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People, eat broccoli!
Double ditto, Mooser.
Thanks for that. I happen to believe that both Grover and “A4tech” are Zio- supremacists.
(Sorry to say that I think that some few in JVP are as well. As for AIPAC and J Street…’nuff said)
Thanks, “Grover”, I knew I could depend on you (Oh God, let me once in my life fly-fish the stream he comes from) to take the bait.
Look, you got no problem with me, it’s commenter “A4tech” who says:
“JVP is the most widely accepted and respected mainstream Jewish group existing today, and are fully committed to the values of justice and liberty as instructed in the Torah. They are Jewish first and foremost, not Zionist.” – See more at: link to mondoweiss.net
Talk to him about it.
“Nothing good in Arab world. Not the food not the dress,not the culture until sold worn or promoted by a Jewish person.”
Exactly, traintosiberia. It’s sickening.
I loved hearing that music on Friday. The three Yemeni Jewish sisters, A-WA, must turn every Zionist on their heads! Or not.
“As a teacher, I try to do my best to remain faithful to the values that I believe in.”
I’m sure you have never falsified an attendance sheet, or defrauded a school for office supplies. Other than that, what the fuck is this “As a teacher”? Say, two can play at that: “As a Jew, I think you’re full of crap”
“‘Let the People of Israel Enter the Gates and Kill Arabs’
Racist violence has erupted following terrorist attacks in the past, but this time it seems that the Jewish mob which took to the streets was accepted by Jerusalemites with understanding, if not downright approval.
Just like after every other terror attack in recent years, young Jews vented their anger with racist violence for several hours, attacking Arab passersby in Jerusalem on Saturday …
However, in contrast to previous incidents, this time it looked like a very big group and that Jewish residents of Jerusalem accepted their behavior with understanding, as part of the terror routine.
Shortly after the terror attack, in which a Palestinian stabbed to death two Jews, hundreds of people, mostly youths, gathered at Zion Square, answering a call to demonstrate and demand revenge. Bentzi Gopstein, head of Lehava, and right-wing extremists Itamar Ben Gvir and Baruch Marzel were prominent, but they only seemed to be leading the event. In practice, this crowd had no leader but was fueled by a feeling of hate and the desire to take revenge.
Among the demonstrators were Lehava activists, wearing black shirts, young ultra-Orthodox Jews, well-known local right-wing activists and many foreigners, speaking English and French, who joined the mob, and at least one Evangelist preacher, who called on the people of Israel to awaken. In contrast to the past, it looked like women took a significant part in inflaming passions.
“We have to kill them all, including the Arab Druze in the army,” explained one woman to her girlfriend.
It started as a kind of protest of rage, with the familiar calls of “death to terrorists,” “revenge” and “the people demand security.” However, it quickly switched to the no-less familiar calls of “death to Arabs,” “an Arab is a bastard, a Jew is a good soul” and other songs from the fairly limited racist repertoire of the far right in Jerusalem. Some of the organizers sought to lead the mob through Damascus Gate and the Muslim Quarter in the Old City to the site of the terror attack. The police was not about to let that happen and blocked their way between Zion Square and Jaffa Road.
From there, gangs of youths ran amok looking for Arab victims. But Arab workers in central Jerusalem are used to such events, and the vast majority of them fled home before the rioting. Even on the light rail cars, that often serve the Arab population, there were no Arabs. The Jewish youths blocked the rail in the square and “interviewed” passengers to determine their identity.
“Are you an Arab? Are you an Arab?” they called out to a passenger who was probably wise enough to smile without answering.
“Leave him alone. He’s a Jew,” said one of the attackers, and they moved on to look for the next victim. The rest of the passengers responded apathetically and tried to look the other way. There were many drivers who honked in solidarity and vocally supported them. The cafes and restaurants along Jaffa Road were full of people watching the march of hatred passing back and forth.
They found one victim in Mamila Mall, a kitchen worker at the Roladin café who had stepped out for a cigarette. They sprayed teargas in his face. A Palestinian taxi driver was attacked, and when he tried to flee he hit and lightly injured a pedestrian. Dozens of Jewish youths stormed the central Ben Yehuda Street looking for Arab workers. On Jaffa Road, policemen were forced to accompany a vehicle of municipal sanitation workers. At Zion Square, they massed around a circle of people participating in the “Medabrim Bakikar” dialogue group and threatened to assault a Palestinian woman.
But these random victims did not sate their urge and after midnight there was a mass run toward Damascus Gate. They were stopped before the gate by police and pushed back with clubs toward the Musrara neighborhood.
“Let the people of Israel enter the gates and kill Arabs,” one of the youths shouted at the police. “Where were you at seven in the evening? Go beat up Arabs,” a female demonstrator cried, referring to the terror attack earlier that night. Meanwhile, they ran back and forth, following false rumors of Arab passersby and undercover agents hiding among them with calls of death to Arabs.
At 4 A.M., Fadi Alon, a 19-year-old resident of Isawiyya, arrived at the scene. According to the police, he was armed with a weapon and was planning to make an attack. He managed to stab one youth and injure him moderately before he fled and was shot to death by police, who were being egged on by the demonstrators.
Alon’s family asserts that he was caught up in the place by accident, when he went out for a jog and was only seeking to defend himself. His death has set off fears of violence in Isawiyya. There have been over 20 wounded in clashes between police and youths from the village. His father and uncle have been arrested by police.”
read more: link to haaretz.com
This is what impunity for the myriad crimes that Israel is has become. The very wicked idea of supremacy/chosenness is what prompted this disaster.
This is the reaction the Israel haters Vilkomerson, Surasky, Berman and Rosen had when they discovered they were Jewish and could use it as a tool to spread the hatred:
“I also object to using the Bible or other texts to justify present-day brutality and injustice. I prefer to make use of the passages that talk about peace and social justice and equality. – See more at:”
Yes, “Jon s” that’s very true, you do “prefer to prefer to make use of the passages that talk about peace and social justice and equality” “to justify present-day brutality and injustice.”
In fact, you probably consider yourself an expert at it.
And you “never lie deliberately on this blog” “It’s a little promise” you made to yourself. “Not that anybody would ever know”.
How the hell do you plan to get your credibility back “Jon s”?
Last Friday afternoon NPR played few tracks from an album. Lyric was good,so was the music. It was really a wonderful experience. NPR. was fulsome in praising deservingly so
Then I heard NPR giving the background and airing the interview with the singers.
It explained everything .
Yemeni song and music being promoted by three Yemeni Jews from Israel.
Why haven’t we heard it before?
Nothing good in Arab world. Not the food not the dress,not the culture until sold worn or promoted by a Jewish person.
Sea change in the air war over Syria: Air Duel between the Sukhoi Su – 30 Russian SM and Israeli F-15:
EXCLUSIVE-Strategika 51: Six Russian fighter jets type Multirole Sukhoi SU – 30 SM have intercepted 4 Israeli McDonnell Douglas F-15’s fighter bombers attempting to infiltrate the Syrian coast.The Israeli F 15 warplanes have been flying over Syrian airspace for months and in particular the coast of Latakia, which is now the bridgehead of the Russian forces in Syria.
The Israeli jets would generally follow a fairly complex flight plan and approach Latakia from the sea
On the night of 1 October 02, 2015, six Sukhoi SU-30 Russian SM fighters took off from the Syrian Hmimim airbase in the direction of Cyprus, before changing course and intercepting the four Israeli F-15 fighters off the coast of Syria, that were flying in attack formation.
Surprised by a situation as unexpected and probably not prepared for a dogfight with one of the best Russian multipurpose fighters, Israeli pilots have quickly turned back South at high speed over the Lebanon.
I think that he’s bathing in the Manischewitz and the stolan Golan wine regularly.
So, Grover: Which University did you attend? Any? Rabbi Brant Rosen is a beautiful and authentic Jewish human being.
As for Gomer Pyle:
The abject dishonesty of the New York Times on Israel is a central story in the world today. This series of articles on the NYT’s blatant dishonesty deserves a Pulitzer Prize. The centrality of this story reflects the centrality of the NYT’s role in setting the standards of journalism for America. The meaning of the story is that America is living in a Gaza of the mind, with its mainstream news controlled by war profiteers. We have The War Profiteer Times, The War Profiteer Post, War Profiteer Evening News, and various Sunday morning discussion shows controlled by the war profiteers.
At some point this story will break wide open, because once people know what the actual facts are, they can’t help notice those facts are going unreported by their favorite respected news source. They will become VERY angry.
“Grober” got into the Manischewitz again.
People eat broccoli?
Well done, Kris.
(Wanna make a bet that Jon has no DNA from his “homeland” that has only been proclaimed since 1948? It was Palestine then, and it is Palestine now.)
“Okay, “Grover”, and “Yonah”, and “Hophmi” and “mcohen”, you heard the man! JVP is the most widely accepted and respected mainstream Jewish group existing today. Who could argue with that!”
Mooser, Let me help you:
The only thing Jewish about JVP is nothing. They cynically and farcically use Judaism in their attemp to spread their hatred of Israel. They are as full of shit as their leaders Vilkomerson, Surasky, the idiot “Rabbi” Berman and the other idiot “Rabbi” Brant Rosen. I purposely put quotes around Rabbi because they got their Smichas from the University of Phoenix. They were watching reruns of Gomer Pyle when they got hooked by the University of Phoenix commercial.
@jon s: “I choose to live on land that is part of my people’s historic homeland, and, as you know, I acknowledge that it’s also the Palestinian homeland. That’s the situation, that’s what needs to be settled.”
Thanks, jon s, now I understand. I’m going to book my flight to Sweden right away. There is a farm there that I want, and I can get the weapons that I need to take it away from the immigrants who have been living there. Their roots are in South Asia, if you can believe it. My family was in Sweden eons ago. Let’s not even get started on whose DNA is Swedish. (spoiler alert: mine)
Sure, these untermenchen think Sweden is now their “homeland,” and I can understand that they could feel that way. That’s the situation, and that’s what needs to be settled. Meanwhile, they can get out peacefully, or they can get hurt. Their choice.
You are moved to live in another person’s land and treat them worse than slaves. (“I choose to live on land that is part of my people’s historic homeland”), yet you acknowledge that “For the most part I don’t read the Bible for historical accuracy. I read it –and other Jewish texts – for the great stories, for the fantastic cast of characters, for the human insights, for the moral dilemmas, for the quality of the prose and the poetry”?
Seriously? Are you trying to be one of the “fantastic cast” in your horrible justification of present day genocide fable? I remember you lambasting a fellow traveler recently:
“As I said, it saddens me that a person raised as a Jew rejects her heritage, and is left with nothing but hatred. You seem to have internalized anti-Jewish stereotypes (“full court Jewish establishment”) and tropes (“murderous rampages of the henchmen of Mordecai against men women and children…”- totally false, read the Megillah.) I’m non-Orthodox, and left-wing, but I still find much I can relate to in the Passover story. The central theme is to remember : that we were slaves in Egypt , and were liberated, and the memory should be very up-close and personal – we should all consider ourselves as having been liberated from bondage. In the Bible itself we are told repeatedly to remember the oppression in Egypt for a purpose- so as not to do the same to others. In Exodus (22:20): And you shall not mistreat a stranger, nor shall you oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt.And again: (Exodus 23:9): And you shall not oppress a stranger, for you know the feelings of the stranger, since you were strangers in the land of Egypt. Also in Deuteronomy (10:19): You shall love the stranger, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt. We recite the plagues in unison, taking a drop of wine out of our cup with each one. Don Yitzhak Abarbenel (1437-1508) interpreted this custom as reflecting the idea that the joy in our salvation –as expressed in the full cup of wine- is reduced because of the sufferings of the Egyptian people, who are our fellow human beings. This point reminds me of the Midrash according to which God rebuked the angels for wanting to sing when the Egyptians were drowning in the Red Sea : “The works of my hands are drowning in the sea, and you wish to sing praises?!? “(Talmud Tractate Megillah 10b). In other words, Danaa, there’s a lot to discuss and a lot to learn, while reaffirming and continuing our people’s traditions and heritage. You can go to the gym any other day.” – See more at: link to mondoweiss.net
You’re two sides of the same coin.
Disingenuous to the end.
@ Jon’s “For the most part I don’t read the Bible for historical accuracy. I read it –and other Jewish texts – for the great stories, for the fantastic cast of characters, for the human insights, for the moral dilemmas, for the quality of the prose and the poetry.
For example, the story of the Exodus from Egypt, for which there’s no real historical or archaeological evidence. Yet it’s a great story, a nation of slaves emerging from bondage to freedom, an inspiration for oppressed people for centuries. That’s why so many Jews, including non-orthodox, conduct Passover seders and retell the story every year.”
– See more at: link to mondoweiss.net
You’re living a supremacist fairy tale and teaching it to kids. You want a “story”?
“Israel intends to legalize five West Bank outposts containing settlers who committed violence against Palestinians” – See more at: link to mondoweiss.net
“Eid in the rubble”
link to mondoweiss.net
“Al-Aqsa mosque belongs to Muslims’ is rallying cry for widespread protest” – See more at: link to mondoweiss.net
“Facing Reality: Jewish terrorism is no longer limited to just a few bad seeds” – See more at: link to mondoweiss.net
“Celebrating Eid al-Adha in Gaza”
link to mondoweiss.net
“Wanted: The killer of Hadeel al-Hashlamoun”
link to mondoweiss.net
Et Cetera Ad Nauseam…………….
Is there ANY decent MSM news source in the US, or is it all propaganda?
Really jon? What is your family history? And your neighboues? Did they live there a hundred years ago? 500? What entitles you to disposses my generation, my fatheror grandfather?
I phrase it that way as you may have aconnection but the majority are east european and north american theives.
As an atheist all i can say is dont ask for respect for your religious beleifs when yoylu subscribeto rank immorality. Suck it up sunshine
Indeed. Thank you.
“Your people’s historic homeland”?
You must be insane.
Not the kind of irrational belief allowable in a teacher of history.
You should be teaching religion. Only.
Play the US? Do you see many foreigners who do that in these last years anyway?
the side with the power has the power to stop
the side without the power is forced to interact
if one can call playing on the beach at a family get together
and such as that interacting with the agressor
Just, I choose to live on land that is part of my people’s historic homeland, and, as you know, I acknowledge that it’s also the Palestinian homeland. That’s the situation, that’s what needs to be settled.
As a teacher, I try to do my best to remain faithful to the values that I believe in. I’m sorry if that makes you sad.
shot through the heart and you’re to blame Bon Jovi & Co. you give love a bad name
may you remember those who were murdered because they stood for love and peace whenever you think of Israel and whenever you make use of that stolen blood money
‘The description was an apparent reference to a quote posted by Ms Shaked on the social network site last July shortly after the bodies of three Israeli teenagers abducted by Palestinian militants were discovered murdered in the West Bank.
The quote – lifted from an article written in 2002 by a Jewish settler – read: ” Behind every terrorist stand dozens of men and women, without whom he could not engage in terrorism.
“They are all enemy combatants, and their blood shall be on all their heads. Now this also includes the mothers of the martyrs, who send them to hell with flowers and kisses. They should follow their sons, nothing would be more just. They should go, as should the physical homes in which they raised the snakes. Otherwise, more little snakes will be raised there.”
The post appeared a day before Jewish vigilantes abducted Mohammed Abu Khdeir, a 16-year-old Palestinian, from outside his East Jerusalem home before beating and burning him to death in revenge for the West Bank killings. Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Turkey’s then prime minister and now president, cited the quote in comparing Ms Shaked to Adolf Hitler.
Ms Shaked, a mother-of-two, protested that the quote had been mistranslated into English from Hebrew and insisted she was not calling for indiscriminate killing.
It was not her first controversial comment about Palestinians. Asked during a 2012 Israeli television interview if she hoped her husband – an Israeli airforce pilot – “would be pounding the Arabs hard with bombs” when he flew, she laughed and then replied: “Yes.’
She said what she meant.
For the most part I don’t read the Bible for historical accuracy. I read it –and other Jewish texts – for the great stories, for the fantastic cast of characters, for the human insights, for the moral dilemmas, for the quality of the prose and the poetry.
For example, the story of the Exodus from Egypt, for which there’s no real historical or archaeological evidence. Yet it’s a great story, a nation of slaves emerging from bondage to freedom, an inspiration for oppressed people for centuries. That’s why so many Jews, including non-orthodox, conduct Passover seders and retell the story every year.
Millions of Jews regard themselves as part of the Jewish people and seek to preserve our unique identity. So that’s another reason for maintaining certain traditions and rituals such as kosher food or Bible and Talmud study or the Passover seder and much more . In many cases it’s a matter of belonging more than believing. All this is done voluntarily , and , speaking for myself, it’s usually enjoyable. Nobody is “kidnapped”.
You assert that there’s no “Christian people ” or “Muslim people”. Think of this: you can’t be a “Christian atheist ‘ or a “Muslim atheist”. There are no such terms or categories. On the other hand , there are Jewish atheists, plenty of them. That’s because Christianity and Islam are religions and Judaism is not only a religion.
I also object to using the Bible or other texts to justify present-day brutality and injustice. I prefer to make use of the passages that talk about peace and social justice and equality.
Joke of the day: Jordan, the steward of the Muslim holy site, has said that it is mulling recalling its ambassador from Israel.
As if King Playstation would ever do anything what his Las Vegas masters dislike.
If it would be for real, Jordan would be shipping weapons and fighters for the liberation of Palestine instead of targetting the resistance in Syria.
Not this year I didn’t. :)
According to Amira Hass, Abbas is helpless to stop the violence, in part because,
“What his public sees is the resounding failure of his way and defeatism at best, and conscious collaboration with Israel at worst. Thus, even Abbas, who is out of touch with his public more than any other Palestinian leader, cannot ignore the scorn for him and the descent of his status to an unprecedented low. ”
The liberal anti-anti-Semites should prove their liberalism by putting firmly on the table a fully worked out formula for a 2ss and therefore for the ending of the so-called Occupation, the thing which is causing major disagreements between Jewish and other people in the ME. If they would do this they would render the world good service, even if their plans were to be rejected, and their other mistakes could be overlooked. We would learn a lot when we saw who did the rejecting and for what ostensible reasons. If they clearly fight shy of doing this then they will equally clearly be supporters of the illiberal status quo.
The comparison is wrong. It is obscene and offensive only because you consider yourself as part of tbe vixtim class. The children who have been slaughtered by zionism would consider your defense to be obscene and offensive.
Look in the mirror. The enemy is you.
The comparison is obscene, absurd and offensive.
Also, since Gaza is in Palestine and Warsaw in Poland, how can they be “same place”? Makes as much sense as the rest…
Really, jon s? Is there a BDS movement against the U.S. by any of our victims? Please provide links; I haven’t heard of it yet.
Obviously, if BDS has been called against the U.S., everyone should honor it. It would be wonderful if the U.S. and Israel were boycotted, sanctioned, and entirely isolated. Maybe they would decide to start honoring international law.
“Anf if you perform in the USA you’re…/…trial of the Guantanamo prisoners “
I’m sorry, “Jon s” is there some list of performers Mondo is demanding must play the US in spite of those things? I’m sure many performers won’t play the US.
And yet you choose to live on land belonging to someone else.
As for Roger Waters~ bs, Jon. Bon Jovi is “pop”. Fade away. Roger Waters is a man for all time and for all seasons. A real human being.
Your shtick is boring and oh, so wrong. I’m sad that you claim to be a “teacher”.
Anf if you perform in the USA you’re shoulder-to-shoulder
With the bombers of a wedding in Yemen
With the bombers of a hospital in Afghanistan
With the imprisonment without trial of the Guantanamo prisoners
and so on…
“You stand…/….the Anti-Semites”
Uh, “Jon s” I want to get one thing clear. Are the things you mentioned the excuse for the things Roger Waters mentioned, or are they the reason for them?
I don’t quite get what the relation is between the things. Could you explain? And most fascinating, what are the “And so on”s? Is it like “ad infinitum” or something?
Yes it would be easy to copy. Originality takes an extra effort. Pretty much like Teva.
Only one of the two sides are colonists oppressing the original inhabitants.
Both sides perpetrate wrongs in my mind but the side with the power exercises it’s agency to perpetrate further crimes against humanity while crying before the world at every incident where the victims fight back.
The moral highground in the middle east is around the height of an anthill and it is one piece of high ground israel has avoided at all costs.
“Goebbelsian habit of sneakily putting words in the mouth of others while pretending to quote, -” echino
I am glad that you are an expert in biology and many other things. By fellow traveler I mean people who share the same ideas. Is there some other deeper meaning? Well I bet you will forgive a newcomer to the host.
Anyway, what’s the use of all that knowledge if it only serves to embitter?
Bon Jovi’s personal manager is Irving Azoff, known in the business as “the poison dwarf.” Reference is to both his side and demeanor.
This goes beyond the coverage of Israel/Palestine. I think you’d also have had great difficulty as a NYT reader knowing how many civilians our forces were killing in Iraq and Afghanistan– the most recent study on mortality in the Iraq war published in 2013 in PLOS found that 35 percent of the violent deaths ( though this would include insurgents) were caused by coalition forces. You would not have gotten much or any sense of civilians killed by our forces except on rare occasions– virtually all coverage was on the sectarian war ( of course, even much of that was our doing.)
I once tried writing a piece on Fallujah and the contrast between even the conservative numbers of Iraq Body Count vs. the NYT, but didn’t fully finish it. To do a really good job tracking down all possible sources of info would be beyond me, but even just relying on IBC the NYT looks bad.
“The crime of colonisation is committed by the state, not by the individual.”
Oh for God’s sake, man, how stupid do you think we are? That’s supposed to confer some kind of immunity (or in this case, complete impunity) for the people involved, carrying out what you just said is a crime of the state! Sure, that makes sense.
Hey, I know, since only the State is committing the crime, the individual settlers (who have ROTFLMSJAO no connection with the State) are innocent, naturally, the IDF has to protect them, right? Because, you know, they are persecuted individual Jews, redeeming the land, which is (yeah, that’s the ticket!) an individual religious act?
If you do that she’ll be our next President, hands down!.
Great, moving letter by Waters. Bon Jovi’s not interested. He’s just excited to go play in Israel. I wonder who his agent is….
“… all can be readily sacrificed to the overarching mission of ethnic and religious homogeneity.”
What the f*&k is she then?
Answered in the first phrase. A Nazi.
Always a good idea to avoid words and set expressions you don’t know, like “fellow traveler”, and to refrain from the Goebbelsian habit of sneakily putting words in the mouth of others while pretending to quote, like “parasite”, in this case switching register to a domain you have no idea about like biology –thereby spreading the egg on your face with your own hands, too.
You won’t even understand what I’m saying, so start digging if you want to.
Well well, look at that, “a4tech” is a devotee of Dr. Pangloss! That always cures what ails you, as long as there’s nothing wrong.
“Analytic and Algebraic Topology of Locally Euclidean Metrization of Infinitely Differentiable Riemannian Manifold”
1. The topology is inherent in the Riemannian manifold and the metrization is irrelevant to it.
2. All Riemannian manifolds possess a locally Euclidean metric.
3. Not clear what analytic topology means here but if things like convergence, compactness, connectedness these are pretty trivial in this context too.
Tom Lehrer is a statistician – not a pure mathematician.
I had joined JVP with hopes of aligning w an organization advocating for an end to Zionist abuses. Imagine my surprise when they decide to ban and excoriate the very dedicated Alison Weir who I view as a dedicated, highly principled woman who has the zeal of a convert, an analogue to Medea Benjamin in dedication. How could they make such a decision unless Allison was exposing some uncomfortable facts about the sordid history of Israel’s crimes, past and on-going? If only Anericans knew of such Operations such as the USS Liberty, the Iraq war intelligence manipulation, et al. No, I believe it has a misleading title designed to be a false ally to legitimite protest groups who do really desire a change in the formula to bring justice to the Palestinians.
Well if aspirin isn’t strong enough, I believe it was at Bayer that heroin was first refined from a morphine base.
You are right about the tomatoes. They were considered poisonous by the Americans.
Broccolli is very good when slathered in garlic-infused olive oil, topped with grated Parmesan.
Thank you. We live on the sea, so….
I love that avatars are small and don’t show the tomato stains on the frock, the grey hair amongst the black, and the wrinkles fighting to get out. ;)
So, NYT doesn’t report Jewish terrorism and violence? Nothing new here.
American Jews need a news-and-petition home-page to concentrate political action for Israeli-Palestinian truth-telling.
It is for the American Jewish people to petition the NYT to print news of Israeli (government and civilian) terrorism and violence, not just Palestinian terrorism and violence.
It is for JVP and (the few) decent-ethical-and-brave rabbis to call attention to Israeli crimes, call them what the are, crimes, and demand the NYT cover these stories.
Antidote : My father was a Scot, as was my late husband, a Glaswegian, who lived his entire life in Glasgow. I also lived in Glasgow. I have relatives in Scotland who live in Glasgow, outwith Fort William, and the Western Isles.
The Scots aren’t anti-Semetic, something that native Jewish Scots, people who had grown up in Scotland assured me was, and is, true.
Scots are a direct people, brutally direct, and will say what they think. Hasbara won’t work on Scots, and typically a Scot will call a liar and bullshitter to his face.
@Antidote : “And you may want to google: Antisemitism in Scotland. Plenty of hits. Appears to be an epidemic recently. Not unrelated to Zionism and Israel. But how come Independence minded Scots are supposedly the most anti-semitic?”
Not surprising. Though it isn’t ‘anti-Semitism’. It’s ordinary people expressing opposition to a murderous, thieving regime. The zionistas can call it anything they want, but calling the Scots anti-Semites isn’t true, and everyone (except maybe the poor, ignorant Americans) know better than to believe zionista slurs.
As for bragging – Netanyahoo style – Scots will respond to a braggart, bringing him back to earth, by saying : Ah kent yer faither. (IOW, You’re not so special. I know who you are and where you came from.)
In Glasgow, the Chabad makes Kosher haggis every year for the Kosher Burns Supper. And why not? They’re Scots, after all. Amongst the offical tartans, there is a Jewish one, and it’s official and properly registered with the Scottish Tartans Authority.
Scotland is an immigrant country with waves of Angles, Picts, Vikings, Jutes, Normans, French, Gaels, and others coming as invaders or settlers. Immigration has continued to today, with new Scots coming from India and Pakistan, Poland and central Europe, Italians,people who are Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Eastern Orthodox, Buddhist, and others. All are Scottish.
FYI, in my comment I was quoting Rudoren’s words in the referenced article, which clearly stated the Golan was ‘illegally’ annexed by Israel in 1981. In doing a littlle research, I find conflicting ‘truths’ on this issue. The consensus however is that Israel did indeed unilaterally annex the territory captured from Syria in the ’67 war ( December 15, 1981 ), act that was strongly condemned by the UNSC and the US State Department. Subsequently, Israel instituted Israeli civil law in the Golan and issued Israeli ID cards to the few thousands settlers living there. Whether it annulled the annexation is not clear, but the facts on the ground and the recent building activity in the area clearly indicate Israel’s intentions.
@ yonah fredman
“Who should Israel give the Golan back to?”
Good question. And good timing for you to be asking that question now, when Syria is “disitegrating and it’s hard to imagine a stable state to which the territory could be returned to” (and here Rudoren is quoting, I believe, the mayor of Merom Golan, who also goes on to say “We no longer have to feel guilty living on this land – after 50 years, it is now Israel”) . So there you have it, as the very title of the article points out: “As Syria reels Israel looks to expand settlements in the Golan Heights”. In other words, taking advantage of the Syrian crisis to establish some more facts on the ground.
My question to you is, what was the excuse to NOT give back the land in all those 50 years, when Syria WAS a stable country?
“According to what I see, the Third Intifada has erupted. What is happening to al-Aqsa [mosque] is what is happening to our holy sites, and what is happening to the women of al-Aqsa is what is happening to our mothers and women. I don’t believe that our people will succumb to humiliation. The people will indeed rise up.”
“Oh God, look at the situation we’ve reached. This is completely unreasonable. Anger, anger and more anger. Wake up from your slumber and save al-Aqsa. Let the revolution erupt.”
. “According to the law, you have the full right to defend yourself against he who points a weapon at your face. Resistance lies within the boundaries of the law.”
“Nice speech Mr. President, but we do not recognize east and west Jerusalem. We know only that Jerusalem is one, undivided, and that every part of it is holy. Excuse me, Mr. President, but what is happening to the women of al-Aqsa and to al-Aqsa will not be stopped by peaceful measures. We were not raised to be humiliated.”
“Defending the sanctity of al-Aqsa and its women is our pride and honor,” he continued. “Defending those with all means would be considered legal. I thank your efforts, Mr. President.”
He then proceeded to liken “Palestine” to a young orphan girl whose brothers had forsaken her to “an evil man with no children, who does not know how to treat children.” In Halabi’s parable, the evil man, symbolizing Israel, was unable to rape Palestine, but nevertheless “starved her, denied her rights, imprisoned her and burned her.”
I wandered deliriously in a desert once. Came across a stock pond. Milky green, warm, rodents, bees, moths, feathers and frog soup floating in it. Felt I had seconds before death, so I buried my face and drank deep. Surprising delicious. An hour or so later my guys found me. Not even an upset stomach. I’ve eaten everything I’ve seen since.
Oh, the point: Shipwrecked sailors probably among greatest food discoverers/testers ever.
Have I told this story before?
I think there were side-effects.
Quoting Times of Israel, “Jon Bon Jovi dedicates song ‘We Don’t Run’ to Israel”.
Quoting Moon Zappa, “Barf out. Gag me with a spoon.”
Nutty promises harsh offensive on violence….. while totally ignoring the despicable daily violence inflicted on Palestinians by the racist scum euphemistically referred to as settlers.
I continue to think a resolution of Israel/Palestine problem must be imposed by world powers. Give Palestine full UN recognition with “1967” borders, and work from there.
” I grow both eating tomatoes as well as cooking tomatoes,”
Didn’t I read somewhere that tomatoes were, for a long time, considered to be poisonous? In fact, some guy had to go to the town square (in Italy someplace, maybe France?) and eat tomatoes and not die before people accepted them. Did I read that, or did I make it up?
Makes me wonder how they convinced people to eat broccoli….
Mooser: “They should be expunged to the outer darkness…”
” You so wish to be Anglo though that you can’t even enjoy the privileges you were born with.”
Okay, “catalan” that’s enough of that. You can stop hinting. I’ve already told everybody about “Anne Glow”. Frankly, I think a little gender-bending would be good for you, too.
Our Spanish Rose puncuation policewoman, is starting to stifle my creativity. I’m always looking up to make sure she isn’t coming down the isle to rap my knuckles with her great horned wizard stick. I’m even having nightmares. I mean,,,Oscar worthy productions. I even googled Glen Close, so I could confront my fears.
Back to MonteCristo’s and Balvenie.
|| yonah fredman: The infuriating (and unjust) occupation and leadership of Netanyahu (and his coalition) … ||
… and the unwavering, “no light between” support he gets from Zio-supremacist Jews in Israel and from Zio-supremacists around the world.
The people who believe:
– in Jewish supremacism in/and a supremacist “Jewish State” in as much as possible of Palestine;
– that acts of injustice and immorality committed against Jews justify acts of injustice and immorality committed by Jews;
– that Jews are entitled to do unto others acts of injustice and immorality they would not have others do unto them; and
– that loyalty to a religion-supremacist “Jewish State” is an essential part of being Jewish.
Amigo : I grow both eating tomatoes as well as cooking tomatoes, the Italian plum kind which we can and freeze to add to curries and stews throughout the year.
(Have I mentioned that we live on a working farm and a cidrerie? Of course, our major crop is apples, though my teenage sons have added additional fruit trees in anticipation of diversifying the cidre.)
As a farmer, it tears me apart when I read of the Palestinian olive trees burned and uprooted.
About olive trees:
“From seed, the first seven years is mostly unproductive. Seven to thirty years the tree grows with a constant increase in productivity. From thirty-five to one hundred and fifty the tree reaches maturity and is in full production. At one hundred and fifty years, the olive tree starts aging with a remarkable productivity for centuries, and sometimes for over a thousand years or more!
As for irrigation : It’s rare that we need to irrigate in northern France and in the UK. When we do, we use ordinary plastic piping rather than emitters, or a kind of simple device that I invented which is designed to work on trees.
“Marriage services for Jews in Israel are controlled by the state rabbinate. Israel has no civil marriage, so there is no existing framework that could be expanded to include gay couples. – See more at: link to mondoweiss.net
How does military avoid the quandary? Cam gay men lesbian women from military apply as a couple for mortgage without being married?
“And a truly moral legal system would impose severe penalties on those who replace commas with ellipses, and put commas after subject clauses or compound subjects*. I would suggest lesser penalties for confusing “its” with “it’s”.”
And typographical emoticons are to run untrammeled, unstymied, hog-wild through the land, wreaking death and destruction on punctuation? Okay then, tell me where punctuation ends and TE begins? I tell you, those things are a snake in the turf, knobbling literary front-runners, and bringing all the punters to grief. They should be expunged to the outer darkness, where there is, or so reliable reports inform me, much wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Darn it, wish I could gnash mine. Oh well, I guess those days are over.
Gaza and the Warsaw Ghetto
while the world stands by
Zionism and Naziism
same deadly hatred
while the world stands by
What is a Jew?
What is Art?
That was comment No. 4 from “Lorensacho”!
Reminds me of the old joke about the stunt artist who erected a two-hundreds foot high platform, and dove into a vat of flaming gas. His agent said it was the greatest act he ever saw. The artist said “Yes, but there’s one problem.”
“What’s that”? asked the agent. And as they took the artist off to the hospital he said “I can only do it once!”
(Punctuation is a gift for RoHa).
“The situation looks hopeless and though the spilling of lives is such a horrible thing, it seems inevitable.”
Hey “Yonah”, can I get a couple bottles of whatever you’re taking? It sure makes you nonchalant. Makes you a real cool customer.
Now “Yonah” try and peer through the fog and answer the question Who made the violence “inevitable”?
“The Iran deal did not pass the Congress, it merely avoided Congressional veto.”
Wow, I thought I could party hearty, but I’ve never seen a man just up-end an entire bottle of pilpul into his mouth and swallow like that! Yup, by the end of the comment he’s staggering. I hope EMTs are standing by!
“What the f*&k is she then? What is a Jew? What does it mean?”
Judaism, like any religion, can be, and is whatever a person, or group of people, want it to be.
Look, “catalan” I accept the fact that you aren’t smart enough to distinguish an immigrant from a refugee from a colonist. – Mooser
I was referring to the idea that newcomers should not change “the host” to which your fellow traveller echinococcus alluded. These references to hosts and parasites have something of a nationalist ring to them so therefore my sarcasm.
But please, teach me about refugees vs immigrants. I think it is safe to say one thing – you will never have to be either. You so wish to be Anglo though that you can’t even enjoy the privileges you were born with. There are a few like that everywhere it seems.
“Analytic and Algebraic Topology of Locally Euclidean Metrization of Infinitely Differentiable Riemannian Manifold”
Oh, screw all that fancy casting, porting, and polishing, just hang a turbo on the sucker (better still, a pair) and turn up the boost!
“Mortgages are usually cheaper and less stressful.”
Are you kidding? I’ve been a nervous wreck ever since I made the final payment. Who the hell lives in a house without paying rent or a mortgage? I lie awake nights waiting for the city to evict me for squatting. I try to tell myself I am house-sitting, but then I think “Jeez, when the owners get home they will kill me! Look at this place!”
The stress is killing me. If I had teeth, I would grind them. How I wish I was comfortably upside-down, underwater again, where a man can breath.
“Couldn’t agree more! As an immigrant myself…”
Look, “catalan” I accept the fact that you aren’t smart enough to distinguish an immigrant from a refugee from a colonist.
But don’t expect the rest of us to be that dumb.
“JVP is the most widely accepted and respected mainstream Jewish group existing today,
Ah, the age of miracles has not passed! Finally, a “widely accepted and respected mainstream Jewish group” which is anti-Zionist!
I’ve waited all my life for this!
Okay, “Grover”, and “Yonah”, and “Hophmi” and “mcohen”, you heard the man! JVP is the most widely accepted and respected mainstream Jewish group existing today. Who could argue with that!
Yes, of course.
But when forced to apologize, he should fall off his chair again.
I also think they are worried about their jobs and future prospects. Helen Thomas was demonized for speaking her mind and using her right to free speech. A horrible example of the zionist media controlling what is said against Israel.
“How very convenient for you…”
Shorter “a4tech”: “I couldn’t find a quote saying JVP is anti-Zionist. How inconvenient”
One Google, a quick read, and a copy-n-paste is all it would have taken. One sentence. Really, it’s not that hard, lot’s of people do it. Don’t even have to link it, but don’t forget the quote marks, since it is a quote. But it’s not there, is it?
(Prime Minister Binyamin) Netanyahu is reaping what he sowed
A bumper crop of violence is exactly what Netanyahu wants.
We owe a lot to Israel. Without it we would have to eat Roma tomatoes, or grape tomatoes, or plum tomatoes, or for the want of very durable varieties we would be at the mercy of local farmers and just eat produce grown within 300 miles from home. We would have to use a bit less convenient forms of flash memories. We would stupidly use ceramic pipes for drip irrigation instead of plastic ones. Humus would never become popular without Israeli advise. And so on and so on. But does it mean that we have to have insane and immoral foreign policy?
Belgium is a delightful country that contributed a lot. Suppose that they had a minor request to support them running Congo Free State in the manner designed by King Leopold. Should we do it?
It wasn’t my idea that the “criminals” got what they deserved.
I’m not the one who said without any qualifiers, “People who are committing crimes don’t get to whine about getting hurt. The idea is absurd. ”
was the “crime” that you believe that this man committed a capital offense?