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The Pew Research poll cites this very issue, here is the full report: link to pewglobal.org
Here is the 2012 survey: link to globescan.com
Ooops! That was the 2008 or 2009 poll, not the most recent one! My mistake. I will be back on tonight and I will post the more recent 2012 survey and respond to others on here as well.
And to those who make false assertions as Israel being seen as a bigger perceived threat, here is the recent GlobeScan Global Attitudes survey..: link to bloomberg.com
"Attitudes toward U.S. influence on the world have improved in the past year, according to an annual survey of people in 34 countries. Iran scored worst in the poll."
It is too late to respond to every single post directed at me and I will do so tomorrow (with blatantly false assertions made); but I will say one thing to the ad hominems: I am not Israeli, Hasbara, or Jewish. I am Iranian-American technically born muslim and an atheist. I was born in Iran and have spent considerable amounts of time in Iran as of recently. That kind of takes the narrative out from your personal attacks on me wanting U.S. to "bomb" Iran "because of Israel". Anyhow, I will respond to the other false assertions and blatantly incorrect data cited later during the day.
So we have people advocating anarchy and terrorist threats on here and nothing is done?
To those on here who erroneously think they express public opinion. Recent survey by Pew Research indicated through its findings that 63% of Americans would support military intervention to prevent the Islamic Republic from acquiring nuclear weapons along with over 50% of Europeans. See the findings here: link to pewglobal.org
People on message boards like these DO NOT express public sentiment/feeling. Just like Ron Paul supporters who are quite vocal with their views.
For people to make the narrative that it is an "aipac letter" it is disingenuous. This letter is for the security of world peace and our national security interests. For someone to claim it is an "aipac letter" distorts the narrative and the truth from the outset.
Beautifully stated by the Senators! Now let's hope Obama the moral coward follows suit... I highly doubt it though. Obama is too much of a pansy and weak leader to do any leading. Let's hope Mitt Romney is elected come November. This regime must go and it seems as if Obama is too much of a moral coward to do anything about that as he has allowed the blood of the Syrian people too spill without any action for so long. Only time will tell. Let's see..
Based on the narrative of that book, it seems to be extremely one-sided and false. Again, I simply refer one to read "Einstein: His Life and Universe" for a complete picture of Einstein. In fact, he campaigned with Chaim Weizmann for the creation of Israel.
From the aforementioned book, ' “Einstein told him that he saw the birth of Israel as one of the few political acts in his lifetime that had a moral quality. But he was concerned that the Jews were having trouble learning to live with the Arabs. “The attitude we adopt toward the Arab minority will provide the real test of our moral standards as a people,” he had told a friend a few weeks earlier. He wanted to broaden his speech, which he was scribbling in German in a very tight and neat handwriting, to urge the creation of a world government to preserve peace.” '
And: 'He took issue with Haber’s way of regarding Jews as being people “of the Jewish faith” and instead, once again, cast the identity as being inextricably a matter of ethnic kinship. “Despite my emphatic internationalist beliefs, I have always felt an obligation to stand up for my persecuted and morally oppressed tribal companions,” he said. “The prospect of establishing a Jewish university fills me with particular joy, having recently seen countless instances of perfidious and uncharitable treatment of splendid young Jews with attempts to deny their chances of education.” '
Continued..: 'As he would note near the end of his life, after declining the presidency of Israel, “My relationship to the Jewish people has become my strongest human tie.” '
And finally: 'The rise of German anti-Semitism after World War I produced a counterreaction in Einstein: it made him identify more strongly with his Jewish heritage and community. At one extreme were German Jews such as Fritz Haber, who did everything they could, including converting to Christianity, to assimilate, and they urged Einstein to do the same. But Einstein took the opposite approach. Just when he was becoming famous, he embraced the Zionist cause. He did not officially join any Zionist organization, nor for that matter did he belong to or worship at any synagogue. But he cast his lot in favor of Jewish settlements in Palestine, a national identity among Jews everywhere, and the rejection of assimilationist desires.'
Izik, I applaud your moral clarity.
Not alleged, it is fact. The CIA has confirmed Mr. Kahlili's association with the agency and the Revolutionary Guards.
No, I don't like the MEK and the vast majority of Iranians don't like the MEK.
The "movie was persecuted" for public face as the documentary was not meant to be released to the public but was leaked by Reza Kahlili, former CIA/Revolutionary Guards spy who obtained it from his contacts. The documentary and the ideology of the Twelver's very much represent those at the top of the regime. IT was Khamanei who says he "meets with the hidden imam each year" to ask him for "advice" including "advice" on their nuclear program.
And what's wrong with Memri? They provide a great public service.
More ad hominems . If I don't fit into your preconceived notions I must either be a "Zionist", an "MEK", or now a "Monarchist". Quite comical.
You should read some time. A great book is Einstein: His Life and Universe by Walter Isaacson. It contains a great number of recently released personal letters of Einstein. Einstein in fact did not believe in Judaism as a religion but did believe in a Jewish state and was in fact offered Israel's Presidency which he did not accept. In addition, he was Jewish as being Jewish is first and foremost a cultural and historical basis, not a religious.
Learn here: link to en.wikipedia.org
And if you want to really learn about the history of Iran and Israel I suggest watching the following groundbreaking documentary produced by Maziar Bahari (the Newsweek journalist who was imprisoned after the 2009 protests) for the BBC entitled, “From Cyrus to Ahmadinejad”. I went ahead and made the English subtitles myself as it is such a great documentary in which you will learn A LOT..: link to youtu.be
Here is my page on "ThinkAtheist": link to thinkatheist.com
I have nothing to hide about who I am and to refer to me not being Iranian simply for not fitting your preconceived notions is ridiculous.
Guess what buddy? The Iranian people are overwhelmingly pro-American and pro-west. We are oppressed under a tyrannical regime that holds its grip only through terror, torture, and oppression.
I am against an Israeli strike against Iran as any strike would have to be led by the U.S. and her European allies and any strike must not solely target the nuclear sites but the regime apparatus itself. The aim for any military intervention needs to be regime change and a support of the Iranian people. Iran is the only nation in the region that once liberated will truly become a secular democracy as the Iranian people are on the side of the west and in particular, our culture is pre-Islamic.
The Jewish part is more a "cultural" thing than religious. It is not a theocratic state. Albert Einstein was "Jewish too" and so has been a long list of Nobel Laureates and physicists who were in fact atheist Jews.
wiseman = "wise man". My name is Sassan.
I'm against all nuclear weapons too but the fact is that Israel is a nation that is not run by rabbis but instead of secular leadership. Israel is a country in which 15-30% of the population are atheist-Jews and 60% of Israelis consider themselves secular. They are not a nation that will use nuclear weapons as an offensive weapon. If Israel was run by rabbis, I would share your concern as well. But the fact is that Israel is surrounded by nations that want to wipe it out. In contrast with Iran, the apocalyptic madmen constituting the Islamic Republic constitute of fanatics that rape our young sisters before executing them so that they don't "die as virgins".
I will state again, I am not Jewish. I am an Iranian/atheist "technically born Muslim". The vast majority of the Iranian people have no problems with Israel and recognize their rights. Our enemy is the Islamic Republic. We and the Israelis are historical brethren going back 2500-years. It is time to support the Iranian people in getting rid of this terrorist and illegitimate regime of the Islamic Republic. Israel is the only democracy in a sea of despots and fascists and should be recognized as such.
Your mistake is you're comparing secular leadership to the west to that of messianic madmen in Iran who rule through impunity and terror against the will of the Iranian people. Never compare secular leaders in the west to the religious madmen constituting the Mullahs. And I speak as an Iranian and an atheist, a non-Jew. You simply don't compare the two.
For those who deny what the terrorist regime of the Islamic Republic has said time and time again:
"Ahmadenijad constantly states “marg bar Israel” which means “death to Israel”. Ahmadenijad in a speech on February 20th, 2008 stated, “In the Middle East, they [the global powers] have created a black and filthy microbe called the Zionist regime.”
More importantly, what comes out of the Supreme Animal’s Khamenei’s mouth? On December 15, 2000, he declared on Islamic Republic State TV: “Iran’s position, which was first expressed by the Imam [Khomeini] and
stated several times by those responsible, is that the cancerous tumor called Israel must be uprooted from the region.”
During military parades, they have slogans draped “Israel must be wiped off the map” over the missiles in military parades. In addition, similar slogans and signs are present at every Friday prayer.
In an address to the “World without Zionism” conference in Tehran on October 26, 2005, Ahmadenijad said, “Va Imam-e-aziz-e-ma farmudand ke in rezhim-e- eshghalgar-e Qods bayad az safhe-ye ruzegar mahv shaved. In jomle besyar hakimane ast” which translates to “Our dear Imam [Khomeini] ordered that this Jerusalem occupying regime [Israel] must be erased from the page of time. This was a very wise statement”.
In addition in the same speech he added: “Be-zudi in lake-ye nang ra az damane donya-ye Islam pak khahad kard, va in shodani’st” which translates to: “Soon this stain of disgrace will be cleaned from the garment of the world of Islam and this is attainable”.
Further examples include a speech on April 14, 2006 which he stated, “Derakht-e khoshkide va puside’i ast ke ba yek tufan dar ham khahad shekat” which translates to: “A dried, rotten tree that will collapse with a single storm”. Furthermore during a military parade on April 17, 2008 referring to the U.S. and Israel he stated: “Mantage-va jehan amade-ye tahavolat-e bozorg va pak shodan az doshmanan-e ahrimani’st” which translates to: “The region and the world are prepared for great changes and for being cleansed of Satanic enemies”. Again, on May 14, 2008 in a city called Gorgan he stated: “Israel’s days are numbered” and that “the people’s of the region would not miss the narrowest opportunity to annihilate this false regime” and he continued, “Thanks to god, your wish will soon be realized, and this germ of corruption will be wiped off the face of the world”.
THIS IDEOLOGY IS AT THE CORE OF THIS REGIME SINCE KHOMEINI as Khomeini always declared he would destroy Israel as the “reconquering” of Jerusalem is necessary for the “return of the hidden imam”.
To go back to the Supreme Animal Khamenei, he stated on January 15, 2001 at a meeting with organizers of the International Conference for Support of the Intifada, “The foundation of the Islamic regime is opposition to Israel and the perpetual subject of Iran is the elimination of Israel from the region” and in fact the original translation by Islamic Republic journalists were “It is the mission of the Islamic Republic of Iran to erase Israel from the map of the region”.
One of Khamenei’s top Ayatollah’s, Ayatollah Shariatmadari stated on October 4, 2007: “Death to America and Death to Israel are not only words written on paper but rather a symbolic approach that reflects the desire of all the Muslim nations”.
Ayatollah Janati: “The blind enemies should see that the wish of these people is the death of America and Israel”.
General Safavi (Revolutionary Guards): “With god’s help the time has come for the Zionist regime’s death sentence” (February 2008). and in Hamadan on February 23, 2008 he stated: “Death of this unclean regime [Israel] will arrive soon following the revolt of the Muslims”.
The thug Mohammad-Ali Ramin: on June 9, 2006: “Among the Jews there have always been those who killed god’s prophets and who opposed justice and righteousness. Historically, there are many accusations against the Jews. For example, it was said that they were the source for such deadly diseases as the plague and typhus. This is because the Jews are very filthy people. For a time people also said that they poisoned water wells belonging to Christians and thus killed them”.
Ayatollah Nuri Hamadani in April 2005, “One should fight the Jews and vanquish them so that the conditions for the advent of the Hidden Imam will be met” and he continued, “at present the Jews’ policies threaten us. One should explain in the clearest terms the danger the Jews pose to the [Iranian] people and to the Muslims. Already from the beginning the Jews wanted to hoard the world’s goods in their greed and voracity. They always worked in important professions and now they have hoarded all of the wealth in one place. And all of the world, especially America and Europe, are their slaves”.
General Mohammad-Ali Jafari in February 2008 in a message to Hassan Nasrallah: “In the near future, we will witness the destruction of the cancerous microbe Israel by the strong and capable hands of the nation of Hizbollah”.
Former foreign minister Mottaki on February 18, 2008: “The west has tried to impose a fabricated regime on the Middle East, but after sixty years, the Zionist regime [Israel] has neither gained any legitimacy nor played any role in this region”.
Majles speaker Adel in February 2008 stated, “The countdown has begun for the destruction of the Zionist regime”.
What the hell else do you want to prove this regime is a threat?? How about a documentary produced by the regime in which Khamenei, Hassan Nasrallah, and Ahmadenijad are portrayed as key members of the Hadith whom will usher in the return of the “Hidden Imam” in which conquering Jerusalem is a prerequisite and the end-goal is to spread Islam to “all corners of the Earth” in a worldwide chaos in which 2/3rd of humanity will “perish through death, havoc,and famine? And they believe that the Middle East freedom movements are all a part of an “Islamic Awakening” for this end - simply go to youtube and search "The Coming is Upon Us"