 2.0 while the dispossession of the Palestinians continues unimpeded.

  • Palestinian teenager shot dead by Israeli soldiers in Hebron
    • Israel is occupying Hebron. Do the Yanks have any right to be in Kabul ? No. Israel has no right to be in Hebron. Unless G-d wants zionism to collapse. ..

    • "And one more thing, apparently, the guy’s brother was a member of Hamas who got exiled to Gaza…"

      That made me laugh.

      Remember the black kid with the hood who was shot dead in Florida in March by some white man with a gun. Imagine some white supremacist justifying the killing by saying " and his brother is in jail".

    • Israel's presence in Hebron is a joke. God gave up on Zionism years ago. The Jews who do their mitzvot in Hevron are praying into the void.

    • I thi.k Hebron is where Judaism got lost.

    • Martin Buber described Zionism in 1944 as a sacred project. I guess it was a very long descent from there to today in Hebron.

  • Palestinians in Israel have used the contradiction between Zionism and democracy to reconstruct their national project
  • 'You have to demolish them while they're small' -- Israel's chief justice approves destruction of mosque
  • ADL misrepresents Israel's map to delegation it leads of 19 Latino leaders
    • In a parallel universe the adl hosted 19 teaching union leaders on a tour of Israel. Historically the teaching unions have worked for better pay and conditions for their members but 2 days with the Jews in hebron convinced them that yesha is more important than their own miserable interests. At a time of rising economic insecurity only zionism can bring peace of mind to america.

    • When the truth about the Israel machine is finally revealed to Main Street many people will be shocked to.learn that the ADL is actually a front for the promotion of apartheid.

  • Israeli army raids three civil society offices in West Bank at 1 a.m.
    • The bots can handle isolated cases of opposition- get the person sacked, call her an antisemite, that sort of thing. But what it can't manage is mass criticism. It is only a matter of time before key Jews turn away from Ziobotulism and the whole thing starts to blow up.

      Rupert Murdoch's news international would be the relevant case study

  • Citing growing division among Australian Jews over Israel, cartoonist refuses to apologize for likening Gaza to Nazis' victims
    • For more than 100 years they silenced people with the slur of antisemitism. They debased the term to the point of meaninglessness. And now it is useless. The tide has finally bzgun to turn. Dorian Israel is seen in the mirror of the world and the sight is truly appalling.

  • Happy Hanukkah? Thanks, but not for me
    • 40 years then. Jews marking the injustice of 40 years in temporary accommodation while 5 million Palestinian refuges are still stuck in camps and will never be allowed back to their homeland is the height of hypocrisy. And what Israel systematically does to Gaza is just that hypocrisy fried in schmalz.

    • I always thought Sukkot was the most hypocritical Israeli holiday. 40 days in the desert in a tent versus 67 years in a refugee camp in Gaza and so few Jews make the connection.

  • Rise of Hamas and failed peace process lead Israeli leaders and media to warn of 'third Intifada'
    • Rise of Hamas and failed peace process(meaning occupation to continue) lead Israeli leaders and media to warn of ‘third Intifada ’(meaning attempt to throw off the occupation)

  • Updated: Report: Obama will travel to Israel
    • Didn't uzi landau shut down orient house and seize all of its files when Sharon sent the tanks into.the west bank in 02/03? Is it open again?

    • Obama is an emperor like Bush was but he isn't deliberately keeping oil prices high. That has more to do with supply and demand. $20 a barrel would be far more suitable for obama's plutocrat backers. It is hard for the global economy to grow when the key input is so expensive.

    • Obama to travel to nepal. The anpac is the most influential.lobby in dc and nepali businessmen spent over half a billion dollars buying influence in the recent presidential election. It is supected that anpac influence was behind the 4 trillion dollar us invasion of sikkim. Nepal is now threatening to go to war against Ladakh claiming it is a centre of anti nepali sentiment and that if it gets nuclear weapons the world will be endangered.

  • Two-state process has been 'a charade' for two decades
    • Have you ever been to Kerak Des Chevaliers in Syria?

      link to

      Even if the bots somehow managed to expel all of the Palestinians, Israel would be doomed. Western landing strips in that part of Asia don't last.

      Israel will end up as a Brazilian.

    • Hophmi

      Peace means justice. If Jews want MA they have to reciprocate. I don't believe you can paint a smiley face on the turd of apartheid and call it peace.

      Israel was lovely while it lasted but only moral values endure long term.

    • If Maale Adumim is part of Israel, Herzliya should go to Palestine

    • The notion that apartheid and worse are the fulfilment of some jewish covenant with god and that.lieberman is what 80 generations of jews prayed for is beyond deluded. Israel is not prophecy. It is a nightmare. Those pre ww2 rabbis who encouraged their followers to stay well away from the holy land had the right idea. When israel collapses what will happen to the notion of the return to zion as a step to paradise? It looks like the road to hell.

  • Wieseltier holds on to a 'lost cause,' Jewish support for Israel
  • Joseph and Mary can't make it to Bethlehem, on Banksy's Christmas card
    • "…these Presbyterians do not merely disagree with Israel policy, but harbor animosity toward the Jewish people around the world. …They seek to legitimize terrorist enemies of the United States and Israel. [and]… erodes the moral credibility of the Presbyterian Church and contributes toward the church’s loss of stature in the eyes of Americans"

      Church and state are all mixed up there. Render under Caesar means nothing to Zionists. And implying the Presbyterians are antisemitic is beyond the pale.

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