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  • The enemies list
  • How many Israeli civilians have been attacked from the Gaza tunnels? Any?
    • The Israeli spokesmen have snuck this point in at every opportunity. The other day I heard Regev trill about how Israel had to stop ‘Khamas death squads’ coming out of ‘terror tunnels' to attack Israeli kindergarten kids.

      The language is so manufactured and manipulated; death squads, terror tunnels, kindergarten, you have to imagine copywriters sitting in a room dreaming up this cant.

      In fact if you listen carefully, you can hear Israeli sound bites mutate over time to the one that is finally settled on. And then all will echo it from the English speaking Israeli salesmen to the supine US media who just always seems to fall in behind in their role as lazy good for nothing cheerleaders.

  • What I said to the couple holding a banner with a swastika on it
  • The withdrawal that isn't
    • The Israeli line is that they were going after two guys on a motorbike that happened to be passing in front of the UN school. They got them but unfortunately, they inadvertently hit those other Palestinians outside the school. This morning I watched the very sad Australian, Mark Regev and his equally sad English IDF counterpart, Peter Lerner and some other extremely despondent English speaking South African - or maybe Australian – whose name I didn’t catch, but who had similar gloomy features to the other two and a comparable sorrowful tone bleat that story.

      The speed of the Israeli response, the message disciple, the uniformity of the language their melancholic spokesmen use, remind me very much of a well oiled US election campaign. Brand Israel certainly knows what will sell in America.

      Just caught David Gregory interview Ron Dermer. Gregory is an Israeli cheerleader and nearly as big an arsehole as Dermer. He allows him to lie like a sack. Would love to see Dermer interviewed by a real journalist like Jon Snow or Jeremy Paxman

  • Claim that Hamas killed 3 teens is turning out to be the WMD of Gaza onslaught
    • It might have to do with ethnic origin viz native Hebrew speakers but not fluent English ones. Members of Congress who are at it now and the usual pro Israel talking heads and media folk on the MSM who put the k in, do it by design, or edict. I've long suspected it’s a Frank Luntz idea. Kkhamas sounds more sinister than Hamas. And while Hebrew speakers might pronounce it with a k, there is noting Hebrew about the Brits and Australians that the Israelis wheel out as their PR defenders on US media. And speaking of Ali Abunimah and JJ Goldberg, Abunimah absolutely eviscerated Goldberg.

  • Israeli forces kill 3 during Gaza solidarity march in West Bank village of Beit Ummar (Updated)
  • NBC reverses; Mohyeldin to return to Gaza to cover 'Palestinian side of story'
    • While I think this is good news I also think it was very clever news management. Seems to me that this whole Mohyeldin story was part two of a frantic public relations effort to manage the media disaster that the shelling and killing of those four young kids on the beach had caused. Forgive me for being so cynical but the Israelis know that the only audience they really have to worry about is the US one and that the US is easy to move as the Netanyahu arsehole was once famously caught boasting. We all know that the modern US news cycle is fleeting with John and Jane Doe being normally more interested in the Kardishians or Honey Booboo than world affairs. Fours boys being butchered on a beach in full view of the world media had to have a quick response. Part one was the Israeli’s announcing their ‘humanitarian” ceasefire. This managed to knock the story off the headlines and to further keep it off NBC pulled Mohyeldin, who then became the story rather than his report. We are three news cycles or so away from the poor boys being slaughtered and while this NBC reversal is good news, it will now buy a fourth. Job done. The usual sad faced Israeli massacre apologists have been wheeled out with their soft toned earnest declarations that Israel would never ever, perish the thought deliberately target anything other than a therrorist, or his therrorist weapon or his therroristic infrastructure including his house, his bike, his hat and how utterly devastated every man woman and child in Israel is about this horrible incident and how Israel has opened an investigation into this therrible therrible accident and oh by the way it’s all the fault of Khamas anyway because they hide behind children and they started it and they haven’t built any shelters like we have. Now we will have discussions of how fair and balanced the American media is and how daring NBC are that they are actually allowing an Arab to report from Gaza.

  • What would you do?
  • Jet Blue incident shifts from anti-Semitic story to anti-Palestinian one
    • That is very true. Wonder if this had happened on an El Al flight which of the two would have been marched off. Good for Jet Blue.

  • Video: Diane Sawyer misrepresents photo of Gazans in aftermath of Israeli bombing as Israeli victims of Palestinian missiles (Updated)
    • Mistakes of this sort – mislabeling and the like happen in a newsroom – but way too often in US ones, when it comes to Israel and how Palestinians are depicted. I’d say it’s probably in direct proportion to the amount of ziocaine the producers and staff imbibe.

  • Caught in a lie: E-mails prove right-wing pro-Israel donor Adam Milstein gave money to California student candidates
  • Israeli police and media collude to marginalize coverage of Muhammad Abu Khudair's murder
  • 'A Painful Price': The escalating war on Palestine solidarity at U of Michigan and beyond
    • Surely there is some computer whiz kid that can figure out who is behind, ZPC Viper Matrix. It sounds like a type of trojan that allowed it to get SAFE peoples details. Would have to think that this behavior - and that of its creator
      is criminal.

  • 'NYT Book Review' owes readers an apology for printing blatant racism about Palestinians
  • 'Economist' pulls cartoon showing Obama shackled to Congress bearing Star of David
    • Have to believe that the Economist might have well expected a response. The cartoon appeared in the print edition that hit the newsstands last Friday and subscribers’ mailboxes in the last few days. You can still buy it from a newsagent. They haven’t recalled the magazine – the cartoon has just been replaced on the web edition. If anything Foxman has drawn more attention to the cartoon.

  • 'Scarlett letter' -- Social media pillory Johansson for representing settlement business SodaStream
    • Gulag, I bet these jealous gits don’t know that SodaStream and Ahava are mentioned in the bible, seven hundred and two times. Each.

  • Kerry (and NYT) carry water for Netanyahu on 'Jewish state' demand
    • My read when you wrote the following

      …. because Nationalists drew their support from the Catholic community which according to this poll, wants to remain part of the United Kingdom link to belfasttelegraph.co.uk This was always the case, ….

      is that you absolutely implied the Catholic community always wanted to be part of the UK. Forgive me if I am wrong.

      But that as it may you are now mixing apples and oranges (no pun) in your latest post. The nationalist parties boycotted the 1973 border poll because it was a stunt with a pre ordained outcome by virtue of the questions asked in the referendum not to mind the breakdown of the electorate. The 1998 referendum in the Irish Republic was an overwhelming display of support from that electorate for the Good Friday agreement and a clear signal to their somewhat paranoid Unionist brethren that the irredentist dreams of the 1937 Irish constitution were no more.

      And incidentally articles 2 & 3 were not removed but rather reworded. For the record.

      1937

      Article 2

      'The national territory consists of the whole island of Ireland, its islands and the territorial seas.'

      Article 3

      'Pending the re-integration of the national territory, and without prejudice to the right of the parliament and government established by this constitution to exercise jurisdiction over the whole territory, the laws enacted by the parliament shall have the like area and extent of application as the laws of Saorstat Éireann and the like extra-territorial effect.'

      1937 Amended 1998

      Article 2

      'It is the entitlement and birthright of every person born in the island of Ireland, which includes its islands and seas, to be part of the Irish Nation. That is also the entitlement of all persons otherwise qualified in accordance with law to be citizens of Ireland. Furthermore, the Irish nation cherishes its special affinity with people of Irish ancestry living abroad who share its cultural identity and heritage.'

      Article 3

      1. It is the firm will of the Irish Nation, in harmony and friendship, to unite all the people who share the territory of the island of Ireland, in all the diversity of their identities and traditions, recognising that a united Ireland shall be brought about only by peaceful means with the consent of a majority of the people, democratically expressed, in both jurisdictions in the island. Until then, the laws enacted by the Parliament established by this Constitution shall have the like area and extent of application as the laws enacted by the Parliament that existed immediately before the coming into operation of this Constitution.

      2. Institutions with executive powers and functions that are shared between those jurisdictions may be established by their respective responsible authorities for stated purposes and may exercise powers and functions in respect of all or any part of the island.

      The idea of a grand reshaping of the island of Ireland through forced political unification has been a dead letter for a long time. In fact to all intents and purposes there already is unity under the European Union. The hard men are in office now and what is left is the haggling over the smaller more emotional symbols such as who gets to fly their flag and sing their songs, when and where.

      This isn’t really the forum to educate you Harry, but please, your comparison between Ireland and Israel, has the parties badly mixed up. The Unionists in Northern Ireland are much more settler (planter) in their history and orientation rather than the indigenous Nationalist natives who have a certain Palestinian aura about them

    • Actually Harry it most certainly wasn't the case that the catholic community in Northern Ireland always wanted to remain part of the United Kingdom. Far from it.

  • Netanyahu tweets red-telephone picture, to show how happy he is with Kerry
  • United States takes a 'new path' forward in the Middle East!
    • Ah bollocks, so close, great game. Next time maybe, Ireland are getting closer all the time. If only Sexton hadn't missed that penalty. Nigel Owens is such a drama queen.

  • Natalie Portman and Woody Allen see anti-Semitism as pervasive
    • Funny thing - while Portman no doubt has an Israeli passport - her American one cannot say she was born in Israel - as the US does not recognize Israeli sovereignty over Jerusalem. Imagine that.

  • AIPAC's 'unlimited' funds are greatest obstacle to peace, former British foreign sec'y says
  • Yeshiva U panel concludes Israel and Jews face destruction from: Iran, assimilation and occupation critics
  • 'WSJ' books editor says he's thrown out Blumenthal book on Israel
  • It’s time to put an end to Israel’s ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ nuclear policy
    • Norman, if memory serves me didn’t Moshe Dayan want to use Nuclear weapons in 1973 and wasn’t there some right wing lunatic ministers urging a nuclear response to the Iraqi scud missiles in 1991?

      Perhaps English is not your first language and be that as it may, but only in the madness of militant Zionism could your oxymoronic proposal that Israel establish a first use nuclear retaliation be considered anything other than psychopathic .

  • Egypt's continuing revolution makes a mockery of Huntington's 'clash of civilizations'
    • Hamas will be fine. You need not worry. They have survived losing patronage before. I'm thinking of one of their early backers, a very violent sectarian 'democracy' you're so proud of.

  • Sen. Boxer is on the defensive over legislation OK-ing Israeli discrimination against Arab-Americans
  • The hunger of Samer Issawi-- and Bobby Sands
    • Seafoid, yes I agree, so much of the violence was just tribal savagery. I suppose war weariness allowed both sides to be seen to be fought to a draw as it were. My view is that it was after the IRA went ‘economic’ with spectaculars like, Bishopsgate and the Baltic bombs - which nearly bankrupted Lloyds after all - that the ruling class got serious about ending it. The British and Irish governments earnest peace negotiations towards the end was more of a kabuki show. The real game changer and the man who brought the IRA in from the cold was Clinton - when he granted Adams a visa to come to the US and get the Irish American hardliners onside. Life on the run is a young mans game - limo’s, Gucci loafers and white house visits have a more mature middle-aged appeal.

    • Harry, the British argument was that the IRA was a bunch of thugs, mindless godfathers of violence without support in their community. The hunger strikes and their political aftermath put paid to this. Not sure about the 10% you cite - I would say it was closer to a figure of 15 or 16% (about the same in percentage terms of the nationalist population who lined the route of Bobby Sands funeral). Given that that support could only come from the nationalist community it equated to more like 40% of their community backing the hard men. I am no IRA apologist by the way - always found them much too fascist and while we could spend all day debating the size of their mandate, my view is that the Libyan weaponry they received in the 80’s and the leadership decision (read Adams) to take their fight to English economic targets on the mainland causing enormous damage to the UK economy, is what ended things. There had been backdoor channels between the British government and the IRA but at any time Britain could have crushed the IRA. It is to their credit that as a liberal democracy they never really had the stomach to suspend civil liberties to the extent this would have entailed. This is the area that deserves comparative studies between the two situations and indeed how the British army dealt with trouble compared to how the IDF does today. Bad and all as the British army behaved from time to time in Northern Ireland compared to the purity of the IDF they were perfect gentlemen.

    • Harry, with respect – your history here is a bit sketchy. Bobby Sands died because Margret Thatcher and her conservative government refused to grant the IRA prisoners’ five demands;

      1. The right not to wear a prison uniform;
      2. The right not to do prison work;
      3. The right of free association with other prisoners, and to organize educational and recreational pursuits;
      4. The right to one visit, one letter and one parcel per week;
      5. Full restoration of remission lost through the protest

      The hunger strike he died on was the second in twelve months – the earlier one having been called off in October 1980 - after 53 days - when those striking had been tricked into believing that their protest demands had been met.

      Trouble started in 1976 where Britain began phasing out a Special Category Status (this having been granted to IRA prisoners following a mass IRA prison hunger strike in 1972) to introduce a new “criminalization” policy, whereby IRA prisoners would now be treated, as ordinary criminals who would be required to wear prison uniforms and perform prison work.

      The protest began when, under the changed status, an incoming new prisoner refused to don his prison uniform. He was instead given a blanket and thus began the blanket protest, which over the next five years became increasingly bitter as both sides refused to budge. The prisoner’s ultimate weapon to press their claim was a hunger strike, which incidentally the IRA leadership on the outside initially opposed.

      The rest is unfortunate history but let’s not forget that two of the ten hunger strikers that died, were elected to the UK and Irish parliament during their hunger strikes. Bobby Sands to Westminster and Kieran Doherty to the Dail, more or less making their claim that they were political prisoners.

      As regards your mention of the 1973 border poll that gave a 98.9% result in favor of remaining to stay in the UK. The nationalist community in Northern Ireland boycotted this poll en mass, some 41.34% of the voting population. So the 98.9% number is meaningless and it was the SDLP party who urged the boycott not Sinn Fein who were not a political factor in 1973.

      In fact, the success of the hunger striker candidates and their backers in parliamentary by- elections and assembly elections that followed the 1980/81 strikes, demonstrated to the constitutional element of the IRA - and the wider world - that the IRA had substantial political support in the catholic community.

  • On US television, Zuckerman, Ross and Remnick all refer to Israeli prime minister as 'Bibi' on first reference
  • Israel and the nomination of Chuck Hagel
    • Joyce

      Dublin, June 16 1904

      But begob I was just lowering the heel of the pint when I saw the citizen getting up to waddle to the door, puffing and blowing with the dropsy and he cursing the curse of Cromwell on him, bell, book and candle in Irish, spitting and spatting out of him and Joe and little Alf round him like a leprechaun trying to peacify him.

      -- Let me alone, says he.

      And begob he got as far as the door and they holding him and he bawls out of him:

      -- Three cheers for Israel!

      Arrah, sit down on the parliamentary side of your arse for Christ' sake and don't be making a public exhibition of yourself. Jesus, there's always some bloody clown or other kicking up a bloody murder about bloody nothing. Gob, it'd turn the porter sour in your guts, so it would.

      And all the ragamuffins and sluts of the nation round the door and Martin telling the jarvey to drive ahead and the citizen bawling and Alf and Joe at him to whisht and he on his high horse about the jews and the loafers calling for a speech and Jack Power trying to get him to sit down on the car and hold his bloody jaw and a loafer with a patch over his eye starts singing If the man in the moon was a jew, jew, jew and a slut shouts out of her:

      -- Eh, mister! Your fly is open, mister!

      And says he:

      -- Mendelssohn was a jew and Karl Marx and Mercadante and Spinoza. And the Saviour was a jew and his father was a jew. Your God.

      -- He had no father, says Martin. That'll do now. Drive ahead.

      -- Whose God? says the citizen.

      -- Well, his uncle was a jew, says he. Your God was a jew. Christ was a jew like me.

      Gob, the citizen made a plunge back into the shop.

      -- By Jesus, says he, I'Il brain that bloody jewman for using the holy name. By Jesus, I'll crucify him so I will. Give us that biscuitbox here.

      -- Stop! Stop! says Joe.

  • On '60,' Stahl says Spielberg experienced 'serious anti-Semitic attacks'
    • Woody you make a very good point. I would agree the Soviet Union won the war in Europe with the US and British provided some very helpful assistance. Just looking at the casualty numbers gives a good idea of who did more of the fighting. And on that score I’ve often wondered how many Soviet Red Army casualties were Muslim, given the number of Soviet republics that had Muslim populations. And where you to combine this number with Muslin casualties in the British and French armies, I wouldn’t be surprised if more Muslims died fighting Hitler than Americans.

  • IHT's unkind, inaccurate cut: ‘Germany making Jews feel unwelcome’
    • “A man who is not circumcised cannot understand the context of the Bible.”

      One could look at that another way Elisabeth. All humanity is born predisposed to understand the bile, but only one half, the one that thinks through their appendage, needs a tweak to fully understand its context.

  • Romney brags he's got Netanyahu's campaign consultants (and he'll shoot you before telling their secrets)
  • AP reported anti-Islam film that sparked protests was made to help Israel, but questions surround producer of the film
    • This from an editorial in today’s NY Post - ever a trustworthy source of disinformation.

      ... The movie reportedly was produced by Coptic-Christian ex-pats and Koran-burning pastor Terry Jones — who’s nuts. ...

  • Video: Israeli youths violently detain Palestinian under eyes of soldiers
  • Paul Ryan said to be meeting with Adelson
  • Savage Geller bus ad hits San Francisco Muni
    • Kathleen, I think these ads are despicable. But my view is that they lay a fiendishly clever trap. Geller is trying to provoke a reaction. She knows the counter argument is of course, that Muslims or Palestinians - or opponents of Israel - are not savages. That they are not is debate as it were, on her terms (literally and figuratively), and as Chris Matthews tells us, if you’re explaining to the American people, you’re losing.

      Ignore her feint and answer her with ridicule. Neanderthals like the ones in the old Geico ad campaign could be used. If I remember right they were always upset about being called savage. There are plenty on this site - I’m thinking Mooser – with the ability to write good witty copy.

  • Trapped
    • Wasn’t putting it up to you at all, Denis. Just thought there might be an outside chance you’d qualify. Quite a few of my American friends in New York have availed of this right to Irish (and EU) citizenship; some to avoid the need of a work permit when offered positions in EU countries, others to avoid the non-EU line at European immigration entry points.

      Interestingly enough, Mossad obviously see the benefits of an Irish passport. In 2010, five of their team that murdered Mahmoud al-Mabhouh, travelled in and out of Dubai on (stolen) Irish passports.

    • Hate to be pedestrian Denis, but your right of return analogy is somewhat flawed. It would not be up to the UK, to pass a law saying that as a descendant of Ireland you would have a right of return to Ireland, as this is a right only an Irish government could possibly bestow.

      And as a matter of fact Ireland does offer a right of return of sorts. Perhaps you are eligible. The requirement is simple; if one of your four grandparents were born on the island of Ireland, as their grandchild, you have a right to Irish citizenship.

      Happily this comes without the need to make aliyah to Ireland or the need to relinquish US citizenship.

      http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/irish_citizenship/irish_citizenship_through_birth_or_descent.html

  • UNESCO votes to admit Palestine as a full member

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