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What is there to derail?
Americans who are terribly outraged about Israeli human rights violations should look closer to home first.
Is America's existence in its current form based on righteousness?
Hamas could accept Israel's permanence and renounce terrorism and violence and its suicide bomb rap sheet, but of course no one expects that. And so the Israelis and many others will continue to regard Hamas as an overmighty terrorist outfit, and the people of Gaza will suffer for it.
sammy seemed to be saying that the "we're both Jews" aspect of this exchange between Waxman and Winograd is inherently un-American.
Jews were more consistently opposed to the Iraq War than any other religious group btw.
The belief that Israel is as entitled as any country to exist, to perpetuate its culture/religion by design, and to protect that existence, does not entail belief in a "pure" anything. Pro-Israel Jews are hardly the only ethnics in America with defensive or protective sentiments about an ancestral country.
Are you as concerned when African Americans or Chinese Americans or Mexican Americans or whatever talk about themselves as such, or as a "community"? (as they frequently and naturally do)
Or is being a Jew is particularly incompatible with being American? right.
Of course the blockade of Gaza is an act of war -- i.e. an act in a war. Hamas is at war with Israel, and vice versa.
Every country has an implicit right to exist. I think the world reached a consensus that the status quo of extant nations is a lesser evil than starting over afresh.
Why must Israel be a fair and just liberal society in order to justify its present existence as a sovereign state? Even though the majority of countries, let alone countries in permanent semi-war zones, muddle through with plenty of arbitrary unfairness, oppression, social inequality and whatever other immoral problems without the larger world giving a damn generally.