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Career Military Officer. Returned Peace Corps Volunteer. Did the Peace thing first, then the War thing. Peace is better

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  • Coulter's point is that Republicans pander on Israel to win donors, not voters
  • The day after 9/11, Kagan father-son duo said 'take the war' to Palestine
    • Never let a crisis go to waste. My goodness, these folks are sick. Incredible they still get column space as credible observers.
      Why hasn't Ms. Nuland been fired from State?

  • Michael Oren misrepresents 1971 synagogue bombing that changed his life
    • Oren is just sad. If he should choose to commit revisionist crimes upon history regarding Israel, his adopted country, that's his business. But I refuse to be passive while he revises my history. I understand why he got his ass kicked as a kid, and it wasn't because of him going to church the wrong day of the week

  • In rebuke to Israel, State Dep't says it has no objection to BDS aimed at occupation
    • Congress was informed of the objection to the language including the settlements and the legal rationale why DoS would object. They went ahead anyway.
      I never saw any debate on this on cspan.

  • Latest Netanyahu cartoon says west is allowing ISIS to build 'atomic bombs' aimed at US and Christianity
  • 'Jewish cow' is udderly superior to all other cows in the world, Netanyahu says
  • Foreign direct investment in Israel dropped by 50% in 2014 and expert says it's due to the Gaza war and BDS (Updated)
  • Cycles of violence only begin when Palestinians kill Israelis
    • This story isnt hanging together. the hikers were supposed to coordinate visits to the spring with the IDF. They didn't. They said they stopped for a Palestinian hitchhiker. That just doesn't happen these days. mayber 20 years ago. Feels like a drug hit.

  • The living martyr, a visit to the Bakr family in Gaza
    • Lysias, I tried to track that down without success. Contemporary reports are conflicting. The recently completed investigation exonerating IDF from wrongdoing did not publicly disclose if the fires were air or surface. I suspect the IDF is withholding that information to avoid providing information that could be used in identifying the responsible officers.

  • Israeli leader turns on US Jewish journalists Friedman, Wieseltier, Remnick and Silvers for disloyalty and anti-semitism!
  • Dershowitz spills the beans: Supreme Court's Jerusalem case impact on Iran deal
    • “The case should never have been brought,"

      Dersh is right on this one point. Strategically stupid.

      Does anyone doubt if the case were a very Pro Settlement President, and a two state leaning congress, who Dersh would argue for?

  • BDS could cost Israel $4.7 billion a year
    • Ironically, Israeli companies are divesting from the West Bank, Ahava, Israel Africa, Sodastream. There was a little controversy, but Israelis seem to accept it.

  • The peace process is 'a savior for war' -- Ari Shavit
    • The Settler bloc has pretty much said that they will bust the coalition if any restriction on the settlement enterprise is imposed.

  • Racism is in the air: Video showing racist exchange between Israelis and a flight attendant goes viral
  • No one's talking about peace in Israeli election, U.S. liberal Zionists are warned
    • Gorenberg's "Accidental Empire" seems to be well done history of the Occupation, from the perspective of an Israeli, but good scholarship as far as I can judge.

  • 'She dedicated the whole of her young life to helping those in need of freedom, justice and peace': American hostage killed in Syria remembered for work in Palestine
  • Dear Mr. Netanyahu, please don't cancel your speech
  • Media coverage of Adelson's support for Christie leaves out Adelson urging Obama to nuke Iran
  • Chair of Democratic National Committee opposes Jewish intermarriage and MSNBC showing Gaza carnage
  • Lawrence Summers says BDS movement is 'persecuting' Israel
  • Netanyahu is a paper tiger
  • Shit dead rabbis say about gentiles
  • Independent investigation details Israel's deliberate targeting of civilians in Gaza
    • Israel's Awlaki says:

      "Therefore, during war the attacked people are allowed to punish the enemy population in any punishment it finds worthy, such as denying supplies or electricity and also to bomb the whole area according to the discretion of the army minister and not to just simply endanger soldier’s lives but to take crushing deterrence steps to exterminate the enemy."

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  • Netanyahu speech scandal blows up, and 'soiled' Dermer looks like the fall guy
  • State Dep't says Netanyahu speech is not inappropriate, disrespectful, humiliating or embarrassing
    • Lysias,

      After action reports are starting to dribble out. Narrative is IDF was on a fam tour with Givati company grade reinforcements or rotating replacement force in soft sided vehicles. There was an order to return to base, and they were hit by Kornet Spriggan ATGMs while queued at a checkpoint near Qunetra. Everybody doing the CYA hustle.

  • Former Obama aide's thinktank calls for 1/4 of French Jews to move to Israel
  • Occupier’s justice: heads and tails you lose
    • Kiryat Arba. Deep in the West Bank. Visit Kahane park, named after a famous terrorist, and across the Street from the much visited grave of Baruch Goldstein, responsible for a terror attack that killed 29 and wounded 124 Palestinians.

  • 'NYT' and Matthews warn that Netanyahu speech to Congress could lead US to war
  • Exhibit of iconic 1948 photos -- 'The Long Journey' -- opens today in NYC
    • Yes, a surprising bit of news. Abbas was in Russia signing the deal for developing the Gaza gas fields. It is not clear if any coordination with Israel occurred.

      Tony Blair's British Gas had the license, but Israel blocked the deal for years while they were trying to work out a formula that prevented revenues reaching the PA. BG finally gave up.

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      It is only fair, Israel granted licenses to a Dick Cheney company to explore parts of the Golan Heights for oil and gas.

  • Netanyahu speech could turn Israel lobby into a political football
    • Yup, Harry. The other 5 actors in the P5+1 want the sanctions to end, and will accept supervised enrichment and stepped up inspections, which Iran is offering. No way are we going to cut off trade with the other P5 nations with no good reason other than minor internal political noise. we didn't for Cuba. Nor should we.
      Israel wants an economically weak Iran, and see sanctions as a means to achieve that. Everyone knows Iran could have the bomb in weeks, if they don't already. The challenge is to remove or reduce Iran's incentive to deploy or use it. Integrating, not isolating Iran, into the International trade regime, is more likely to keep things quiet than sanctions.

    • The wheels are coming off this thing. Some historically Pro Israel Dem lawmakers pushed back on AIPAC surge on more sanctions last year and won. Pro Israel Republicans are getting more aggressive, and are losing. The large donor community is splitting, and is somewhat in disarray, Adelson and Wexner are going their own way, Republicans think they can pick up more by taking the harder line. Clinton supporters were lined up behind Livni, Repups are for Netanyahu, but both are damaged goods.

      At same time, this Epstein/Dershowitz and now Sheldon Silver scandals have shaken up the NYC philanthropic community, and they are very concerned that any escalation in Iran will blow back on the community.

  • In Iraq and Syria the US sanctions its allies while its friends back its enemies (got that?)
    • Too true. What baffles me is that by any objective standard, the 20 year old PNAC project has been a massive fail. But we haven't seen a shift of strategy, they just keep doubling down, and seeing catastrophe after catastrophe. A real failure of imagination, with untold costs in human suffering and geopolitical instability.

    • yup. Tectonic. Buckle up.

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    • Yeah. israel is going to have to decide to be a participant in the new stabilizing order, or to be a destabilizing element. It really doesn't matter, population or GDP wise which side they align with, pick one.

    • Milo Minderbinder's logic of war. Iran is the natural ally in shutting down ISIL. Time now for a workout of cutting up the pie, negotiate areas of influence between KSA and Iran and find and keep a new equilibrium. KSA shuts down its proxies, gets Egypt, Iran stays out of KSA and Gulf states, but gets Syria, Iraq and Lebanon. Russia is guarantor for Iran, US is Guarantor for KSA, Jordan, Egypt and Gulf states.

      A generation of regional stability.

  • Obama won't meet Netanyahu during 'bizarre,' 'historic,' 'unprecedented' visit (Updated)
    • This shit is going International. The convoy attack was in the Shebaa Farms area, claimed by Lebanon and occupied by Israel. The Rocket attack was in the Mount Hermon region, in the Golan, claimed by Syria, and occupied by Israel. Both areas are critical sources of ground water feeding Israel's supply.

      One UNIFIL observer killed.
      It drives me nuts to see the media show maps with these areas as "Israel", and the incidents as attacks on Sovereign Israeli territory. They are not.

    • Donor pressure, I imagine. Republican strategists and pollsters, Ron Dermer, Arthur Finkelstein, Frank Luntz, John Mclaughlin , are tightly integrated in Israel's electioneering for Likud and further right parties. Unsavory lot. Tough group, although I am surprised Finklestein still has a job, after his polling utterly failed in the last Israeli election, and in Obama's victory of Romney. He predicted Romney +4, and Likud/YB with 45 seats.

      Dermer was behind this latest genius move.

    • yeah Lysias, a very interesting unintended consequence. With potentially huge implications.

    • More crazy,

      an unnamed senior Israeli official accuses Obama admin of lying about Mossad warnings.

      link to

  • Living in Israel isn't the solution to antisemitism
    • Generalplan Ost, was another post war plan for Poland. Armed and walled clusters and islands of ethnically homogenous victors located near natural resources and industrial centers, connected by modern roads and rail restricted for use by the victors. What remained of the former inhabitants would be allowed to live, barely, as unskilled labor, but not to organize into a political entity. Enforced by merciless discipline, fear and intimidation.

    • Psst. Hops, Heinsbroek is Dutch=The Netherlands, not Deutschland. Close though.

  • Diaspora Jews are not in 'exile,' they are at home
    • Meanwhile, some religious leaders in Israel are saying not so fast on this French immigration thing.

      Rabbis: French aliyah will lead to assimilation
      Leading religious leaders voice concerns that French Jews' immigration will result in mixed marriages, cause religious Jews to stop observing mitzvot.

      The haredi press raised further concerns that many of the immigrants would refuse to undergo a conversion process or that the procedure would be conducted by institutions and courts which do not meet the strict standard, and that as a result their children will create mixed marriages later on.

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  • Can we just retire the phrase 'relative calm'?
  • Congress invites Netanyahu to rebut Obama on Iran, and White House slams 'breach of protocol'
    • AIPAC has its annual policy conference in DC at the same time, senior Israeli politicians generally attend. This year it looks like there will be a whole pack of them this year. Perhaps the president should invite all of the heads of Party lists to to meet with him at WH together, or separately. That would send a message and somewhat neutralize Netanyahu's electioneering boondoggle.

    • Wow. Menendez is pissed. Wheels are coming off this thing.

      But other US lawmakers in the delegation said they received conflicting messages from Israeli officials on the sanctions bill.

      “We met with a number of government officials from many different parts of the government. There’s not a uniform view there,” Republican John Barrasso said.

      Menendez, who has fiercely fought for his bill, and on Wednesday sharply criticized the Obama administration’s approach, was reportedly irked by the Mossad intervention, and contacted Israeli Ambassador to the US Ron Dermer for an explanation.

      Read more: Mossad said to warn US on Iran sanctions in break with PM | The Times of Israel link to
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    • interesting op-ed in today's paper.

      link to

      "It follows, therefore, that the State of Israel should think about the purpose of its foreign policy, which is connected to global values, find a new path and save its eroded legitimacy.

      It is up to the professionals of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to lead the process of adopting and designing a purpose, via consultations with intellectuals from a variety of fields and sectors – Jews and non-Jews, Arabs, men and women, religious and secular, from the center and the periphery.

    • The president should invite another head of state for a State a dinner on same date. maybe from a country the same size or smaller. The invite Netanyahu, but make him sit in the back.

  • Gaza war blowback? Palestinian stabs 13 on Tel Aviv bus.
    • Har Nof is very near the site of Deir Yassin. It is on lands outside the UNGA 181 partition plan that designates territories for the new Jewish state.

  • Virulent, violent verbal tactics reveal Dershowitz as a bully, says fellow Israel advocate
    • I can recommend several competent firms, if you are looking for yourself. I haven't encountered Torassian's firm, I don't know their track record. Who ever is managing Israel's PR should be sued for malpractice. But then again, they don't have much to work with.

    • dersh is a PR liability. Period.

  • Update: On MLK Day, lots of folks are talking Palestine
    • Bullshit.

      MLK on South Africa

      Our responsibility—our responsibility presents us with a unique opportunity: We can join in the one form of nonviolent action that could bring freedom and justice to South Africa, the action which African leaders have appealed for, in a massive movement for economic sanctions. In a world living under the appalling shadow of nuclear weapons, do we not recognize the need to perfect the use of economic pressures? Why is trade regarded by all nations and all ideologies as sacred? Why does our government and your government in Britain refuse to intervene effectively now, as if only when there is a bloodbath in South Africa—or a Korea or a Vietnam—will they recognize a crisis? If the United Kingdom and the United States decided tomorrow morning not to buy South African goods, not to buy South African gold, to put an embargo on oil, if our investors and capitalists would withdraw their support for that racial tyranny that we find there, then apartheid would be brought to an end.
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  • Mandela ad is pulled in L.A. following graffiti vandalism
  • To counter radical Islam, we must confront our own hypocrisy
    • I wouldn't presume to pre judge outcomes. I think you are right, bilateral negotiations are a dead end, so that leaves International mediation. An imposed solution that both sides are gonna hate. Which is the inevitable endgame, the only question is if there is another long and bloody conflict before a settlement is arrived at, or not.

    • Let's put this to rest. Sharia law in England is a current meme on right wing talkie devil box shows. The UK permits some aspects of family law (divorce, adoption, custody, inheritance) to be handled by religious courts, both Jewish and Islamic. But the participants can opt out any time, and the courts can not make any decisions that contravene UK law.

    • Nope, mediation is preferable to armed conflict or the current slow rolling genocide, for all parties. The occupation is killing Zionism.

    • I am gonna get shit for being a pollyanna, but the only alternative to armed conflict are mediation and resolution under some sort of International consensus. Utterly imperfect, but the alternatives are worse

    • I want to know who feels safer, because of this action. This is madness.

  • Palestinian Bedouin dies as Israeli police fire tear gas on funeral procession
    • It was the 8th such incident in less than a year. In light of this violation Syria could reasonably notify Israel that cease fire agreements are voided, and give 24 hours notice for Israel to evacuate non combatants from Israeli occupied Golan, as it is now a free fire zone.

  • Avraham Burg's Israeli vision, and French passport
    • The confederation idea was built into the UNGA 181 Partition plan, after 5 years, the Jewish and Arab states would have a referendum to confederate or not, and to decide the status of the Corpus Seperatum that included Jerusalem.

      At the time, it was judged that there was too much animosity between the parties for any hope of federation as part of a near term settlement, so separating them and allowing for a cooling off period seemed wise.

    • Burgs view is that Zionism (should have) ended when an independent Jewish state was established. When the objectives of Zionism were achieved. The next logical phase would have been nation building, not an imperialist adventure that endangers the gains of Zionism.

  • #JeSuisUnJuifBritannique
    • One is an Admiral right? John Paul something? Bonhomme Richard and all that? Or was that the Pope ?

    • Shallow end of the gene pool, those Windsors, eh? Toe sucking dullards, the whole lot

    • As an experiment, substitute "Ashkenazi" for "Jew", and give the same poll to Israeli Sephardi and Mizrahi. And the intermarriage one to both. You may find a surprising degree of antisemitism amongst both groups.

    • Probably not, but not unlikely a distant cousins arranged Henry's loans, tho

      more Tudor agitprop, lord, I so do miss the Plantagenets.

    • Anyone recall the flap when Nigel Farage allied the UKIP movement with a Polish holocaust denier? And some British jews defended him?

      And the new and improved BNP successfully recruited Jews in an attempt to erase its Anti-Semitic reputation?

      And Marine Le Pen doing the same thing in France?

      Apparently, Anti-semitism can be tolerated as long as it is coupled with Anti-Islamism.

    • I think they call it self loathing over there. Of course he wasn't educated in Oxford. He read in Cambridge, you see. Explains a lot. And he was, gasp, a member of the Liberal party.

      Read this, pretty clear indictment.

      I can easily understand the editors of the Morning Post and of the New Witness being Zionists, and I am not in the least surprised that the non-Jews of England may welcome this policy. I have always recognised the unpopularity, much greater than some people think, of my community. We have obtained a far greater share of this country's goods and opportunities than we are numerically entitled to. We reach on the whole maturity earlier, and therefore with people of our own age we compete unfairly. Many of us have been exclusive in our friendships and intolerant in our attitude, and I can easily understand that many a non-Jew in England wants to get rid of us. But just as there is no community of thought and mode of life among Christian Englishmen, so there is not among Jewish Englishmen. More and more we are educated in public schools and at the Universities, and take our part in the politics, in the Army, in the Civil Service, of our country. And I am glad to think that the prejudices against inter-marriage are breaking down. But when the Jew has a national home, surely it follows that the impetus to deprive us of the rights of British citizenship must be enormously increased. Palestine will become the world's Ghetto. Why should the Russian give the Jew equal rights? His national home is Palestine. Why does Lord Rothschild attach so much importance to the difference between British and foreign Jews? All Jews will be foreign Jews, inhabitants of the great country of Palestine.

      And this horror!
      I would say to Lord Rothschild that the Government will be prepared to do everything in their power to obtain for Jews in Palestine complete liberty of settlement and life on an equality with the inhabitants of that country who profess other religious beliefs. I would ask that the Government should go no further.

    • This echoes the debate between two prominent British Lords, back in early 20th century. Both were Jewish and they had opposing views on Zionism and Anti-Semitism.

      Lord Montagu, at the time the only Jewish Minister in Government, called out the British Cabinet for Anti-Semitism, because they were supportive of Zionism. Not the opposite.

      really worth a read.

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      "Zionism has always seemed to me to be a mischievous political creed, untenable by any patriotic citizen of the United Kingdom. If a Jewish Englishman sets his eyes on the Mount of Olives and longs for the day when he will shake British soil from his shoes and go back to agricultural pursuits in Palestine, he has always seemed to me to have acknowledged aims inconsistent with British citizenship and to have admitted that he is unfit for a share in public life in Great Britain, or to be treated as an Englishman."

  • US calls ICC decision to investigate Gaza 'tragic irony'
    • Yup, a credible internal investigation into war crimes can defer ICC action, which can drag on for years. I fully expect we will see something like this.

      Another tactic would be to re-start peace negotiations, the ICC is prohibited from exercising jurisdiction if it might disrupt peace or reconciliation efforts. That's why Rivlin is appealing to the PA to come back to the table, and Prosor moaning at the UN about the PA not seeking negotiations. I expect the US to take this up as well, as part of a tactic to defer ICC action. Portrayal of the PA as bad actors for declining to negotiate and trying to restart a sham roadmap peace process.

      It has been reported that the PA is offering a return to negotiations if there is a settlement freeze, this would stop ICC action, but odds are Israel will choose settlement expansion over ICC heat.

      A third tactic would be for Israel to join the ICC itself, which confers a sort of amnesty on past conduct in return for good conduct going forward. I don't see this happening, considering their current rhetoric.

      However, the the PA's best play is to file claims based on violations of Geneva IV in the territories. Home demolitions, illegal detentions and killings, population transfer, resource theft, etc. That would call the fundamental legality of the settlements into adjudication. Finally. It would have the effect of targeting the civilian political echelon responsible for the policies.

      Not that war crimes committed as part of a hot war aren't important, difficult to prosecute, though, fog of war and self defense and proportionality are slippery concepts. But Geneva IV is pretty unambiguous about the prohibition on acquisition of territory by force, and the duties of occupying powers. Indictees could reach into the finance and commercial enterprise leadership. This would be a major freak out

      Remember, even just an ICC subpoena requires signatory nations to arrest and transport individuals to the Hague, so travel would be limited to non ICC nations. China, India, and the US, and North Korea.....

    • exactly. Americans are irony blind, like being color blind, congenitally unable to recognize irony, which ironically, makes us even more apt to commit stunning acts of Irony, without even knowing it! Like rain on your wedding day, isn't that not Ironic?

    • The PA will likely bring specific claims relating to home demolitions, resource theft, and restriction of movement in the occupied territories. This is what must alarm Israel the most. And it should.

    • Looks like Netanyahu is going to launch a full on Dershowitz style Anti-ICC PR slander campaign. Against the advice of his Foreign Ministry. I wonder if we will get dragged along?

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    • If this is a step closer to resolving this conflict with less human suffering, it is a good thing. Bring it.

    • Some ugly reaction in the Israeli press to the appointment of Andre Carson to the House Intelligence Committee.
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      And in the US, to our shame
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    • Very disappointed in my government's response. As important as investigation and prosecution for crimes committed during military operations, the basic crime of violations of Geneva IV, including the transfer of populations, expropriation of resources, etc, annexation of territory acquired by force, etc., may have the biggest impact on the conflict and its resolution.

      And indictments could come down quick, that would have a huge impact on the political echelon. Months not years.

  • Two Palestinians are killed near Gush Etzion settlement bloc in West Bank
    • Shit's getting' jiggy in the Golan. Canceled leaves, anti missile batteries moving. NEO op about to go down in Saa'na, where our hand picked president guy is in hiding.

    • Gobsmacked now, On CNN, "Unrest in Yemen may be aiding AQ" .

      Iran backed Houthi have taken control of much of the capital. Houthi are enemies of AQ. Houthi control of Yemen would be bad for AQAP, but also bad for Saudi. This mess could escalate in ways nobody wants.

      I wonder if Israel's airstrike on the Iranians in Syria was run by the US, or did it occur without our knowledge or approval? If the latter, how pissed are we? If the former, WTF?

    • The linkage with Shawrabi is likely simply a message from Israeli intel to show that they can still track and target high value targets despite the loss of their asset..

      Israel would certainly prefer to have Al Nusra on the Golan border, than Hezbollah with S-300 anti-air capability. Tacit if not explicit cooperation would make strategic sense.

      If ever Israel needed a nice little war it is now. According to script, they want Hezbollah to retaliate in kind, following which Israel can claim an unprovoked, jew hating terror attack, and in legitimate self defense, blow the crap out of Bekaa valley, maybe Beirut again.

      2015 is an odd year, Gaza is reserved for even years, so this year, Lebanon gets it.

    • Walid might be right. Of course the American media will cover this as "Israel strikes Al Qaeda", counting on our ignorance. Usually a safe bet.
      This looks like a deliberate provocation to sink the Iranian nuclear talks.

    • Annie,
      You might be right. I am still worried that it might be driven by the Iran nuclear negotiations. If they succeed, Netanyahu is weaker electorally. A medium sized hot war with Hezbollah would be a triple win for Netanyahu before elections. From his perspective. Generate sympathy for Israel as a victim of Iranian state sponsored terror, weaken the ICC push, further defer negotiations with the PA (you can't be expected to negotiate peace when you are in the middle of a hot war), Buff his creds as the go to security guy, etc.
      Of course it will all blow up horribly In The longer term, but the PM just needs to get through March elections. He's a short term guy. Not a strategic thinker.

    • I am afraid it could be a manifestation of the Israel/Iran proxy war, trying to provoke a counter response that would sink the P%+1/Iran rapprochement.

      Or is could be old fashioned Election time shenanigans.

      Before anyone calls me out for bigotry for suggesting that the timing of these cross border strikes might have electoral resonance,

      "Major General (res.) Yoav Galant, who is a leading candidate in the Koolanu party's Knesset list, hinted strongly Sunday that the killing of Jihad Mughniyeh in Syria may have been timed to help Binyamin Netanyahu do well in the upcoming national elections."

      "the former Head of Southern Command. "And yet, from events in the past, you can learn that sometimes the timing is not unrelated to the subject of elections.”

      link to

    • This might be trouble. Israeli media are reporting that Al-Nusra/AQ forces were struck, but Lebanon is saying Hezbollah forces were struck. Including someone from the Muganiya clan, so definitely Hezbollah.

      Hezbollah is opposing Al Nusra in Syrian Golan. Is the IAF providing ground attack support for Al Qaeda in the Golan? While we attack them in Yemen?

      There have been rumors. Is Israel trying to provoke another Lebanon incident?. It is election time after all.

  • There is no pride for Jews in the state of Israel
    • The sneer is gone from Netanyahu’s lip, his teeth are clenched in hate,
      He pounds with cruel violence his bat upon the plate;
      And now the pitcher holds the ball, and now he lets it go,
      And now the air is shattered by the force of BiBi's blow.

    • Musker, Not Ben Cardozo?

    • Mulchster, you mean the windblown and interesting and yet effortlessly damn good looking thing?
      I'll bet if we sat down and had a Sodastream diet root beer together we'd find common ground.

    • In the early 50's, women medical school grads were about 4% of the total. Astonishing to think of that these days. What were they thinking?

    • Try wearing a hijab.

    • Yeah, we finally get into the Augusta golf club and now they want to let women and asians in. I tell ya, the repression never ends.

    • There's been great progress. I can't think of an area of social endeavour in the United States, the professions, journalism, media, finance, politics, entertainment where Jews are under-represented. We've come a long way. The final frontiers seem to be US Army infantry and professional hockey. We can always do better.

    • Morris Fishbein, the editor of the prestigious Journal of the American Medical Association 1924-1950, remarked in an interview:

      "If there were quotas in the past, he declared, they were geographical and not religious. State medical colleges favor entrants from their own state, he pointed out. Nevertheless, geographical quotas worked against the tremendous number of New York City Jewish applicants, he said, until New York State increased the number of its medical schools in the past decade."

      Read more: link to

      N.B. NYU Medical school (during the time of racial quotas at other NYC schools) produced an amazing generation of physicians)

    • And they didn't even need to keep statistics on African Americans, or the few Asian, Catholic Irish and Italian that snuck in.

      Bigotry, nativism, racism, segregation and discrimination was pervasive, including anti-semitism. In the professions, electoral politics, suburban housing, country clubs.

      It was wrong then and it is wrong now.

    • The ground truth is that were quotas in most medical schools in New York in the '30's designed to reduce the numbers of Jews winning seats from the WASPS.

      NYU Med didn't have quotas and medical school admission remained majority Jewish through this period.

  • The legacy of Joan Peters and 'From Time Immemorial'
    • David,

      Here is a pointed article from a recent recipient of Dershowitz's wrath, well stated refutation of Boteach.

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      "Op-Ed: Prof. Alan Dershowitz Should Rethink His Attack on Me

      The writer stands behind his opinion that the claims against Israel advocate Dershowitz should not be defended on grounds of anti-Semitism."

    • Peter's and other's efforts to erase Palestinian identity is a form of cultural genocide. In one of the tragic ironies of history, it is Israel that has created a new Palestinian identity frame. A Palestinian is anyone who has been denied dignity and self determination at the hands of Israel.

  • ICC opens war crimes inquiry into Israel over Gaza war as Palestinians prepare another UN resolution
    • Someone tell Prosor that the Right of Return of refugees of conflict to their home is a human right, enshrined in law. Any other position is a non starter.

    • Prosor's remarks were interesting, a shift in rhetoric, but not tone, from previous meetings. With no sense of irony he accused the Palestinians of refusing to negotiate. Water rights came up.

  • Following Paris attacks the National Security State is passé, welcome to the International Security World
    • Prophetic, indeed, Marc

      This current bit of business is a small part of geopolitical changes, and interests. Why France? Why now?

      France made a major shift in foreign policy after Hollande took office. Back to "FrancAfrique"
      In Africa, the former colonial powers are losing their privileged traditional access to extractive resources in Africa, principally to China. Hollande has ordered unprecedented levels of troop deployments to Mali and Chad. And that has consequences. The UK is struggling to restore Nigeria's stability. Belgium is losing the former Congo. French troops in the CAR (supporting Christian terrorists against Islamic terrorists) are getting bogged down in a quagmire.

      It may be the right policy for France, it may be humanitarian, or framed as "anti-Terror", but you can bet commercial interests dominate. The bad guys want french troops out of Africa. And the bad guys fight dirty.

      Worth a read:
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  • Obama cites donor pressure re Iran, but 'NYT' won't tell you what he means
    • All good questions, would you say further investigation into these quite apt questions would help clarify the matter? Remove any questions?

    • Here is the definition of Foreign Agent, under the Foreign Agent Registration act, Note, it is silent about how the source of funding for their operation.:

      One can judge for oneself if AIPAC's activities meet the definition.

      Definition of Foreign Agents

      An agent of a foreign principal (a foreign agent) is any individual (agent, representative, employee, servant) or organization that acts at the order, request, or under the direction or control of a foreign principal, or whose activities are directed by a foreign principal,[4] who:

      Engages in political activities for or in the interests of such foreign principal. The term “political activities” means any activity that the person engaging in believes will in any way influence any agency or official of the United States government or any section of the public with reference to U.S. domestic or foreign policies or with reference to the political or public interests of a foreign principal.[5]
      Acts in a public relations capacity for a foreign principal. The term also includes any person who is engaged in furnishing, disseminating, or publishing accounts, descriptions, information, or data with respect to the political, economic, cultural, or other benefits of any foreign principal.
      Solicits or dispenses any thing of value within the United States for a foreign principal.
      Represents the interests of a foreign principal before any agency or official of the U.S. government

    • Walid, I think we agree. If neutralizing the threat from AQAP and ISIS to US citizens and interests was the principle policy objective, we would make common cause with Iran and put sanctions on KSA until they ended their support for taking causes. Instead we seem to be doing the opposite.

      Crazy. We seem to be the only party to this goat rodeo that is actively working against our own interests.

    • I wasn't talking about the US counter-ISIS efforts in the region, I was talking about Iran's.

    • Let's see, AQAP and ISIS are launching coordinated attacks on civilians in Western Europe. Opposing them are the Houthi in Yemen and the Hezbollah in Syria, backed by Iran, both with some fragile success. AQAP and ISIS are funded by sources within Saudi Arabia.

      So the logical thing is to increase sanctions on Iran, and weaken their ability to fight ISIS and AQAP, and keep tight with Saudi.

    • An Iran deal would be a blow to Netanyahu's electoral prospects.

  • On CNN, Boteach lectures two prominent Muslims about freedom they 'enjoy' in US and Israel
    • Moisheleh,

      countries, like people can claim anything. Doesn't mean a claim is valid. I can claim to be the prettiest girl in the bar, but it doesn't make it so. You can walk into your favorite Dollar Store and declare it "Moosherland", but that doesn't make it so.

    • Amigo,

      well, Israel's claim is that it did not legally annex the Golan, and every Israeli PM has said they would return it after peace breaks out.

      In practical terms, you are correct, it is de factor annexation, to which UNSC refers. But de Jure, nope. Not annexed. It only really matters in how these aberrations are unwound. The Golan, Gaza and the West Bank are "Occupied", where it is illegal to transfer populations, the basis for an ICC complaint.

      Another of those creative ambiguities under which Israel exerts non-sovereign sovereignty in territories outside the 181 boundaries. The only area formally annexed is Municipal Jerusalem.

      Having said that, claims are just claims. As you note, not even the US recognizes them as valid.

      From da Wiki

      The Golan Heights was under Israeli military administration from 1967 to 1981. In 1981, Israel passed the Golan Heights Law,[14] which applied Israeli "laws, jurisdiction and administration" to the Golan Heights. Although the law in effect annexed the territory to Israel, it did not explicitly spell out the formal annexation.[

    • Mooster,

      Yeah, Israel claims to have annexed East Jerusalem, an act not recognized by anyone but Israel, but they did. Israel passed a law extending civil jurisdiction over the Golan, but didn't annex it. Other than the boundaries of the municipality of Jerusalem, they haven't annexed any other parts of the West Bank, it is all under Military jurisdiction. There's some more territory called the Shebaa farms that might be Syrian or might be Lebanese, but it is under Israeli civil control under the Golan laws.
      I don't know all the details

  • Netanyahu's Parisian follies
    • Mali and Niger are blowing up. link to

      I think perhaps Israel's regional security concerns are being overshadowed by some global strategic realities.

    • Netanyahu's electoral chances depends on one or two things that could be fatal to his chances if they occur before elections.

      1. Any P5+1 deal with Iran that results in reducing the sanctions
      2. A failure of the US to veto any UNSC resolution favoring the Palestinians

      So you are probably right, neither will happen, congress will see to it. .

    • Ynet reporting:

      Report: Netanyahu guard shoved French PM
      French newspaper claims member of security detail 'blocked' Manuel Valls; Shin Bet denies report.

      The incident, which they dubbed “Valls and the Gorilla”, occurred during Sunday’s memorial service in the Great Synagogue of Paris for the victims of last week’s terror attacks in the city. According to the report, a member of Netanyahu’s security detail shoved France’s prime minister, grabbed his arm, and blocked his way.

      link to

  • Why do Muslims object to depictions of their prophet?
    • Muenster, you think the Occupation is going fine? Good god man, it is a frickin rolling train wreck. What would you consider "going poorly" to look like?

    • Hebdo is a contemporary embodiment of the long tradition of anti-clericalism in French satire. We don't have a close analogue here in the US.

    • Mooshie, it isn't clear to me that there is functioning government over there at the moment. Much less a powerful one.

    • Moosher,

      I dunno how much support the occupation has amongst the general Israeli public. You might be right, but my experience with my capitalist crony network is mixed, some see it for the liability that it is, some see it as a good thing, because it is a place to keep the crazies, some are indifferent, but most are nihilistic. It is true only a small minority actively oppose it, but I don't take that as huge support. Maybe that's a distinction without a difference. And a skewed sample.

    • I believe you made the comparison, not I. My point was in response to the odious and racist premise to your question, that followers of Islam are primitive and superstitious to degree that disqualifies them from participation in the more enlightened Western Traditions. like self-determination.

      What is offensive to on person or group, just might be someone's morning paper. Blaspheming is in eye of the beholder. And neither POV is exempt from inciting violence. Islam doesn't have a monopoly on

      For example.

      JERUSALEM (JTA) — Israel’s chief rabbis received death threats in letters to their offices warning them to allow the Women of the Wall to pray “in accordance with our customs.”
      The letters, headlined “This is a last warning,” were delivered Monday to the offices of Rabbi Yona Metzger and Rabbi Shlomo Amar. A complaint was filed with the security officer of the Prime Minister’s Office.
      “If the Women of the Wall are not allowed to pray in accordance with our customs, we shall fight you with all available means and you will end up with a hundred dead haredi bodies. Your end is near,” the letter read, according to reports,

      Read more: link to

    • Headline in today's Arutz Sheva.

      After Arutz Sheva Expose, College Withdraws Offensive Exhibit

      link to

      Omri Yadlin, President of Sapir Academic College, stated Friday afternoon that the college's managing board had decided to remove an offensive art exhibit in which Jewish sacred objects were desecrated and used as underwear.

      Yadlin wrote in a letter to students that "the controversy over the exhibit has gone on for a while. As long as the criticism surrounded the interpretation of the art work (as was the case with the Hamsas) the management did not see fit to interfere or censor, but recently the controversy has taken a different focus from students who felt a violation of their religious sensitivities - a violation which derived from an exhibit displaying religious icons in a manner deemed by many to be offensive."

      "I assure you that was not the intention of the the display's creator or of the college," Yadlin added. "This creation featured in other museums in the country and in the US, and did not receive responses such as these, but after we engaged in long conversations with students who felt hurt, and after we understood the depth of that pain, we decided to remove the film from the exhibition until we conduct a deeper debate with a joint forum of artists, staff and students. Anyone who wants to view the film privately can request to do so on an individual level.

    • May I also recommend Karen Armstrong's "Jerusalem", I read it along Simon Sebag Montefiore's "Jerusalem: A Biography". In both accounts, Jewish and Muslim cooperation and reciprocal and peaceful cooperation was the rule, not the exception. This notion of a perpetual and existential struggle is a modern conceit.

      Another good read is Gershon Gorenberg's "Accidental Empire", an account of the political and social forces in the early days of the occupation. In his view, the occupation wasn't intentional, inevitable, necessary or even popular in the early days.

    • Are you saying the Muslims would have photoshopped Angela Merkel out of the parade picture , but they didn't have the technological means?

    • Do you think that incitement to violence should be restricted?

    • Well, as I understand it, the proscription was based on idolatry and polytheism, powerful symbols have the tendency to supplant the things they represent. Monotheism was the big idea and the new unifying force, and false gods had to be whacked down. The old timey Abrahamists had a terrible time with their backsliding flocks with worshiping statues of golden calves, and stones of Ba'al and who knows what else. Graven images and such had a risk of becoming fetish items.

      In fact, some devout Jews think that centrality of "the land of Israel" in the modern spiritual imagination has become a fetish itself, supplanting the idea of the divine with one of sacred geography. To the detriment of proper observance of the mosaic laws.

  • Sadness and anger as 4 Jewish victims of Paris attack are buried in Jerusalem
    • Here's a good bit of reporting from The Forward. Even more of a tragic farce than earlier reported The poor parents.

      link to

    • Huh. So you are saying the conflict in NI is like the conflict in ME? Essentially fueled by competing nationalist aspirations,, between parties with profound power imbalances, with the weaker using terror tactics and both sides mobilizing sectarian, religious arguments to mobilize support and defend their cause?
      And if the problem were framed as religious extremism, no solution to that will address root causes?

    • Pray to Shiva? Or sit Shiva? Is this one of those fusion style ecumenical things I never get?

    • Kim Harroch, the man who killed these innocent victims, whose funeral you attended was not "Arabs". And I can't make sense out of the rest of your comment. Because "security".

      Eric Meltz comment about "they" throw a party celebrating the attack. I am reminded of tending bar in NYC back during the conflict in Norhtern Ireland, they did celebrate after an IRA terror attack, and they did pass the hat for "the boyos, and the NYC pols would come around at election time and the parish priest would always end the service with a prayer for peace and a free Ireland. and some young men would go to Ireland and fight, and come back with cold eyes and they drank for free.
      Would the peace process come sooner if we cracked down on Radical Catholicism?

  • Daily Show references Palestinian cartoonist Mohammad Saba'aneh in story on free speech hypocrisy
    • Yeah, I thought it was significant because we always hear that opposition to showing of Palestinian films, and Art, and "I am Rachel Corrie and ", "Klinghoffer, the Musical, etc is not due to pressure from pro Israel groups, but rather due to a general consensus of opposition across sectors, and to suggest otherwise was a manifestation of bigotry. Now there is counter evidence.

    • It is sad, really. Recently the Newseum installed a memorial to journalists killed in the course of their profession. They were pressured to remove the names of two Palestinians killed in Gaza. The Newseum fought back, but eventually caved.

      "The Newseum reversed its decision after acknowledging Friday that several prominent organizations, including the Committee to Protect Journalists, Reporters Without Borders and The World Association of Newspapers and News Publishers “all consider these men journalists killed in the line of duty.”"

      link to

      Josh Block, at the Israel Project took credit for the pressure that resulted in the reversal.

      link to

  • Jews around the world know 'deep in their hearts they have only one country, Israel' -- Netanyahu
    • Hey, if there any fellow Zionists here, it is voting time for the World Zionist Organization. You can sign up link to , check the Je Suis Juif box, state your agreement with the 1968 Statement of Principles, pay 10 bucks, (for you youngsters, $5 if you are under 30)and you can vote for the 140 odd US delegates(out of 500 world wide)

      JJ Goldberg has helpfully given a run down of the parties here:

      link to

      Voting site here:
      link to

      Make your voice heard! and remember to post a picture.

    • After that Algerian thing worked out so well? really?

    • To which Israel will the Emigrees go? Feiglin's or Avraham Burg's?

      This is worth a read:
      link to

      "Zionism is over, Israel at critical juncture"
      Avraham Burg, once speaker of the Knesset and deputy president, is voting for the communist Hadash party in the next elections; in 20 years, he says, Israel will be in a confederation with Palestine or a fundamentalist religious republic."

      "As you see things, where will we be in 20 years?
      "We are now at a critical juncture. In 20 years, the country will be in one of two places - either it will be a fundamentalist religious republic with Moshe Feiglin, or it will recover from the wars of the Jews over religion and state, and between the Jordan and the sea we will see the establishment of an Israel-Palestine confederation with open borders."

      Towards the end of his political career and in the years to follow, Burg sparked a number of scandals. In September 2003, for example, he argued in an article in The Guardian that "Israel, having ceased to care about the children of the Palestinians, should not be surprised when they come washed in hatred and blow themselves up in the centres of Israeli escapism. They consign themselves to Allah in our places of recreation, because their own lives are torture. They spill their own blood in our restaurants in order to ruin our appetites, because they have children and parents at home who are hungry and humiliated."

      In 2007, he applied for and received French citizenship, and went on to advise all Israelis to acquire a foreign passport."

  • It's not the cartoons-- a contrarian perspective from a Muslim cartoonist
    • Mayhem, one murder is a heinous crime, a murder of four is a massacre, no argument from me. But we often hear in defense of the Israeli security forces on charges of genocide, the argument that if they really wanted to do genocide, there would be a lot more dead.

      So this genocidal Jew hating killing machine had the perfect opportunity to run up the body count, but instead served them lunch, and made sure the elderly hostages were able to sit comfortably. For 7 hours he had total control over their life or death.

      It raises a question in one's mind about his motivations. Definite horrific crime, but it casts a shadow on "all they want to do is to kill as many Jews as possible" as their principal motivation.

      I abhor the killings and wish the survivors a rapid recovery from this terrible ordeal.

    • The killer in the HyperCacher told the hostages he had nothing against Jews, but said anyone who paid taxes was culpable in the presence of the French Military in Africa, and he stated his cause was to get the French Military out of Africa, where by the way, the French support of Christian terrorists has resulted in the deaths and mutation and displacement of tens of thousands in the Central African Republic.

      Oddly he didn't kill or threaten any of the hostages after the initial assault. In fact, he offered them food.

  • Netanyahu crashes Paris unity march, French gov't fumes
    • Well, the title insurance company was skeptical about the deeds, but who is gonna argue with the Aulde Testament? But, with a big enough deposit into Banco Leumi, which until recently would hide your assets from the IRS, it was all good. The risk premium was offset by the tax advantages, a sweet deal.
      The problem is, the place is unliveable, more different kinds of nuts than the bar at the King Cole room at the St Regis, saying'. And the smell of the place, oyy. So, we go back for a week around Passover, send the kids to the beach. Place is empty rest of the year.

    • Yeah, a lot of expats buy property, living there a few months and then they bug out. Income inequality is a very publicly discussed issue in Israel, much more than here in the US. If it weren't for the external and existential crises, it would probably be the issue in the upcoming elections.

    • There is a lot of bounce back. Particularly among the educated and skilled emigrants. They can't take it there. Empty homes in Jerusalem. Big issue in the housing cost crisis.

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