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a nominal Israel supporter until the '67 War when anti-Arab racism became so blatant that there was this Eureka moment that went something like "Damn, what a fool I've been". Ever since I've been a staunch pro-Palestinian anti-Zionist.
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not true in the case of indonesia's takeover of east timor.
yes!
same as they've taken over the u.s. government as well as both the democratic and republican parties, israel firsters now own the liberal establishment. the only way to break this hold is to attack them for their israel first treachery, not once, not now and then, but daily and twice on sundays. and as the public comes to associate israel firstness with battle casualties in afghanistan (recall general david petreaus' remarks a couple years ago about israel's intransigence endangering our troops in afghanistan & Iraq), there'll be a general revulsion towards these traitors, such that the pro-israel echo chamber will be muted. once again this isn't conjecture because this is exactly what happened 20 years ago* when president george the elder hinted at pro-israel americans being less than patriotic for their opposition to his putting a hold on a ten billion dollar guaranteed loan to the apartheid entity for having grown its settlements in the west bank. the reason israel firsters quiet down when their patriotic bonafides are questioned is that they know that the charge is true. what isn't clear, however, given the effectiveness of exposing israel firsters for what they are, is why anti-zionists are so restrained in employing this proven weapon. not that the subject isn't broached now & then, but at least on mw, seems that two-state vs one state & related topics are prioritized, the outcome of which we have no control. our exposing israel firsters, though, will take us to the heart of the matter, severing that disgusting special relationship, something that turning the public against israel firsters can accomplish. and once the special relationship is broken, the apartheid entity's leaders will have no choice but to sit down with their palestinian counterparts and work things out based on one equals one with liberty and justice for all. we can do this!
*same thing happened during the '56 suez war when president dwight eisenhower forced an israeli/french/british military alliance to withdraw from egyptian territory.
no reconciliation without equality and no equality without ending apartheid.
"we must not accept to be slaves to occupation, apartheid and internal divisions"
likewise in the u.s. of a. we must not accept being slaves to the 1% who own and rule the 99%. what's more doesn't the outcome of the hunger strike by palestinian prisoners suggest that the most immediately effective approach to turning things around would be for a universal hunger strike in support of the 99% to take place, with each community to issue its basic demands based upon the occupy movement's "leaderless yet everyone a leader" formula? daytime hunger strikes could be staged initially outside various power/wealth institutions (banks, corporate HQ, offices of politicians, israeli consulates, etc. etc), and ratched-up both in length of the starvation period and the extent of the demands. the unifying effect of such dramatic yet popular expressions of solidarity among the 99% of humanity that is essentially powerless should not be underestimated. what's more, since a people united can never be defeated, think what a world united might accomplish.
more like shanghaied than co-opted
since hitler's naziism and stalin's communism were served up as a combination of religion and nationality, weren't both these also anomalous? which raises the question as to whether the zionist entity, on account of its expansionist ways. will go the self-destructive way of its anomalous expansionist predecessors?
socialized medicine doesn't get israel off the hook for being an apartheid entity.
what israel does serves as a commentary as to what zionism is.
"If I am not for others, who am I" versus if I am not for myself who will be?"
except in a world ruled by the top 1% isn't it not only stupid but self-destructive for the bottom 99% to abide solely by the maxim take care of number one? certainly many if not most of those of us who have felt the sting of oppression come to realize this almost instinctively, which is why, for example, so many jews, myself included, are siding with the palestinian people, even though they are being oppressed by settlers who, while claiming to be jewish, seem to lack the "memory" of oppression that heretofore has defined jewish culture, such that for us "never again" means never again not just for us but for anyone or any people. thus, the attempt to tie judaism to biblical gobbledegook is nothing but a desperate attempt to stave off the delegitimization of an apartheid zionist entity by substituting the mysticism of ancient faery tales for the logic of modern day life.
what should americans do? whatever it takes to force our government to end its special relationship with the apartheid zionist entity. once this happens, the now completely isolated entity will have no choice but to sit down with palestinians and work things out on the basis of one equals one with liberty and justice for all. unless, of course, it opts for the masada "solution" with all its implications in terms of a nuclear winter. except if it comes down to israel's even considering the latter destructive path, look for the entity's jewish population to shrink dramatically, as a massive exodus takes place to the west, such that there'll be nobody left to press the button.
"published doctored photos and false Palestinian accounts of Israeli massacres" & how's that for Nakba denial?
dehumanization is what it's called, its purpose being to turn the designated enemy into a demon or thing.
this collective "consciousness" applies not only to religious/ethnic groups but to nationalities, for example, the denials or rationalizations often heard when reports surface that our presidents lie us into wars &/or that u.s. troops in afghanistan are committing war crimes.
did catholic priests accused of child sex crimes similarly receive blanket protection from being identified?
since collective punishment supposedly was abandoned in 1905, three years later what was operation cast lead, not to mention the almost routine idf bombardment of gaza any time a false flag or even a firecracker goes off there?
while potential mediators such as tv may be helpful in advancing universality what's really effective and sustaining in this regard takes place when different peoples interact in their daily lives, particularly in education and work as well as wherever there are integrated communities. the non-self-conscious ease with which young people from varied backgrounds mix socially attests to this. here in california, for example, the latest public school demographics* reveal that 51.43% of students are hispanic or latino, 6.69% african american, 26.63% white (non-hispanic), 8.52% asian, 2.56% philipino, 1.81% 2 or more races and less than 1% native american. granted many schools remain de facto segregated but except, perhaps, for the home schooled, wouldn't it be difficult to grow up in california without having had at least a modicum of familiarity with one's peers from a diversity of backgrounds?
*California Department of Education: Student Racial/Ethnic makeup for 2010-11
many or most of this former outside group don't get the issue of palestinian oppression because it just happens that this former outside group (jews) are the palestinians' oppressors. likewise, as once again cognitive dissonance obliterates common sense, most americans don't get it that u.s. troops are considered to be oppressors by much of the world, afghanistan, iraq, yemen and somalia in particular.
so the zionist entity's public refuses to believe that its cherished idf wouldn't stoop to such minor league false flag operations? perhaps they need to be reminded of the "lavon affair", a 1954 israeli covert operation in which u.s. and british targets in egypt were bombed with evidence left implicating the egyptian muslim brotherhood.
some jews think that the world is crazy & only jews are sane. mr. so & so is jewish. therefore mr. so and so thinks the world is crazy and only jews are sane. syllogism, anyone?
once again, zionism's historical figures such as theodor herzl may influence older jewish-americans but i doubt they do the younger generations. the lack of interest that jewish-american youth have in the zionist entity attests to this. anyways the generational battle is taking place right now, so we should find out fairly soon which way the wind is blowing.
you nailed it!
a common saying according to whom, because i know hundreds of jews and can't recall many jews making that statement (except among my peer group, age 4 score and some), let alone the younger generations, most of whom are fully integrated into american society.
biblical, schmiblical, besides, a minority of jews have or ever will read the bible. what's more heading off a future such as the one you describe is what mw and the growing jewish anti-zionist movement is about. so enough already of this damn fatalism. if you're so sure that there's nothing that can be done to avoid the unthinkable, aren't you wasting what precious little time you have left writing about the inevitable, since, as per nevil shute's "on the beach", right now you could be spinning a supercharged racing car around a race track, oblivious of the danger? after all tomorrow that nuclear cloud arrives, so what the heck?
none of the above is an antisemite. unless, of course, re: the zionist entity, telling it the way it is, rather than deferring in such matters to israel firster traitors, is (as these said traitors insist) a sine qua non of antisemitism. actually (and for the umpty-umpth time), israel firsters happen to be the real antisemites, being that it's the zionist entity's occupation of palestine that not only fuels antisemitism and anti-americanism throughout and beyond the arab/islamic world, but also the blowback from said brutality that's such a serious national security threat. should, for example, there be even one more terrorist incidence here in the homeland that's linked to the israeli occupation, how long before the public sizes everything up and collectively comes to the conclusion, "why of course, knew it all the time, it's these damn jewish traitors* in our midst." and if turning america and most of the rest of the world against jews isn't antisemitic, what is? not to mention the fact that nconditionally supporting an entity that is armed with nukes and whose people are obsessed with the holocaust (as well as with the masada) is a recipe for a nuclear winter
*and it's unlikely the public will distinguish being jewish supporters and jewish opponents of the zionist entity
the german nazis had their autobahn, italy's fascists got the trains to start on time, whereas american israel firsters have their zionist occupier entity's brief propaganda mission to haiti to brag about. indeed these dubious advances were/are cited by apologists for each of these three terrorist regimes as proof of the benevalent nature of the particular regime they support - "since it's so busy attending to the needs of its own {as well as other} people, it's both erroneous and mean-spirited to accuse {germany, italy, israel) of committing crimes against humanity."
zionism poisons the minds of jewish settlers
the poisoned minds of jewish settlers poison palestinian villagers' grapevines by spraying these with toxic chemicals
the lesson here is that poisonous minds do poisonous deeds
the antidote to such poisonous behavior?
justice for palestine
most of which has been post-wwii? hmm, didn't know that the southerner's accent and food, not to mention the blues, was a post-wwii phenomenum.
here in america passing is an affliction that's not exclusive to jews. re: passing among african-americans, richard wright wrote about this in "native son".
the net result of israel firster joe walsh's pushing his "final solution" would be to inflame the arab/islamic world such that our nation (israel's main backer) would be endangered, making it risky for americans to venture elsewhere. he may think that his proposal will help him win in november, but little does he know that his israel firstness leaves him vulnerable to being defeated by a carefully planned campaign that challenges him for advocating policies that if carried out would pose a threat to these united states of america.
in a show of solidarity with the imprisoned hunger strikers how about a day of hunger here in the u.s. of a.? centers of solidarity could be set up outside of israeli consulates, federal buildings as well as jewish institutions (such as the holocaust museums), universities, etc. etc. If the idea catches on it could be turned into a weekly or monthly happening and even could travel the world. no way could msm escape paying attention.
so obsessed with the holocaust is the zionist entity's prime minister that it's difficult
not to associate him with dr strangelove's "how i learned to stop worrying and love the bomb." he's long post-due being put away for safe keeping in some mid-atlantic site, the isle of saint helene, for example.
on so many fronts and in so many ways bds is going to wear down the zionist government such that it'll have no choice but to sit down with palestinian leaders and work things out based on one equals one with liberty and justice for all, with peace on earth and goodwill to all living beings sure to follow.
who better than native american and indigenous studies scholars to know an apartheid entity when they see one? will the amcha initiative censors also try to fix the antisemitic label to the co-signers of this open letter? let'em try, because the more they do, the more they expose themselves for the thought control freaks that they are.
he jumps up because the truth hurts.
it's their israel firstness than renders them vulnerable. they know it too. why else do they tremble with fear any time the subject is brought up. which raises the question how come we anti-zionists aren't going all out at israel firstness? fear this might of stoke the flames of antisemitism? but isn't holding back from nailing them tantamount to accepting the claim that israel speaks for all jews & that zionism = judaism? worse yet, by holding back we're denying ourselves the use of a proven strategy (eisenhower used it to stop the '56 israeli-british-french war against egypt & bush the elder did so in '92 in an attempt to stop israeli's expansion of wb settlements, and a year or so ago general david petreus, among others, employed it to chasten the pro-israel echo chamber). so when it's a matter of reaching the public, is there any other approach as effective as shaming the israel firster, letting all americans in on the not so secret that these israel firsters put our nation at risk? that'll wake'em up. count on it!
proved that evening? nonsense! the struggle for the soul of judaism is ongoing and won't be decided by any single battle. here in america, anyways, fitting in, not tribalism, is the foundation of jewish life.
more like a last stand apologist
what does it mean to be loyal to one's own people? that's easy, make sure that nothing is done in the name of one's people that violates the human rights of other peoples.
it isn't how many of us jewish-americans are opposing our government's unconditional support of the zionist entity, it's are we able to enlist the general public in pressuring our politicos to do the right thing. the recent vote on divestment at the methodist church indictates that we're making headway. yes, divestment lost but the fact that similar battles are raging throughout our land has to be looked upon as progress. as for all the zionist donor $$$, once we have these israel firster traitors on the run, all the zionist donors & all their $$$ won't be able to put the special relationship together again.
so cool under fire, so courageous, so articulate, so humbling
"for us never again means never again for anyone" - a statement that could be the rallying cry of every person and community ever to have felt the sting and humiliation of racism.
scary!
no peace without freedom, no freedom without justice, no justice without equality
it isn't so much who won the battle, rather it's that this battle and so many others like it actually are being fought. not so long ago there were hardly any, today, sparks everywhere. plotting all this activity on a graph one would have reason to believe that resistance is at an early exponential phase of growth. what's next? freedom's majestic heights!
oh where oh where is the gipper
once again to say "tear down this wall"
only this time his message won't be to mr gorbachev
but to the zionist entity's mr netanyahu instead
still the same outcome is anticipated
the wall coming down
down, down
the wall to come down
down, down.
ever mindful of that day in yesteryear when, after being caught by indians, the lone ranger turns to tonto and says "looks like we're in serious trouble", and tonto answers him with, "what do you mean we, white man", i wonder, at this detroit conference, when the zionist entity's ambassador tells the predominately jewish audience, "looks like we're in serious trouble", will someone stand up and say "what do you mean we, mr. israeli ambassador?"
governing based on ancient texts of unknown authenticity and authorship, what a prescription for survival this is. as for the amalekites having attacked the israelites on their way out of egypt, according to a recent pbs passover program, there's little if any archaelogical evidence to support there having been an exodus, or, if it did occur, it consisted at most of only a small number of hebrews. yet based on what amounts to nothing more than a wicked faery tale, 2500 years later we jews are to continue smiting the descendents of amalekites. except if were pursue such madness, wouldn't this open the door for christians to reenact acts of vengeance upon the descendents of the jews who may or man not have been involved in the crucifiction* of jesus? so how can any rational and sentient being take this bs about killing amalekites seriously?
the answer? enough already of allowing ancient writings to determine what sort of world and how we're to be governed.
*whether or not it ever occurred?
exactly!
and afterwards the response of the former zionist zealots?
blessings to all who helped bring us to our senses
and who & what will have undone it?
those of us who answer the call for boycotts, divestment and sanctions
when the rogue zionist entity israel is undone*, then what?
a just, peaceful and more egalitarian world
*the entity, not its people
in addition to questioning the poll's validity, a couple days of presidential bully pulpiting would easily reverse those poll numbers as well as send israel firster traitors frantically scurrying to find a cubby hole to hide in.
which is why we can't just sit around, tut-tutting & waiting for the villains to trick us into a doomsday scenario; instead, we have to find ways to preempt them, alerting the public, for example, via widespread online advisories about the liklihood that they're going to try to trick us into another war and mentioning some of the possibilities. more importantly, what with a good offense being the best defense, we have to take it to them (the villains). no problem, though, because we're the ones seeking change (a creative process & therefore unpredictable), whereas, they're merely protecting the status quo (same old same old and therefore predictable). it's not as if we have a choice in this matter, cause we stand by and let them get away with this and how long before there's this call for the last one out to please turn off the lights? twenty years? fifty years? we can do this. the only thing lacking is confidence
obama has one big advantage, the bully pulpit, that if he only had the cajones to use, he'd be able to keep the israel firster neocon traitors on the defensive. and there's a precedent for its use in quieting the israel firsters, namely, george bush the elders 1992 questioning of their loyalty when they opposed his withholding a 10 billion dollar loan guarantee for wb settlement expansion. most importantly opinion polls back then showed that he had overwhelming public support, and if there's one thing that scares the bejeezies out of israel firsters (there worst nightmare has to be their being awakened at night by a mob shouting "traitor, traitor, traitor"), it's a president who's willing to take them on and has popular support. alas, it's extremely doubtful that president obama has the cajones to take on these traitors, even though if he doesn't he loses the election.
now that their momentum has stalled isn't it time to pounce on these israel firster traitors in msm & government for almost bringing on a nuclear winter? specifically, demands for an official enquiry into how it is that israel firsters took us so close to the brink, with the purpose of said effort being to discredit israel firsters such that they'll no longer be a factor in u.s. politics. an orchestrated twitter campaign, for example; once in motion it would have a life of its own. not that we'd attain such numbers, but i heard that during the european soccer championship tournament last week (one of the games played by the barcelona team), soccer fans were tweeting to the tune of 15,000 tweets/sec, a record number which surpassed by a thousand or so the previous record established a few months ago during the superbowl. not that we'd get anywhere near those numbers, but israel and its israel firster appendages here in the u.s. of a. sure have made a lot of enemies, so who knows how many
tweeters would sign on?
brave because however small beinart's step forward he's put himself at risk of being on the receiving end of zionist retaliation, verbal for sure and possibly physical, as per what's been happening to jewish protesters at zionist conferences (a year ago in new orleans, for example). and as israel firsters become yet more desperate, things could get worse. like thirty years ago when i was notified by one of the intelligence agencies that my name was on a hit list that contained about thirty names, and don't think that wasn't scary. what's more mossad recognizes no borders. so until israel firsters start running for cover, yes, it'll take a certain amount of bravery to take a stand against the zionist entity israel's crimes.
what went wrong?
nothing, except it's -
ill-conceived
ill-planned
ill-advised
illegitimate
just plain ill as in sick, sick, sick
and from day one
might this election turn out to be a replay of the '64 election in which lbj took on barry goldwater for having suggested that tactical nuclear weapons be used against vietnam - that issue + goldwater's disdain for the great society? but if obama were to follow lbj's blueprint, if elected would he go back on his word, just as lbj did when he intensified and broadened the war? seems that posing as a peacemaker before an election but then, post-election, doing a turnabout is par for the course?
re: whether there's something new developing in the obama administration -
LA Times lead article yesterday - "U.S. shifts its stance on nuclear Iran - White House might support letting Tehran enrich some uranium if it agrees to other U.N. restrictions."
and today, same newspaper, pA3, "Iran may be open to U.S. offer - A Tehran official says a possible deal on limited enrichment may be a 'good start'".
don't know whether the rest of msm is covering this, and could be the adminstration's doing a number on the public, building up hope for the big letdown, where from the oval office just before he gives the "bombs away" order, the pres says "nobody can say I didn't try."
but what if this time it's for real?
appreciate the clarification. do you have information as to whether it was mostly young church members supporting bds, or did it have broadbased support?
noticing the young faces in the above photo, here are some umc demographics*
female- 57%
male- 43%
age 30-49- 34%
50-64- 26%
65+ - 26%
18-29 - 11%
white - 93%
black - 2%
latino - 2%
mixed - 2%
asian - 1%
from this data no question that the umc demographics are skewed towards the elderly white & female, which gives meaning to the above photo featuring obviously young church members; namely, that as in the generational split among jews, it's likely there's a
similar split among methodists and perhaps other christian denominations, which makes the push within an aging umc to support bds that much more impressive.
*google, methodists,demographics & click on "Pew Study underscores trouble for United Methodists"
when jfk went to the berlin wall and did his ich bin ein berliner number, he electrified the world (or so msm told us). if one person could accomplish this with just a few words, what would be the effect of entire populations standing up at the same time (say, sundown, the first friday in may) and shouting in both arabic and their own native languages, "I am a palestinian, I am a Palestinian, I am a Palestinian"?
the chanting could be turned into a weekly event. what's more aerial and even satellite photograph could show the process moving from east to west, giving the world a glimpse of just how powerful the movement really is, and of its potential for bringing about meaningful change.
periodic agent provacateur created "terrorist" scares seem to be essential for keeping fear alive. fear paralyzes rational thought and by doing so turns us into sheep.
on the other hand, after 64 years of crank, crank, crank'ing on the subject of the zionist occupation of palestine, how can one not be pissed at the lack of progress? there's the maxim about if at first you don't succeed, try, try again, but, still, how's a breakthrough this year?
didn't opposition to the vietnam war begin with debate, especially in colleges and universities, and didn't this debate spawn the anti-vietnam war movement, and wasn't this movement an important element in ending that war? same goes for the anti-zionist/pro-palestinian movement, not very much visible yet, but the energy's building up. it's like trying to start the old model T, you crank the engine, nothing; crank it again, nothing; one more time and, voila, the engine's humming.
so the israel firsters' exploiting 9/11 to eliminate israel's enemies in the mideast is not an act of treason, even though general david petreaus, among others, has said that israel's intransigence vis-a-vis a me peace settlement endangers u.s. troops in afghanistan as well as being a threat to our nation's security? why not indict the israel firsters in congress? because article 3 of the consitution defines treason as "levying war against the united states or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort"? but isn't this exactly what israel firsters do? and if the supreme court decides that the acts of these israel firsters don't fit the definition of treason, no big deal, the constitution can be amended so that said acts fit the new definition of treason. alternatively the number of judges in the supreme court could be increased, something that fdr unsuccessfully tried back in the days when the court had the public's trust. today, though, would people care, what with it being stacked with right wing thugs?
there are a few people, myself included, who've been saying this for at least 30 years, but until recently it's been like when a tree falls and nobody's around, is there a noise? and credit the internet for this widening of the discourse.
jewish-americans had plenty of power before 1948. otherwise how would they have convinced president harry truman to commit himself to an entity that continues to threaten an already fragile peace (gunter grass) a mistake in judgement that was to haunt america for the next 64 years.
i understand what you're saying but a quarter century ago i visited the shtetl in southeast poland where my grandparents came from, and, with as many horse draw carts as cars on the road as well as a log cabin still in use, it was apparent to me that the people there were quite poor. and if they're poor then it's unlikely there were a great many rich poles (either jewish or christian) back in the late 19th century. some in warsaw and the other big cities, but poland was mostly rural in the 19th century, so whatever power a few elite jews had, it's unlikely they shared it with their poor brethren. so while coming down on the 1% anywhere & any time is legitimate, isn't generalizing so as to implicate the 99% in the misdeeds of the 1%, like, overreaching a bit?
awakening not only jewish-americans but the rest of the public to the realities in the mideast as well as to the dangers that u.s. support for the zionist entity poses to national security. yes, the process has been annoyingly slow, but only a quarter century ago, change in the u.s.s.r was glacial, but then, presto, it melted. the same thing's going to happen to the zionist entity.
unite to protect ourselves from persecution by taking over palestinine, ethnic cleansing its indigenous people, the palestinians, laying siege to and repeatedly going to war against a million & a half of them in the tiny coastal strip gaza, a war that won't end this side of genocide? oh, i forgot, palestinians deserve this because there was once this mufti from jerusalem?
with a nuclear war* on the horizon the world community can't afford to wait until the fading away of the likes of livni et all.
*two of em, one in the mideast, the other in asia between india and pakistan
yes, it's almost unbelievable that at a time when antisemitism is almost nonexistent, demonic zionism cast its spell on the body politic. then when the backlash to zionism occurs zionists label it antisemitic. of course they can only get away with this if the public accepts their equating zionism with judaism, but, alas, so far seems the public is doing just that, which is why internet sites such as mw & organizations such as jvp are so important. hopefully there's enough time left for us to turn things around.
up until ww ii the social justice wing of judaism dominated in america, which is why jack ross's "the neocons, in fact, are the true self-hating jews, with their pathological hatred of any expression of judaism's traditions of social justice and other affronts to the spartan virtues" rings true. not only true but a useful concept in the push against these neocon israel firsters, because tagging them with the antisemitic label and making it stick means that in their attempts to intimidate nonzionists into silence on the subject of i/p they won't get away with playing the antisemitic card, because if they do the accused can throw the card right back at them. not to forget that the neocons are antisemitic for another reason, which is that since israel insists that it speaks for world jewry, it's brutal treatment of the palestinian people endangers jews everywhere, not to mention all life on earth.
as an entity that has no legitimate raison d'etre, israel. has to contrive ways to justify its existence, such as the "place of refuge", should there be a resurgence of virulent antisemitism. and when there's not only no increase but a decrease in antisemitism, it gets desperate and seizes on incidents, such as the recent murder of 3 jews at a jewish school in toulouse, to put out a call for jewish-french to play it safe by emigrating to the "jewish" homeland. only it's the palestinian's, not the jewish homeland, which is one reason why so few in the so-falled exodus ever seriously consider packing up and going there. not when life, however difficult it may be in the west, isn't laden with fear that the moment of the terrible reckoning is nigh. palestine for the palestinians and however many jews living there decide that that they're willing to live in a land in which there's equality and freedom for all
the purpose behind trying to engage jewish-americans in deciding on what sort of society israel is to delude us into believing that we're really doing something important and meaningful, even though there's about as much chance as a snowball in hell that israel will pay attention to anything we might propose. indeed the only way we possibly can influence the behavior of the settler entity is by our participation in the struggle to sever the u.s.-israel special relationship. it's through such an effort that we jewish-americans have a unique role to play, that of relentlessly exposing neocons for the israel first traitors that they are. we succeed in this effort and the the public will come to realize that our government has to rethink and then change the type of relationship it has with israel.
an appeal to ows
welcome back
now so lean and fit from your winter hibernation
without further adieu how's about focusing upon preventing an iran war?
+ doing something about the u.s.-israel special relationship
the two are intertwined
has to do with averting a nuclear winter
yes, the top 0.1 percent might hold out for a few months deep in the rockies
but us 99.9 percenters?
not to put pressure on you
but please do your thing
you know
general assemblies
leaderless yet everyone a leader
the better to change the world
zionism is the belief that the establishment of a jewish and democratic state in the land of israel is essential for the survival of jewish people?
and never mind that israel has been built by jewish settler colonization of palestine and ethnic cleansing of its native people
and we jewish-americans aren't to concern ourselves with whether israel's actions endanger america, the land that has welcomed and nurtured us?
no thanks, traitorous israel firsters
before i'll turn my back on america and universal human rights, israel can disappear*, and a terribly deformed judaism along with it.**
life will go on
without even a pause
and with doomday everted
*the entity, not its people
**who needs a racist credo?
giving up anything just isn't in the zionist playbook
pbs's MI5 last night had an action drama in which the cia connives with a ficticious pakistanian chief of its armed forces in an attempt to precipitate a nuclear war between pakistan and india (and never mind the millions of pakistanis and indians slaughtered, cause, what the heck, they'd mostly be ghetto-dwellers), purportedly to wipe out the taliban, after which (according to the perpetrators of this scheme) the u.s. & great britain would easily dominate the world. for what it's worth congressman rubio's words echo those of a character in last night's program named Price (head of the cia's european operations), except rubio made no reference to the nuclear winter possibilities brought on by bombs away on syria and iran. art reproducing life or vice versa?
i wonder if at hasbara central there's a computor program that organizes the online activities of its volunteer and paid online posters. i say this because there seems to be a certain rhythm to the coming and going of hasbarists, with very few regulars, more who stay for a variable period of time, then disappear (banned?), only to be replaced by someone else. from what annie says about other sites where they pop in, they must be sent out in waves, suggesting that their's a period of training after which they're turned loose in an attempt to wreak havoc on the internet.
you're talking about the ethnic cleansing, aren't you? that crime against humanity that palestinians refer to as the nakba?
on his initial try he got a high percentage of his campaign money from "little" people, and he could this election too if only he'd run on a peace platform (& meant it). it's just as likely, though, that the second time around hardly anyone would believe his promises, which would serve him right.
amazing that at a time when a pro-peace initiative could win him a second term, he clings to his israel firstness, a mistake that's going to cost him dearly. and isn't there anyone among our president's advisers who's willing to tell him that the american people don't want another permanent war?
jewish zionists know that for them there's no victimhood here in america, they keep pretending there is so as to keep the myth alive about the zionist entity israel as their sanctuary should things turn bad for them in america. but once palestine is liberated/israel delegitimized, since there's nowhere's else where we jews have it as good for ourselves as here in the u.s. of a., jewish zionists will have to face up to the reality that not only is there no longer a mideast sanctuary for them, but that america's always been and remains their true homeland. will jewish-american zionists adjust? well, based on the the rapid growth of jewish antizionist organizations such as jvp it looks like they're beginning to, and once the zionist entity israel* is no more they'll have no choice other than to adjust, and then we'll find out whether gilad atzmon's thesis about jews being incurably addicted to victimhood is valid or not.
*the entity, not its people
most certainly conditions for those sent to nazi concentration camps met the specs for producing "learned helplessness", yet in order to justify its existence israel looks upon them as having been sheeps led to the slaughter. it's not as if there aren't other examples of mass murder in which the victims put up no or hardly any resistance. during the past century alone, the armenian and the tutsi genocides, for example, not to mention the japanese rape of nanking and the u.s. assisted indonesian annihilation of chinese communists. do these boastful self-aggrandized jewish nationalists in israel really believe that if they'd been the ones seized by well armed stormtroopers and sent to nazi concentration camps 67+ years ago, they'd have resisted? no more than in bank robberies, many of which take place every day in america, when told to hit the floor and keep quiet, how often do panicked customers or bank employees put up a fight? face it, zionists, the romantic concept that you would never go down without performing some heroic act is hogwash and you know it!
"this memory of suffering allows us to empathize and ally ourselves with the struggles of oppressed peoples throughout the world." -
except when the oppressed are palestinians and the oppressors happen to be jewish colonialists from europe and elsewhere. such hypocrisy undermines the very concept of liberal zionism. what instead? not only the delegitimization of the jewish settler entity israel but the disowning of zionism, the racist doctrine that gave birth to it. delegitimization can be realized by a combination of struggle from within occupied palestine together with international pressure spearheaded by bds, whereas, the disowning of zionism is mostly up to the jewish community, although here pressure from the general public would be both helpful and welcome. but for the disownment of zionism to gain traction there has to be a split between those jewish-americans who put human rights before the existence of the racist entity israel and those who put said entity first, as well as a split between those who prefer to live in the inclusiveness of the 21st century and those who cling to the exclusivity of antiquity. the type of battle, for example, that's being waged every day on mondoweiss.net.
and as an economist he could have described how these perpetual wars in the mideast and southwest asia + the trillion or so america spends on its military and intelligence impact our tottering economy.
comparing iran and the zionist entity, aside from a few iranian dissenters (discounting the iranian govt's claim that they were traitors) who have received the death penalty, how many people has iran killed in wars? and even allowing for however many lives iran supported hamas and hezbullah militias have taken, how does this compare to the 18,000 lives u.s.-sponsored israel took in its summer'82 + its 2006 wars on lebanon, not to mention the nakba and operation cast lead? and the iran-iraq war of the 80s doesn't count in this discussion because it was started by u.s.-backed iraq's invasion of iran. and just last week how many palestinians were killed by idf/settler militia versus how many israelis did iran & its lebanese/palestinian allies murder? put it all together and who's the real & consistant threat in the mideast?
except that the losses from a nuclear winter would be at least comparable to those suffered in the holocaust?
not yet at war with iran but mobilizing its armed forces and arming israel for that eventuality, such that, if it happens there'll be no doubt as to u.s. involvement. but with or without direct u.s. involvement initially, subsequently one can count on the u.s. government's dragging us into the conflict. history will record an israeli attack on iran to have been the equivalent of nazi germany's invasion of poland, the move credited for having started wwii, except this time israel's move will bring on ww iii. will israel survive such a conflagration? will life on earth?
given that time's running out on account of perpetual war + economic collapse + global warming = doomsday
and that vision + spirit + plan = change
where vision = a just and peaceful world
spirit = that of the leaderless yet everyone a leader movements of tahrir square and ows
plan = whatever bursts forth from the incubator of collective action that is the movement's general assembly
and right now isn't it obvious that either we prevent this iran war or it's get ready for the call for the last one out to please turn off the lights?
being that an iran war will enable the power elite to shut down whatever is left of the open and free society, devoid of which......
leaving us then with how many months left before the unthinkable stares us in the face?
so occupy movement, looking for a cause that can unite us all?
preventing an iran war?
yes, that's the one!
president obama will always be there for israel? is that why he isn't here for america?
they support getting back their homeland. besides, any palestinian, christian, muslim, atheist, whether in palestine or elsewhere, doesn't matter, you'll hear the same thing or a version thereof.
on the rare occasions when someone appears on msm with anything other than the official israeli take on the i/p conflict, invariably a zionist is there to "set the record straight." and it's not always zionists contacting msm and demanding "balance", msm, fearing a zionist backlash, sometimes contacts them in an effort to minimize their "losses" (ie sponsors cancelling?). i learned this when i was invited to appear on tv stations after returning from witnessing the 1982 u.s.-backed israeli invasion of lebanon. on one station the newscaster who invited me said that in order to provide balance there'd be a spokesperson for the other side, and sure enough there was. i was ready for him, though, because when he came up with the one about israel being the only democracy in the mideast, i countered with israel is like a mad dog running amok that needs to be put on a leash. it felt good, too, like i'd delivered a knock-out punch.
thanks, pabelmont, just sent a congratulatory email to cbs. we need a tide of such messages to counter the zionist lies.
lt. col. shalom eisner
with his rifle he smashed a danish cyclist in the face
thereby disqualifying himself from membership in the human race
israelis say don't rush to judgement based on this one bad apple
after all
in the fog of war
mistakes do happen
so cut the colonel some slack
except war against peaceful protesters
in syria that's cause for u.n. sanctions and calls for military intervention
why not in palestine?
treating cognitive dissonance (wikipedia) -
Cognitive dissonance theory warns that people have a bias to seek consonance among their cognitions/{behaviors}. According to Festinger, we engage in a process he termed "dissonance reduction", which he said could be achieved in one of three ways: lowering the importance of one of the discordant factors, adding consonant elements, or changing one of the the dissonant factors.
assuming that among the discordant factors potentially causing dissonance in zionists is their belief that israel is a peace seeking nation which contrasts with the reality of israel's criminal behavior towards the palestinians. the zionist's tendency to dehumanize the palestinian lowers the importance of said criminal behavior, falling for the myth about israel being the only democracy in the region adds a consonant element, whereas, deciding that israel's being jewish trumps its being democratic, raises the bar, so to speak, on a potentially dissonant element.
since dehumanization is less likely to occur among people immersed in a multicultural environment, the increasing separatism within occupied palestine
is not encouraging. meanwhile, from a quick review of wikepedia's material on cognitive dissonance (+ personal experience, of course), seems to me that increasing the "price" (shame, embarrassment, public disdain) that zionists must pay for not letting go of their zionist entity (along with the threat that leading israel firsters could be tried for treason*) is what it's going to take to bring sanity to u.s. policies toward the mideast.
*based on their giving support to a foreign entity deemed to be an enemy of the u.s. of a.
the anti-zionist movement finds a way to turn the public against an iran war and the beginning of the collapse will be underway