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OMG! Why I don"t have that Stockholm Syndrome yet! How long do I have to feign that I have it.
Spain has been allowing ( under pressure) any descendants of the victims of inquisition to settle in Spain . Germany has been allowing Jews descendants of Holocaust to return from eastern Europe and former USSR to settle and claim citizenship while ignoring same to the children of the legal immigrants from 3rd World countries. It is same Israel that make laws here in US also make laws for Europe only in opposite direction contradicting itself.
So its not the stroke .He was making things up before that happened to him.
With these kind of flagrant lies one only can avoid scrutiny by the media by doing what Truman, Johnson,Scoop Jackson, Reagan,Bush 2 have done i.e : by prostrating to the most odious demands of Jewish power.
Israel does not want to help the Palestinian refugees and does not want any one does either. interesting! At least Hitler thought that some other countries could help the Jewish people if they wanted
1- Obama fears more than Iran does of an Isarli attack .
That is an interesting position.Miller could be direct and could have said that Iran should listen to the fear mongering of Israel as Obama is doing and Iran should give in to the corrupt aggressive armtwisting , tactices of Israel achieved by financial position of jews in the right places across the Europe,US,Canada and Australia.
One wonders why Obama is doing.Not out of love of Iranain or environmental disaster or for economy.
Why does someone has to take sides here? Two thugs and incorrigible liars are trying to gain power and position back or stay away from future prison. One of them is exposing other for a better deal.Its not new .thats what plea deal looks like, thats what happen one snitches on another partner in crimes to get a better deal in the court.
Go and read the Guardian expose on whole shenangans known as I-P peace process. Its crap and B*S* made in Israel to stall and stall. and grab and grab.
I can see and feel your love for the gay. When the Palestinina gay comes to your home in Tel Aviv, please house him, feed him, give him job( or ask the worried Israelis to do so ) and declare that in Israel he has all the rights as a human being and he will not be handed to Hamsa or Iranain or PA even if he dieceds not to support the policies of Israel on Gaza/Iran/Lebanon or West Bank. Also tell the militray and the Shin Bet and IDF not to out those Paklestinian LGBT to their family or PA police or anybody even if they raise anti Israel slogan or write in blogs against occupation. Do that for your love. Just dont talk the talk like Israel is doing for peace , talking the talk and ousting the indigenous from their homes and Olive ground.
The people who matter in shaping Israeli policy to Arabs/Irans have heard him .Read the first 120 pages of the book by him on Inquistion, you come out livid . The guy unknowingly ( or knowingly but in that case it would be an example of audiacity,arrogance,and entitlement) comes out justifying the validity of the reasons of the existence of antisemtism from its inception in Egypt ( according to this erudite scholar where it all began in the Egyptian Elephant Point )
" But the fact is that Israel is surrounded by nations that want to wipe it out. " Which country has reecnetly siad that they wanted to wipe Israel off? How long this lie will be used to generate war against nations by Israel? How long this lie will be used to milk American tax dollars?
Removing could be construed as "wiping out" as Israel has been removing with inducemnets, flase buying,and forcibly removing with guns and bullets the original inhabitants of Palestine . Fredblogs has uncovered the inner workings of israeli mind. I am sure Ahmednezad has asked or demanded that Europe should take the Israeli back . Again in line with this thinking exposing the symmetry of projection and the desire , Fredblogs might add that all Israel wanted and still want is Palestine to disappear to rest of Arab lands or more pointedly " Arab should atke them back" menawhile the wiping out by forced dieting ,cutting electricty off, denying access to sea or plain waging Operatin Cast lead willl be seen as an honest attempt to implemnet that divine dream and shjould not be raised to human consiousness as that would be antisemitism.
Dan Meridor is equally right to see the symmetry between the reality of the history and his projection to AHMEDNEZAD OF" basically ideologically, religiously " based threat as the religion -inspired demand for Israel from 1889 received idelogical support from leftist, communist,and later on from Evangelicals which assumed some one had to be removed to make room for the ideology and the religion to take root.
Does it matter what the Zionist says on the authenticity on the letter when Ben Guiron was known as a sharp liar ,anti Arab who used different dirty tricks depending on the nature of audiences and contexts from Paris Confernce 1919 all the way until his death and who still inspire liars like barak, Sharaon ( part dead) , Peres , Nethanyoo, and scores of Israeli academics,cabinet members,ambassadors to use different "languages" depending on the listeners and the venues with the sole purpose of gaining more arms, free money and free lands with the masterful use of "languages" whether from Germany or from US or from Arab? Time has come to move from attempt of ascribing plausibility of humanity to these souls. they are not.They are monsters.
" As we have made clear, this is not a subject we want any part of. It generally leads to anti-semitism and Holocaust denial,"
I dont agree but I support your decision.
Did not Bibi say something of similar nature during the anti-communist Chinese demonstration in 1990? He siad that Israel should have used the wolrd's preoccupatiwith China to gobble up more palestinian and Lebanese territory.
Why the heck do they go to Synagogue to hear this when they can do same sitting at home in front TV or drinking green tea at local resturant with a few other folks in front of permanently on FOX networks
It does not take much to carry out the dreams of the "a few dozen supporters" with background networks of coordinated military,police,diplomatic,and fiancial supports. Libya is the most recent example.
Mr Green
The America that does not support an war against Iran ,according to current poll, I am talking about that America. An America that now believes that Iraq war was not worth ,that what I am referring to.Given more information I will see a more robust moral clarity and acceptance of responsibilty for the destruction wrought on that country over 12 yeras by US. The America that: has asked for apology for the Syphilis experiment , that has promoted M.L King and honored Rosa Park, has developed a transition in the mind -set making possible for majority of America could voting for Obama , has eventually stoppped supporting Apartheid in S Africa , that one I am referring to. The same America also booed the returning soldiers from Vietnam and forced Lyndon Johnson not to seek reelection, that America I am referring to.
Loyalty to another deity could have prevented those developments.
In an ideal world, the ideal citizen of any country will oppose any destructive,premptive,agreesive crossborder activities at any level. Thats not going to happen.War stops eventually when one party gives up and a new equilibrium follows or exhaustion sets in for both. In that equilbrium the roles are defined and mainatined .Within the border,native American accecpt certain limitations and outside the border Indian( Pakistanis ,bangladeshis) accecpt the losses and start adjusting to new realities. That equilibrium also allow for eventual rebellion,freedom movement for Indian subcontinet and for emancipation of Native American and Afro American . Two parties fight and sign peace with thier interest in mind with the social and political reality in the back of their mind.
But when you have another extraterritorial interest ,the name of the game is not same any more. One needs a new word to define the absurditiy of the dangerousness ,illogicality,and entire endeavor undertaken under pressure ( bribery,accusation of appeasement and antisemtism and suppression of facts )on behalf of another country . Here lies the concept of fifht column and firster. That is an apt description when the interst of the fighting countries do not shape the behavior of those provoking the confrontation.
It was the self interest that prompted US to mend relations with Vietnam. The same geopolital interest but much more urgent and obvious shoudl have prompted US long ago to change the equation between it and Iran. The equilibrium brought by new development forced Iarn to offer almost uncoditional capitualtion in Bush jr ist term. The new reality also forced Iran to accept the Obam offers at Turkey-Brazil-Iran negotiations . An America with its own interest in mind would have accecpted that triumphal moment and would have clebrated it leading to new asseretive and positive influences in ME. No ! that cant be allowed. For there is the interest of another country riding on the back who cant define its interest other than as an open hegemony .
The succeess of the Israeli firster in recruiting the help from so many other sources within the country shows the extent of the corrupting of the system.It does not confer legitimacy on Israeli firster.
It is always one degree above when one commits crime for someone else's gain at a cost to self interest than when one commits same for his own gain.It is worse when that activities are undertaken under the influences of myriad labirynthine corrupting process.
Mr Green
US has engaged over the years in numerous conflicts that have compromised its values,hurt other countries, destroyed Ameriucan standings ,and hurt its ecnomies.But America also has come to accecpt the facts that its actions with regard to Blacks, Native Americans,Phillipines,Cuba,Central America and Vietnam have been nothing short of unprovoked war crimes of enormous destructive unjust nature. Media more or less accecpt this fact .So will the leaders of both parties .They even if had different views ,wont dare to express so in public. None celebrates these orgies in US school or colleges. Chucrh dont condone anymore these past practices.
Unfortunately an invsisble diffuse poweful force prevents US to self examine its behaviors same way when Middle East gets involved. Same force also gets all shook up at the accustaion of dual loyalty.
Israel like Pakistan Saudi Arab,Turkey,and Indonesia or Colombia have supported American egregius behaviors.But like those nations Israel never suffered in the process unless we include the non-response against Iraqi missile in 1991. It could be proven that Israel have actually benefitted from those joint-operation.
Author writes"Jews have historically been haunted by accusations of disloyalty,.."
One day this episode between Block /Goldberg/Ackerman and CAP writers will be added to that hackneyed theme to deny similar reality in future confrontation bewteen Israel and any other nation where success of Israeli intransigence and offenses would again depend on sacrificing US interest.
One can predict with certainty if Iarn war went bad for US, Isarel would be the first of claiming that they never beleived that Iran was an existential threat and would refer to the Mossad chief or IDF general and even quote Barak .They even may cite that like the majority American ,the majority Israeli did not support war and that a democratic norm was violated by US by attacking Iran . (Only 17 % American and 43 % Israeli support war aginst Iran , a new poll )
The" big but" was for the fact that like neocons here in US,Israeli leaders knew that Saddam was a dead corpse from 12 years of increasing sanctions and from 1991 war which Israeli Foreign Minister threatened if not executed Israel would attcak ( FM Levy was quoted in NY Times then in 1990 ) Iraq.( AIPAC took credit then again but reminding that would be unacceptable). Once Israel knew that the US can lo longer back down from threat of attack on Iraq, it took a disinterested stance to hide its decade old effort to destroy Iraqi society and balkanize the counry
. "But " of Goldeberg hides the quintessential Israeli plan of balkanizing which became a reality , again Israel and neocons knew it and they hid that reality by talking up the possibility of "cakewalk" or ' 20 dollar oil" or Middle east democracy" and "welcomed with flowers" or "Saddam ginning up nuke production".
iamuglow say"“All we care about is being good Zionists, being good citizens of Israel, because even though I am not Israeli born, Israel is in my heart,” he said toward the end of his talk."
But you know you are not allowed to distill it and express it succintly in word like "israeli-firster".It is an interesting tactics that work very well for attention deficit American who has penchant for one liner. An Americans will not remeber the details .Adelson can describe all his fealty and Anti US activities in gruesome details but his tribe and beneficiaries will not allow it to be described in one word .Allowing that will generate mass consciousnes. The market has long been cornered by the Zionist who in turn sees evry activities on the part of the people questioning Israeli activitis as Antisemitism which then kindle the visceral fear and hatred among the people who cherish a greater Israel having authorities to intervene in the affairs of any of its neighbours , demnad money and arms from the West to carry that out anytime it wants , keep on building settlemnts,and asks to be recognized as an honest broker in peace process dedicated to peace in ME .
Its the racism that can explain why the Red state/Republican/Rightingers on airwaves hate Obama .He has done and increased the scope of everything that Bush did and done "better".
Isarel has helped US in Africa,Latin America, and ME. Other countries have also. Turkey and jordan losta lot economically by supporting Gulf Wars. Saudi Arbai bankrolled it. Pakistan has helped USA from 1980s.So has Egypt and Indonesia to name a few. Pakistan has paid the ultimate price:i.e its potential dissolution.But one striking differences between Israel and the rest is that when Isreali interest is at stake ,even in a situation where American interest will be hurt, it is the Israeli economic,political.and military interests that will be protected by US through its Congress /Senate and the media.
"i think most americans, the majority i assume who personally have jewish acquaintances, will not judge every jew as if they run in a pack.”
They never run in a pack. None does. But in case of Israel (including the period when it was cooking in the brain of Herzl and Jabotinsky to 1948 ) it was always same rabid pack who wont contemplate any alternative to lies,deceit,illegal activities,preemptive wars,and manipulation of its powerful "friends" , only and always has come out on the top.
Mr Witty
What argument did you make back then ?
You know Mr Witty how your neighbours who argued against the war were asked to "Love it or leave it" and was denounced by the the neocons as traitors and appeaser like that Navile Chaimberlin?
Hitchens wrote the forword of the book "Open Secrets Israeli Nuclear and Foreign Policies" by Israel Shahak.
Did he offer his mea culpa to that regime by signing on to its heinous agneda on Iraq?
Your "daily intentional presence and accountability" will always be appreciated by someone like Hitchens who mainatined an impressive presence in the intellectual zone of ethnic cleansing but did nothing.
Hopefully , one of these days Kampeas will provode us with the dates , the names and the offices of The Kurdish people who and when they came to feed OSP, came to FOX and NYT and Right Wing Radios to cheer up the somnolent crowd into war frenzy against Iraq befeore 911 and after. Did they also ring up Mr Wesley Clarke immidiately after 911 while he was talking on CNN trying to make him blame that Iraq was responisble? Did any Kurdish leader put pressure that Saddam need to be removed . Mr K alternatively can provide the names of the persons and of the agencies that promoted the case of the Kurds and Sunnis.
These same media also ignored conveniently the evidences of Iraq not being a threat or not having any WMD. ( This raises the question if I am planning to destroy somebody for a reason X which I know does not exist, then what is my reason to fight him and to destroy him. )This is again akin to situation to Iran.Media knows Iran does not have a programme that is a threat to US or Israel. But it drums up the same rhetoric . The result is a country that suffers other than Iran is US from lack of buisness. So why do they do it? Pletak of AEI has aparently spilled the bean. An Irainan state free of sanctions with the potential to build a bomb anytime ( Like Japan, South Korea, Brazil ) they want, will end th hegemony of Israel. It wont curtail any power of US.
Is it for the democracy? Is it for the Azeris or for the Sunnis? If that is the case ( its better to have this confusion sorted out now , so that we know when the dust settles after Iran war who and what lobby and whose interest were involved) then why continue sanctions that hurt and kill common Iraianin and give lip service to democracy in Israel or Saudi arab and Bahrain?
A peacuful resolution of Iraq conflict was rebuffed by the West at the behest of israel whose FM (1991) Mr Levy claimed that Israel would attack Iraq if the West failed to do so.
If a peaceful resolution that keeps Iran intact as a country were the aim then why the Brazilian-Turkish offer was ignored and deplored, why the Iranain offer in 2003 that was so favorable to US was rejected ? Aagin did the Kurds or the Sunnis do it? Is the oil lobby doing it? Is the military doing it? No. None of them. Oil industry would be happy to do buisness with them and militray-industrial -complex will be happy to do business with them.
Mr K is engaging into play of words and introduction of confusion by bring issues that have no relation to Iraq war.
What kind of war was it Mr Witty?
BenGurion starts smuggling planes,aircraft carrier,guns of differnet calibre and also WW2 war veteran from US despite clear laws against such activities. He bribes Truman to support an UN resolution that has no leagl authority and that was non binding. Usng the post ww2 situation created by uncertainty,epidemics,war fatigue,displacemnet,lack of money,breeding rebellion in Greece and Italy and Turkey and impending death facing European citizen ( accoring to Ben Guiorn things that may not be possible in ordinary times can be accomplished in the confusaion of a crisis) Ben Guiron's gang in US forced UN to divide a land against the wishes of the indigenous people . It was also nonbinding and it had no legal authority to fenorce it. But using the stolen firepowers Israel provoked a war that they knew they would win. US and USSR and other power lent a legitimacy to this horrendous exrecise in human story.
Never ask a pedphile to baby sit a child and never ask the Zionist to heal and repair the wound.
THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
Published: December 20, 2011
Iraq was always a war of choice. As I never bought the argument that Saddam had nukes that had to be taken out, the decision to go to war stemmed, for me, from a different choice:THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
12/20/11 NY Times
"Friedman had been pushing the notion of an Iraqi nuclear threat as far back as July 7, 1991, when he severely criticized the first President Bush for leaving Saddam in power in the 1990-91 Persian Gulf War, arguing that "Mr. Hussein has a unique personal incentive to continue trying to obtain a nuclear weapon quickly." Friedman wrote critically of what he considered President Bill Clinton's tepid response to Iraq's supposed WMD threat, with the columnist warning in December of 2002 that "Saddam Hussein was an expert at hiding his war toys and, having four years without inspections, had probably buried everything good under mosques or cemeteries." Friedman was a particularly harsh critic of the French, who wanted to triple the number of U.N. weapons inspectors and let them finish their work before rushing to war. Friedman in February of 2003 argued that "the inspections have failed not because of a shortage of inspectors. They have failed because of a shortage of compliance on Saddam's part, as the French know. The way you get compliance out of a thug like Saddam is not by tripling the inspectors, but by tripling the threat that if he does not comply he will be faced with a UN-approved war." link to opednews.com
No. No Israeli child deserves Fallujah.
I remeber Colin Powell , immediately after the 2003 war asking Arab nations to recognize and do business with israel. He also touted the prospect of restarting of the pipeline from Kurdistan to Haifa ASAP.
proudzionist777 says:
Are they pushing? Or have they been told by US to push?
Chairman of OIC just assetered that Iran was not building any nukes. Majority of Arab citizen from Morocco to Iraq have supported neuclear ambitions of Iran and contiunes to do so.
First Gulf War was resented by Saudis , Egyptians and they wanted to continue negotiation to let Iraq leave Kuwait with some respect.This was ignored by US under pressures from Israel and neocons.
Krauss says:
December 21, 2011 at 10:19 am
I have a few reservations about your commnets
1- Oil lobby did not want this war. It does not help them to have interrupted flows of oil, loss of business from destruction of pipelines,fires,saboatge and lack of security. May be Halliburton saw it as an opportunity of rebuilding the infrastructures after destruction by the neocon's war.But not the big players back then. Right now oil lobby does not want war with Iran.They want to do business with Iran.
It was the intentionally stupid commnet by Fed Chairman that brought this lies to the realm of respectabilty and useful obfuscation.
"would seem to put him outside the mainstream" of American politics"
One can call it a simple lapse of memory, unawareness of the reality,or a simple distortion. But given the facts that US/Israel have been accusing Iran of about to have nukes in next 12 months to 26 months from 1984 and IAEA repeatedly saying that Iran does not have any active programme of bomb makings which have been repeatedly said by China,India,Brazil,Russia as well, this kind of dismissal of Ron Paul's views by Feineman is nothing but a testament to the depravity and low-down of the American journalism and expert opinion. Americans cocnsitently refuse to support a military soultion to Iranain problem when facts are articulated clearly in any opinion poll.
To someone who swims in the sewage to be paid ,the majority view may not count as mainstream!
whom Socrates tried in his days
to debunk and destroy without much succeess.
because his problem was not with the notion of a homeland for the dispossessed Jewish tribe so much as it was with the continued existence of the tribe itself—Podhoretz
Any link to any of Hitchen's article /speech to back it up?
He was a cheap war-monger , a typical Greek Sophist ( whom Socrates tried in his days)who took cheap shot at religious communities in general and made whatever arguments he had to , to be accepted by the elite .
Helen Thomas lost her job from (?)Hearst News paper and was denied access to White House front row. Her appearance was cancelled by schools/colleges for saying that Israeli Jewish should go back to Germany, UK,Poland and USA where they came from. Her was not a prepared speech in front of luminaries and well known figures but was an inadvertent commnet to a a sick guy who was videotaping her without her knowing..
Gingrich goes out with prepared speech in front of politically active , financillay well heeled,possibly well known to every Congressmen-women and Senators crowd who can influnece governmnet of US and the West. He says that Palestinian are invented people who should fade away in the larger wilderness that is Arab land.
Why Gingrich is not being condemned by White House sameway?
Why he still has access to White House?
Why the newspaper is still trying to get his opinion and track his polling numbers?
Do the media have a responibilty (of being consitent and even handed ) that comes from the perks they enjoy including access to Governemnt affairs.briefs,influencing polciy and offerring advices and from Tax break?
The people/organizations who called her antisemite and destoyed her life overreacted and they are intentionally underacting ( not acting )now.
Who advised Helen to say those words?
Who are advising Gingrich how to approach crowd for money and vote?
There is Taiwan Lobby, Saudi lobby,and Pakistani lobby and Georgian Lobby,Indonesian Lobby and many more . We have seen their fates dissipate under American assualt when American interest as articulated by Human Rights or Military or Business community or UN's consesus forced America to do just that.
First Israeli lobby is not even registered as these are. We also have seen the fate of Biden,Petreus and Mullen as late as last year hanging on balance for raising the fact American casulties being related to Israeli activities. Who showed up to defend Isarel ?The same who did not show up to defend these Americans, the same crops of Congressmembers who rightly did not show up to defend Pakisatn after F 16 was not delivered in 1990s and who did not show up to defend Pakisatn after Pakistani nuclear tests . The same Congress did not raise any voice when Richard Perle's protege urged the Defense Board to change regime of Saudi Arab in 2002.
No one was punished by saudi lobby or pakistani lobby. no one lost job or Congress seat or was banished from academia like Finklestein was, no one banished from TV like Olivia Nasr was, no one called out openly and succeessfully Robertson or Graham Jr as bigoted antimuslim as was the fate of Graham sr and Richard Nixon afterthier "antisemitic" commnet of American control by the Jewish people.
No "muslim" or Hindu lobby can force a Congressperson to return the valid and legal donation to campaign as was done to a muslim body in California over spurious claims of anti american activities. The lobby works in overdrive to make sure its activities get unnoticed and never then brought under scrutiny by America by media. So when they openly approach Congresssmne , neither have to worry of any fallout .Those who question are automatically labelled as anti semite. Thats is the fate of Ron Paul to day .His marginalized by the media or banned from debate. The achievment is then celebrated in news media as American succeess against antisemtism!
It is same with Iarn.You never get to hear the honest facts on the grounds. Who is feeding anti- Iranain rhetorics to the citizen of UK/Germany/France/USA ? One thing sure it is not the citizen themselves .
This public support against Iran is based on falsehood and Israeli lobbyy who owns the Congress on this matter is orchestrating it. Questioning it is antisemtism and that label is then forced as "yellow ribbon" on the forehead of the dissenters for banishment from society.
I was told by a rabbi that the muslim societies introduced religion in secular matters.
mig
And America was trying to stop Saddam from atatcking Iran as Kissinger lamented that they( Shias and Sunnis ) were not finishing them off first enough. Yes that Holocaust is in the mind of Keller!!!!
I am already ready to accecpt the next mea culpa from Keller for supporting NATOs mission on Libya, lending intellectual credences to Cameron and Sarkozy's grand satnding on Libya,on viagra story from same authors of the machinations for push to attack Libya,on the imminent genoicidal anarchy begulfing Libya unless he(Keller )supported and advanced the causes of those exilee of people like new Chalabi (Jalail )on CIA payroll living near CIA's head quarters and for not seeing the oily connections spilling over from the lips of the Cameron and Sarkozy gangs.
We are forgetting the fact that US engaged in criminal activities from the very begining og its existence and it is continuing to do so. The foucs has changed. At its begining in UK , it was a religious -political movemnet aginst the majority ,it lost and it left the shore ( It is not the first in history. Moorish Spain was founded by the clan marginalized in its own land , the God-King rule was established in Cambodia,laos,and Thailand bythe fleeing expatriates Indian Brahmins-Warrior caste ,Mughal empire was founded by Babur who could not make headway in his own country and obviously the Israelites who either did same or came up with that explanation. Mone of them survived eventually. Incidently in Mughal empire David was often cited in the royal court by the sycophnats to claim legitimacy .Akbar's genealogy included David as one of the forfathers! )
But it is not whta US has done back then but what US has been doing since then until now. The space and time are different but the savagery and the reasons underpinning those behaviors are still very much mired in the same sense of superiority and uniquness. It was based on Bible .Now it is based on the democratic principles,human rights,freedom of expressions, free trade,natioanl security,and aparently on the yearning of the suppressed peopel for the same values worldwide[ even here we hear the echo of the Pope who claimed that Latin America was yearning for the words of the Bible before the arrival of Spainsh ]). The religious utterencaes of Teddy Roosevelt or of Mc Kiney before invading other countries or the use of religio-morality rationality by Wilson or Truman or of refernece to the "values based on Judeo-Christain principles" by our current crop of media perosnnel,political leaders,academics ,or the use of religious symbols l by Reagan/Bush Jr, ,frequent referneces to religion by Aschroft,Bush Jr and current fear mongering against sham threat of Sharia by governemnt official/media/priests are the continuation of the same overt and covert use of religious images to further core interest of the reining elite. Back 200 years ago a majority bought those ideas and since then the majority have not relinquished its role in proviidng the broad base grasroot support to these activities. The differences lie in the facts that people now are allowed to question for the elites know that they can control the flow and effects of those informations.
"But Mr. Wiesenfeld interrupted and said the question was offensive because “the comparison sets up a moral equivalence.”
Equivalence between what and what? “Between the Palestinians and Israelis,” he said. “People who worship death for their children are not human.”
Did he mean the Palestinians were not human? “They have developed a culture which is unprecedented in human history,” he said. " Jim Dwyer ,in link to nytimes.com
This is what is coimg out of the mouth of a ex-governemnt offical ;i.e "People...not human." and it goes unpunished by the academy,government,and by media. What would happen to a one who exchanges the position of the two warring people ( i.e Plaestine and Israeli ) in this conversation? He will never be hired or elected or be allowed to publish a book or raise any social event. He will be condemned as an antisemite!!!
"that a betrayal of Israel is not only wrong but political suicide"
This is what has been done to the American political system by the Israeli lobby: "Dont cross us.We will destroy you" and also ," Dont release or report this fact to anybody.If you do ,there will be haunting consequences ( look at Carter's son's attempt to stand in election"
Israel is still standing while Israel is "wiping " Palestine off the map and is still working to remove Iran off the map.
Tell us more about Kal Nidre ,the advnace payment with assured delivery , for a future crime!
Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff can condemn apartheid weak but a student body represnetative can't take opposite postion.
How does Ignatieff;s views get more traction in media,generating and swaying opinion and in shaping policy of Canada? It does precisely for the reason that he represents government,party,and Canada's voice from his postion. May be he should keep quiet next time a Palestinina terrorism is supected to have caused some griefs to Israel.
Europeans entertained negative images and beliefs about Jews from the days of Paul. how did it chnage? Why does it try to break out? Who prevents it from breaking out? What kind of ammunitions ( or institutions alnd laws are used to stop it from breaking out? ) are used to divert attention from any Jewish role in any incident nowadays? Who are the henchmen that do the biddings ? What happnes to the movie,plays,books,politicinas if this arrangemnet is threatened?
The new normal is spreading of hatred against Islam and muslims. Pentagon has just declassified for another islamophobe media that the financial route of 2008 was caused by Ameria -West hating Arabs and muslim terrorists.
referring to article in www.antiwar.com 3/2/11 by Justin raimondo.
Sounds as was heard by Justin ,like the drumbeat of German Fuerehr of 1930s
It is basically a symbiotic relationship between two corrupt regimes ,i.e : US and Saudi. US uses "democracy" and "religion". Saudi uses "religion" and "oil flow" to circumvent rules at home and abroad,to carry on oppression at home and abroad.Saudi hides behind religion and US provided legitimacy.US hides behind the folklore of "Founding Fathers,Lincoln,Kennedy,WW2, Mc Donald, travel to moon,and a few other earth shatterring achievemnets".