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The War of Ideas in the Middle East
Well that's comforting! They won't have to face Nuremberg standards. "Step up on this chair while we put a rope around your neck."
You think these guys are going quietly. Their depending on that. It's called "cockroaches in a bottle". You just don't realize that their talking about you.
Hej!
"a huge disappointment in the accountability arena." Are you joking?
"“Neocon Thirty” list? Wolfowitz, Cheney, Feith, Wurmsers (2), 2 or 3 Kagans, Rhode, Luti, Woolsey, Ledeen, Bolton, Rice, Rumsfeld, Kenneth Pollack, Bill Kristol". And Bush and Obama as well. All guilty of crimes against this country and International law. "Waging aggressive war" at our expense. And Obama/Hillary are just so OK with it. Actually, he's a more capable and aggressive Neocon than the idiot, little Bush could ever hoped for. Call me naive, but I hope the turning point for the Russians and Chinese is at hand. They have to know their next.
Hej!
"And Obama is likely to get 62 percent of the Jewish vote, down from 78, Pew says. " What, all 65 Billionaires? Is there a Jewish vote that matters? Have the 2 wings of the property party fallen so low that the Jewish vote matters? The Christian wackos yes, but I don't think there is a numerical Jewish vote that's significant? Certainly, the money matters to Demo/Republicans, but their vote count wouldn't seem important in a Nation of 300 million! I'm sure they think that's not the case, but I wonder. Perhaps.
Hej!
My, my, the hasbara is getting polished here. Definitely caught their attention.
Not much left of secular Judeo/Christian nationalism in the Zionist project or the US either?
So what's your point, Crowther.
We secular Americans seem to be trapped by these Neo-Con Kool-aide drinkers and their apologists(you).
Perhaps we need a wider application of the Constitutional expert in chiefs, Yemen policy? A drone over the next AIPAC conference? Netanyahoo's plane lost at sea? No, I don't think this is what the American people want. They've been deceived or silenced.
Hopefully in the end, everyone will get what they deserve.
Yes, it will be ugly. It has been so far. The struggle. Removing an advanced cancer couldn't be otherwise.
I am impressed with Phil finding himself and I think he has, but it may be just 10 days too late? Been there, done that. I don't recommend it.
Hej!
P.S. Anyone see Julian on RT tonight? Very reasonable, aren't they?
But they appear to be in charge?
Your not going to debate them into defeat. Look to those few officers and especially Sargents who have combat experience in the last couple of years. Who do they support overwhelmingly? Ron Paul. Army and Marine combat veterans have learned their lesson the hard way, yet again. They're solid. Bring them home. They're parked in Kuwait right now to keep them off the streets here. If you can debate and shoot, you might have a purpose? Otherwise, it's the empire.
Hej!
Biden would have obtained the Kool-Aide franchise of Jim Jones and sold him Nukes if he just knew how profitable it could have been. He's behind the curve trying to catch up. No need to shoot congressman when you can buy them so cheap? Hopefully, one of his children will ask him someday when he decided to sell out his country and our constitution?
Hej!
Der Fuhrer pose? Netanyahu has several. Ethnic Supremacists are still here. They're not all in the woods in Oregon.
Hej! Tumta
Were Tel-Avi Jane and friends blackmailed by A.G. Alberto Gonzales for leverage on the original Patriot Act? Remember how Pelosi and friends totally rolled over on the Patriot Act while Harman was twisting in the wind? Legitimate wiretap on a slam dunk espionage/Racketeering case that Obummer quietly dismissed after the Bush administration completely milked it. After all, they did have a confession and conviction on Larry Franklin. A star witness. Is this why Democraps signed off on the Patriot Act and Iraq so meekly?
I did notice how uncomfortable Jane's toady appeared to be. So the video was worth watching. This women did make it through security and was within range. I wonder what toady was thinking about? I think I'll watch it again.
Hej!
As this failed state implodes, where will their refugees run to and what will their advocates demand of us? We have our fair share and more of ethnic thugs, but these are the only ones with Nukes and the Dolphins to deliver them.
The Soviet Union imploded in a matter of weeks. It works, until it doesn't and when it goes, it's drops off a cliff. Don't fret the Methodists. Their just 10 days too late as well. Not unusual. It's time to think of what comes after years of complaining about the past.
Hej!
Western colonial Zionist bigots? Who did you think?
Your right. The Palestinian situation is far worse than Apartheid South Africa or American Jim Crow and dare I say it, American slavery. They weren't nearly so competent as the Zionists, no I-Phones. A lynching then involved a rope very crude and fast, not F-16s, white phosphorus and well laid plans.
What was the Methodist vote? Did the percentages improve? Greed is a powerful motivator. Are Caterpillar staff more worried today? They have been very worried for some time now.
My 97 year old grandmother is a Methodist, a fine women. Unfortunately, she believes her in-laws. Should that change, look out! Betrayal can be a bitch.
Hej!
We will see? It would be interesting if Herr netanyahu finds himself in the same bind with his security forces as Gorbachev did in the end? Lonely place.
Hej!
It makes no sense at all. Unfortunately, it seems unavoidable? Hopefully, nothing will end up eradicated, but some semblem of sense is certainly way overdue.
Hej!
He wanted a free trip. Wouldn't you? That's what being popular is often about in the scientific community. Just like everybody else.
I do regret all of the free trips I passed on. Too busy. Tell them what they want to hear, almost. As long as they pay, your not responsible for the excesses, maybe.
Hej! Tumta
Jim Jones with a kipper. Just get to the Kool-aid faster, please. Can you imagine if Jim Jones and company had nuclear weapons, let alone Dolphin submarines to deliver them anywhere on the planet? If this keeps up, perhaps, I should drink the Kool-aid first and skip the finale?
Hej!
Of course he thinks Iran and Hezbollah are a major threat. But not a nuclear one. He knows that in the last 100 yards, the Israeli financial/technological military advantage on the ground evaporates and it's Masada time if Iran can respond sufficiently to the threat of a final genocidal nuclear attack of the Iranian civilian population(MAD). Unlike South Lebanon, cluster bombs won't cut it the next time the Golani Brigrade is trapped. An Iranian weapon means these Israelis will have to fight in the last 100 yards on the ground without their usual advantages for the 2nd time and last time(2006). Not a place they want to go again, hence the new wall.
Hej!
Anybody have any ideas why RT tv on time-warner and other networks is "under maintenance" just before Julian Assange interviews your favorite current right wing Zionist and a former Communist vs. a former Communist now an anti-Zionist, capitalist. I guess the last interview with the leadership of Hezbollah was just too much for the supporters of hope and change. Looked like an interesting interview. Are Americans going to get to see it?
Hej! Tumta
P.S. National Security Letter?
'Danish resistance movement has been honoured at Yad Vashem in Israel as being part of the “righteous among the nations”". So what's your point? They have the Oppressor's seal of approval?
How many Danish Jews who were deported to Theresienstadt transit camp in Bohemia survived? Most of them, none of them? What do the Theresienstadt camp records reveal? Was it a death camp, labor camp or simple internment?
Speaking of Sweden(Denmark was part of the Swedish Empire not so long ago, not the current one), has Yad Vashem honored Count Bernadette as part of the “righteous among the nations”? After all one of their Prime Ministers was complicit in his murder. That would be so bold!
Hej! Tumta
P.S. If your a pork lover, nobody does it better than a Danish breakfast buffet.
My goodness, 138 comments and counting. A shit-storm of details! Must be an Israeli lawyer in here somewhere? The "they say it will be removed" is nonsense. What the Ayatollah was quoted as saying was(paraphrasing) that the Zionist Enterprise will fall of it's own weight, just like so many other bad ideas humans have come up with lately. Stalin, Nixon, Clinton and the endless list of characters(feel free to add to the list).
The issue for the West now is, are we going to let them take us with them(1973)? Maybe, DC is certainly occupied.
I'd prefer to cut our loses at the appropriate point.
Hej! Tumta
I think I'm going to be ill. That's why I avoid this site. Perhaps the Brotherhood should consider a Constitution like Iran or Lebanon. All minorities are represented. Hopefully Egypt doesn't have to have a civil war to get there.
Hej! tumta
I'll bet you, Iran gets nuked to save the Zionist endeavor in the short term? Egypt will be next as Syria will go with Iran and be gone. Just 10 days too late.
You think the Western press will let you know? A German Nobel prize winner can not get his poems published here accurately. How hard will it be to use numerous small nuclear weapons and hide it from you? It's always worked so far?
The Zionists are the supreme ethnic psychopaths. Generations of ethnic paranoia and the empires that have played it so profitably. Ask Uri Averny, if you can get to his article? Uri Avnery's Column,“Pour Out Your Wrath!” 06/04/12 . Read it for yourself....
Hej!
If Iran is attacked you will get the next 10 years compressed into the next 10 months, economically. China has abandoned the dollar, India, Brazil and Russia as well. Once the Saudis accept anything other dollars for oil, well I guess we're all 1 day too late. The Zionist enterprise will vanish from the pages of history as it was founded on quicksand, only now they will take us with them. Ever been in a really bad place, I had hoped not to revisit it, oh well, life's a gamble every day, pay attention.
Hej!
Tumta
You saw a "Whites Only Drinking fountain"? Drank from many of them. Never saw a single instance of "Antisemitism"(whatever that is) in this country at that time, but Jim Crow was very, very harsh for others. Jews could pass, Martin couldn't.
I'm am glad that "real serious Jim Crow" seems to be gone as I was just a young white boy and it truly scared me.
Hej! Tumta
Looks like Provincetown, big stripers on the beach, now we're talking! I am so tired of the Jewish-American dialog. If you didn't tell me, I would have never asked. I don't care about where you think you came from.
If you think that some American Neo-con Jews are going to take us into Genocide in Iran, well you can probably forget about beaches and catching fish?
We appear to be seriously screwed. Americans have enough ethnic/religious sins, we don't need any help from Israel.
I had so hoped Americans would have been so far beyond this point by this time as I'm running out of time.
Oh well, my favorite Ex. always accused me of over-estimating others capabilities. Looks like she was right?
It's difficult to let go, but it appears it must be done. If I flew back to Teheran tomorrow, I'd have nothing to fear until I flew back to the US(for you Beatles fans)!
Hej!
Tumta
The American Neo-cons are seemingly way,way beyond them. No one is shooting bottle-rockets at them, so they have absolutely nothing to fear.
I don't know of a adequate description of their frame of mind? "Super-Predators", "Crocodiles"? No, I don't think so, as the Likud appear much more successful than Nile crocodiles. Stay away from the water!
Hej!
Perhaps we can work with this? Relocate non-Jewish Palestinians to Manhattan, DC and Miami into the former homes of Zionists that have been relocated to West Bank settlements? An upgrade for the Palestinians, I would hope and the realization of the Zionist's fondness desire?
It could work with a little lubricant and a bit of force, don't you think? The Vietnamese are doing well here I think and they arrived on boats from the Pacific. The key is Dersh and Mr. Las Vegas Sands get deported to a West Bank settlement, never to return.
Just a bit more balanced thought on the distribution of hardship.
Hej!
P.S. We'll see if this meets the new rules?
Of course they won't have to, if they use their nukes in the midst of a western oil panic? Just like Japan. Never happened. It's a conspiracy. Iran as it exists today just went away, disappeared, along with 10's of millions?
If they attack Iran, they must use their nukes and do very,very serious damage because they can't handle the push back. Just that simple.
If we are drawn into it(a very bad idea), we must use nukes and finish it. No choice or the consequences will finally break us financially. Then the pundits can argue for days, weeks or decades about what really happened. It's been done before and it worked. Who knows, it could work again?
Hej!
We'll see if this comment gets through the filter?
Can any sentient human see this and not know how to respond and against whom? If so, you're blind. There's only one way to respond to this evil and it very well might involve collateral damage against special people. Where ever their vulnerable!
It's really not that hard in the face of such a motivation, don't you think? And now they are going to do the same thing and worse to a Nation of 80 million people and their going to use us to do it? Yet again.
Hej!
"I am for a peaceful transition in Israel and Palestine."
Get over it because your just 10 days too late and there is no "Rosy Scenario"? Haven't you been listening to Likud? What's left really for the Palestinians and us, other than serious resistance or capitulation? Both paths could end up in the same place. Pick a number.
Intelligence Online is reporting a major shift of Israeli forces from Georgia and Turkey to Azerbaijan with weapons transfers as bribes. It's all aimed at Iran and Russia. Perhaps the Russians will get very nervous? I would be . I think this thing is about to get a lot bigger than any of us imagine. Perhaps, we're about to witness the public emergence of the eighth new major Superpower of 5 million people, no less.
Hej!
What your still pursing is the luxury of past misconceptions of morality, that right and wrong is still possible in this situation? Your ignoring the fact that the power of superior force is always in charge. Israel has always exercised this maxim and now they have to answer for it. Norman is panicked and I'm disappointed.
Likud is taking him and us way beyond anywhere we should go for some time. Why Americans are in this position on this issue is insane, we already did this in October, 1973. The Nixon/Carter disaster is about to go south. There won't be a repeat of 73 hopefully, unless we're totally betrayed by Obama .
Israel is not an American responsibility, never has been. Just one more issue of the one percent and corrupt Demo-Republican politics. The Israelis had their chance with Arafat and the Saudi initiative, but they elected Likud instead and now they have to pay the price. The question is "Are we going with them?"
Hej!
Never mind?
Hej!
It only takes one student that disagrees? Can one be found?
"How in the world would you ever do it." Well, maybe in the Middle of weeks and months of pounding Iran et al. and everything that will come with it worldwide, one morning you wake up and their just gone! Palestinians? Who are you talking about?
No such people. Next question.
"there isn’t a dime’s worth of difference between fleeing the violence of the zionist immigrants and being expelled."
Well, yes there is. Having fled certain situations, I think the people fleeing the Zionist death squads(Menachem Begin, Yitzak Shamir,Ariel Sharon, et. al.) were not prepared to leave the planet, just yet. At least, that was their hope at the time. Difficult decision to lose everything made under great pressure. Not everyone was expelled, many were murdered and just disappeared. Just like Spain, Viet Nam, Iraq and whoever is next.
In the past, I have found it prudent to not debate the issue with a man with a weapon in his hand, unless I was armed and could see some daylight maybe? Not your average Palestinian refugee in the the 40s or refugees in general. Nor mine in certain situations. I don't think Robert has any experience in these matters.
Hej!
link to usnews.com
My, my? I've been thinking for some time that that these guys and their families should get a letter or a link to what their in the middle of? Don't you think?
Hej!
P.S. Any combat veterans posting?
No, it wasn't the turning point, this speech was!
link to youtube.com
He realized that at some point you have to step out and he paid with his life, weeks or months later. All the Democraps, said Martin don't do it, but he did and they proceeded to do in Caesar, yet again.
Obama and the National Democratic party should thank their lucky stars that Martin was removed or Obama would have a huge problem right now.
If you bother with the speech, just substitute Iran or Iraq with Viet-Nam or the Viet Minh. It's the exact same story, isn't it? Corrupt Democrats and now mainstream Demo/Republicans are after the cash.
Once it gets going, there won't be much to comment on!
Hej!
No my dear, Dershowitz is Witty, nothing more. Yes, he should be ignored, but I fear it's just 10 days too late to mention it? Iran is the game changer. If you can assault 80 million people by initiating an unprovoked war of aggression over nothing, what chance will the Palestinians have? Zippo. Forget them.
I can't think of a single scenario of an Israeli/American defeat in the coming days other than an un-managed, unanticipated economic collapse, but that will occur after the deed is done(Their hoping). I think checkmate might be next. Yet another weak, compromised Demo/Republican administration on this subject. Many Germans were hung over far less than this.
Hej!
Well, I guess there's nothing left to talk about? We were bound to come to this point sooner or later.
Hej!
Priceless. Too bad it's not a trailer for a movie! Well there's an idea? Perhaps "Dawn of the Dumb"?
Hej!
Because the weakest EU members( Greece, Portugal and Spain) get to pay the price for it. Bad credit! Actually this is not somewhere I would think Germany would want to go? Merkal just proposed today that Greece relinquish economic sovereignty as a condition of further bailouts(yet another German occupation) and now the Greeks are being told they can also expect to walk away from their only current energy supplier? Captain Roberts rides again.
Hej!
I'm not sure "stupid" is the best adjective?
They really should have gotten someone like Newt to represent them in negotiations for the placement of the ad. I think they could have demanded somewhere North of $502,420 easily and gotten it. Someone competent needs to represent these kids on all the other Campuses where it is to appear. For a reasonable fee, I'm available.
Hej!
Is he related to Sammy Davis Jr? Will we'll next spot him in Hollywood with the current version of the Rat Pack? Hope this comment didn't break any rules?
What was Mahatma Gandhi's position and public statements on the UN recognition of the Zionist enterprise? I'm an American, why have I been involved in this foreign monstrosity for all these decades? We certainly have plenty of our own monstrosities to deal with don't you think?
Hej!
P.S. Do your own homework.
Inquiring minds want to know, where does he like to catch Tunas?
Or us for that matter? Yes you can, but not if it's no longer smart.
In my case yes, but it took a while. Yes, some of us have spent decades reconciling our past with his challenge, in spite of the fact that we were on the other side of the fence at the time. His denunciation of the Viet Nam debacle was political suicide and he was warned. He knew exactly where he was going. Everyone abandoned him and then they killed him. This was not my view at the time, but you should be aware of it, should you get serious.
Hej!
The Soviet peoples called it "Deep Government" and it is the rigor here, now and probably for a long time. Dennis Ross is not an Israeli-Firster, he is an Israeli, an agent of a foreign power. If he was Turkish and wanted to kill Kurds, you wouldn't have any doubts, would you?
Hej!
"a common African currency." backed by 200 to 400 tons of gold reserves. Where do you suppose that ended up? Precious metals traders have been abuzz for some time that thats where the LME got the 200 tons for Chavez which has recently been delivered to several non-western locations. Watch the trade in the next 6 weeks. It's about to get very interesting.
Seafoid, that's why your not a Likud member. Smile. This is about ethnic empire same as the Germans. Of course they'll do it if they need to and the world might do a little hand wringing. They are going to finish the ethnic cleansing they have in mind and establish their borders where they wish and only one thing will stop them. It's not on the horizon. I think you might be under-estimating ethnic ruthlessness? Imagine if the Tutsis had little nukes rather than machetes.
Hej!
Wishful thinking. What do you think the Shia had to do with what happened to the Marines in Beirut in 1983? Why did RR run away? Another myth, like they're going to wipe Israel from the map.
It wasn't the Shia and it wasn't Hezbollah and it wasn't the Pals.
What wold the recent Iranian that was defeated by the current Iranian Prime Minister and is confined to his home have to say about this? What was his job in 1983?
Hej!
Will you define the "Grey area" on the individual banned comments and let us know they never existed from our perspective? If you don't, you run the risk of becoming a mellow "Hasbara site". Irrelevant PC.
In any event, if there's to be a war with Iran, I suspect that there will soon be no Palestinians to worry about? And not to mention, a couple of million(10's) Iranians.
Hej!
P.S. Can't wait to see how this shakes out. Phil had me going there.
So, is this a Goldstone moment? Sucked us in and then drop the Hammer? Sorry Kiddo, but it's a legitimate question.
The Zionist conflict was initiated in the 19th Century. It is totally entwined with the Big Power Politics of everything that has come since. Much of it very sordid. Every day what were facts yesterday are revealed to be questionable or false. It's called the Internet! Somebody is always going to be offended(unless they can turn it all off).
Several times in my comments, I have requested that you include a comment ignore button so any of your visitors can filter the comments of any user they choose, including Witty or me. This would have eliminated the need for this moment.
This capability was not included in the last upgrade of this site. Why not? It ubiquitous on many Web comment boards at this point in time as it allows all viewers of the site to make their own choices. If someone is offended, one click and the offender is gone forever. Users can choose to not be offended, but not to impose their viewpoints on your blog.
Get rid of your monitors/censors and add the comment user filter button. Take a look at Yahoo financial comments. Every other whack job on the planet is paid to move scams forward. That site and others would be unusable without this capability.
Hej!
It's not surprising that others would disagree. We shall see in the the weeks and months ahead until November. Perhaps this model you support is no longer relevant in Palestein and you just don't realize it, yet? I do not think that Palestinians should take on their own governments, militias or anyone else in the Islamic world for your comfort.
They recognize their reality, know who the enemy is and should act accordingly. Gandhi was last relevant maybe during Olmert and before that, the bone breaker, Yitzak Rabin, but he and that is gone forever. Gandhi's tactics worked with the most civilized, tired British(the IRA and Stern Gang helped) and had he been involved in Palestein, it would have been solved by his own statements. But that was then and this is now. Americans should not be involved.
Hej!
P.S. The problem is here.
You think we have 4 years? Love to hear more about that theory. Perhaps I could retire. The Demo/Republican printing press is just trying to get to the election before the sheep realize how badly they've been sheared and the XXXX hits the fan. Yes, there will be Federal troops on the the street, first time since the 1860 Civil War. Perhaps you'll send them an email?
Hej!
I guess the question is, "Who's the gator"? Persia's been there a long, long time. America not so long.
"medieval people"! If it wasn't so terribly sad, I would literally die of laughter. Which doesn't seem like a particularly bad way to go, but.
"The land swap option will still be viable 5, 10 and 50 years from now". 5, 10 and 50 months is probably a better planning basis, but the 2 state solution is probably long gone. Make sure you have a ticket for a helicopter ride off the Embassy roof or be prepared to face the steel. Just kidding, your a talker. No steel for you as long as you have said ticket.
Maybe everybody is Israel's greatest threat? Certainly simplify's things. Perhaps Herr Bibi should cut to the chase?
Hej!
"P.S. On the Jewish identity front, Koppel is married to a Catholic and has written that he has four Catholic children. His son-in-law Ken Pollack, now head of the Saban Center at the Brookings Institution, helped pave the way to the Iraq war. "
So this is not an ethnic thing? Just fear of power? Criticism from his delusional Son in Law? Fair question. Ted Koppel's has contributed on many issues over the years. What's going on here? It's really so simple as selling out? It's terrible to get older and find out you were a fool?
Hej!
"By the way, he goes to a better than thou iron gates private school, argueably the most prestigious in Pittsburgh. ...".
Well. there's a Libertarian school voucher argument if I ever heard one? Could it be that simple?
Hej!
P.S. I hope He's safe.
So is this guy is Britain's version of "Rip Van Winkle"? He's been asleep for some time apparently. Does anybody care at this point? What's right around the corner, yet again?
Hej!
"the long tail with a tale of hope.", The author understands a situation without hope. It's about not giving up, not withstanding. You might get lucky or not, but at least you get a "tale". It appears Whizdom has never experienced a situation without hope and survived, if not songs of death, then what?
Hej!
A similar young American made controversial statements on the Phil Donahue show decades ago. Last I heard, David Cole was hiding from a Jewish Defense League contract on his life. I don't think he was murdered like others, he just disappeared and more importantly, shut up?
Hej!
Truly a good German, Klansman and so on! You're all patriots. If you live long enough you will find where quite a few of us ended up. It's not like nobody gave you a heads up!
Say Hej! when you arrive.
"I particularly value my own experience." Sort of answers all of the questions one might have Richard? Perhaps you should listen to what Phil is saying to you?
Be patient. Things change, especially the awful ones it would seem.
Hej!
You left out you were never even slapped by your mommy or anyone else apparently(or maybe you'd know better, I'd hope), let alone advance on a reinforced position at night, killing every other stranger you came across as you flank them. You just advocate these experiences for others who have no choice when they have to clean up your juvenile mess.
You forgot to mention this Shingo!
Sounds like the "Borg"? Maybe this is where the storyline came from?
Hej!
Does this guy have more video interviews? Perhaps he needs a show?
Hej!
P.S. I'd appreciate it Adam, if you would just delete my comments when you deem them to have no value as opposed to linking them to totally unrelated articles. If it's too hot in the editorial kitchen, get a user enabled delete button. Then you're no longer responsible for the comments as everyone can filter anyone they don't want to hear from. Then you will have time to go get a job!