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  • One possible framework for a single state in Israel/Palestine
    • teahee June 15, 2010 at 5:50 pm

      Thank you Bandolero. Thank YOU, Jim Holstun. and thanks also to Decentjew for accurately describing Ben Zakkai's whole trip: nothing.

  • Non-violence is not a principle, it is a tactic
    • teahee June 13, 2010 at 6:56 pm

      lobbywiper: smudgy smudgy.

      what a coincidence, the same ones applauding the "non-violence" fetish are the ones pushing the notion that Big Oil ordered the Zionist terrorists to attack the Flotilla. "Strategic Asset" my keister.

      The only question is how long it will take for those with a stake in the continuance of US imperial power to realize what putting Isreali interests atop the US agenda is doing to the US position in the world. Or if, as seems likely, they already realize that Izzy & the ZPCs are dragging their "our sort" trip down the drain but are too scared to try to do anything about it.
      For instance Gen Petraeus: he opened his mouth long enough to describe the emperor's full monty, then chickened out.

    • teahee June 13, 2010 at 3:11 pm

      Max Ajl, thank you for this classic essay. Which everybody should copy & paste on every site and blog dealing with the ME. Or claiming to be "antiWar" etc.
      Lobewyper, better wyp again, your brain still has some smudges.

  • Corporate media's message: Turkey is the new enemy
    • teahee June 13, 2010 at 2:55 pm with 1 replies

      hayate you crack me up:) However I have a question: you refer to "the idf". Is that a code for the Israeli Occupation Forces/IOF?
      thankee v kinely:)

    • teahee June 11, 2010 at 5:59 pm

      lysias, Turkey's ground forces would be a formidable force if deployed against an army invading Anatolia, or invading European Turkey from the west. But offensive operations are a different kettle of fish.
      I think we can assume the IOF would have air superiority, probably air supremacy over the theater of operations. And likely would control the eastern Mediterranean preventing Turkey from using it as a line of logistical communications.
      Turkish forces would need to transit through Syria, into Lebanon and Jordan before they would be able to mount an assault, which would mean giving the IOF air force ample opportunity to attack forces on the march. It's axiomatic Sun Tzu that military formations are weakest when on the move.

      To sustain operations on or near Israeli "borders" (sic) Turkish forces would need to maintain logistical communications, to move mountains of material overland. Some could probably be moved via airlift, if IOF control of the airspace is not completely uncontestable? But most would have to move either via the highway or the railroad system...

      Well, I guess a lot of this "military stuff" could be researched, probably all well thought out by the War Hobbyist bloggers by now?

      Wonder if Turks have tanks to match the Merkavas? Artillery? Missiles? Reserves of ammunition, stocks of all the other stuff an army consumes when the shooting starts...

      Nothing wrong with speculating, even better to speculate on the basis of as much real information as is available: who knows, you might be the one who first sees the shape of things to come...

    • teahee June 11, 2010 at 5:32 pm with 8 replies

      very interesting, Syvanen. Good thinking.

      It turns out that the Turkey/Israel split has been widening for some time now. For Turkey to authorize the use of a ship and to let IHH organize six hundred passengers indicates to me that the split was well advanced well before I or a lot of other "seasoned observers" awoke to it. Exactly what brought it about is not even close to clear to me, will have to do some investigation. ??

    • teahee June 11, 2010 at 4:30 pm with 6 replies

      Thanks for posting this article. I didn't realize that Znet etc had sunk this low. Seems Michael Albert & Co is now openly functioning as part of the Israeli propaganda machine.

      I haven't connected to the Z site for a long time now, about seven-eight years? But at one time I used to log on & try to debate with the Chomsky worshippers. Which I soon realized was a lost cause. But in those days I used to run across some pretty good writing there. No idea whether anybody worth reading still shows up on Z, but anybody with self-respect should put distance between themselves and such as this Mouradian character. Surely if you have something to say you can find a better place to say it?

    • teahee June 11, 2010 at 12:54 pm with 5 replies

      here's what I posted yesterday on Dissident Voice about Israel & Turkey, appended to article " A Bit Less Righteous, but a Bit More Wise"
      by Maryam Sakeenah / June 10th, 2010 (5)

      t42 said on June 10th, 2010 at 1:40pm #

      Good focus, begins to address what antiOccupation activists need to learn from Flotilla attack experience. One thing should be clear: this particular violation of international law by the Israelis does nothing to help the stability of the US Empire or the security of energy supplies.

      Will we hear highly credentialed “experts” tell us again “no it wasn’t about oil per se, it was about the CONTROL of oil”? Will they explain how this attack increased US “control of oil resources”?

      Isn’t it obvious that this affair has actually WEAKENED the US system of alliances? Some “aircraft carrier”.

      Trying to find a coherent explanation for why the Israeli high command decided to attack the Turkish vessel and to needlessly kill several Turkish citizens, how about this scenario:
      t42 said on June 10th, 2010 at 3:16pm #

      “what if”: What if the Zionist leadership has decided they no longer need friendly relations with Turkey; that they believe their strength now is such that they don’t need to depend on the good will of any Muslim country, and now see all Muslim countries as obstacles or potential obstacles to their vision of Eretz Yisrael as the metropole of an empire reaching from the Balkans to Central Asia, even to Indonesia? With the US playing the role of enforcer, of global Hitman with Israel starring as the global Godfather? The US as “bouncer” to the Israelis as Cabaret Owner?

      In this scenario, the aim of the attack on the Flotilla was to create as much friction as possible between the Turkish leadership and the US, in hopes that if US/Turkey relations can be sufficiently poisoned, eventually it may become possible to get the US to launch a bombing campaign against Anatolia, similar to the one vs Yugoslavia/Serbia or Iraq or Afghanistan/Pakistan?
      Nobody in their right mind would contemplate a ground invasion of Turkey, given the terrain and warlike traditions, which are exactly the same reasons nobody in their right mind would contemplate a ground invasion of Afghanistan…

      But aerial bombing & naval bombardment would probably suffice to keep Turkey sidelined from any participation in military developments in the region? Prevent any significant material support to Hizb’Allah when the IOF goes into Lebanon the next time?

      I can see readers on several continents shaking their heads, saying Wow how farfetched can you get and similar things. So I’m looking forward to being told that my imagination is working overtime, and especially to learning in detail why the scenario adumbrated above is stark raving nuts & totally impossible. Yes?

  • Gaza flotilla lesson: nonviolent discipline is the best moral and strategic choice
    • teahee June 11, 2010 at 1:08 pm

      the author cites the "People's Power" campaign in the Phillipine Islands as an example of successful non-violence. The only problem with his rosy scenario is that the situation now in PI is as bad as ever. Same can be said about all the other examples these pious optimists like to trot out.

  • Judt: Who lost Zionism? Who lost Turkey?
    • teahee June 11, 2010 at 4:10 pm

      Legitimacy, "right to exist": what's the point? The constant drumbeat from pro-Israel hasbaristas that the Jewish State has a right to exist; what if we grant them this point? It would mean that nobody could demand the abolition of Israeli Apartheid and the rest of its pseudo-"legal system". It would mean that exposure of the real history of the Zionist movement and of the establishment of the Zionist Entity as a UN-recognized State would be rendered irrelevant.

      That "Israel" behaves in criminal ways is no accident; such behavior is inherent in the true aims of the Zionist founders and the character of the militarized Israeli power structure. Just like the Israel Lobby in the US, the State itself was founded by criminals via a criminal process. To acquiesce in Israeli demands that everybody formally acknowledge this fictional "right to exist" is to abdicate responsibility for abolishing the racism embedded in Israeli laws, institutions and practices.

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