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"If Obama loses the Senate in November"
If Republicans gain control of the Senate (and continue to control the House), it won't matter what Obama does with his last two years. During that time the Israelis will move vigorously to add significantly more settlements in the West Bank, creating new facts on the ground by 2016. Furthermore, it won't matter if Hillary or a Repub moves into the White House. Greater Israel will have been achieved. The debate will have moved from freezing the settlements to freezing Israeli transfer of Palestinians out of the West Bank.
"1. The Palestinians will agree to extend the negotiations for a year, until 2015."
Anti-two state forces in Israel undoubtedly sense that Republicans will take control of the Senate in the November mid-term elections. (They control the House for the foreseeable future.) If that happens, it's a pedal- to- the- metal dash to Greater Israel Land for the next two years, and a furious drive to repopulate the West Bank with Israelis. And if a Republican is elected president in 2016, particularly one of those that participated in the Sheldon fallatio-fest in Las Vegas last weekend, or if Hillary wins, there will be no stopping the Israelis from transferring Palestinians completely out of the West Bank.
Is there a way to access http://www.stand4facts.org without having to sign in? If not, would Phil or someone copy the full dossier and make it available on Mondoweiss, or some other website?
If the Israel Lobby loses in the Iran sanctions debate, as it did in its furious push for the US to bomb Syria, it will be 0-fer-2. Expect the Lobby response to be: "See, we're not as influential as everyone believes. We're just like every other lobby; win some, lose some."
I wonder what Lobby leader or group pissed off Feinstein so bad somewhere along the way that she would so aggressively and publicly argue against the Iran bill that Aipac wrote? Anyone know? Is there another reason?
There is no reason why two men of ideas should not talk to each other in a debate format.
As for Alterman, the man "doth protest too much, me thinks."
Actually Abrams pleaded guilty to 2 misdemeanor charges for withholding information from Congress. If he hadn't pleaded, felony charges were waiting for him.
Walter Pincus, veteran national security writer for Wash Post, who obviously has no fear of losing his job, had the perfect rejoiners to the Senate dolts questioning Hagel.
link to washingtonpost.com
Anyone know why the sketch was rehearsed but didn't make it to the televised live show? Someone alerted the Lobby, which put the hammer to the head of NBC Entertainment, who then put the screws to SNL boss Lorne Michaels? The sketch was funnier than anything else SNL showed last night.
The Free Beacon (or Free Bacon, as it is better known in DC) is a Bill Kristol creation with only one purpose: smear and distort anything that Kristol doesn't like. As for Adam Kredo, he's a bottom feeder of the worst kind. If FB was a paper publication, you wouldn't wrap fish in it or put it under the bird cage.
Is the Hagel nomination what Obama was thinking of when he reportedly told Peter Beinert at the White House late last year: "Hang in there" ?
Thanks, Phil and Annie, for this concise summary.
If Obama nominates Hagel, and he wins confirmation, AIPAC and the rest of the Lobby could still come out winners, in a perverse sort of way. After Mearsheimer and Walt's LRB article and book were published, one of the Lobby's loudest arguments was "There's no Lobby. And if there is, sort of, it's really not that powerful. It doesn't really control US policy in the Middle East."
Well, if Hagel becomes SecDef, the Lobby's argument will be affirmed, in a perverse sort of way.
Exactly. Bury their heads in the writings of the Old Testament prophets, too: Isaiah, Jeremiah, Micah and others. They spoke mightily in support of justice for all people.
With comments like this it can't be too long before Hillary makes a speech in Las Vegas and .... "oh, Mr. Adelson, what a surprise. How nice to see you. Of course we can have lunch .... just the two of us."
Phil, why are you giving Maher any notice? The man is an entertainer, not a thought leader. He exists to make people laugh, which is fine as far as it goes. But he doesn't deserve any mention on a serious blogsite like Mondoweiss. Absolutely no one with an IQ higher than 50 makes a decision based on anything Maher says or does.
Who is the NPR ombudsman?
Avigdor Lieberman looks like the classic Soviet bureaucratic thug in a cheap suit and sleeves about two inches too long.
Morsi to US: Live up to your Camp David commitments
Egypt holding the US accountable for promises made. Imagine that? I can't recall another country that has publicly held the US accountable for anything in a very, very long time. Good for you, President Morsi.
We know Menachem Begin and Israel kept none of its treaty commitments. Jimmy Carter was pretty blunt about that fact.
Disagree on Joe Klein. He was one of the first major MSM journalists to publicly criticize US policy in the Middle East, and Israeli policy, going back about 2-3 years. We all held our breath (as I'm sure he did) when the Lobby attacked. Did not lose his job; wasn't even suspended for a week.
His vent on NBC was straight from the heart. He noted that his son is a diplomat, which I interpret to mean his son is in the US foreign service. His criticism of Netanyahu's warmongering has become personal.
We can only hope his bold statements on NBC will help grow a spine on a few other MSM PEP journalists. Come out, come out, wherever you are.
The rats seem to be leaving the sinking ship ...
ColinWright: absolutely correct. When an experienced pol like Boxer, who has been a dependable ally for Israel, chooses to rebuke Netanyahu in writing -- he is a head of state, no less -- something is going on within the Lobby's political guard. If Chuck Schumer, "Israel's protector", doesn't confront Boxer over her letter, then we'll know something is REALLY going on.
"Palestinian teenagers who terrorize soliders ..."
I literally spit out my morning coffee onto my laptap when I read that line. How does a supposedly smart woman write something so ignorant? Anyway, I'm sure those Palestinian teenagers, who are now adults, and if they are still alive, are probably the only two people to appreciate her description.
“Something happens….then you make a choice and take a side..."
American: thanks for that Grahame Green quote. That happened to me a long time ago, and I've never regretted it.
Rightfully, there ought to be scores of Killing Without Consequences campaigns against Israeli soldiers, police and settlers.
Exactly right, gracie fr. Because he had traveled to the West Bank, including Hebron, and was able to see for himself, he could push back with authority against Jennifer Mizrahi's hasbara comments.
Exactly right, Pam. Everyone, PLEASE, contact the show's executive producer Jonathan Larsen via Twitter @JTLarsen and thank him for his courage to plan and carry out Sunday morning's show. If anyone know's Larsen's email at MSNBC, please share it so more people can thank him. You can always write a letter to Larsen and Chris Hayes at MSNBC offices at 30 Rock.
There must be some positive response to Sunday's segment from viewers to counter the threatening calls and emails from the Lobby.
When a "rubber bullet" hits a head, knee or other parts of the human anatomy, the result is not that much different than a lead bullet. Just ask all Palestinian kids who are injured for life because of Israeli rubber bullets. Israeli soldiers like to shoot at the legs and knees.
Just re-read the NYT correction. Last sentence: "It (Aipac) does not work directly for the state of Israel or its government."
Which I take to mean, therefore, that Aipac works indirectly for Israel. Otherwise, why use the modifier "directly" in the correction?
Reporter Jodi Rudoren was right the first time. The NYT may be sorry for giving her the J'sem post if her original "Aipac lobbies for Israel" line indicates her desire to be a real journalist in the region and not the Likud puppet that Ethan Bronner is.
Whoa! That's a big mistake for the NYT. Apparently the reporter who wrote the article, Jodi Rudoren -- the future Jerusalem bureau chief -- and the copy editor who missed it, apparently haven't completed their in-house hasbara training course. Hopefully, they never will.
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Linda Gradstein writes about congressional women visiting the West Bank in JTA, which is fine, but won't report it on NPR. What's that about? Was it her decision, or her editors' decision to keep the story out of NPR? I thought when Ellen Weiss, former vp for news, was fired, there would be some balance in NPR coverage of Israeli-Palestinian issues. I guess not.
A whole lot whiny of Ackerman. How could a writer who tries to look smart actually be so dumb? He didn't realize he was diving into the deep end of the pool. Next time, Spencer, write about what you know.
"barry mcaffrey is giving talks to NBC execs saying Israel might “pre-emptively” use a nuclear weapon"
If mccaffrey is actually saying the words -- "Israeli nuclear weapon" -- then that's a good thing. Because those three words are always missing in the discussion about Israel and Iranian nuclear buildup. Israel wants to keep it that way. Let's see if those three words actually are uttered on the NBC Nightly News or the talking heads on MSNBC in the days ahead. I doubt it, though, when you consider who owns NBC.
Substitute the Apartheid Wall for the Wailing Wall in the poster (and get rid of the birds) , and that's exactly what I'd want Obama to say.
In keeping with the glass container metaphor .... I believe it was Ariel Sharon advisor Dore Gold whose said Sharon's plan was to keep the peace process and Palestinian statement preserved in formaldehyde. That's where it remains, and the Quartet serves as the glass container. It sits quietly on the shelf. Likudniks point to it with admiration. It's really past time to bust open the Quartet. I mean, what do Russia and the UN really care about Israel and Palestine. In fact, the UN is powerless because of the US veto, if it had any power at all. The EU leadership should grow a spine and begin acting like the heavyweight it is, rather than the palooka it has allowed itself to become.
Can you imagine an American NPR reporter saying, "I'm not a Russian citizen (or Chinese or another ethnicity), but that being said, I'm part of Russia" and not being transferred to another beat? How can such a reporter's objectivity ever be trusted?
We can do something about this. Please write to the new president of NPR, Gary Knell and express your concerns. Send along Pat Carmeli's report. NPR's address is 635 Massachusetts Ave., NW ; Washington, D.C. 20001. Letters may not result in Gradstein being reassigned to another country or beat. However, because NPR is more sensitive than ever as to how it is being perceived by the listening public, Gradstein's reports will be more closely scrutinized by editors to ensure objectivity in her reports. To do nothing, means there is no chance of change in her reporting on Israeli-Palestinian issues.
Not so fast. It would have been farewell Mr. Pincus before Mearsheimer & Walt and The Israel Lobby article in London Review of Books in 2006, and the subsequent book. No longer. This is a very welcome change in the landscape.
Poor Tom Friedman; so soon old and too late smart, as the Amish saying goes.
Oscar Wilde probably had someone like Friedman in mind when he said: "the man states the obvious with such a sense of discovery."
The video frame on this blog post (above), with the IDF soldier's rifle barrel only inches from the Palestinian's face, captures in exquisite detail the depth of depravity to which the IDF, and the Israeli society it represents, has fallen. (What courage it must have taken for this unarmed Palestinian to stand his ground.) The IDF is an army of state-sponsored thugs. And, yes, won't Israelis be shocked when these state-trained hoodlums begin pointing weapons at them in the not too distant future. Because that's the direction Israel civil society is headed.
This photo frame should be made into a poster! It is powerful.
The Mondo t-shirt is quality cloth. Have worn mine numerous times to weekend farmer's market. which is always crowded, to see who might "salute." None yet, but people sure read it, as I watch their eyes scan across my chest.
With such limited space in the wasp post sunday Outlook section and scores of issues deserving commentary and analysis, the editors choose to publish a puff piece about Liz Taylor and her supposed love affair with Israel. Like who cares! There was nothing better to write about?
A major university from the last apartheid state in Africa has divorced itself from an Israeli educational institution. What an embarassment for Ben Gurion University and Israel, for that matter, to be shunned by a South African institution.
The latest and greatest example of what it means to be PEP -- Progressive Except for Palestine. In this case progressive no longer applies.
Shame, shame on you Harvard and your leadership for affirming and perpetrating the stench of Martin Peretz's racism against the Arab people by bestowing this honor upon him.
As long as Netanyahu remains prime minister, the two-state solution is not only dead, but the body is fast decomposing. Eventhough this is "the Holy Land" and miracles have been known to take place there, there is no chance for resurrection of the two state idea .... unless:
Obama publicly accepts Netanyahu's position and declares the only alternative now is a one-state solution. One vote for every person from from the Med Sea to the Jordan River. That's how democracies usually decide on their political leadership.
If the phrase "one-state" came out of Obama's mouth in the context of Israel's future , that, more than anything else would spark the Israeli public to accept the demographic reality in which they live and take the necessary political action to protect their future as a Jewish state rather than become a minority population.
John Mearsheimer very neatly layed out the various scenarios facing Israel in a speech a number of months ago. The usual suspects criticized Mearsheimer personally, as expected, but I couldn't find anyone who was able to refute the reality of what he said.
If Israelis won't make the right and realistic choice regarding two future states, then the choice must be made for them.
Phil, Everyone: Is there any video available of Chris Hedges speaking at this event?
Not just Rep. Jackson, but every member of the Black Caucus in the House of Representatives.
I don't know why Rep. Barbara Lee chose to sneak in the side door at this event, but she is an ally to the cause of cutting aid to Israel. Most recently, she was one of 35 members of the House who voted against a resolution condemning the Goldstone Report. Several years back she also voted against a resoution condemning the World Court's ruling against Israel's construction of a security fence on the West Bank. Google her name and you'll find the terms "anti-Israel" and "anti-semitic" often linked to her.
In addition to Rep. Lee, here are the other eight Democrat members of the House Appropriations subcommittee on State and Foreign Operations, which votes on non-military aid to Israel, that need to be pressured about how they vote: Chairwoman Nita Lowey (NY), Jesse L. Jackson (IL), Adam Schiff (CA), Steve Israel (NY), Ben Chandler (KY), Steven Rothman (NJ) and the newest member Jim Moran (VA) who is well known for his opposition of US aid to Israel and has the battle scars to prove it.
Democractic members of the Senate State and Foreign Operations subcommittee are: chairman Patrick Leahy (VT), Daniel Inouye (HI), Tom Harkin (IA), Barbara Mikulski (MD), Dick Durbin (IL), Tim Johnson (SD), Mary Landrieu (LA) and Frank Lautenberg (NJ).
Of course, Republican members of House and Senate subcommittees need to hear from their constituents as well, but I'll let someone else identify them.
These are the members of Congress that need to hear from their constituents to end the obscene amounts of aid to a country with the GDP of Spain.
Richard Haass, like all seemingly thoughtful and influential American Jews, resorts to the last line of defense against any tangible movement forward in the peace process by Israel: "It's not the right time." Haass is better than this. I wonder if the essay was actually drafted by Elliot Abrams, who is well known for his mind-bending logic in support of Israeli colonization.
A mideast blockbuster development, and where is the NY Times and correspondent Ethan Bronner with all his sources in the IDF? Was he scooped? Or did he know what the US defense chiefs told their IDF counterparts about danger to US troops, and simply didn't bother to report it. And what about his editors? The NYT continues to shill for Israel, both on the news and editorial pages.
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