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An old Jewish guy in Oz. Tired of the fallacies surrounding the I/P issue. We were given the territory for a homeland state, with more than enough room for every Jewish person on the planet. Even today. Since declaring its frontiers in the May 15th 1948 Israeli Government plea for recognition, Israel has illegally acquired more and more territory outside of it's proclaimed and recognized Sovereign territory. Israel continues to encourage Israeli civilians to break laws that were adopted by the UN and the International Comity in large part because of the treatment of our Jewish fellows under the Nazis. All I ask is that Israel adhere to the law, under which it can easily protect itself, grow and prosper. No Israeli territory has ever been invaded or taken. More than defend its actual frontiers, Israel as illegally acquired large swathes of non-Israeli territories in the laughable notion that they are required for self defense while illegally populating them with Israeli civilians. The Palestinians ask for their legal rights under the Laws all states are obliged to uphold. Israel demands more and more non-Israeli land. The Palestinians have no legal, moral or ethical obligation to forgo any of their legal rights under the laws Israel obliged itself to uphold. I've received too many threats for opposing Israel's policies towards the Palestinians, broken windows, graffiti'd walls, hate mail, I'd prefer to remain anonymous, if that's OK. Who I am is irrelevant. Reliable information is essential to informed dialogue towards resolving the I/P issue. Propaganda has no place in true peace


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  • 'NYT' announces Rudoren's return to NY
    • @ DaBakr ...and commenters is far to tough to be penetrated by anything so simple and blunt as reality

      Reality like Israel being in breach of UNSC resolutions in respect to the territories it occupies such as UNSC res 476? One of the plethora of UNSC resolutions that affords Israel the opportunity to adhere to the binding laws it reaffirms and emphasizes, all of which Israel has ignored.

  • Israel moves to shut down the only Palestinian theater in Jerusalem
  • Siegman says Palestinians are turning to violence 'to achieve freedom and self-determination'
    • @ a4tech "White supremacy is too deeply implanted within many commentators here that it has supplanted their subconscious rationality. While directly benefitting through generations, from stolen land, stolen labour, stolen food, they still think they are entitled to critize the actions of other races, other government and other religion."

      The acquisition of territory by any coercive means was outlawed 1933 by the Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States. link to

      "Just think, by not acknowledging the crimes of your ancestors and their effect to this day, you are being complicit in it"

      The law is in great part formulated BECAUSE of what our ancestors did.

      " You are feeding and nourishing your children from ill-gotten gains, by co-opting with the white supremacist entity that is the US of A. The only losers will be your children and grandchildren in the future, who will be cursing their history and their ancestors for not leaving them a heritage they can wear with pride along with the various other nations of the world"

      And? You seem to have forgotten to make a point. BTW where do you live?

    • Sibiriak November 27, 2015, 10:25 pm

      "What agreement are you talking about?"

      The agreement reached with the incumbent govt, no matter how they got there. It was the beginnings of a legal precedent.

      " You seem to be arguing that Hawaii was stolen fair and square"

      Not at all. Having a agreement of any kind was a legal precedent prior to and in large part helping to formulate the Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States 1933.

      As a matter of what is now Customary International Law, in part brought about by the US setting its own legal custom. The US cannot now recognize the acquisition of territory by any coercive means. link to

      The US can't veto or vote against Chapt VI resolutions against Israel that cite the law, the US must abstain because it'd be breaking the law by denying the law, which is against the UN Charter itself

      The only thing protecting Israel from the force of the law is the oh so precious US UNSC veto vote on any UN Chapt VII resolution calling for action against Israel for its failure to adhere to Chapt VI resolutions

    • Sibiriak "What’s the definition of “legitimate citizens of the territory”? Were recent settlers in those territories counted as legitimate?"

      Prior to annexation no US citizens were citizens of Texas or Hawaii or Alaska

      No territory has ever been legally annexed to Israel by any agreement or legal instrument. Israeli citizens are not the legitimate citizens of non-Israeli territories under occupation, according to the Israeli Government, since at least May 22nd 1948 link to

    • @ a4tech //US annexed Hawaii by agreement with the majority representative//

      "This is straight up a lie, and I’m sure most of your other statements are none different"

      I leave the lies to experts link to

      Hawaii link to
      Texas link to
      Alaska link to

    • @ a4tech "I disagree with you strongly. The entire American state is a 500 year old ... etc ... "

      Prior to the adoption of International Law, the UN Charter and a variety of conventions that Israel agreed to uphold which prohibited the acquisition of territory by any coercive measure link to

      "The Hawaiian islands have been illegally occupied"

      The US annexed Hawaii by agreement with the majority representative. Same for Texas via a referendum of the legitimate citizens of Texas and even Alaska by an agreement with the Russian citizens of Alaska after it was bought.

      The US by adopting the legal custom of having an agreement with the majority representative of the legitimate citizens of the territory to be annexed, was instrumental in that legal custom passing into Customary International Law

      " For the POC and indigenous folks and also the historically conscious European Americans, white supremacy and Zionism have little differences in theory or practice, both are as evil and intellectually deficient as each other"

      The US long ago gave up colonizing any new territories by force. Israel continues.

      "If you disagree with me, then too bad because every college in America supports the same view as mine"


    • @ a4tech "The US is every bit as bad as Israel with regards to oppressing its minority population and have been doing so with impunity ever since it was founded"

      A) Occupied Palestinians are NOT an Israeli minority.
      B) The US is NOT occupying any of its minority populations.
      C) The US doesn't refuse entry of US citizens into the US, whereas Israel refuses to allow its own dispossessed non-Jewish Israeli citizens return to their state.
      D) Except where a foreigner has a criminal record, the US does not prevent minorities from marrying foreigners and co-inhabiting in the US.
      E) The US does not prevent its minority citizens from exiting and reentering the US.

      F) G) H) I) J) K) etc etc etc etc

      "Only now, with the advent of social media, the internet, rising political consciousness among the marginalized and also the changing demographics, things are beginning to change, albeit slowly and with the ever present risk of total collapse of civil society"

      A) The Civil Rights movement was pre social media/internet. B) The US is changing for the better. Israel is not. It's getting worse. C) The US is has no 'ever present risk of total collapse of civil society' that I can identify. D) Any country that treats those it occupies as Israel does is not a civil society

      "And even then, the changes are no way iniated by the government nor the ruling class but are being forced by the oppressed group themselves, mainly the blacks and POC, after suffering from centuries old violence from the state they pledge allegiance to"

      Occupied Palestinians have NOT pledged allegiance to Israel.

      "The tide is changing and soon the oppressors and the people complicit in their actions will face their comeuppance,be that in the USA, Israel or anywhere else"

      While the US maintains the UNSC veto vote on Chapt VII resolutions against Israeli intransigence the tide will remain out

    • @ ivri ".. the immediate “pleasure” in the aftermath of a terror act – in seeing the pain of the victim`s relatives, the fear expressed by others from being stabbed etc. ... It`s a tragic emotional trap and a vicious cycle that threatens the very fate of those who got addicted to it.

      Oh. I get what you mean. Like the bombing of the King David hotel and armchair warriors watching the slaughter in Gaza?

  • Obama can tie Israel's hands? 'Shtuyot!' says Aryeh King
    • “God told Abraham…” God only seemed to speak to a few people

      "Hey dude"

      "Wha ... ?"

      " Yes, you, with the beard and the rod, listen up"

      "Wha ... Who're you trying to fool? Get a life! You're a bush. Bushes don't talk! What's more you're on fire! "

      "You sure I can't talk?"

      "Positive, you're just a burning bush and nothigng more. It's ridiculous to listen to what you have to say or to be talking to you!"

      "Indeed. But you are. BTW that's not how you spell nothing. Is your electorate really gonna believe you met a burning bush that talked and had a spell checker?"

      "You don't know my electorate buddy!"

  • Israeli police shoot two scissors-wielding Palestinian teenage girls, killing one
    • Mooser "Any kind of ballistic clothing or pads will certainly deflect a knife thrust. I assume Israeli security goons have those?"

      Yes. But do they know how to use them?

  • Prominent Israeli settler runs over 16-year-old girl, then shoots her dead
  • Zionism is blocking the path to peace
    • Bravo.

      Tho in the interests of accuracy

      "... United Nations General Assembly adopted Resolution 194, which stated that Palestinian “refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbors should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date ... etc etc”

      UNGA res 194 did not discriminate between non-Jewish Israeli refugees, non-Jewish or Jewish Palestinian refugees or Jewish refugees from the Arab States.

      UNRWA the organization established some twelve months later to help implement UNGA res 194, cared for Jewish refugees in Israel until 1952, when the Israeli Govt took over that responsibility. One should note that having taken citizenship in a country other than that of return, for example Israel, one is no longer a refugee, one has no right to return

      The UN Security Council then passed Resolution 242, calling on Israel to end its occupation of Palestinian territories

      UNSC res 242 was to achieve peace between UN Member states. This is reflected in its mention in the two peace treaties thus far achieved. UNSC Res 242 doesn't mention Palestinian territories nor do the peace treaties. The UN can only censure full Members, Palestine is not a full member of the UN. The only mention in UNSC resolutions is to "the question of Palestine".

      However, the idiotic notion that UNSC res 242 did not refer to "all" and/or "the" is dispelled in subsequent UNSC resolutions especially UNSC res 252 and its EIGHT reminders, UNSC res 476 being the most encapsulating IMO link to

  • 'Jewish Communal Fund' seeds Islamophobia as toxic as Trump's
    • @ Herchel "Thank Gd Israel has nuclear weapons. It is surrounded by hostile radical Islamic terrorists who want to see it destroyed. "

      Is that the same Gd who didn't even bother to show up during the Holocaust?

      Odd that the neighbouring regional powers have had a peace initiative on the table for years that doesn't contain any threats to destroy Israel. In fact it cedes territories to Israel for peace.

      Israel has ignored it.

      "It’s nuclear capabilities are included among the accomplishments that have allowed it to survive"

      Yes, just having nukes is a threat to use them. Otherwise there's no point having 'em. The Jewish State is the only state in the region threatening its neighbours with nukes

      "That is why the Arabs are now turning to BDS with the help of self hating Jews and other useful idiots"

      Asking a state to adhere to International Law and the UN Charter is self hating and idiotic? WOW!!! That's amazing!

  • Hillary Clinton equates ISIS and Hamas
    • @ ivri "The simple answer is: they don`t allow that or anything close to that"

      Perhaps you can explain then why the US abstains from voting on UNSC Chapt VI resolutions and vetoes UNSC Chapt VII resolutions against Israel, when Israel is in clear breach of the UN Charter and binding laws those resolutions reaffirm and emphasize

      "Despite what you read here – and people already convinced themselves that what in effect is sheer propaganda is the truth just because it is kept repeated by likeminded others"

      Like the LoN Mandate for Palestine gave Jews a state? Israel didn't proclaim any borders? The IDF is the most moral army in the world? etc etc etc

      "there is a real convergence of interests between the two countries and a lot of effective mutual cooperation in various important fields"

      These effective mutual cooperation in various important fields, name a few

      "... Israel IS highly appreciated in the US for its frontier spirit, the “can do” attitude, the ability to create a successful economy out of nothing (and even if Israel was helped it did use that effectively) and survive in hard conditions and under dire threats"

      And the Ziodollars it uses to buy US politicians

      "Isn`t it also the American Spirit?"

      The US long ago stopped colonizing. Gave all those it had colonized full citizenship and the vote. Frowns on women being made to stand at the back of the bus. Doesn't have a religious regime dominating all marriages etc etc etc.

    • Interesting discussion

    • @ RoHa "Why should Russia and China pay a price for supporting Assad?

      I doubt the Russians or Chinese really care whether it is Assad or not.

      Regardless of who is in power in a country, the incumbent govt have a right and a duty to attempt to protect the state and majority from an armed uprising by a minority. Intervention by another state must be requested either by the incumbent govt, whether we like 'em or not, or by a representative of the majority, whether we like 'em or not.

      Such a majority representative other than the incumbent govt has yet to emerge in Syria. The Syrian Govt has requested Russian assistance.

  • No justice for Tariq Abu Khdeir -- even US State Dep't faults Israeli 'accountability'
    • @ DaBakr "i never claimed the kid wasn’t beat but its still no excuse to ignore a standard filter effect from a simple phone camera app in just about every smartphone sold" all of which distort the background too, unlike the photo above.

      " Its so easy to turn the truth on its head commenting in your own little reality-free bubble"

      Especially if you're an idiot for Israel overdosed on Ziocrap

    • No time to ponder. Get in on the ground level. INVEST HEAVILY in DaBakr's radical & magical new revolutionary Ziofisheye fx lens that doesn’t distort the background.

    • @ DaBakr " the commenters should at least be aware that the above photo of Khadeir was filtered with the ‘fish eye’ lens to exaggerate the appearance of the boys lips bulging out and swollen"

      Interesting theory. Problem: the background shows no fisheye effect. A new Israeli invention perhaps? WOW!!

      "Why would the person who took the image need to exaggerate an obvious black eye and swollen spilt lip with a special fx lens?"

      A special Israeli invented Ziofisheye fx lens that doesn't distort the background. Exciting stuff!!

      " Its already bad enough without a lens filter and just makes some people question the motivation behind this addition to reality"

      Interesting theory you have about "reality". Know where can one buy such a lens?

      Oh ... BTW why are Israel's apologists so &*&^% stupid?

      Oh look another photo taken with the magical Israeli invented Ziofisheye lens link to

    • Ziowhataboutery 101 Alert!

      hophmi "How much time did the officers in the Garner and Brown cases get?"

      AMAZING! It would have prevented the IDF from behaving the way it does? Is that what you mean?

      BTW The blowback from someone who wasn't occupied all their lives wasn't very nice link to

      "What percentage of investigations into American police officers are closed without indictment?"

      Were there more convictions it would somehow change IDF behaviour? WOW! What an interesting theory.

      "How about investigations in to US Army personnel?"

      What a good idea. Then Israel will suddenly end the occupation as required by International Law and the UN Charter ... right?

  • 'Allahu Akbar': A Muslim family in suburban New Jersey responds to the Paris attacks
  • Israeli troops detain and interrogate 6-year-old Palestinian boy in Bethlehem
    • @ Rational Zionist "Either be peaceful"

      Kids learn from their circumstances. He and his whole family have lived under occupation ALL THEIR LIVES! Occupation is instituted thru violence.

      "Elect leaders ..."

      Interesting theory. Know of any countries where 6 yr olds have the vote?

      BTW Israel has never had a legally elected Government as required, under a constitution! link to

      "... who aren’t thieves ... "

      What theft can you actually substantiate? For example:


      “In total, the Fund estimates, the amounts diverted from the official budget from 1995 until 2000, when the diversions stopped, may have exceeded $898m. IMF officials say $799m was returned to the PA, with the difference accounted for by investment losses………the bulk of the money diverted from the budget – including all the Swiss bank accounts – was either given back or invested in companies that became part of the PIF, an assertion backed by the IMF”

      "... liars and murderers ... "

      Accusations are not evidence.

      Here's evidence Israel's early leaders were terrorists link to

      Liars link to

      And thieved some 50% of what remained of Palestine after Israel's borders were proclaimed link to

      "OR LEAVE"

      The Nazis said the same thing to our Jewish fellows, then went down the slippery slope to the Holocaust. In great part that's why International Laws and the UN Charter were adopted.

      The UNSC says Israel must adhere to the Law and the UN Charter and LEAVE!! link to

      Israel has ignored every opportunity the UNSC has offered Israel to comply with the binding legal obligations reaffirmed and emphasized in numerous UNSC resolutions.

      No other country on the planet has been afforded such lenience

  • How do we mourn for the dead when empathy is a battleground
    • Another pathetic try by an Israeli propagandist

      @ Herchel "Updating ones FB pic is about as unlikely to achieve peace as giving away more Israeli land."

      No Israeli land has ever been given away. No Israeli land has ever been lost in a war. No war has ever been fought on Israeli land. Israel's wars have all been fought in other folks territory. Israel has never offered any Israeli territory for peace. In fact Israel never actually offered anything for peace

      Israel has only ever offered to swap non-Israeli territory for non-Israeli territory so that it might keep non-Israeli territory.

      "... Obama doesn’t… He’s still living in the fantasy world where compassion and empathy for maniac terrorists is rational."

      Quotes please ... thx

      " Unfortunately it will take an attack on US soil before the states collectively realizes they need unrestrained military action"

      How did that work out in Afghanistan and Iraq? Say, Isn't IS a repercussion of and in Iraq?

      "Muslim terrorist only speak one language and we should come through loud a clear to them"

      All terrorists actually, including state terrorism and Israeli terrorists

  • 'I endorse the cultural boycott of Israel': Prominent artists support New York-based campaign for cultural boycott of Israel
    • @ olive52 "I will never understand .."

      We know, it's not in the propagandist job brief

      "I believe it would be more of a help if they would come to realization that there is more to gain for them if they had a meaningful desire to coexist"

      Their goal since 1988 has been to coexist in their own state rather than under the rule of a foreign state that has illegally acquired more than 50% of what remained of Palestine after that state proclaimed its borders effective. "Israel, the Occupying Power" who refuses to adhere to the UN Charter and International laws as reaffirmed and emphasized in hundreds of UNSC resolutions reminding Israeli of and affording Israel the opportunity to adhere to its legal obligation to end occupation link to

      "... not even so much for the goal of peace"

      The Palestinians have twice now at the UN in front of the world offered to forgo 78% of their rightful territory for peace with Israel.

      Israel's reply was to build more illegal settlements

      " but rather to prevent the further loss of life and loss of quality of life"

      Israel could end the occupation today. It has no valid reason to continue.

      ...but that realization would take good sense wouldn’t it?"

      Only to an idiot or someone who will never understand

    • @ hophmi " Since most BDS activists know little about the Holocaust"

      Source ?

      "and since BDS literature consciously excludes mention of the Holocaust from its history of the conflict, these misguided activists should be reminded of that aspect of the pain they cause"

      Why would they mention it? The Zionist Federation decided to colonize Palestine in 1897, long before the Holocaust and Israel was "proclaimed as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947 " effective 00:01 May 15th 1948 (ME time) some time AFTER the Holocaust.

      The Holocaust is irrelevant to BDS and it's irrelevant to Israel's illegal actions in territories the Israeli Government itself claimed were"outside the State of Israel" ... "in Palestine".

      The Holocaust in no way justifies Israel's illegal behaviour in the Occupied Territories

      Try something else

  • To help prevent future Paris attacks, stop stigmatizing Muslim communities
    • @ Palikari "To help prevent future Paris attacks, stop Islamic fundamentalism"

      Islamic fundamentalism is in large part a response to hundreds of years of non-Islamic intervention in EVERY Islamic country on the planet.

      "Normal people just don’t become bloodthirsty terrorists overnight, because of “stigmatization” or any other reason"

      So Israel's illegal settler terrorists were born that way or perhaps not normal. Interesting theory

    • @ ivri " Israel has done that for years and was careful to avoid Islamophobia (it is done only by fringe groups in it) and there is little question that such cooperation was highly helpful."

      Non-Jewish ".. refugees from Israel- controlled territory amount(ed) to approximately 711,000"

      " in Israel the Arabs are not immigrants "

      What a weird theory link to

      "and don`t live in neglected neighborhoods "

      Uh huh link to

      Is there no end to your lies?

  • Netanyahu: In wake of Paris attacks, world should condemn attacks against Israel
  • Paris and Islamophobia
  • Theocratic Israel
    • One really should read the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel v e r y carefully link to

    • @ yonah fredman

      "Another case of Phil Weiss preaching to American Jews: you should feel no kinship with the Jews living in Israel."

      Strange what was actually said was "the ruling of this so-called court illustrates how foreign ISRAEL should be to American Jews.

      "It seems to me that the context is a woman who has converted to Judaism and whose conversion is under question. That seems the most likely explanation of what this refers to."

      Not according to the ruling "the Rabbinical Court affirms the plaintiff’s RETURN to Judaism"

  • The way for Americans to take on the Islamic state is to end support for Jewish nationalism
    • @ hophmi

      "George Bush and Dick Cheney ... did so because they thought Iraq was behind 9/11 ..."

      You actually believe the crap you write?

    • @ Citizen "Arab Peace Initiative is unacceptable, says Israel’s peace talks chief "

      None of the reasons given by Israel have any legal basis link to . The Arab initiative demands only the Palestinians legal rights under the Law, UN Charter and relative conventions.

      The Israelis spout bullsh*t!

      The only people with RoR to Israel are non-Jewish Israeli citizens who are now far far outnumbered by Jewish Israelis. In fact they were outnumbered by the mid 1950s with the huge influx of Jews from the Arab states and elsewhere

    • JohnWV "As a signatory to the Non Proliferation Treaty, Iran accepts continuing IAEA inspection and has an internationally recognized right to develop and implement nuclear technology. Having rejected both IAEA inspection and the NPT, Israel has no such right"

      Not so. Israel is an IEAE member. It receives the benefits of IEAE Membership despite refusing to sign the NPT.

    • @ hophmi "Israel’s already virtually accepted by its neighbors. I don’t know where you’ve been. It has peace treaties with Jordan and Egypt, and a working relationship with most of the states in the Gulf"

      A) Israel had to withdraw in order that there be peace. link to

      B) R these the same states in the Gulf ?
      link to

      The lack of a peace agreement with Lebanon has more to do with Syrian influence and the inability of the Lebanese to govern their own state than anything else, and any student of politics knows it

      Nothing to do with invasions Israel has launched? Amazing!

      Israel doesn't have a peace agreement with Saudi Arabia either, and it's got nothing to do with any land conflict. It's got to do with Saudi Arabia's rejection of Israel's right to exist."

      That's despite Saudi Arabia backing the Arab peace initiative ACCEPTING Israel's right to exist. An initiative Israel has refused to even acknowledge.

      The lack of peace with Syria has as much to do with Syria's support for terrorist groups within Israel's own border as it does with Israel's occupation of the strategically important Golan Heights

      Israel only got peace with Egypt when it withdrew form territory sovereign to Egypt.

  • Today's a day to grieve for Paris, not score political points
    • Bill R "... Among the six countries where the major Arab Spring uprisings took place, four of them had (and still have for the most part) Western backed regimes. To call the Arab Spring a Western plot is nonsensical"

      The PNAC didn't seem to think so.

    • A Syrian passport found next to a suicide bomber in the Paris terror attacks may have been planted, German Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere

      link to

    • @ Herchel demonstrates how to create a steaming wad of bullsh*t out of thin air

      //Today’s a day to grieve for Paris, not score political points//

      "Your entire presence Is fashioned to score political points when Arabs are killed. When arabs do the killing, suddenly it’s time grieve and leave politics out of it. I’m sure CAIR and other trustworthy organizations will have your talking points out on this shortly. In the meantime, the world is reminded of the savagery Israel faces and you defend every day"


  • Israeli hospital raid reflects the criminal behavior of the country’s political leadership
    • @ ivri "The labels can stay. What the Europeans will be charged for the anti-terror assistance can be used to compensate the settlements for sale losses"

      Selling stolen property is illegal. But you know this already.

  • Netanyahu's fancy watch
  • US and Israel rewrite history of UN resolution that declared Zionism is racism
  • Zionism, anti-blackness, and the struggle for Palestine
    • @ Mikhael "Most of the attacks have occurred in Jerusalem, the capital of Israel"

      Jerusalem is not in Israel

      1. Reaffirms the overriding necessity to end the prolonged occupation of Arab territories occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem; link to

    • Mikhael digs a deeper Ziohole

      "If non-Jewish police in Paris, Toronto or Sydney (or in Jerusalem, the capital of Israel) shot and killed a Jew who was brandishing a knife and threatening to kill or wound non-Jewish police or non-Jewish bystanders and refused to drop a knife when ordered to do so, that would be perfectly acceptable and not anti-Semitic"

      Habtom Zerhom wasn't doing any of the above. BTW Jerusalem isn't in Israel link to

      "Law enforcement anywhere, when they have a reasonable fear for their own lives, are entitled to use deadly force against anybody who poses a threat to them or others"

      Habtom Zerhom wasn't threatening anyone

      ".. NYPD in all likelihood had reasonable grounds to fear for their own safety and shoot Gidone Busch, a mentally disturbed Hassidic Jew who was acting erratically and brandishing a hammer in New York 16 years ago"

      Habtom Zerhom wasn't threatening anyone or brandishing anything

    • Mikhael

      " typical Talknic senility"

      Oh? You didn't give a source until pressed, which is typical M/O

      "Here are some nice examples:"

      'Examples' that don't show any glee. Your M/O is still intact

      " There is no sufficient or significant evidence or testimony on why he was initially shot ... He may have been shot in the crossfire or the soldier who shot him may have mistakenly believed, in the split seconds after the Bedouin attacker, Muhanad Alukabi, murdered the soldier and shot 10 other"

      Uh huh, no sufficient or significant evidence or testimony . So you make something up

      " What does a Palestinian look like?"

      That'd be in the eye of the beholder

      "He was shot in the immediate chaos and confusion of an Arab terrorist who was shooting. "

      But he wasn't shooting. He wasn't running. He was deliberately shot. BTW what does an Arab look like?

      "BTW, did you read what I wrote about the bystanders needing to be brought to justice? "

      Irrelevant to the question I asked. Typical M/O

      "Also by the way, and without excusing or justifying the mob attack on the already-fatally wounded man, did the shooting incident where bystanders were wounded in Manhattan occur in the context of a wave of stabbing and shooting sprees conducted against New Yorkers and where somebody shouted that the wounded were involved in committing such attacks?"

      Now you're really babbling!

      // Oh? Not checking his ID wasn’t negligent? WOW!! Again, why was he misidentified? //


      Oh? Let's see.

      "Maybe they should have checked the ID of Alukabi, the actual perpetrator, before they interrupted his shooting spree?"

      'they interrupted his shooting spree' You answered your own question Typical Hasbara apologist. No matter how hard they try, they always trip up

    • Mikhael " The violent interactions that have occurred have happened mostly in poor neighborhoods like Shapira and Neve Shaanan in South Tel Aviv, where long underserved veteran residents feel like the migrants have been dumped on them"

      Imagine how the Palestinians 1897 to the present must feel ...

      "After recurring incidents where Israelis were robbed or assaulted by migrants, tensions boiled over and vigilante violence erupted. "

      "vigilante violence"? WTF happened to the police?

      "The migrants attacked by the Israeli vigilantes of course had nothing to do with the violence, but mobs of course are not known for making this type of distinction. "

      Israeli vigilantes, from the light amongst nations ... interesting concept

      "Sure. Tell this to the blacks beaten up by the Arabs in Kafr Manda"

      They were Israelis in Kafr Manda

    • @ Mikhael // Annie Robbins November 16, 2015, 4:22 am

      source? //

      "There have been multiple incidents of Jews who were misidentified as Arab terrorists/stabbers who were attacked by Jews during this recent bout of violence the past few weeks,"

      = no source. Typical Ziopoop MO

      "many gleefully reported here on Mondoweiss"

      Gleefully? You really have lost the plot.

      "ignoring the fact that in nearly every case where this happened, those who attacked them were also Mizrahim"

      Every case? How many have there been?

      "There is nothing to regret or apologize for when Defense Forces or Border Police do their job and eliminate the threat from knife-wielding lunatics."

      When they do, when there are actually knife wielding lunatics. For the most part there's quite simply no evidence.

      "In the case of Mr Zerhom, his initial shooting was by security forces was due to his being misidentified as one of the terrorists, unfortunate, but understandable. "

      Why was he misidentified? Was he threatening anyone? Running? Anything other than looking like he might have been a Palestinian?

      "(Incidents were innocent bystanders are shot by law enforcement are not uncommon, bullets go astray and mistakes are made in these kinds of tense situations — take for example, the wounding of many bystanders by NYPD after a gunman went amok in Midtwon Manhattan a few years ago. "

      But he was not shot in any accidental crossfire or stray bullets. He was deliberately shot because he looked like a Palestinian. BTW were any of those accidental NYPD victims then kicked in the head by bystanders calling for their deaths?

      "In and of itself, his tragically being shot was not necessarily a criminal act, or even a negligent act, by the Israeli security on the scene. "

      Oh? Not checking his ID wasn't negligent? WOW!! Again, why was he misidentified?

      "The mob attack on him AFTER he was shot was, however, a crime and the perpetrators must be brought to justice"

      Indeed, but will they? For all they knew, he was a Palestinian terrorist. Only AFTER he was DEAD was he correctly identified.

    • @ DaBakr "I think that by aligning themselves with the far-left fringe progressives in EU and US the Palestinians have again-as they have before-cut off their noses to spite their face."

      Far better to align themselves with the far right eh? And suffer more dispossession, illegal settlements

      "It gives them false hope that by linking with other far-left fringe they will improve their chances of accomplishing their goals"

      Like having been recognized by the majority of the UN. Wasn't with the help of the far right!

      "The kind of allies they need are friends that can speak cold hard truths to them about what will be entailed to accomplish a solution-unless they simply wish until fate, time and circumstance turn their way (10-50-200 years? who knows. Israel has friends in the EU, Asia and US to scold, berate and push for both large and more subtle shifts in attitudes. "

      Yes we know how Zionist bullsh*t flows

      "The Palestinians have almost nobody of merit telling them what the consequences of indoctrinating their young into praising violent attacks against Jews, that Israel does;t exist, that Jews were never native to the land etc. "

      The Israelis will never learn that occupation and the illegal acquisition of territory comes at a cost

      "I could go on ..."

      Uh huh. Just a little more steaming Ziopoop to top your post off. Charming

  • Seachange in public opinion: 'I am tired of Israel using US-made rockets to bomb Palestinians so that ultra-conservatives can steal their land'
    • @ Doubtom "Kinda makes you wonder at the usefulness of the United Nations, doesn’t it? "
      Don't demolish the house because there's a door with a broken hinge. The UN does an enormous amount of good work in many arenas.

      "Israel has been flipping the UN the bird for as long as it has existed"

      Only because it's protected from Chapt VII action by the US UNSC veto vote.

    • " Resolution 242. It is International Law and binding."

      Not quite. UNSC resolutions are specific to events between specific parties.

      Whereas, the Laws and UN Charter principals re-affirmed and emphasized in UNSC or any other UN resolutions are binding and remain in force until they are rescinded, they apply before, during and after specific events are over

      UNSC res 242 was a reminder to the UN Member states involved of binding Law and their legal obligations. BTW There was no requirement to negotiate any borders in UNSC res 242. The UN Members it concerned already had recognized borders link to

      Subsequent UNSC resolutions show clearly what was meant by UNSC res 242. Ditto the two Peace treaties ( with Egypt & Jordan ) Negotiations were not over borders, but how to achieve peace through withdrawal to the existing recognized borders. Israel was required, agreed and withdrew from all territory sovereign to Egypt.

      UNSC res 476 for example

      1. Reaffirms the overriding necessity to end the prolonged occupation of Arab territories occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem;
      2. Strongly deplores the continued refusal of Israel, the occupying Power, to comply with the relevant resolutions of the Security Council and the General Assembly;
      3. Reconfirms that all legislative and administrative measures and actions taken by Israel, the occupying Power, which purport to alter the character and status of the Holy City of Jerusalem have no legal validity and constitute a flagrant violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War and also constitute a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East;
      4. Reiterates that all such measures which have altered the geographic, demographic and historical character and status of the Holy City of Jerusalem are null and void and must be rescinded in compliance with the relevant resolutions of the Security Council;
      5. Urgently calls on Israel, the occupying Power, to abide by this and previous Security Council resolutions and to desist forthwith from persisting in the policy and measures affecting the character and status of the Holy city of Jerusalem;

      The arguments over 'the' and 'all' were delaying tactics. While there was no resolution Israel could continue grab as much as possible. The argument before and after the adoption of the resolution are irrelevant and 'in other words' likewise do not apply. Only the exact words of a resolution are the resolution.

  • Video: Undercover Israeli soldiers kill one, arrest one inside Hebron hospital
  • Israel gets to use violence. Palestinians don't. That's the rule
    • @ olive52 <em" both Arabs and Jews were coexisting there for centuries"

      Correct. All Jewish folk could have returned to Palestine from after the fall of the Roman empire til 1922. Few bothered. Even Herzl could have in his life time. He didn't bother, nor did his family and those Jews who'd stayed in Palestine lived in relative peace and were in the main against the UNGA partition plan 1947

      " when Arabs rejected the British mandate to divide the land

      Oh? Under what LoN Mandate for Palestine article? Please quote it .... after you've read Article 7 link to

      According to the Israeli Government [ link to ] the LoN Mandate for Palestine terminated BEFORE Israel's borders were proclaimed effective at 00:01 May 15th 1948 (ME time) [ link to ]

      "(land that never belonged exclusively to Arabs)" It didn't belong exclusively to Jews either. In fact only a small percentage of 'real estate' in Palestine was bought by Jews link to

      Private and institutionally owned 'real estate' does not give anyone the right to 'territory'. Numerous foreign companies and govts own 'real estate' in Australia, they have absolutely no territorial rights what so ever.

      In fact Israel was given completely gratis the territory for the Jewish state. It cost the state of Israel absolutely nothing.

      "but of course the blame must always be on Israel"

      Israel is carrying on illegal activities in territories "outside the State of Israel" ... "in Palestine"

      The Palestinians demand their legal rights in accordance with the UN Charter and International Laws Israel agreed to uphold. Israeli demands for recognition, land swaps and a demilitarized Palestine have no legal basis what so ever

    • Rational Zionist "The land wasn’t Arab, and it definitely wasn’t Palestinian. It was a League of Nations/UN Mandate"

      Odd the Mandate was called The League of Nations Mandate for Palestine! link to

      Under Article 7 of the League of Nations Mandate for Palestine Jewish folk could immigrate and have Palestinian citizenship!

    • @ Rational Zionist "Israel is not going away"

      Fine. How about Israel stick to its borders for a once. Never been tried link to

      "It has made peace with the Egyptians"

      Israel first agreed to withdraw from all occupied Egyptian territory link to

    • @ Rational Zionist "“The Palestinians will always miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.”"

      You really have been brainwashed.

      From the fall of the Roman Empire there was opportunity for Jewish folk to settle anywhere in Palestine, without being illegal settlers. Why did so many Jews NOT take advantage if, as we’re led to believe by the Zionist colonizers, it was such a burning desire.

      They didn’t. They missed that opportunity. Herzl could have in his lifetime gone to Palestine, acquired citizenship, bought land and settled. He didn't bother. Nor did any of his family. Nor did the Zionist Federation (until 1936)

      The next opportunity was recognized by the British via the Balfour Declaration. A Jewish homeland, in Palestine. All citizens would have been guaranteed equality, freedom of religion, democracy

      The opportunity was there under the British Mandate over Palestine It even offered an opportunity of assistance similar (perhaps even less restrictive than the arguments being bandied about today) to Israel’s current Law of Return. Article 7 The Administration of Palestine shall be responsible for enacting a nationality law. There shall be included in this law provisions framed so as to facilitate the acquisition of Palestinian citizenship by Jews who take up their permanent residence in Palestine. (missed opportunity)

      The opportunity was there in the British White papers in 1922 (missed opportunity)

      The opportunity was re-iterated in the British White papers in 1939 (missed opportunity)
      Was it the Palestinians who took this right away? No. In fact, they had no say and were being represented by the Arab States who said when outlining their legal case for the 1948 Invasion of Palestine, “.. in accordance with democratic principles, whereby its inhabitants will enjoy complete equality before the law, [and whereby] minorities will be assured of all the guarantees recognised in democratic constitutional countries, and [whereby] the holy places will be preserved and the right of access thereto guaranteed.” Almost identical to the missed opportunity offered in the Balfour Declaration, the missed opportunity in the British Mandate over Palestine, the missed opportunity in the White papers, per the League of Nations Charter and later the UN Charter. It was their argument from the outset for all Palestinians, Jewish and non-Jewish, to determine their own fate and to have the opportunity to decide where they would settle in Palestine.

      The UNSC gave Israel numerous opportunities via UNSC resolutions to adhere to the binding Laws and UN Charter as emphasized and reaffirmed in those resolutions. Israel has missed all of those opportunities.

      The opportunity has been missed by the Zionists and the State of Israel at EVERY opportunity!

      In the situation as it stands today, Israeli civilian law, Israeli civilian settlements, Israeli civilian infrastructure and Israeli civilians in non-annexed territories, in territories illegally annexed by Israel and in “territory occupied” and not withdrawn from (i.e., still occupied) , all run contrary to International Law and the Geneva Conventions. They are ILLEGAL!

      Israeli Jews (and non-Jews) are restricted under International Law and the Geneva Conventions, to only being able to legally settle in actual Sovereign Israeli territory.

      ‘What about the Jews who were dispossessed in the Arab States?’ Most of the Arab States were never a part of the Jewish homeland in Palestine and the restriction on Jews living in TransJordan was imposed by the British BEFORE TransJordan achieved complete independence.

      ‘What about Jewish folk dispossessed from ‘Judea & Samaria’ under TransJordan?’ Unfortunate, but it happened as A) a reaction to Israel dispossessing hundreds of thousands of non-Jewish Palestinians, AFTER Israel became an Independent Sovereign State. and B) there was a WAR going on. Folk who’re likely to side with an entity’s enemies are expelled or interred. The US did it. The UK did it. Australia did it.

      So, who ‘never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity’? Why other than the demand for a separate Jewish State, are the Jewish people deprived of the right to legally settle in all of their historic homeland in Palestine today?

      The Palestinians have been under the control or occupation of one entity or another since the Roman era and before. In the entire history of Palestine, there has never been an opportunity they might have been able to declare Independent Sovereignty.

      Instead of Israel’s founders demanding the right to a Jewish homeland in Palestine, as equals, they demanded a separate Jewish State. It has resulted in some 50% of the Palestinian’s rightfull territory being wiped off their map. Illegally acquired by war. Illegally annexed. Illegally built on and illegally sold, to illegal Israeli settlers.

      Now that Israel exists as a separate Sovereign State, the ONLY way Jewish folk will ever have the right to legally settle in their historic homeland anywhere in Palestine, will be for Israel to end occupation, withdraw to it’s Sovereign boundaries. Allow the Palestinians their independent sovereign state in their rightfull territories, whereby they can develop a constitution granting Jewish folk that right. The only thing making it illegal today, is the current Government of the Jewish State. The only thing stopping the possibility of it happening in the future, are the Jewish State’s illegal activities today. Missing opportunity after opportunity!

      You're barking up the wrong tree. Go yabber at the people responsible. The Zionist Federation and the Israeli Government

    • @ Rational Zionist You've come to the wrong place for Ziopoop

      " every single exchange has been started by the Palestinians,"

      Strange. The Zionist Federation decide to colonize Palestine in 1897. link to Long before the Holocaust, before the LoN Mandate for Palestine

      " Following the 1967 war, Israel offered to return all captured land, including the Golan and Sinai in exchange for peace "

      Link to the document/s please ... thx

      "And this was before the settlements and other excuses were around "

      More bullsh*t. On the 22nd May 1948 the Israeli Government itself officially stated the status of territories "outside the State of Israel" ... "in Palestine". Territories it held under military occupation.

      On the 12th Aug 1948 the Israeli Government officially proclaimed it occupied Jerusalem Jerusalem Declared Israel-Occupied City- by Israeli Government Proclamation 12 Aug 1948

      "Do Israelis want peace? YES. "

      Then stop illegally settling in non-Israeli territories. It's quite simple. Go live in Israel that's what it's for. Israel agreed to withdraw from all territories sovereign to Egypt before it got peace with Egypt.

      Apart from repeating warm ziopuke, what evidence can you put forward for your accusation "The graft and corruption pays too well to settle for peace". Remember, an accusation is not evidence

  • Saddam was just a 'neighborhood bully,' Netanyahu says-- 13 years after saying Saddam threatened 'security of our entire world'
    • @ ivri "Do you REALLY think that Israel treats minorities in it worse than any country around it and very many others in the world?"

      Warning: OT Hasbara deflection tactic 101

      A) How many wrongs make a right ivri? B) Any of those countries occupying another people?

      "If you can reach a mental state where you can be honest enough with yourself to answer that fairly y you will begin to understand why people`s attitude to how Israel react to threats to it is so much different than what you suggest it should be"

      Uh? There were no threats to Israel from any WMDs when the US invaded Iraq and there are no threats to Israel from Iran. The Iranian stance has been to reiterate in their own words UNSC res 476 link to

      Israel is in breach o International Law and the UN Charter for its actions in non-Israeli territories.

    • @ Palikari "Saddam was a bloodthirsty, genocidal dictator who gassed his own people and committed mass human rights violations"

      You mean Assad? Oh no that's right, it's just the same MO for morons with short memories

      "He had to be overthrown. And I am very glad he was"

      BDS worked in Sth Africa. Quite legal. The invasion of Iraq was not legal in any sense of the word, nor was it a raging success.

    • @ ivri "But the fear that Saddam is developing nukes was real at the time – not a fictional excuse "

      The fear the fear. Pushed by fear mongers ... The fear didn't equate to reality

      link to

      Ziocaine really does turn brains into Ziopoo

    • @ ivri November 11, 2015, 10:55 am

      "A lot of things look differently in hindsight "

      Indeed. But the 1998 Letter to Clinton from the PNAC (overloaded with Zionists who eventually infested GW Bush's Whitehouse) wasn't in hindsight. It demanded what has now happened to Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria

  • Egypt's destruction of Gaza tunnels leading to economic and environmental disaster
    • @ DaBakr "so when is the BDS Egypt starting?"

      Right behind you pal ... what's the web address for your petition?

      It took a half century or so and numerous ignored UNSC resolutions for BDS to start against Israel for its illegal activities in non-Israeli territories.

      The usual MO is to first lobby one's own politicians to bring some weight to bear on the Egyptian Govt. Failing that, BDS usually emerges from unfunded individuals and grass roots organizations.

    • @ DaBakr "when I see a well funded campaign on American campuses and the streets of the EU directed at Egypt "

      A) If there were/are well funded campaigns against Israel's illegal activities in non-Israeli territories, you might have a point.

      B) do you want Egypt to break its peace treaty with Israel? link to

      "And BTW-a fool is still a fool wether they are Jewish or something else."

      Yes indeed. Only a fool would support with a plethora of nonsense excuses a state in breach of International Law, the UN Charter and more UNSC resolutions than any other state on the planet

    • @ Herchel It's quite legal for the occupied to import by what ever means they can the weapons of resistance. BTW their home made rockets are not imported and explosives can be made from chicken droppings.

      Terror is define as targeting civilians. One cannot ascertain the target of an unguided rocket from the receiving end. Furthermore, the IDF memorial site shows more IDF have been targeted injured and killed than have Israeli civilians. Israeli military, military supplies, bases, personnel are all valid targets, no matter where they are.

      Statistics on civilian collateral expected in warfare is far far higher than has ever been reported from unguided Palestinian arms

    • @ JJ I guess the Nazis were also glad whenever Jewish tunnels were destroyed link to

  • I went from Bar Mitzvah to BDS at Temple Emanu-el
    • @ yonah fredman "Are you trying to say that they are Jewish"

      Indeed they are. Israeli Jews

      " and just poking fun of them by using a Jewish term to describe them, (something akin to calling them settlerovitzky’s or settlerstein’s)"

      Seems Bumblebye was indeed deservedly poking fun at them

      "Otherwise, I assume that you consider the settlers to be evil."

      They are at the Israeli Government's encouragement in breach of laws largely adopted because of the ghastly treatment of our Jewish fellows under the evil Nazis.

      "Were those who lived in the shtetl evil?"

      They weren't in breach of International Law or illegally dispossessing the rightful inhabitants

  • Jewish American activists unfurl banner in support of BDS at the Western Wall
    • hophmi

      "You don’t get to tell others what “real Jews” look like."

      Their message did. Would a real Jew want to be occupied? link to

    • @ miriam6

      "Codepink chose to invade and desecrate Judaism’s holiest site"

      No mention of Judaism in their message

      "I doubt you would condone a similar invasion of a Christian or Muslim holy site."

      Right wing Israeli Jews and the IDF invade Muslim holy sites quite regularly, guns, firebombs, missiles, boots and all

    • @ Jackdaw "The Jews are a nation"

      American Jews, Australian Jews, Israeli Jews, Chinese Jews, Australian Aboriginal Nation Jews, Canadian Jews, German Jews ...

      " Their religion is Judaism"

      Jewish by birth but Atheist, Muslim, Christian, Buddhist by religion or lack of

      Your point seems to be to demonstrate that you have no idea of what you're talking about

      "The Italians are a nation. Their religion is Roman Catholicism"

      Tell that to Italian Jews pal. link to

    • @ RoHa " So that old whine “the Jordanians kept Jews out, but now Jews can pray at the Wall” is only half true?"

      The West Bank as it is now officially known, was legally annexed at the request of the majority of the legitimate residents Jordan’s annexation was as a trustee only (Session: 12-II Date: May 1950) in accordance with the UN Charter Chapt XI by demand of the other Arab States who were at the time UN Members.

      Israeli emergency Law of 1948 (still in force) forbade Israeli residents and citizens from entering the territory of any hostile state. Jordan was a hostile state according to Israeli law.

      Jordan reciprocated. Quite NORMAL for countries at war to forbid citizens of their enemy to enter their territory. Also quite NORMAL to intern or expel and freeze the assets of potential supporters of one's enemies while at war. It's also quite NORMAL after hostilities have ceased to allow their return and freedom if they have not taken up citizenship in a country other than that of return.

    • @ DaBakr "watch it buddy. its sounds like your implying Israel is a “modern democracy".

      It isn't? WOW. Some people are gonna be disappointed
      link to

      link to

      "but you’ll surely slither out of this rut with a bogus de-explaniation

      I'll leave that to an expert

      link to

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      Slither away ...

    • @ hophmi 'Just curious; can I walk into a mosque immodestly dressed and ..."

      Nope, doesn't matter what you want to do. BTW neither of the Code Pink women are immodestly dressed by any standard for a public place in a modern democracy

  • Obama friends Netanyahu with one-sided statement
    • Sibiriak

      "But it is a “Jewish state” in the same sense that the Russian Federation is a “Russian State”:"

      All Russian citizens are Russian, no matter what their religion, lineage or heritage.

    • @ MaxNarr "Says the lady who didn’t bat an eye when Jews were expelled from Gaza on masse"

      Illegal settlers were deservedly and rightfully expelled from territory they had no right to be in. They and their Government knew they were breaking the law. So what if they were Jewish.

      Try something else Max

    • @ yonah fredman "Any peace agreement should include all issues including the Palestinians living in Israel."

      Please explain.... They're all Israelis!

    • @ Eva Smagacz "Lets not forget rights of Palestinian refugees to return to their land both in Israel and in Palestine"

      Those with RoR to Israel are non-Jewish Israelis

    • There is no valid reason for the US supporting Israel over the issue of Palestine and the Israeli demands are completely nonsensical

      The demand for land swaps, recognition and a demilitarized Palestine have absolutely no legal basis what so ever

      It is absolutely ridiculous for Israel to expect Palestine to swap occupied Palestinian territory for occupied Palestinian territory in order for Israel to keep occupied Palestinian territory

      Recognition cannot be demanded and no other state has recognized Israel as the Jewish state. Israel didn't recognize anyone in order to be granted independence. There are numerous states in the UN who do not recognize each other.

      It is equally ridiculous to expect non-Jewish Arab Israelis to be included with the Palestinian side in a peace treaty. THEY'RE ISRAELIS! Netanyahu has to be the most stupid leader of all time

      Meanwhile, the Palestinians are under no legal obligation even in negotiations to negotiate any of their legal rights away.

      They do have the legal right to demand all the rights afforded under International Law, Conventions and the UN Charter and to demand that negotiations should be only how those legal rights might be brought to fruition

      The great fear of Israel and the Zionist Colonization enterprise is that Israel will one day be made to face the consequences of its illegal actions and thereby become a failed state.

  • Incitement is not the problem-- Ted Cruz using it is
    • @ hophmi "Another argument stolen from the Israelis, who are expected to behave in a way no other nation would"

      You're full of bullsh*t! All nations are expected to adhere to the law. In fact they make a pledge to adhere to the law when they declare statehood and plea to be recognized and ask to be allowed to join the UN

      Through hundreds of UN/UNSC resolutions to Israel reaffirming and emphasizing binding Law and the UN Charter, the UN has afforded Israel more opportunities to adhere to its legal obligations than any other nation on earth. No such leniency has been shown any other nation

    • @ hophmi //“Please tell me any country that does what Israel does and doesn’t get any flak for it.”//

      "Morocco (Western Sahara), China (Tibet), Turkey (Cyprus), India (Kashmir). Which ones have been targeted with an international boycott campaign?"

      Are any of them dispossessing the indigenous populations, building illegal settlements, assisting their citizens to illegally settle? Purposefully mis-labelling goods? And how would it make what Israel does OK?

      Morocco: link to

      China link to

      Turkey link to

      " Which ones have been the subject of half the UNHCR’s resolutions?"

      United Nations High Commissioner of Refugees?

  • An Open Letter to Dan Rabinowitz: Let’s get our facts straight about BDS
    • Like all of Israel's existential threats and demands and excuses and justifications, the demographic threat to Israel because of RoR is quite simply bullsh*t! Like all their other bullsh*t, they depend on people not thinking.

      Israel is no different from any other country on the planet when it comes to the law.

      Only Israel's non-Jewish Israeli citizens citizens have a right to return to the Israeli territory they left in 1948.

      Today they and their lineal descendants are by far outnumbered by Jewish Israelis. There is no demographic threat to Israel. In fact, by 1950 even if every non-Jewish Israeli and their lineal descendants returned, there was no demographic threat because Israel's Jewish population had already swelled far beyond the threat ratio and;

      Like every other country on the planet, non-Israelis quite simply do not have RoR to Israel.

      They do however have RoR to territories the Israeli Government on May 22nd 1948 officially stated were "outside the State of Israel" ... "in Palestine", none of which has yet been legally acquired by Israel through any legal mechanism or agreement.

      The threat is to Israel losing what it has stolen. Losing the resources therein and the taxes. The fear of having to withdraw to its actual borders, taking its very unhappy and duped citizens with it, resettling them, paying out huge class actions they will want for having been victims of 67 years of lies and and paying 67 years of compensation for damages, illegally exploited resources, hardship etc to the Palestinians that would make the German Holocaust reparations look like small change.

      Israel would deservedly become a failed state on a monumental scale

    • @ DaBakr "obviously-some people do believe that BDS does not seek -or “take a position” the complete destruction of Jewish sovereignty in Israel"

      In order to show it's not just your wailgob spewing out unsubstantiated Ziopoop, quote the BDS movement ... thx

    • @ hophmi Another Ziotool in denial and wading in it, big deal.

  • Netanyahu flips the bird to Obama -- 2200 more settlement units!
    • @ ivri "This is peanuts within the whole equation – what `s adding 2200 units means in the world we live in?"

      My, the Zionist Colonization program sure does attract some of the sickest of the sickos

      Each one is another war crime ivri. By your sick criteria Jewish deaths were peanuts in the Holocaust.

  • Actions planned to protest Netanyahu's visit to Washington
  • The idea that people living under violent military occupation must be instructed in nonviolence is problematic

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