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The War of Ideas in the Middle East
hophmi says: "As usual, this is a post that massively disingenuous, and using the quote the way it is used – to suggest that Ben-Gurion simply planned the expulsion of the Arabs no matter what happened, is intellectually dishonest in the extreme."
So tell us, hophmi. After the mandatory stopped immigration: How could Jewish separatists and terroris acquire a territory for their state and become a majority in it without war and expulsion?
IIRC the US always abstained in the Security Council when there was a resolution about Israel illegally changing the status of Jerusalem.
OMG! I just read this in Haaretz:
"(Palestine was considered an official sovereign entity before the founding of the State of Israel)."
link to haaretz.com
Quick, shout something. Antisemitism! Delegitimization! Diplomatic Terrorism! Anything!!!
giladg: "Hundreds of soccer fans shout “Death to Arabs”. Millions of Israeli’s don’t. Assuming 500 fans did the shouting, a quick calculation shows 500 divided by 6,000,000 equals 0.0083 %."
I keep your apologetics in my mind the next time hundreds shout "Death to Jews".
giladg: "I wonder if Annie Robbins has ever commented on the way the Arab crowds continually shout death to Israel and death to Amiricka?"
And I wonder if you - besides your juvenile Annie Robbins fixation - do know the difference between a state/regime and people.
Well, it's only Arabs in Israel and not Jews in Toulouse. So there's no reason for a rascist goverment to arrest anyone or immediately condemn this acts.
Isaak Greenbaum, head of the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee put it this way: "One Cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Poland". To them Jews were only usefull or useless human resource. Well, not only to them ...
I just read in Haaretz:
"According to international law, the transfer of civilian populations into occupied territory is forbidden. Israel claims that this is willful immigration [!] and not government a sanctioned transferring of populations."
link to haaretz.com
How can anybody hate Israel? It's even unintentional funnier than Iran.
It's antisemitism, terrorism, antisemitism and antisemitism for a Nonjewish child to throw it's face into the trajectory of the most moral bullets of the world. An IDF investigation will also show that someone was using the child as a human shield. And the shooter's going to be promoted because of all the problems the incidence caused him.
"whether this was in self defense or not."
Yes, the heroes of the most army in the world are incapable of "defending" themselves against a 16 year old child without using the most moral bullets of the world and aiming for his face.
Oh Israel. Not a spoiled monster but an innocent, abused and nearly autistic child who shouldn't be put under pressure.
'No Isi, you didn't do anything wrong, we love you just the way you are. Come out of your shell, here's some money for ice-cream.'
Pathetic appeasement.
"There is no Jewish future in France." (Katz)
Funny, how all anti-"assimilationists" sound the same.
Mr. Burston, trying to highlight superficial symmetries of violence to obscure the essential crime. Or is he demanding the right of return for Palestinians, even if Jews would become again a minority like they were in 1948?
Fredblogs: "It’s called “population exchange”. It happens all the time."
So you you don't have a problem, if Jewish immigrants and Palestinians refugees would swap.
Fredblogs: "But there is no realistic hope for peace, whether the settlements expand or not."
Funny that the United Nations allready in the 70s considered settlements to be the major obstacle to peace.
I agree, but I'm not sure, if your Sudetenland comparison works 100%, because there the majority were Germans (considering spoken language, culture and selfdefinition).
"lead" is original, "lede" is a neologism
Israel is very funny, because it controls Palestines economy. It could have also said that the Palestinians are not ready to have a state, because it's occupied.
So what was Israel's economy like on the day of it's proclamation?!
"Maybe I don’t understand your question. Difference in comfort food among ethnic groups is not what significantly distinguishes any ethnic group in terms of morals, ethics, ideology, etc."
I know. It was ironic. Still I don't know what "morals, ethics, ideology, etc." someone has who happens to be a Jew. The answer could only be a philo- or antisemitic generalisation.
The main question is: What does it mean to be "Jewish" or to identify with the Jewish collective?
If it only means to eat kosher food I couldn't care less, if someone is of Jewish heritage. But how can questions like "How large is the Jewish portion of the establishment?" can be important, if we don't know or define what difference it makes to be Jewish?
"She took a one sided position and should have been aware of the dangers. Alas the ISM exploits naive youngsters or so called ideologists by encouraging them to enter conflict arenas without giving them the full picture."
ISM should have told them that Israel may commit crimes against those who are not on it's side, because of the crimes it commits against those who are not on it's side, because of the crimes it commits against those ...
It should have also told them, that the hedonistic IDF wannabee soldiers are to afraid to fight a ground battle and that they compensate their inferiority complex with attacking demonstraters, innocents and defenseless people.
"The art of lying and propaganda has been mastered by the Palestinians."
Replace the world "Palestinians" with "Jews" and one can immediately recognice how naziesque your comment is.
"... but who do it more out of hate than concern ..."
The Palestinians are so subhuman, they don't deserve concern. And Jews are so superhuman that every critic of what they do to subhumans can be just hate. Is that what you're trying to tell us?
"Anyone who has fired a tear gas canister will tell you that you cannot aim these things."
Sure. It's very difficult to hit an eye every time while aiming at the body.
"but the right of self determination for Jews and upholding Jewish majority is not."
It's a perversion of self determination, if one group has to keep members of another group expelled, just to maintain a majority. It is Apartheid, a crime against humanity.
Read this article:
link to richardsilverstein.com
"Well I would agree with that too but said a ‘certain kind” of Jewishness. The kind that zionism definitely want to preserve."
Atzmon goes further, because he is pro individual and anti collective. Which means he puts being an indivudal above being a Jew or member of the Jewish or any other collective. He claims that on the other hand and in the eye of the Zionists being a Jew is the primary 'quality'. Therefore Zionism chooses anti-assimilation and separatism to preserve Jewishness.
To him Israel is just one (territorial) aspect of Zionism.
I've read Atzmon's last book. On page 16 he writes that he doesn't have a problem with those who follow Judaism or those who regard themselves as human beings that happen to be of Jewish origin. He has a problem with those who put Jewishness over and above all of their other traits. And he sees Zionism as the tool to preserve this agenda.
As if the mind to whom Jews are only numbers is interested in returning expelled Jews to their real homeland. They would never support this kind of return, because they're delighted that Jews were expelled and fled to Palestine/Israel. So if they think about Jews this way, what do you expect of them to think about expelled Nonjews?
OlegR: "Basically it will become another Arab state with a large Jewish minority, seems so attractive to the Jews.
Yes i think i am convinced."
I'm convinced you're more attracted to the idea that Jews are allowed to commit crimes against humanity to become a majority or maintain being one.
32 until 31.12.2011 according to B'Tselem.
seafoid & shingo, like the IDF-bot Avital Libovitch OlegR seems to be unable to compute your question.
I want to learn something new, giladg.
I guess you are familiar with the fact, that Zionist separatists and terrorists took over Palestine by force after it's mandatory goverment "collapsed" and against the will of about 80% of it's citizens. What do you say about this "regime change" and wiping Palestine of the map for six decades?
Do the 20% Nonjews in Israel have the right to take over Israel by force and declare a state of their own? I mean, considering the FACTUAL connection to their homeland and also of the FACTUAL connection of the Nakba survivors and their descendants who want to "return"?
"It was never Palestinian in the sense that you think it is now."
Many countries on history were created after an empire collapsed.
"It was in fact the Arab population who begun the ethnic cleansing and apartheid. They turned to Turks and and forced laws forbidding the sale of land to Jews. If you sold land to a Jew you where punished with the little thing called “death”. They did not want or allow Jews to live in the land we all know is the historic homeland of the Jews."
That's totally different from the Jews of Israel who allow Nonjews to buy land and settle wherever they want, right? Especially Nonjews which can call Palestine their REAL homeland, because they or their ancestors REALLY lived there and were Citizens of Palestine rather than European immigrants or refugees. Needless to say that those who wanted to return to their own land were never punished with the little thing called "death", right?
"Innocent Jews were targeted by the Arab population. Men, women and children were slaughtered just for being Jewish."
Nope. Innocent Jews were targeted by some Arabs after Zionists boasted to takeover Palestine. Before that Arabs and Jews used to babysit each others children.
By the way. How many Palestinians who suffer under expulsion and disposession, under siege and occupation and the continuous denial to self determination and a real and democratic majority rule are not innocent in your eyes?
The Judemographetnocracy imprisons Jews who refuse to oppress Nonjews. Reminds me of a time when people were imprisoned or even worse when they refused to oppress Jews.
"That comment you made plays into his theory"
Don't ruin my bait.
"Don’t argue with a fool (a hasbara tool or a troll); he’ll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience."
I see it more from the view of a cat playing with a mouse.
kalithea, I don't respect his solution, but I respect his contribution.
@ proudzionist777
Israel fires on civilians even if they are abused as human shields???
A decade ago:
"What is the wisdom here?" a Meretz party leader asked the Knesset. "At the very moment that it appeared that we were on the brink of a chance for reaching something of a cease-fire, or diplomatic activity, we always go back to this experience - just when there is a period of calm, we liquidate."
link to normanfinkelstein.com
OlegR: "and the rest is declared undisputed Palestinian land by Israel then there is no basis for the apartheid claim."
Oh there will always be. Israel keeps Nonjews (and their descendents) who by international and human rights law should be citizens of Israel expelled and denationalized to maintain a regime dominated by Jews.
"No one is pretending that there are no acts of violence."
I asked you, if every settler (or other Israeli individual) attack is an act of violence FROM ISRAEL!
"I can tell you categorically that in apartheid South Africa there were never separate roads for Blacks and Whites (there are in Saudi Arabia by the way roads only for Muslims)."
It's not Barghouti's fault you don't know the international definition of Apartheid which is not a surprise, since your Judemographethnocracy refuses to ratify the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court.
"So if there are separate roads in Yehuda and Shomron, then they are there for reasons that have nothing to do with apartheid. They are there because of the deadly violence carried out by the Palestinians on whoever they may find on some roads"
Funny that the Afrikaans had the same apology for their apartheid measures. Do you think that the Palestinians violence in this particular territory has something to do with the illegal presence of illegal settlers in illegal settlements on illegally confiscated land and the illegal violence to maintain their illegal presence?
And considering all the other crimes against Palestinians for the last six decades including expulsion, dispossession, denationalization, plundering, and their more then ten times higher kill ratio in the last decade; what security measures do you suggest against the "deadly violence carried out by the" Jews?
"You might want to ask your Palestinian and Arab friends why they declared war on Israel in 1967, WHEN THERE WERE NO SETTLEMENTS!"
They propably did in the Kahane-continuum, but not in our universe. Ask the top terrorist Menachem Begin: "In June 1967 we again had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him."
link to mfa.gov.il
But if you ask your Zionist and Jewish friends how on earth they acquired the territory for their state you can draw your own conclusions why the Palestinians behave the way they do. Or you can ignore it and cry antisemitism like so many other nutcases.
"So yes, Jews have a direct connection to their biblical homeland, especially in Yehuda and Shomron."
So yes, you support the Palestinians right to return, because they - being a former citizen of Palestine - can even prove their "connection" to their homeland. Or do you want to keep them expelled and segregated from their homeland to maintain the domination of a Jewish regime? Don't say yes, before you look up the international definition of the Crime of Apartheid.
She claims that the Palestinians only want a two state solution as a step to take the rest of the land. And that more attacks are going to happen from their side, if they have a state.
Of course she doesn't have a problem with the fact, that his has been the Zionist's strategy for the last six decades.
So every settler (or other Israeli individual) attack is an act of violence from Israel('s side), too?
I didn't forget the so called "UNEDITED Radio Transmission Between Gaza Flotilla and Israeli Navy" which was a master example of sloppy audio manipulation and assembling.
"Interesting about the comment list. I only see one comment, clicked on “all” and still just saw one."
I linked the print edition by mistake.
This is the original article, including the whole comment list and Witty's comment (#18):
link to haaretz.com
Maybe Burston can tell us, if he's ok with Palestinians assassinating Israeli leaders including "colateral damage" and a kill ratio as high as Israel's. He would be the first Zionist who's not a hypocrit. LOL.
This article and Annie Robbins comment "yes, why shouldn’t they respond to israel’s violent provocations. that is human nature" made it into Haaretz:
link to haaretz.com
I remember that the comment list in Haaretz was much longer yesterday. Even Richard Witty commented on Annie.
Imagine the following news:
Netanyahu, an Israeli militant leader, was assassinated. It was believed that he planned an attack on Gaza. Jewish terrorists retaliated with home made rockets. 15 of them were killed including one child. 30 more were wounded including a reporter and his pregnant wife.
Comments from 'ProudPalestinan666':
"This is what Palestinian self preservation is."
"Zionism is not over because Zionists understand the true nature of the threat. And Zionism is the only answer to offer some real protection to Jews."
Jews nowadays need real protection because of Zionism. That's the true nature of the threat.
Noahides at the very most.
"Whereas Congress recognizes the historical tradition of ethical values and principles which are the basis of civilized society and upon which our great Nation was founded;
Whereas these ethical values and principles have been the bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization, when they were known as the Seven Noahide Laws;"
link to thomas.loc.gov:
They must think, that the Jewish community has a lot of power. Wait, that's antisemitic, no?
Mayhem says: "I became a Zionist when I realized that the self determination of my people was crucial."
There you have the rascism of Zionism in a nutshell. It put's self determination for his people above the self determination of others.
"It must be shown that colonialists administered law and justice far more fairly than most pre-colonial chieftains or post-colonial despots. It must be taught that human development indicators plummeted in the majority of African and Asian countries following independence." (Rafael Castro)
It must be shown, that Zionists until today are violating human rights to maintain a Jewish majority and that they're preventing Palestine's independence since the Balfour declaration.
Let Israel attack Iran an deal with the consequences. I'm fat up with all it's warmongering.
I find it very disturbing that she says "Settlements betray JEWISH values". As if its not important enough that they "betray" the values of Nonjews, too.
Reminds me of Gilad Atmon's book about Jewish identity politics.
It was Hitler's Notverordnung which transfered this presidential power (which could be opposed and restricted by the goverment) to the chancellor (the head of goverment), which means himself. And by the same law he nullified many of the key liberties of German citizens so he could put any further political opponents into custody without charge or trial and surpress publications not considered in line with him or his "circles". Of course there's nothing original about it or the NDAA. And it's not a trend, it's the tool.
The Nazi law created the procedure of Schutzhaft ("protective custody"), which allowed the Nazi regime to put all political opponents in concentration camps without charge or trial.
So it is not only comparable. It is identical and the core of fascism. And I foresee that like the Germans the Americans are going to do nothing against it, until it's to late.
"According to the ADL, such a conference could only be interested in “the elimination of Israel as the national homeland of the Jewish people.” Dershowitz referred to it as an “anti-Israel hate fest.” Goldberg thinks organizers share “a goal with Hamas: the elimination of Israel as a homeland and haven for Jews.”" (Article)
Funny if you think that Palestine as the national homeland of the Palestinian people was eliminated from Zionists which only had the goal to eliminate Palestine as a homeland and haven for ALL Palestinians, regardless of heritage or religion. I guess pro Israel support is an "anti-Palestine hate fest". Or maybe even an "anti-Humanity hate fest."
Well the Zionists always want to hide the fact that it is not about being a people (dispersed all over the world) but being a citizen of a certain territory. Palestinian citizenship existeted since 1925. There's no Jewish citizenship. And most of the Jews in Palestine 1948 weren't even citizens of Palestine.
Is it a twisted form of denial or does it just want me to forget?
Mondoweiss' commenting policy may not allow me to express of what this reminds me.
"I don't think it has been the intention of Israelis to sustain this horrible situation."
The settlements are fake and made of paper and the settlers are antisemitic actors only trying to demonize Israel. Oh, the humanity!
ROFL. Whenever I challenged Zionists I was bullied sooner or later, because their "ideas" are stupid and they know it.
“To protect Israel’s sources in the territories, Palestinians often could be shown only a “paraphrase” of the charges against them, the judge explains. And what if the security forces made unreliable accusations? “As a rule, I didn’t doubt what they said,” says the judge."
In dubio pro accusatio. Last time I read about this middle age practice, the side which was of lower blood had to prove it's case.
They're not pervasive ignorant, they know the truth and are honest. Something I wouldn't say about Hostein or Dershowitz.
How deep can the shmock Dershowitz sink?
How is the "investigation" going on? Have they allready found out, which soldier they're going to promote?
The desert [!] was empty, seafoid. "land" sounds too fertile and that there could have been some fauna and flaura. But a burning bush told me, that only after the 2000 years old Zionists returned and shtupped the soil it started to bloom.
I was just going to say the same thing. It's Zionism 101 since the beginning.
"1. We are allowed to criticize our own country, yet we are not allowed to criticize Israel."
I hereby allow you to criticize anything.
"2. Why should we have to "like/love" Israel?"
I hereby allow you to like or dislike anything you want.
"I don’t understand why Israelis themselves don’t raise a fuss about this."
Because it's an existential threat to the only Judemographethnocracy in the galaxy.
Imagine Palestinians would marry Nonjews, which Israel deliberately want's to keep expelled. Soon, they want to vote more that for an State for the Jews, a State for the Jews or a State for the Jews.
"Than ask youself what all this might mean"
It means you're suffering under the late stage of Zionism in which you experience denial and a total lack of empathy for the suffering of Nonjews.
For therapeutic reasons I would advise you to imagine, that the victim is not a Palestinian, but a Jew.
“whether it’s in the political discourse that is spoken either from Fatah or from Hamas, there is a belief that the Jewish people do not have the right to have a Jewish state.”
Oh, do they also have the right to have it in the USA? Has a minority always the right to seperation against the will of the majority in any country? Do the Palestinians in the Galilee or the Bedouins in the Negev have the right to seperate from Israel? Is there a belief that the Bedouin people do not have the right to have a state of their own? Or are Jews more equal than equal for Romney?
If there had been a region in Palestine - let's call it Jewsland - and the majority of it's residents wanted seperation, because the majority of Palestinians violated their human rights, then and only then they may have had a right for seperation assuming all of the residents would have automatically become citizens of the new state.
This was in so many ways not the case in Palestine.
"It was technically an invention of the late 1970s,” Gingrich explained. “Prior to that they were Arabs.”
Do your homework Gingrich. The people of Palestine were Palestinians since the territory was detached from the Ottoman empire and formally since the Palestine Citizenship Order in the 20s.
Oh, so his calling for the extinction of Iran. How genocidal of him. He is a true Mensch.
This is not only the "Jewish settler view". It's Israel's view. Read the International Court of Justice's advisory opion "Legal Consequences of the Construction of a Wall in the Occupied Palestinian Territory", Page 41 of PDF and how the Court rejects this view. link to icj-cij.org
Oh, copypaste from this article?
link to mideastweb.org
Btw. Do you think, that the mandate itself was legal or that it was contradicting the mandate system in general and an A mandates in particular?
It is a form of Holocaust denial to deny the support of some Zionists for Nazis dissimilation and expulsion politics.
this is becoming fun
I believe, there are more Antigentiles amongst Jews per cent than Antisemites amongst Gentiles.
Just ordered Ben's book, because I enjoyed reading "Israeli Apartheid".
Cook's book "Disappearing Palestine" was published by Zed Books. Also Uri Davis' "Apartheid Israel".
Well, the Israel supporters are lying again, if they say that using the word "Israel firster" would be antisemitic, if it is not a collective/stereotypical accusation against Jews as such. And again Israel supporters by claiming something is antisemitic which is not are abusing Jews as human shields.
ROFL. Netanyahu is a living joke.
Iran threatens Israel, U.S. over scientist killing
link to edition.cnn.com
UK Sunday Times joins in:
Inside Mossad's war on Tehran
link to theaustralian.com.au (Reprint)
Jeffrey Goldberg asks, why Israel did it:
Another Iranian Nuclear Scientist Assassinated, and What It Means
link to theatlantic.com
And Robert Wright responds:
"But there's a third option that Goldberg doesn't consider: Israel is trying to start a war with Iran. The more Iranian scientists it kills (and the more missile testing facilities it blows up), the more likely Iran is to retaliate. And things have a way of escalating, which would pave the way for military strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities.
Obviously, Israel could bomb Iran's facilities even without such escalation. But escalation offers two advantages:
1) Israel gets less blame, because it isn't accused of starting things. ...
2) The United States is more likely to get drawn into the war. ... "
link to theatlantic.com
Mark Perry says:
"I have no idea who is responsible for the murder of Iranian scientists, I have no idea whether, at present, Israel is using Jundallah or MEK operatives to conduct these operations. Iran has plenty of enemies, and it could be any number of organizations — or perhaps the killings are simply an internal matter."
link to 972mag.com
Not long ago Gentiles developed weapons and tested them on Jews. Today it's the other way around.
Interviews with Mark Perry:
‘Israel, if you want to be welcome in U.S., don’t pull this kind of crap’
link to 972mag.com
Mark Perry speaks about allegations of Israeli spies posing as CIA agents
link to youtube.com
Time Magazine:
"Who Assassinated an Iranian Nuclear Scientist? Israel Isn't Telling
Like three previous Iranian scientists ambushed on their morning commute, the latest nuclear expert to die on his way to work was a victim of Israel's Mossad, Western intelligence sources tell TIME. ...
Wednesday's attack followed the pattern of previous operations planned by Mossad and carried out over the past two years by Iranians trained and paid by Israel's spy agency, according to intelligence sources. ...
Israel is officially silent on the incident. However, its top spokesman for the country's military posted this on Facebook: "Don't know who settled the score with the Iranian scientist, but for sure I am not shedding a tear." The Obama Administration insisted it had nothing to do with the attack. "The United States had absolutely nothing to do with this," National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor declared. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton made her denial of U.S. involvement "categorical."
The contrast in responses reflects the good-cop, bad-cop roles the allies have assumed in the international effort to dissuade Iran from pushing ahead with its nuclear program. "
link to time.com
The Scorpion and the Frog
One day, a scorpion looked around at the mountain where he lived and decided that he wanted a change. So he set out on a journey through the forests and hills. He climbed over rocks and under vines and kept going until he reached a river.
The river was wide and swift, and the scorpion stopped to reconsider the situation. He couldn't see any way across. So he ran upriver and then checked downriver, all the while thinking that he might have to turn back.
Suddenly, he saw a frog sitting in the rushes by the bank of the stream on the other side of the river. He decided to ask the frog for help getting across the stream.
"Hellooo Mr. Frog!" called the scorpion across the water, "Would you be so kind as to give me a ride on your back across the river?"
"Well now, Mr. Scorpion! How do I know that if I try to help you, you wont try to kill me?" asked the frog hesitantly.
"Because," the scorpion replied, "If I try to kill you, then I would die too, for you see I cannot swim!"
Now this seemed to make sense to the frog. But he asked. "What about when I get close to the bank? You could still try to kill me and get back to the shore!"
"This is true," agreed the scorpion, "But then I wouldn't be able to get to the other side of the river!"
"Alright then...how do I know you wont just wait till we get to the other side and THEN kill me?" said the frog.
"Ahh...," crooned the scorpion, "Because you see, once you've taken me to the other side of this river, I will be so grateful for your help, that it would hardly be fair to reward you with death, now would it?!"
So the frog agreed to take the scorpion across the river. He swam over to the bank and settled himself near the mud to pick up his passenger. The scorpion crawled onto the frog's back, his sharp claws prickling into the frog's soft hide, and the frog slid into the river. The muddy water swirled around them, but the frog stayed near the surface so the scorpion would not drown. He kicked strongly through the first half of the stream, his flippers paddling wildly against the current.
Halfway across the river, the frog suddenly felt a sharp sting in his back and, out of the corner of his eye, saw the scorpion remove his stinger from the frog's back. A deadening numbness began to creep into his limbs.
"You fool!" croaked the frog, "Now we shall both die! Why on earth did you do that?"
The scorpion shrugged, and did a little jig on the drownings frog's back.
"I could not help myself. It is my nature."
Then they both sank into the muddy waters of the swiftly flowing river.
I don't have a problem with cultural or binational Zionism.
I dream of a less Benny Morris world.
Interesting map. So all the quarries are in the Jews-only-area and outside the Palestinian's bantustans?
You know the answer, eee.
It's very simple. The core of antisemitism is a negative stereotyping of Jews. If this core is missing, it's not antisemitism.
So if someone says that a (pro) Israel lobby controls or tries to control US foreign policy in the Middle East is a simplification, but it's not antisemitism. But Foxman and other word twisters want to shift it towards antisemitism by claiming that what was actually said was that "the (stereotype) Jew controls or wants to control the world". It's Foxman et al. who disseminate antisemitism and pour oil into the fire.
I witnesses the same during a discussion about the Israel/Palestine conflict in which someone claimed the stronger party would be responsible for the conflict and a zionist twisted his words into "THE JEWS are responsible for everything (bad)". It's actually them thinking like antisemites. Maybe they hate themselves for being a Jew who has to support zionism, right or wrong. It wouldn't surprise me.
Zionists like Foxman project their own antisemitic thought processes onto their whipping boys. Nothing new.
"international law must be adapted to the "reality on the ground" of long-term occupation."
Oh right. It's not Israel which must adapt to international law. The international law must adapt to Israel's needs. Who cares that prolonged occupation constitutes a crime because self determination is denied and that the Security Council allready more than thirty years ago reaffirmed "the overriding necessity to end the prolonged occupation of Arab territories occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem;"
link to unispal.un.org
Next year in Bagdad, das Volk braucht Raum!
Ok, thanks again!
Thanx, the link is VERY helpful! It is very enlighning to see so many Knesset members talking about "the land of Israel" (Palestine).
So the minority proposal was some kind of binational state and regarding democratic decisions the same as the one state solution?
Any explanations (or link to them) why the would be not suitable?
Isn't her solution the same as the minority proposal in 1947?
Wow, I didn't know that the "Reports of International Arbitral Awards" was online! Thanks a lot, Hostage!