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Mooser
October 30, 2014, 8:05 pm

“Over the years, Obama administration officials have described Netanyahu to me as recalcitrant, myopic, reactionary, obtuse, blustering, pompous, and “Aspergery.” (These are verbatim descriptions; I keep a running list.)”

Of course, the context in which those pejoratives are used, and the reasons why strong language is resorted to, Goldberg has forgotten. Of that he keeps no “running list.”

Mooser
October 30, 2014, 7:58 pm

Would be wonderful if they had access to some skate-boarding helmets and pads. The stuff is not very expensive, and can make a huge difference.

Mooser
October 30, 2014, 7:52 pm

table hosted by Taglit-Birthright Israel, which provides trips to Israel exclusively for Jewish students…”

So they have space for an expressly discriminatory project? And the wrong kind of people can’t even approach the table? I must not be getting this.

yonah fredman
October 30, 2014, 7:44 pm

East jerusalem, including the old city, including the Jewish Quarter and including the Western Wall, is occupied territory and playing with the status quo or ripping up the status quo is a political act and should not be undertaken period, but certainly should not be undertaken with the assumption that everything is hunky-dory and Israel is merely interested in protecting the freedom of religious expression of those who jews who wish to pray on a holy site.

Everything else being equal I would wish that the Muslims controlling the site would be more amenable to Jews who wish to pray there, but everything else is not equal, the site is a source of political tensions (in occupied territory) and quieting political tensions should be the priority rather than the freedom of religion aspect.

Mooser
October 30, 2014, 7:30 pm

“The other day I was talking to a senior Obama administration official about the foreign leader who seems to frustrate the White House and the State Department the most. “The thing about Bibi is, he’s a chickenshit,” this official said, referring to the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, by his nickname.

This comment is representative of the gloves-off manner in which American and Israeli officials now talk about each other behind closed doors,”

“This comment is representative“? Okay, then there’s no need to get too upset.

Mooser
October 30, 2014, 7:22 pm

I’m assuming the quote from Goldberg has been authenticated?

gracie fr
October 30, 2014, 7:12 pm

Under mounting religious tension (and housing takeovers in adjacent Silwan) there was bound to be “an Incident” which has more to do with steady disenfranchisement of traditional Waqf oversight of Muslim Holy places and displacement of Palestinians than outright “ethnic hatred” of Israelis;

With East Jerusalem already smoldering, it emerged this week that the Israeli parliament is to consider a bill that could set the region ablaze. The measure would lift limitations on Jews visiting the al-Aqsa mosque compound, the most sensitive site in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Details of the measure have yet to be published. But one possibility is that it will overturn a prohibition in Israeli law on Jews praying at the site, ending also a rabbinical injunction against such activities. Other reports, however, suggested it would extend visiting times for Jews, possibly by forcing the Islamic authorities to divide the site and create a dedicated area for Jewish visitors.

The bill that apparently has the backing of the Eli Ben Dahan – Israeli politican, Rabbi and the deputy religious services minister – would create arrangements similar to those already in place in Hebron where there are security procedures and restrictions on times of worship.

Jewish settlers posing as tourists have been visiting al Aqsa in ever larger numbers. During the week-long Jewish holiday of Sukkot this month, hundreds of such “tourists” were escorted by armed police on to the esplanade, triggering a furious response from Muslim worshippers.

Jordan, which is officially responsible for the site, protested to Israel. The Jordanian ambassador to Palestine, Khalid al-Shawabka, told Maan TV that “the al-Aqsa mosque and Jerusalem are red lines”.

link to middleeasteye.net
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ckg
October 30, 2014, 7:12 pm

One American adult was critically wounded and two American children were killed in Jerusalem in the past ten days. From Jen Psaki’s statements, guess which two were Jewish and which one was Palestinian:
A)

But let me say we condemn yesterday’s shooting of a U.S. citizen in Jerusalem. Our thoughts and prayers are with the family. We’re in touch with authorities as we seek more information.

B)

The United States condemns in the strongest possible terms today’s terrorist attack in Jerusalem. We express our deepest condolences to the family…

C)

The United States expresses its deepest condolences to the family of a U.S. citizen minor who was killed by the Israeli Defense Forces during clashes in Silwad on October 24. Officials from the U.S. Consulate General in Jerusalem are in contact with the family…

talknic
October 30, 2014, 7:05 pm

@ adel hashemi “It is a fact that most Arabs in Israel would rather live under Israeli sovereignty than under an Arab one”

Of course. What makes you think anyone would agree to their state wanting to get rid of them?

“How does that jibe with the “abysmal treatment of its own citizens” claim? “

Getting rid of your own citizens is not abysmal? WOW!

“I am an Arab and I know 8 Israeli Arabs in my area in NYC. With the exception of one from the Negev, all are happy to be Israeli citizens. Three of them are on state scholarships doing graduate work at American universities and intend to return to Israel to work there”

Maybe they like living in their traditional home land even if it is now called Israel.

BTW you say you’re an American, born in Jordan to Palestinian Arab parents. Refugees. Sorry to hear that

Citizens of Jordan are Jordanian

just
October 30, 2014, 6:42 pm

I don’t know about that, but I knew about this:

“RAMALLAH (Ma’an) — PLO Executive Committee Member Hanan Ashrawi said Monday that a new plan to allow Jewish Israelis to enter East Jerusalem’s Al-Aqsa Mosque compound through a second gate was a “loud insult” to Muslims around the world.

“Israel is creating a new reality at the expense of Palestinians, their religious rights, sites, and historical identity,” Ashrawi said in a statement.

“They are violating the sanctity of religious sites without consequences, which completely terminates possibilities for peace and will ultimately drag the whole region into disastrous clashes.”

Ashrawi, who is a Palestinian Christian, also said that Israel was using religion to control holy sites that do not belong to it.

She called on the international community to hold Israel accountable for what she called “violations” against Muslim and Christian holy sites in East Jerusalem and the rest of Palestine.

Army radio announced earlier that the Israeli ministry of tourism was working on a plan to allow Jews to enter the Al-Aqsa compound through the Cotton Merchants Gate, in addition to the Moroccan Gate which is already used as an entrance for non-Muslims.”

link to maannews.net

Israel is responsible for all of this. It is deliberate.

talknic
October 30, 2014, 6:41 pm

@ DoubleStandard

“You twit. I’m not afraid of litigation. From his perspective I’m saying he should take a financial settlement so he gets something”

Uh huh. An out of court settlement in his favour. Out of court settlements are usually made because the plaintiff is likely to win.

” I still feel bad he lost his health insurance and income, even if he is a world class anti semitic pseudo intellectual”

Evidence of your ” anti semitic pseudo intellectual” accusation …. Thx .. I’ll wait ……

“I cogently explained why he won’t win in litigation.”

Self delusion can be fun eh …. you can say anything no matter how non-sensical

just
October 30, 2014, 6:32 pm

It’s ‘sacred’, Annie.

Abierno
October 30, 2014, 6:32 pm

Annie – I can’t embed links from this computer, but you might want to look at the article in Electronic Intifada – by Albunimah, “Who Killed Yehuda Glick?” Just as there were major
questions about the kidnapping of the three rabinnical students, there seem to be major
questions about the accuracy of Knesset Member Feiglen’s comments as well as prior commentary that only an act of violence would set forth a situation wherein Palestinians could be banned from Al Aqsa and the temple rebuilt. Also, when I read comments from bystanders about the “terrorist” whose car spun out of control and hit bystanders at the light rail station, I was reminded of comments made by Richard Clark, security guru, about the strange accident of journalist Michael Hastings, that the computers in any late model car can be easily hacked and the steering system taken over remotely. Not surprisingly, all of the alleged perpetrators of these acts – the kidnappers, the driver whose car spun out of control and now the alleged drive by motorcyclist – were all immediately killed by IDF.
Perhaps more astute readers can help me with this, Palestinian terrorism does not appear to involve drive by shootings; however, Palestinians have accused Israeli forces of drive by
shootings and assassinations. Just wondering.

gracie fr
October 30, 2014, 6:28 pm

….with the restriction of ” Muslim men over 50″……..

Annie Robbins
October 30, 2014, 6:27 pm

any photos of a wounded and bloodied glick from the scene of the crime?

Annie Robbins
October 30, 2014, 6:15 pm

from the article

The case of Rachel Corrie

On March 16th 2003, Rachel Corrie was killed by an Israeli bulldozer, who had been protesting the demolition of Palestinian homes in the West Bank. According to several reports, the driver was unable to see her, leading to Corrie being caught beneath the bulldozer, killing her instantly.

……..

Unsurprisingly, the Israeli government went on a full PR campaign to dissolve its armed forces of any blame. The then Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon ordered a full investigation but no credible examination took place. Corrie’s own government remained mum on the incident and continued to remain disinterested.

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Much of this aid, as documented extensively, is for military purposes which also include dozens of bulldozers that are often held responsible for the flattening of homes, and that ultimately led to the tragic demise of Corrie.

…..

In August 2012, as an Israeli court declared no wrong doing in the Corrie’s death, describing the incident as an accident.

i’m surprised by the descriptions here, including the heading “The case of Rachel Corrie” because i’m not seeing any mention of what happened to her. the omission of any mention of what witnesses saw who were there with her, or what occurred, doesn’t present the case at all, only one side. if it was merely an omission under the assumption everyone already knows what happen to her so be it. but i didn’t expect to see this kind of omission.

corrie was murdered. ultimately, what led to her death was not the bulldozer, it was the will and the actions of the person driving it, the murderer. one would never hear someone say ‘ultimately the gun is responsible for the murder of this person’.

now, one could disagree with me she was murdered, but when stating the case for corrie, one should at least mention what happened, other than mention the several news reports that repeated the israeli military’s narrative.

other than that, thanks for your report Usaid (Muneeb) Siddiqu.

Vacy
October 30, 2014, 6:14 pm

A superb tribute and bouquet to Melissa Parke’s principled and lone stand on BDS . Many Australian politicians – Liberals, Labor, Greens and Independents were approached to speak to Svirsky’s BDS petition, and not one, apart from Parke, possessed the integrity to dare utter a word of support. Such is the Zionist stranglehold on Australian politics. I am reminded of the the maverick integrity of Haneen Zoabi.

ritzl
October 30, 2014, 6:13 pm

You have to wonder if having “former” racketeer Lieberman as Israeli FM is a feature instead of a bug.

adele
October 30, 2014, 6:12 pm

Witnesses to Moataz Hijazi’s execution attest that he wasn’t armed….and yet he was killed in cold blood. Wouldn’t Israel want him alive to question him on the attempted murder of Glick and to investigate further on who else was involved in this murder attempt? Too many coincidences, too little evidence and a lot of unanswered questions. Unfortunately, we’ll never know the truth.

Mooser
October 30, 2014, 6:10 pm

Yup, it’s always worse then you think.

Mooser
October 30, 2014, 6:09 pm

“In Naqab, where SS new factory is, Israel denies water to Palestinians there”

Thanks. As soon as I saw that “water made exciting”, I knew we were headed there. Denying rights to, or thieving from, the native population is a basic prerequisite for Zionist economic development.

Zionism or Israel, it’s always worse then you might think.

Kay24
October 30, 2014, 6:00 pm

Walid and McHughes, I think the US aid that keeps going over to Jordan, buys that silence and with it any hopes of disagreement by Jordan. Queen Rania who is married to the King of Jordan is Palestinian, and has been mute about this even when her people were being slaughtered in Gaza. US money and power prevails, and Israel gets away with murder.

Kay24
October 30, 2014, 5:54 pm

It is strange that Palestinian “suspects” for murders are killed instantly, with no chance for a fair trial, whereas Israeli criminals, like the brutal ones that killed that poor Kdheir kid are given lengthy trials that go nowhere.

Boomer
October 30, 2014, 5:52 pm

Malcolm told the truth. I guess about 99% of us are field negroes now.

David Gerald Fincham
October 30, 2014, 5:48 pm

Thanks Gamal, I will try and answer point by point, but perhaps I could first explain again what I am trying to achieve, because it seems I have not made myself clear.

The international community and the current Palestinian leadership has accepted the proposition that a future Palestinian state will consist of the West Bank and Gaza, 22% of historic Palestine. I start by pointing out that putting 9 million Palestinians currently living in the West Bank, Gaza and in refugee camps into 22% of Mandatory Palestine, leaving 8 million Israeli citizens with 78% cannot possibly lead to a just and lasting peace, or make Palestine a viable state. Of course I am concerned with justice.

I then go on to show that the Palestinian leadership and the international community have been misled into believing there is no alternative to accepting this injustice, because they do not know the legal distinction between the territory within Israel’s 1948 declared borders and the territory outside those borders which Israel stole in the 1948-49 war. I think the first thing that the Palestinians should do is to ask their friends in the GA to ask the ICJ to give an Advisory Opinion saying that the territory captured by Israel in 1948-49 was acquired by war, in violation of international law. Then everyone will know the truth, and Palestine will clearly have a right to territorial compensation. Of course I am concerned with legality.

Everything I say about human rights applies, of course, to everyone. For example, if, in a territorial adjustment, citizens of Israel (Jews or Arabs) were forced to choose between becoming subject to Palestinian rule, or leaving their homes to go to another part of Israel, that would be a violation of their rights. That is why I say that the delineation of borders should be done to avoid this situation as far as possible, and if some citizens are affected adversely they should have dual nationality so they always have the option of changing their mind later.

In the case of the Bedouin, I say that their territory should transfer to Palestinian sovereignty IF THEY WISH. In their case I think it is likely that they would, for the reasons you mention.

The only just solution for the refugees is that they go where they want to. Some will want to stay as citizens where they are, some will want to go back to current Israeli territory, if that is where they originated, and some would prefer to go to Palestine. I suspect that more would prefer the third option than the second. Anyway, it is most unlikely that Israel will ever agree to take a substantial number of refugees. So, returning to my starting point, Palestine will need more territory, and the Negev is the best choice, for three reasons: it has a low population density providing room for extra numbers: it could make the Palestinian state contiguous; and it would give a real choice to the Bedouin.

I do not understand why you think I am not addressing the core issues. I am addressing them in a realistic way. If by “addressing the core issues” you mean pushing Israel back inside the partition plan borders, then you are living in dreamland.

I cannot find where I talked about the Arab battle plan, but I think I said it was an initial plan. Jordan of course reneged on it immediately, and the war ended up with the Arab states just competing for territory.

I don’t understand why you are quoting stuff about British military history.

Boomer
October 30, 2014, 5:47 pm

By temporizing, by leaking and whining about Israel while continuing to support and enable its oppression of the Palestinians instead of openly confronting the issue, with an explanation to the American people to rally their support, obama has simply confirmed what we have long known: his own cowardly, amoral character.

MHughes976
October 30, 2014, 5:47 pm

‘The Quest for the Historical Israel’ (Finkelstein and Mazar, 2007) is pretty good and exposes the current differences of opinion within respectable Israeli academia. There’s a rather more ‘conservative’ view of the Temple in Galor and Bloedhorn ‘Archaeology of Jerusalem’ 2013. This book is praised for its ‘neutrality’ by an archaeologist from Birzeit.
We can’t deny that there was an ancient kingdom in Jerusalem, getting into trouble with the Assyrians around 700 BCE, or that that kingdom would, like all its counterparts, have had a temple or at least some kind of centre where the king would take part in sacrifice, though whether it would have had the magnificence described in the Books of Kings and important in royal (and later Christian) ideology is quite doubtful. Finkelstein is of the opinion, which others question, that the Jerusalem of those days was also the literary centre that produced the main substance of the prose and poetry on which the ‘Abrahamic’ religions are founded, which would have been enough to make it an important place.

gracie fr
October 30, 2014, 5:42 pm

So who are the Temple Mount Faithful and what do associated Rabbis believe…..????

Though the arrests may suggest otherwise, the Temple Mount Faithful movement has recently made a giant leap towards the mainstream. Just last year, their activists were firmly planted in the far-right messianic fringes of Orthodox Judaism and were shunned by most religious Jews. This has ceased to be the case [2012] was also the first time activists for repealing the ban on Jewish ritual on the Temple Mount have managed to translate their predominantly theological campaign into a concrete political program. MK Aryeh Eldad (National Union) has tabled a bill, and MK Ze’ev Elkin (Likud) made a public statement, both calling for changing the legal status of the Temple Mount for the first time since 1967, the year Israel occupied the Old City of Jerusalem and barred Jews from entering the compound, as well as allocating prayer times for Jews. One of the main impediments to changing the status quo at Temple Mount has been the stern halakhic ban on Jews visiting the site, for reasons of religious purity. But that prohibition has worn off in recent years, as more and more Zionist rabbis have permitted visits to the site, and even gone themselves.

“The messianic tension surrounding the Temple Mount could ferment Jerusalem and the whole region,” warns Dr. Gadi Gvaryahu, among the founders of the Tag Meir forum, which is acting against religious extremism. “The attempts by the ‘price tag’ people to mount to Temple Mount and pray there, together with acts of arson and vandalism of mosques, might end up in some fanatic group damaging the mosques on Temple Mount, in a similar manner to the Jewish underground that operated in the 1980s,” he said.

Yehuda Glick, spokesman for the Temple movements’ coalition, says his goal for[2013] is for “Jews to become part of the scenery at Temple Mount.” But the Rosh Hashanah cards the joint staff sent to their followers spell out a far more radical aspiration: “May this be a year of redemption… A year in which the disgrace is lifted from us, a year in which the Temple is rebuilt and the Kingdom of Judah takes back the reins.”

link to haaretz.com

talknic
October 30, 2014, 5:42 pm

GC IV is to protect ALL civilians, including those of the Occupying Power from the violent ramifications of occupying another people and their rightful territory.

The Israeli military should have arrested poor Rabbi Yehuda Glick long ago, taken him back to Israel and helped him find treatment for his illness

HarryLaw
October 30, 2014, 5:42 pm

Lieberman also said “Sweden ‘needs to understand that relations in the Middle East are more complicated than a piece of furniture from IKEA that you assemble at home.”
To which Swedish Foreign Minister Margot Wallstrom tweeted “I’ll happily send an IKEA flat pack for Avigdor Lieberman to assemble. He’ll discover you need a partner, cooperation and a good manual. link to twitter.com

Mooser
October 30, 2014, 5:34 pm

“Chickenshit and shooting of right wing settler next day”

Obama is a murderer! Benghazi!

Annie Robbins
October 30, 2014, 5:34 pm

thanks gracie, i found it really suspicious they executed him on the spot. there’s no evidence i know if he committed the crime. and like the person who ran into the settler baby, he too was gunned down and threatened execution style before he was killed and not allowed questioning in the hospital leaving no opportunity for his side of the story.

but this is even more suspicious. i don’t buy it frankly.

Mooser
October 30, 2014, 5:32 pm

Gosh, biorabbi, the possibility that Goldberg got it wrong, or more likely, is misreporting something? After all, “chickenshit” is a term which is easily and appropriately applicable to veritable host of things when discussing Israel, nobody disputes that?

And if this anonymous high official did describe Netanyahoo as, literally ‘a chickenshit’, what of it?
It certainly doesn’t please me, but coarse language, scatological descriptors, mother-oaths, taking the name of the very name of God in vain, vane and vein!

Walid
October 30, 2014, 5:29 pm

Most probably Israel had a change of heart about the mosque after President Abbas declared that the closing is a declaration of war. Must have spooked the hell out of the Israelis.

From Maan:

“Abbas: Closure of Aqsa ‘declaration of war’

RAMALLAH (AFP) — Israel’s closure of the flashpoint Al-Aqsa Mosque compound to all visitors following the shooting of a Jewish hardliner is tantamount to a “declaration of war,” President Mahmoud Abbas said Thursday.

“This dangerous Israeli escalation is a declaration of war on the Palestinian people and its sacred places and on the Arab and Islamic nation,” his spokesman Nabil Abu Rudeina quoted him as saying.

“We hold the Israeli government responsible for this dangerous escalation in Jerusalem that has reached its peak through the closure of the Al-Aqsa mosque this morning,” he added…”

MHughes976
October 30, 2014, 5:27 pm

There was a report recently that a bridge intended to facilitate non-Muslim entry to the area had been demolished on Netanyahu’s personal instruction following an explicit protest by the Jordanian royal family. I certainly don’t think that that would amount to real concern for the Palestinians, though!

Walid
October 30, 2014, 5:20 pm

Maan News now saying that the mosque has been re-opened, in time for the Friday prayers and in time to avert a planned missive protest march.

Dan Crowther
October 30, 2014, 5:20 pm

Weird how Slater’s views reinforce his privileged position, weird huh?

Denis
October 30, 2014, 5:16 pm

Bumblebye: I would have pointed out that Israel’s murder of Rachel ruled her out of the Nobel running.

Yes, that’s a better way to state it. Certainly. And for that reason Abu Mazen should be very careful should he ever be nominated.

I note I misspelled “Corrie’s”. With the new MW website, once you hit the “Post Comment” button, there’s no editing allowed. If your fingers are faster than your brain, beware. If they are both seriously sub-sonic, like mine, triple check.

Walid
October 30, 2014, 5:12 pm

“What are the Arab nations doing here? Nothing as usual? Should they be offended that a historical Mosque has been deliberately closed and that Muslims are prevented from praying there? ”

They care about the mosque as much as they care about Palestinians. While the Saudi monarchs are the guardians of the 2 holiest sanctuaries, it’s the Jordanian ones that are the guardians of the 3rd one, which is in Jerusalem, and you know where these stand in their relations with Israel and the treaty between them. Stop holding your breath.

Sycamores
October 30, 2014, 5:02 pm

seemingly Sodastream are trying to secure work/travel permits for Palestinians from the old plant to work in the new plant. considering that it could take up to 6 months to train new employees, especially the staff that specialized in the more complex areas within the plant it would make economical sense. but making sense isn’t one of Sodastream strongest points.

SodaStream employs hundreds of Palestinians and gives them equal benefits as Israeli workers. Most of them are from nearby West Bank towns. For Palestinian workers from Ramallah, the new facility will be 107 kilometers (66 miles) away. For those from Hebron, it will be 48 kilometers (29 miles) away.

“We are offering all employees the opportunity to join us in Lehavim, and specifically, we are working with the Israeli government to secure work permits for our Palestinian employees,” SodaStream CEO Daniel Birnbaum said.

link to ynetnews.com

seafoid
October 30, 2014, 5:01 pm

The Third Temple crowd with their red heifer breeding program are beyond the Zionist pale. Bibi is chickenshit over Iran but all the senior bots are ultra chickenshit over letting any of the Temple crowd implement their plans for a new Temple on the site of al aqsa.

It would be worse than Ayodhya in the early 90s.
link to youtube.com

And could even start WW3.

just
October 30, 2014, 4:57 pm

I’m still howling with pleasure over her response.

Tremendous & diplomatic. Steadfast.

No quarter given to his ridiculous histrionics.

Kay24
October 30, 2014, 4:49 pm

Lieberman should know that it is hard to put things together and make something perfect.
He has many missing parts and is so imperfect.

Walid
October 30, 2014, 4:49 pm

Christmas came very early for Netanyahu. 2 “terrorist” events in the space of a week. Stone throwers have become motorized and sophisticated with one allegedly ramming his car into people waiting at a tram stop and the other supposedly involved in a motorcycle drive-by shooting. Netanyahu must be very pleased at these opportunities. Sounds a lot like the story of the 3 murdered teens.

talknic
October 30, 2014, 4:48 pm

The day is from sundown til sundown, no matter what man made time it is!

Kay24
October 30, 2014, 4:48 pm

No problem Amigo. It happens to me too. :))

As just says, it is worth repeating.

ritzl
October 30, 2014, 4:46 pm

The Israelis aren’t even “tickling” the dragon’s tail anymore. They’re kicking it in the head.

link to urbandictionary.com

Mooser
October 30, 2014, 4:42 pm

Wait a minute, Biorabbi, I’m confused. Is there some reason why Annie shouldn’t have a “negative” attitude towards Netanyahu?

Maximus Decimus Meridius
October 30, 2014, 4:40 pm

Yes, I agree.

Deservedly or not, Malala is almost this decade’s Nelson Mandela. She’s a symbol of all that is good, and nobody would dare say a word against her. So now that donating to Gaza has received the Malala Yousefzai seal of approval, it will make it just that little bit harder to demonise Palestinians. But that won’t be for the lack of trying…

Shingo
October 30, 2014, 4:39 pm

Can’t Obama or his flunkies just be men and call out Bibi.

Can’t Bibbi or his flunkies just be men and face the music at the UN and ICC rather than hide behind the U.S. veto?

I’m sure Bibi’s shaking. Especially after the GOP cleans his clock.

Do you honesty think this will not come back to bite Bibi if he tries to rally the GOP against Obama?

Kay24
October 30, 2014, 4:37 pm

The arrogance of the occupier. I wonder if they will all be dancing if a synagogue was closed this way, and they were prevented from praying. Or will they, as they always do well, whine that the world is against them, and they are once again treated so badly by every one in the world.

What are the Arab nations doing here? Nothing as usual? Should they be offended that a historical Mosque has been deliberately closed and that Muslims are prevented from praying there? When it comes to Mosques and the rights of Muslims, the Israelis have shown nothing but disrespect. Mosques have been desecrated, vandalized, and hate messages painted on them, and the government of Israel does nothing, showing once again only their indifferent to anything non Jewish.
Is this the time that Israel has decided to provoke a situation, so that they can now mow the lawn on the other side? Israel prods the wasps nest, then howls when they are stung.

catporn
October 30, 2014, 4:36 pm

I think Netanyahu & Co are gagging for an escalation, they love it when Palestinians fight back, giving them an excuse for even more excessive violence and repression.

Mooser
October 30, 2014, 4:36 pm

“(You’re so cool)”

Me? I couldn’t lay an egg on a bet. And when I was younger I could never get laid. I’m pretty ordinary.
What was cool is that chickens were classed as “livestock” in my town, and forbidden for private homeowners (or indeed, renters) to keep. My wife became an activist and convinced the City Council to change the ordinance (with all kinds appropriate safeguards) and allow citizens of Bummertown, in Kidnap County, to keep chickens (up to four, no roosters, setback, suitable coop and hen-house, blah, blah, blah) if they so desire.
I guess the Council got tired of having their houses egged every week-end.

ritzl
October 30, 2014, 4:35 pm

Thanks American.

If Slater’s worst case pans out it would be a good thing, imho. We would get a party that likes to stick it to the little guy AND which uncritically supports Israel financially, to the detriment of the vast majority of US voters.

I would be refreshing to see both anti-voter positions all bundled so neatly together in the GOP. They are political cousins after all. Throw in war-as-first-principle-using-OPKs and we might just have the beginnings of a campaign-able/votable distinction between the parties in US politics.

Dems could then get on with it and start making their/a beneficial case directly to long-ignored voters without having to so blatantly/exclusively kowtow to money interests. That would be neat.

gracie fr
October 30, 2014, 4:35 pm

Tomorrow (Friday) will be telling…….

The Fatah movement in Jerusalem called for a day of rage against Israeli authorities on Friday following the killing of Mutaz Hijazi, in what many have compared to an extrajudicial assassination by Israeli security forces.

Shot on the rooftop of his family home, Hijazi was still alive when Israeli soldiers entered the premises. Eyewitnesses say that instead of arresting him, the soldiers dropped a water tank on his injured body, killing him, and later stole his body from a Red Crescent ambulance that tried to take him away.

The secretary-general of the Fatah movement in Jerusalem, Adnan Ghaith, told Ma’an that the killing Mutaz Hijazi without giving him a chance to defend himself and without definitive proof that he was responsible for the shooting, was an “act of terrorism” by Israel.

“Israeli crimes are systematically increasing to target Jerusalem through killing, detentions, assaults, demolishing houses, and preventing worshipers from praying inside the compounds of the Al-Aqsa mosque [ although Israeli authorities on Thursday evening decided to reopen Jerusalem's Al-Aqsa mosque compound after ordering its closure and following Arab and US calls for Muslim worshippers to be allowed in]..”

link to maannews.net

just
October 30, 2014, 4:35 pm

“Sweden’s Foreign Minister Margot Wallstrom responded to Lieberman’s IKEA comment. “I will be happy to send Israel FM Lieberman an IKEA flat pack to assemble. He’ll see it requires a partner, cooperation and a good manual,” she said.”

You go!

Sort of like PEACE.

just
October 30, 2014, 4:33 pm

I am interested, but it doesn’t play.

lysias
October 30, 2014, 4:32 pm

Perhaps in its reply, the Swedish government ought to mention Israel’s strange failure to prosecute Yehoshua Cohen, the man who was known to have assassinated Count Bernadotte (a member of the Swedish royal family) and in later years a close friend (and bodyguard) of Ben Gurion’s.

gracie fr
October 30, 2014, 4:28 pm

So Israeli papers, reporting the anonymous comments Wednesday morning, had to settle on something less evocative than “chickenshit.” The consensus translation that emerged among major news sources was “pachdan,” or coward. Haaretz did a little better, using “pachdan aluv,” or “lowly coward.”

As any poultry farmer can attest, none of these are chickenshit. “Coward” lacks the crude, sandlot insult quality that “chickenshit” conveys. “Coward” is what you’d call someone before a duel. “Chickenshit” is what you’d call someone before a bar fight.

To compensate, Israeli news articles put the word, in English, in their articles, such that “chickenshit” is clearly visible in the opening paragraph, running counter to the Hebrew text.

A friend of mine suggested that Israeli reporters could have avoided all this by translating the phrase to Hebrew literally: “Hara shel tarnegolim.” Of course, that’s also not quite Hebrew: “Hara” is a swear word in Arabic.

link to jta.org

lysias
October 30, 2014, 4:28 pm

Instructions for filing a complaint with the North Central Association (the accreditor for UIUC) are to be found at link to ncahlc.org .

adele
October 30, 2014, 4:28 pm

having trouble embedding the entire tweet.

This was FM Wallstrom’s response:

“I’ll happily send an IKEA flat pack for Avigdor Lieberman to assemble. He’ll discover you need a partner, cooperation and a good manual”

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gracie fr
October 30, 2014, 4:25 pm

“The Swedish government needs to understand that relations in the Middle East are more complicated than a piece of furniture from IKEA that you assemble at home, and should act with responsibility and sensitivity,” Lieberman added.

Sweden’s Foreign Minister Margot Wallstrom responded to Lieberman’s IKEA comment. “I will be happy to send Israel FM Lieberman an IKEA flat pack to assemble. He’ll see it requires a partner, cooperation and a good manual,” she said.

link to haaretz.com

Mooser
October 30, 2014, 4:24 pm

“As anyone with any understanding of the realities knows, such steps are the only way to end Israeli intransigence,”

And it may not even take all of those things, only some of them, or, indeed, just some credible intentions perceived that the US may do them. So let’s give one or two a try for a start.

ritzl
October 30, 2014, 4:23 pm

Given what happened at the 2012 Dem convention, this flap may actually energize the Democratic base rather than suppress turnout.

adele
October 30, 2014, 4:23 pm

Sweden FM Wallstrom’s brilliant response to the bouncer:

Sweden responds after Israel’s anger over recognition of Palestinian state. #TheWorldRightNow starts in 30 minutes. pic.twitter.com/Ab0ul01tde— Hala Gorani (@HalaGorani) October 30, 2014

just
October 30, 2014, 4:23 pm

I always wanted to raise chickens for eggsactly the same reasons.

(You’re so cool)

Mooser
October 30, 2014, 4:21 pm

“allegedly calling netanyahu a chickenshit.”

“Annie, you clearly think negatively of Netanyahu.”

I’m afraid he’s right, Annie. If you didn’t “think negatively” of Netanyahoo, you would never, ever doubt that anybody called him “chickenshit”!

just
October 30, 2014, 4:16 pm

He called back the ambassador…

Israel is nothing but insulting.

Mooser
October 30, 2014, 4:14 pm

“It’s worth noting that by calling Netanyahu ‘chickenshit’, the State Department is criticizing Israel for not being aggressive enough toward Iran.”

“The good thing about Netanyahu is that he’s scared to launch wars,” the official said,”

Walid
October 30, 2014, 4:12 pm

“… why the deafening silence from world ‘leaders’? ”

They are still in shock at Sweden’s formal recognition this afternoon of the Palestinian State.

Reaction coming only from Israel where the brilliant Lieberman threw an IKEA-oriented insult at Sweden for having done so.

bilal a
October 30, 2014, 4:11 pm

G_d is laughing

“Professor Finkelstein, who is known as “the father of biblical archaeology”, told the Jerusalem Post that Jewish archaeologists have found no historical or archaeological evidence to back the biblical narrative on the Exodus, the Jews’ wandering in Sinai or Joshua’s conquest of Canaan. On the alleged Temple of Solomon, Finkelstein said that there is no archaeological evidence to prove it ”

link to middleeastmonitor.com

HarryLaw
October 30, 2014, 4:10 pm

The Israeli Foreign Ministry announced on Thursday that it has recalled the regime’s ambassador to Stockholm for consultations with regard to the Scandinavian country’s decision to recognize the state of Palestine.
Meanwhile, the Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman lashed out at Sweden for what he called the “miserable decision that strengthens the extremist elements and Palestinian rejectionism.”http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/10/30/384198/israel-recalls-ambassador-to-sweden/

Mooser
October 30, 2014, 4:10 pm

That is precisely the reason I avoid coarse language, using it only under the most egregious of provocations.

piotr
October 30, 2014, 4:09 pm

ADL should count their blessing. Anti-rich prejudice is most rampant in USA:

“Seventy-seven percent of Americans say that too much power rests in the hands of large corporations and a few wealthy people, according to a poll released Thursday from the Pew Research Center.”

This is the minority that is most threatened in USA, even though, so far, it enjoys as much freedom as anywhere else, but that only because of indefatigable efforts to stamp out anti-rich sentiments.

Mooser
October 30, 2014, 4:06 pm

“could very well be, Mooser!”

I know from chickens. Use to raise them (for eggs and companionship).

Annie Robbins
October 30, 2014, 4:05 pm

yes, that is exactly the plan. to use the corralled bedouins forced off their land as the cheap labor force. the land this industrial park is built on was confiscated from bedouins, many of them still holding title. this is in the heart of the area being protested over the prawer plan. link to mondoweiss.net

The demonstration organized in the Naqab itself took place in the South Rahat Junction “Lehavim”. The start of the protest, which was scheduled for 4pm, was delayed, after police blocked several roads leading to the demonstration and alternative routes had to be found. In the end over 1500 people from all over historic Palestine and international activists managed to assemble and voice their anger against the ethnic cleansing and forced displacement of over 35 villages in the Naqab region.

even link to timesofisrael.com report concedes:

Amar al-Huzeil, the deputy mayor of Rahat, told me …that even here, as everywhere in the northern Negev, “maybe 40 percent” of the land on which the project is to be built is claimed by other individual Bedouin, not party to the development.I thought of Moshe Dayan and his brash 1963 proclamation that, within two generations, the Bedouin would not “live on his land with his herds, but would become an urban person who comes home in the afternoon and puts his slippers on.”

DoubleStandard
October 30, 2014, 4:05 pm

I am glad you enjoy it. Not such arrogance though given that I am on the prevailing side :P

Mooser
October 30, 2014, 4:02 pm

“wait… you think “chickenshit” is anti-Semitic?”

It can’t be! I know from chickens, and if you want the soup and the scmaltz, the shit comes with.

adele
October 30, 2014, 4:02 pm

He was in such shock at the carnage* that he temporarily lost his power of speech.

*Rivlin is reported to be a vegetarian.

Mooser
October 30, 2014, 3:59 pm

“But to suggest that it is something other than anti-Semitism is a grave mistake. Even in America, where Jews are more at home and secure as equal citizens than anywhere else in 2,000 years, the unsettling fact is that fully one-third of Americans still accept the notion that Jews have “dual loyalties.” This was apparent in the Anti-Defamation League’s June 2002 survey of Anti-Semitism in America, which also found that 20 percent of the American public agrees that, “Jews have too much power in the U.S. today.”

And we can see the devastating effect of these invidious ideas on the Jewish community in America, living in isolated communities, and afraid or prevented from attaining any economic assets, social status or security.

Annie Robbins
October 30, 2014, 3:56 pm

Strip search: an inevitable result of the security threats Israel is facing. Nothing discriminatory about it.

claiming something is “inevitable” doesn’t disqualify it from being discriminatory. of course it’s discriminatory when palestinians are targeted, and they are, even when they are israeli. this has been covered here repeatedly.

and that’s just one thing wrong with your ‘logic’, or lack thereof.

adele
October 30, 2014, 3:54 pm

I”ve never understood why people fawn over Peres. When did he suddenly become a harmless old man who likes to put children on his knees? Did I miss something?

Walid
October 30, 2014, 3:54 pm

Here, it’s 47 years since the mosque was last closed to worshippers.

This afternoon, CNN said it was 14 years since it was last closed after Sharon’s promenade there that kicked-off the Second Intifada.

Later this afternoon, an Abbas official said it was the first time the mosque has been closed since the Crusades.

Which is it?

Brewer
October 30, 2014, 3:54 pm

From Avnery:

Last Tuesday, reading Haaretz, I noticed that a whole page – page 4 – consisted of news concerning Jewish-Arab relations.

Item 1: Tens of Jewish settlers invaded the Arab neighborhood of Silwan, next to the Temple Mount, in the middle of the night. Silwan, the biblical Shiloah, is an Arab village that was joined to Jerusalem when East Jerusalem was annexed by Israel after the Six-day War. For years now an association of settlers called Elad has been trying to Judaize this neighborhood by secretly buying properties from poor Arabs, using Arab traitors as straw-men. Now the association has decided to fill these houses, arriving like thieves in the night.

(The president of Elad is Elie Wiesel, the Holocaust writer and Nobel Peace Prize laureate.

link to zope.gush-shalom.org

just
October 30, 2014, 3:42 pm

just to clarify to folks, the top picture is different now…the former one that brought me to tears was of a deserted compound…

THIS top photo enrages me.

W.Jones
October 30, 2014, 3:41 pm

“They danced to a medley of the C & C Music Factory – Everybody Dance Now”

Is that a reference to some Muslim ban on modern dance?

a blah chick
October 30, 2014, 3:37 pm

Concerning the “Isis Flag” someone on Twitter said

“Mohamed Hamdouni ‏@HamdouniMohamed 23h23 hours ago
.@LTCPeterLerner @IsraelinUN how come a place forbidden to Palestinians can have someone supposed to be 1 of them posing in front of camera?

Good point.

Also the only people I have seen waving Black Flags were those cretins demonstrating against the African refugees. Then there is this:

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Settlers held a demonstration demanding access to Haram al-Sharif. They danced to a medley of the C & C Music Factory – Everybody Dance Now

Another crime against humanity.

catporn
October 30, 2014, 3:31 pm

Not sure she ever cared about bridges, whatever there purpose, though she might be miffed about the scissors that were used to cut her ties with Oxfam, and whoever advised her to do so.
Annie made a great point last month about Johansson doing more to promote BDS than SodaScream.

lysias
October 30, 2014, 3:31 pm

Yeah, the Democrats might suffer serious losses in the imminent election, but that’s short-term. In the long term, as Israel is more and more discredited, it will be those who have supported its crimes who will suffer politically.

benedict
October 30, 2014, 3:29 pm

As an Israeli I can tell you that the article is full of lies and distortions. I will point out some.
Strip search: an inevitable result of the security threats Israel is facing. Nothing discriminatory about it.
Citizenship : Rula states that she and her daughter have dual American-israeki citizenship. Then claims an official refused to renew here daughters citizenship since she is not Jewish. There is no such thing.
“Death to arabs”: an unfortunate slure of some extremist. Rejected by mainstream Israeli society. Unfortunately similar hate slogans can be found against Jews to.

just
October 30, 2014, 3:28 pm

That’s why I think that Netanyahu’s comment is deliberately inflammatory:

“our supreme interests, first and foremost security and the unity of Jerusalem, are not the top priority of those same anonymous sources that attack us and me personally.”

link to mondoweiss.net

and, from the Guardian:

“Addressing a security meeting Israeli prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu appeared to call for calm. “First of all, the flames must be lowered,” Netanyahu said. “No one on either side should take the law into his own hands. We need to act now with cool heads, responsibility and determination, and that is what we shall do.””

link to theguardian.com

Note the use of the word “appeared”…

lysias
October 30, 2014, 3:27 pm

What’s even funnier is observing somebody with an arrogance as overweening as yours.

Marnie
October 30, 2014, 3:24 pm

“Water made Exciting!” In the desert? Stolen water? Nearby new reservations/townships for the “natives”?

Who is going to work there or do they plan on using the relocated Bedouins as their slave labor?