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The War of Ideas in the Middle East
Remember that Yellow Ribbon from Iran . Israel has an in curable disease of projection .
The brain- dead pseudo conscious citizen coil have easily been riled up and energized on MSNBC. FOX. WSJ. NYT. NY Daily. Evn if they said " what about Saddam or what about. Stalin '"
This cabal wants us to believe Iran is benefitting from billions of free booties in dollars and merchandise. While occupying. Kabul and while attacking Dubai. and sending death squad to kill US citizen in the sea
Its time to recap the Iraq war against the development in ME. This is what 30 years ago Oded Yinon envisaged and PNAC popularized it wrapping it in US flag.
America wants this problem go away but it is being tethered to all the whims of Israel that keeps on morphing to new mutant every day . Even a weak saddam was a Saddam .So he has to go.Even a weak Iraq was still an intact Iraq with potential to stop Israeli hegemony , so it has to be balkanized . Israel knew it but it taught US a different lesson in forecast " life will be fine and people will be happy. They will be a beacon of hope to Iranian and other and oil be cheaper" . Cheap oil would have made Saudi weaker but that did not happen . So to make it weaker , a slow process of destabilization around it along with most vicious propaganda had to ensue until it yields .And it yielded . Following 911, there was virtual war in the media against Saudi for years . Even Boston Bomber was thought by FOX , could be used against Saudi . What Saudi could do to escape the wrath of Israel? Either change the ruling system or bow to the demands from Israel. Palestine is the goat that they can sacrifice at the altar .But the god will demand more. We will hear after Syrian capitulation again from Saudi another new initiative where they will agree to allow Israel to remove Israeli Arabs and West Bank Plaestiniains to Jordan or to Iraq or to Syria in the face of manufactured violence in its backyard.That development will undermine the confidence of Saudi and enrage it against Iran on one hand , on another hand force it to agree to new Israeli demands. Using anger of Saudi ( custodian of Mecca a good propaganda trope to mobilize muslim support or numb their opposition ) against Iran , USA under pressure from Israel will ratchet up pressure on Iran .Saudi will be asked to generate right emotion of hatred against Iranian rulers even if Iran were not to be found doing anything in its backyard ( remember that plan to kill Saudi ambassador ) . Iraq war's benefit to reach Israeli bank was delayed by few years but it is making its way slowly.
link to youtube.com
'Jewish NeoCons' Responsible For Iraq War: MSNBC -Carl Bernstein
Are we seeing more open discussion on TV as ME comes unglued?
Chomsky has started shifting his position-
"Chomsky Acknowledges the Neocons as the Dominant Force in Pushing for Iraq War"
By Stephen J. Sniegoski
The Passionate Attachment
March 7, 2012
Sniegoski has thanked for this information same James Morris who unearthed the e mail exchanges between Max Boot and General David Petraeus,
link to thepassionateattachment.com
Are Qatar and Saudi supporting voluntarily? Or are they being held hostage to some deeper scheme of adverse possibilities?
He was a monster. He did more damages to US by transitioning the country to war mode for next 60 years through hyperbole on cold war ,defense spending,and creating CIA.
BTY did his daughter write/say that Zionist agents tried to kill him? Or was it aan anti Jewish propaganda?
This is deeply disconcerting. It is a slippery slope to adopting nazi like attitude by the media What essentially they are saying is that anytime anybody does not follow the script written by the Zionist or their co brethren in secular clothing in relation to ME has to be first evaluated by ethnic and religious background and discarded or respected accordingly .
This is flabbergasting from every angle this is viewed andI hopeLandis should sue NPR for bias and slander. This is from an environment where remote but fact based negative reference to any pro Israeli or Anti American activities by any person or group or government functionary or media or cultural icon with Jewish background is castigated ,berated,denounced and portrayed as reemergence of dark Antisemitism of Europe of the past 1000 years . This is the depth of the moral degeneration and clearly out of fear that is stalking these folks. it is shame that these moronic minions can get away with this kind of personal attack.
Thank you for this piece of I formation. If you had ,could you provide the source/ link please?
Never hurt the feelings. Never. Every time anyone dares to hurt the feelings of the Zionist , Israel will answer with more settlements.
Oops! That is not the end of the history. Once the feelings are respected by some statements ,Zionist will seize on that saying " you supported our claims .Now act on it"j
Never hurt the feelings. Never. Every time anyone dares to hurt the feelings of the Zionist , Israel will answer with more settlements.
Oops! That is not the end of the history. Once the feelings are respected by some statements ,Zionist will seize on that saying " you supported our claims .Now act on it"
Dov is a lot better model than the other religious practioners from other faith - Muslim,Hindu,and Chritian . Large number of them wear religion on beard,sacred thread,and hanging cross to purify their dirty wares . But so do other organizations and groups. I have ads for FLAMES in Nation Magazine in every issue quite prominently laid out next to articles on peace or justice or anti military
Arab defend their behaviors without subverting that of US.Neither they got paid if they ever tried. Some of the proponents of secular positions( Iraq of 1950s and Iran of 1950s) have been undermined just as was Arafat by US/Israel . Now go and defend the behaviors of Israel without ensnaring US.
can you elaborate? You are onto something.
It's time to decipher the loaded jargon like "self determination" and "right to exist"
Does US Christian or White or ethnics of English-German heritage lose self determination by allowing the same rights to those not included in its definition that it enjoys or claims for itself? Unless we allow the definition to include the right to attack neighbors,spy on ally,interfere in the politics of other nations,and ignore the international laws ,we seem to be nothing but bunch of antisemitic breed out to deny Israel its "fundamental" rights of interfering into other people business as it sees fit.
Did refusing of voting rights to people of color or of Peurto Rico or Guam constitute an open infringement of fundamental rights promoted by a democracy? Could US have been accused of neglecting its professed goals if it decided not to allow election n Iraq and of dereliction of duty if it did not allow Iraq to choose the party platform or candidate or decide not to recognize the election outcome?
Nice convoluted argument. It will sell well with FOX and CNN and White House spokesperson when they run out of rhetoric. 1- "Iran will be treated with..".- You mean it is not being !
2- "NK threat is downplayed for it is so dangerous and so severe"
You mean more than Israel is to its neighbors !
Are you suggesting that Israel did not fly over the sky of its neighbors ?
Are you saying that Israel did not say that it would take down the World meaning the Europe and US ?
You have noticed correctly that Iran is not a serious threat but then you lose it it all by including yourself in the lying vortex of Israeli talking heads .You are also subscribing to the view that it is fair and dandy to keep on killing Iranian by cycle bombs,restricting medicine and food, forcing breakdown of infrastructures and maintainance of transport system,creating possibility of nuclear meltdown in case Iran becomes something like NK when Iran is saying "remove those impediments and there will be a deal "which almost came to a fruition in 2010and in 2003-6 .
But then what shall one expect from Israel when its leaders praise the virtues and foresight of the editor of the recent "King Torah" bible prescribing the same view?
Yes.It is the Diaspora driven and Diaspora controlled regime of France,Germany,Canada,Australia,and UK who are worried of iranain nukes and at least from 2003 when the power of war was unleashed on ME by US.Prior to that these countries neglected Iranian issues and so did US to a large extent .
Sometime one wonders if Israel was created for the safety of common Jewish folks or for the mafia/warmongers/plain thugs who can run away form scene of crimes and hide behind the sovereignty concept of a country
And why D Suter of Urban Moving is not being extradited? He fled NY for Israel leaving his underwear hanging on the window and food left over table after the dancing Israeli were cornered. he is on FBI wanted list . He is in Israel.
Many leaders back then knew Mr Hitler,many worked with him ,a great many used him for their own nationalistic causes without adding anything to Germany of 1930s and a lot also worked with Mr Hitler for mutual advantage. The German Zionist worked with Mr Hitler to mutual advantage displacing the German non Zionist Jewish leaders. Leaders from India worked with him and the current Israeli favorites BJP and RSS still showcases leaders like Vir Savarkar who actually agreed with the Nazi assertion that the Aryan Germany had no room for Jewish with extra territorial economic and political loyalties . Vir Savarkar was not done with his vituperative comments even as late as 1961. Then the Great Mufti - was not he selected by Herbert Samuel.? He was over other candidate despite losing the municipality election. Even if Mufti consorted with Hitler , it was no less nationalistic and no obnoxious than that of Israeli PM promising Hitler of aNazi like state inME and no more racist than the long list of Jewish leaders who supported the Fasist Mussolini
Has anybody showcased it anywhere as another instance of advancing antisemtism on the Hill and in the Hollywood?
Times used to routinely publish even handed opinion pieces and the news happening at the scene of the I-P conflicts back in . It featured Admiral Thomas Moorer,Chairman of the Joint Chief of the Staff addressing the same concerns that the recent anti-American activities at the Hagel's testimony again have exposed . He openly said that no American President had the courage to stand up to Israel in that column.That was 1974!
There was an inredible article in Counterpunch by an Indian writer on the racist ,hateful,and bigoted utternaces by the Israeli leaders from 1950s. I dont have the link
Krauss
Can I have the link please on Nahum Barnea.? This is incredible.
Somewhere I read that the Congress does not allow any journalist when they discuss and decide the amont of money to be supplied to Israel.
Lander brings nothing new on the table.he is here behaving like a good cop in the good cop bad cop settings. The familiar pattern of,labeling any valid Palestinian exercise in abstract and meaningless term like " I have particular concern" without elaboration is reminiscent of equally overt maligning term like " beyond mainstream or beyond pale". His other argument that every country does it .I guess he has Burma, China,Russia,Iran or Zimbawe has in mind . Those countries don't depend on US bailout and periodically are sanctioned by UN or USA
This is off topic. But I am trying to locate some historical events. Where is the comment about the pressure and threat posed to nascent Indian government by Israeli /Zionist leaders throuigh threatening anonymous phone call in around 1948 ? How can I get to that site here at Mondoweiss? Thanks
May be that is s the time (Holocaust anniversary ) when Nethahooo and other Jewiish leaders should refrain from hollering and yelling at the World for not shedding Iranian blood.
I can agree with you on the meaning of what he said and what he meant. Doesn't
Israel Palestine paper prove that ? But why look so far into history when the meanings of every political and ethical words have acquired a different and often opposite meanings from the very inception of the Zionist endeavor
Sad end of Isarel following the trajectory of Pakistan
It is always nice to know that Isarel instigated and mounted a preemptive attacks against Arab to establish a Palestinian state.One wonders why did Isarel immediately start sending settlers to occupy Golan,WB,Sinai and plan for annexation of S Lebanon?
The double talk started by Herzl and BnGuiron have now percolated to every level
Of Israeli society . They believe their own lies.
If Israel were genuinely interested ,they would have decamped by now. British did leaving Indian to their devices, USSR did in East Europe and Aghanistan and Indoneisan did to its next door ,and USA did in Vietnam
SChumer is saying in essence that he and Adelson have same concern and same projects.Its all about Israel. But he has convinced himself that Hagel is good for Israel while Adelson hasn't be able to veer round to that view. Its not democracy or transparency or patriotism at play here . Even the identical twins don't have same pulse and blood pressure every day.Even the sons and daughters have different ideas how to best manage the health and estate of ailing fathers . Nobody should fool themselves that Charles Schumer any less guilty than Adelson is . Support for Hagel in future runs the risk of being interpreted as the weakening of the Lobby.It is not. Support by Schumer runs the risk of being interpreted as an example of loyalty to American interest rather than to Israel by self proclaimed Zionist . It is not.
Quite consistent with the practices of penning the African migrants in cages and making threat to bomb the child care center run for the African immigrants. It is also in line with denying the safety measures to the guest workers during 2003 Iraq war . Racism is in the air. Just not that long ago, one of the Israeli ministers reminded his/her Austarlian counterpart why and how Israel understood the Australian anxiety of the "Yellow Peril" flooding the Down Under.
So the draft was written by the Zionist. Things have not changed much. A lot of bills in US Congress are written by the Zionist .They are enshrined in Iran , Iraq,Libya,and Syria sanction acts and accountability act. Tom Lantos gloated in 2007 with menacing tone against the " oil baron " and reminded who carried more power in shaping US trade policy in ME. These bills and acts are then presented to US public as evidence of the US public support to the Zionist activities .
So where does this piece of information or misinformation fit that Chaim Weizman when asked what he wanted in return for the acetylene supply to the H .M. of UK in times of war replied that the Jews wanted establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine?
Meanwhile another Rabbi ( i used to have a lot of respect for this guy until now) reminding the world the need for peace, to pray for peace and apparently according to him no one gains form violence .Before he does he let the cat out of Israeli bag full of one item that is targeted propaganda . Here is the interview on UK TV provided by Telegraph (UK)
'It's got to do with Iran': Chief Rabbi Lord Sacks' unguarded comments about Gaza conflict
Chief Rabbi Lord Sacks is caught off guard during a Radio 4 Today programme broadcast when he is asked about the Gaza conflict
The Chief Rabbi had been asked by presenter Evans Davis for his reaction to the situation in Gaza immediately after delivering the daily Thought for the Day on Radio 4's Today.
He initially responded: "I think it's got to do with Iran, actually", before being told he was live on air.
He quickly responded by making a plea for peace saying: "A continued prayer for peace is needed, not only in Gaza but the whole region".
link to telegraph.co.uk
The bag of propaganda is carried by the UK media also as always to lighten the burden of Israel.
Man projects usually in the immediate context. But Israel is a different beast . It issues prophecy and always about its own future behaviors taking the format of a projection. After accusing Iran of the comment-"wipe off the face of the earth" , it has decided to wipe out the whole place known as Gaza if Gazan did certain things though those very certain things have been practiced by Israeli on Iran continuously for some time. This will not be the first time. The projection started with their founding figures.
"Anti-Semites oppose Jewish ethnic nationalism because it’s Jewish"
It helps if you could elborate and expand on this premise . It is the very elastic nature of the concept of Jewish nationalism which includes contradictory elements and demands unconditional acceptance by everybody on earth from every school of poltical thoughts that has genertaed such negative attitude to this ethnocentricism of Jewish nationalistic ideas. It is a poltical idea that can be acceptable to beleivers in nazism and Fascism but cant be accecpted by people following democracy. It is also cant be accecpted by those who are not Jewish for the idea itself is exclusionary. Some one not of Jewish faith has to bend backwards and give up any sense of citizenship living under a system based on this theory to live but only as a separate class with less privileges and protection. Such sytmen are there in the world but they also operate under sanction and disapproval. Antisemtie how ever incorrigible they are has every right to point to this facet to deny it any legitimacy. It is like the argument of 7 day Adventist to refuse blood infusion on the ground that the blood is contaminated
"What lessons had it learned from the debacle of the 1980s when it provoked a war that has brought so much havoc to its own country, without even consulting the government in which it serves? "
The lies just get better. Doesn't it?. The same lies about 2006 war that was preceded by numerous violations of Lebanese airspaces,by kidnapping of farmers and incursions into Lebanese territories by Israel and for which Israel was planning in advance for 6-9 months.
NYT in 1992 was publishing articles on S Africa finding and endorsing moral and historical equivalances between neo Nazi Africaner and the black youth dreaming of armed struggle to get rid of colonialism,and was predicting death of anti apartheid struggle to the latest vaporization of applied Marxism in Soviet Russia.
Here NYT is somewhat treading on same path and resurrecting same arguments only in an opposite direction to assert guilt by association for a large number of followers of Nasrallah and the movement. Is NYT suggetsing that the core problems are also mired in antisemitism and be fought tooth and nail to prevent any solution ? Otherwise why an obscure remarks are being resurrected? It seems the problem is same as that one faced by Ahmednezad.
Now another guy is doing this dance started by a lies in 2006 then repeated ad libitum by NYT and WaPO-this is latest on the usefullness of a lie - "Rep. Steve Israel (D-NY) introduced legislation to the House last week that calls for Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to be arrested for incitement to genocide."http://www.rawstory.com/
This is a familiar pattern often embraced by these media. Despite the lies being exposed multiple times and despite the impotence of such a possible statement(lies) ,media keep on harping and allow the anti muslim politicians to drum up support for war ,sanction,and assassination based on the lies .
Is NYT is tyrying to achieve something here given the current situation in Levant and given the existence of the wet dreams of the neocons ?
We have come a long way. At one time the war were legit only if it were in self defense. Then came the idea of ticking time bomb. even if time bombs's existence were in doubt. It was followed by thought crimes and harbouring of ideas that could be used to wage war. The natural next step to those situations will be to invent ideas and words and project it to the enemies so that war could be started and justified.
If lies about WMD could be manufactured in a monolithic fashion by lobby,media,and politicians why not lies about statements and speeches to achieve same goal?
Exodus as a book and later as a movie have tried to achieve same what 24/7 FOX,CNN, and Christian Broadcasting networks have been engaged to achieve for last 10 to 15 years joined by numerous other like WSJ and WaPO particularly after Iraq war 2. Exodus was following the footsteps of earlier successful attempts of similar propaganda that was carried out by Jewish rallies and marches ,NY Times,politicians in US and UK and by Protestant ministers.
Klaus Bloemker Oct 27 ,2012 at 1 43 pm
1-The Hitsraduth, a Zionist trade union run by David Ben Gurion terrorized Jewish shops and factories who dared to employ Palestinian .Jewish women buying from Palestinian were attacked .Palestinian fields and vineyards were vandalized .
in Israeli Peace Palestinian Justice , by Thomas Are p 32
2-Weizmann expressed his feelings and plans about indigenous Arabs to Soviet ambassador in London (UK) that he would throw out Arabs to different parts of Arabs and settle 4 millions of European Jews who would turn desert into a blooming garden which Arabs had reduced to a filthy place by their primitivism and laziness= Benn Morris - Righteous Victims -p 42 and Morris ,Birth pp 45-8
Quoted by Geoffrey Wawro in QUICKSAND Americas Pursuit of Power in Middle East p-45
3-A Arab would get 120 piastres a day compared to a Jew getting 230 piastres a day or same job in 1930s or 70 a day compared to 120 ( Jewish laborer ) or 120 a day ( Arabs orange picker ) compared to 220 by a Jewish orange picker- p 34 in Quicksand.
4Ben Gurion started building on the outskirts and slowly moving inwards with the plan of turning whole Palestine into a Jewish state.
BNA FO 371/104735 Tel Aviv Dec 22, 1953 Anthony Moore to Eden .Kirk, Middle east in the war pp 232-33
5-US ( Pres Wilson ) like UK ( Balfour and LLoyd ) calculated that the millions of Jewish in Russia could be counted to turn Bolshevik movement friendly and more moderate and manageable towards western interest while Wilson was also coming under pressure same time from L. Brandeis, Jewish activist in US and from marches and rallies held by organized and active Zionist across US in 1917 to support Zionist plans -BNA WO 106/189 London Feb 6 , 1919- referenced in QUICKSAND p- 615
6-US Senate and Congress quietly banned Jewish and Cathoclics immigration to US after WW2 while pressed UK to lift the ban and assumed fervently pro immigration ( to Palestine by European Jewish ) ) policy and position in US fro public consumptions that could be translated into votes from Jewish and gentiles alike and financial support from US Jewish
Do you all have to do to be President Mr Obama. You should also consult the Drone manufacturer how to make sure that the little children killed in Pakistan by Drone can grow a wing and fly to freedom ,liberty,and justice offered by the US with the return leg of the Drone to play with your kids with crayon and sand or softball.
The lies about 1967 war has been exposed by Begin and by other military figures of Isreal. Still liberal Rabbi uses it ( or may be he knows and is telling 1967 war was started by Israel but still should have been supported by US .Isreal was supported then by letting USS go down memory hole but then again liberal rabbi may be asking that US should have done more like doing the actual fighting for Isreal )
Rabbi knows Palestinian has agreed to 2 state solution with Jews /Arabs living side by side and within the lands as co equal. Rabbi knows like evryone else the Church knows it and does not have to remind the Palestinian to remember what Palestinian already fully remembers . Church also knows that return of refugees or partitioning of Jerusalme is not an only Palestinain issue but one that is upheld by UN and US (until now ) .Unless the Rabbi is asking the church to throw those established positions under the bus the way Saban and sheldon -money-soaked Romney and Obama are doing along with the rest of the crowd looking for a chair in Congress and Senate ,his convoluted lies about the past that have been expsoed by israel itself is an exrcise in obfuscation and d elays and slanderings with more lies.
His other assertion that he was a critic of settlement is reminiscent of those lies by Ben Gurion ,Herzl,and person like Elizer Ben -Yehuda who asked in 1880s " We shall not set up committees so that the Arabs will know what we are after,we shall act like silent spies" and Ben Guron writing this " I am certain we will be able to settle in all other parts of country,whether through agreement..with our Arab neighbours or in another way.Erect a Jewish state at once ,even if not the whole land.The rest will come in the course of time.it must come" to his son Amos. Jabtosnky urged American to raise money to scatter Palestinians to other parts of Arab lands. Herzl was soothing the fears of Arab notable by picturing and promising of co existence and joint enterprises and of mutual benefits while planning for 'an outpost of civilsation" aginst barbarism for the benefit of the West in addition.-(ref Herzl's Nightmare by Peter Rodgers )
Warrior lies .The lies change. The war that Bush brought in was of massive lies and often was seen as lies but people accepted the lies as faliure of itelligence which was another piece of lies and people accepted it as a diversion by American hater or an innocent mistake on its way by the Just Warrior. Today Obama being more intelligent that Bush and being more in need of post presidency money supply to support his family wants two things badly respetively : one to remain in the good book of enlightened liberal who quetsion war only when they are based on oil but not when based on values and another is to remian in the good book of Pentgon-military -Wall Street corridor .Both will also ensure a position that Clinton is enjoying. If Obama changes the direction the apparatus that controls the movement of going over to "Dark Side" ( as Cheny mentioned one time ) will hurt him by creating a false flag operation or ratcheting up some obscure past from his Indonesian childhood .
System corrupts. This is not going to get any better until and unless American leaders at the top start working on the intrinsic debilitatingly perverse nature of the US foreign policy in relation to 3rd world countries. This is not new what America is doing.It has been doing it since its founding .
Will Dinseh D Souza now write a book on persecution of Romeny's religion as an explanation of money-based symbiotic relation to Adelson who is destroying what democratic values are still left in the US system. Only a "rage" can explain it. I bring it up for the reference to the Boston experiences of Adelson as a kid for this kind of pseudo-legal anti American activities in WaPo. There have been explanations whirling around too long among the Conservative circle that Obama is a secret muslim or an Indonesian or a communist or a anti white 3rd world sympathizers for his experineces of growing up with a Kenyan father in a a muslim land.Sometime this explanation has taken a psychobabble form that Obama is fulfilling the dreams of his father who was absent from his childhood. Either way a vicarious experience is being touted to demonize Obama while an experinence in South Boston that is common to any Blacks or Latinos and now to a lot of Brown in a lot of neighbourhood is being elevated to a level of holocaust uniquely for a man who sees US as nothing but doormat to enter the Zion.
A search of archives will reveal what Israel stood for before even it was created .
Moshe Smilansky in 1914 -"We are dealing with a smei-savge people who has extremely primitive concept.."
Zee've Jabotinsky- Arabs are" yelling rabble dressed in savage-painted rugs"
Moshe Shertok ( later Sharett and first FM of Israel )-" WE have not come to an empty land to inherit but to conquer from peopel inhabiting it ,that governs it by virtue of its language and savage culture "
Herzl in 1895 was writing in his diary of "spriting the penniless population across the " the desert "discreetly and circumspectly" to build "an outpost of civilization as opposed to barbarism" which wouls be guarded by Jabotinsky's "Jewish bayonets". Violence became the vernacular of Israeli leadership to convey the essence of the new enterprise. Begin after massacring Deir Yassin residents gloated how violnece and terror inflicted by Jewish forces on Arabs would condition Arab to passive acceptance of terror and to leave . Today Geller's ad on bus in NY or the rejoicing at the violence by majority of Israeli are the long shadows of similar previous ongoing attempts within the Zinost establishmnet and simply now out in the open.
Ref- Herzl's Nightmare One Land, Two Peoples-by Peter Rodgers ( a former Australian ambassador to Israel) Nation Books. ISBN-1-56025-694-x
Yes.That is what is going on but it is so sad. America has come a long way form this kind of public manifestation of racism of 30s and earlier . But I guess this a wonderful gloss and nothing more than the veneer that hides the history of labeling the enemy as beast before killing them with no guilt.
Scratch it a bit and it shows up as an wound still raw red and angry.
Mulsim have done nothing to Romney , neither has any Palestinian but in a world when everybody's worth is defined by market returns ,Romney is playing along just fine. But why just blame this outlet when WSJ can add its moral and intellectual shield to the exhortation of Geller to choose the civilized against the savages with no legal ,moral,or intellectual pushback from any mainstream media?
This is where the dark sinister manipulation of free speech are allowed to generate widespread benefits in the social,political, and cultural realms for a few well connected powerful racist goons feeding and nurturing each other.
" At the English-language Jerusalem Post, Israel Kasnett published a hyperventilating piece titled “Support the civilized man,” in which he declared that Geller “has it right” and urged the West to “stop apologizing to the Muslim world, get behind Israel and defeat Jihad.” More recently, William McGurn published a piece in The Wall Street Journal in which he opined, “Whatever the agenda of those behind this ad might be, the question remains: What part of that statement is not true?” link to thenation.com
It was not that long ago, Arabs were depicted by early zionist as nothing but corrupt,idle,ignorant people who exploit women , children and hate science and The West. It has reached the mainstream and by reaching there it has in fact weakened America.
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This is sad to watch these nocturnal animals feeding even during the daylight on the decomposing body of the American values , as the barriers to their forays into the civic society get lowered,easier,and permissible.
This is the typical path taken by the neocons to utter some nonsense,get it published ,get it heard in Senate and then get it having impacts on Pew Research or some other varieties o polling geared to
gauging public opinion. War will knock at the door soon.It is mapped out at the inception.it's trajectory is determined .
This ensures that the US public get blamed ,senate is investigated for coming to certain wrong conclusion and the media starts pointing fingers at the sloppy legworks .The cycle starts again with the stupid assertion how this time is different and this time intelligence is in no mood at supporting any claims unless they have verified it and vetted it .How do we know it? Well they dont want to miss the signs this obvious after messing things up last time ! Nice argument to convince people accept the empty bottle by labeling it as waiting to be filled up with one of "your" choices. Americans like autonomy .
To write something this monstrous one have to establish the credentials with the local Jewish community or with some Israeli settlement site or with Israeli military or prison. Men and women interfacing between these organization and their sisiter organizations in US will be more than happy to add a few nice stuff like democracy promotion and human right advocacy to the evolving resume'. Public now is really thrilled .He or she has to know the different branches of Shia and the name of the last Shah of Iran , a little bit about Carter's fiasco over hostage crisis. Bingo! We have an Iran expert. FOXNews /CNN/MSNBC will ask him as stand by to offer some insights .Another achievement in the eyes of the public and the senate. Both now will weigh in favor of what the expert says about Iran. He then scores another point that goes into Pew research findings. So we get there where the pinheads want America to go that is to go for the war
Whistle blowers are not very safe.
The very people who have asked the Congress to look into the current congressional practices are being threatened with dire consequences by the beneficiaries openly.Thye do it knowingly that the corruption is so deep that their way of doing business will never be examined .
Thank you Rabbi. Hope your voices ring a bell in the dark recess of Congress and Senate.
Will it be shown in any other city or in NY again?
"Avraham Shalom, a ruthless former official now old and reflective, "
Thats what happens to human when we are old and infirm and have managed to move out of the zone established by religion, family,nationalities,or creed. The truth hurts and pains and we seek redemption in different ways.
J Street is the face that AIPAC wants to hide from right wings and AIPAC is the face that J street wants to hide from corporate approved liberal blah blah feel good party .
I would not have factored the the history of him being a Nathahoo roommate but I do now given the theme of this article, he accepting the lies from Israeli embassy without even vague confirmation from Obama administration and denial of the pervasive power of the Lobby. He is like Judith Miller who was rerouting Curveball and Chalabi through the official channel who would then quote Judith Miller or some one like Jeff Goldberg as independent observations by the investigative journalists on the ground .
In his next appearance Mitt or his surrogates in Republican Party may end up citing the article that starting the war as the most reasonable, unavoidable, and eventually rewarding things to do.
This is why I dont believe in a conspiracy theory I believe in the laws of the conspiracies ,overt,visible,and available for the people with tools ( powers ) to apply.
D S is asserting that Obama cant t be trusted about negative fallout since he has overestimated negative consequences in other areas . D S is ignoring that the sanction is hurting Greek,Italy,India,and scores of other nations while Israel does not for its parasitic one way relation to US money and even oil. It has hurt US companies and it has hurt US prestige and eroded goodwill .It has killed Israian citizen.It ahs contributed or not reduced high oil prices in US. Above all it is the Israeli pressure that has forced US to engage in falsehood and manipulation to increase the sanction which by itself is an act of war and is an unprovoked one It is the Israeli pressure that has pushed US to force other countries (despite the harms to their self interest ) to adopt Israeli lines .D S is also seeding doubt in the voters minds about Obama and asking him to take notice of his weakness .
Author is asserting how Romney is articulating a clear idea on foreign policy in contrast to "doubting Thomas" Obama .To highlight the issue he reminds everybody of the stark absence this time of any usual gaffe that Rommeny always ends up engaging to.
Instead of mentioning of public fatigue and cost author could have raised the simple fact to the consciousness that the war and unwarranted wars are costly. Wars on false pretenses are always prolonged for the non-existent threat never cease to exist as a threat .Paranoid delusion does not go away by killing the person accused of plotting and hatching the worst scenario.It needs a different strategy.The author could also have raised the morality and legality of the war instead of how easy and quick a surgical limited attack of Israeli version will serve electoral purposes of Obama and suit the taste buds of American palates . In another time of more sanity and prudence this will amount to incitement to violence . Instead of saying that US is dragging its feet, author could have reminded how Israel is driving US to war.
By promising and rehasing same old formula of low cost low man power limited duration of wars along with high rewards both for America and the locals the author is selling the same snake oil sold by not that long ago by Wolfowitz,Perle,Kagan,Wurmser,Ledeen,Sharon, Gissin and Nathahoo that destroyed Iraq, US economy and men and women in uniforms and advanced Israeli interest .
To cap it all author along Israeli insiders in the administration is trying to soften any resistance to war .They are also creating a passive acceptance of inevitability even among the diehards anti war pro American by pointing the conspiratorial nature of the decision making at the highest place of the administration.This generates apathy,cynicism,and hopelessness that are detrimental to any participatory democracy. If these are not the losses then God helps us. Question should be raised :Is Israel destroying our democracy ?
""transformative outcome: saving---- assuring American ascendancy in the region for a decade to come."
This is the Money Graf.
The crowd is being led by the veteran psychopath off the cliff again with the Delphi's Oracle promising them a Pax Americana.
The obsession of AIPAC /JINSA or their parent organizations to maintian a certain narrative about Israel and about Arab countries date back to the early years of 20th century starting in the Basel of Switzerland and travelling to US by Wilson's election time menaedring through the court of Turkish sultan and of teh Russian Czar and buying off German,French,and British powers with pormises of delivering economic aids,Jewish votes,and grass root agitation by the Jewish crowd in the hostile countries. Jabotonsky even threatened the rich Jewish peopel if support did not come in time ,there would be attack on thier banks and offices and indusrtries .Promises of safeguarding British and Nazi interest were made by the Zionist.Similar promises were made to Czar and Sultan. Czar passed his concern to other . Same time Palestine was sold as an entity in need of peopel and development that could be done not by lazy,corrrupt,anti Christian Arabs who per Ben Guron understood only force and power.
Further down that line of lying narrative came ex Trostykites and Schanaites of 1940s Jewish intelelctuals who slowly morphed from Communist to Democrat to Goldwater-Reaganite Republican as they saw that the Israeli intersts were being compromised by the new anti -war ,3rd World left section of Democrat.That section has since been eviserated by the confluence of factors in early 80s.
Wolfowitz in those days going back to 1979 trageted Iraq (link to nytimes.com). 911 gave him the opportunity he was looking for reepteadly haranguing even Rumsfield and other to connect Saddam to 911. He scoffed at the intelligence and forced his ideas on other. His lies made its way to the UN address by the president . His role in trying a much forceful repsonse than allowed by UN or warranted US interest was exposed as bellicose and unrealistic by still thoughtful less afraid media in 1992.
This is just one neoocn.There are 50 other with similar heavy weight punches making US policy in ME.
Thank you Chu. This explains the subliminal attempts, behind the scene ,under the table insertion of lies at the service of the AIPAC/JINSA/ADL crowd.
You might have a point though very indirect to the importnace you are attaching to Saudi Arab. Noeocons like Laurent Murawiec,Richard N. Perle, and Kenneth Adelman put enormous pressure to go after SA, seize their oil,declare them as enemy but were pushed back by White House. link to dailymail.co.uk
SA dodged the bullet (but Iraq could not ) in 2002 though SA did not get the AWACS in 1980s courtsey of AIPAC.
The dollar as a reserve currency and as oil as weapon against 'rogue oil producers " are based on total capitualtion of SA to the policies of US. SA gets protection from overt Israeli wrath ( for supporting Paletstinian ) in return. SA tried to bring Hamas and PLO together after 2006 but was prevented by US at the behest of Israel. SA offered a peace deal in 2002 and again 2006 with the full support of every Islaimic countries but was rejected by US since Israel wont even explore the ideas.
SA did enter some kind of deal with US during Rosevelt and during Nixon era that were benificial to US . Give me one exapmle where US benfitted from Isreal. SA is a corrupt family controlled country but it does not mean that Israel is not a racist,aparthied country surviving by milking US for last 6 decades made possible by 5th columns and not by any intrinsic US dependence on Israel.
I have heard before and we will hear in future.But you also have seen the resistance to those lies and indoctrination by the citizen and by the media. Vietnam war , wars in latin America or support for aparthied regime are among those succeessful examples . They succeeded for eventullay US reocgnized the folly,cost,and effcts on the inetrnational relations. America had ears and eyes to the ground .It took a while to open up and appreciate the messages supplied by the relaity . Isreal did not or could not or did not care to interfere. There was no other lobby to interfere with those sane decisions eventually taken by US in 1975 over vietnam, 1990 over S Africa and similar distancing in cases of Brazil, Chile, Bolivia, Peru, or Hinduras or even Venezuela. US could have learnt the same lessons and could have applied the same knowledege to engage to Iraq, Yemen,Somalia, Iran ,Saudi Arabia, but could n't dare for the presence of organizations AIPAC/JINSA/ADL and for the presence of their card holders in the administration and in the media. US still would be fighting China if Taiwan lobby were that effective and dangerous.
For David Green.
How the debate on Middle Eastern policy is shaped by media and propagated to condition Americans to think like a Likudnik could be seen in the VP debate. I am quoting Gleen Greenwald-
"by Glenn Greenwald
iFirst there is this:
RADDATZ: Let's move to Iran. I'd actually like to move to Iran, because there's really no bigger national security...
RYAN: Absolutely.
RADDATZ: ... this country is facing.
Ryan's interruption made it difficult to hear whether Raddatz said that there is "no bigger national security threat the country is facing" or "national security issue". Either way, the very idea that Iran poses some kind of major "national security" crisis for the US - let alone that there is "really no bigger national security" issue "this country is facing" - is absurd. At the very least, it's highly debatable."
October 12, 2012 by The Guardian (UK)
David Green says:
Since 2/3 of the American.."
Mnaufacturing of this consent and this level of support were the works of the AIPAC -provided talking points vomited by neocons on the FOXnews and CNN. Donahue was thrown out for he wont buy this rancid gossip . What was the level of support for war against Iran in 2003 or 2006? Figure it out how that level has gone up how since then? Who is creating this myth of Iran being a danger to US and the world and is one turn of screw away from incinerating Israel and the West?
"On January 25, 1995, Bill Clinton issued Executive Order 12947: Prohibiting Transactions With Terrorists Who Threaten To Disrupt the Middle East Peace Process." link to counterpunch.org
Settlers are illegal occupant and settlements are illegal activities and it threatens the peace process.
How many of these are still out there scuttling the peace process and violating US laws openly while Justice Dept maintains unfathomable silence from the crimes?
Innocence of muslim is a successful mainstreaming of this exercise.
Ahmednezad and Nathanyoo can be comapred on many levels but one of them is powerless to influnce US and Europe and UN.The other person is who is doing his bids for years without any criticsim or denuciation and is enjoying the benfits of doing so .The other person is seeing how his country is slowly sinking into economic abyss.This other person has offered numerous valid negotiating positions and has worked within the international legal rights and obligtaions. Nathyoo has oblitetaed the concept of international laws,and responsibility.
911 is still serving Israel well and so does the movie. Iraq war also has served Israel well by defanging his enemy. Iran war will serve same purpose.
But the short lasting benefit will come to huant Israel for hundred of years. People leave memory to their succeessors.
For dano- I think this issue is a little too complex for you.
This article will clear the thinking of those who want to hide behind Free Speech to conceal their limited understanding of the various forms of human resistance to psychological and physical oppression and humiliation.
This is the article and it is also for the Saudi writer if he ever wants to understand that the whole process in this western debate is nothing but about creating a situation to demonize muslim and Islam and enjoy from a safe distance with glee the same very atavistic raw hateful emotions felt by those who were found out to have urinated on the head of some dead bodies in Kabul and trashed some koran down the toilet. At least they were in a war zone and the hate-filled fear and desperation could be understood. But not the stupidities expressed by "leftie" who blithely sees this protest as expression of backwardness and shades of all varietes of illiberalism.
Ramzy Baroud: That Defining Moment: On Anti-Muslim Films, Cartoons and My Gaza Neighbor -https://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/09/27-0
But Israeli got the dough without paying any price. Land without any down payment or any mortgage, money to buy material to build new constructions,and money to buy ammunitions to use against Palestinians,and money to pay for the soldiers to protect the project. I guess the money that is spent on providing entertainments is also from US tax payers or from German's poor lady.
Two points I want to make. Something is fair and never an issue until and unless a gentiles opens up to repeat it. This give two powerful instruments in the hands of the Zionist.One of the two is for the present political reality and that is to deflect ,divert,quash,silence any discussion that can force the israeli to change their curent behaviors or to acknowledge the past crimes against Palestinian. Second is for the future as an investment in case the table is turned and the powerless becomes the master.Israel can always say that creation of Isreal was a mistake and was in respone to Holocaust that had nothing to do with the Arabs and should never have happened. ( I remember a letter I think it was in USA Today in 1996,The writer reminded the readers as a rejoinder to an earlier article , how the Jewish peopel had helped the company of Ferdinand in Spain against the Moors! It could be true or might be false but obviously in those times that collusion would have been branded as subversion ,terrorism,and treason in today's political parlance )
The other part about the insertion in the Gospel and reamking of Bible. The Qataris ( Saban center ) ,the Saudis ( Rupert Murdoch's news paper group), The Azeris ( the mafia nation run with Israeli muscle ) should be very careful. The prenicious elemets will destroy them and will destroy the Islam ( one of the ways will be to through the Hadith for it allows different sources,credibility,interpretation .Using the ideas and the languages of Hadith the same Scofieldcould be resurrected to preach a dangerous distortion of Islam.Who knows how the current history of mulsim sufferiings will suffuse the invented material presented to angry and fanatics muslims to hasten the endtimes for some and to enrich the pocket for other.)
War to these nutty are something to watch and enjoy and make profit on the sides by selling "Israeli Arts" to an otherwise confused spectators while poor unwashed rural youths with limited or no opportunity to make anything out of life are forced to die for these psychopaths.
yrn
Israel is amazing ? Isn't it? Or is it us who are stupefied by Israel' amazing display of verbal capacity by a multi-forked tongue?
Indonesian army left East Timor. Israel left GAZA. Hilary can plant US flag facing China on E Timor. She can do it even in the inaccessible part of South Sudan. Try it on GAZA. Even NAM leaders cant get entry pass from Israel. Last time Falk and a few Irish were told to get lost in the Sinai desert for trying to see the human cost of Israeli unilateral disengagement. Before that Flotialla murder and prior to that Operation Cast after apparent disengagement .
Spain disengaged from W Sahara and has never been seen on that part of Africa again. Indonesian did not have a validating roles on E Timor election to decide who would who came to power and neither Sudan had one on S Sudan.
The game starts with a terrorist attack, an Iranian terrorist attack"
I guess the world cant have that game show as long as every terror attack can be traced back to Tel Aviv or its Amen Corner in US.
May be just to have that capacity of tracing it by its own people all the way back to Tel Aviv or that Amen Corner ,Iran wants to have some nukes .
This sinister pattern of mutually reinforcing each other worst ethnicity- based destructive misanthropic agenda keep on popping up every time we think and hope that we have seen the worst.
Pity these psychopaths!
Interesting information -
"Avner Cohen’s Israel and the Bomb (Columbia, 1998) documents Israel’s nuclear weapons program from the Dimona project before 1967 to its crossing the nuclear threshold before the Six Day War, and into the construction and development of the Negev Nuclear Research Center. The book also highlights the correspondence between Israeli Ambassador to the US Yitzhak Rabin and US Deputy Secretary of State Paul Warnke, where it becomes clear how the US colluded with Israel to mask its nuclear weapons program and accepted its reasons for ignoring the NPT. Rabin asks Warnke, “What is your definition of nuclear
weapons?” Warnke replies with two points, “the definition of what is and what is not a nuclear weapon, and what is and what is not introduction into the area.” The first part of the definition is fairly clear-cut: if Israel has the components of the bomb, regardless of its state of assembly it would count as a weapon. The second part allows Israel “ambiguity,” with Warnke elaborating on the idea of “introduction” with the remark “that is your term and you will have to define it.” They agreed that if Israel does not test its weapons publically, then they would not be considered to be a nuclear weapons state.
The ambiguity around the term “introduce” is the reason why Shimon Peres told Khaled Dawoud in 1999, “Israel has not tested any nuclear weapons, and without the test, you cannot even introduce. It is a commitment that Israel gave to the world and the United States of America and we are very serious. Israel said that we are ready to sign the ban on nuclear tests. Not only did we not do a nuclear test, but we are not going to have one. These are guarantees that Israel is not going to introduce nuclear weapons to the Middle East.” Israel’s own red line is “introduce.” Iran is being given a much lower threshold."
V Prsahad-http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/09/28/bomb-bomb-bomb-iran/
There is an interesting but very pertinent comment by Babbit quoted in American Conservative -[All economic issues lead to politics .Politics lead to philosophy.Philosophy is bound up with the religion]. Savages have tried every thing but the last, until this time.In this century when dissemination of information is controlled and messages are massaged ,shared human values are distorted ,rules are bent to cover the back and to promote the forward thrust of the few ,chances are that segments of people will get worked up and express self in rage and fury as their route is blocked with hyperbole. This is way the revolution works. America moving straight from colonial -agicultural -communal-religious society to liberalism powered by science and industry might have missed that reinvigorating internal commotion also known as revolution that changes a society from within. America has always transferred the internal tension to near and far abroad. Today we don't have a frontier to settle and occupy. Today's islamophobia is nothing but an expression of that internal tension.But it is a fig leaf, a foil for a much wider fight to try old method of war and conquers. Remember our denunciation of the demands of Wisconsin workers, OWP, and of 911 family or the self-immolation in Tunisia ,Tibet ,marches in Tel Aviv or in Athens.Describing the issue as a savage versus civilization is the recapturing of the old hymns sang by Kipling asking to shoulder the "White" man's burden of educating and improving the lives of the uncivilized men arrested at the level of a child and a half-beast. No body supports violence or breaking of rules but only a few if ever tries to understand it thus making it a possibility.
EscapeVelocity
Do you think vandalism is the only option now left for American people ( who takes subway and trains instead of flying in private jet or roaming around in limousine) to pass /exchange the information like the one provided by Grant Smith about AIPAC and nuclear thievery and the billions of dollars?
Where do I go to hear about this ? FOX in my Mc Donald is always on and it is always about not doing enough for our only ally in Middle east. It is sad for the Nigerian housekeeper at the Walmart knows everything about Iran being poised to strike at US with nukes and nothing about AIPAC/JINSA/ or Rhode or Franklin or Pearl or Ledeen ( Michael). It is doubly sad if she is also eligible to vote both here and in Nigeria with that kind of knowledge .
Going back to the basic will reemphasize the fact that long before people found out how to lie they first mastered how to communicate the essential or pertinent information first.If that service is denied then the lying under the freedom of expression should have no place to express itself.
Pamela Geller is about to ring the number at Israeli PMO to find out how to manipulate this desecration of free speech to the advantage of Nathanyoo -Romney team against Iran .After all it is antisemtism to call anything related to the benefit of Israel as "racist" .
You are right but exceptional moment demands exceptional revisit of everything you have learnt and felt sacrosanct. about. "Racism" would not ascribed to and neither vandalism would erupt if they removed these Israeli-posters as they did remove those billboards asking US to stop sending money to Israel. Breakdown of law is same as distorting and manipulating of laws particularly more so when the latter happens from bribery and suppression of information
Quisling or 5th column and Vichy government all in one.
"“the actual differences on core issues are not that great, they are not insurmountable.”
This shows Abbas is offering his unelected back passage for the safe passage of settlement convoys This only confirms what Guardian already published in Palestine papers.
Brian Williams? Has he done his job ?
If you dont not buy and sell this idea in this shape and size, you are failing and you are failing for you are antisemite.
Thank you for this quote. It is so racist and so pre-medievalian that one with this kind of belief should be retired to the dark cave of the pre modern man ( or a zoo will do)so that none gets infected with this crap.
'" a threat to international order and world peace"
Dont know what to make of the historical knowledge of WaPo?
First WW1 ? Was it preceded by mass thereat to Jewish life?
Wars in between 1800 and 1900 in Europe ? Did it?
Ownership of the landscape changed hands in Latin America,Phillipines,Hawai between 1800 and 1900 with mass famine,death,and social upheaval and in the same period of time Bengal of India saw 2 famines . Obviously WaPo does not count them as pivotal moment in the history of human destruction of other human beings . To make world safe for Jewish people from European pogrom , Europe ended up with mass murders in Iraq,Palestine,and Syria not that long ago. Has it ensured the world order?. I dont blame a Zionist for sculpting a picture made of religion,emotion,and entitlement and plenty of stupid assertions that have no meanings beyond those words in which they are written. But WaPO is this what you tout as enlightened understanding of political problems.?
Essential ideas of article could have been written by somebody in 500 AD asking for special treatment of the world Jewry on the basis of otherwise inexplicable claim of being "chosen people of God" and a "light unto the world". As the words and sentences in this article rely on uniqueness of Jewish experiences to justify suspension of all rules ,morality,and common sense , it is very much possible those ideas of choseness was manufactured exclusively to gain advantages over the surrounding natives .Today people will laugh over this claim but nuances help the Zionist conceal the concept under the guise of a different zeitgeist and carry on the business of creating a monster out of every obstacle it faces to its entitlement.There is no need to reflect for that will expose the inner demons we all carry in our mind.
anmcbride says:
September 22, 2012 at 11:43 am
Likud Zionists will succeed in consolidating Greater Israel and violently expelling most or all Palestinians under the cover of a generalized global war between “the West” and Islam."
It is very much on the cards of the neocons but the way the war is currently shaping up between Islam and West it is unlikely that the west can maintain the momentum to its economic and political advantage. It might end up like England begging US to bail itself out but where US will turn to? US economic and political powers underpins the Israeli economic and political powers.US decline will enhance or even precipitate Israeli decline. Now Israel will have all the lands but it might end up a prisoner of its making. Without effective US support for Israel , other countries might start offering all kind of weapons including nukes to Israeli adversaries. Life will not be fun to be an Israeli citizen. Israel's Massada/Samson complex will only get more extreme but the diaspora will not risk their lives for the sake of Israel.
One state solution is actually going to work fro Jewish citizen more in the long run .It will provide them with the open opportunity of engaging in politics of wider Arab world in affecting the economic and civic lives and inserting themselves in powerful positions of different administrations of different Arab countries. Arab will look more and more like 18th-19th century Europe.
This site has promoted an open discussion that is unprecedented and is extremely important but it could not have happened without Philip Weiss and without his wife standing behind him.
thanks
"Famed attorney Alan Dershowitz, former Canadian Justice Minister Irwin Cotler, Nobel laureate Elie Wiesel"
These three should be responsible for any attacks on civilians anywhere by MEK. They should not be treated any differently than Anwar Al waki had been.
Bush not that long ago told the world "We don't differentiate between those who support terrorism and who harbor them". Israel found a loophole .One can rent one . Was not Abu Nidal rented by Israel and was blamed for being a pet crony of Saddam?
With such a history and universal forgetfulness of dumb Americans, any terror activity of this group will met likely be blamed on long expired Saddam if Iraq needed to be reminded who is the sheriff in town or on Iran .Eli Wesiel will hold the hand of US president to soothe any moral issue with the credentials of a holocaust survivor the way he held Bush Jr's to attack Iraq . The moral dilemma has always been with Zionist how to make the world accept two contrasting-opposing concepts same time .They have chosen always to ignore the morality .Once that area is resolved by noticing that their is no outcry from those who matter,any other concern like legality or impropriety is no longer an issue that can stop them in their tracks. Eli Wesiel at least twice , first time in denying any proportional victimhood to Gypsy and then to Naqba survivors confirmed it. His war mongering in the service of the neocons is perfectly aligned with his rotten but glorified moral compass
MEK has been raising money for sometime now. Where is the money coming form? Is it US money sent to Israel as aid and grant that then was routed to back to US to pay for the lobbyist?
Or do they have legit income from legit sources?
Kathleen
Can you post the link please?
Will MEK do something violent and the blame will be passed to Iran with the same eagerness by the same diehard neocons generating same effects that Iraqis came to enjoy for 10 years ? Who will replace Iraq in that new "Axis of Evil" ? Will it be our Israel-averse friend Pakistan?
Most likely they will claim MEK was always a front organization of the mullah and US was taken for a long ride by a rogue outfit of Mehdi Army Chances are that the neocons will offer the sacred space at Weekly Standard and FOX to some Terror experts and Islam experts to remind US that the "problem is not with Islam but is with the Islam itself"
Now Evangelics can claim that their affairs are not just about advancement of Christian ideology only .Better still,they can claim that it has noting to do with Christianity if they could rope in H. Ali .
He can claim he never had anything to do with politics given his contribution to the success of two warmongers of two different political parties.
I guess when Friedman was angrily lamenting the absence of Arab/Iran/Muslim outrage at and condemnation of 911 perpetrators ,he got his information from the Israeli sources which was focusing on dancing Palestinians and was hiding the comments of Nathayahoo He did not offer a mea culpa even when Juan Cole documented the widespread condemnation across Arab and Iran and beyond from religious and secular leaders. Friedman's passion would not have been served emotionally and factually during those turbulent times by the public stances of backward muslim countries. He gets his feed from the bottom of the barrel of dishonesty .One of them is MEMRI
Iran is praying for disappearance for Israel from the map or time like US prayed for disappearance of USSR only with more active support. At least Iran is not seeking death and mutilations of Israeli Jewish like the Israeli friends Evangelics are praying and hoping for but not keeping themselves limited to passive wishes only . Meanwhile Israel has done enough direct and indirect damages to Iran that in a more fair world would have seen the disappearance of Israel. Israel is asking the cop shoot him and is calling the cop to be both suicidal and homicidal .
"Undoubtedly, just like Iranian state TV, who mistranslated its own President. I"
Could you please be more specific? You may not want to go there.
Can you cite an article about non violent protest by Palestinians against Israel that MEMRI has produced in an approving way?
Can you cite any article by Press TV that Friedman has quoted to lend support to accusation of crimes against humanity by Israel or calm the water a little over the hysteria about Iranain nuke?
By the way,Press TV does talk of human right violations in Bahrain and Saudi Arab and in Afghanistan or Myanamar.
Withdraws Defamation Suit
"Terror" Slut Steve Emerson Eats Crow (Just for Starters)
CounterPunch Wire
Self-styled "terrorism expert" Steven Emerson has filed for dismissal of a multi-million-dollar defamation suit against a Florida newspaper and its senior editor. The "notice of voluntary dismissal" (Case No. 00-03739) filed in the Circuit Court in and for Hillsborough County, Fla., states: "Plaintiff Steven Emersonherewith serves notice of his dismissal of this action, without prejudice, against defendants John Sugg and The Weekly Planet, Inc."
"This lawsuit did not have any merit, and I believe it was filed in bad faith to deter us and others from telling the truth about Emerson. I think that 'pseudo-journalist' is a perfect description for Steven Emerson," said Sugg, currently senior editor of Creative Loafing in Atlanta, Ga. Sugg added: "We reported the truth. In four years of litigation, Emerson has been unwilling or unable to come up with any evidence that what we reported was false. Now that we were close to forcing him to back up his claims, he has run away."
Emerson's lawsuit alleged that Sugg, then senior editor of Florida's Weekly Planet newspaper, "maliciously and repeatedly published false and defamatory utterances" in an "ongoing campaign to undermine Emerson's credibility and damage his professional and personal reputation." Emerson sought one million dollars in actual damages and ten million dollars in punitive damages on each of three causes of action.
The complaint centered on allegations reported by Sugg that two Associated Press reporters said Emerson gave them a document on terrorism supposedly from FBI files: "One reporter thought he'd seen the material before, and in checking found a paper Emerson had supplied earlier containing his own unsupported allegations. The two documents were almost identical, except that Emerson's authorship was deleted from the one purported to be from the FBI. 'It was really his work,' one reporter says. 'He sold it to us trying to make it look like a really interesting FBI document.'" (Weekly Planet, May 1998) In that same article, Sugg quoted AP reporter Richard Cole saying: "'We were not really clear on the origin of his [Emerson's] material.' Because of that, Cole recalls, much of Emerson's information was sliced from the series." (Cole was the lead writer of a 1997 AP series on terrorism.)
The lawsuit also disputed allegations that Emerson gave false information to a Senate subcommittee during testimony in 1998. In an article headlined "Ties to Spies?" Sugg wrote: "In a missive submitted to a U.S. Senate subcommittee in February, Emerson stated that a federal lawman and other authorities in 1995 told him 'radical Islamic fundamentalists had been assigned to carry out an assassination of me. An actual hit team had been dispatched...' Emerson claimed the authorities said he could probably 'get permission to enter the Witness Security Program' "After I sent Emerson's document to the Justice Department's Terrorism and Violent Crimes Section, this on-the-record response was made by spokesman John Russell on May 5.
"'You pushed the right button asking about your friend Steve Emerson,' Russell said. 'We've never given any thought to putting him in the witness protection program.' Is there any truth to the allegation of an assassination team? 'No, none at all,' Russell responded."
In documents filed with the court, Emerson said he was "notified by U.S. government officials in 1995 of a death threat against him."
Emerson is best known for his controversial 1994 PBS production "Jihad in America." Muslims say he has a long history of defamatory and inaccurate attacks on the Islamic community in this country.
link to counterpunch.org
This was reported in mondoweis.net ( constant presence of Israel in the mind of the neoocns)
I came across the same in an article in counterpunch.com
"On March 2, 2007 Retired General Wesley Clark, former Supreme Commander of NATO forces, and 2004 Democratic contender for the presidency, appeared on Amy Goodman’s televised program Democracy Now. In the interview he revealed that shortly before the invasion of Iraq a highly placed Pentagon officer divulged a secret plan to him to overthrow the governments of seven countries-Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran. Speaking in San Francisco the following October Clark repeated this and added commentary about a conversation he had in 1992 with Paul Wolfowitz, a prime architect of George W. Bush’s policies, who at the time was number three in the Defense department. Quoting Wolfowitz Clark said: “One thing we learned [in the Persian Gulf War] is that we can use our military in the region- in the Middle East- and the Soviets won’t stop us. And we’ve got five or ten years to clean up those old Soviet regimes – Syria, Iran, Iraq- before the next superpower comes along to stop us." By
Paul Atwood , Interim Director of the William Joiner Center for the Study of War and Social Consequences, and faculty in the American Studies Department, University of Massachusetts-Boston, and member of the Smedley Butler Brigade, the Boston chapter of Veterans for Peace. http://www.counterpunch.com 9/21/12
Israel has never been a docile client handing over its core interest to US.Kennedy could not stop it nukes, Carter had to drag Israel to peace process and Carter was finished in 2 years . Reagan was lied openly and malevolently . Bush 1st was kicked out of office, Clinton was sabotaged with plants and by media. Bush 2nd was told effectively not to try to settle I-P issue for peace could run only through Baghdad. Israel killed American citizen every decade with impunity It has stolen trade secretes, it has infiltrated upper echelon of of US civil and military decision making process. Justice department from the times of Fullbright in 60s have declined to investigate crimes committed by Israel
It has mobilized US public with monopoly over what gets out as news to sway public opinion to its favor.It presents itself as an election issue in a way that makes sure that the only option is left for the candidate is to support Israel .The ideas that promote and maintain an open democracy have been misused by Israeli supporters
Israeli opponent in an age of secularism have been demonized mystically and with religious fervor with no dissent or discussion allowed within and outside the administration or media. People of politics,media,academia,literature daring to raise question have been silenced or simply removed .
America sells military arsenals of all kind to Israel but they are often free or paid by US money indirectly and come with no strings attached. America can sell those stuff to another country with more oversight and upfront cash. US has no problem to do so with China, India, Brazil, S Africa or Poland but in ME, Israel has told US that US should tell Israel and its ME friends that the balance will always remain in Israel's favor.
Democracy is anathema to any hegemon including to US but it has always manged to adapt to new developments whether the issue is in in Vietnam,Phillipines,or Brazil or China or Myanamar. We did not see that over Iraq or Iran or Syria or Somalia.America has never pressurized so blatantly and aggressively UN IAEA , European countries India,Russia or ME allies to safeguard primarily Israeli interest at a cost to its own.It has not been voluntary .Behind the scene has been the loud media diatribes and quiet administrative machination by the lobby. Just look at current situation on Iran or the past post election reneging on Hamas. Prior to 911 the muslim anger against US was limited among some fanatics .Muslim anger about mostly Palestine and the anger was still mostly against Israel. Using 911 generated fear and manipulating the pivotal points of US society, Israel has been able to deflect that anger from itself and make it focus on US , a development that could not happened without those "25 geniuses" Mr Friedman had referred to in an unguarded moment of optimism and hubris.
If it were the voluntary and informed choice of the US we would be lying to ourselves
"The top advisers around the president (Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al.) saw an opportunity and presumed it would be a turkey shoot. "
The opportunity was created by the media and the money that control the gates of the media with shutting those down who opposed the wars on the grounds advocated by war mongers.
What was Cheny's gain or Rumsfield when they had a better more robust opportunity to go after ,and seize the oil,and control the country with much less sceptisim or opposition in 1991?
What changed? Who changed? During those years it was PNAC mebers and the media who ignored the effects of sanctions, who constantly referred to Iraq as threat to US interest ,asked the country to attcak the country from 1996 and put pressures and inserted bills in the Congress on a piece of napkin provided by AIPAC ,and who made sure anybody looking for jobs in the executive brancehs or legislative branches have right kind of credentials i.e 1- What will you do to remove threat from Iraq as if that were the most pressing issue Governemnt in terms of threat was facing. Thye also threw out Arabist form also in Hollywood and in TV soap opera.
Cheney changed and he could not have prevented that self -mutation without being judged as ineffective, weak, or being exposed for some hidden things in his career or facing problems with exposre in his business delaings with oil whcih then could have been used by AIPAC as the reason he did not wbat to uposet the appale-cart. Bu going with the gangs , he achieved another term in vice presidency and god knows only what more.
Though we focus on Iraq, for Israel any war in ME between US and ME conutry was desirable. iraq happened to ahve been demonized enough and could be cited ad libitum by the media liars as the devil trying to kill Bush father or setting Israel on flame or the raesons that US public will fall for and accecpt an Isarel knew that a war would lead to destabilization the one tyhey really wnated for gaining advantage over Palestine. Micheal Ledeen opnely talked about " "CREATIVE DESTRUCTION" where CRAETION was for Israel AND DESTRUCTION WAS for Arab the war mongers made sure that there woudl be no democarcy and no post invasion paln to stabilize the counyrty . This is why their demads that US move to other countries after Iraq.
911 did not offer an oppertunity.It was manufactured by media and the peoeple who cntrolled the media .They could have asked right questions ,demanded solid honest investiagtions and questioned the prudence of war against "Axis of Evil" No they did not. They promoted it and they suppressed or diverted any
clue showing Israeli angle or governemnt's failures.
Benjamin Netanyahu, September 12, 2002:
"Today the United States must destroy the same regime because a nuclear-armed Saddam will place the security of our entire world at risk."
Mr Professor
Can you help us understand why this is not incitement to Genocide according to your arguments on the statements of Iranian leaders?
That guy from Israel get to dictate what US should do to Iran to prevent Iranian from destroying Israeli regime( according to Israeli explanations that whats Iran had said.There is no debate about what Yahooooo was saying ).
There is a slow genocide going on in WB and GAZA. Have you got any scholar from that part on board? Does World have to ask Israel or its firster if genocide is going on in Gaza? Did world ask Germany or [its firtser ] Italy if genocide was going in Germany administered areas?
Calling a country cancerous is no different from calling a country as genocidal or suicidal or irrational .
Israel demanded wars [ destruction of] against Syria, Lebanon,Libya,Iran,Somalia after Iraq was taken care, Now don hide behind the nuances of between war and destruction. No country has ever been destroyed not even Germany or Japan after WW2 neither Vietnam But they including Iraq all come pretty close. Israel wants to impose same fate obviously on Iran.
Anti Jewish slurs or Mein Kampf was not the reason world went to screw Germany. Free speech come in many forms ugly and horrible as Muslims found out recently and had over Park 51, Obsession Video and over numerous clippings of FOX news or in the ugly anti muslim statements of Congressmen/Women from NY,MN,and Florida or from Geller/Spencer /Horowitz/Pipes/Gaffney . They did incite though a few people who went out to kill in Norway and in Wisconsin and launch threatening demonstration against muslims in England . They also do soften people's mind not to question when lie based information is used to attack country like Iraq . Incitement also comes from all those letter head organizations who want to "stop Iran". Who needs slurs when same result can be achieved by using ideas like democracy and human rights or words like threat or holocaust-denier?
The threat to remove food from the mouth of Iranian babies is still quite popular from not suicidal or not irrational and not messianic Israeli firsters in this country. Removing food kills , just for a reminder , in case Prof does not know.
GHStanton the Professor says 'For Iranian leaders’ statements against Jews since 1979,"
Before for us to see that , World should open the files of collaboration between SAVAK and Israel and mete out the necessary justice to Israel for crimes agaisnt huanity.
Mr Prof wants Canada and ICC to help with issue of incitement. Good!Lets start it at home here in US.
29 or so PNAC members who manged to sneak into Bush administration should also be held responsible ,accountable and be sentenced to hard labor incarceration for knowingly lying,inciting,massaging news and information and ignoring the intelligence with the purpose of killing Iraqis in the name of removing Saddam over the manufactured lies of terrorism and WMD.The same rogue elements who are agitating for war against Iran nuclear activities should be held accountable and a court should be asked to decide how this incitement to mass murder is any different to the mass murder and purposeful destruction of life-maintaining infrastructures we have seen in Iraq or in Dar Yassien/Sabra Shatila or Rwanda other than in a scale of million times magnitude. It is not an argument to say we could not prosecute the nefarious Israeli over Sabra -Shatila and so we should let this go as well and "move forward".
Prof reminds the world-
"Intentional destruction, in whole or in part, of a national group is genocide"
The things that Israel did in Lebanon and Gaza and promising more.
"I am completely opposed to Israel going to war with Iran, and said so at the lecture.
Instead what I advocated is a new approach to deterring genocide: getting a country that is a State-Party to the Genocide Convention such as Canada to bring a dispute with Iran to the International Court of Justice in the Hague for violation of the Genocide Convention’s Article 3b, which makes it a crime to directly and publicly incite genocide against another national, ethnic, religious or racial group. The case does not have to wait until actual killing. Incitement is a crime in itself."
That same argument put forward by Israeli firsters about issuing demands and passing laws against to Iraq so that US does not have to go war against Iraq in 1990 and as soon as soon the warnings were issued and bill was passed the same people demanded that we should go to war otherwise our standing would suffer and we would be perceived as weak and Iraq would keep on marching like Hitler [ He always come so handy.
The idea of incitement comes so handy also . Easily provable when ADL sits down with Google and spells it out and the next thing you know the video and Facebook postings are removed. ]
Now the author has already implied that there is an incitement going on [ like Iranian nukes activities .it is sure ,certain,and running.Iran has to prove it has no intention or knowledge of any nuclear designs or science or has no activity.Now Iran has to prove it has no intention to incitement and prove what it is doing is not incitement.].
Iran is now in the cross hair .So the next move from Prof , will be "what we are waiting for? If we don't do something our prestige and power and legitimacy will suffer"
BTW Mr Prof is anybody using your language asking for similar treatment for Israel from any US university?
Oops ! They have been purged and shown the door long ago after being identified as 5th columns by Liberman and Co in Campus Watch. See what war based on lies can achieve .It promotes next war under same tried duplicity.
Classification- Jews and Gentiles
Jews and animals , beasts ( Arab)
Symbolization- Israel is Zion. Zionism is not racism .Zionist care for Israel. Israel is a country for the Jewish of the world . Non Jewsih can move to other countries. Too much population explosion of non Arabs will not preserve the state .Arabs are not part of Zion.
Dehumanization - Israel ( including its extension in the West ) refers to muslims as rogue,terrorist,non democratic,murderers , "they hate Jews more than they love their children ",believe in a creed that is anti western .Israeli supporter ( Friedman ) believe Arab neighborhood need to be shaken [ what a choice of language! Bombing someone to stone age is like shaking a tree so that ripe fruit of western pro Israeli democracy just drop to the ground ]. Israelis call Iranian Amlek
Organization- Open like MEK and covert like Jundullah or Abu Nidal at the Zio service for last 30 odd years and counting.
Polarization- Banning Palestine leaders, banning Israeli - Arab leaders, disallowing freedom of movement of scholars and students in occupied land
Banning NAM to visit WB , Banning protests of Palestine ,punishing Gazan for exercising democratic rights killing international protesters to occupation and to blockade , marking the roads for Jewish only , marking the water supply for Jewish only,
Preparation- Israel not only has nukes. It will use against the rest of the world if its interest is threatened even against the people like Europeans who have done nothing against the state of Israel. Israel has offered nukes to other rogue regime like SA.
Extermination- Land without people is for the people without the land. Expel the landed native. Deny that expulsion happened .Tell they left voluntarily. The remaining Palestine came after Israel was created and should go back to Jordan or Arab in general.
Kill the scientist, maintain the sanction and see if an war can be fomented between Iran and someone like West. Tell we will nuke them , we will we will we will!!!! There is this red line always creeping inside! Tell America we wont sit down and listen to your silence . we want to destroy Iranian nukes ( yes there will be civilian casulty but listen to this author in Wa Po "what will be life like in Tel Aviv after an attack on Iran" not life in Iran!! BTW we are not saying we will kill and destroy Iranian people as Iranian are saying they will to us , but it can happen but that is not our purpose.You see the difference. We have noble purpose of stopping Hitler ,the one with Little moustache and Big "H"). Extermination can be achieved slowly by the blockade and the putting the whole population on a diet and it can be and has been achieved by friends in high places like in London,Paris and in Washington in Iraq. can be repeated in Iran. [ Oops! it has to reach 5 millions in 5 years.Otherwise the application to genocide will be denied . ]
Denial- They attacked us in 1967, 1982,1996,2006,2009.
And the gleeful orgastic body contours with silent acknowledgement of cyber attacks and assassination of scientist,leaders,and international youth protesters! in addition to putting the whole population on a diet!
Professor
Those Israeli chants "Death to Arabs" still echoing in West bank along with burning of mosques and Koran and shredding of Bible and Olive trees. Yes "Death to Arab" is the frequent en mass expression of Jewish solidarity against the original and native people of Palestine.
Have you forgot those words " We will break the every bones 'of Arabs] by Rabin?
Have you forgot those words from Israeli leaders ( secular and religious ) that Arabs are animals,cockroaches,beasts and 2 legged animal?
This is Israeli argument.We don't buy. World does not buy for there are plenty of reasons world does not buy . Israel lied about 1956 war,1967 war,1982 war 1996 war and 2006 war and 2009 . It may sound antisemitic but we just don't buy the lies that come out of Israel and its 5th columns here in West.
Professor Stanton
There is nothing to destroy .It is already destroyed . Now mop it up and expel and tell the world that there is no destruction of people.
Do you get it?
"The land without people for the people without land "with that creed and canard those thugs descended on Palestine and went to systemitically expel the Arabs from Palestine?
Oh!! they were not destroyed . Apparently that is not genocide.! So it is less of a crime! that's why Israel should not be punished .Since this is not that grave a crime Israel should be allowed to continue and Israel should never be sanctioned,divested or attacked by UN led mission, never!! Mr professor when did it become acceptable that killing someone without any reason will bring death penalty or life imprisonment but kidnapping and torturing or starving wont invite any penalty?
That is the precursor to Genocide .Hitler wanted Jewish people and Gypsy just go somewhere. Israel wants its original inhabitant go somewhere or die a slow death with humiliation and pain.
BTW Israel "we could destroy parts of Lebanon and Gaza"
I see it is Part ! The word "Part"of Lebanon or Gaza .Not the whole.!!
Professor if the world identified and stopped those thugs like Ben Guiron and Herzl and Weizman when they said one thing and meant another word to their gentile friends and foes ( to them they were same and easily interchangeable between righteous gentile and antisemitic at the accidental drop of a dime minted by Zionist )would have been a lot better place.
The only skill the British news papers have are in syn with the only skill British politician have.They work together and in tandem. Recidivism is not the word to decribe their behaviors This is only skill they have.They never been to rehab.
THis is from Ynet-
"But we mustn't forget that at the beginning of his term Obama declared that in terms of numbers the US was "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world," and, speaking to the Turkish parliament, Obama conveyed his "deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world - including in my own country." The American president bowed before Saudi King Abdullah and spoke of the monarch's wisdom and generosity. He also visited Egypt, where he praised the "holy Koran," which "tells us, 'Be conscious of God and speak always the truth.
In light of these statements, it is easy to understand why Obama chose to condemn the "disaster" of expanding a balcony in Gilo and the authorization of additional construction in Ramat Shlomo, just as it easy to explain his considerable efforts to force Israel to cede all its territorial assets – including those in the heart of its capital. These declarations can also explain his decision to "shred" George W. Bush's promise to Ariel Sharon regarding the settlement blocs.
In general, Obama is becoming more Palestinian than the Palestinians by demanding that Israel halt all construction beyond the Green Line as a precondition for renewing peace talks" link to ynetnews.com.
Thi is the Op-Ed from a leading newspaper.When it comes to Israel/Neoocns ,first thing that goes under the bus [not Jewish peopel as Mitt claimed earlier ] is the socratic dialogue and the things that emerge from under the sewer is this kind of sophistry.
THis is from Ynet-
"speaking to the Turkish parliament, Obama conveyed his "deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world - including in my own country." The American president bowed before Saudi King Abdullah -- he praised the "holy Koran," which "tells us, 'Be conscious of God and speak always the truth.
In light of these statements, it is easy to understand why Obama chose to condemn the "disaster" of expanding a balcony in Gilo and the authorization of additional construction in Ramat Shlomo, just as it easy to explain his considerable efforts to force Israel to cede all its territorial assets – including those in the heart of its capital. These declarations can also explain his decision to "shred" George W. Bush's promise to Ariel Sharon regarding the settlement blocs.
In general, Obama is becoming more Palestinian than the Palestinians by demanding that Israel halt all construction beyond the Green Line as a precondition for renewing peace talks"
link to ynetnews.com
We can understand why people want to focus on speeches and ignore the actions of public figures .Worse when action is not followed as demanded by AIPAC/JINSA/ADL/AEI/FOX/WSJ, the speech is presented as evidences of
being a cryptomulsim and antiIsrael ( Obama ) or anti peace terrorist antisemitie ( Arafat ) or alternatively as being a great statesman ( Cheney,Blair ,Bush,Sarkozy,Harper ) when the demands are met .
No Gilad , you should listen Israeli news in Hebrew and see teh face it hides from US by using English.
Read Palestine papers from Guardain and from Al Zajeera.
Annie -then there is the Palestine papers that came out in Guardian news paper last year showing feckless Palestine leaders were genuflecting everyday to get sometihng from Israel to show that they were trying while agreeing to every demads from Israel ,only to be rebuffed and ridiculed and assailed by Israeli elders. You can never satisfy a beast.
I ahve told you gilad before and I will repeat this - -According to Israel Palestinians /Arabs/Iraianians are saying very very bad things( against Israel ), while the truth is that Israel is actually doing those very very bad things( against Palestinians and Iranians ).
Mitt Romeny will like to hand over ME foreign policy to Israel. He wants to mount attack on Iran. Now he does not beleive in any pressure on Israel to make peace with Palestine. He goes to Adelson for money and he come to Isreal for money. Adelson has only one demand - make Israel safe by bombing Iran and denying Palestine satehood on WB. Mitt does not belive in Palestine righst on WB . The Obama's Jewish supporters are withholding money for 1-not being tough on Iran
2-for being tough on Isreal
3for making demnads on Israel despite sanctions after sanctions, attack after attack against muslim countries and shutting off Palestine from any discussion from the war of 2009 to until now and money after money showered on israel by Obama along with veto in UN for Israel.
and they use the foil that Obama is not business friendly enough to hide their desire and discontent
Mitt is proud of having Israeli centric players in his adminstartion who has close connection to Isarel at many levels. Some of them have worked for Bush Jr and been involved with PNAC and been identified by reporters for obstructing CIA's focus on Al Quida
The whole Republican campaign was an exercise in hatred and anger at muslims, Arabs and Iran .
- I guess its al ot for US public to digest and synthesize. An Antisemitism charge wont fly out of israel-neocon house to smear one who describes these facts, but a simple summary of these developments saying that Mitt's campaign is infested with same neocns who pushed for iraq war are now pushing Mitt to get elected and then to attck Iran will be termed as hate camapign of antisemitism!
Maureen Dowd just found that out.
From -NPR "NPR Politics8:08 PM - PublicThe presidential campaign of Mitt Romney has weathered several difficult days in a row. Last week, conservatives criticized Romney for remarks he made about unrest in Libya and Egypt. Over the weekend, a story in Politico revealed internal sniping within the Romney high command. On Monday the Romney campaign vowed to get back to substance. But their efforts may be thwarted by an article on the website of Mother Jones, which contained excerpts from a video secretly recorded at a Romney fundraiser, in which he disparaged supporters of President Obama" link to npr.org
And no mention of Israel or neoocns or Ntahhayoo!! Did I miss something.
Another exapmle of distraction and obfuscation or may be simply the exercise of freedom of expression with right to remain silent.
"I have a very good team of extraordinarily experienced"
I think Bush said something of that nature while speaking at AEI [ I have stolen best of the best from your organization or You have provided this adminsitration with the most experinced public servants]
It did not turn out well even for him .He was blamed for Iraq debacle by these very brains who went out to claim that he did not listen to them.
911 unfolded the rage here in the West killing Sikhs and hurling bombs to mosques and manufacturing Sharia controveries and a lot more.
Back then the rage urged to convert the muslims and rage the Mecca to the grounds. Back then the rage told Rumsfiled that he would drain the swamps. Collective rage also allowed his stupid and illegal idea of waging wars against Iraq on the basis of having good targets go unchallenged. It was the collective rage that allowed Frum to coin that sinsiter phrase of "Axes of Evil"with disatrous effects on humanity . He now lectures on CNN how to bring freedom of expression in muslim lands conveneintly forgetting how he would have smothered anybody who would have dared to challenge his pathetic purpose-driven lies .As for Nathayoo so was for him 911 was not bad. he got a chance to direct emotions to those countries that Natanhyoo like him did not like . Rage can bring miraculous opportunity for some Just watch Mc Cain or other warmongers on FOX.
Lying is freedom but rebuttal is shown the door with vengeance. A war monger like Barak and Nathanhoo get a free pass in the name of freedom of expresiion and freedom of media but one never hears what the other side has to offer or explain.
The glorious rage began in 1857 against British over the introduction of beef and pork in the food of theIndian soldiers but it was not about the food.It was about what British wrought to that part of the world from 1750s to 1850s. The rage that followed Rodney King was not about that particular police brutality. It was about the daily experience of every black.
Yes Ali
Rage is bad. The rage that swallowed up one million lives in Iraq and threw away one million lives as destitute in foreign lands and would create one million deformed babies following 911.
You may not remember Ali when the free world leader informed " We dont make distinction between who are terrorist and who harbour them " .Very soon they will be called victims of collateral damages.See what words can do .It can unmask barbarity like it did in Libya and it can mask barbarity as the FOX and WSJ and NYT have done over the years
May be Ali you can travel to a mosque in Pakistan and hear a raging sermon and compare its effects to that of every lies that have come out of your favorite media back then and continues to day.This time against Iran with chilling effects on innocent human beings like the one on you only on a larger scale .
yonah fredman says "it’s legal and it will continue for the foreseeable future."
I fully agree with this. But internet has blurred the boundaries and laws of the nation may not apply to another country which might have a diffent law about freedom of expression.Also Google has every right not to remove the video but how on earth a comapny with business all over the world can say that the some videos on Holocaust are of bad taste and then removes them?
"But as the Jewish Press reported on August 1, Google had no problem removing 1,710 videos and closing their affiliated accounts because “A substantial number of those videos concerned Holocaust denial and defense of Holocaust deniers.” According to the newspaper report, Google “closed the user’s account within 24 hours” of receiving the complaint by a group that monitors anti-Semitism in Australia.
In July 2011, Facebook was pressured by Israeli authorities to close the accounts of many Palestinian activists. Israel complained that the activists were coordinating their plans to travel to Israel and cause disruptions. In reality, the activists were trying to make a strong political statement online. Needless to say, the Israeli government could have easily rescinded any visas it might have issued to these activists or prevented any person from entering the country had they actually traveled. There was no call for incitement or violence by the activists to justify closing their accounts." Counterpunch Sept 14th.
Freedom expression is either absolute or relative. It can not be both. The same applies to the Danish papers ( periodcals ) that publsihed the Muslim prophets cartoon but it cant calim freedom as reason after declining to pubslih some cartoon on Jesus Christ same month.
One cant dictate what will be dear to ones heart or what figures or what historical facts or opinion one want to hold in high esteem free form any intellecrual or cartoonish assault. Either we honor or we dont honor.
Denis
Without some of these "jewish people" we would not have a platform today. to question Israel or neoocns.
What did Israel do to get Jewish people out of Iraq?
Answear-What they had in mind to get Jewish peopel out of Iran as recent as 2006- with promises of 20-40,000 dollars and free house . But the Iranain Jewish did not fall for it.
On another vein -Did Isarel-neoocns drive Iraq war? Answear -Look at who are driving ethwars against Iran ( yes there is a war going on mounted by Israel ).It all started same way.
Watch out and act now for somethimg might happen. Keep quiet over same thing as that is happening and has happened before. In this Likud centric world, words are more powerful than the accomplished deeds that those very words may or may not cause in the future.
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Colin , it took me a while to locate this article.
Sorry for the delay.It was in LA Times March 25th 2010
"To cite just one example of many, in July 2006 a plaque was unveiled in Jerusalem's King David Hotel honoring the men of the Irgun terrorist group who bombed the hotel in 1948, killing 92 people. In response, the British ambassador to Israel issued a statement declaring, "We do not think that it is right for an act of terrorism, which led to the loss of many lives, to be commemorated." Among those attending the ceremony honoring the mass murderers was Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. One of the perpetrators of the crime was on hand to provide guided tours."
link to articles.latimes.com
Not so long ago ( 2008 ) King David hotel held a memorial for those killed in the terrorist attacks by Stern gang , a Jewish nazi-supporting outfit of 19040s. It chose the wrong person .It recognized and remembered only one person. He was one of the terrorist killed along with western diplomats who went unmentioned . Those fanatics have the nukes and they will use it against the West as scholar (US)and military analyst(Israel) have warned the West but in a way that justifies the use of those nukes .