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  • Al Aqsa mosque is closed off for first time in 47 years as tensions flare
    • A most excellent response from the foreign minister. I would have just repeated the name "Folke Bernadotte" to the odious bouncer should he have any complaints about the actions of the Swedish government.

  • Chilean soccer team will lose Palestinian-map jersey, as NYT links incident to -- anti-Semitism
    • Stupid of them to mention the "Yid" incident. Spurs fans have continued to use that word in chants to this day. I guess the NYT thinks they are self-hating Jews then. Stupid of them to combine the two stories. Also the Anelka incident is highly argumentative. It's a good thing they didn't have yellow jerseys either. That may have been seen as anti-Semitic then...

  • Obama praises Israel to high heavens as Israeli and American elite cement 'unbreakable' alliance
    • Yeah, such great allies. True friends generally don't spy on you. Generally don't send people to steal your nuclear secrets either. It's all so very disgusting. Netanyahu treats us like some child's toy because we have a feckless Congress who only sees dollar signs.

  • Zionists thrill that Obama will recognize ancient Jewish connection to 'homeland' (undoing his Cairo error)
    • If we'd fix the campaign finance laws then things would be better in the US. More power to the people then. Unfortunately, money doesn't talk it swears in this country.

    • "Between the years 134 and 1099, “we know of no attempts by the followers of rabbinical Judaism to make pilgrimages to the holy city” of Jerusalem."

      A little levity for everybody. In 1099, there was a siege of Jerusalem. Did the Jews decide that was a good time to start making pilgrimages? Or right after? If so, I hope they fired their travel agents when they returned! I know. I know. The kingdom of Jerusalem was founded after it. Not that it was a particularly good time for visiting.

    • In a more recent example, they also have deeds to their lands. Actual written documents.

    • By the way, here is a link to some great quotes by Gandhi on the whole issue of Palestine:

      link to gandhiserve.org

    • Eh, the Jews have been doing their bit not to remind the so-called Christian populations of the US and other places that the Christians of the ME do not matter so much. Downplaying their suffering at the hands of the Occupation.

    • O, good grief. Took too long to write that and people came up with some of my points anyway. O, well. Yes, exactly. Christians have just as much right to the Holy Land as well. We've been there for 2,000 years as well. O, right. The next line. Oops.

    • O, he must feel a connection. That's ridiculous. Canada is a much more important ally to the US. Has anybody ever said that about a president with reference to our neighbors to the North? It's just ridiculous the amount of influence(power or weight) that Israel has in American foreign policy. It should be based on size and population no more important than say a Sweden or Belgium is. Maybe its location means something else but hell, we need to leave all of the people alone in the ME. That and our foreign policy(plus the troops in Saudi Arabia. Let's have Muslim troops in the Vatican then) is why we were attacked on 9/11. And we are not "allowed" to criticize the country because they have members of a group who were once persecuted. Like nobody else was persecuted ever in history at all. Do we not criticize the Sudanese or the Bosnians or anybody else? Can't think of any ethnic group or religious group that never has been persecuted at one point. Anyway, I end this with a quote:

      Answer to Question by United Press of America, by Gandhi - From The Bombay Chronicle, June 2, 1947

      What do you feel is the most acceptable solution to the Palestine problem?

      The abandonment wholly by the Jews of terrorism and other forms of violence.

  • US Jews leave 'Gatekeepers' asking why we give money to Israel -- says Oren, outraged
    • This is very true. Ambassadors are indeed supposed to be very loyal. But Oren looks more and more like Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf though every day.

  • Landmark 'NYT Magazine' cover story ennobles resistance in Nabi Saleh
    • Yes, good point. That is true. A small step forward. Bravo to them for printing it in the first place even if they held it up for a long time it seems.

    • Yes, unfortunately, like the word "jihad", the actual meanings of the word will get lost as opposed to the connotations. Jihad or Intifada are not necessarily violent in nature. Jihad can mean an own personal struggle. A jihad against excessive weight for example. But alas, we have a misinformed public. So yes, the optics of it are not good. But some progress though.

  • Advertising campaigns target AIPAC and US aid to Israel across Washington DC
    • "But without the money to stifle debate(and politicians) then things will bend towards the views of the majority of people around the country on MW for example." I wrote that incorrectly. Maybe the views of the people around the country will be more like the majority of those on MW.

    • I agree. It's atrocious the way we give in to AIPAC. But it begs the questions, why? It's all about money and perceived power. If we take the money out of politics then we will lessen the power of the NRA and AIPAC. Now the power of the NRA has been somewhat overhyped. For them it's more of an issue of our weak-kneed politicians but why should AIPAC have any power at all? I mean it's not like there are so many members who support them throughout the country. It's like the Cuban people of Florida. It's strategic and it matters in certain places. But without the money to stifle debate(and politicians) then things will bend towards the views of the majority of people around the country on MW for example. If more Americans learned how we give in so easily to Israel on so many things then their own patriotism will be impugned and maybe they'll stand up and say "Hey, you can't do this or that. You can't offend me and my country like that." But that can only work there is free speech and equal time and money does not make that happen. Money doesn't talk, it swears.

    • link to mondoweiss.net

      I know this is somewhat out of context(but this is a new thread0 but I want to see if my reading was correct since I'm a little late to the discussion about Zero Dark Thirty and the whole issue of torture. Am I correct in my assumptions? I would like people's opinions on here since I largely agree with Philip and others on the whole issue of Zionism and Palestinians. Am I too hopeful for consciousness raising from the American people? They won't say "Hey, that was awful how we got Bin Laden." But they'll think the ends justify the means? If so, then I feel sorry for them.

  • The 99%: Netanyahu successful as Americans agree on Iranian 'nuclear threat'
    • I was looking for a recent thread to put this in since I'm a little late to the party. I see that you mentioned Zero Dark Thirty:

      I haven't seen the film. I don't think I want to but the impression I got from the Time magazine cover story(which I read a few days ago) is that this is a film that Progressives or at least anti-war people should like for it shows that war is messy and that we sold our souls in order to get Bin Laden. It was quite "grey" in this way. It showed that things are murky in this new war. At least that's what I got from the article. I mean if it showed that we used torture to get Bin Laden then I think that is good then. I mean it showed that we were inhumane when we wanted to get him. It shows that we were not sensible people. I think that's good in that it shows that we weren't always the "good" men and women. So I don't get what the beef is from progressives then. Is it because they showed them using torture and that was justified because it "worked" and therefore the means justified the ends? Well, I don't feel that way. I didn't even want Bin Laden killed. I think we should have put him on trial. But I know I'm in the minority here so maybe the general public will feel differently and think "Hey, this torture stuff is good since it helped us get Public Enemy #1." Well, if that is so then I feel sorry for the general public. But then I would also feel sorry for the progressive community for not sticking to their beliefs and hoping that people might feel differently after seeing the film. I think it depends on what angle you take coming into the film. I see the CIA, the MIC and the military in general as doing nothing but wrong. So I hope they are not chest bumping throughout the film. If they are doing what we would consider horrible things then that just proves their immorality to me.

  • The liberal publicity line on 'Zero Dark Thirty'
    • I haven't seen the film. I don't think I want to but the impression I got from the Time magazine cover story(which I read a few days ago) is that this is a film that Progressives or at least anti-war people should like for it shows that war is messy and that we sold our souls in order to get Bin Laden. It was quite "grey" in this way. It showed that things are murky in this new war. At least that's what I got from the article. I mean if it showed that we used torture to get Bin Laden then I think that is good then. I mean it showed that we were inhumane when we wanted to get him. It shows that we were not sensible people. I think that's good in that it shows that we weren't always the "good" men and women. So I don't get what the beef is from progressives then. Is it because they showed them using torture and that was justified because it "worked" and therefore the means justified the ends? Well, I don't feel that way. I didn't even want Bin Laden killed. I think we should have put him on trial. But I know I'm in the minority here so maybe the general public will feel differently and think "Hey, this torture stuff is good since it helped us get Public Enemy #1." Well, if that is so then I feel sorry for the general public. But then I would also feel sorry for the progressive community for not sticking to their beliefs and hoping that people might feel differently after seeing the film. I think it depends on what angle you take coming into the film. I see the CIA, the MIC and the military in general as doing nothing but wrong. So I hope they are not chest bumping throughout the film. If they are doing what we would consider horrible things then that just proves their immorality to me.

  • The reviews are in: 'Zero Dark Thirty makes me hate muslims'
    • Yes, this is what I mean. This is why I don't get the complaints from the progressive side. I could see Conservatives getting upset but they want the military to be heroic all of the time. I hope people read my comment here . I'm a little late to the party:

      link to mondoweiss.net

  • 4 myths about the Israeli attack on Gaza
    • That scumbag Netanyahu said that no "Western" journalist was hit in the one attack as if that should divide people. I hate the coded language and everything.

  • As the discourse shifts, 'NYT' stays rooted in the past (the 1800s to be exact)
    • Yes, I think this is the same book that I have. It's called "Israel-Palestine On Record: How the New York Times Misreports Conflict in the Middle East". It's by Howard Friel and Richard Falk. A very good book. I have it on my shelf next to the Israel Lobby which is also a very good book.

  • Israeli strategy is unsuccessful, just foments hostility by oppressed -- Piers Morgan
    • "It is no wonder Bar Refaeli got b*tchslapped for speaking out of line , hoping everyone was safe."

      I don't know what you're talking about. Is this in reference to the TSA incident?

  • From London to Cairo to Barcelona, Gaza assault sparks protests
    • That's interesting considering Chris is very much on the pro-Israel side. That segment on the end of his show tonight was disgraceful but not surprising.

  • 'Up With Chris' on MSNBC features 2 Palestinians out of 4 guests -- and bankruptcy of neocon Frum's claims
    • Yes, Melissa Harris-Perry. I like her too but unfortunately her time slot isn't too good either. Both shows are good too in that they actually discuss topics much more thoroughly than you are likely to get elsewhere in the MSM. Also I caught Hanan Ashwari on CNN the other day. I forgot who was interviewing her right now. It wasn't Piers though.

    • Bravo to Chris. Unfortunately, he is only on weekend mornings. Still it's a start. We need to hear this on our more well-known Sunday morning shows as well. Also in prime-time to counter the false narratives that we are hearing from the Israel-firsters. Good of the guests to bring up the Occupation. The day-to-day suffering of the Palestinians is practically ignored in the US media. The checkpoints, the demolitions, the violence from the settlers are things we never hear about on the news. The settlers even attack olive groves. O, the irony.

  • The light doesn't get much greener than this: Obama admin gives Israel the go ahead to escalate in Gaza
  • Dissecting IDF propaganda: The numbers behind the rocket attacks
  • NY ads depicting Palestinian dispossession are termed anti-Semitic by 'Jewish community'
    • Let me see if I got this right. If the graphic above was placed alongside something like "This is how and when we created the glorious state of Israel." then everything in their view would have been okay? Just basically the problem is that it showed the loss of land by the Palestinians instead of showing that the lands were gained by the Israelis. I guess if it said "Lands gained by the Israelis after defeating the evil Arabs in wars and conflicts" then that is okay? Well, in negotiations too since it mentions the UN plan as well.

  • Shamir ordered Bernadotte assassination to save Jerusalem for Jews. But will his obits tell you that?
    • Yes, it is a shame. He was a great man(and one of the best of that illustrious family) but it is not surprising since the government has been taken over people who are very pro-Israel. The papers as well. For many years, the Swedish government under the leadership of the Social-democrats had quite frosty relations with the Israeli government largely because of this and the lack of justice for the killers. There was a great quote in Kati's book about a meeting between the UN and Shamir. I forget the quote but Shamir or someone from his staff asked the UN(It might have been Brian Urquhart, in fact) how they should deal(communicate) with them and the UN person said something like "O, we know how you deal with us. Just ask Mr. Bernadotte." That's probably not that close but it was rapier-sharp nonetheless.

  • US Jewish official defends double standard: In Israel, immigrants 'challenge Jewish character of the state'
  • Who knew! Hummus and falafel are 'Israeli foods'
    • That's always bothered me since "real" couscous tastes a bit different and if you make it from scratch or at least in a couscousiere it is a very primal experience. It's a shame that is indeed mentioned in a few cookbooks as opposed to other forms of couscous which are more authentic and not as old as my parents...

  • BDS victory: South Africa strips Ahava’s ‘made in Israel’ label
    • O, I think this is the one that I've seen throughout the Mid-Atlantic of the US. It's for a company that advertises itself as beauty products from the Dead Sea. Can't stand them. Anyway, I wanted to note that I was going to send my sister a subscription to the birchbox program. Unfortunately, right on the "brands" page, is "Ahava". So I decided to take a look here and sure enough they've worked with them before. It's sad that they haven't stopped working with them.

  • WTF-- 'Tea Party'-held district in FL is forking over $87 million for weapons to Israel
    • All very good points. It's atrocious. Israel always says it needs the money. Seems to me they need the political influence. Like you said, it's a rich country. Maybe we should keep some of that money and help to alleviate poverty in this country instead of building bombs and weapons which seek to kill people.

  • Rep. Allen West says Obama is Neville Chamberlain (to Arab Nazis)
    • In a way too, it is related to the bias to this day against Jews whose ancestors didn't come from Europe as well.

    • You will note that many of the religious Jews that lived in Palestine before the immigrants started to arrive in the 1880s were very much against them going to Palestine. They did indeed lived peacefully with their Muslim and Christian neighbors.

    • Exactly. Serbia was a powderkeg on the border of Austria. They had people working to destabilize the Austro-Hungarian empire from within. If Russia hadn't mobilize its troops and said it was going to help out Serbia then WW1 would have been avoided.

    • Wow. To be so deluded is amazing. I don't know how one could think like that and be honest with themselves. Anyway, I always love the Biblical references. I seem to recall that the Jews went to the "promised land" from somewhere else and that their were people already there. "O, that's so far back." Yeah, well, so is 2,000 years too. Anyway, love the British references. Chamberlain gave the British time to get their act together. Churchill and the rest of them wanted war for the longest time. Churchill was one of the biggest warmongers around. The people of Ireland, Iraq, India etc. remember him well. Heck, Churchill and many Brits were upset that German dared to try to have their place in the sun for the previous 40 years. But to give a gurantee to Poland was ridiculous In fact, the gurantee to the Poles was completely out of the blue and against several years of diplomacy. Besides which, Hitler thought he could count on the UK and France for his war-mongering to the east. That being said, what Hitler said about Danzig made perfect sense in line with Wilsonian principles. Everybody agreed later onto "transfer" agreements and so on and the people of Danzig were not allowed to join the country that they wanted to. But Hitler didn't stop there. And think about that. Hitler v Stalin would have let them both too weak to do much harm afterwards anyway. Would have destroyed each other but the Brits and French would have maintained a bigger standing in the world and that was what they really cared about. They didn't care about the Poles and the Czechs. Giving a gurantee to Poland was the first step to the end of both of their empires and while I applaud the end of their empires, their political leaders were too blind to see that. They were largely upset at new countries getting in their way. Everybody talks about how "bad" Hitler was but he killed a small number compared to the many that Stalin killed including many of my fellow Ukrainians. When the Holodomor is talked about with as much emphasis in "American" schools then I'll be quiet. Why in American schools in the first place? Do we expect the history of American slavery to be discussed in Korean schools for example? And why should the "Holocaust" be talked about compared to other tragedies? The Russians and the Chinese purposefully killed more of their people. Well, anyway, I've had enough of it. The Holocaust is still being used as a justification and that should end. A resillient people remember the past but they move on. This victimhood and fear of disappearing is overblown. I love how the article notes the 50-100 rockets have go into Israel but fails to note the 200 nuclear bombs that Israel has. A country with 200 nukes does not need to worry about disappearing. No purpose to them anyway not least of all the only countries you would use them against would be so close that fallout would happen on your own soil. More contradictions.

  • Help Mondoweiss stay afloat with a voluntary subscription
    • Thanks for your reply on the WW2 history. Somehow I had missed it before. I know I looked at my other post on the issue. But apparently I didn't go back to the first post. This site is great but there's so much to read day to day. So I try to spread things out and then people go on with new matters which makes sense. It's a lot to read. Thanks!

  • Is Greece being blackmailed to put the brakes on Gaza flotilla?
    • Yes, exactly and so was WW1. The British, especially, never wanted Germany to become a strong country at all. Even after the fall of the Wall, British politicians were not keen on reunification. Also racism was involved with the US. The US had quite racist immigration policies towards the Japanese for many years. So it was oil, racism and pure imperialism throughout the Pacific that led to the conflict there.

  • Palestinian sports community appeals to UEFA to stop 2013 football tourney in Israel
    • Ahh, a topic closer to my heart. Recently, the Israeli government denied several Palestinian players from leaving the OT in order to play an Olympic qualifier against Bahrain. This is against the rules of Fifa. Fifa in the past has punished New Zealand for doing the same thing with some players who were playing for Fiji at the time. Actually, they didn't allow them into the country. Ahh, but UEFA apparently, does not follow the rules of its bosses when it comes to these things. Also Mr.Rudd hopefully does not appreciate that anyway since he is a speaker of the great language that many of those "slanted-eyed" ones speak. Disgusting racism there. I hope UEFA changes its mind.

  • Terry Gross says Nazis seemed 'very present' to her, growing up in US in 60s
    • Okay. Well, but one only hears about Coventry and London and Portsmouth but when reading about German cities one always hears about how they were rebuilt after the war. I don't deny the destruction but I suppose about the support that we get from the Russians, some things are either downplayed or over-played. Yes, Billy Pilrgim and all.

    • Well, it's like what Faulkner said, the past is never past. Anyway, I wonder if in Britain and in the US for matter(more so in the US) realize how much of Germany was destroyed by the Allied bombing. I think only Coventry and London have anything compareable but that was just two cities. Hundreds of German cities were destroyed beyond recognition. I imagine there are many Germans of a certain age who to this day fear any sound of an airplane that goes over their heads. Paris was never destroyed although it could have been. Hitler's favorite building was in Paris even. But still he wanted the city to pay. Anyway, Vienna and Prague were hurt badly. Prague, by mistake, which was a really bad one. With radar like that, no wonder the Allies hit the same city in Switzerland several times. Heck, they even bombed Geneve. I don't understand Terry on this. I listen to her a lot but her fear was irrational. I like what you said, MRW. I am reminded of what one of the greatest Americans said: "There never was a good war or a bad peace."

  • Israel demolishes bedouin community in the Jordan Valley; 42 people homeless, including 21 children
    • Thank you for getting to my reply. I have been away from this site longer than normal but you see my problem with time nonetheless. I do like the "Today in Palestine" heading. Very helpful. Okay. Do a search for "Kate" or Seham. Yes, the "Arab Spring" one is good too. Yes, I mean I would look for that but I was the one who asked about this but newbies just might not notice these things. Yes, I've wondered about that as well. Maybe people aren't reading articles further down which would be bad as you say.
      Yes, another problem. Hopefully, a solution will be found. Ironically, I only found this reply since I started from where I thought I had ended before in reading. Ha ha ha. I looked at the first couple of articles and I thought "This looks familiar" so I went down to see the comments and I saw yours. Fortunate.

    • Bravo on saying "And more news from Today in Palestine:" Sometimes people, like me, who go through a couple of days' worth just look at the posts on the main page and just don't see that a post might be about more than one topic. Even if they have two clauses like the recent one on Bahrain at the Netroots conference. At first I thought that might have been a roundup one as well.

      "The Egged bus company has allegedly violated a Supreme Court ruling which forbids segregation on public transportation buses on the basis of gender. "

      If this were to happen in any Muslim country, we would have heard about it all of the time. I guess it's "okay" when it's our "friends".

  • Gen'l Ashkenazi, architect of Gaza onslaught, joins Brookings Institution as 'Visiting Fellow'
    • This goes back to the issue of "Jewish Power" too. I mean let's ignore that for a moment. It is true that in the US, despite its 300 million+ people we have a relatively small elite(for its size) at its top. Like all countries do. It's just more galling here compared to, I don't know, Liechtenstein. I mean practically nobody there talks about "Conflicts of Interests" between government and business. It would be ridiculous. One just looks to see that everything at least appears to be legal. Or not a scam or whatever. Anyway, this reminds me of the vital importance of campaign finance reform. Even before the rise of the Christian Zionism in the US(whose pro-Israelness really doesn't seem to benefit Jews in the literal end but that's for another day), the pro-Israel lobby was still quite strong. Sure lots of people might have been just anti-Arab. And of course, others were tied to the "Only democracy" canard as well. But why did this lobby now or even 30 years ago or so have such a strong hold over our politicians? Money basically. Mind you, we've created a class of people who apparently, are either easily bribeable(now making up words.) or easily scared of saying the wrong thing so that tons of money might go to their opponent. What a ridiculous concept. While it's true that many politicians in the US might support Israel without a doubt, I do not think that were money not a problem in our campaigns, we would have even a majority of our Congress or even the president literally kow-towing to Israel. So many applauses in Netanyahu speech. Has any other leader received so much when speaking to our Congress? People who have actually done great things in their life. I doubt even the strongest backer of Netanyahu could say he was as brave as Mandela or as inspiring as Churchill(I have issues with him but I'm bowing to majority view for now) or showed himself as well as his country to be a strong ally of the US like say a Canadian might. A good point to look at is how many spies of a country have the US arrested. I didn't see many from Canada. Sure we might have captured them and just said nothing but it seems odd for that to be the modus operandi when we are so close to Israel and yet we here about their spies being arrested. Maybe there are just as many Canadians caught by the US as Israelis. Getting back, so I don't think we would have such a strong level of support for Israel were it not for the money issue. We are supposed to have majority rule in this country. While not totally. Technically, we have representatives to rule for us. A republic. Now the whole Christian Zionism movement over the last 25 years or so might have changed that equation. Or maybe not. But surely the Jewish population is only the majority in a few districts across the land. Even in NY state where there are a lot of Jews, they are not a majority. Not even close. But this is the thing. Their voice shouldn't be heard above others. I mean largely people do not vote on foreign policy issues anyway unless the US is directly involved in some way or another. But our politicans are being corrupted(or more corrupted) by a small group of people with a viewpoint that according even to our military generals(who apparently most Americans think have the authority of God) say is hurting our image around the world. This is a corruption of the political process in this country. That was the glory of "freedom of speech". The spirit of it was that burgher and peasant had an equal voice. While it was true that in the US, we didn't have a royal class, we still had a few differences from the beginning based on money, race, and gender. And throughout our history, more and more people have been embraced in the concept of "We the People". We still have to do more to create a more perfect union. Now one of the things that the Founding Fathers wanted for our republic was an educated populace. At least for the voting public. Now that's another issue altogether. But they did say that we had to have an educated public in order to make informed decisions about how our government should be run and who should run it. In many ways, they failed us from the beginning on this but it's still a great goal. One should remind political reporters today that the mudslinging over the last 20 years in our campaigns is downright pleasant compared to what was said and written during the first presidential campaign. At least in that campaign we had two giants in American history running against each other who actually have sharp differences on how the country should be run as opposed to the main parties candidates of today who are merely two sides of the same coin. Anyway, getting back to this issue of "Jewish Power and money". This site has been great in talking about this. And I feel this is one of the issues that we need to talk about regarding our elections. Ethnic politics has a long standing tradition in this country but the amount of money that the Jewish community has and raises is completely out of line with their numbers in this country. There are at most 5-6 million Jews in this country. Yet, one can rarely hear a bad word said about the "Jewish state" in the MSM. Why is that? It all comes down to money and power. If it were any other group, one could say that outloud and now be put into the same group as Hitler. Now this begs the question; does any other community in this country have as much power? Well, yes and no. The quite diverse Hispanic population probably will one day based solely on their numbers. Perfectly logical, I would say. A democracy is certainly a better idea than an oligarchy. Now for the purposes of this site as well as being an obvious case due to a incongruency of demographics/money(power too), Jewish Americans may feel slighted by comments. I would feel just as strongly about any other group who would have such an out-of-whack influence on American politics. One might say our policy towards Cuba has been out of whack due to the exile groups but our policy before the large groups of exiles came over was already screwed up. That boat had already sailed. Then again few groups of such a large size generally have such a shared foreign policy goal. Well, at least a certain portion of said group. I am thrilled that this website and others like it show to me that there are many Jewish-Americans who do not feel like the Likudites(in Israel and in the US Congress) do. It is true that there is more debate in Israel on what they should and should not do than there is in the US. But this site and others like it are changing that and this is part of informing the populace. Too many sheep in this country. We the people. While it's probably true that the majority of Chinese-Americans want a free and "democratic" China, this is a goal that is not in direct contrast to the vast majority of countries in the world. While that is not always a desirable benchmark(tomorrow, the majority of people in the world may say that the sky is green), it is something that can be up for debate. People can make arguments for and against it. One can debate "How can it be achieved to have a free and democratic China and what would that look like?" One can not make an informed and educated argument on why the sky is green. And in the US, we should have a debate on why we support Israel so much. Maybe the American people will decide that we should support Israel as much as we do now. But let's bring to the table these issues out into the open. Let's not let "special interest groups" decide for us. Let the people of the US decide for themselves. This is a prime example of why we need to reform our campaign finance laws. Too much money corrupting the system. Like I said before, it won't matter for some people how much money they get from this or that group. Many people in office have a viewpoint that won't be changed. We can try our best to make them see all sides but at least the playing field will be level. I mean beyond the sort of ethnic politics that one sees(Peter King supporting the IRA, Marco Rubio supporting Cuban exiles), one might say that an Alaskan senator will always have an interst in energy policy for the country.(or at least for their state) Or a senator from Florida will always be interested in old people. Ha ha. Sure, they are representating major parts of their state. Issues that their constituents care about. Fine. That can go too far though. I, being from the Garden State where we have many small-time farmers, would love for a Secretary of Agriculture to be from my beloved land of liberty and prosperity. It is a large part of our economy. But alas, once again Big AG controls the debate and so that will never happen. In fact, we've never had a secretary from even the Northeast. A few from the South. But everybody else from Indiana to the West. Heck, even nobody from the state which has a county with the most fertile non-irrigated soil in the whole country. How screwed up is that? And that is down to money and power and undue influence. I'll have to read that book by Lieven. That sounds good. He's right. When in American history has another group that did not have a majority or even close to a majority, have such a large influence on more than one foreign policy issue? I mean sure tons of Chinese-Americans would want us to attack China should China invade Taiwan. But that is largely one issue. The "Israel" question 1)informs our whole policy towards an entire region, 2)our relations towards the rest of the world in relation to the UN 3)for many people in two large groups consisting of many than a billion people, our relationship with Israel is a constant complaint and 4) our policy on nuclear weapons and who should have them and for that matter, who we say already has them. It is wonderful that the Jewish community in the US is as diverse as it is when it comes to Israel. This should be reflecting in our national dialogue and that is not likely to happen until we have a change in how our campaigns are funded.

  • More bollocks from David Mamet
  • Activists from across Europe gather to build the campaign against Agrexco
    • Excellent. Thank you. I was wondering where I could get a list of brand names for the BDS movement in the US. Also which stores sell said brand names. What brands should I avoid basically and so on...

  • A sophisticated movement arrives on Israel's doorstep-- Arab spring-- and Israel has only one plan
    • Antidote May 2, 2011 at 12:17 pm
      “The fact is that the Nazis were intent on murdering Jews even when it was clear that they were going to lose the war”

      Nolte made that point and, more recently, Snyder in ‘Bloodlands’. Has been debunked repeatedly in the decades bewteen Nolte’s and Snyder’s claim."

      I had not heard this before. I haven’t read much on the issue but I do know that the Nazis were keen on Jews leaving before the war. Also I figured that they just wanted to “dispose” of them once the war wasn’t going their way. I did a quick search and I couldn’t find any articles. Do you have a few in mind for the debunking?

  • 'Haaretz' busts Netanyahu lies with Ali Haider column; why can't the 'NYT' do as much?
    • Great article by Ali. It just goes to show the lack of debate in the mainstream media(which is hardly "liberal" in the first place but that's a debate for another time) on the issue of our support for Israel. Not just our support. We "support" the United Kingdom. We "support" Canada. Yet when these two countries do things that the vast majority of the world agree are bad things we tell them about it. It was such a canard that the Republicans and Democrats complained about Obama telling Netanyahu about the 1967 borders in public. They said that if Obama and the US government had complaints then they should do it in public. That whole issue is a phony one in the first place but my point is that "friends", be they countries or people, call each other out in public. If you can't listen to a "friend" telling you what you should or not do then you are not going to listen to an "enemy". That being said, it has always been US policy anyway.

  • Major New Weblog Features: The Anti Hypocrite Tools
    • Excellent tool. Maybe people will respond to questions now instead of going onto new threads. I mean this site is great but I've asked one question twice in a couple of days and people had already moved on. Not all of us have the time to read the tons of articles every day.

  • Zionists' failure to save Jews from Holocaust was spiked 50 years ago, now in the news
    • Antidote May 2, 2011 at 12:17 pm
      “The fact is that the Nazis were intent on murdering Jews even when it was clear that they were going to lose the war”

      Nolte made that point and, more recently, Snyder in ‘Bloodlands’. Has been debunked repeatedly in the decades bewteen Nolte’s and Snyder’s claim."

      I had not heard this before. I haven’t read much on the issue but I do know that the Nazis were keen on Jews leaving before the war. Also I figured that they just wanted to “dispose” of them once the war wasn’t going their way. I did a quick search and I couldn’t find any articles. Do you have a few in mind for the debunking?

    • I had not heard this before. I haven't read much on the issue but I do know that the Nazis were keen on Jews leaving before the war. Also I figured that they just wanted to "dispose" of them once the war wasn't going their way. I did a quick search and I couldn't find any articles. Do you have a few in mind for the debunking?

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