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An old Jewish guy in Oz. Tired of the fallacies surrounding the I/P issue. We were given the territory for a homeland state, with more than enough room for every Jewish person on the planet. Even today. Since declaration, Israel illegally acquired more and more land outside of it's actual Sovereign boundaries. All I ask is that Israel adhere to the law, under which it can easily protect itself, grow and prosper. I've received too many threats for opposing Israel's policies towards the Palestinians, broken windows, graffiti'd walls, hate mail, hate snail mail. I'd prefer to remain anonymous, if that's OK. Who I am is irrelevant. It's the information that counts. :-)

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  • Khalidi: It's time for Palestinians 'to get off their knees' and turn to Europe and ICC
    • @ Walid "The resolution not only negated the 67 borders, it also blew away the Palestinians’ RoR"

      International Law and the UN Charter trumps US law when it comes to matters outside the sovereign extent of the US

      "The “armistice lines of 1948″ mentioned in the text are weasel words for the 67 lines. "

      The opposite. There was no armistice in '67 = the '67 lines are weasel words. UNSC resolutions subsequent to UNSC res 242 reaffirm "that acquisition of territory by military conquest is inadmissible" and reaffirm "the overriding necessity to end the prolonged occupation of Arab territories occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem;" link to wp.me

    • @ Mayhem "This is talk of desperation"

      It's a logical and legal step. That's why Israel and the US are desperate for it NOT to happen.

      "of a people who have f..ked up good and proper on the international stage and are now trying by whatever means they can to devise ways to keep fighting for their (lost) cause"

      Uh huh. It is Israel in breach of International Law and UN Charter.
      Israel makes demands in negotiations that have absolutely no legal basis what so ever.
      Israel who, after 65 years of building illegal facts on the ground, cannot now afford to adhere to the law.
      Israel couldn't even afford to pay rightful reparations for dispossessing non-Jews in 1948. By now the bill is astronomical.

      At best all Israel can LEGALLY do is strike a plea bargain with the Palestinians and hope they remain so generous. The alternative is for Israel to continue to break the law, the UN Charter, a merry jaunt on the way to becoming a grimy little failed state.

      The lost cause is the vile, illegal Zionist plan for Greater Israel.

    • "WHAT TERRITORY (IF ANY) is one recognizing/admitting/asserting as the territory of the state of Israel when one “recognizes” Israel?"

      As Israel asked to be recognized. Effective 00:01 May 1th 1948 ME time "the state of Israel has been proclaimed as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947, and that a provisional government has been charged to assume the rights and duties of government for preserving law and order within the boundaries of Israel, for defending the state against external aggression, and for discharging the obligations of Israel to the other nations of the world in accordance with international law. The Act of Independence will become effective at one minute after six o’clock on the evening of 14 May 1948, Washington time" link to wp.me
      Israel has not since legally acquired any further territory

    • @ dimadok"Palestinians will loose everything they have, including being counter-sued for killings since the beginning of the conflict. Just my thoughts about the plausibility of ICC actions."

      As you have no idea how the ICC works it might be best if you kept your thoughts to yourself. The ICC doesn't have the power to take anything away from the Palestinians. The ICC prosecutes individuals.

      The International Criminal Court (ICC) is an independent, permanent court that tries persons link to icc-cpi.int

      Why is it supporters of Israel's illegal expansionism are so stupid?

  • BDS activists leaflet Ben & Jerry's shops on commercial ties to Israeli settlements
  • Israel stops US-led peace talks citing Palestinian unity (Updated)
    • @ yonah fredman How about Israel stop breaking the Law and UN Charter, withdraw from ALL non-Israeli territories for once, take its illegal settlers, go live in Israel. 65 years is a long time to have your military and your citizens illegally in other folks territory.

    • UNSC res 1860 link to unispal.un.org Resolution 1860 (2009)

      Adopted by the Security Council at its 6063rd meeting, on 8 January 2009

      The Security Council,

      Recalling all of its relevant resolutions, including resolutions 242 (1967), 338 (1973), 1397 (2002), 1515 (2003) and 1850 (2008),

      Stressing that the Gaza Strip constitutes an integral part of the territory occupied in 1967 and will be a part of the Palestinian state,

  • Video: Israeli soldiers detain 6-year-old child on his way to school in Hebron
    • @ Mayhem "Today’s pebble thrower, will hurl rocks tomorrow and can one day be your potential terrorist. "

      Got any statistics to back your biased speculation

      BTW our link to thetower.org is cute.. It says "Palestinians Committing War Crime By Pushing Stone-Hurling Children At Israelis" then shows a video where no one is pushing any children to throw rocks. When we follow the link they provide link to jpost.com we read " The IDF on Saturday posted a 45 second video that showed Palestinian children and young teens throwing stones at the Israeli military in Hebron "

      No enlistment, no pushing and Israeli military in occupied territory, a valid military target even if the kids had bazookas instead of what's left of their non-Jewish homes = another fail on your part and no points for your stupid Israeli propaganda

    • @ Mayhem "Today’s pebble thrower, will hurl rocks tomorrow and can one day be your potential terrorist."

      "will" . You can predict the future.... What AMAZING powers!!! Jews went beyond 'potential' terrorism BTW link to nationalarchives.gov.uk

      Meanwhile, the occupied have a right to attack occupying forces with whatever they have at their disposal, even life threatening pebbles. Armed Israeli settlers and Israeli military are legitimate targets, it isn't terrorism, even if it is with pebbles link to theguardian.com

      "Why do the parents allow/encourage these kind of belligerent activities by their children?"

      You have any evidence the kid was encouraged? Do you have any evidence he actually threw anything at all at the occupying forces? Remember if you're allowed, accusations are not evidence.

      Meanwhile link to washingtonpost.com

      The occupation is belligerent, they have a right to resist occupation, even with scary pebbles

      "The enlistment of children to carry out these violent acts is in effect no different than enlisting child soldiers, which is a war crime in terms of Article 8(2)(b)(xxvi) of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court (ICC)”.

      A) How was this kid enlisted? By your amazing powers maybe? B) Apply that equally to the stone throwing children of illegal Israeli settlers if you dare

      "And of course it makes great propaganda for the ISM who just love to demonize Israel at every conceivable opportunity."

      How is it propaganda? Fake Israeli soldiers? Israel successfully demonizes itself every day it continues to illegally acquire, stay in and illegally settle non-Israeli territory while LYING to itself, its citizens and the rest of the world, supported by morons for Israel who it seems can predict the future

    • If they were truly terrified, depressed, soul-wrenched, these twenty-somethings could say no.

      ".. the soldiers’ humanity seemed eventually to triumph over racist indoctrination, and they released the child"

      They seem to be taking orders... Soldier, radio, "habla habla" .. not hard to figure

  • 'Al Jazeera' examines Jewish constellation of lobby elites, and marginalized 'universalists'
  • A Jew who visited Palestine responds to 'NYT' assertion that Palestinians want to kill all Jews
    • @ yonah fredman "I am merely asserting that Ted Auerbach’s sample was not a fair one and that if he had stayed 100 times with Hamas people then it would be a fairer sample"

      I realize it's not within a propagandists brief, but be honest for once if you can. Have m/any Jews visiting Gaza on humanitarian missions been slaughtered by Hamas?

    • Thanks for that Herb... I learned that ZABARS does Kosher link to zabars.com No doubt you have an endless supply of nonsense to post ...

      Idiots for Israeli intransigence never seem to check. Too dangerous I guess, they'd have nothing to post

    • Herb Glatter "Phew thank goodness you found a “Jewish” guy at Zabar’s yesterday"

      In the Upper West Side? At Zabars? Where they serve Kosher? You're kidding link to jta.org

      "Here is another example of the Zionist takeover of the world"

      If you say so Herb....

    • Another @ 01:41 Again holding phone as though recording. Leaves @ 01:51 as the other guy takes up almost the same position link to mondoweiss.net

    • @ 01.26 guy in blue jacket walks past.

      @ 01:55 same guy returns

      @ 01:59 by the way he is holding his phone, he appears to be recording the conversation

      @02:03 guy with pamphlets gets in the way. Guy in blue jacket tries to move to a different position

  • Registration of Jews and other human beings
    • @hophmi "They do not. You are wrong. There has been no ethnic category on the ID cards since 2005. Everybody’s card includes the Hebrew birth date, not just those of Jews. "

      link to en.wikipedia.org

      The bearer's ethnic identity can nevertheless be inferred by other data - the Hebrew calendar's date of birth is often used for Jews, and also, each community has its typical first and last names.

      An amendment to the Israeli registration law approved by the Knesset in 2007 determines that a Jew may ask to remove the Hebrew date from his entry, and consequently from his Identity Card.

    • @ hophmi It seems the DoB on Jewish IDs is according to the Hebrew calendar.

    • @ lysias "Speaking of propaganda fabrications, NYT Retracts Russian-Photo Scoop"

      Speaking of un-retracted propaganda fabrications link to google.com.au

      Meanwhile link to wp.me (note the date, before dis-engagement)

    • Hophmi insists on applying mouth to mouth long after the body has decayed...

      "The point of national registration in Israel is not to identify non-Jews. It’s to identify, period."

      So why does it identify Jews?

    • hophmi "I mean, the Palestinians have been so peaceful "

      Against Israelis usurping them? You're delusional.

      "..and the region has been so friendly to minorities, always treating Jews perfectly in every way"

      In his lifetime Herlz could have moved to Palestine, attained Palestinian citizenship, bought land and settled anywhere in the Jewish People's historic homeland. Odd that he didn't bother.

      Throughout the LoN Mandate for Palestine period and under the Mandate guidelines Jews could move to Palestine, attained Palestinian citizenship, bought land and settled anywhere in the Jewish People's historic homeland. (Art 7 )

      Meanwhile Palestinian Jews lived in the region in relative peace for over 2,000 years until mass and at times illegal immigration assisted by Zionist colonial project loans made it rather obvious to the locals what the Zionist intention was.

  • Palestinian youth fulfill their 'right of return' to the destroyed village of Iqrit
    • Mikhael "There are many Arab localities in northern Israel that were once home to vibrant Jewish communities and where Jews are today made to feel unwelcome."

      There are many more localities illegally claimed by Israel, North, East, Sth West, where there were Arab communities and where under the Laws of War, the citizens of the Occupying Power link to mfa.gov.il are prohibited from illegally settling. As Israel has never legally annexed ANY territory to its proclaimed borders, they're un-welcome as a matter of course.. link to wp.me

      Go whine to the Zionist Movement for demanding a separate Jewish State. They're responsible for taking away the right for Israelis to settle anywhere in the Jewish People's historic homeland

      Mikhael // I guess if the Zionists had wanted to feel welcome by the Arabs of the Galillee they wouldn’t have acted the way they did for the last 100 years or so//

      "Thanks for clarifying that when you say “Zionists,” you mean “Jews.”"

      Problem with your strawman Pajero, what was written is still there...

      "Ilan Tuma-Shechter, a scion of one of the ancient Jewish families of Peqiin that have a documented unbroken presence in the village for not a mere five centuries (as my family can claim in the Land of Israel) but 2,000 years. "

      Uh huh. A) your family? Sure Mikhael B) Source... the illegal settlers' propaganda news service? Hilarious stuff.

  • Israeli settlers release wild boars on Palestinian farmland to destroy crops
    • @ JeffB "The claim is that the Palestinian nation didn’t exist, that there was no Palestinian national identity until about 1920. .... There was a Palestinian on here yesterday making the same claim about himself."

      Apart from ONE alleged Palestinian, who makes these claims?

      "You want me to google for frequent quotes about how there was never a Jewish presence in Palestine. "

      No. I'd like you to show who argues ... " .. that David never existed and there was never any Jewish inhabitation of Palestine (for some even during the 600 BCE – 73 CE time frame)."

    • ""He has to choose," said prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu. "Does he want peace with Hamas or peace with Israel? You can have one but not the other. I hope he chooses peace, so far he hasn't done so.""

      Translation: No matter what Palestine does, Israel will maintain its current illegal stance and continue with its insane and legally irrelevant demands.

    • JeffB "I just have to point out the contradiction of being concerned about the Tomb of David while arguing that David never existed and there was never any Jewish inhabitation of Palestine (for some even during the 600 BCE – 73 CE time frame)."

      Uh huh. I just have to ask, who makes these claims?

      "Either there is no prophet David or the Jews were there for 2 millennia"

      The common claim that Palestinians didn't exist, negates the far longer period of Jewish history in the region, as Palestinian Jews

  • Federal agencies express concerns about Israel's entry into the Visa Waiver Program
  • Peter Beinart misses South Africa's apartheid lesson, Gideon Levy gets it
    • @ giladg "“Die Stem”, which was the Afrikaner anthem, is part of the new Sth Arican anthem. Mandela sang it. Sth Africans sing it every day."

      Uh huh. Sth Africans in Sth Africa.

      "Mandela said everything needed to be shared. He knew what reconciliation meant. "

      For Sth Africans in Sth Africa.

      "Abbas does not have a clue"

      He appears to know he's not Israeli or in Israel. A point that seems to have escaped you.

    • @ giladg "You and Abbas are simply extremists who are only interested in distorting history"

      If you could quote the history I've allegedly distorted you might have a point.

      Making a false accusations only reveals you as an abusive person who's willing to break the basic tenets of Judaism.... you must be very proud

    • giladg "Mandela was a man who insisted on including everyone. The national anthem includes 4 different sections, Afrikaans, English and Zulu and Xhosa."

      For Sth Africans in Sth Africa

      " Can you imaging Abbas singing Hativka?"

      Why? He's not Israeli or Jewish you stupid stupid person

  • Bridgegate 2.0: Israeli tech students manipulate traffic patterns
    • @ hophmi "Scraping the bottom of the barrel again, I see" based on the premise that " Because, as we all know, hackers exist in Israel only"

      If you say so hophmi

  • Father of photographer critically wounded at West Bank protest: 'This is life under occupation'
    • @ j "It is ironic. It’s like we care if the world recognize our annexation of half of Mexico"

      What is ironic is that a US citizen can be so ignorant of US history.
      A) Texas for example, wasn't a part of Mexico when it was;
      B) legally annexed to the USA via an AGREEMENT!

      The US, by adopting the legal custom of having an agreement with the legitimate citizens of territories to be annexed, Texas, Hawaii, Alaska, was instrumental in that legal custom passing into Customary International Law.

    • @ j " When Jews were driven out, no provision was made for them, no help offered, no protest made. "

      A cute theory. But like all Hasbara it's bullsh*t. UNRWA cared for Jewish refugees in Israel until the Israeli Government took over 1952. link to google.com.au

    • @ Shuki " why not show the unredacted footage "

      You have evidence of there being more footage? WOW!

  • John Judis's Truman book is a landmark in anti-Zionism
    • Mikhael A “religious” state was not founded “in Palestine”;

      "The state of Israel ....will be based on freedom, justice and peace as envisaged by the prophets of Israel"

      "upon the termination of the British Mandate whence “Palestine” ceased to legally exist. "

      Israel Govt statement May 22nd 1948, Israel had military control of territories "outside the State of Israel" ... "in Palestine". BTW under International Law, territories under military control are ""occupied"

      "The Arabs of the former British Mandate failed to declare independence and found an Arab state"

      A) So what? Israel did and in asking for recognition, stated the legal extent of Israeli sovereignty as being "within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947" link to wp.me

      B) On May 15th 1948 Jewish forces were already occupying territory slated for the Arab state. The Arabs could not have declared independent statehood.

    • The Zionist movement established an effective lobby long before it drafted the Balfour Declaration.

    • @ yonah fredman "1917-" ? 1897

    • @ Rational Zionist "the book misses the point that the Israel that was promised by the Balfour Declaration"

      Israel is the state proclaimed effective 00:01 May 15th 1948 "as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947" link to wp.me

      No Jewish state was promised under the Balfour declaration 0r the League of Nations or the San Remo Conference. Read Article 7 of the LoN Mandate for Palestine.

      "And even this was too much for the Arabs.."

      They agreed to the LoN Mandate for Palestine incl Article 7

      "Are you (I mean you) willing to fight for the “palestians”? It means pick up arms, not just writing pearly words on this website?"

      It's Palestinians pal.

      "I didn’t think so"

      Answering your own question without knowing is sooooooo cute

      "most Arabs don’t care about their brothers"

      Strange, they've afforded them refuge for 65 years.

      or they would have allowed them to be absorbed into Jordan (the real Palestinian homeland)"

      Why? Refugees from Israel and what remained of Palestine in 1948 are not from Jordan or Kuwait.

  • How many 'Palestinian Arabs' want to kill 'all Jews?'
  • Tax-deductible US group pushes Israeli control of Temple Mount
  • Tensions rise on Temple Mount as rightwing Jews seek to hold Passover rituals there
    • @ jon s "There is an intense – and fascinating – debate in the archaeological "

      No doubt. It is however completely irrelevant to the legal sovereign extent of the State of Israel and Israel's illegal claims and activities in non-Israeli territory.

    • Where the temple once was is completely irrelevant to the legal extent of Israeli sovereignty and Israel's illegal actions outside the territory of the State of Israel.

    • @ carbonfree10
      "Jews would not dream of going into the Al Aksa Mosque–it has no meaning for them and is on the southern part of the Temple Mount, far away from the Dome of the Rock. Any violence inside the mosque was caused by Palestinians who rioted because some Jews wished to visit and pray at the Temple mount

      Doesn't compute!

    • Imagine Muslims conducting Islamic rites in a Synagogue.

  • 'Israel is the home of all Jews,' declares a right-wing official
    • @ seafoid Most states are declared only for and by the legitimate citizens of a territory. There's not many declared on behalf of people regardless of where they hold citizenship.

  • Mark Halperin excommunicates Rand Paul, over Israel
    • @ DaBakr "so much concern for 100s of 1000s of the Syrian war victims I can feel oozing from your being."

      Many Syrian war victims being offered refuge in Israel DaBakr?

      Say, is that the same Syria from which Israel has illegally acquired the Golan? link to yale.edu

  • Reports of anti-Semitism in Ukraine and Hungary
    • @ JeffB "Jews have quality leadership now, t.."

      A) Netanyahu is not the leader of Jews, he's the Israeli leader. No more, no less. B) Any leadership continuing illegal settlements, continuing to illegally sell illegal Israeli settlers land in non-Israeli territory illegally acquired by war, is quite simply a moron!

  • The Book of Exodus and the Book of Palestine
    • @ jon s "You would learn that you were wrong in thinking that Jews didn’t pray for an ingathering from exile."

      Prayed to who? The Jewish Agency and its terrorists?

  • Palestinian youth say the talks with Israel are futile
    • @ mondonut continues to gape at a small circle of light, quite oblivious to being at the bottom of a latrine.

    • @ asherpat "Since Israel’s judicial system is well respected (eg British supreme court, or whatever they call it now has acknowledged it)"

      Source, date

      "then unless the ICC is a sham like the UNHRC (controlled by human rights luminaries such as Saudi, Syria and Lybia)"

      The same UNHRC Israel seeks to join?

      "then Israel will not be prosecuted"

      Why is it supporters of Israel's illegal activities have no idea of what they're talking about?

      The International Criminal Court (ICC) is an independent, permanent court that tries persons link to icc-cpi.int

    • @ asherpat

      "you wud slit our throats (or cheer those who wud do it, vast majority of you re liberal sissies) at the first opportunity) "

      My what a fertile imagination

      "So you agree then that it is better to send PLO back to Tunis ...... I await your logic"

      Tunis ? Logic to a Zionist colonizer is like holy water to Nosferatu

    • @ just "By the way, it’s against Jewish halachic law to destroy these trees"

      Deuteronomy 20:19

    • @ eljay " Israel’s 60+ years, on-going and offensive (i.e., not defensive)"

      To the greatest possible extent, we will remain constantly on the offensive, which will not be confined to the borders of the Jewish State. link to pages.citebite.com

    • @ asherpat "Is the indignant, modern-looking lady on the main photo pro- or anti-peace? Let’s look at the picture on her T-Shirt!"

      WOW!! Indeed. Pictures are so lethal, right? Israel maintains its ghastly occupation and illegal acquisition of territory by force of lethal arms!

      There's a picture on a 'T'shirt and batons from what I can see.

    • @ DaBakr The theft of a tree is a crime, no matter what its age, size, type.

      BTW Congratulations on demonstrating how sympathizers for Israel's illegal activities in non-Israeli territories attempt to shift the focus from the illegal and often fatal actions of a regime acting outside the legal extent of its sovereignty, to a non-lethal and largely irrelevant point.

    • @ DaBakr " “the oldest known tree in the world…..confiscated by Isreal..” ? I thought the oldest trees were in Ca. USA. Or Norway. or even Lebanon.
      link to en.wikipedia.org
      The Sisters 6,000–6,800 Olive
      Olea europaea, Baladi/Ayrouni: Genotype Bechealeh, Batroun district, Lebanon Also called "The Sisters Olive Trees of Noah"; alleged to be the world's oldest living olive tree
      "I csan;’t even find this tree on the first 5 google hits for biggest trees in world"

      "biggest"? What do you look for when you need to wipe your rrrrrs?

  • Resurrecting Passover?
    • @ jon s "Let’s not lose sight of the central theme of Passover, which is to remember ..."

      Seems you've forgotten already Israel's brutal and un-necessary occupation of other folk

  • Haaretz joins Rush Limbaugh and company in trying to link Max Blumenthal to KC shooter suspect
    • hophmi "Are you seriously arguing here that the Palestinian objection to a Jewish state (and the Arab objection to a Jewish state) is based on the 1st and 14th Amendments or anything like them?"

      At that point Hostage was talking about "we reserve the right under our Constitution ".

      "Their objection is based on two things – history and the presence of a non-Muslim, non-Arab state in a region that is otherwise ethnically exclusive"

      The Arab claim has been based on rights and legality, from the outset til the present day.

    • Mayhem "He should face up to the consequences for empowering those who prefer to demonise instead of rationalize"

      There's nothing rational in Israel attempting to illegally usurp a people from their land. It's self demonization 101.

    • yonah fredman Your concerns are so touching....

      Say, Is anyone gonna die because of anything Max writes? Is anyone gonna die because of Max's alleged 'monomaniacal' renaming (which could be a simple error on his part)

      Meanwhile Israeli Governments' continual and purposeful lies continue to cause plenty of death and destruction. link to wp.me

      Israeli Governments' continual and purposeful lies continue to dupe Israeli citizens into believing the State of Israel can sell them land in occupied territory. Israeli lies cause actual death and destruction. Israeli lies split the Jewish community.

      Yet Israel's purposeful destructive lies seem to be of no concern. Why?

  • Updated: Remote-control gun installed atop wall near Bethlehem -- Ma'an
    • @ ymedad "Hostage, you an example of how difficult it is to hold a discussion/debate here."

      Mmmmmm. WOW! That sure is potent stuff. Except ... you've failed to show how!

    • @ DaBakr "What can I say?"

      You could try "Israel has borders" and support it with facts link to trumanlibrary.org

      "Imagine how much more obnoxious it would be if we put up huge posters of Netanyahu facing the territories like they do in…wherever."

      "Palestine" is the word you're having trouble saying. BTW 65 years of occupation link to wp.me , territorial theft and the ghastly separation wall is obnoxious enough without clown pictures link to wp.me

      "I would bet the Palestinians would be more upset about that then the wall mounted riot control"

      Mindless speculation is cute... you can say anything

    • ymedad s"All of the Jewish prophecies inn the Bible indicate a return, a reflowering and a revitalization of Jewish political, social and religious life in the Land of Israel"

      Irrelevant to the State of Israel's legal obligations from the moment Israel was proclaimed and recognized as it asked to be recognized effective 00:01 May 15th 1948 (ME time) "as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947" link to trumanlibrary.org

      Take your pathetic whining to the Zionist Movement whose demand for a separate state robbed Jewish folk of the right to settle as Israelis in non-Israeli territory in Palestine and whose illegal expansionist state policies have robbed the region of peace for the last 66 years.

    • @ DaBakr Israel should absolutely take no measures to protect its soldiers from enemy fire

      if you say so... A better way of protecting them would be to get out of all non-Israeli territory for once.

    • @ Steve JFGB "The right of Jews to return to their historic homeland is the right granted by the State of Israel"

      Sorry Israel's territory is not the same area as the Jewish People's Historic Homeland

      ,“MY DEAR MR. PRESIDENT: I have the honor to notify you that the state of Israel has been proclaimed as an independent republicwithin frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947, and that a provisional government has been charged to assume the rights and duties of government for preserving law and order within the boundaries of Israel, for defending the state against external aggression, and for discharging the obligations of Israel to the other nations of the world in accordance with international law. The Act of Independence will become effective at one minute after six o’clock on the evening of 14 May 1948, Washington time.”

      Israel has not since legally acquired any territory link to pages.citebite.com

      Go bitch to the Zionist Movement for demanding a state, they took away the right of Israelis to settle anywhere in the Jewish People's Historic Homeland. Israelis have no legal right to illegally settle in non-Israeli territory unless they'd like to forgo their Israeli citizenship.

      "Israel, like any other country, is entitled to its own immigration criteria"

      .. within its actual borders. Go whine to the Zionist Movement

    • @ DaBakr "vast library of anti-Israeli propaganda to prove that Israel does indeed have some form of remote controlled munitions (duh) which do not subject the operators to direct fire >"

      Example of anti-Israeli propaganda link to jpost.com

      "Better Israel force its female soldiers to come under direct fire from Palestinian militants because-uh-thats what real macho nations do"

      If you say so pal.

      "I know…better the border guards be physically stationed with guns on the towers because that is like….so much less intimidating"

      If you say so pal.

      "Of course I am sure to hear how this makes no sense at all and I am a ‘brainwashed’ something or other and blahdeedahdeedah"

      If you say so pal.

    • Steve JFGB "In article 6 of the Mandate the League of Nations called for the facilitation of Jewish immigration and the encouragement of “close settlement by Jews on the land”"

      As citizens of Palestine Article 7 .. same document

    • @ ymedad Uh huh. Some factual problems with your theory...

      Jewish forces started their slaughterfest under Plan Dalet, escalating the civil war in Palestine before Israel proclaimed its borders. Razing farms, homes, villages in territory NOT allotted for the Jewish state and not declared as being sovereign to the Jewish state and never legally acquired as Israeli territory

      Jewish forces were outside of the territory proclaimed as Israel on the day Israel's territory was proclaimed, they were outside the territory of the State of Israel on the day Israel was accepted into the UN. They have never withdrawn from non-Israeli territory the Israeli Government claimed was "outside the State of Israel".."in Palestine" link to wp.me

      It has been illegal to acquire territory by war since at least 1933 link to pages.citebite.com

      According to the Israeli Government, there has been occupation since at least May 22nd 1948 link to wp.me the links there are to Israeli Government statements you will probably never find in an Israeli schoolbook. It's quite important to keep Israelis ignorant in order to rip them off and play the innocent victim

      If you oppress people, they will resort to ghastly tactics, especially when the law which has been in their favour all along, cannot be exercised because of a UNSC Veto vote.

      Go yell at the Zionist Movement

    • Most likely device like a water cannon link to maannews.net

  • Friedman prepares American Jews for a divorce from zealot Israel
    • @ Rational Zionist "No one seems to be willing to present realistic options to solving the problem"

      Israel adhering to the law and its own proclaimed borders isn't realistic?

      "Please don’t go into the population percentages in the 1930 census. Please don’t go into the fact that the Jewish State was supposed to include the land from the Med to the North-South railroad (now in Jordan).
      Let’s deal with facts on the ground today"

      OK Israel proclaimed and was recognized by its borders, as it asked to be recognized link to trumanlibrary.org . Israel has not since legally acquired any territory beyond its borders link to pages.citebite.com

      "1. Jerusalem won’t be divided. It truly is a religious thing"

      It is already divided and religion is irrelevant to the legal sovereign extent of the State of Israel.

      "2. Major settlement blocks won’t be removed. There is no practical way 300,000 people and their jobs can be relocated"

      Then they can become Palestinian citizens, because they're not in Israel. (BTW It seemed OK to dispossess 711,000 non-Jews in 1948/49 without bothering to relocate them link to pages.citebite.com)

      "3. Hebron won’t be abandoned. Again, a religious thing."

      It is already divided and religion is irrelevant to the legal sovereign extent of the State of Israel.

      "My solution would be land swaps, and a request that Jordan give up some land on the East Bank to facilitate this"

      Why? Israel has plenty of illegally acquired Palestinian territory it is required BY LAW to withdraw from link to wp.me . How about Israel give some of that back

      " I would suggest that monetary compensation be given (with no idea where it would come from) to the displaced (including both Pals and Jews)"

      Israel can't afford 65 years of reparations, resettling its illegal settlers back in Israel and the civil war that's likely to ensue (An Israeli civil war in non-Israeli territories)

      "Do you have any constructive ideas?"

      Israel adhering to the law and its own proclaimed borders for once? Stop lying, stop stealing, stop denying stop coming up with crap irrelevant demands that have no basis in law

  • American citizen, translator and student—Mariam Barghouti arrested and detained in West Bank
  • Fear of Arab-Americans in the public square
    • @hophmi Got a source for that particular 'six times more likely' 'truth'?

    • hophmi "You’re just spewing a lot of hot air rhetoric."

      None of which you can disprove..

      "None of these kids have been censored in any way. No one has prevented them from writing op-eds for their school newspapers, introducing divestment resolutions, or for engaging in activism on campus, including mock checkpoints and the like, so long as they comply with college rules"

      Intimidation via Zionist smears and false accusations swiftly follows.

      Speaking of rules. Israel could avoid delegitimizing itself immediately by abiding by the rules for once... the lack of adherence has caused thousands of deaths. I haven't read of any deaths caused by students attempting to have Israel's illegal activities curtailed via BDS

    • @hophmi You're so right Hophmi "No one is censoring Muslims and Arabs on campus. No one. "

      The Zionist colonizers attempts to silence and/or smear anyone critical of the Zionist state's ongoing colonization of Palestine. By law or intimidation with their legendary smears and false accusations Muslims, Jews, Christians, atheists, all are a threat to the State of Israel's insane ongoing coveting of usurping other folks' property

      "When BDS tactics violate school rules, groups get censured"

      When state's violate their legal obligations they get censured. Israel has ignored some 60 years of being censured for not having adhered to its legal obligations, 60 years of opportunities for peace wasted. Resulting in the deaths of tens of thousands and the dispossession and usurping of the people of Palestine, their territory and its resources.

      Had Israel adhere to the law, stayed within its proclaimed and recognized borders , there'd be no need for any BDS against Israel. The vast majority of states living peacefully within their OWN territory, have no BDS actions against them.

  • Palestinians can have an embassy in Jerusalem, but God forbid not a capital -- Israeli mayor
    • @ Hostage claro .. shall adjust

    • yonah fredman Some facts for you and your fellow apologists to keep ignoring.

      Israel was proclaimed and recognized as it asked to be recognized, according to UNGA res 181. link to trumanlibrary.org

      Subsequent UNGA and UNSC resolutions are based on that fact.

      corpus separatum was never instituted. Jerusalem has never been legally separated from what remained of Palestine after Israel was declared independent of Palestine.

      "but based upon resolution 242"

      UNSC res 242 was based on Israel's proclaimed and recognized sovereign extent.

      The Jordan/Israel and Egypt/Israel peace treaties tell us the purpose of UNSC res 242 was peace treaties between states

      The annexation of East Jerusalem was illegal because it was unilateral. There was no agreement, no referendum, no self determination by the legitimate inhabitants of the territory being annexed.

    • @ Shuki "The arabs ..... Jews "

      Bigots really are quite stupid and your vile habit of purposefully lower casing the proper noun Arab/s immediately shows everyone you're one sick lil' puppy in need of psychiatric help.

      "The arabs rejected the U.N. plan"

      Irrelevant. The Jewish Agency considered it binding AFTER the Arabs rejected it link to pages.citebite.com

      It was enshrined in the Declaration months after the Arab states rejected it link to pages.citebite.com

      The Jewish state was proclaimed and recognized by it months after the Arab states rejected it link to trumanlibrary.org

      "and then attacked the Jews in 1967 "

      Strange, Unlike UNSC resolution 228 condemning Israel's attack on its neighbours ( in 1966 link to un.org in case you forgot…), there's no UNSC resolution condemning any Arab state for attacking Israel in 1967 0r 1948 for that matter.

    • @ mondonut "When the Jordanians controlled part of Jerusalem they were very tolerant of the Jews. They kindly and politely helped every one of them to leave."

      Of course. It's been pointed out to you and your dimwitted fellows quite a few times. You're such slow learners one wonders how you ever learned to breath out.

      It's NORMAL when states are at war to inter or expel foreign nationals (aliens) and or citizens who're possible 5th columnists and freeze their assets. It's also normal to allow them return and return their assets or pay compensation

      BTW Israeli law 1948 (still current) forbade Israeli residents and citizens entering the territory of a hostile entity.

      Israeli law prevented Israelis, Jewish and non-Jewish, from worshiping in territory under Jordanian sovereign control til 1967. Israeli law prevents Israelis, Jewish and non-Jewish, from returning from Israel to the Arab States Israel doesn't have a peace treaty with

  • Alterman says BDS is helping Netanyahu
    • @ Mike_Konrad "But West Bank?! No way!"

      So when was it changed back to Judea and Samaria after having been renamed the West Bank by the sovereign of the time? It isn't Israel's to rename...

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