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The War of Ideas in the Middle East
Why becasue you said so?
Zionism is a mirror image of Nazism in practically ever sense. Never mind that Lenni Brenner edited 51 Documents outlining Zionist collaboration with the Nazis.
Israelis and their allies have always used the same logic and propaganda tactics employed by the Nazis. The whole “Disputed Territories” nonsense was part and parcel of the Nazi strategy of conquest.
Easy. Land theft, ethnocentrism, tribalism, politicized ethnic fundamentalism, extremist organic nationalism, social Darwinism, biological determinism, essentialism, primordialism, perverted eugenic theory, opposition to race mixing for causing ethnic degeneration, and the corresponding belief in national revival through racial purity.
Oh for Christ's sake, will you hasbrats please refresh tyour talking points from your mother ship? The day after that story broke, the report issued a retraction that Erekat stated explicitly he was not referring to Jews, but to Israeli citizens.
It ever ceases to amaze me how impervious to facts you hasbrats are.
Apparently he doesn't find Stormfront sufficiently stimulating.
Ergo, Israel is therefore not a Jewish state, correct?
Please cite an example PFP. Evidence tends to carry more weight around here than straw men.
Ageed Annie, especially seeing as they're usually the same people pretending to champion the ethnic rights of groups like Kurds.
Stupid argument. Palestinians living in the US exist in such few numbers that they could not possibly be described as a society, whereas Jews are more populous in the US than Israel.
Secondly, how does that exonerate Ozick's repugnant racism and promulgations of baseless stereotypes - much as you admire it?
How about you start by eliminating Zionist BS, and stop pretending that Palestinian society
has has become dysfunctional for apparent reason?
How does this fascist harpy manage to attack the breakdown of Palestinian society without mentioning the brutal and repressive military occupation it is forced to live under?
Maybe when Israeli society finds itself in the same predicament, we can criticize Palestinians the way we condemn Israelis.
But that's what's so repugnant and dishonest about her crtiticisms. She pretends as though Palestinuan society has no precedent and is uniquely grotesque - as though it has come to be without rhyme or reason.
Criticism of Israelis/Zionists recognizes their ideology as vile and repugnant, but also recognizes the traits common to other sisfinctional societies that have come and gone.
He might be Annie, but I suspect that it's got more to do with ideology, which explains the piles of straw he's polluted this thread with.
No civics course is going to crack that hermetically sealed Zionist bubble.
Talk about insufferable hypocrisy. The behaviors she denigrates as grotesque in Palestinian society is revered and lauded in Iaeaeli society.
That's a great argument. What amazes me is that the argument about Palestinians being an invented people is based on a fraudulent book, yet some so called historians and academics continue to regurgitate this crap.
In reality, Israel is a recent invention, seeing as it did not exist prior to 1948.
Nope. Never was Palestine defined as a Palestinian state silly boy.
Drop that stick and step back from the straw man. Annie made no such argument.
Fair game yes, making racist stereotypes, no.
Zionism is racism. As Max Blumenthal and even Benny Morris have admitted, ethnic cleansing and expasionism is intrinsict to the DNA of Zionism. It's a tribal, racist, supremacitst ideology, so of course, those traits will remain common to all Zionists.
Sad but true. The term "liberal Zionism" is an oxymoron.
Becasue Palestinians arent't doing the expelling, mass murdering, home demolishing, land theft, expasion, or arguing for racial/ethnic purity, arguing against the demographic threat.
You keep alluding to anti-semitic aspects but someone seem completely unable to provide examples. Why is that?
Actually that's precisely what Israel has not done.
Rubbish. Israel had rebuffed repeated offers by Egytp to have negotiations since the late 60's. It took the near defeat in 1973 and for the US to beibe them to give back the Sinai.
Wrong again. Oslo was never a peace agreement, it was simply another prescription for domination of the Palestinians, and Israle still violated it.
Yeah right, they abandoned land in Arab states to steal land in Palestine.
At the expense of the native inhabitants of whatever land they were given was always the key goal. The homeland they were given happened to be someone else's.
Of course you do. You're a Zionist, and both Neturei Kart and DD are anti Zionist, though I suspect Stormfront has become a bastion of Zionism of late.
PFP obviously spends a lot fo time on those blogs, based on his/her first hand experience. Makes sense if you think about it. Neo Nazis are wielding Nisraeli flags at neo nazi demonstrations, so it's a natural mother ship for PFP .
You know, sometimes I can’t figure out the censors here.
That makes two of us. You should have been banned long ago on the grounds of Nakba denial.
That's like Charles Lanson arguing in court that he should be pardoned because the Son of Sam murders are still unsolved.
The reference to rape was a metaphor to illustrate the absurdity of the argument that the Palestinians should leave their oppressors and tormentors alone.
Having said that, rape was frequently used, along with terrorist bombs, massacres and mass expulsion, to create Israel in the first place.
To describe the conflict as a war makes as much sense as describing the mugging of an old lady as a gangland turf battle. It's so obscenely one sided.
How are they supposed to leave the Israelis alone when the Israelis refuse to leave them alone? Like I explained, that's like a rapist demanding that the woman he is abusing stop being a nuisance. As Talknic pointed out, it explains the extent of your sadism.
In fact, your posts here have become so deranged and obscene, I doubt you even believe the garbage you are posting here.
You're obviously so frustrated with having to defend the indefensible, that you've decided it's easier to post the most obscene and ahistorical crap you can think up, rather than formulate a legitimate argument.
Everything you've accused accused the Palestinians of doing in this post are precisely what Israel has been guilty of. You know it. Everyone knows it. Why you're wasting so much time on this forum is anyone's guess.
FB gave up enganging in hinest debate long ago when he realized he was out fo his depth. All he is here to do is make the most assinine and rediculous arguments he can think of to try and bring down the discourse.
Phil, Adam? This guy needs to go.
Why would Israel spend billions on building settlements and infrastructure if they intended to hand it over to the Palestinians? Do they have so much money that they can throw it around?
Why would they be spending money on pre-built buildings for Palestinians when there is a housing shortage in Israel?
Why would Israel have haggled for decades over land swaps if they intended to withdraw and hand it to the Palestinians?
Israel didn't pull out of Gaza as part of any peace deal with the Palestinians. The move was decided by Israeli hard liners who determined that the resources being spent to defend and maintain the illegal Gaza settlements would be better spent defending and enabling the settler project in the West Bank.
That was AFTER Israel fired 8,000 shells into Gaza in the space of 12 months, beginning the month they completed the withdrawal.
Now why would Israel have done that (as well as turning Gaza into a prison), if the object of the exercise was to create a mini Palestinian state?
After all, it was you who argued that BDS is tantamount to the destruction of Israel, so how could a blockade have yielded anything but a ruined society?
Based on recent history, you'd have to be delusional to believe that. Rabin was assassinated by an Israeli who's views are shared by the current Israeli government. He was considered an extremist at the time, but he and Netenyahu were both fiercely opposed to the Oslo Accords. In fact, Bibbi boasted of how the sabotaged them.
That's truly mind numbing, even by the standards of your Ziocaine addled brain. It would be like arguing that women can avoid being raped so long as they stop bothering the rapist.
How are they supposed to leave the Israelis alone when the Israelis are occupying them and stealing their land?
Wrong Dumbass. Israel signed and ratified the Road Map, in which they agreed to stop building settlements as a first step before final status negotiations.
If Israel won't even respect their own treaties, then what's the use talking to them in the hope of comming to new agreements that they will ignore anyway?
He's probably already done that. Who knows, he might be the re-incarnation of Witty or Werdine. Given his plea to lift the ban on Nakba denial, it's probably Werdine.
Both of which are considered anti Israel in Israel.
Which proves the point.
He won't last here long Annie.
Phil and Adam aren't going to get sucked into being balckmailed he way they were over at DK - they're not dedicated to getting Obama re-elected. He/she is goign to find there simply isn't an audience for their crap here.
Yes Annie,
It's pretty obvious that playforpalestine is not the least bit interested in debating the topic, but wants to drag down the debate into a quagmire of straw men and ad hominems.
It's pathetic really, but what else are they gonna do? It's not like they have a case.
Please point to those examples or admit you are lying.
Again, please point to those examples or admit you are lying.
Lying, support for ethnic cleansing and racism is not tolerated, so yes, that might take place from time to time.
The ones who support Israel are not interested in peace full stop.
I agee with Annie,
Ban Fred for Nakba denial. He makes no effort to engage in hinest debate, so there's no point allowing him to pollute the forum.
Rubbish. Everyone in the territory was a Palestinian in 1920.
And it is not a gamble to resist being expelled. A gamble suggests they had a choice to avoid such a fete, but as Ben Gurion pointed out, their very existence jealousies the creation of a Jewish state.
No it isn't. The boycott of apartheid South Africa didn't destroy South Africa.
And secondly, Israel could put a stop to BDS tomorrow simply by obeying international law.
SOS to all hasbrats: When all else fails and you have nowhere to run - renwmber the Holocaust.
What court of law and according to what laws? You see Fred, these scum bags, that you adore, have no juridicition in this territory, so the court has no authority.
Of course, there wouldn't be a problem if every Jewish settler or Israeli who was living on land that lebonged to Palestinians had been evicted.
Of course, the fact that these men are smiling at th
Just thougt of another:
"waiting for a partner for peace"
We should think up some slogans to put above this picture:
"Remember the Holocaust"
or
"Remember, we're the victims in all thus"
or
"we have the right to defend ourselves"
Agreed Diana, which is why most of us object to describing it as a Jewish state.
I believe the clinical term would be “sociopaths"
Thanks for teh comic relief ymedad. I love how you correct "errors", not by provising answers, but by playing dumb and asking infantile questions.
Here's a few of your funnier moments:
This is a trend that mirrors the Christian flight throughout the Palestinian Authority. However, this exodus began long before Israeli checkpoints and the security wall.
Of course it did you dolt, because the occupation preceeded the Israeli checkpoints and the apartheid wall.
It is estimated that nearly two-thirds of the Christian population fled during the time when Jordan occupied the West Bank.
Acording to what source?
The Christian population under the Palestinian Authority has suffered from a negative growth-rate and now number less than 50,000, or about 2.4 percent of the population".
Under the Palestinian Authority? Who are you kidding? Israel controls 100% of the West Bank and EJ.
Mitri Raheb is a Palestinian, a Christian and a Lutheran minister from Bethlehem. He runs schools, cultural centers and health clinics. [and Israel considers him ma 'racist' and an 'anti-Semite']
Oh, well if Israel says so, then it must be true.
Israel is the only Middle East nation where the Christian population has grown in the last half century
That's hillarious. The Palestinian population in 1940 was roughly 1 million, 11 to 12 percent of the which were Christians. That means that prior to the ethnic cleansing carried out by Israel in 1948, the Christian population in Palestine was roughly what it is today. Yeah, some growth!!
And what is this doing in the transcript?
Yeah damn it, who allowed that bit in? Hasbra hasn't come up with a talking point to cover that one.
On the contrary. 1,500 Palestinians are able to climb over, around, under and through the wall every week. Any suicide bomber could easily get into Israel.
Idiotic argument. No suicide bomber is persuaded to commit suicide because of money.
I never heard anyone but an Israelis or Israeli apologists making the argument that any state has a right to exist.
That's precisely what Bibbi is doing by hyping the non existent Iran nuke threat.
This is truly priceless.
Let's hood this is a sign of more public humiliation for Israeli propagandists and officials.
I wonder if Bob Simpn is going to get any nasty phone calls from his boss.
Exactly. Israel have violated the obligation to withdraw from the OT and to stop building settlements - an obligation they violated from day 1.
It never ceases to amaze me how shameless and unaware you hasbrats are. Israel has been in violation of the Camp David accords from the day after they signed them. The bribe maoney the US is threatenening to withhold is not because Egypt is violating the accords so much as not doing what it's told. You might recall that the aid to Israel was also offered as an incentive to stick to the agreement, but you won't hear Washington threatening to withold payment even as Shamir and Netenyahu spit in the faces of US presidents.
As for revocation of the licenses to the US NGOs, you are aware I take it that the activities of these NGOs do indeed breach the country's sovereignty. In fact, their very activities would be illegal in the US. No foreign entity is legally entitled to intervene in US politics.
It comes as no surprise that this rampant hypocrisy has gone over your head.
It's good to see all that stolen inttectual property going tp good use.
It's Israel that stands in the way, having repratedly rejected the Atab Peace offer to normalize relations with the Arab world. Israel has always regarded itself as part of Europe. It has no desire to be part of the ME.
In fact, Israel is paranoid of the US becomming friendly with countries like Iran, for fear it would be relegated to lower status if the US were to become allied with a Middle Easten country that has something to offers the US - hence the hype about Iran's non existent nukes.
In other words, Fred is making stuff up again.
Is there a single Arab country with higher rates of anemia than Gaza Fred?
The decade long blockade of Iraq, that killed half a million Iraqi children, had nothing to do with stopping Iraq from taking Kuwait.
Though it's a putty the US didn't give the same treatment to Israel after they invaded the occupied territories.
Israel was created by and founded on terrorism Fred. Israeli PM, Menachem Begin, boasted of introducing terrors to the region.
Terrorism against Palestiniancivilians is not limited to Muslims. Bombers who use 500 and 1000lb bombs. With a kill radius 20 times that if a suicide vest, attempt to kill large crowds of civilians, often without regard to whether the victims will be just Muslin, or Christian as well.
What would they say to occupation or apartheid Fred? The religious nut in Israel will tell you it's God's will.
How else does one explain such an immoral, inhumane, saddistic and unjust ideology?
Very funny Fred.
The wp in the wp (shells, which all landed harmlessly), came from unexploded Israeli shells.
Suicide attacks ended in 2006.
Rocks? Are you serious?
The difference being of course that Israel has repeatedly threatene to bomb Iran, while Iran has rejected the very idea of nukes.
No IDF soldier is therevtobdefend his own life anymore than a burglar is there to defend us after a home invasion. The soldiers are on someone else's land, and their very presence on that territory constitutes an actor agression, so one could never argue that they are being attacked.
If you're so concerned about the plight of Surian refugees Noland, the surely you would agree a ceasefire is necessary.
Sohow can rejecting the ceasefire benefit the rebels? How could that strategy possibly benefit civilians and lessen bloodshed
Look on the bright side Keith
Lybia's oil resources are right back where they belong - in the hands of Europe. At least intervention pays dividends.
Yes, the operative word being no violent and the fact that it was an Egyptian uprising, not one high jacked by Al Qaeda/Arab League/NATO as we w in Lybia. What's more is that unlike Mubarak, Assad still enjoys majority support in Syria.
I'm all for AssD being overthrown if that's the will of the Syria.n public, but it's obvious that the outside players are high jacking the uprising to isolate Iran.
Of course, Noland's heros didn't do any of that nasty stuff in Lebanon now did they? Sabra and Shatilla and Qana never happened, along with the 20,000 Lebanese that Israel laid waste to.
Like I already pointed out, the leads of the Lybian rebels are directly conne the to Al Qaeda.
Yes, the group that killed Vittorio Arragoni were Salafists with links to Al Qaeda.
Why would Israel make sucha claim if it wasn't true, when they themselves are supporting the rebels?
You're really not too good at this Hasbra thing are you?
You mean like you're doing for your apartment in Tel Aviv?
It's not the disagreeing that gives you away, it's your Zionist tone and your Zionist logic, as well as your trade mark Zionist ability to ignore mainstream reports about The involvement of Al Qaeda and Jihadist mercenaries backed by the Arab League.
It means that given how there are topics of major relevance to the plight of Plaestinians posted here almost daily, and that you have ne ER seen fit to participate in the discussion until now that you are not who you claim to be.
It's a paradox how you Hasbrats spend so much of your existence lying, but as so bad at it.
That might be true of those who originally participated in the demonstrations, but that hasn't stopped Al Qaeda and those backing the counter Arab Spring Revolution, giving their full support of the revolution giving their support to it or participating.
Are you suggesting that the BBC is helping Assad's propaganda campaign or is Ayman al-Zawahiri a puppet of Assad?
link to bbc.co.uk
Have you already forgotten that the leaders of the Lybian resistance is intimately connected to Al Qaeda?
link to articles.cnn.com
None of this is any secret. Even Israel's leadership has akowledged it. So how do you explain your own ignorance "trust me, I'm really a Palestinian" Noland?
Yeah, and I'm Bibbi's lost half brother. Sorry if we don't buy your BS, but guys like you have come and gone - claiming to be an Arab/Muslim/Palestinian yadi yadi yadi and turn out to be Zionist shills.
Yes, the Syrian government has a lousy human rights record, as does every other country in the ME, including Israel. Like we saw in Lybia, there was a real uprising in Syria (albeit a minority) but like we saw in Lybia, it has been highjacked by Al Qaeda and the CIA. That explains the suicide bombers.
link to asharq-e.com
Yeah right, your favourite site that you never bothered to comment on. You're hasbra slip in showing. Game's up. Time for you to invent a new identity. Maybe you can come back as a liberal Zionist in your next life.
You simply cannot stomach that Nassaralah kicked Israel's ass twice and has benefitted politically as a consequence. Of course, he did not blame the dead Syrians for being stubborn, he was blaming the Al Qaeda backed resistance for rejected ting the ceasefire. They're also killing civilians your puts.
No more so than Israel, and none of them are fascist, brutal occupiers.
Human rights have always suffered during war and occupation. These groups at least have the excuse that they are resisting occupation.
Israel has never fought for human rights under any circumstances.
While there is no dispute your knowledge of Hezbollah us superficial, those who know anything about Hezbollah know fir a fact that they have no desire to impose Sharoah Law.
Gays are not mentioned anywhere in the Likud Charter or Israel's declaration of independence.
Hezbollah's charter mentions nothing about imposing Shariah on Lebanon.
There's nothing backward about resisting occupation or imperialism.
No. Assad has accepted a ceasefire. The resistance has rejectected it.
You mean like Mubarak?
Body parts dealer? I had no idea he was an Israeli?
Thanks for your post Shunra,
A fabulous insight and highly informative.
Like all hasbrats, Fred has perfected the art of sticking his head in the sand.
link to 972mag.com
link to ynetnews.com
link to elainemeinelsupkis.typepad.com
link to mondoweiss.net
link to maki.org.il
If they can't control that emotion, they shouldn't be carrying guns.
What did the Danish protester do that provoked such a huge reaction and why did he have to lie about it - by claiming he had been previously assaulted?
You sound insane sometimes Dim. If this is representative if the IDF, then they are a threat to the world.
I wonder what she thinks Bibbi's golden hair makes him look like?
Look up the Road Map of 2002 you ignoramus. Israel signed and ratified an agreement with required them to stop building settlements as a pre cursor to final stage negotiations.
Fayyad would be a fool to meet Bibbi in person as that would confer legitimacy on Israel's transgression of it's conmitnrnts under it's own treaty.
And why waste time talking to someone who can't even stick to agreements they have signed and ratified?
If they wanted the Zhews kicked out of it, then wh did they wait until 1940? They ad centuries to kick them out.
Rubbish. Thy din't have 44% because as Ben Gurion said, the partition was only temporary in his mind and would not stand UN the way of Israel reclaiming all of Palsrine.
There was never an offer on the table.
Duh, that's the argument he is making dufus. That explains why Israel refuses to stop building settlements, while pretending to be interested in peace.
Where did you learn arithmetic Fred? By counting to 20 every time you inhaled a joint?
Israel steals water from the West Bank and pimps it into Israel. The allocation given to the Palestinians is not what's left over, it's based on whatnIsrael feels like giving them.
How can the Palestinian Authority be responsibile for providing water to its people when it doesn't control the water?
Most of the Jews I know are eithe is gusted with Israel or too ashamed to discuss the topic at all.
Of course, I may know only self hating Jews, but that would be a rather surprising statistical circumstance.
The reality presented at Mondoweiss isn’t totally wrong, only mostly wrong.
Everything you've posted here has been farcical at best, or Hasbra to he nth degree. Do you think anyone takes you seriously?
I bet there are more Jews killed in Israel than in the city you live.
I'm not pretending about anything. PZ admits there are no Arabs living in the settlements, thus they are Jewish only roads.
Thanks for confirming they are Jewish only roads.
Oh please. I find it really hard to believe you still pretend that's a distinction without a difference by now.
Rubbish. Israel was not compelled at all. They had so much time on their ands that Meir Amit, the head of Mossad travelled to Washinton to discuss Israel's plans to attack Egypt with MacNamara. NacNamara said there was no evidence Nasser would attack and even if he did, Israel would easily prevail. He ECM predicted the war would be over in 5 days.
Amit said Israel agreed with his assessment.
Your assertion is bunk. You can't even bring yourself to say Israel attackd Syria because you know Israel attacked Syria.
I always love how Zionists think that they can determine a law or resolution is null and void jus because it suits them.
The preamble declared that Israel had to withdraw from the territories it seized in 1967. As Israeli Foreign Minister Abba Eban revealed at the time, he understood full well that Resolution 242 calls for Israel’s complete withdrawal: “The words ‘in the recent conflict’ convert the principle of eliminating occupation into a mathematically precise formula for restoring the June 4 Map.” During negotiations to determine Resolution 242’s wording, Abba Eban failed in an attempt to delete the phrase “in the recent conflict.” (Comment by Foreign Minister of Israel and Telegram 3164, UK Mission in New York to Foreign Office, 12 Nov 1967). Moshe Dayan also realized that Resolution 242 calls for full withdrawal and urged the government to reject it. During a closed session of the Labor Party, he counseled against endorsing Resolution 242 as "it means withdrawal to the 4 June [1967] boundaries, and because we are in conflict with the SC [Security Council] on that resolution." (Daniel Dishon (ed.), Middle East Record, v. 4, 1968, Jerusalem: 1973)
The Mitchell report repeatedly noted that resolution 242 requires Israel to first withdraw its armed forces from the territory it occupied in 1967 before the Palestinians can be asked to terminate all states of belligerency. It also stressed the illegality of Israel's unilateral annexation of Jerusalem and its settlement policy. Those have been imposed by the threat or use of force. See the findings under the heading "Fourth Geneva Convention" on pdf page 65.link to consilium.europa.eu
As Caradon said, secure borders are recognized borders and Isrsel's borders were recognized in 1948.
Fair enogh Hophmi.
BTW. Have you stopped beating your wife?
No one said that.
Really? Seriioysly Hop, you're delusial at the best of times, but you really are taking it to a whole new level on this thread.
link to haaretz.com
The PM of Israel @IsraeliPM
Iran must stop all enrichment of uranium, both 20% and 3% and move all enriched material out of its territory 1/2
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When did Iran start violating the NPT Hop and what are they doing that violated the NPT?
There is no law that prevents Iran from withdrawing from the NPT and making nukes either.
The thing that makes debating this topic with your hsbrats so laborious, is that people like you and Hop are so painfully ignorant of the topic, not to mention insufferably hypocritical.
Because:
1. The IAEA has no evidence that Parchin is a nuclear facility. Under the NPT, the IAEA has no authority to even ask up inspect a facility unless it has been declared to be one.
2. Parchin is a military installation and the Iranians have every reason to prevent anyone from visiting the place.
If you have nothing to hide, why not install a camera in your shower and hook it up to the Internet Mayhem?
It's actually pretty basic logic. If the police have a warrant to search your property, they have to:
1. have a reason
2. only do it once unless they come up with another reason to convince a judge that they need to again
Broad and Sanger, the Judy Miller's of the Iran nuke debate, have been caugth lying in this topic repeatedly, and when they are not lying, they are trying to implicate Iran by innuendo. Note how the report says the inspectors have been denied access to "a series of facilities" but not "nuclear faclities"? Under the NPT, Iran has the right to deny entrey to facilities that are not nuclear sites.
Not particulalry. I am not internested in what Iranians say but it does debunk the myth that Iran claims to want nukes and wants to use them against Israel.
But it is for Israel to deman Iran give up it's civilian nuclear program and it is for Israel to bomb Iran, or even to threaten to bomb Iran.
Yes, and it even agreed to it under UNSC242.
And FYI.
1. It was not attacked, Israle attacked Egypt
2. It was not attacked on all sides
Oh that's OK then. You didn't mention Nazi Germany, you simpy invojed the name of the worst Nazi of them all. So you;'re not trying to make a Nazi comparion, you're tryign to make a Hitler comparison.
GOT IT!!
And I didn't mean to refe to you as a necropheliac, just Charles Manson.
You still haven't explained why you don't accept the findings of 16 US intelligence agencies and the Mossad, that Iran has not yet made the descision to even produce nukes.
Mayhem, you never turn down an opportunity to wear egg on your face face do you?
1. Parchin is not a nuclear facility, so the IAEA has no business askign to inspect the site.
2. The allegations the IAEA is making (fed to it by the Israelis) is based on pre 2003 accusation. As it turns out, the Iranians allowed the IAEA to inspect Parchin TWICE in 2005. As Oli Heonone (who was head of the IAEA Safeguards Section at the time) reported, there was nothing there. So to sum up, the IAEA actually has no legitimate reason to visit Parching on any grounds.
3. Gareth Porter revealed that Iran did not deny the IAEA access to Parchin, but agreed to allow the IAEA inspectors to visit the site if the IAEA agreed to put the issue of Parchin to rest once it had inspected the place. Sounds reasonable, but the Washingon puppet, Yuki Amano, refused to accept those terms and ordered his team to return home without further discussion.
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Please promise to stick around Mayhem. We need wingnuts like you for comic relief.
I wish I shared your enthusiasm, but Obama has demonstrated time and time again that he will either back down or do something utterly stupid.
Agreed Hophmi. Merely raising the subject of necrophelia and you in the same sentence should be perfectly acceptable, provided I make sure to qualify that I am not alleging you partake in such practices.
Stalling tactic for what Hophmi? What has Iran been doing while using diplomacy to buy time? Surely, with all that stalling, Iran must have produced something nefarious, which at least one of the 16 US intelligence angecies or Mossad would have sniffed out.
So what is it?
Mine and that of every US intelligence agency and Mossad.
What's your position and what evidence is it based on?
You are one very cofnused and ignorant puppy Hop. In 2003, the Iranians made a grand bargain offer to Washington, whic included normalizing relations and putting their entire nuclear program on the table.
Washington rebuffed the offer.
In 2003 - 2005, under the Paris agreement, Iran stopped enrichment completely and agreed to the additional protocols while the E3 were supposed to come up with a proposal. The E3 missed the deadline and was given a 6 month extension. After missing the second deadline, Iran pulled out and re-commenced enrichment.
At no stage since 2003 has Iran been in violation of the NPT. At no stage since 2003, have inspectors been denied access to Iran's nuclear facilities. At no stage since 2003 has any evidence of a nuclear wepoans program been produced.
You simply don't have a clue what you are talking about.
And you have all that huge backlog of MAD comics to catch up on because it's p[retty obvious that facts and evidence are of no interest to you.
Translation: Israel embraces the leadership of one fo the most vile regimes in the world, not to mention the main financiers of Al Qaeda, and poor Mayhem is running around rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
You have to love how Mayhem criticizes the Syrian's for putting down what may have been the latest Arab Spring uprising, while his tribe are buddying up with the Saudis who did the same thing in Bahrain.
You have to love how these one trick ponies always pull the Hitler card when the facts aren't on their side.
They have been wrong for 3 decades of accusations about Iran making nukes yes. They were also wrogn about Iraq.
That's because they haven't. This reflects Iran's position even before the santions were imposed. Before the Fordo facility was declared, Iran requested feorm the IAEA that the internationa community supply it's TNR reactor with 20% enriched fuel. They didn't even intend to enrich to 20% until the West said no, and forced Iran to produce it.
And speaking of birds of a feather Mayhem,
Any guesses for who was Apartheid South Africa's best friend during it's apartheid years?
LOL.
They sure do Mayhem, and there was no better example than when Netenyahu and Abdullah of Saudi Arabia stood united, shoulder to shoulder, danding that the West join them in support of Mubarak during the Egyptian demonstrations.
How poignant that Bibbi would share the stage with one vicious and brutal dictator in support of another?
Great post ClickandDagger.
The danger with AIPAC is that they play for keeps a d they play dirty. Every politician in Washington has skeletons in their closet, and there is a mutual code of silence they all respect with regard to one another's dirty laundry.
AIPAC are not just a lobby, they are a unit of Israeli intelligence. They have bugged, filmed, and gone through the private details of every member of Congress with a fine toothed comb.
They have all the dirt on the law makers, the name of every hooker, young boy, drub dealer they have come into contact with, and they will use it.
In 2003, an organisation called “Crisis Resolution” or something, issues a report called “Iran – time to talk”. On the cover of the report was a photo of a sinister B-52 releasing dozens of bombs.
That is the conclusion shared by all 16 US intelligence agencies, which reported that finding in the 2007 and 2010 NIE. Is also what Dennis Blair, General Martin Dempsey (head of JCOS) both reported in their testimony to the US Senate.
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In which case, they are also fudging the gullible Mossad, who reported this year than Iran has not even decided make a nuke.
but in my opinion, many Westerners, including of course most of the frequenters of this blog, wish, yearn for Iran to have a nuclear bomb.
Your opinion is clearly based on what you read on tabloids and the back of cereal boxes.p