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An old Jewish guy in Oz. Tired of the fallacies surrounding the I/P issue. We were given the territory for a homeland state, with more than enough room for every Jewish person on the planet. Even today. Since declaring its frontiers in the May 15th 1948 Israeli Government plea for recognition, Israel has illegally acquired more and more territory outside of it's proclaimed and recognized Sovereign territory. Israel continues to encourage Israeli civilians to break laws that were adopted by the UN and the International Comity in large part because of the treatment of our Jewish fellows under the Nazis. All I ask is that Israel adhere to the law, under which it can easily protect itself, grow and prosper. No Israeli territory has ever been invaded or taken. More than defend its actual frontiers, Israel as illegally acquired large swathes of non-Israeli territories in the laughable notion that they are required for self defense while illegally populating them with Israeli civilians. The Palestinians ask for their legal rights under the Laws all states are obliged to uphold. Israel demands more and more non-Israeli land. The Palestinians have no legal, moral or ethical obligation to forgo any of their legal rights under the laws Israel obliged itself to uphold. I've received too many threats for opposing Israel's policies towards the Palestinians, broken windows, graffiti'd walls, hate mail, I'd prefer to remain anonymous, if that's OK. Who I am is irrelevant. Reliable information is essential to informed dialogue towards resolving the I/P issue. Propaganda has no place in true peace


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  • Howard Stern says no one lived in Palestine before Jews got there, but Roger Waters wants them to go 'back to concentration camp'
  • Jerusalem at a breaking point
  • Video of 18-year-old Palestinian chased by Jewish mob and killed by police shocks global audience
    • @ Jackdaw "Moshe Malka was stabbed"


      "and his friends stopped the assailant"


      "Moshe’s injuries to the chest and back"

      Alleged injuries

      "Does anybody not see this?"

      I see accusations ... no evidence!

    • @ jackdaw "There was a incident in which 15 year old Moshe Malka was stabbed in the back and chest"

      Allegedly. But where's the evidence? Photos of the alleged injuries, medical report

      " Maybe one or two people witnessed that attack"

      "Maybe", maybe not.

      "Unless someone can prove that Fadi was the humble baker, en route to his place of business, I can only conclude that he stabbed Moshe Malka in a an unprovoked terror attack"

      The accuser is usually required to provide the evidence in modern democratic & civilized countries. Accusations are not evidence. However, you conclude without a shred of evidence

    • @ Jackdaw

      " I asked you where you lived in the US"

      Irrelevant to the issue/s. A great many Israelis have been led to believe they're living in Israel, when in fact they aren't.

      The US is not illegally claiming anyone else's territory, whereas Israel has illegally claimed more than half of what remained of Palestine after we were given, completely gratis, more than half of Mandate Palestine for the Jewish homeland state.

      link to

    • Mmmmm no Hasbara workers today

  • Bon Jovi's Tel Aviv gig is upstaged by Roger Waters's incantation of Israeli victims, including Dawabshe boy
    • amigo re- 'here is one catalan'

      I do feel sorry for some folk who think they have a point which under even a cursory glance turns out to be contrary to their claims.

    • @ jon s

      "Israel is the Jewish ancestral homeland "

      Israel was proclaimed and immediately recognized by the US as " as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947" considerable smaller than the alleged historical homeland

      " as proven by the historical and archaeological record"

      Alleged historical record and; What archaeological record?

      " Seriously, what difference does it make? Are today’s Greeks descended from the ancient Greeks? Are the French descended from the Gauls? Are the British pure-bred Angles and Saxons? Of course not"

      Are today’s Greeks still illegally acquiring non- Greek territory, dispossessing non-Greeks?

      Are the French still illegally acquiring non-French territory, dispossessing non-French?

      Are the British still illegally acquiring non-British territory, dispossessing non-British?

      "What counts is a people’s consciousness , their historical memory. The perception of Israel as the Jew’s ancestral homeland is not something that can be erased by trying to follow “bloodlines” back through history."

      Marvelous. So go whine to the Zionist Movement and Israeli Govt for proclaiming Israel " as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947" and for having since been busy illegally acquiring non-Israeli territory, putting Israel in breach of International Law and the UN Charter

    • @ jon s "It seems to me that asserting that Israel is NOT the Jewish historic homeland – there’s the insanity, there’s the fantasy"

      Israel is far smaller. Go bitch to the Israeli Government who proclaimed Israel " as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947" in order to be recognized. Since being recognized Israel has not legally acquired any further territories.

    • @ catalan

      " .. there are thousands of maps; here is one;
      link to "

      Very clever...

      What's it say there on th' map?

      The boundaries and names shown and the designations used on this map do not imply official endorsement or acceptance by the United Nations

      "Can you show one map made in the last 20 years by any government or international organization which does NOT show Beersheba being in Israel?"

      You just showed me one that does not imply official endorsement or acceptance by the United Nations

    • Official UN Map of Israel link to

      The designations employed and the presentation of material on this
      map do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the
      part of the Secretariat of the United Nations concerning the legal
      status of any country, territory, city or area or of its authorities or
      concerning the delimitation of its frontiers or boundaries

      Official Australian Map of Israel link to

      Nomenclature and territorial boundaries may not necessarily reflect Australian Government policy

      Official US Map of Israel link to

      boundary representation is not necessarily authoritative

    • @ catalan

      "Actually the maps produced by the United Nations; China; Russia; India; and Brazil all show Beersheba in Israel

      So do those made by the European Union and Australia."

      Links to official maps please .. thx

    • @ catalan "The maps made by the UN Cartography Committee show Beersheba in Israel."

      Uh huh. Link please .... thx

      " So do those made by Russia, China, and almost every other country.
      Let’s go by that."

      Uh huh. Let's look at your evidence .. thx

    • @ jon s
      “Anf if you perform in the USA you’re shoulder-to-shoulder
      With the bombers of a wedding in Yemen
      With the bombers of a hospital in Afghanistan
      With the imprisonment without trial of the Guantanamo prisoners”

      They'd be some of the famed 'shared values' I guess

    • @ catalan "The state of Palestine has been recognized by more than 100 countries. It has observer status in the United Nations and diplomatic missions."

      So Palestine is a recognized state! Glad we got that sorted.

      .. maps made by countries recognizing Palestine, such as Jordan or Norway. None include Beersheba" .... and;

      None recognize it as Israeli because it wasn't proclaimed as Israeli in the Israeli Government's plea for recognition and; it has never been annexed to Israel and; it was illegal to acquire or recognize territory acquired by war by 1933, certainly by 1945 and most assuredly illegal by the time Israel agreed to adhere to the UN Charter and International Law on May 15th 1948

    • @ jon s "Anf if you perform in the USA you’re shoulder-to-shoulder
      With the bombers of a wedding in Yemen
      With the bombers of a hospital in Afghanistan
      With the imprisonment without trial of the Guantanamo prisoners"

      Where can I sign on to your protest?

    • @ jon s

      "It would be easy to respond to Roger Waters in the same style"

      Indeed, if he did actually
      Stand shoulder-to-shoulder
      With the jihadi terrorists
      With Hamas and Hizbullah
      With the suicide/homicide bombers
      With the Anti-Semites

      Please show us how or where he does .... thx ... we'll wait

    • @ jon s "I choose to live on land that is part of my people’s historic homeland, and, as you know, I acknowledge that it’s also the Palestinian homeland. That’s the situation, that’s what needs to be settled."

      If you're not living in Israeli territory you help 'settle' the matter by f^&king off back to Israel and suing the Israeli Government and Zionist Federation for deceiving you

      "As a teacher, I try to do my best to remain faithful to the values that I believe in. I’m sorry if that makes you sad"

      As a teacher you should be interested in facts. Fact is, Israel has not legally acquired any territory outside the borders it proclaimed May 15th 1948.

  • How can a 'New York Times' reader possibly know what is truly happening in Israel/Palestine?
  • After 22 years it's time to stop pretending about the peace process
    • Sibiriak "James Canning didn’t say “offer.” He said “impose.”"

      I said 'offer' as a general comment re Israel's lust for land. Give, impose, offer, it will never be enough.

    • Analogy? Has there ever been a time where Israel has not been claiming territory beyond it's borders?

    • @ James Canning "I continue to think a resolution of Israel/Palestine problem must be imposed by world powers. Give Palestine full UN recognition with “1967” borders, and work from there"

      Be careful.

      The UN gave Israel full recognition within the 1948 borders. It was not enough for Israel then or since. Israeli representatives have lied, stalled and continued to colonize un-abated for 67 years.

      Whatever you offer it will never be enough while the Zionist Federation exists and while Zionist biased Governments rule Israel. They're a scourge on humanity and Judaism

    • @ italian ex-pat

      My argument isn't with you, it's with the information being disseminated

      According to the Knesset record, the consensus is incorrect.

    • @ italian ex-pat Golan ...... just a mile from the Syrian border, built right after the ’67 war on land taken from Syria and (illegally) annexed by Israel in 1981"

      It was never actually annexed illegally or legally by Israel.

      link to U.S. State Department declared, with reference to the Golan bill, “Our view has been and remains that the annexation of the Golan Heights or in fact any of the territories occupied by Israel in the 1967 war would be contrary to United Nations Security Council resolutions 242 and 338 on which the Comp David accords and all Middle East peace negotiations since 1967 have been based.” The statement added that “a move to annex would be profoundly disruptive to our joint efforts with others in the area to achieve a comprehensive Middle East peace.”

      After the UNSC condemnation of Israel's illegal annexation of East Jerusalem, link to , the Knesset decided to illegally institute Israeli civil law without any pretense of annexation what so ever. link to

      There is no annexation mentioned in the Golan Heights Law of December 14, 1981

    • @ mcohen "Abbas declared Oslo over,hoisted the flag….

      That is a declaration of war not peace."

      Nonsense. Israel has never held up its end of the Oslo bargain. It has increased its illegally acquired non-Israeli territory, increased settlements, slaughtered and dispossessed more non Israelis from non-Israeli territories

      "In fact the peace process along with the 2 state solution as backed by America is a failure much like the “Syrian quagmire”"

      Indeed. Having veto power at the UNSC has allowed Israel to commit crimes with impunity

      " israel must enforce a one state solution and annexe the west bank"

      Legal annexation requires the approval of the legitimate and legal citizens of the territory to be annexed, per the annexation of Texas, Hawaii, Alaska

      "declare martial law and stop the violence from both sides"

      Only when the underlying issues are resolved will there be peace. Israel is in breach of the UN Charter, International Law and relative Geneva and human rights conventions in territories outside the State of Israel.

      End the occupation as required by law, withdraw from all non-Israeli territories as required by law, pay compensation as required by law. This will of course lead to a failed Jewish state, but that's the price you pay for breaking the law for 67 . Successive Israeli leaders have stupidly led the Jewish state up a dead end street

  • 'NYT' reporters parrot Israeli claims re cherry tomato
    • @ hophmi "First of all, Netanyahu didn’t claim that Israel “invented” the cherry tomato. He said the cherry tomato was “perfected” in Israel"

      Turned from a delicious juicy food stuff into a hard skinned, tasteless, tomato red, lump of pulp is hardly 'perfected'

    • @ "People often used it as a chaser" When they're celerbrating something

    • @ hophmi "Not a single claim .." ... Netanyahu made has any legal bearing on Israeli's ongoing intransigence in non-Israeli territories, which is the only reason Israel has any UN/UNGA/UNSC resolutions against it.

      IOW he's a cheap lying creep

    • None of Netayahu's cherry (tomato) pickin' claims have any legal bearing. Israel is in breach of International Law.

  • To condemn, or not to condemn
    • @ Jon66 "So ALL Israelis in Occupied Territory are there illegally? Even visitors?"

      If you say so. I didn't. I said "Civilians of the Occupying Power illegally in Occupied Territories ...

      "It does not make any sense that any Israeli in Occcupied Territory is a legitimate target"

      Correct. Though they are in a war zone and are thus at risk of becoming embroiled in and perhaps even collateral damage due to valid violent resistance against armed citizens of the Occupying Power

      "Are the Israelis who come to protest the occupation legitimate targets? Are you saying the government should block them?"

      A) No

      B) No. They're not there with the assistance of the Occupying Power

      Anything else you'd like to try to twist around?

    • @ AvramMeitner "The colonies are obviously illegal, there’s no serious discussion on that. But being a colonist doesn’t rob someone of their protection as a civilian"

      Civilians of the Occupying Power illegally in Occupied Territories are in breach of the law. By being there they rob themselves of the protection of NOT illegally being there.

      If you deliberately take your wife and children to stand in the middle of a traffic lane on a freeway .... go figure

      The Israeli Government actively encourages its civilians to endanger themselves, then cries crocodile tears when they become embroiled in the violence expected when one occupies another people and their territory.

      What kind of a screwed up Govt deliberately encourages its civilians to endanger themselves?

    • Jon66 "You seem to be saying that it’s OK to target the civilian population of a country if you are at war with the countr

      They seem to be saying what they said and what they said is still there for all to read and it's not what you'd like them to seem to be saying.

      ".. I thought the whole point of “rules” of war was to distinguish civilian from military and civilians shouldn’t be targeted "

      Indeed. GC IV is to protect ALL civilians, including the civilians of the Occupying Power, from becoming embroiled in and collateral from the very likely violent consequences of occupying another people and their territory.

      It is the Occupying Power's responsibility to ensure its own civilians DON'T enter Occupied Territories. It's also the Occupying Power's responsibility to protect the occupied, their property and their territory.

      "Israel, the Occupying Power" fails on all accounts. It's a rogue state in breach of laws and conventions adopted in large part because of the treatment of our Jewish fellows under the ^&*$@# Nazis

    • Unfortunately the civilians were in a car with a valid military target. The Israeli government encouraged them to be there war zone. It's called collateral.

      Complaints should go to the Zionist Federation and Israeli Government, who encourage civilians to break GC IV thereby endangering themselves and in this case their families.

    • I cannot find where Hamas has made these statements. In a letter? Broadcast? Hamas website? Phone interview?

    • Condemn who?

      No one has been caught or charged

      For all we know it could be a family feud or payback for a drug deal gone bad

      "Hamas spokesman Husam Badran has reportedly praised the murders"

      Reported by who?

  • Netanyahu's 44 seconds of silence at UN are being widely mocked -- 'pathetic,' 'creepy'
    • @ hophmi

      Why was Bibi at the UN mouthing off?

      You there? hop?

    • @ hophmi

      Uh huh.

      Say ..... why Bibi there mouthing off?

    • What was the fumbled glasses routine at the beginning?

      He looks around the room without glasses

      Then chooses one pair of glasses of two

      Puts the second pair on , fumbling slightly. Looks in one direction, for a brief moment, then immediately removes them

      Doesn't need glasses for the rest of his speech

    • link to

      There's another weird silence at about 16:17 til 17:04

      At 33 min - Netanyahu says he's willing to negotiate with the Palestinians, no pre-conditions ...

      He then immediately names two preconditions, disarmament and recognition of the Jewish state. Neither of which have any legal standing.

      Netanyahu never once says Israel will end the occupation or stop the illegal settlements, the two most significant and legally required moves Israel could make towards peace

  • As Palestine's flag is raised at U.N., Abbas dumps Oslo security obligations
    • I dare say Abbas means the Occupying Power will be solely responsible for protecting the occupied, their property and their territory per the UN Charter Chapt XI, International Law and GC IV

      What it will no doubt show is that "Israel, the Occupying Power" has no intention of living up to any of its legal responsibilities and; the State of Palestine will have the right under the UN Charter to demand Israel be forced to comply.

  • Palestinian solidarity movement will 'grow and grow and... be impossible to stop' -- Slaughter to Clinton in 2011
  • UK activists target radio station's 'Win a trip to Israel' contest
    • @ Palikari It's not bigoted to seek to hold a country to its legal obligations under International Law, the UN Charter and relative Conventions.

      It is rather bigoted to choose a nic name that derides a people who seek their legal rights under the Laws Israel agreed to uphold

    • @ SG "Sounds like a great trip! "

      Uh? Only a complete moron would call a trip 'great' when it encompasses a visit to a war zone in territories that are quite simply NOT in the country they claim to be visiting

      link to

      link to

      The organizers will be responsible should any of their 'lucky winners' become embroiled in and/or victims of the violence expected when one party occupies another

  • The anti-semitism charge is the canard
  • Anti-WASP tropes in the 'NYT'
  • Celebrating Eid al-Adha in Gaza
    • @ jon s But in the present with so much distrust -and hatred- between the two sides, neither side is apt to give up the idea of a nation-state."

      Go squawk at Netanyahu. For years the Palestinians have been willing to forgo 78% of their rightful territories for peace with Israel.

      There is no valid moral, ethical or legal reason for Israel to continue the occupation or to be building illegal settlements or to be illegally claiming any territories outside the State of Israel.

    • @ jon s

      "It’s good to see people of all faiths ,especially kids, celebrating their holidays in peace"

      Uh? While Israel occupies non-Israeli territories war is being waged on Palestine and tomorrow we will likely read of Palestinians having been slaughtered and dispossessed today by Israel

      From the article

      “Nothing could please me during these days as much as grabbing few moments to see my son, to touch him, to tell him how much do I miss him during such times,” Samira said while tears were pouring down her cheeks.

      Her touching words prove to everyone that happiness in Gaza will not be fully completed without an utter liberation of our prisoners and our land!

      According to Samira, Eid will be truly celebrated when we have our beloved ones around us and when we have our holy shrines freed"

      "At the same time the Jewish people are celebrating Sukkot"

      Many of them in illegal settlements in Palestine, not in Israel.

  • Israel's UN amb. called for annexing West Bank, tries to delete evidence
    • I wonder if the stones David threw were the remains of his bulldozed home?

    • @ Kay

      " Did he convince Putin to support Israel? Or was he shown the door diplomatically? Keep in mind Russia was one of the nations negotiating the Iranian nuclear deal"

      Israel is running out of 'power of veto' candidates. Netanyahu will be chumming up to anyone who shows the slightest promise. Geographically Iran has it all over Israel strategically for all concerned, especially as it plans to be the central hub of a huge electricity power grid for all the surrounding countries.

      Everyone has been looking for evidence of mis-use of nuclear materials. Meanwhile there's plenty of evidence for the peaceful use of nuclear power encompassing countries far further afield than Iran's immediate neighbours.

      link to

    • So Netanyahu tries Russia .... gotta have someone to veto UNSC Chapt VII resolutions

      link to

    • David threw stones ......

    • The emperor, having disrobed, now reaches for the 'E'raser

  • Amnesty: Killing of Hadeel al-Hashlamoun was 'extrajudicial execution'
    • @ Mayhem ". The Irgun attacks you mention occurred during war-time"

      What war?

      "@talknic, where’s your alternative translation to Abbas’ rabid remarks?"

      You're making the assertion, it's up to you to corroborate PMW's validity

      " You wilfully condemn the bearers of bad news (the truth) about the inherent corruption and racist behaviour of the Palestinian leadership"

      A) PMW, Memri et al purposefully distort. Manufacturing propaganda for useful idiots

      B) Neither Jews or Israelis are a race and there's no requirement to take shoes off to enter a Jewish place of worship

      C) Evidence of this alleged corruption please....

      "Whilst Israel attempts to rein in its extremists"

      By actively encouraging them to illegally settle in non-Israeli territories. Interesting theories you have

      "the Palestinian leadership incites its people to violence"

      The occupied have a right to violently resist their occupier

      "The current spate of violence to do with the Temple Mount is spurred on by idiotic fear-mongering and scare tactics employed by Muslim leaders who spread crazy stories (especially at the time of the Jewish high holidays when plenty of Jews have been around) that the Jews are threatening to destroy Al-Aqsa"

      There are Jews who ARE threatening to destroy Al-Aqsa!

      "And not even a whimper amongst the MW proletariat about the blatant anti-semitism in Abbas’ remarks"

      Dirty feet/shoes/sandals are not semitic

      " Blind, one-sided commentary only proves that its exponents deliberately skirt around the truth with an agenda bloated with bias and dishonesty"

      No need to describe your shtick, we're well aware of how you and your kind operate

    • @ catalan

      "Fundamentally, should a human being have a link in order to live somewhere? Are we taking about something metaphysical, legal, biological?"

      Good question. Say, why do they call it the Law of "Return"?

      "I don’t know."

      Ask your grandparents... "My grandparents spoke Spanish at home. My grandmother still thinks of it as her native language, at 97. That's 550 years after the expulsion" link to

    • @ Jackdaw "And Palestinians want the Jews alive and well, just not their pets?"

      The Palestinians want Israelis to end the occupation and get out of Palestine, go back to living in Israel instead of being in breach of the UN Charter and International Law. Very reasonable.

      In fact the Palestinians offered, at the UN in front of the world, to accept only 22% of their rightful territory for peace with Israel link to

      Israel replied by building more illegal settlements

    • @ Jackdaw " I live in a village. That village is in Israel."

      What village? You do realize Israel has never legally acquired any territory outside of its self proclaimed and Internationally recognized borders. link to

    • @ Mayhem

      “We bless you, we bless the Murabitin [those carrying out Ribat, religious conflict/war to protect land claimed to be Islamic], we bless every drop of blood that has been spilled ..."

      A PMW 'translation'. PMW is an Israeli apologist propaganda outfit

      ... innocent Israeli man Alexander Levlovitz .."

      Innocent? He was in breach of International Law. In occupied territories. IOW he was either an idiot or naively duped by the Israeli Government

      "...and injured his two daughters by hurling rocks at their car, causing him to lose control of his car and drive into a pole. Many others have been wounded in rock-throwing attacks. Doesn’t this bother you?"

      Indeed it does bother me. It also bothers me that you're still yapping up the wrong tree.

      Go whine and bitch to the Zionist Federation who decided to colonize Palestine in 1897 and the Israeli Government for actively encouraging and assisting Israelis to break GC IV, a convention adopted to protect ALL civilians, including those of the Occupying Power, from becoming embroiled in the violence expected when you occupy another people.

      What kind of a f&*ked up organization and f&*ked Government encourages civilians to endanger themselves?

    • @ Mayhem "Jewish terrorists (the Irgun) indeed blew up the King David Hotel but issued telephone warnings beforehand..... "

      Doesn't compute. No one came out. So they blew it up ...

      "The Jewish National Fund in Israel planted the Bernadotte Forest dedicated to his memory. "

      Wonderful. That was in 1952 right? Exactly where? In Israel? Or in territories "outside the State of Israel" ... "in Palestine"

    • "On the photographs, the eyes of a soldiers are almost popping out of his head, as if he was thinking “O my G.d! I will not get out of here alive, she is about to explode!"

      Yet the other soldier is signaling him to stop! link to

    • The IDF story is bullsh*t!
      The notion that she continued to walk towards the IDF goons can be easily disproven.
      A) They claim she was shot in both legs but continued to walk towards them ... super woman!!
      B) The initial part of the confrontation happened when she was thru the barricade on the IDF side
      link to
      However, her body lies on the other/entry side of the barricade
      link to
      They then inhumanely dragged her back under the barricade link to
      She was shot on the opposite side of the barricade to the IDF. IOW she was walking away!

      Vests are armed so they go off when the trigger is RELEASED. If they thought she had a vest they’d have backed off. They didn’t back off.

      Only a f^&cking moron would should someone at close range if they thought had an explosive vest on.

  • It was heroic to throw a brick at Stonewall but Palestinians who throw stones can be shot
    • @ DaBakr You're yapping up the wrong tree pal

      Take your whining to the Zionist Federation and the sick government who encourage and assist Israeli civilians to be in breach of GC IV, a convention adopted to protect all civilians, including those of the Occupying Power, from being caught up in the almost certain violence expected when occupying another people.

    • @ hophmi Are you really that stupid? You're bitching to the wrong people .

      Go whine to the Zionist Federation who decided to colonize Palestine in 1897.

      Take your complaints to the sick Government that assists its civilians to be in breach of GC IV, a convention adopted in order to protect civilians, including those of the Occupying Power, from becoming embroiled in the almost certain violent consequences of occupying another people.

      " In the United States, if someone throws a stone with the intent to kill "

      The US is not under occupation. People under occupation have a right to attack armed foreigners in Occupied territory. They even have the right to extend their resistance across the borders into the territory of the Occupying Power

  • 'NYT' piece on stonethrowing leaves out 'occupation'
    • The NYTimes appears to be careful not to allow comments on articles so easily torn to shreds

    • The occupation did not begin in '67. According to official Israeli Government statements occupation began in '48, before Israel became a UN Member state, before the UNSC could directly censure Israel. The UN/UNSC cannot directly censure non-Members for their actions and it cannot censure Members in retrospect for their actions prior to membership. Occupation never the less existed.

      Official Israeli Govt statement to the UNSC. May 22, 1948 UNSC S/766 .

      Question (a): Over which areas of Palestine do you actually exercise control at present over the entire area of the Jewish State as defined in the Resolution of the General Assembly of the 29th November, 1947?

      "In addition, the Provisional Government exercises control over the city of Jaffa; Northwestern Galilee, including Acre, Zib, Base, and the Jewish settlements up to the Lebanese frontier; a strip of territory alongside the road from Hilda to Jerusalem; almost all of new Jerusalem; and of the Jewish quarter within the walls of the Old City of Jerusalem. The above areas, outside the territory of the State of Israel , are under the control of the military authorities of the State of Israel, who are strictly adhering to international regulations in this regard" ... " the Government of the State of Israel operates in parts of Palestine outside the territory of the State of Israel "

      “international regulations”; Laws and Customs of War on Land (Hague IV); October 18, 1907 Art. 42 SECTION III

      "Territory is considered occupied when it is actually placed under the authority of the hostile army. The occupation extends only to the territory where such authority has been established and can be exercised."

      12 Aug 1948

      Jerusalem Declared Israel-Occupied City- by Israeli Government Proclamation 12 Aug 1948

  • Pope Francis, American churches, and Palestinian rights

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