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  • UNC SJP responds to ongoing debate over cancellation of Rania Khalek event
    • She is a pro-Palestinian Lebanese Arab, and she identifies like that.

      Druze are a religion and not an ethnicity.

  • Finders Keepers in the Holy Land: So who was there first?
    • Sorry to disappoint you but Kurds are not from the region, and they are not Semites, their homeland is in Anatolia and western Iran.

      Kurds are a linguistic group (like Arabs and Latinos) and not an ethnic one ,Kurds are a mix of Persians and turks (khazars) and their language is an Iranian language and not a Semitic one. Some Kurds drifted to the Levant recently including lebanon (Druze are partially Kurds)

      Recent Genetic study of Ancient remain dating to the bronze age found in Palestine showed them to resemble Modern Palestinians. on the other hand modern Ashkenazi Jews like you resemble people who lived in north Anatolia and not the Levant.

      http://www.timesofisrael.com/new-dna-tech-pinpoints-yiddish-origins-to-north-turkey/

  • Obama 'betrayed' American Jews and Trump is a 'swineherd' -- Bernard-Henri Levy
  • Netanyahu has isolated Israel and is driving the US 'off a cliff into chaos' -- Lloyd Doggett
    • Sorry to disappoint you but according to security council Resolution 2334 , both the Alburaq Wall "Western Wall" and Al Haram Alsharif are Occupied Palestinian territories.

      The resolution passed 14-0 and countries that voted in favor includes China, Japan, France and the UK.

  • Democratic politicians want no part of Obama's courage at the U.N.
    • "Let me be clear: the only way to resolve this conflict is – and will always be – through direct, bilateral negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians."

      Then why do you condemn Palestinians for rejecting the Partition plan which was imposed on Palestinians without any form of direct negotiations .

  • Scenes from Gaza on the last day of 2016
  • Alan Dershowitz has threatened to leave the Democratic Party if Keith Ellison becomes chair
  • John Kerry gives the 'separate but not equal' speech to Israel
  • Kerry hasn't cleared his throat, and Trump and Hoyer are jumping down it
  • Breaking: UN Security Council passes historic resolution against settlements as two-state solution 'slips away'
  • Desperate Netanyahu lectures Obama about US responsibility to veto UN resolution
  • Forced existence
    • Palestine in 1896 (oldest video of Palestine)

      "In that regard, it's worth quoting one of the most ardent Zionists, Israel Zangwill,
      who stated as early as 1905, that Palestine was twice as thickly populated as the
      United States. He stated:

      "Palestine proper has already its inhabitants. The pashalik of Jerusalem
      is already twice as thickly populated as the United States, having fifty-two
      souls to the square mile, and not 25% of them Jews ..... [We] must be prepared
      either to drive out by the sword the [Arab] tribes in possession as our
      forefathers did or to grapple with the problem of a large alien population, mostly
      Mohammedan and accustomed for centuries to despise us." (Righteous Victims,
      p. 140 & Expulsion Of The
      Palestinians, p. 7-10)"

      http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Palestine-Remembered/Story414.html

    • Ai BIrd

      Labeling something a FACT doesnot make it such, your long comment lakes any fact actually .

      "Why should Israel share her power with their enemy, the Palestinians? Did the US shared power with Nazi Germany? "

      Is comparing Palestinians to Nazis acceptable in this website.

  • Hell just froze over: the New York Times runs an article saying Zionism is racist
    • "Who CARES, for Heaven’s sake! We need to keep DNA discussions, the modern equivalent of “purity of blood,”"

      Zionists Care, see how hophmi was pissed off.

      I personally agree with you that DNA and History are irrelevant everywhere including Palestine.

    • This is called Ancient DNA, and recently geneticists have developed a method to extract intact samples form old remains and the results just started to be published.

      A recent study (The genetic structure of the world's first farmers) by a Harvard Univ. Professor Iosif Lazaridis included Bronze age samples (4000 BC) from the Levant and the samples matched modern day Palestinians.

      More interestingly, even older Neolithic (9000 BC) and Natufian (12000BC) samples also were closest to modern day Palestinians.

      Geneticist Eran Elhaik wrote about these this in his recent study:

      "Interestingly, in a recent ancient DNA analysis of six Natufians and a Levantine Neolithic (Lazaridis et al., 2016), some of the likely Judaean progenitors (Finkelstein and Silberman, 2002; Frendo, 2004), the ancient individuals clustered predominantly with modern-day Palestinians and Bedouins and marginally overlapped with Arabian Jews. Ashkenazic Jews clustered away from these ancient Levantine individuals and adjacent to Neolithic Anatolians and Late Neolithic and Bronze Age Europeans."

      http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/10.3389/fgene.2016.00141/full#

  • Historical evidence does not support Zionist claims re the Western Wall
  • Adelson delivered! Now it's Trump's turn
    • If you add up all the contributions you wont even reach 30 million!

      That is a very cheap price to buy the American foreign policy.

  • New anti-Semitism legislation may stifle campus activism for Palestinian rights
  • It is time to imagine how one state-- one person, one vote-- will work
  • Sheldon Adelson, Trump's billionaire backer, is committed to 'the Jewish people' and believes Palestinians are a 'made up people'
    • Zuheir Mohsen was an Arab Nationalist, so for him the Arab Identity should prevail over all other.

      The Arab identity itself is a 20th century product formed and promoted by the British as a response to the Ottoman Empire (Islamic Identity) and it is already fading away.

      Grab any history book and you will see that the area have been called Palestine and its people Palestinians throughout the Islamic History.

      I can provide examples if you want .

    • "the Jews have the Jewish historical heritage that goes back thousands of years."

      National Myths and Hallucinations does not entitle you to anything.

    • "Historically it appears that they only defined themselves very recently as a xenophobic reaction to the Zionist project where their own real credo is the destruction of Israel. "

      The Area have been called Palestine and its people the Palestinians throughout the Islamic history.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jund_Filastin

      The second part is correct, our credo is to destroy the Nazi state of Israel.

  • Jerusalem mayor says he will demolish Palestinian homes if gov't dismantles settlement outpost
  • Western leaders grow deaf to Israeli abuses
  • 'Ethnic cleansing' becomes 'No ethnic cleansing' in Israeli history by Benny Morris
    • The Ethnic cleansing of Palestinians by the Israelis is a fact but even if the Arabs left under the orders of the Arab Armies or because they were afraid they still have the right to return after the end of the war.

  • In full page NYT ad, liberal Zionist group calls for ethnic segregation to retain Jewish majority within Israel
    • Actually , In June 2016 The number of Palestinians living in historical Palestine have exceeded the number of Jews for the first time since the Nakba.

      The Palestinian census is scheduled in 2017 and of course Israel is not going to allow it.

  • Dozens of Spanish cities declare themselves ‘Free of Israeli Apartheid’
  • Marc Lynch warns against the U.S. escalation in Syria
    • The beheaded boy was a Palestinian boy named Ahmad Issa from handarat refugee camp near Aleppo.

      The perpetrates were form Nour aldin Zinki brigades known as Zinki, and they are armed by the US, they are also accused of using chemical weapons they stole from Assad against the part of Aleppo controlled by the Syrian Government.

      They are ten times more savage than ISIS, but they are the US guy, so you dont hear about them.

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  • Syrian death tolls and the kinder gentler jihadists
    • The myth of Human shields again.

      The ration of civilian death to the total deaths in Syria is much lower than in Israel's Genocide campaigns in Gaza.

      Maybe Israel should learn from Asad how to fight instead of using the myth of human shields to justify its atrocities.

  • Scottish football fans raise over 100,000 pounds for Palestine following flag controversy
  • A new milestone: BDS at the Olympics
  • After Palestinian takes gold in Rio for Jordan, Israelis claim his roots are 'Israeli'
    • East Bank Jordanians are Palestinians biggest supporters, but i cannot say the same thing about the regime and some in the military and Intelligence.

      Their logic is that we gave you a spot that could have been given to a Jordanian.

    • I dont think you should interview Ahmad.
      The Jordanian authorities will not tolerate it if Ahmad spoke of his Palestinian origins.

      When a Palestinian representing Jordan won a famous singing contest and showed pride in his Palestinian roots . there was a backclash from the Jordanian authorities and some east bank Jordanians against him and his family and they were accused of being traitors.

      If you want to interview them . first check if they are comfortable about it.
      Jordan is not a democracy.

    • I just watched an interview with the Parents of Ahmad and others from his original town Imwas (Palestine) and not Abo Ghoush.

      In the interview they spoke about their family and Village and described how they were expelled and striped of all their belongings.

      The Abo Ghoush family lives in several towns and not just Abo Ghoush town.

      The Father of Ahmad is from the town of Imwas and his mother is form the West Bank.

      Imwas was depopulated completely in 1967 along with Bayt Nuba and Yalo ,and Yetzhak Rabin carried the out the Ethnic cleansing personally and then leveled the town with explosives.

      Ahmad father (18 years old) fled to Alrusaifeh (Alzarqa) In Jordan and they live there until this very day.

      Ahmad was born in Alzarqa Jordan and not "Israel".

      "Captured by the Israeli Defense Forces during the Six-Day War on June 7, 1967 along with the neighbouring villages of Yalo and Bayt Nuba, the villagers of Imwas were expelled and the village destroyed on the orders of Yitzhak Rabin. Today the area of the former village lies within Canada Park, which was established by the Jewish National Fund in 1973."

      Ahmad
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imwas

      The Interview (Arabic).

    • Mayhem,

      Great , then allow the refugees form this town to return home rather than stay in Refugee camps in the west bank (Qalandiya) and Jordan.

      "The tires of 28 cars in the Arab village of Abu Ghosh near Jerusalem were slashed early Tuesday morning. Graffiti reading "racism or assimilation" and "Arabs out" was sprayed on nearby walls. One of cars belongs to former Knesset Speaker Avraham Burg."

      http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4393746,00.html

      "The terrorists - Ibrahim Alan, 22, from Beit Ur al-Tahta near Highway 443, and Hussein Abu Ghosh, 17, from the Qalandiya refugee camp, who is affiliated with Hamas - came into the settlement from the nearby wadi, jumping over the settlement's fence."

      http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4757613,00.html

      Model for Coexistence!

  • Jill Stein defends BDS in CNN town hall
  • Druze Arabs in the occupied Golan Heights discuss borders, identity, colonialism and war
    • True Misterioso,

      They are the only religion in this planet that doesnot allow people to join them!

      And no one really knows what they really believe or who they are and they refuse to tell you when you ask them and feel very uncomfortable as happened with me several times.

    • Druze are a Religious group of multiple backgrounds, mostly of Turkish/ Kurdish descent, some are Arabs (Tanukhi Tribe) and maybe few are local to the Levant.

      They are a secretive and closed religion that branched of Islam by the heretic Muhammad ad-Darazi ( Persian), from which they took their name.

      In Lebanon and Syria they are staunch Arab Nationalists and in Israel they are the biggest enemies of the Arabs, and unlike the Christian Palestinians , they actually serve in the IDF in massive numbers, they are one of the least educated and poorest people in the middle east .

      They are an opportunist cult , though there is a growing movement among them that rejects serving in the military and stresses their Arab/Palestinian Identity (The educated).

      https://www.facebook.com/irefuse.info/about/?entry_point=page_nav_about_item

  • Olympian at the checkpoint: why a Palestinian swimmer couldn't train in Jerusalem
  • Canadian Greens back BDS
  • Video: Israeli soldier throws 8-year old Palestinian girl's bike into bushes
  • Who has ever succeeded in taming patriotism?
  • Israeli rabbi who advocated rape of 'comely gentile women' during war becomes chief army rabbi
    • Few days ago Zionazis complained that Jeremy Corbyn compared ISIS to Israel!

      The comparison is even more legit now.

      Imagine how many innocent Palestinians did this Nazi kill during his service.

  • As Dems vote against Palestine, Cornel West warns it is the 'Vietnam War' of our time
    • "Now Jews have returned and we are staying"

      Staying only for a while since this is not their homeland in the first place.

  • Answering Yair Lapid's (contemptuous) questions about refugees
    • I am a Palestinian refugee and i dont know anyone in my extended family and friends that does not want to return to Palestine ,despite being refugees in Jordan and having the Jordanian nationality.

      The claim that refugees would rather stay in the horrible refugee camps than go back to their field and homes in Palestine is absurd.

      Yes, no one wants to go back to a Jewish state that expelled them in the first place, but when the state is transformed to be for all its inhabitant everything change and that is what they all want.

  • Pregnant Palestinian woman, 27, is killed in Hebron
  • Palestinian teen is killed after allegedly killing 13-year-old Jewish girl in settlement
  • BDS campaign hopes to take Israeli goods off Palestinian dinner tables during Ramadan
  • Michael Lerner brings down the house at Muhammad Ali funeral by standing up for Palestinians and against Netanyahu
    • "After announcing his retirement from the ring in 1974, Ali lost no time in throwing right hooks at Zionism and embracing the Palestinian cause. Talking to reporters in Beirut, Lebanon, at the start of a tour of the Middle East, Ali said that “the United States is the stronghold of Zionism and imperialism.”
      On a subsequent visit to two Palestinian refugee camps in southern Lebanon, the former heavyweight boxing champion was quoted by a news agency as saying: “In my name and the name of all Muslims in America, I declare support for the Palestinian struggle to liberate their homeland and oust the Zionist invaders.”

      http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/news/1.723042

    • "Ali was one of the few and first notable Americans to voice unqualified support for Palestinians in our struggle against Zionism's settler-colonial project in Palestine.

      Many of those who got up to praise and eulogise him would be among the first to persecute a contemporary athlete if he/she would dare to embark on the moral path Ali walked decades ago when he went to a Palestinian refugee camp and said openly, "I declare support for the Palestinian liberation struggle"."

      http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2016/06/greatest-black-man-supported-palestinians-muhammad-ali-160612050518697.html

  • Following Tel Aviv attack, Israel freezes Ramadan travel permits for Palestinians and seals West Bank village
    • "Bill Clinton understands it. Ehud Olmert understands it. Bibi even gets it"

      The former Israeli Foreign Minister Shlomo ben Ami who lead the Israeli negotiation team at the Camp David summit himself said that if he was a Palestinian he would have the rejected the offer.

      http://www.democracynow.org/2006/2/14/fmr_israeli_foreign_minister_if_i

    • "Not a comment from a family member"

      Your wish is my command, here is a statement by the father of one of the Israelis killed (who was a commando in the terrorrist IDF) :

      "Last night, after the attack, the prime minister and two of his ministers arrived and yet another security cabinet issued decrees — not to return corpses, to put up barriers, to destroy houses, and to make lives harder. These solutions create suffering, hatred, despair and [lead] to more people joining the circle of terror,” he said. “What’s needed is a solution rather than saying all the time that there’s nobody to make peace with. We chose you to stop the cycle of blood, already 49 years you’ve been trying to solve things tactically and you haven’t succeeded. The time has come for a strategic solution,” the father said."

      http://www.timesofisrael.com/at-funeral-sarona-victims-father-urges-solution-to-conflict/

      And Here is the Mayor of Tel Aviv:

      "“Our leaders through the years have said that the lands [on which settlements are built] are the basis on which a future [Palestinian] state can be built. The problem is when there is no terror, there are no discussions, and when there are talks, we say there can’t be terror attacks,” he went on.

      “We can’t keep these people in a reality in which they are occupied and [expect] them to reach the conclusion that everything is all right and that they can continue living this way,”"

      http://www.timesofisrael.com/tel-aviv-mayor-links-terror-attack-to-occupation-sparking-outcry/

  • Yehuda Glick's meteoric rise from messianic margins to Israeli parliament
    • Tokyobok

      "Jews have the right to pray at the site of the Temple "

      Their right to pray at the temple ended when the temple (whenever it was) was destroyed.

      "only basis for a free I/P is rooted in equal treatment and the protection of minority groups "

      Equal treatment and minority groups protection doesn’t include forcing your self on someone else’s house of worship.

      "None of the texts of the three faiths deny a Jewish connection "

      There is no mention of a Jewish connection to Jerusalem in the Quran, Actually Jerusalem is not mentioned in the Quran, the Only mention is for the Alaqsa Mosque and the right Journey.

      "legitimate Jewish citizens would shouldn’t have access and protection in any part of historic Palestine."

      The settler colonialists who come to Palestine in the 20th Century are not legitimate citizens.
      The only legitimate citizens of Palestine (river to sea) are the Palestinians.

    • Alkhalil, Alquds and Nablus.

      As for your equal rights Max, Freedom of worship and equal l rights doesn't include forcing your self on someone else's house of worship.

      Your right to pray at the temple ended when the temple (whenever it was) was destroyed.

  • 'I am Palestinian and I am human' -- and Leanne Mohamad, 15, is disqualified from UK speaking competition
    • Barmalei

      "And the context is that Palestinian kids die because Hamas is using population of Gaza as human shields (ISIS is doing the same thing this very minute – please go condemn it on another forum)"

      You cannot make a rational argument based on a factually incorrect assumption.

      The Human shield is myth and an excuse that Israel keeps repeating and it wasn't confirmed by any neutral third party, actually the Investigations showed the opposite.

      ". If Hamas cared about Palestinians as humans – and not as tools and pawns to achieve the goal of destroying Israel"

      Then, as a rational commentator, please do not forget to provide some context of the subject discussed, something that you – who is overly emotional – clearly cannot do. And the context is that Hamas was formed to end a 7 decade occupation and to return 7 million refugees that were expelled from their homes in 1948 by a nation foreign to this region.

      "you will see that up until the start of Israeli blockade Gaza was definitely not the worse of them"

      Provide evidence for this statement.

      "Now imagine where would Gaza be if it were not for Hamas and its delusional like"

      No need to imagine, just look at the economical development of Muslims, christian and druze in Israel and the huge gap in wealth between them and Jews, not to mention the higher unemployment , lack of infrastructure and investment in their communities and low contribution to the country's GDP.

      "(ISIS is doing the same thing this very minute – please go condemn it on another forum)."

      Mentioning ISIS which came into being 7 decades after Israel ethnically cleansed the Palestinians and stole their homeland and which have nothing to do with Palestine is an "Appeal to emotions" fallacy which shows how deprived you are to of any rational argument.

      You are being too emotional and driven by a tribal mentality my friend.

  • Israeli 'chutzpah' versus Palestinian 'sumud'
  • Calling Israel a 'modern day miracle' and 'vibrant bloom in desert,' Clinton says BDS is anti-Semitic
  • Reebok backtracks on Israel Independence Day-inspired sneaker (Updated)
    • Jakdaw

      Provide evidence for the expulsion of the Jews form Arab land , and specifically for the 500000 number.

      Jordan gave All Palestinian refugees the Jordanian nationality and today they number 4,000,000.

  • Democratic Party is now split over Israel, and Clinton and Sanders represent opposing camps, says Pew
  • Donald Trump has one proposal to unite a fractured Republican party -- Islamophobia
    • " ISrael doesnt have the death penalty and is based on jewish law."

      Jewish law calls for the death penalty for dozens of crimes including apostasy, adultery and not observing the Sabbath .

      And Israel dont enforce the death penalty, because that would require a trial and a big mess, they just executes Palestinians extrajudiciary.

      "Islamic regimes DO have the death penalty"

      So do Japan and the US.

      " and is based on sharia law"

      Sharia law is enforced only in few Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran, the remaining Muslim countries are secular including Palestine, Jordan,ALgeria,morocco,Tunisia, Malasia Turkey...etc

      And in Sharia, the death penalty is controversial except in murder( unless the family of the murdered waves it).

      "People ARE being sentenced to death and going to jail for apostasy and being gay."

      Apostasy killings are rare cases (anecdotes) and often extrajudicial by mobs in isolated villages.

      And gay killing doesnot exist at all.

      Also , Kindly provide a statistic fro your claim to see if it is a real issue.

      "People are losing limbs for theft."

      Saudi Arabia, Iran and maybe Sudan the remaining 54 Muslim countries dont.

      " Women are being beaten and clerics and imams are teaching how to do it so it doesnt show."

      I never claimed that Islamic countries are oasis of freedom or women rights, i just dont like exaggeration and double standards.

      "Honor killings are ignored in islamic regimes because its a normal way of life"

      Kindly Provide a statistics to see if it is really a normal way of life or Zip it.

      "Im sorry you feel islamic regimes are being picked on"

      I dont care about Islamic countries or any other country in the world for that matter, if Muslim countries do bad, i speak up, but dont Blulshit us with Fox news propaganda.

      "but maybe they should grow up, not make it illegal to build churches"

      The Muslim world is a museum of churches ,synagogues and Hindu temples that has been there for hundreds and thousands of years unharmed.

      "and not have the death penatly for someone’s belief in god"

      No such thing exist.

    • it is not whataboutry because I condemn stoning and honor killing .

      It is hypocrisy from your ilk to be obsessed with Islam and a non existing issue like stoning which is not practiced even by the most fundamentalist countries like Saudi Arabia.

      And Honor killing is not Islamic and it is so rare to constitute an issue.

      Let me piss you even more:

      "'If a priest's daughter defiles herself by becoming a prostitute, she disgraces her father; she must be burned in the fire." Lev 21-9

      http://biblehub.com/leviticus/21-9.htm

      If you have Islamic texts linking women virginity with honor please provide me with it.

    • Stop whining like a child.

      If you want to discuss and accuse Islam and point out Quranic verses about women or violence, you must address the parts in the bible/talmud that contains the same things ( actually more), and having a specific teaching practiced or not is irrelevant in the discussion about the religious text itself.

      Furthermore, stoning is not practiced nor is honor killing legalized in any Muslim country anyway.

  • Here are 6 incidents of Islamophobia on campus in the last week
  • Israeli soldier filmed executing wounded Palestinian man
    • " the terrorist’s coat appeared to be covering an explosive vest and poor Ramzi was still twitching around."

      In a civilized world, you dont kill people because they " Appear" to be doing something.

      besides his coat seemed normal,and twitching is not a crime and the video is clear that he was not a danger and he was totally normal.

      "it would be negligent not to take that threat into account."

      The soldiers and medics around him disagrees with you and they didnot show any fear of a bomb and acted normally, which proves that it is an execution .Period.

      "When dealing with people with a penchant for blowing themselves up around as many Jews as possible, "

      The attack happened in the west bank and Palestinians have the right to attack, blow and kill the occupying forces, the Palestinian should be given a medal.

      "There will be an inquiry (unlike the palestinians) and the solider will be exonerated. Meanwhile we needn’t worry about this terrorist being released next time a Jew is kidnapped."

      Because of the tape, while other incidents will pass without a trial.

  • Netanyahu slams Abbas in wake of killing of American tourist
    • "More and more Muslims are seeing the light "

      Too late...... the trend have shifted the last decade, and the only people who is gaining more support are the Palestinians.

      Just ask , Finkelstein, Blumenthal,Weiss and other Jews.

    • "Zaid has no justification for what he says about the alleged heritage of the Palestinians"

      Unlike you i actually explained and provided evidence to what i claimed and here is more :

      " today, Palestinians, Jordanians, Lebanese,
      Syrians, and some Turks, are among
      those of haplogroup E1b1b1c1 and direct descendants
      of ancient peoples – the creators of
      the civilizations of the Eastern Mediterranean."

      http://www.molgen.org/rjgg/index.php/RJGG/article/viewFile/48/59

      If science, History and Archaeology is not an evidence, then what is evidence.

      Now your turn , explain to me Please:

      Why (as per your zionist theory) was Palestine left empty unlike its surrounding ! was it a parking lot for the Islamic caliphate! or was it left for Jinns ! and how come Muslims and Christians deserted their holy cities ! and did they prefer to live in the desert of Jordan ,Syria and Arabia over the fertile Galil and Tabrias ! and what happened to the people who lived in the area before Islam!did they evaporate! or was there an unreported genocide! and how come Islam converted every nation it came across (Turks, Persians, Arabs,Egyptians,Indian..etc) except of the inhabitant s of Palestine, were they particularly immune to Islam! and if the Arab conquest included a population replacement , then why didnot this replacement happen to Persia and the rest of the Muslim world and how could few thousands of Arabs populate and overwhelm a region with millions of people!

      And finally, if the Jewish exile is true then how come alot of Jews continued to live in Palestine after 70 AC .

      "who are basically a hodgepodge of ring-ins from all of the Middle East and beyond."

      Projection.

      You know full well who are the hodgpodges in Palestine , and it is not us.

    • “It is good to know that Palestinian Arabs are in fact descended from Canaanite non-Arabs."

      Of course they are , and that is why there is no genetic / physical difference between Muslim and christian Palestinians, or Muslim and christian Syrians , lebanese...etc. and that is why Levantines have more similarity (Genetic/Physical) to each other than to the Gulf Arabs.

      "And the famous Husseini family of Jerusalem, who came in the 12th century."

      Great, so their presence is centuries older than the European Ashkenazi Jews (Ashkenazi means European / German).

      Wait , what happened to "They came after Jews made the desert bloom in the 20th Century"!!

      Some families claimed Arab descent (Like the prophet Muhammd descent) to gain the honor and leadership like Al Husseini Family but in reality they are the descendants of the indigenous population of the Lavant (Aramaic/Canaanites).

      "And the equally famous Nashashibis of Jerusalem, who are of Kurdish/Turkoman or Arabian peninsula origin."
      And the Abu Ghoshes, who came around the time of the Crusades, possibly from Europe.
      And the Barghoutis, who came from the Bani Zeid clan who arrived after the Crusades as well.
      And the Al Khalil family, from Mecca.
      And the Khazens, who are from Lebanon."
      And the Qudwa and Arafat families, who came from Aleppo, Syria"

      So you belive that all the countries in the region were inhabited except of Palestine with all its history, fertility and religious importance for an unknown reason! ........So convenient for the Zionists ! but yet it is still Irrational.

      "And the Dajanis, originally from Arabia but whose first resident came to Palestine from Spain and Morocco."

      The Dajani is named after their village Beit Dajan north of Palestine.

      "And even the Nabulsi family, who are named after the town of Nablus, but Nablus only got that Arabicized name in the 7th century."

      It is name is Flavia Neapolis and the name predates the Arab conquest.

      "And the Hejazis from Arabia, Mughrabis from Morocco, Masris from Egypt, Houranis from Syria, Turkis and Dogmushes from Turkey, Yamanis from Yemen, Jaziris from Algeria, Hindis from India, Kurdis from Kurdistan, Halabis from Aleppo, Trabelsis (Tripoli), Sudanis (Sudan), Faranjis (French), and Shamis (Syria)."

      There are very few Palestinins family names like theses and the majority are named after Palestinian cities and villages like Rantis (village of Rantis) ,Barqawi (village of Barqa) Haifawi (Haifa), Nabulsi (Nablus), Safadi (Safad)...etc.

      Or they have random names after professions like Haddad (Blacksmith) or Najjar (Carpenter) or Random names Like Abbas, Yassin or Just random things like Seif (Sword) , Muftah (Key).

      Some Families who worked with trade got their family names as per the place they used to import or visit alot , and they became associated with and later it became their family name like ALmasri family which used to trade with Egypt , or Alhindi family which used to import rice from Hind (India).

      The people of the Levant didnot have family names until recently, During the ottoman era all people were given names after various things.

      "But besides every famous Palestinian Arab clan, sure, everyone else must be Canaanites.”

      They are all a mixture of people who settled throughout the ages and surely modern Palestinians are as close as it can get to a Canaanite, and between them and the Blue eyed blonde haired European colonist who came just few decades ago , there are no contest.

      Origins is not defined by family myths/ stories about their past (few Palestinian families claimed Arab descent for its honor) but rather by Archaeology , Genetics and Objective History, and that all points to the fact that modern Palestinians, Syrian and Lebanese are the descendants of those who lived in the Levant thousands of years before Islam.

      Besides, even the Arabs (Authentic) are original from Palestine and the Levant area and they too have more legitimate claim to the Land than the Slavic/Khazar/European Jews (Arabic is a western Semitic Language that branched from the proto- Canaanite language and the Arabic script is Aramaic in Origin).

      *Genetics of Palestinians and other Levantines:

      "In this study, we have used a combination of novel and published data to explore the Y-chromosomal landscape of the Levant and its surrounding regions. On a large geographical scale, the Levantine samples clustered together and were readily distinguished from North African or Arabian Peninsula samples"-Geographical Structure of the Y-chromosomal Genetic Landscape of the Levant: A coastal-inland contrast

      *Khazar Origin of Ashkenasi Jews:

      http://forward.com/news/israel/175912/jews-a-race-genetic-theory-comes-under-fierce-atta/

      *Archaeology debunks the myth of exile and proves modern Palestinians are the descendant so indigenous population of Palestine:

    • The mention of "Jews" "inheritance" and "preferred nation" was in the contents of the story of Moses, and is not indefinite.

      Again , Jews are not a racial group but a religious group, just like Muslims/ children of Abraham are a religious group

      After Jesus came , Christians became the preferred nation and when Muhammad came the Muslims became the preferred ones and hey shall inherit the land.

      That is the classic Islamic understanding, and of course it is as irrelevant in modern times and politics as the Bible.

    • Mayhem,

      Your understanding of history and Quran is flawed.

      Historically:

      Modern Jews have nothing to do with ancient Jews who themselves were invaders of the Land of the Canaanites who are the ancestors of modern Palestinians and modern Arabs (The only known Semites in the world for sure).

      Quranicaly:

      There is nothing in the Quran about Jews or any other people being the Indigenous people of Palestine, actually Palestine is not mentioned in the Quran by Name nor is Jerusalem.

      The only reference to Palestine is actually a reference to The Alaqsa Mosque with regards to Muhammad Night Journey. That is it.

      You can belive that Jews in the era of David/Solomon lived in China and you will still be consistent with the Quran.

      And even that land already had an indigenous population before Jews.

      “They said: “O Moses! In this land are a people of exceeding strength: Never shall we enter it until they leave it: if (once) they leave, then shall we enter” Quran/ Yousef Ali

      So the “Land” were already inhabited by an indigenous population (the ones Abraham settled among and preached) , and because Jews were running from persecution, they were allowed to live there without expelling the indigenous population.

      Furthermore , In the Quran , Jews are a religious group and not a racial group. And while the Quran allowed the Jews to live in the holy land (whenever that is) when they were the righteous people ,were following the path of God and were persecuted, this “Inheritance” is not infinite , and now according to the Quran the Muslims are the righteous people and true followers of God and they inherit not just Palestine but beyond.

      “AND, INDEED, after having exhorted [man], 100 We laid it down in all the books of divine wisdom that My righteous servants shall inherit the earth” Quran/Asad

      Inheret ” أورثنا” In Arabic Literally means it became your after it was someones else in the past.

      That is the Classic teaching of the Quran and that is why Prophet Muhammad Disciplines Omar and Abu baker Conquered Palestine and the Whole middle east

      And some Muslims ( Prophecy fanatics) interpret the Quran/Hadith as to say that Jews (Religious group) will return to the land , and there will be a war with the Muslims over it and the Muslims shall prevail.

      “Then, when the second promise came to pass, (We permitted your enemies) to make your faces sorrowful and to enter the mosque as they had entered it before, and to destroy with utter destruction all that fell in their hands.” Quran 7

      So the Quran (by some interpretation) do not condone the return of Jews to the “Land” but mentions it as a transgression and they will be punished for it.

      This is how some Prophecy Fanatic interpret the Quran , but the majority of scholars says that this verse is talking about the old times and it is already fulfilled when the Jewish temple/state were destroyed.

      I never heard of the clown cleric Tawfik that you mentioned, but i know that there is 1.8 billion Muslims and belive me there is a lot of freaks among them.

      And since you mentioned the Quran, let me remind you of your Bible.

      According to the Bible the indigenous population was the Canaanites and their land were granted to descendants of Abraham which includes Arabs.

      “Abram traveled through the land as far as the site of the great tree of Moreh at Shechem. At that time the Canaanites were in the land.”

      “The Lord appeared to Abram and said, “To your descendants I will give this land.”

      So….

      Historically , Biblicaly and Quranically this land belongs exclusivity to the Palestinians.

      And the Slavic/Khazar/Berber Jews have no legitimate claims to Palestine.

    • Mayhem,

      Your understanding of history and Quran is flawed.

      Historically:

      Modern Jews have nothing to do with ancient Jews who themselves were invaders of the Land of the Canaanites who are the ancestors of modern Palestinians and modern Arabs (The only known Semites in the world for sure).

      Quranicaly:

      There is nothing in the Quran about Jews or any other people being the Indigenous people of Palestine, actually Palestine is not mentioned in the Quran by Name nor is Jerusalem.

      The only reference to Palestine is actually a reference to The Alaqsa Mosque with regards to Muhammad Night Journey. That is it.

      You can belive that Jews in the era of David/Solomon lived in China and you will still be consistent with the Quran.

      And even that land already had an indigenous population before Jews.

      "They said: "O Moses! In this land are a people of exceeding strength: Never shall we enter it until they leave it: if (once) they leave, then shall we enter" Quran/ Yousef Ali

      So the "Land" were already inhabited by an indigenous population (the ones Abraham settled among and preached) , and because Jews were running from persecution, they were allowed to live there without expelling the indigenous population.

      Furthermore , In the Quran , Jews are a religious group and not a racial group. And while the Quran allowed the Jews to live in the holy land (whenever that is) when they were the righteous people ,were following the path of God and were persecuted, this "Inheritance" is not infinite , and now according to the Quran the Muslims are the righteous people and true followers of God and they inherit not just Palestine but beyond.

      "AND, INDEED, after having exhorted [man], 100 We laid it down in all the books of divine wisdom that My righteous servants shall inherit the earth" Quran/Asad

      Inheret " أورثنا" In Arabic Literally means it became your after it was someones else in the past.

      That is the Classic teaching of the Quran and that is why Prophet Muhammad Disciplines Omar and Abu baker Conquered Palestine and the Whole middle east

      And some Muslims ( Prophecy fanatics) interpret the Quran/Hadith as to say that Jews (Religious group) will return to the land , and there will be a war with the Muslims over it and the Muslims shall prevail.

      "Then, when the second promise came to pass, (We permitted your enemies) to make your faces sorrowful and to enter the mosque as they had entered it before, and to destroy with utter destruction all that fell in their hands." Quran 7

      So the Quran (by some interpretation) do not condone the return of Jews to the "Land" but mentions it as a transgression and they will be punished for it.

      This is how some Prophecy Fanatic interpret the Quran , but the majority of scholars says that this verse is talking about the old times and it is already fulfilled when the Jewish temple/state were destroyed.

      I never heard of the clown cleric Tawfik that you mentioned, but i know that there is 1.8 billion Muslims and belive me there is a lot of freaks among them.

      And since you mentioned the Quran, let me remind you of your Bible.

      According to the Bible the indigenous population was the Canaanites and their land were granted to descendants of Abraham which includes Arabs.

      "Abram traveled through the land as far as the site of the great tree of Moreh at Shechem. At that time the Canaanites were in the land."

      "The Lord appeared to Abram and said, "To your descendants I will give this land."

      So....

      Historically , Biblicaly and Quranically this land belongs exclusivity to the Palestinians.

      And the Slavic/Khazar/Berber Jews have no legitimate claims to Palestine.

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    • "This, when millions of Jews in the region are indigenous to the region"

      European Jews are not indigenous to the region but rather to europe.

      "Number of Jewish states able to tolerate Arab-Muslims being more than 20% "

      And those 20% were half of the population in 1947 before Israel expelled most of them.

    • "We hear the fervent catch cry of the anti-Zionists claiming somehow that Jews, who have been suffering under the brunt of an unprecedented spate of attacks under the mantle of the ‘third intifada’, have an innate hatred of Arabs and want to see them expelled from the country"

      We hear the fervent catch cry of the anti-Palestinians claiming somehow that Palestinians , who have been suffering under the brunt of an Occupation and ethnic cleansing , have an innate hatred of Jews and want to see them expelled from the country.

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    • Max

      LOL......i am one of those.

      But i wont call it ethnic cleaning since they (Israeli settlers) are nothing but illegal thugs who stole a land that doesnot belong to them.

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    • Can Americans please explain to me regarding these legislations that excludes businesses that Boycott Israel:

      Isn't these legislation against the constitution since they discriminate between Americans because of their political views !

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    • "P.s. reports circulating that the invalid in chair is really an undercover israeli shan’t and the chair flip was just theatrics."

      Yeah circulated by the same people who said that Muhanmad Abu khdeir was killed by his family in an honor killing and the Duma arson was an Arab family feud.

      what a joke.
      P.S the man in wheel chair is Majid AlFakhouri and he said he will file a complaint.

      http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4766751,00.html

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    • It doesn't work Hershel.

      This whatabouttery doesn't work and will not reduce the damage to Israel image that this article will bring for those who reads it.

      Try a different strategy.

      I will send this article to all my Black friends.........heck i will send it to everyone.

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    • "no normal country has to endure the constant vilification from Palestinians unwilling to accept Israel’s right to exist."

      Palestinians don't have to endure 7 decades of Occupation and they have the right to vilify ,reject and resist peacefully and violently Israel right to exist on their Home land as per International Law.

      By the way no country in the world have the right to exist.
      Countries dont have rights, people have rights and that includes Palestinians.

    • I support the move by the Arab MK's.

      The demands of the families is logical and legitimate and they need officials to listen to them.

      No normal county would refuses to return the dead bodies of human beings to their families for proper burial!

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    • ميخائيل my Arab brother.

      "“Semites” are by definition people who speak Semitic languages or are descended from people who spoke Semitic languages. Ashkenazim in Israel speak Hebrew"

      Just Recently. their Original mother tongue is Yiddish .

      "and even non-Hebrew speaking Ashkenazim are substantially descended from Hebrew- and Aramaic-speaking population."

      No they are not, they primarily European, Slavic and Khazar in origin and all genetic research points to that and that includes Zionists like Haber who proved that Ashkenazi Jews cluster closer to Turks and Kurds (Also Khazar in Origin) than to Semites like Arabs and Palestinians.

      "Hebrew and Aramaic are Semitic languages."

      So is Arabic which is a language that branched from the proto Canaanite languages which existed in western Levant (Modern day Palestine).

      "While Ashkenazim are in part descended from European populations as well as Middle Eastern Jews who settled in Europe "

      Recent Archaeology proved the Exile to be a myth, so did historians like Shlomo sand, Koestler and others....hell even ben gurion believed it was a myth.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01s51hb

      "there is very little evidence (linguistic, genetic or historical) to substantiate the “Khazar” theory of the origin of Ashkenazi Jews."

      There is , but you just want to keep banging your head against the facts.

      see Sand,Eran Elhaik and Martin Richardson research on that.

      "6 million+ Hebrew-speaking Jews live in Israel, and most of them and their descendants will be there for the foreseeable future."

      So do the 6 million Palestinian living in Hebron, Jerusalem , Nazareth and Gaza.

      "LOL< another idiot who is harping on the fact of light-skinned Jews while ignoring the fact that there are many light-skinned and blonde Arabs."

      There are few , but i dont know about "Many", unless you count those who die their hair...LOL

      " (If I'm not mistaken you're one of those who also believe that Jews of Mizrahi heritage like me are so-called "Arabs")."

      If you were From the Levant or Arabia then maybe, otherwise You are probably a Berber or Egyptian and they are not Semites (most of them).

      What do you think a "Semite" looks like?

      Palestinians, Syrians ,Lebanese, Iraqis (Partial) and Arabs (Arabia).
      (YOu can tell an Arab form th eLevantine by their physical features becasue they branched form Canaanites long time ago 5000 Yr

      "Are you trying to say that fair-skinned, light-haired women cannot be Semites?"

      If they were a mix then maybe.

      "Does that apply to Arabs, or only Jews?"

      Arabs are diverse groups and although you can find Blonde Palestinians and Syrian you wont not find a Saudi , Yemeni or Sudanese Blonde.

      "Would you say the same of Mira Awad — is she a non-Semite?"

      Of course, since she is a Palestinian.

      We are a mixture (Canaan, Roman, Crusades,Arabs...etc)

      but you guys on the other hands are not

      You can clearly see that all Ashkenzi are European looking and a lot of them are blonde blue eyed, but none of the Yemenite are like that .

      If there were Semitic looking ashkenzai or a blonde Yemenite Jew i might have believed that. but there is not.
      Each group are distinct and separate, unlike us Semitic Palestinians.

      By , the way it is not just hair and eye color.

    • " religion of the people murdered by Egyptians, Jordanians and others masquerading as members of a fictitious people."

      Are you talking about the European, Slavic and Khazar people masquerading as Semites and calling themselves Ashkenazim Jews, or are you talking about Egyptians and north African Berbers masquerader as Semites and calling themselves Mizrahim Jews

      The only fictitious nation in the middle east are Israelis.

      This is called Psychological projection.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

      Look at the Israeli model for god sake.........this delusional woman believes she is a Semite!

    • "And Jordanian and Iraqi"

      So....

      "Most keffiyehs happen to be made in China these days. What can you do? Globalization."

      So....

      "How am I jealous, exactly? "

      Yes you are.

      "Second of all, Jews have plenty of interesting headcoverings of their own"

      See...... you are jealous.

      " besides the keffiyeh"

      Nice try...Jews have nothing to do with the keffeiyah except maybe Arab Jews like Mikahel .

      http://samidoun.net/2014/01/palestinian-political-prisoners-mourning-nelson-mandela/

    • " is not “Palestinian.” It’s a Middle Eastern headscarf,"

      I never knew that Palestinians are from China!

      by the way it is not middle eastern, it is virtually unknown outside the Levant.

      You are just jealous of our lovely and famous scarf which became symbol of resistance world wide.

      Apart form the troll, The writer said:

      "when I saw the Palestinian and Jordanian Keffiyeh"

      The Koufieyyeh is part of the Levant (Sham) culture and the black scarf is traditionally worn by Farmers while the red one (Called Shmagh) is worn by Bedouins. but since most Palestinians were farmers and most Jordanians were Bedouins , the black became associated with the Palestinians and the red one with Jordan .

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    • Dabakr

      For normal homo-sapiens bombing any city to smithereens is wrong and it constitutes a massacre and a war crime.

      But apparently this does not apply to Zionists like you due to their inferior moral standards and Zionism built in savagery.

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    • @Mikhael

      "It’s not clear whom you are addressing, I see my name but I am not your friend nor am I an Arab. Despite your confusion, I will reply."

      Still......You are an Arab.

      " It is her right as an Israeli citizen to personally proclaim herself whatever she wishes, although her official nationality designation in the population registry is “Arab”."
      She can identify herself whoever she likes but that wont change the fact that the Palestinians in refugee camps in Gaza, the West bank and elsewhere are relatives of her and they are the same people who lived together before the ethnic cleansing of Palestine.
      A black man can identify as white but that wont change who he is and who his people are.
      “Since not all Arabs in Israel regard themselves as “Palestinian”, but nearly all (with few exceptions, such as some in the Druze community and a few in the Christian-Arab community) regard themselves as Arabs, “Israeli-Arab” is the most neutral and inclusive term for this sector. Of course.”

      Arab and Palestinian are not mutually exclusive. just like Algerian and Arab are not mutually exclusive.

      Arab Israeli Identify as both Arab and Palestinian and they always did, but sometimes based on Political waves they emphasis one over the other and currently thank god they are bouncing back to the Palestinian Identity.

      " “Israeli-Arab” is not applicable to the Mizrahi-Jewish population in Israel; neither on an objective nor a subjective basis."

      It is applicable in the since that it is the truth.

      "many prominent Palestinian Arabs have denied that such a thing existed. In his testimony before the Peel Commission, Awni Abdel Hadi, no friend of Zionism, stated (incorrectly) that “Palestine is a term the Zionists invented"

      These statements are a result of Arab nationalism which had the lead back then, but not anymore.

      "........Nevertheless, a distinct Palestinian Arab national identity has come into existence in recent decades.""

      Same goes for Egyptian , Jordanian, Lebanese and Saudis.

      As i explained to you that the Identity in the region prior to Sicos Picot was Islamic ,but that does not contradict that they had different backgrounds/dialects and cultures .

      "clearly not all, Lucy Aharish being a prominent example of one who does not"
      You do realize that she is just a news anchor and that the elected representatives of the Israeli Palestinians sees it otherwise.

      "Most of the “educated elite” among the Druze in Israel, who include among their number past commanders of Israeli infantry brigades and an acting president tend to support the Israeli state. Only a few ideological cranks like Abdullah Abu Ma’aruf oppose the State of Israel (which pays him a nice Knesset member salary) for ideological reasons — although he gave up his Russian citizenship to serve in Knesset."

      The opposite is true, the support for Israel among the Druze community comes from the Clerics, while the educated are all oppose to Zionism, and by the way Commanders of IOF infantry brigades doesnot count as Educated Elites.

      Rabah Al Halabi is a Druze Professor in the Hebrew University and he writes about this identity subject and his position is contrary to what you wish for .(he is not a crank).

      http://www.amazon.com/Israeli-Palestinian-Identities-Dialogue-Approach/dp/0813534151

      "Refuse and your people will protect you" is a recent rapidly growing group of young Druze who identify as Palestinins and refuse Military service in the IOF.(they are not cranks)

      Samih AL Qasem is the most prominent Druze poet who was a hardcore anti Zionist . (He is not a Crank).

      "All the reliable DNA evidence suggests that the ancestors of today’s Druze populations lived in the Levant for tens of thousands of years"

      The Druze population didnot even exist Tens of thousands of years ago, Druze is an offset of Islam!

      They themselves trace their origins to Turkish and Kurdish tribes, and some to Arab (Bani Maaruf clan in Arabia).

      The reliable DNA evidence exists in your mind only. Solid geneticists says otherwise.

      "The Khazar theory of the ethnogenesis of Ashkenazi Jews has also been savaged and only ignorant misfits subscribe to it."

      Ignorant misfits like professors of History and renewed Geneticists ,linguistics and archaeologist!

      “Mizrahi Jews do not identify as Arabs because they are not Arabs...”

      They are delusional.

      “Except they do (leaving aside your quaint usage of the term “race”, which is not relevant). It’s been conclusively demonstrated that Ashkenazi Jews and Mizrahi Jews (as well as Sefaradi Jews and smaller groups like the Romaniotim and Italian Jews) in large part descend from a common ancestral gene pool less than 2,000 years ago, although Ashkenazim also are descended in large part from neolithic European lineages due to their male forebears who migrated from the Middle East having married and mated with local European women in Southern Europe, Asia Minor and the Balkans during the late Roman Empire who (presumably) converted to Judaism.”

      Except they don’t.

      Although some Zionist tried to prove that with genetic studies, the end result backfired, and now the studies of Jewish genes almost came to a halt since it did not come with the results they wanted.

      Its also interesting that when they want to prove that they have roots in the middle east they compare their genes to non other than Palestinians and Arabs!

      And All the archaeological findings disproves the Jewish expulsion from Palestine since Jewish communities existed in Palestine after the so Called exile 2000 years ago .

      Here is a recent one:

      http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4740314,00.html

      “link to nature.com
      link to ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
      link to digitalcommons.wayne.edu
      link to nature.com”

      The links you provided ( but did not read ) doesnot prove anything.

      The first link disputes what you say and proves the opposite:

      “The extent to which Ashkenazi Jewry trace their ancestry to the Levant or to Europe is a long-standing question5, which remains highly controversial3, 4, 6, 12, 13, 14, 16, 17. Our results, primarily from the detailed analysis of the four major haplogroup K and N1b founders, but corroborated with the remaining Ashkenazi mtDNAs, suggest that most Ashkenazi maternal lineages trace their ancestry to prehistoric Europe.”

      The second link is from 2000! And it is by a famous Zionist geneticist (Ostrer) who refuses to give his data to be verified.

      “To illustrate his point, Elhaik swivels his chair around to face his computer and calls up a 2010 email exchange with Ostrer.
      “It was a great pleasure reading your group’s recent paper, ‘Abraham’s Children in the Genome Era,’ that illuminate[s] the history of our people,” Elhaik wrote to Ostrer. “Is it possible to see the data used for the study?”
      Ostrer replied that the data are not publicly available. “It is possible to collaborate with the team by writing a brief proposal that outlines what you plan to do,” he wrote. “Criteria for reviewing include novelty and strength of the proposal, non-overlap with current or planned activities, and non-defamatory nature toward the Jewish people.” That last requirement, Elhaik argues, reveals the bias of Ostrer and his collaborator”

      http://forward.com/news/israel/175912/jews-a-race-genetic-theory-comes-under-fierce-atta/

      Besides it does somehow prove my point , From the link:

      “the Ashkenazim were closest to South European populations (specifically the Greeks) and also to the Turks”

      Turks are Khazars.

      “The Ethiopian Jews were placed close to the non-Jewish Ethiopians”

      Do you really need a study to prove that Ostrer.....

      The third ink is from Behar a zionst crank who abused the term Levantine and made it include Anatolia (turkey), Iran and Kurdistan in order to prove a Levantine origin of Ashkenazi Jews , then claimed that turks are Semites who immigrated north!

      No wonder people look upon as a joke now.

      The forth link is also from Doron Behar and it is about levites exclusively.

      Genetic studies beside that they often contradict each other , they actually cannot determine the origin (location) of people since as Falk puts it:

      “Here again the risk of circularity of the argument is exposed: Geneticist determine the genotypic details of socio-ethnologists' classifications, whereas socio-demographers rely on geneticists findings to bolster their classifications.”

      http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/10.3389/fgene.2014.00462/full

      “They don’t need to deny it as a defense mechanism since there’s nothing wrong with being an Arab in Israeli society. “

      Are you sure

      http://www.timesofisrael.com/poll-only-20-of-jewish-israelis-see-arab-citizens-as-equals/
      “They say it because they have been told by their parents and grandparents of the atrocities suffered during riots in Allepo in 1947 or in Baghdad in 1941 or n Jerusalem in 1929 (when my great uncle was slashed across the face by an angry Arab who didn’t care whether he was so-called “Arab Jew”).”

      Stop believing Myths.

      “Of course, the majority of Israeli Jews of Mizrahi origin, just like the majority of Israeli Jews of Ashkenazi origin, do not hate Arabs or wish death to the Arabs.”

      Not according to polls and surveys.

    • "Mizrahi Jews, Sefaradi Jews and Ashkenazi Jews alike have common genetic markers with Arabic-speaking non-Jews of the region that show that all of these groups can trace their ancestry to it"

      Ashkenazi Jews share genetic markers with European (apparently) and some groups in the middle east which have roots in Khazaria like Turks ,Kurds and northern Iranians, but they have nothing n common with Semitic groups like Palestinins,Syrians or Saudis.

      Mizrahi and Sephardi Jews have the same genetic markers as the groups they lived among like Yemenis and North African.

    • @Mikhael

      My Arab friend let me explain things for you.

      Lucy Aharish doesnot represent and was not elected by the Palestinian Israelis , Hanin Zoabi was.

      "Some of them do, and the use is of the term is increasing among them, but many do not,"

      That is because they are both Arab and Palestinian, and during the height of Arab nationalism they emphasized the Arab ,but now with the collapse of all Arab national parties (Bathist or Nasirism) they are emphasizing the Palestinian Identity more .

      "the few who minimize their Arab identity tend actually to belong to super- pro-Israel factions within Israeli-Arab society, such as elements among the Druze who deny they are Arab (and of course deny they are “Palestinian” as well) and even Christian groups within Israeli-Arab society who wish to be identified as “Aramean”"

      The majority of christian (almost all) identify as Arab/Palestinian and the whole Aramean thing is not picking up real support among them and they realize it is a Zionist plot.

      Regarding Druze, you are right but the educated elites are against that, and the more they are educated the less they will fall for the Zionist hoax against their original Identity (the movement is growing).

      Note: Druze are mostly of Turkish and Kurdish origin and that is why geneticist finds similarity between them (Kurds,Turks and Druze) and the Ashkenazim Jews , which is logical since all four are originally from the Khazar empire area.

      "A designation that nearly all of Israel’s Mizrahi- and Sefaradi-Jewish population (from which I am descended) eschews vehemently."

      Of course they do, and you know why?

      .....because it is the truth.

      Mizrahi Jews have nothing in common with Ashkenazi Jews with respect to race/origin/genes.They are as Arab as it can get, and some of them are actually Authentic Arab (from Arabia),and that is why they desperately deny it (defense mechanism).

      "overwhelmingly regard themselves as part of the Jewish people, and see Ashkenazim as their close kin, not Arabs."

      They are delusional.

      "But you (presumably a non-Arab and a non-Palestinian) know better."

      I am an Arab and a Palestinian and i do know better and you are wrong.

      "But I guess you (a non-Mizrahi Jew and a non-Israeli) know better about how we define ourselves."

      We know how you define yourself and we know that you are delusional.

      It must be frustrating to look at the mirror and see the same face of those you are taught to hate .

      I said it before and i say it now:

      When a Mizrahi Jew says death to the Arabs he means the Arab inside him and not the Arab in Gaza or East Jerusalem.

      Alsalam Alykom Akhi Al Arabi.

    • People in this site and elsewhere dont fully understand what the word Arab means in the modern use.

      "The Arab League, a regional organization of countries intended to encompass the Arab world, defines an Arab as:

      An Arab is a person whose language is Arabic, who lives in an Arabic-speaking country, and who is in sympathy with the aspirations of the Arabic-speaking peoples."

      "According to Sadek Jawad Sulaimanis the former Ambassador of Oman to the United States:

      The Arabs are defined by their culture, not by race; and their culture is defined by its essential twin constituents of Arabism and Islam. To most of the Arabs, Islam is their indigenous religion; to all of the Arabs, Islam is their indigenous civilization. The Arab identity, as such, is a culturally defined identity, which means being Arab is being someone whose mother culture, or dominant culture, is Arabism. Beyond that, he or she might be of any ancestry, of any religion or philosophical persuasion, and a citizen of any country in the world. Being Arab does not contradict with being non-Muslim or non-Semitic or not being a citizen of an Arab state"

      Wikipedia

      there is no contradiction between being an Arab and a Palestinian , just like there is no contradiction between being Algerian and Arab.

      Yonah :"majority self identification of most Palestinian citizens of Israel"

      The majority of Arabs in Israel identify as Palestinians and as Arabs , listen to their elected representatives in the Kenesset.

      @ Stephen

      The identity of the inhabitants of the middle east (Arab world) was an Islamic one , and the whole Arab thing is a product of the dissolving of the Islamic caliphate and the rise of Arab nationalism like Nasrisim and bathisim and the main founders of such ideologies where actually Christians like Michel Aflaq who prefered it over Islam.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Aflaq

      it is basically a substitute of the Islamic identity (the British wanted that) and it seems that this Arab Identity is not going to last long ,it is already crumbling, and identities like Egyptian, Berber,Lebanese and Palestinian are already more popular than Arab.

      Arab identity is going to vanish within few decades.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jund_Filastin

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    • I agree with Max.

      We should remember the Massacre of Hebron, where a Religious American Israeli Jewish settler opened fire at innocent Palestinian worshipers while they were prostrating killing 30 (6 children) and injuring 125 .

      Israeli settlers in the brutally occupied Palestine celebrates this massacre and opened a shrine to honor the terrorist.

  • Sick of Zionism’s stranglehold on Jewish culture? There is an alternative.
    • " The fight on its OWN land is a different issue and has taken place also in ancient times with the then nations in this area."

      The people that your claimed ancestors slaughtered ,expelled and subjected were not just "nations in this area", they were the indigenous and rightful owners of the land of Canaan . and if you want Israel to carry out the same way it did in the old state , then be prepared to see an ending similar to the fate of the old state .

  • Video: A glimpse of Palestinians living under occupation in Hebron
  • Suddenly, comparing Jewish state to ISIS is OK
    • "While terrorist attacks galore are happening against Jews in Israel every day the Dawabshe incident is milked for all its worth in a gratuitous attempt to manufacture an equivalent to what is widely manifest in the Muslim world"

      The whole world knows that Palestinian violence is a result of the occupation.and the whole world knows that the settler violence is a product of religious lunacy funded by the Israeli government.

      "Waiting to hear the excuses for the latest killings by an Israeli-Arab in Tel Aviv – he was mentally ill, he was a lone gunman, he had nothing to do with ISIS, he was a nice fellow who wouldn’t harm a fly,"

      There are reports that he did it as revenge for the killing of his brother by the Israelis.and there are reports that he is mentally ill...untill now we dont know.

      " he was not religuously motivated (he had a copy of the Koran in his backpack but the politically correct Western media don’t mention that) etc."

      If you are going to die , it makes sense to take a copy of your religious text since you are about to meet your maker.but that doesnot mean that it is religiously motivated.

      Before i start my math exam i read a prayer or a verse from the Quran , does that mean i am motivated to do the math exam by religion!!

      You are so superficial.

  • Not the only 'proud Palestinian' in the family--Gigi Hadid's father details refugee history in Syria
    • “Thats how we became refugees to Syria and we lost our home in Safad to a Jewish family that we sheltered when they were refugees from Poland on the ship that was sailing from country to country and no one would take them… they were our guest for 2 years till they made us refugees and they kicked us out of our own home. That my history.. Strange thing. That I and my family would do it again.”

      Same thing with my family,in west Jerusalem.

      We helped them and welcomed them , then they kicked us out and stole the house until this very day.

      In Arabic we say إتقي شر من أحسنت إليه

  • Novel featuring Palestinian-Jewish romance threatens 'Jewish identity,' Israeli gov't rules
  • Top ten ways Muslim-Americans can do more
    • A negligible land that houses some of Islam/Christianity most important religious and historic sites.

      A negligible land that Muslims fought 6 crusades to death to keep.

      A negligible land on a strategic position that separates the western part of the Muslim / Arab world with the eastern one

      A negligible land that had 1.3 million indigenous inhabitants , who most were ethniclly cleansed to make way prosecuted Europeans.

  • Israeli ambassador flings Nazi label at Israeli leaders, after latest authoritarian step
    • "That is simply a biased narrative that you’re perpetuating and it’s a two-pronged one: "

      Nakba denying will get you suspended from this website.

      Moderators please.

      " Also, if the combined Arab armies never invaded, if Syria never funded the Arab Liberation Army (link to en.wikipedia.org) then the Nakba would have never happened."

      Half of the Palestinins were already ethnically cleansed before the Arabs Invaded.

      The ethnic cleansing started 29 November 1947,
      The Arabs attacked 15 May 1948 to stop the cleansing.

      This alone will demolish the nonsense you spew here.

      "The civil war would have resolved itself and no one would have to leave the area."

      See my response above

      "They left for a variety of reasons"

      Regardless of the reason why they left , they still have the right to return and Israel shouldnot have prevented them from that.

      There is no difference whether they left because the Arabs wanted them to go out of the way or because the Israelis expelled them or because they felt it will make them safe. either way they are refugees of war and Israel committed a crime by not allowing them to return.

      "which can be analyzed through books by Benny Morris (Pappe is too anti-Zionist, Karsh is too Zionist).

      Morris is too Zionist too.
      By the way Morris does not say that 10% only left by expulsion.

      He says that only 5% left by Arab armies orders .
      He says that only 6 villages out of 440 were evacuated by Arab orders.

      You never read morris. you are just an internet troll.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_1948_Palestinian_exodus

      "A report from the military intelligence SHAI of the Haganah entitled "The emigration of Palestinian Arabs in the period 1/12/1947-1/6/1948," dated 30 June 1948, affirms that:

      At least 55% of the total of the exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations. To this figure, the report's compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which "directly (caused) some 15%… of the emigration." A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to "fears" and "a crisis of confidence" affecting the Palestinian population. As for Arab calls for flight, these were reckoned to be significant in only 5% of cases"

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_1948_Palestinian_exodus

      "It’s true that about 10% of the Palestinians in the Nakba were definitely expelled by Jews during the war, for tactical reasons to win the war, (see link to en.wikipedia.org)"

      The link you provided doesnot support your claim. give evidence or spare us.

      According to Morris and others 95% were expelled or fled from the Israeli attacks.

      " but for example Haifa was almost 90% evacuated before any Jewish military groups even arrived. (link to jewishvirtuallibrary.org) Other reasons for leaving included"

      Nonsense, see below:

      "According to Morris, "The Haganah mortar attacks of 21–22 April [on Haifa] were primarily designed to break Arab morale in order to bring about a swift collapse of resistance and speedy surrender. […] But clearly the offensive, and especially the mortaring, precipitated the exodus. The three-inch mortars "opened up on the market square [where there was] a great crowd […] a great panic took hold. The multitude burst into the port, pushed aside the policemen, charged the boats and began to flee the town", as the official Haganah history later put it."[6]:191, 200 According to Pappé,[13]:96 this mortar barrage was deliberately aimed at civilians to precipitate their flight from Haifa.

      The Haganah broadcast a warning to Arabs in Haifa on 21 April: "that unless they sent away 'infiltrated dissidents' they would be advised to evacuate all women and children, because they would be strongly attacked from now on."

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_1948_Palestinian_exodus

      "needing to get out of the way of the hostilities, the Arab armies also did not want civilians in the way"

      Does not change anything (even though it is a lie) Refugees still have the right to return.

      “There can be no exaggerating the importance of these early Arab-initiated evacuations in the demoralization, and eventual exodus, of the remaining rural and urban opulation "

      He was talking about a certain phase.
      He was very clear that only 6 villages out of 440 were evacuated by Arab orders
      He was very clear that only 5 % left because of that .

      "Look up my facts. I just don’t have enough space to tell you everything but you can also do your own research."

      I did , and i found that you were disingenuous.
      you opened wikipedia and picked the paragraphs that you liked and left the ones you disliked, hoping that no one will check what you post , and that is why you did not link to the source of your quotes which is this wikipedia page:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_1948_Palestinian_exodus

      I know your type, and belive me people here are not your ordinary ignorant that you brainwash with your nonsense.we dont take anything any Zionist say without checking.

      From the Above link that you quoted from but refused to link, and from the very same guy that you claim to be honest (Morriss)

      There were 5 waves of refugees

      Wave No of Refugees Casue of depopulation
      First wave 100,000 sense of vulnerability, attacks and fear of impendingattack
      Second wave 250,000–300,00 attacks and fear of impending attack
      Third wave 100,000 refugee attacks and expulsions
      Fourth wave 200,000–230,000 attacks and expulsions
      Border clearings 30,000-40,000

      Total number of villages depopuated 440
      abandoned by Arab orders 6

      By the way i reject Morris because he is a self proclaimed Zionist
      and i also reject Wikipedia in controversial subjects
      but i used them to counter your argument because it is you r source

      Nakba denying will get you suspended from this website.
      http://mondoweiss.net/policy

      Moderators please.

    • “Islamization of East Jerusalem under Jordanian occupation is what occurred during the Jordanian occupation of the West Bank between 1948–1967, when Jordan sought to alter the demographics and landscape of the city to enhance its Muslim character. At this time, all Jewish residents were expelled, and restrictions were imposed on the Christian population that led many to leave the city.”

      The city of Jerusalem was 99% Arab in ottoman era , all Jewish immigration to it after 1882 was illegal.

    • Thank you Annie for all that you do here in Mondoweiss.

      I feel humbled and grateful when i see people who doesnot share any ethnic,religious, language..etc tie with the Palestinians ,but yet they dedicate themselves to help and support their plight .

    • Greg,

      "after the Romans, Jews were still a majority there until it was conquered by Christians and Muslims."

      No they weren't, it was majority Christian.

      " When Muslims were in power, Al Aqsa was built in 705 on the site where the Jewish Temple had been."

      No it was not, the area was deserted and nothing was there when the Muslims built Alaqsa compound in 637.

      The Alaqsa mount is not the temple mount and it never was.

      The temple mount described by Josephus and mentioned in the Mishnah was less than third of the current mount.

      "Then Crusaders pillaged their way and took over the area. Selah ad Din Ibn Ayyub won it back from the Crusaders, and Jews lived under Muslim rule"

      You ignored 463 year before the crusades came, in which most of the christian and Jewish population of Palestine converted to Islam as documented by historians.

      "and Jews lived under Muslim rule, in relative peace and security as individuals!"

      Wait a minute, i thought that Jews were expelled in 70 AC to Europe and that the Khazar theory is myth!

      So the expulsion and the 2000 year wait for the return was a lie after all.

      "And yet, in the following centuries, Muslims slowly settled more and more of the land, and Jews lived as dhmmi that had to pay Jawali, a form of Jizya tax in Jerusalem."

      Muslims didnot settle anywhere significantly, the population converted to Islam.Period.

      "So was this “settlements and ethnic cleansing” by the people in power? Whatever you want to call it, Jews never attacked civilians to get their own state. They were allowed to live their lives and serve God in peace."

      The first Jewish state were founded on piles of dead Canaanite children and civilians (Ancestors of modern Palestinians) and the Modern Jewish state were founded after decades of terrorism in the days of the British Mandate of Palestine and it continues until this day by the hands of the IDF and the settlers.

      " Jordanian forces destroyed Jewish communities and synagogues, turning them into chicken coops or razing them."

      Elaborate and give numbers and Evidence or spare us the nonsense.

      The west bank according to the UN partition plan was 99% Arab and less than 1% Jewish.

      "In Hebron, where today the IDF has a shameful apartheid situation, there was a big Jewish community, but they were massacred in 1929 before Israel ever was declared (as usual because of Al Aqsa rumors)."

      By big you mean 1% right.

      Palestine was 99% Muslim/Christian in the ottoman era before European settlers started coming in 1882, and that is the ONLY fact in the whole conflict , all the rest is just mythologies and theories about what might have been, and whose ancestors and whose descendants.

      We have the facts, you have the theory and that is why Palestinian (exclusively) have the moral high ground an the historical right.

    • "As a liberal, I would like to see Palestinian self-determination! But I would like to see leadership by Palestinians in the area of human rights in the areas they govern."

      No such thing were requested from blacks in South Africa, Algerians...etc .

      The right of self determination is an international law/ god given right that all nations have and there are no precondition for it. how they treat their gays is irrelevant.

      You are not a real liberal , you are a tribalist Jew who have a sense of belonging to a state / nation that acts contrary to his convictions, so he likes to convince himself that it is the Palestinians fault , so he can live with it.....Voila!

      A real liberal dont do that you know.

      I am a Palestinian refugee , i am a against Arab countries giving Palestinians their Citizenship, and i support the right of return, and i don't have to behave or act in a certain way to be granted that right.

      I dont need your blessing or approval to exercise my rights.

  • A Christmas message in dark times
    • Trump is better for Palestine than Hillary.

      People needs to understand that he only says what he says about Mexicans and Muslims to get votes ,and he doesn't actually belive in what he says.

      The questions is : What will be the actually polices that he will implement?

  • 'A real Israeli doesn't abandon his duty'
    • @Max

      Adhering to Geneva Convention.

    • Ivri

      1- Hamas is entitled to use violence against Israel occupation until the liberation of all occupied territories. Palestine is not only Gaza.

      2-Hamas is entitled to use violence against Israel forces until the implementation of the Right of return for all Palestinian refugees including the ones in Gaza (80% of Gaza)

      3-Hamas is entitled to use violence to end the Israel blockade and stop any trespassing over the Gaza strip (Air,land and sea).

      4- Egypt did put Hamas on the terrorist list but only for a little while then they reversed it (putting them on the list was a political move against the MB).

      5-You used a tactic called moving the goal post.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts

    • How many missiles fall on Israel from Jordan and Egypt which signed a peace agreement with the Zionist state.

  • Israeli settlers at a wedding party cheer burning of Palestinian baby

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