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I wonder if that’s because …
it’s probably because he probably doesn’t want a bunch of misguided zionist fanatics who demonize those who disagree with them, calling him up and dictating to him, if they have not already. he’s towing the line for sure so he won’t loose his job. (you can read about these types here: link to mondoweiss.net )
How can a reasonably intelligent person be so blind to his irrational hatred of the “other”? These Zionists are psychopaths and very dangerous
RE: “Writing on official Israeli-government letterhead, [Jacob] Dayan [Israel’s consul-general in L.A.] praised Milstein as a ‘virtuous’ individual . . . adding that Milstein ‘has personally assured me that in the future he will follow the precise letter of the law‘.”
REGARDING ISRAELI’S FOLLOWING “THE PRECISE LETTER OF THE LAW”: Nine current and former members of Sheldon Adelson’s Executive Protection Team, are suing Las Vegas Sands Corp. (including Sands Israeli-born vice president for executive protection, Zohar Lahav) and its lead Strip resort, The Venetian, to collect hundreds of thousands of dollars in overtime they claim they are owed. The plaintiffs have raised serious questions regarding the violation of federal and state laws which the defendants in general — and Lahav in particular — viewed with disdain and contempt. For instance, when Lahav was asked why the security people were not paid overtime as required by law, he angrily replied to the effect: “I don’t care what the law says! You work for me. I don’t pay overtime.”*
* SEE: “Security officers, driver for LV Sands CEO file lawsuits alleging violations of overtime law”, By Steve Green, VegasInc.com, June 11, 2011
[EXCERPT] . . . [Israeli-born] Zohar Lahav, vice president for executive protection for the company, was also named as a defendant.
The suit says Ness, a former Secret Service officer assigned to the White House who received overtime pay in that job, was well acquainted with the obligation of employers to pay overtime to qualified and eligible employees.
The suit says that when Ness confronted Lahav about this, Lahav angrily replied to the effect: “I don’t care what the law says! You work for me. I don’t pay overtime.”
Ness was eventually singled out, discriminated against and ultimately fired for his request for overtime, which the lawsuit alleged was unlawful retaliation under the Fair Labor Standards Act.
He was also fired for raising “concerns about the violation of other laws,” including Lahav’s insistence that Ness and others carry and transport firearms in violation of state law, that they transport a large bag of pharmaceutical drugs in foreign nations and that they operate an unregistered X-ray screening machine without appropriate health, safety and security safeguards, the suit alleges.
“Although Lahav stated that Ness was being fired for countermanding a policy directive, that was simply a pretext,” the suit charges.
“Ness was terminated because he raised serious questions regarding the violation of federal and state laws which the defendants in general — and Lahav in particular — viewed with disdain and contempt and he refused to engage in the requested illegal conduct,” the suit charges. . .
ENTIRE ARTICLE – link to vegasinc.com
israel as a state has accepted arab israeli,s.palestine as a state must accept palestinian jews
the acceptance of israeli arabs and palestinian jews as equal citizens is the true path to reconcilation
do you think israel would accept population centers of palestinians inhabiting all the prime locations and hilltops over looking jewish population centers throughout israel? how does that amount to “equal”.
thank you Jahan-Zaib H. Gilani
Shorter JeffB: ‘Palestinian lives and land is the price for Jewish votes and money in US elections’
You just keep pushing that line, JeffyB. I don’t see how it can lose.
I love The Band.
Great piece! Nothing is more hilariously self-refuting than proud assertions of the superiority of western, secular “culture” over Islam.
“Is there an Egyptian historian who wrote about the Exodus?”
Yes, a very brave Egyptian historian who followed the story from initial enslavement to the very front lines of Egyptian soldiers in chariots as they chased the fleeing Israelites to the Red Sea. Saw the entire thing, open-mouthed with amazement. Gawking like an Egyptian, frankly.
Well, you know the rest.
Papyrus is pretty tough, but it’s not waterproof.
what are you talking about? when did this rejection take place.
“the establishment” because that’s the only actor he recognizes as being qualified to be of consideration”
And then, to top it off, he always takes the “establishment’s” word about itself No wonder it seems so powerful to him. He seems terrified of it, much, much more so than any of the Mondo writers who actually may go up against it.
“But was he born of a Jewish mother?”
How would it be possible to know? I have heard that the pain of childbirth can cause women to renounce their faith. You never know. And there were no DNA tests back then, and you know what the song says….strumming on the old banjo, as it were.
It must be April Fools already.
I mean, this can’t be true. I am constantly hearing about how there is plenty of room in the Jewish tent for discussion and opposing views.
I guess differing views are fine provided you don’t express them or even acknowledge them in any way.
And I’m still trying to figure out why it’s always a tent.
“Spinoza is listed as a Jewish philosopher, as well as K. Popper in spite of the fact that he did not professed any religion, his parents were Lutheran and he was baptized.”
Such a fuss you’re making, already! All right then, have it your way, and Spinoza will be listed as one of the great half-Jewish philosophers! Isn’t that enough for him?
If I was Spinoza, and I had a dog, (and I would, if it was at all possible,) I would so name it Sitand. Sitand Spinoza.
Imagine what Israel’s credit rating would be without the (heavily indebted, but yet maker of oil dollars) US underwriting its debt.
“What’s wrong with “Abrahamist strain”?”
The “Abrahamist strain”, for those who don’t know, is a form of fatty tendonitis. Many people report relief from a series of Schmaltz baths, and I-growtherapy.
And if that don’t cure your Abrahamist strain, Jack, you’re dead!
Most notably, the geru, Allan Greenspan.
“Mooser, think of the times back then, and now apply your logic to the Founding Fathers of America. What do you get?”
“A Funny Thing happened On The Way To The Forum” in Colonial garb?
“Even slaves had ways open to freedom and social, cultural and economic improvement. “
Yup, must have been those outside agitators caused the Empire to fall. Came in and gave the slaves ideas above their station. Maybe the Roman Empire was based on ‘democratic slavery’! That must be it.
“i am well aware of that mooser but i was responding to seans claim,”
I know. I was trying to buttress your argument, not that you need any props.
@ Jackdaw “Cuba and Israel are hardly on par.”
True. Cuba isn’t occupying anyone, isn’t in breach of International Law, the UN Charter, Geneva Conventions and hundreds of UNSC resolutions
“Cuba has been our enemy since the Cold War, Israel our friend”
Put that way puts you in the US eh gringo
RE: “Ari Roth is fired by DC Jewish center — after staging Nakba play . . . Roth said his commenting to the media after the article appeared was the reason given to support the charge of insubordination.”
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You are such a mensch, Mooser. Thank you. You always make me smile. You give joy and are a gift.
The very fact that the message of Hanukkah, a popular event among people of Jewish faith, is traditionally regarded as nationalist makes it more, rather than less, impressive that some people of Jewish faith have chosen the occasion of Hanukkah to protest against injustice inflicted on Palestinians.
“I think the Israeli people are best equipped to communicate the truth about Israel, because they are not naive like many in the American-Jewish community,”
Translation: Israeli Jews don’t let empathy or humanity cloud their feelings towards the Arabs.
Glad to see that another hophmi unbased distraction is published, while my pointing to a thorough analysis of BDS & 2SS by Joseph Massad was rejected. That’s the way to spend energy.
take the larger liberal Jewish vote for granted says the last quote. But of course, that “vote” (whatever part of the 2% Jewish votes in total) is neglectable, even in swing states.
The correct explanation is in the same quote: wealthy and influential […] Jews.
RE: “She [Zawatsky] cancelled my DCJCC book event over my refusal to say that Palestinian use of BDS—nonviolent resistance—isn’t legitimate.” ~ Harris-Gershon
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ON SECOND THOUGHT: Perhaps it is more akin to having been accused of heresy during the Spanish Inquisition (i.e. The Tribunal of the Holy Office of the Inquisition).
FROM WIKIPEDIA [Auto-da-fé]: An Inquisition usually began with the public proclamation of a grace period of 40 days. Anyone who was guilty or knew of someone who was guilty was urged to confess. Europe was using an old Germanic system that presumed guilt. If the accused were charged they were presumed guilty.
• Monty Python – The Spanish Inquisition [VIDEO, 08:53] – link to youtube.com
In pretost of how long it take to get the eidt botton, I refsue to user it!
“I know I’m protected while I sleep”
I know that God protects drunkards, idiots, and the mad. So I feel like I’m sleeping in triple-steel-walls vault every night!
“Marnie, those men and dogs keep Israeli’s alive.”
Man, I don’t even want to think about the implcations of that sentence.
What is it the “men and dogs” do to keep Israel “alive”?
Hmmm, maybe I’d rather not know.
David Ben Gurion, “It is not important what the Goyim say, the important thing is what the Jews do!” Boy has that changed!
This looks like the establishment DC Jewish community’s biggest self-inflicted wound yet. An earlier round of attempted muzzling took place in 2007 when donor pressure was exerted to force the Contemporary American Theater Festival to cancel its production of My Name is Rachel Corrie. Despite a big withdrawal of donations, CATF refused to cave and staged the play. CATF is now celebrating its 25th anniversary. It looks like Theater J won’t have that opportunity — thanks to the JCC muzzle. Wishing Ari Roth great success in his new venture.
In tepid defense of the Theater J people one must consider that they probably grew up hearing the Leon Uris version of history: the nobility and heroism of the brave Zionist fighters trying to save the remnant of the Jewish people after the whole world turned its back on them. Trying to carve out an itsy bitsy teeny weeny country on a desolate, depopulated strip of land…was that asking so much?
I offer my own experiences as an example. I can recall being about 12 and hearing someone on the television saying the God had given that land to the Jews. I remember thinking “well, if God gave it to them then I guess it’s theirs.” I did not consider what that would mean to the natives because for me the “natives” did not exist. I never head about them, except when they were hijacking aircraft or shooting up places. And they did this, so I was told, because they were Arabs and Arabs did not like Jews. The nice Jews offered them a chance to build a new nation with them and they refused. It was that simple. It wasn’t until I got to college and I decided to educate myself on the issue that I learned about the Nakba and house demolitions and torture and collective punishment. Why hadn’t I heard about any of this before?
I was able to unlearn the errors I was exposed to and maybe that was easier for me because technically speaking I did not have a “dog in the fight.” I imagine it would be more difficult for someone with a greater emotional connection, but that does not mean it should not be done.
Zionist leadership is always more upset with discussions of past crimes then the crimes themselves.
Perhaps the establishment should make them wear yellow stars.
“I’ve read Marx, Engels, Lenin, Trotsky, Mao, Marcuse, Fidel and Che. Also Socialist-Zionists such as Borochov and Syrkin.”
Bah! Are you up on your Terry Southern?
“By early 2011 he had backtracked completely … etc … He did it because he believed he had to, politically.”
Or … he did it because someone quietly reminded him he had a family, mentioned Rabin and asked him if he thought many white supremacists and RW christained nutcases in the US would love to go down in history as having assassinated the first black US president with promise of first class lawyers and a few thousand bucks to get ‘em outta debt
The Israeli narrative is quite emphatic Palestine is not and was never a state. It always puzzled me because legally it’s an irrelevant nonsense. Israel was declared and recognized and by default what lay outside of Israel simply wasn’t Israeli.
Then I looked closely at the following
A) The Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel : “The state of Israel ….will be based on freedom, justice and peace as envisaged by the prophets of Israel“
B) Deuteronomy 20:10 through to 20:15, esp :15 “This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby.”
C) Israel’s unsuccessful 31 August 1949 legal claim to territories acquired by war 1947-1949 link to unispal.un.org
4 (a)(i) No territory forming part of Egypt, the Lebanon, the Hashemite Jordan Kingdom or Syria is added to Israel by this adjustment.
(ii) No territory ever awarded to Egypt, the Lebanon, the Hashemite Jordan Kingdom or Syria by any international instrument or held by them under any agreement is added to Israel by this adjustment.
(iii) No territory in which Egypt, the Lebanon, the Hashemite Jordan Kingdom or Syria exercises authority or jurisdiction under the armistice agreements concluded pursuant to the Security Council’s resolution of November 16, 1948 and endorsed by the Security Council’s resolution of August 11, 1949 is added to Israel by this adjustment.
4 (c) The Delegation of Israel holds, therefore, that only the territorial adjustment proposed above falls equally in its effects on the rights and position of each negotiating party, makes no encroachment upon existing sovereignties
The claim was turned down link to domino.un.org citing the Armistice Agreements
From there on Israel ignored everything until the present and it will get even more desperate, because if the Palestinians attain independent statehood the game is over
.” it’s the herding of the cats”
Well, it’s about time somebody set out a bowl of milk and some Friskies. And once there is a functioning alternative to the “Jewish establishment” all bets are off.
Don’t forget the big 1888 Orthodox-Reform Unity banquet! The Jewish religion has split before, but of course, that was over something important.
And the Harvard president has reversed the boycott, while opening an investigation into the process that led to it. I wonder if that’s because he objects to 500 Palestinian Arabs being deprived of good-paying jobs in a factory east of the Green Line? Or maybe because the idea that boycotting a small beverage company because it’s owned by Israelis will have about as much effect on Israel’s economy as a mosquito bite. Or maybe it’s because he doesn’t want Harvard’s policies to be dictated by misguided fanatics who demonize those who disagree with them as “Zionazis”, “Hasbarats,” and “Israehellis,” while refusing to participate in dialogue under the guise of “anti-normalization”? Better luck next time, BDS.
It seems to me that if the intermarriage rate can be estimated, the walk-away rate could be at least intelligently estimated. Sort of a ‘how many would there be with few walk-aways given natural increase’, etc. against well, how many there are.
But then again, you never know! I mean, Yonah told me yesterday that the 6 million-ish people in Israel are all the descendants of the 400,000 Jews in Palestine in 1939!
Why has Cuba been your enemy? What has it done to you? Is it because Castro refuses to dance to the Yankee tune? And israel, good obedient lap dog, always supporting US’ veto at the UN. Grow some backbone.
The rapprochement certainly is long overdue; however, it is up to Congress to lift the blockade and with so many rabid anti Castro politicians – supported and egged on by the Miami Mafia, lifting it will come with a lot of pain. Castro should have said: lift the blockade and we talk.
“Is it possible to “drift away from Israel” without “losing Jewish identity”?”
As long as I have the strength to garble a quote, mal a prop, break a syntax, and bake fresh puns once in a while, I will never lose my Jewish identity!
“Chosenness does not equal superiority; that is a myth.”
Go tell Bennet and your other buddies that. We already know it, Hophmi.
And that the concept of “chosen” is being pushed and promulgated as superiority among right-wing Jews? Is that a myth? That Jewish superiority undergirds everything about Israel? Is that a myth?
“Roth said his commenting to the media after the article appeared was the reason given to support the charge of insubordination”.
Hmmm, what to do with these insubordinate self hating Jews and supporters of terrorism.
Ban them from Synagogues for life.Revoke their Israeli Passports and deny them entry to Israel.Make them wear their Kippas inside out so Jews willing to support Apartheid will know who their enemies are.Boycott their work.Revoke any and all membership in Jewish Orgs.
BDS==(Berate, Denegrate and Separate).
“Most Jews are ok with intermarriage”
In Israel, does it matter what “most Jews are ok with”? I don’t think it does, does it? Doesn’t matter how “liberal” the Jew is, what matters is if the State tries to control marriage along ethno-religious lines, as they do in Israel, with the co-operation of religion. A shameful and anti-Semitic situation.
“Where have I ever condoned mass murder? Your comment is a blood libel. ”
Mass murder of religious fundamentalist terrorists. those school bombings. and the hospitals . Or did the people just die by accident >? Was it all a terrible mistake ?
“Blood libel” is rich coming from a Zionist. How many Gazans does the god YESHA need in sacrifice to make Israel prosperous ?
Oh gee, sorry, “OyVey00″, it didn’t occur to me that you might live in Israel, where Jews are oppressed by anti-Semitic laws and religious repression. I didn’t mean to make fun of an awful situation like that.
Now allowing Jews to marry whom they please? Somebody oughta do something about it!
I agree. They were both excellent.
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“and allow Jews to marry gentiles.”
It’s horrible, isn’t it? All those Jewish-Gentile couples, seeking desperately for somebody to marry them, and meeting everywhere the same response: ‘uh,uh, not happening, and remember, no huggee, no kissee, til you get a wedding ring! Don’t hand me no lines and keep your hands to yourself!’
“Mooser. there must be a lot of Jews who have jumped ship”
Of course, ‘jumping ship’ is much easier for those who are half-Jewish, they only sink up to their knees.
“Where have I ever condoned mass murder? Your comment is a blood libel.”
A “blood libel”? Oy Gevalt!! Well, “Jons”, since you can’t get bud out of a turnip, I’ll top it: You smoke lousy weed!
I am going to hold my breath and wait for coverage of this in the MSM or a public debate that includes non-jews. The color blue suits me.
tuyz, mysteriously for some reason sometimes some of the links are very hard to see. i went up and checked and i couldn’t see the link either but i knew i had linked to it yesterday! so i went to add it and when i saw the embed on the draftpage i bolded the front of it so it would show up. it is embedded into the second sentence “a big piece in the New York Times this Sunday,”. i just bolded “a big piece”. but thatnk you for linking and pointing that out.
Thanks, annie. I admit i was spooked a bit. Thanks for the great link, too. I feel much better now.
With friends like Israel, who needs enemies.
But you are right that Israel and Cuba are not on par – at least we can look forward to legal Cuban cigars without a $3bn/year price-tag for our “friendship”.
And, who is “we”, kemo sabe?
That’s a very insightful and plausible analysis of current events and projections for the future!
If events come to pass as you predict, and there is certainly reason to think that they might do just that, it would follow that now is the time of extreme danger for all the key players.
I would expect a surge in false-flag “terrorism” outbreaks (ala 9/11) as well as “accidents” and “suicides” involving key players in this game (on both sides). It would not be a good time to take rides in small planes or have bouts of sudden depression! Cornered animals tend to behave irrationally.
We “little people” are not privy to the machinations, and the veils-behind-veils, and what takes place on the other side of closed doors in the WH and embassies around the world. It always amazes me that more doesn’t leak out, humans being what they are. There is clearly an advanced application of game-theory in progress, and we can only hope the good guys win (although it is very hard to discern any white-knights thus far).
i don’t think there is big data on this cigargod unless it is the big data we are supposed to infer from their title. as cecilie surasky pointed out in her great article
The Jewish community here in the Bay Area is stunningly rich and diverse. We disagree about politics, we disagree about God, and we disagree most passionately of all about Israel.
You could say our difference and diversity is our very essence. Which is why we don’t and will never have one spokesperson for the Jews of the Bay Area.
Suffice it to say, our members, and we have thousands of people on our mailing list just in the Bay Area, were shocked to see a statement from the Jewish Community Relations Council, and the local offices of the Anti-Defamation League and the American Jewish Committee, announcing that the “Bay Area Jewish Community” condemned these ads because they used the phrase Israeli apartheid.
None of these organizations have the right to claim to represent the Jews of the Bay Area. In fact, the Jewish Community Relations Council will not publicly release its list of members, we can only assume, because the number of groups they can claim to represent is so small. We know that none of the most vibrant and fastest growing progressive Jewish groups in the Bay Area are part of the JCRC. Neither are many synagogues we know.
– See more at: link to mondoweiss.net
Good point, Mooser. there must be a lot of Jews who have jumped ship in the last 20 years because they feel the thugs do not speak for them.
The people of Gaza are not religious fundamentalist terrorists. They are just people who want to live in dignity.
Big deal if you have read Marcuse. The proof is in what you do.
And supporting the IDF in Gaza is right wing. Obviously you can be left wing in Israel if you read books but in the big world you’re just another weak soul who can’t stand up to state sponsored nihilism.
If the US does use the veto, I understand Abbas has stated his next step will be the ICC. If he is driven to that he will appear to the world to have bent over backwards to accommodate US and other sensibilities and Netanyahu could well find himself bent over forwards.
As the most pessimist of all, I have no faith whatsoever in the UN. They are a bunch of puppets that do two things 1: clear the way for the world powers to do whatever they want 2: issue a set of useless resolutions only to say we did something.
For those who continuously talk about Hamas charter and peace-loving Israel, this is a very clear statement: no Palestine can exist. Peace is only meaningful in the case of a nonexistent Palestine.
Piqued my interest:
“Conference of presidents of major american jewish organizations”
Who and how many, etc?
Always concerned about inordinate influence.
Would love to see the big data on this.
>> jon seee: As I’ve said repeatedly, two states is the only game in town, the only solution that is both morally sound and politically possible.
And as I’ve said before: Garbage. A one-state solution is also both morally sound and politically possible. And if it is less of the latter, it is without a doubt more of the former.
>> hophmeee: Chosenness does not equal superiority …
Someone might want to inform Zio-supremacists of this. They seem to have missed the memo.
You’ll believe anything anywhere as long as it fits your agenda. Do you really think Hillary Clinton became Secretary of State just because Malcolm Hoenlein have her a call. Are you really that naive?
Hey Taxi –
I learn so much from you all here I can’t thank you enough, except to add to the pot before December 31.
I was thinking it would be soon too – they’ve felt the oppression of the IDF in the hottest of summer and again in the cold, wet winter. The cruelty knows no bounds. If the EU is tired of footing the bill to rebuild Gaza, fine, put the pressure on the state of Israel and BDS them till their heads explode. That was interesting news. Thanks for helping to clear this up.
The US veto is automatic and non negotiable. The US veto does not take into account US positions on anything or US foreign policy. Its is solely concerned with Israel’s wants and needs. And by ‘Israel’, I mean Likud.
Taxi you make excellent points. A really good comment. I agree with what you say.
Chances are the Beebs will show just how tough he is before the elections, and polls show the majority of Israelis love a good fireworks show over Gaza. The move to stop listing Hamas as terrorists may not give the legitimacy for future massacres in Gaza.
Surprising to see them speak out for another nation – we keep seeing them kiss up to Israel so much!
I see two dogs, two soldiers, and a very small man in the middle.
Haaaaaaaaaaa! Gotta know it’s true!
Good one, Dickerson!
As far as superiority is concerned: Believing you or your people are a special snowflake among mankind is just asking for trouble. Israel’s current dilemma stems mostly from the collective inability of Jews to hold themselves to the same standards they hold up for gentiles.
i think the decisions have already been made but the settlements are going to be a problem.
that is where the real problem lies and it could end badly…….all this recoginition stuff is merely window dressing…….a psychological move to convince settlers to evacuate
a palestinian state that attempts to expel jewish settlers from the west bank will lead to more bloodshed… israel as a state has accepted arab israeli,s.palestine as a state must accept palestinian jews
the acceptance of israeli arabs and palestinian jews as equal citizens is the true path to reconcilation
the return of jews to arab countries if they so choose must begin in the future palestinian state.
one of the major reasons south africa had a relatively successful transition is the acceptance of the black majority to the white minority.it is not perfect but in the long run it is the only solution.
jon s, this is not a response to your own quote. Which proves my point.
exactly mooser. it’s the herding of the cats. so many wild ones unanticipated coming out of the closets and alleyways, nooks and crannies and mountain roads.
I consider one of the reasons behind the European Court striking Hamas off its terrorist list as a wily maneuver to block any claimed ‘legitimacy’ for israel to strike at “terrorist” Hamas in Gaza in the near future. I’ll go further than that by saying that gathered intelligence by the EU and USA indicated that israel was readying to strike at Gaza again by no later than February 2015 – what with israeli elections announced for April and all that – and with the fact the israeli voters are fond of electing leaders who spill Arab blood the most. Sadistic Israel has plans to strike at Gaza during the height of winter, just so that Palestinians can feel the wrath of both israel and nature.
The EU, always bearing the financial brunt of israeli assaults on Gaza, is no longer prepared to keep spending billions on fixing up and rebuilding over years what israel keeps illegally destroying in mere days. So it serves the EU in a financial way, not just in a human rights way, to stop israel from willy-nilly striking at Gaza and claiming the presence of “terrorist” Hamas as an excuse.
Jewish money, Jewish power… Give me a break.
Not even the Israel lobby is all Jewish, and American politics as a whole is infested with lobby groups, Jewish or not.
brilliant taxi, i couldn’t agree more
Please. Pure ‘whatifery’.
The diaspora Jews were the sole boycotters of Nazi Germany in the early thirties. The rest of the world traded with the Nazis early on and did so right up until 1939. The Soviets traded with the Nazis for some time after that.
How a cite or two some time?
And keep blaming the victims.
Cuba and Israel are hardly on par.
Cuba has been our enemy since the Cold War, Israel our friend.
Let’s be clear: Cuba and the US have agreed to establish diplomatic relations. However, the US economic blockade of Cuba continues, at least for the time being. Maybe the blockade will be dropped in the future, but the US has not agreed to that.
Notice something: many Establishment figures (University presidents, for example) have been busily denouncing the boycott of Israel, supposedly a matter of moral principle. How many of these people have disagreed in public with the US blockade of Cuba? None to my knowledge.
I see the need for European recognition of Palestine as a way to change the dynamic. Israel has been able to disposes and oppress Palestinians because it is fully supported by the U.S. and the Europeans. As long as that dynamic remains, there will be no change.
The Europeans are now experience a decrease in their support for Israel. That means a changed dynamic. Lets hope that the European change we are seeing happen before our eyes, will trigger a reevaluation within the United States of our support for Israel.
Our most important goal should be to prevent a veto in the YNSC of the Jordanian/Palestinian resolution.
The world, including the architects of American Empire, are sick of the ball-and-chain that is israel. This week, for the first time, the world bombarded israel with several successful diplomatic strikes – even shockingly allowing the European Court to remove Hamas from its terrorist list. I don’t define the timing of all these strikes this week as coincidental in the slightest. With Hamas’ removal from the EU’s terrorist list, America and Europe have clearly signaled to israel that they have reached their limit with israel’s ongoing international-scaled crimes and they’re now willing to play harball. Yes, admittedly, they softened one blow by allowing the European Parliament, by a close vote, to reject the recognition of a Palestinian state, but to nevertheless recognize it “in principle” – they now have that “in principle” recognition IN WRITING – very easy now for the EP to bureaucratically recognize Palestine at the next Palestine session. The western powers gave israel here a final and fair warning. The world is saying: without a 2SS, there will be blatant Apartheid: an intolerable state that the world will NOT befriend and allow to prosper.
The “two year window” in the French proposal matches Obama’s remaining ‘two years’ in office. World leaders know they cannot anymore, at election time, ignore their own domestic outcries against israel and defend hefty aid packages to israel without appearing to be in support of Apartheid – a position that would threaten the success of their domestic candidacy. For western politicians, it is just as vilifying and ruinous to be associated with supporting Apartheid as it is with being an antisemite. Any politician worth their salt will avoid these two labels attached to their name at any cost.
America and Europe, behind the scenes, are lining up their ducks to impose a solution on both the Palestinians and israelis. No one can stop this drive now. And they have plenty of time to set it up institutionally, legally and policy-wise. They have plenty of time to prepare their public through government PR and media – the imposing of a 2SS can easily be explained as the world saving israel from itself.
“The Status Quo is Unsustainable” – and the zero hour is fast approaching.
And no matter aipac’s powers and monies and all that – the giant stride to avoid an all out ‘holy war’ in the holy lands, promoted by continuing israeli settlement activity, trumps any shrieking lobbyist and their zionist billionaire paymaster.
Whether israel will accept an imposed solution or go to war with the whole world (a war they would surely lose), is yet to be seen. These are the only two choices left for israel: cooperate on a 2SS based on the ’67 border, or be globally ostracized to breaking point.
It would be most ironic for a people who survived an imposed holocaust to commit mass suicide over their attachment to a failed ideology practiced by a failed state.
No wiggle room left for israel on this issue – no more peace charades – no more buying of time to create more ‘realities on the ground’. Finish – finito – the end of all that! This week the western world took a step or two in a long-overdue new direction – and there is certainly no going back.
I predict that aid to israel will be a controversial issue during this coming 2016 elections, and by 2020 elections, American voters will loudly demand aid be stopped to the only Apartheid state in the word – and the politicians will be forced to finally take notice.
So, adding the numbers, israel and aipac have some 10 years before internal collapse and utter cultural, political, economic and diplomatic ruin.
LOL!! But it’s more truthful to say “those men-like dogs”.
I’m sure throughout history many a “Robert Mason” has tried to console his horrified family/friend/colleague, etc., that the army is protecting them while they sleep. I know I’m protected while I sleep by God and not some dipshit in a K-Mart special uniform with “born to kill” tattooed on his hairless chest.
For them, Palestinians just living is an act of war.
How long will it be before they hit Gaza again?
Anyone who sympathises with religious- fundamentalist terrorists is a right-winger.
I’ve read Marx, Engels, Lenin, Trotsky, Mao, Marcuse, Fidel and Che. Also Socialist-Zionists such as Borochov and Syrkin. The Left does not support religious fundamentalism.
Where have I ever condoned mass murder? Your comment is a blood libel.
I didn’t say that it would be easy, only that it’s possible.
As for the “dead bodies” , the extremist settlers threatened dead bodies- mass suicides, armed resistance- during the withdrawal for Sinai, and from Gush Katif, and , in the end, the withdrawal was implemented without any such bloodshed.
If only, if only. I’d love to believe this was possible, the news about Cuba is a welcome first step and makes America, or should I say Washington, appear a little less petty, vindictive, preposterous.
Just imagining there’s a tornado of ire under Obama’s cool exterior that’ll be used to smash the lobby’s hold on your nation makes me feel sort of warm and fuzzy.
Trap your dog in a corner and repeatedly prod it with a sharp stick – see how well that epigram holds up.
(Please don’t actually try this)
Israel has decided to run a ” fuck you” policy of diplomacy but “fuck you”
Fitch lowers Israel’s credit rating outlook from positive to stable
The downgrade stems from a fear that the Israeli economy is slowing down, from the government’s growing investment in security, and from the raising of the government deficit target in the 2015 budget.