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Mooser
February 28, 2015, 6:52 pm

“If Mooser doesn’t get told at least once a week to get hit by a bus, he begins to misbehave.”

And who is going to tell me, you? You’re quite the macher!
But Yonah, if you want to call for my death, go right ahead, I can’t stop you. I know how you feel about the surplus Jewish population.

Oh, I see why you are so pissed off, Yonah. I made a smart crack about Madonna, down-thread, and you’re fighting for the lady’s honor…

Mooser
February 28, 2015, 6:47 pm

“or that Iran funded Amal/hizbollah to murder 241 US marines in Beirut…oh right, Americans do remember that.”

Yes, we do. Ronald Reagen was President at the time.

Mooser
February 28, 2015, 6:39 pm

“It,s not much compared to the litany of murderous crimes they have perpetrated against the Palestinians.”

Some of which they may ultimately get away with, too. In some fashion or another, although there’s no way Zionism, or for that matter Judaism, as it is, will come out of it smelling sweet or with clean hands. The former of those entities thinks they can afford that, but I don’t think the latter can.

Mooser
February 28, 2015, 6:33 pm

“Never thought I’d live to see the day.”

Yup, never thought I’d live to see even this much push-back to Zionism.

Mooser
February 28, 2015, 6:30 pm

” Do you stay toxic?”

Certainly no more than if you had been rendered unclean by consumption of trefe or other transgressions from the Covenants. With the right prayers, the right ritual, I’m sure it can be atoned for, and a purification effected.

Mooser
February 28, 2015, 6:20 pm

Hophmi, I hear Open Hillel has been trying to get you to speak as a representative of one, if not both, of the Muslim-outreach organizations on whose boards you sit. Do get in touch.

In the meantime, “Jewish Civil Rights Veterans Barred from Speaking at MIT, UMass Amherst Hillels” it looks like the answer, straight from the mouth of Hillel, came back showing which line they will take. Looks like they’ll be going to Hillel in a handbasket soon.

David Gerald Fincham
February 28, 2015, 5:44 pm

“I repeat what I feel is necessary for new readers” fair enough

“The Conciliation Commission turned down Israel’s 31st Aug 1949 claim to those territories.”

The Conciliation Commission and the British Government reminded Israel that the Armistice Lines had not been agreed as a territorial border. They did not say that Israel had illegally acquired territory outside its borders or that it must return to those borders.

The Commission invited both sides to make territorial proposals based on the Partition Lines. Israel’s opening proposal was everything inside the Armistice Line; the Arabs said they wanted all the territory allocated to the Arab State in the PP, plus the Negev, plus Eastern Galilee. There was no chance of agreement, and everyone went home. But the principle was established: the final borders between Israel and its neighbors are to be obtained by negotiation.

Our opinion remains an opinion. No court or authoritative body has ever determined that in 1948-49 Israel illegally acquired by war territory outside its borders.

Your opinion that Israel could be forced back to the partition line by legal action also remains an opinion, which as far as I can ascertain is shared only by a few followers on Mondoweiss.

“They had the legal right on notifying the UNSC of their intentions, to attempt to expel Israeli forces from all non-Israeli territory.” But that is not the intention that they notified. They rejected the idea of Partition. They did not mention Israel. They did not mention expelling any forces. They did not recognize the existence of Israel. They said that on expiry of the Mandate, Mandatory Palestine had become an independent state, and the Zionists were a rebellious minority. They were entering Palestine to restore law and order. That would inevitably mean putting down the rebellion.

Bornajoo
February 28, 2015, 5:42 pm

“annie, I mean to just say to you thank you for posting this compilation of Martin Luther King Jr.’s
precious words. If anything these are a lifestyle to adopt if nothing else… no fairies in the sky, no fighting over whose god is the lesser god. And this world would really be so much more respectable and dignified !”

Amen to that Bintbiba

bintbiba
February 28, 2015, 5:34 pm

Sorry i made a big mistake here…didn’t know what I was doing .

annie, I mean to just say to you thank you for posting this compilation of Martin Luther King Jr.’s
precious words. If anything these are a lifestyle to adopt if nothing else… no fairies in the sky, no fighting over whose god is the lesser god. And this world would really be so much more respectable and dignified !

MHughes976
February 28, 2015, 5:29 pm

However, I think that in one way recent events have been very good for the Zionist project, in that the Islamic State crowd seem able to draw on a strong vein of anti-Iranian sentiment in western Iraq. This is a serious setback for Iranian plans to create and lead an anti-Israel front and gives IS and Israel certain common interests.

bintbiba
February 28, 2015, 5:22 pm

i don’t hate hops, anyone or anything. i couldn’t do what i do if i hated. i believe hate eats away at the host, so it’s really not my thing. i’ve discussed this a few times on MW
link to mondoweiss.net

Hatred paralyzes life; love releases it. Hatred confuses life; love harmonizes it. Hatred darkens life; love illuminates it.
Martin Luther King Jr.

Let no man pull you low enough to hate him.
Martin Luther King Jr.

Like an unchecked cancer, hate corrodes the personality and eats away its vital unity. Hate destroys a man’s sense of values and his objectivity. It causes him to describe the beautiful as ugly and the ugly as beautiful, and to confuse the true with the false and the false with the true.
Martin Luther King Jr.

Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars… Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that.
Martin Luther King Jr.

Nonviolence is the answer to the crucial political and moral questions of our time; the need for mankind to overcome oppression and violence without resorting to oppression and violence. Mankind must evolve for all human conflict a method which rejects revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method is love.
Martin Luther King Jr.

something told me if i googled martin luther king and ‘hate’ it might bring clarity. shall i try gandhi anyone?

and more recently: link to mondoweiss.net

nice try tho, but your ‘hate’ lingo bounces right off me, definitely not my bag.

and the last link in that blockquote leads here:

c&d, american, i can accept that you hate israel because i refuse to live in denial, but it is not acceptable to me that you hate. it’s bad for your mental health. you will be a stronger warrior for peace if you can rid your heart of hate. i believe that.

good luck.

this is not a new position of mine, it is part of my philosophy of life and it’s been with me my whole life it was the way i was raised and the way i raised my child.

i think you’re spamming the thread.you entered the thread and stated myself and others had “hate for Jews and Israel”. take it somewhere else. good bye.

– See more at: link to mondoweiss.net

Pixel
February 28, 2015, 5:21 pm

Annie, this is a great share.

AJ+ is like Newsy — concise, easy-to-digest video newslettes – a winning format for the young.

I think Mondoweiss should create it’s own version.

I mean, seriously, who has time to read blogs, anymore?

Well, except perezhilton.com

seafoid
February 28, 2015, 5:13 pm

It looks as though it may be a developing into a nice momentum if you include everything in the universities, on social media, regarding Protective Edge, even MJR’s Damascus conversion

They have very little popular support in the US. They are a court operation , they need darkness to thrive and now they are exposed in the open. So many enemies. Money can’t buy everything . And they are so hubristic.

Lots of chickens awaiting roosting instructions.

Pixel
February 28, 2015, 4:54 pm

I think it’s a game changer.

Not long ago, people smoked openly and had to sneak into back alleys to look at porn.

Now, porn is everywhere and you have to sneak into back alleys to smoke.

—-
Never say never.

David Doppler
February 28, 2015, 4:27 pm

Neocon stands for Neoconniver.

Pixel
February 28, 2015, 4:23 pm

If I were Hilary, my late-night snack on Monday would be a jumbo bag of jalapeno Sliders washed down with a bottle or two of Fletcher’s root beer-flavored laxative.

seafoid
February 28, 2015, 4:16 pm

Annie is right to say that Israel is a racist society that feeds off violence.
I’ll go further and say

-it’s a deeply dysfunctional society run on the principle that might is right.

-Zionism is untreated trauma.
-Israeli Jews are ignorant loudmouths in the main.
-And aliyah is the wrong word.

Rusty Pipes
February 28, 2015, 4:05 pm

What news might Obama make? Following up on the (under-reported) declassification of the 1987 report about Israel’s nukes, he might grant Mordechai Vanunu political assylum, support Iran’s call for a nuclear-free Middle East and hold up Israel’s loan guarantees and weapons deliveries until it signs the NPT. He also might call for investigation and prosecution of a former citizen who is implicated in stealing American technology (like a nuclear trigger) for the manufacture of nuclear weapons.

Annie Robbins
February 28, 2015, 4:04 pm

solving many of the intractable problems plauging US urban centers of poverty or in Africa

doesn’t carter do this sort of thing?

Giles
February 28, 2015, 3:55 pm

Exactly. When the Dems took the White House in 2009, along with 60 plus senators and a super majority in the House, they could have actually accomplished some progressive things. But they, along with the MSM, pretended 30 GOP senators were able to stop them from doing anything.

Now in 2015, with the House and Senate in GOP hands so that the Dems actually cannot get anything done, Obama et al are making all these really progressive statements (when not going after whistle blowers, and not prosecuting torturers and those who lied us into war, not arresting the intelligence heads who lied to Congress about spying on citizens, expanding the surveillance state, pledging loyalty to Israel etc.) knowing full well none of these things can get accomplished.

seafoid
February 28, 2015, 3:55 pm

David Bromwich in the NY Review on that 29 ovation Milikovsky speech in 2011

link to nybooks.com

“Only a fraction of Obama’s May 19 speech was allotted to Israel and the creation of a Palestinian state. Yet the concrete language of that part—which contained names and dates, if not numbers—drew immediate and heated comment. The most controversial sentence was doubtless this: “The dream of a Jewish and democratic state cannot be fulfilled with permanent occupation.” It was a plain statement of an obvious truth. Obama, in addition, said that the shape of a Palestinian state would be based on the 1967 borders of Israel, only altered in accordance with “mutually agreed [land] swaps.”
This had been the common understanding and phraseology of American-Israeli-Palestinian discussions over two decades; but in the past several years, the word “1967” was used less than before; and this became the detail Benjamin Netanyahu seized upon. Immediately after the speech, he issued a statement in Jerusalem that the 1967 borders of Israel were “indefensible.” He repeated the same objection after he met with Obama in the White House. The differences between the two leaders were played out once more in their speeches to the annual AIPAC convention.
Without backing down, Obama explained the meaning of his reference to 1967: the borders of course would not stay the same, but land swaps would offset the differences. This candor, on the occasions when Obama shows it, is an impressive quality, and it seemed to be appreciated even by the AIPAC audience. Besides, on May 19 he conceded most of what Netanyahu could have asked. He alluded to Gaza only once. He offered no criticism of new Israeli settlements, as he had done in Cairo two years ago, and made no mention of the dispossession of Palestinians on the West Bank.
From his silence on these points, it was clear that after the failure of the most recent shuttle diplomacy and the resignation of George Mitchell on May 13, Obama personally planned to initiate no further negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians. He trusted that under the visible pressure of an Arab Spring of their own, now gathering on both sides of Israel’s borders, most Israelis would eventually see his words as a kindly prophecy.
Netanyahu struck back as if Obama had mounted a deliberate assault with a threat of lasting enmity. Yet Netanyahu’s speech to AIPAC was emollient compared to his speech to Congress on May 24. There he made a conquest that can have few precedents. He began with brash familiarity, in a backslapping salute to Joe Biden; spoke with boyish humor about his early years as a diplomat within the Beltway, and his knowledge of an America beyond it; reestablished, with passion and simplicity, the close ties between America and Israel that Obama had sought to view with an impartial loyalty; in short, pulled out all the stops to undercut President Obama on his native ground. The speech itself was a tissue of clichés, anecdotes, and half-truths, but delivered with dramatic buoyancy and urgency as if his life depended on it.

Congress gave Netanyahu twenty-nine standing ovations. How did he do it? By presenting himself to his audience as an all-but-American politician—one less lucky than they, and more brave, a leader with a fight on his hands; a real fight, in his own backyard and not six thousand miles away. He spoke with gusto of his part in an earlier episode of that never-ending war:

I was nearly killed in a firefight inside the Suez Canal—I mean that literally: inside the Suez Canal. I was going down to the bottom, with a forty-pound pack, ammunition pack on my back, and somebody reached out to grab me and they’re still looking for the guy who did such a stupid thing.

Netanyahu did not speak of the subsidized increase of Israeli settlements that accounts for the “certain facts on the ground” he had mentioned at the White House. He invoked the biblical names of Judea and Samaria as if they were as natural to modern Israel as St. Louis is to the state of Missouri. And Congress loved him, or seemed to think it should, from the very moment when he said in a flattering exordium: “Congratulations America. Congratulations, Mr. President. You got bin Laden. Good riddance!” The performance combined the maximum of demagogy with the maximum of smarm, and it mixed aggression, paternalism, and a preening collective self-love, in proportions that Netanyahu assumed Americans would be comforted by. Israel, this speech said, has everything in common with America. We are the home of freedom and wisdom among the ancients, just as you Americans are among the moderns.

Netanyahu’s speech to Congress was also part of a larger strategy of his right-wing coalition. He got his invitation to address Congress from Eric Cantor, the House majority leader, and the Republican Party is now working to detach Jewish donors from the Democrats and to convert Republicans at large to the Likud and neoconservative politics that support a greater Israel. In the pitch offered to Americans, taking sections of the West Bank from Palestinians is as warranted as the taking of lands from American Indians. Mike Huckabee has indicated his sympathy with this point of view. Sarah Palin wore a Star of David on her necklace in her recent liberty tour. Glenn Beck has planned a mass event, “Restoring Courage,” on August 24 at the Southern Wall excavations in the city of Jerusalem. Americans of the chauvinist and evangelical right are being invited to think of Israel as a second homeland.
Considered as a response to this predicament, Obama’s speech at the State Department, with its broad-gauge pronouncements and its candor regarding Palestine, was utterly overmatched by Netanyahu’s speech to Congress. It is an unhappy fact of politics that victory goes to the pressure that will not let up. Netanyahu’s belief in his immoderate purpose is stronger than Obama’s belief in his moderate purpose.”

Milikovsky is a wild motherfucker and deserves whatever the Dems may have in store for him.

the bigger picture is what’s brewing on the US economy

Bromwich again

link to nybooks.com

“Capitalist utopianism and unqualified loathing for all that remains of the welfare state are the dispositions that now unite the Republican Party from the bottom up. George Orwell wrote in The Road to Wigan Pier that while it might be too much to hope for economic equality, he liked the idea of a world where the richest man was only ten times richer than the poorest. Bertrand Russell in Freedom versus Organization wrote that since money is a form of power, a high degree of economic inequality is not compatible with political democracy. Those statements did not seem radical seventy years ago. Today no national politician would dare assent to either.”

If the Fed can’t get inflation back to 2% the GOP is going to be eviscerated.

pabelmont
February 28, 2015, 3:51 pm

Thanks, Mooser. Since Israel never says anything without saying “security”, I’d insist that there is a difference between what Israel wants (“security” cream puffs for breakfast, perhaps, or an OK to assassinate people all over the earth on claims of “security”) and what Israel actually needs in order to avoid being damaged by an attack in a serious way.

Of course, given Israel’s refusal to end the occupation or, failing that, to end the settlement program in every aspect, if it were up to me I’d formally end the USA’s promises of security help (much less guarantees) to Israel.

Bandolero
February 28, 2015, 3:51 pm

Mayhem

The problem is that the Saudis don’t grow a nice lawn where there is sometimes a bit ugly weed, but they grew the whole lawn of weed only.

The ISIS terrorist ideology of Wahhabism was not only born in Saudi Arabia, but it is still the proud official ideology of the Saudi state. And that is why the Saudi state behaviour looks so similar to IS “state” behaviour. The top Saudi cleric two years ago demanded in a fatwa to destroy all churches (and other non-wahhabi religious sites) in the Arab world and ISIS does it. Of course, there are today no churches anymore destroyed in Saudi Arabia, because the Wahhabis did already destroy them all a century ago. Saudi state clerics day, women are inferiour properties to men and must be veiled, and IS does it as well. The Saudi regime loves whipping people for their unpleasant opinion about the ruler and beheading people for crimes like “sorcery” and IS does it as well. And so on, and so on. Read the references in the article I linked above. For example:

Karen Armstrong: Wahhabism to ISIS: how Saudi Arabia exported the main source of global terrorism

That the Saudis grow their weedy takfiri Wahhabi terrorist ideology for have it dominate Saudi Arabia, wouldn’t have to disturb the world much except for humanitarian reasons, but the problem is that the Saudi pay a lot of money to export the weed and poison other countries with this. See what Reza Aslan says, also linked in the article above:

“And as we all know, Saudi Arabia has spent over $100 billion in the past 20 or 30 years spreading this ideology throughout the world.”

And, yes, the Saudis also nurtured and financed ISIS, though they today maybe see it as a mistake. See The Atlantic: ‘Thank God for the Saudis': ISIS, Iraq, and the Lessons of Blowback.

Of course, after the declaration of the caliphate by IS the Saudis were shocked, because the declaration of the caliphate means that Caliph Ibrahim is legitimate and the Saudi king is illegitimate in the view of IS. There can only be one ruler in the Wahhabi doctrine. But the Saudis and IS don’t have many ideological differences, they just differ about the question who should rule.

Also from that article above you can see that the principal backer of the Saudi support for the terrorists is the top JINSA-crowned US Israel lobbyist John McCain. And Israeli officials are on the record saying Israel’s policy is to prefer takfiri terrorists ruling Syria instead of an Iranian-backed government. It’s not hard to do the math, that the Saudis and Israel work together supporting ISIS and other Al Qaeda terrorists to weaken Iran.

seafoid
February 28, 2015, 3:45 pm

It’s great to see the ZOA turning on the odious Abe Foxman in public for being too soft on Iran .
All this dirty laundry airing and infighting from the bastards who have destroyed so many careers- where is the discipline? Where is the self control ?

link to youtube.com

Netanyahu is such a creature of the night as well.

Pixel
February 28, 2015, 3:41 pm

neocon-in-rehab

love it!

HarryLaw
February 28, 2015, 3:37 pm

There have been three game simulations of war with Iran, the US has been defeated in all three. In one such encounter the US blue forces took on the Iranian red forces led by tough US marine Lt General Van Ripen [the millennium challenge 2002]. The US fleet was sunk by Van Ripen who used unconventional warfare, hundreds of small craft attacked the US fleet which succumbed to the sheer weight of numbers link to cimsec.org As Jack Straw former UK Foreign Secretary said not so long ago, an attack on Iran “would be nuts”.

Bornajoo
February 28, 2015, 3:34 pm

Wonderful response Annie. It should be completely obvious to absolutely anyone and everyone who reads what you write that you don’t hate anyone at all and you couldn’t even if you tried.

This tactic of not confronting the reality of one’s actions but instead deluding oneself that the only reason one is criticised must be because of some irrational hatred, is becoming pathetically boring.

So it’s okay to bomb, slaughter, murder and be racist and the only reason someone criticises must be because of some irrational hatred towards that group committing the crime but nothing at all to do with the actual crimes being committed?

Stop the awful crimes and the criticism will stop too.

“sick cultist “? That’s a new one but probably more accurately describes ultra zionists than me.

talknic
February 28, 2015, 3:31 pm

@ David Gerald Fincham

” There is no authority higher than that of the sovereign state which can determine where its borders are. “

Israel already did. Recognized before it was admitted to the UN. Israel didn’t make an official claim on any territories until after it had signed the Armistice Agreements and after it joined the UN. The claim was denied citing the Armistice Agreements

” except that the extent of Israel’s territory is undefined until there is an agreement”

If that be true, Israel is not a state! “ARTICLE 1 The state as a person of international law should possess the following qualifications: a ) a permanent population; b ) a defined territory

The only thing Israel has protecting it is the US UNSC veto vote.

W.Jones
February 28, 2015, 3:21 pm

“He has to address the rift. How in the hell can he address this rift with out looking like a back stabber and warmonger that he is?”
Why can’t he just say anything he wants to? Feinstein and Durbin are coming apparently, even after he snubbed them.

Maybe he will look bad you think. OK, look bad to whom? To Jennifer Rubin and the Mideast desk at the NY Times? To Feinstein? And what is she going to do? To 90% of democratic activists and delegates? Maybe you are one of the 90% or more of Americans who didn’t notice this:

JWalters
February 28, 2015, 3:16 pm

Excellent points. I’m grateful to Obama for standing up to this massive injustice, necessarily in careful tactical steps. As you say, it’s setting a new reference frame for discussion of the entire topic.

talknic
February 28, 2015, 3:14 pm

@ David Gerald Fincham “There is no need to repeat all this stuff”

I repeat what I feel is necessary for new readers who might drop in halfway through a thread, especially Hasbarristers who might otherwise think they have a valid argument.

“It is your and my opinion that in the 1948-49 war the State of Israel conquered Palestinian territory outside its own declared sovereign borders and incorporated it into the State, in violation of international law. I say ‘opinion’ because, as far as I can ascertain, this has never been legally established in any court case or Opinion or UN resolution”

None of this is my opinion
A) The Conciliation Commission turned down Israel’s 31st Aug 1949 claim to those territories, by which time Israel was a UN Member link to wp.me

B) The British (27 April 1950) reiterated the Conciliation Commission’s rebuttal, refusing to recognize those territories as Israeli, by which time Israel was a UN Member state

“His Majesty’s Government are unable to recognise the sovereignty of Israel over that part of Jerusalem which she occupies, though, pending a final determination of the status of the area, they recognise that Israel exercises de facto authority in it. Secondly, that His Majesty’s Government cannot regard the present boundaries between Israel, and Egypt, Jordan, Syria and the Lebanon as constituting the definitive frontiers of Israel, as these boundaries were laid down in the Armistice Agreements concluded severally between Israel and each of these States, and are subject to any modifications which may be agreed upon under the terms of those Agreements, or of any final settlements which may replace them.” link to hansard.millbanksystems.com

Thus far nothing has replaced them.

C) There are no foreign embassies in Jerusalem, which was declared occupied by Israeli Government Proclamation 12 Aug 1948 link to mfa.gov.il Not even the US embassy!

As explained before there cannot be a UN/UNSC resolution against a state for acts committed before it became a UN Member, nor can the UN /UNSC adopt a resolution retrospectively for acts committed before UN Membership. If Israel now as a UN Member tries to annex unilaterally the UNSC must condemn the action as illegal. Israel and the US now demand a negotiated settlement, because Israel will HAVE to eventually legally annex any non-Israeli territories in order to legally acquire them. The Jewish state cannot afford the astronomical cost of now adhering to the law, it must plea bargain to circumvent the law

“Most historians, international lawyers, and the Palestinian leadership believe one or both of the following: (a) Israel has never defined its borders, and so was recognized as a State without borders, and therefore it is impossible to say that in the 1948-49 war it captured territory outside its borders;”

Sheeeesh They’re not very good historians or international lawyers! I’m neither a historian or lawyer, I’ve found plenty of irrefutable evidence from the Israeli Government itself! I cannot however find anything whereby Israel legally acquired those territories. Nor has anyone ever been able to show me where or when or by which agreement with who. Nil. Nada. No thing!

” (b) UN security resolution 242 specified the 1949 Green Line (or negotiations around that line) as Israel’s permanent border, therefore legitimizing Israel’s territorial land theft in 1948-49. “

UN Security Council Resolution 242 (1967) of 22 November 1967

Expressing its continuing concern with the grave situation in the Middle East,

Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war and the need to work for a just and lasting peace in which every State in the area can live in security,

Emphasizing further that all Member States in their acceptance of the Charter of the United Nations have undertaken a commitment to act in accordance with Article 2 of the Charter,

1. Affirms that the fulfillment of Charter principles requires the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East which should include the application of both the following principles:

* Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict;
* Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force;

2. Affirms further the necessity
* For guaranteeing freedom of navigation through international waterways in the area;
* For achieving a just settlement of the refugee problem;
* For guaranteeing the territorial inviolability and political independence of every State in the area, through measures including the establishment of demilitarized zones;

3. Requests the Secretary General to designate a Special Representative to proceed to the Middle East to establish and maintain contacts with the States concerned in order to promote agreement and assist efforts to achieve a peaceful and accepted settlement in accordance with the provisions and principles in this resolution;
4. Requests the Secretary-General to report to the Security Council on the progress of the efforts of the Special Representative as soon as possible. link to unispal.un.org

No mention of Palestine or the Green Line. The Green Line was the cease fire line negotiated by Moshe Dayan and Abdullah el-Tell 30 November 1948 , later adopted into the Armistice Agreements. It did not effect the borders of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan or Egypt or for that matter of Israel, because the Armistice Agreements “make clear that the 1949 Armistice Line is not a political boundary” (Israel agreed with you :-) link to mondoweiss.net

Of interest is the Israel/Lebanon Armistice Agreement (Israel agreed)

Article V
1. The Armistice Demarcation Line shall follow the international boundary between the Lebanon and Palestine. link to avalon.law.yale.edu

AND in the Israel/Syrian Armistice Agreement (Israel agreed) link to avalon.law.yale.edu

BTW all the Armistice Agreements (Israel agreed) called for peace “in Palestine”, not Israel

” I suggest that the Palestinians get an ICJ Opinion as to whether Israel did indeed illegally capture territory outside its borders in 1948-49. Do you support that idea?”

Certainly. However, “capture” in war is not illegal. To acquire by war or to acquire without an agreement or to settle ones citizens in occupied territories or institute the civil law of the occupying power in occupied territories, is illegal.

“Although Truman insisted that Israel declare on the partition boundaries, in his secret letter to Ben-Gurion he did not say that Israel should go back to the partition borders, but that there should be territorial compensation. I suppose thought that facts on the ground had already made a return to the partition borders impossible to achieve”

A change of citizenship is relatively simple.

“I have taken up Truman’s idea, and suggest to the Palestinians that in any peace negotiations they should request additional territory in a lowly populated area. Do you support that idea?”

Neither Egypt or Jordan relinquished any of their territory or requested Israel any territory.

“Do you have a better idea as to how the Palestinians might get a more just deal than the one they have so far been willing to accept, i.e West Bank and Gaza?”

Whatever they’re willing to accept is fine by me. My arguments are aimed at dispelling the nonsense, showing who is actually responsible by their own statements and undertakings and what a ghastly mess they have created

“The intention of the Arab states was always clear .. “

Israel proclaimed it’s boundaries. What lay outside of Israel isn’t Israeli.

“The Arab states did not enter Palestine “to expel Israeli forces from non-Israeli territory”. They did not recognize there was an Israeli territory. They entered Palestine..”</em

"Palestine" Israel was not Palestine. Palestine was not Israel. Israel was independent of Palestine. The UNSC resolutions call for peace in Palestine, NOT Israel. The UNSC did not condemn the Arab states for its Declaration on the Invasion of Palestine or for their initial actions. As regional powers and, with the exception of Jordan, as UN Members, they had the legal right on notifying the UNSC of their intentions, to attempt to expel Israeli forces from all non-Israeli territory.

“If they had been able to…”

Retrospective speculation is not an area I really care to deal with, nor does it carry any weight in legal argument.

Annie Robbins
February 28, 2015, 3:13 pm

tal, you claimed there are “hundreds” of examples. and yet you chose one in which i cited someone else (who himself was citing a psychologist) and then attributed it to me. it is not my wording and you know that.

you completed that comment and continued the sentence.

it’s extremely common here and everywhere else on the internet to copy and paste the phrase used one is referencing. are you trying to make the case you could fairly quote me as saying

“you completed that comment and continued the sentence. it’s extremely common here and everywhere else on the internet to copy and paste the phrase used one is referencing.”

because obviously that’s not an honest quote of what i said. i’m merely asking you to be accurate. and anyone who’s tried to copy paste from mondoweiss knows very well it always comes with a url for the original. so, clearly you grabbed a comment from over 5 years ago, mangled the formatting, and purposely erased the source url so the context was erased. certainly you can do better than that!!!

that means that you took the comment and elaborated it.

yes i did. i took someone else’s idea, and since i was quoting them i used their punctuation (which was not mine) and i elaborated with my own thoughts regarding what was stated. but it is not one sentence the way you copied it. nor did the idea or thought originate with me. it’s dishonest.

You hate Israelis, you hate me and you haven’t even met me.

i don’t hate you in the least. really, you’re placing way too much importance on yourself. i wouldn’t ever consider hating you, why would i allow you to have that kind of power over my soul. you have no idea what you are talking about and you do not know me at all. i really can’t figure out why you would come up with such an absurd assertion. i stated elsewhere in this thread “i’d suggest you click on my comment archives (click my name above this very comment)and do a search under “hate”. – See more at: link to mondoweiss.net

clearly, you didn’t. my feelings on the topic of hatred are quite clear, it corrodes the person who hates.

i don’t hate hops, anyone or anything. i couldn’t do what i do if i hated. i believe hate eats away at the host, so it’s really not my thing. i’ve discussed this a few times on MW
link to mondoweiss.net

Hatred paralyzes life; love releases it. Hatred confuses life; love harmonizes it. Hatred darkens life; love illuminates it.
Martin Luther King Jr.

Let no man pull you low enough to hate him.
Martin Luther King Jr.

Like an unchecked cancer, hate corrodes the personality and eats away its vital unity. Hate destroys a man’s sense of values and his objectivity. It causes him to describe the beautiful as ugly and the ugly as beautiful, and to confuse the true with the false and the false with the true.
Martin Luther King Jr.

Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars… Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that.
Martin Luther King Jr.

Nonviolence is the answer to the crucial political and moral questions of our time; the need for mankind to overcome oppression and violence without resorting to oppression and violence. Mankind must evolve for all human conflict a method which rejects revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method is love.
Martin Luther King Jr.

something told me if i googled martin luther king and ‘hate’ it might bring clarity. shall i try gandhi anyone?

and more recently: link to mondoweiss.net

nice try tho, but your ‘hate’ lingo bounces right off me, definitely not my bag.

and the last link in that blockquote leads here:

c&d, american, i can accept that you hate israel because i refuse to live in denial, but it is not acceptable to me that you hate. it’s bad for your mental health. you will be a stronger warrior for peace if you can rid your heart of hate. i believe that.

good luck.

this is not a new position of mine, it is part of my philosophy of life and it’s been with me my whole life it was the way i was raised and the way i raised my child.

i think you’re spamming the thread.you entered the thread and stated myself and others had “hate for Jews and Israel”. take it somewhere else. good bye.

hophmi
February 28, 2015, 3:12 pm

I am hopeful that National SJP will now drop their ban on Zionist speakers and Palestinian dissidents who disagree with BDS, such as human rights activist Bassam Eid, and follow the lead of the Harvard Hillel by inviting speakers who dissent from their point of view on Israel, particularly since most members of SJP are ignorant about Israel. Will you join me in this call, Phil?

Bornajoo
February 28, 2015, 3:10 pm

“hitler was crazy he needed help not power or a position of leadership”

Great line Michelle. You can easily swap Hitler with Netanyahu: Netanyahu is crazy, he needs help not power or a position of leadership

I hope the rest of the day gets better

W.Jones
February 28, 2015, 2:59 pm

Yepppppppp

Downside is that a couple legislators foolishly abandoned the amazing opportunity to celebrate world boxing champ Net–an–ya–hu!
Maybe if Netanyahu actually had a close election race at home and a bigger liberal public there he would be more careful.

W.Jones
February 28, 2015, 2:58 pm

Part of it is the issue. Dems are on board with Obama on the Iran issue, as are much of AIPAC’s base.

If the issue were human rights for Palestinians, then it would be tougher because the lobby’s hardcore supporters are more intense about that issue than about a mere “deal” with Iran, which won’t get nukes soon regardless of a deal or not. And after all, how can you support human rights for Palestinians if they “don’t exist”?

Mooser
February 28, 2015, 2:56 pm

“…it it will reduce the United States’ commitment to the security of Israel,”

Not to in any way slight Mr. Parsi, or imply anything about his well-spoken words, but when some people say “the security of Israel” I never know whether they mean “the security of Israel” or ‘protecting Israel from the consequences of its own intransigence and lawbreaking’.
And I still don’t know where the dividing line is. If there is one.

michelle
February 28, 2015, 2:56 pm

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hello Bornajoo
I hope your day is wonderfilled
m
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you are quite right
i’m on a library/broadband computer
and just watched the video
old dog new tricks takes time lol
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going to a public place to view videos that make me cry
what fun …. not
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hitler was crazy he needed help not power or a position of leadership
who is the hitler of Israel or Zion or whatever and who is allowing
this craziness to represent Israel or Zion or whatever
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G-d Bless
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HarryLaw
February 28, 2015, 2:56 pm

Iran will be the dominant state in the region, that is why the arc of resistance Iran, Syria, Iraq and Hezbollah are being attacked by the mercenaries of Islamic State and Al Nusra paid for by rich Saudi and other Gulf state individuals and on a sectarian basis, facilitated by Turkey and the US training so called moderates to fight the low hanging fruit of the arc in Syria and Lebanon. This strategy is not going well, even in Lebanon Harari’s March 14 group of Sunni muslims who are formally opposed to Hezbollah are now in talks with them in order to thwart attacks on Lebanon from the organ eating monsters. An attack on Iran is not going to happen, because Iran is too strong, and in military terms, Israel and US bases in the Gulf could be targeted with at least 150,000 rockets from both Iran and Hezbollah. The US fleet would be extremely vulnerable since Iran has so many of the latest anti-ship missiles [bought from the Chinese]. A land invasion like the Iraq debacle, would need an army of one and a half million men to try to secure the nuclear sites, in other words US conscription. With a population of nearly 80 million most of whom would fight to the death to kill any invader, [remember the Shia take their shrouds into battle]. Any aggression against such a proud and independent state would be far too costly, and Obama and his chiefs of staff know it.

justicewillprevail
February 28, 2015, 2:54 pm

The money will be left in a plain envelope. Thankyou for your services.

Mooser
February 28, 2015, 2:49 pm

“Kagan a “reformed neocon” …where is this evidence?”

Remember Phil also likes to supply us with the MDR of irony, and other vital newstrients.

Bornajoo
February 28, 2015, 2:37 pm

@Michelle – no it’s still there, I just checked

michelle
February 28, 2015, 2:34 pm

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you tube has blocked the video
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G-d Bless
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Bornajoo
February 28, 2015, 2:34 pm

@Tal
I asked you to show me one example of Annie where she states that she hates Jews. This is not that example. Do you know why you cannot find one Tal? It’s because it doesn’t exist.

What you are doing Tal, and what so many pro-Israel Zionists do is they CONFLATE criticism of Israel with anti semitism. You do this in order to try and label people as anti semites because of their criticism of Israel.

Criticising Israel has nothing to do with criticising Jews. As I told you previously, I’m Jewish and I am an extremely strong critic of Israel which has come about through years of actual personal experience. Like Annie, I am exercising my right of free speech to criticise the crimes against humanity committed by Israel on a regular basis. It has nothing to do with criticising Jews or being anti semitic. It’s people like you who want to label anyone who criticises Israel as anti semitic. This tactic has worked well for decades but finally people are becoming wise to this conflation and are no longer falling for it

So I’m still waiting for you to find one single example of Annie stating that she hates Jews. Good luck.

Tal Shapira
February 28, 2015, 2:31 pm

Annie, you want to blame my formatting? you completed that comment and continued the sentence. that means that you took the comment and elaborated it.

Let’s talk about my point which you so elegantly trying to avoid by attacking.

You wrote this column with an intent to smear all israelis with quotes such as “casual racism is embedded bla bla” … you claimed that Israelis are inherently racist, stop avoiding my argument. You hate Israelis, you hate me and you haven’t even met me.

The title of your article is “racism in the air” well the only racism I smell in the air is the one you spew from your keyboard in this website.

amigo
February 28, 2015, 2:22 pm

“Still waiting for Charlie Hebdo or other so called liberal political cartoon outlets to draw BB and Boehner giving each other bj’s. “Kathleen.

You do mean breast implants , right.

a blah chick
February 28, 2015, 2:14 pm

And when it’s over please be sure to say “please sir, can I have some more?”

Anything else would be rude.

pabelmont
February 28, 2015, 2:06 pm

Well, yes. It’s “let’s have fun with Bibi” time. But AIPAC is always in the background. Let’s see which way Clinton (is she in Congress?) and Liz go. Maybe they’ll both have urgent dentist appointments when the Israeli PM comes to Congress (and to AIPAC).

Something about all this is as fun as pulling teeth.

Annie Robbins
February 28, 2015, 2:05 pm

just to be clear, the conversation went like this: link to mondoweiss.net in response to p.g’s comment “According to Avigail Abarbanel” (her theory)

Israelis NEED violence

like an addiction to sustain itself. its the perpetual lie that enables the expansion, without which israel would have to face its culpability.

or perhaps you can better explain how the founding and subsequent expansion of the state could/would have occurred. either way, i was responding to someone else’s remarks which included the phrase “Israelis NEED violence”. and, since i placed it in italics, it was not, officially, my quote. it was a quote i responded to.

and, a more thoughtful reading would conclude that the meaning here is “it’s the perpetual lie” (of israeli “security” violence/always in response or reaction – always the victim) that is the addiction, without which israel would have to face its culpability.

perhaps you could provide another example, without mangling the formatting and attributing a quote (from someone else i cited) to me instead, to make your case.

and thank you bornajoo, for coming to my defense.

genesto
February 28, 2015, 1:58 pm

My hat off to the mohel. That’s one brave rabbi!

genesto
February 28, 2015, 1:54 pm

—- or Barbara Boxer’s, or Chuck Schumer’s, or Steve Israel’s, or Harry Reid’s, or —————–

Tal Shapira
February 28, 2015, 1:54 pm

Here’s one of hundreds “Israelis NEED violence like an addiction to sustain itself. its the perpetual lie that enables the expansion, without which israel would have to face its culpability.”

joemowrey
February 28, 2015, 1:44 pm

Yes, a very solid point. In addition, Obama knows full well that his posturing will make him look like some sort of “Progressive” while having little or no impact on the long term policy or strategy of the Empire. He’s doing a lot of this now that he is a lame duck. He wants to leave behind him the same illusion he has maintained throughout his presidency, that he is some sort of “liberal” politician. The memory-challenged U.S. public won’t remember all the cave ins he made concerning Israel ,nor all his support for the continued ethnic cleansing and carnage taking place in Palestine. What they will remember is him “standing up” to Netanyahu.

Nonsense. Just more Kabuki theater by ObamaCon, Wizard of Guile.

Mooser
February 28, 2015, 1:38 pm

“Why , that,s his Kippah.”

I should’ve paid more attention in Hebrew school. But I guess everybody knows that.

Kathleen
February 28, 2015, 1:29 pm

Good question Atlanta. That statement jumped out at me too.

Have now heard warmonger and U.S. Gov I in the Aipac espionage investigation Kenneth Pollack making MSM rounds again. Heard him on Diane Rehm this summer and on I think it was Steve Kornacki’s program. Why the f do these outlets insist on recycling these warmongering fk’s? They were knowingly deadly wrong on the WMD hype and they ask them on their programs why?

Kagan a “reformed neocon” …where is this evidence?

Annie Robbins
February 28, 2015, 1:25 pm

phil called him a neocon less than a month ago link to mondoweiss.net

and he knows he’s married to nuland link to mondoweiss.net

i think what he means perhaps is kagan branding himself as a centrist, liberal zionist vs the hardcore version we saw on the run up to the iraq war. i don’t think phil means he’s not a neocon anymore. but you’d have to ask him. not sure he’s hanging out in the comment section at this time. but maybe he’ll respond.

Kathleen
February 28, 2015, 1:25 pm

Still waiting for Charlie Hebdo or other so called liberal political cartoon outlets to draw BB and Boehner giving each other bj’s. Somehow that one not acceptable

pabelmont
February 28, 2015, 1:19 pm

Curious attitude of Hillel-Int’l (“HI”). You cannot visit (or speak publicly or something) if you ARE a BDS supporter. Means more than something about your secret thoughts I guess. Support must be visible I guess. But your reason for seeking to visit HI-occupied-territory seems irrelevant. Even to speak about green Martians, you are proscribed. You’re toxic. Wonder if it corrects things for you to (later) publicly have said that you don’t support BDS. Or don’t support all of it. Do you stay toxic?

“Toxic”. Try it on, see if it fits. If you ever, ever in your life, spoke bad words (“bad” as defined by HI), you are thereafter toxic. Cannot do (something) in HI-occupied-territory. Cannot visit? Cannot speak? Cannot stand in the cafeteria line? Something. (I don’t write the rules.)

Think of the American south, ca 1960. Separate water fountains. Guess HI is not a place of public accommodation. Thought police! (Didn’t Germany and Japan have thought police during WWII?) Well, that’s OK because HI is not the government. Just a private censorship club in which frightened Jews may huddle, there to be protected from hearing unbearable opinion — never mind that such opinion is freely available outside HI-occupied-territory.

So it goes.

amigo
February 28, 2015, 1:14 pm

“What’s that red cap on the rocket? “Mooser.

Why , that,s his Kippah.He just put it on the wrong crown.

David Doppler
February 28, 2015, 1:09 pm

Netanyahu has picked a bitter fight with Obama, over Iranian negotiations. Obama, who has virtually unlimited and highly nuanced capacity to make news between Netanyahu’s speech and the election. The Israeli opposition is nearly united in criticizing Netanyahu for his over-the-top heavy-handedness in politicizing the US-Israeli relationship.

What news might Obama, or his people, or his independent supporters in various places, including among Netanyahu’s political foes in Israel, make? Announcing a deal with Iran. Or making a speech to the global community advocating for a realistic deal. Disclosing more intelligence reports that further contradict Netanyahu’s lie-mongering. Disclosing those 28 paragraphs of the Senate Report on 9-11, that supposedly implicate Saudi Arabia, but who knows where that trail may lead. Direct criticism of Netanyahu for his policies and/or statements in the speech, along lines that track direct criticisms of Netanyahu by his center-left opposition, such as billions for building settlements outside of designated areas. How about cutting off US funding to Israel in the exact amounts invested by Netanyahu in such settlement building, which is perceived in Israel as undercutting needs for more and better housing options for Israelis. Revelations of Israeli misdeeds under Netanyahu’s leadership that have been kept from the public. Revelations of further petty corruptions characteristic of Netanyahu’s government. Major newspapers endorsing BDS. US military leaders discussing how Neocon conniving cost soldiers’ lives. Breaking the silence breaking their silence.

Obama has avoided punching the bully in the nose for years. Now, having transformed himself into a giant June Bug, Netanyahu has flown right onto Obama’s porch and landed on the table in front of him, where he’s waddling around yelling the same tired old Neocon bromides we’ve all been sickened by for years, pretending to wield the power symbolized by the US Capitol. Obama’s rolled up newspaper is in hand. His aides and supporters, and Netanyahu’s political enemies are all there with various fly-swatters and other, heavier weaponry.

Crunch-Splat!

Ramzi Jaber
February 28, 2015, 1:07 pm

In spite of a lot of enthusiasm in this article/thread, and across MW, that things are starting to change in Washington and American politics, the experienced fella in me (not the cynic!) says that this is a tempest in a teapot, primarily artificial created to serve the interest of all parties concerned.

The only change in DC and American politics will come with the next generation or the one after it. It took the zionists almost three generations to build their support and force their control. This current generation of American pols is totally bound to the core by the zionist control, totally submissive and subservient to the foreign zionist entity.

Lest we forget, kristol (as head of emergency committee for ISRAEL) is overtly, blatantly, and absolutely supporting a foreign country against his own. Just stunning how American politicians chose to ignore these facts. kristol is an agent of a foreign entity working against his own government. If that’s not fifth column, I don’t know what is. Still, he and the zionist entity are supported by American politicians while the American people is sleeping.

As to Hillary, whether she attends the speech or not, it really does not matter. Bottom line, she is owned by saban. And any american pol, whether owned by saban or kristol or adelson, will side totally and equivocally with the zionist entity. Because all zionists – left, right, center, center-left, center-right, extreme-left, extrem-right, religious, neo-con, old-con, don’t matter – and all their American agents have one and only goal: never have a Palestinian state. Only their tactics and facade are different.

So 1S1P1V is coming and coming sooner than anyone thinks……………………

just
February 28, 2015, 12:54 pm

“Will Hillary walk in to Aipac etc holding Bill Kristol’s hand or not?”

Any appendage will do.

Sycamores
February 28, 2015, 12:49 pm

Harvard College Progressive Jewish Alliance an affiliated group of Harvard Hillel. i’m surprise HCJA has ‘from Selma to Ferguson’ video (their only video) on their youtube account.

Taxi
February 28, 2015, 12:44 pm

And who’s mouth is in direct alignment? Lindsay Graham’s.

Taxi
February 28, 2015, 12:42 pm

Ooops lol wrong thread for this comment – it’s meant to be on Katie Miranda’s ‘The Emperor’s Nuke Clothes’ ! It’s what happens when you have too many MW pages open while multi-tasking other stuff too!

kma
February 28, 2015, 12:39 pm

Israel and its minion, Hillel, will have to host trips to Israel for hundreds of millions of Americans to make a dent on their collective opinion. Hahahahahah!
In the meantime, the average American is sick of it and has had some eye-opening glimpses into the truth through sending its young to Iraq and Afghanistan and seeing what Israel does to Gaza and the West Bank.

Zionists can tell themselves they have the minds of Americans, but they know as well as anyone what they have to do every minute of every day to purchase/threaten/entice politicians and media into supporting ethnic cleansing. I don’t even think more than half of American Jews do.

Taxi
February 28, 2015, 12:37 pm

You mean this, MRW:

link to informationliberation.com

“From the children of Israel, to the children of Lebanon, with love,” – that’s what the zionists kids were writing on artillery shells bound for civilian targets in Lebanon.

Nice neighbors if you can get them.

Walid
February 28, 2015, 12:34 pm

Very gentlemanly of an Israeli to come to the defense of Saudia.

Atlantaiconoclast
February 28, 2015, 12:24 pm

Where is the evidence that Kagan is becoming a reformed Neocon? His wife, Victoria Nuland, orchestrated a coup in Ukraine just last year for goodness sake.

Taxi
February 28, 2015, 12:13 pm

Who’s mouth is in direct alignment? Lindsay Graham’s.

MRW
February 28, 2015, 12:07 pm

Email it to your congressman before Tuesday. Every seasoned politician knows that when the complaint reaches ridicule, things have changed. When the public starts to sneer and laugh at you, you’ve lost ground.

We need to give our congressmen diarrhea for attending.

BTW, Katie, I agree with everyone here: brilliant.

Citizen
February 28, 2015, 12:06 pm

Here’s a run down on Warren’s stances to date regarding items very important to AIPAC & Israel: link to heritagefl.com

She’s apparently done her homework and is walking a fine line to retain support/donations from both PEPs and pure (populist) progressives. Will be most interesting to see if she attends Bibi’s speech or not.

MRW
February 28, 2015, 12:06 pm

Or one of those little girls we saw during Operation Cast Lead drawing one on it.

Kathleen
February 28, 2015, 11:57 am

That Emergency Committee for Israel is a clear warning to Hillary…you are either with us or against us. Do you want the money for your campaign or not?

Will Hillary walk in to Aipac etc holding Bill Kristol’s hand or not?

kma
February 28, 2015, 11:55 am

Who cares whether Warren goes to Netanyahu’s speech or not? She has already done her pilgrimage to Israel complete with statement of full support for the most recent slaughter of Gaza. She “dissented” on one or two of the ubiquitous pro-Israel resolutions and ass-licking bills in congress which gives her an A- by AIPAC instead of the usual A+.

Is that all you guys want out of your politicians??

Kathleen
February 28, 2015, 11:54 am

Kagan attempting to divert the real issue by saying the problem is that BB’s visit now opens the door to the possibility that other world leaders will be invited to speak before congress with out Presidential approval is not going to happen. Kagan’s concern like so many is the Israel/U.S relationship. Not BB’s outrageous attempt to undermine the P5+1 negotiations. One would think these alleged foreign policy experts would be more concerned about that very serious issue.

Rami Khouri ” This kind of test almost never happens, so members of congress can routinely support everything Israel does or wants, without paying any price at home. That pattern has now been disrupted.” Been happening for decades and now we have BB to thank for the exposure.

What is BB going to say on March 3. He has to address the rift. Know we are going to hear him use “Iran is a grave threat to the world” over and over. How in the hell can he address this rift with out looking like a back stabber and warmonger that he is?

Kris
February 28, 2015, 11:49 am

@DaBakr: “you can think what you want about camera but it is perceived no differently then alJazeera, ma’an, or even the Guardian. At least when the subject is the i/p.”

This is so funny! Thanks, DaBakr.

Sort of like, ” you can think what you want about Vaccination Liberation but it is perceived no differently than the Journal of The American Medical Association , the New England Journal of Medicine, or even The Lancet. At least when the subject is immunology.”

Mooser
February 28, 2015, 11:46 am

Walid, senior citizens should avoid wearing teenage heels, and strutting around a stage.”

When she embraced Kaballah and forgot about the Via Dolorosa it was bound to happen.

amigo
February 28, 2015, 11:45 am

Brilliant Kate.

I like to imagine him sitting astride the rocket on his way to Iran to save the Jewish people.

This should be seen by every Palestinian in Gaza.They deserve a good chuckle at his expense.

Citizen
February 28, 2015, 11:43 am

@just

For her senate campaign Warren spent the most of all contenders on consultants (80% from outside Mass.): 2 million. Democratic strategist Doug Rubin, the former chief of staff to Gov. Deval Patrick, was the state’s biggest earner; his Natick-based company, D&R Associates Inc., made $245,000 for advising Elizabeth Warren and Joe Kennedy.

Mooser
February 28, 2015, 11:41 am

“Following her staunch Catholic upbringing and faith in her early career, frequently referred to in her songs,”

Oy I remember that! Like such a virgin she was! ROTFLMSJAO!

Taxi
February 28, 2015, 11:40 am

Netanyahu’s nuke would grow like Pinocchio’s nose with every lie.

pabelmont
February 28, 2015, 11:38 am

Make a post-card out of that and send it to every Congressman and the president. They’ll chuckle all the way to the AIPAC hoo-haw.

David Gerald Fincham
February 28, 2015, 11:38 am

Reply to talknic of February 28, 2015, 4:35 am

I was not challenging the fact that Israel was declared and recognized as a sovereign state with the borders specified in the partition plan. I was challenging your assertion that Israel’s declaration was not outside the process specified in the Plan. The important point to make is that Israel’s Declaration WAS outside the process of the Plan, not authorized by the Plan, not an implementation of the Plan.

Mooser
February 28, 2015, 11:37 am

Any certified Jewish person can become an “Israeli citizen” (or, rather, an Israeli Jewish citizen, which is a much better thing) by ‘purchasing’ property and if I recall, passing through to sign papers. It’s that darn certification which is so hard to get.

just
February 28, 2015, 11:33 am

+1 !

Thank you, Katie!

kma
February 28, 2015, 11:29 am

but congress are the ones giving Netanyahu all those “standing erections”. (how many will he get this time?)

David Gerald Fincham
February 28, 2015, 11:13 am

“No sorting out, no negotiations.” There is no authority higher than that of the sovereign state which can determine where its borders are. If two neighboring states agree where their borders are, fine. If not, they have to negotiate an agreement. The State of Palestine was not in the picture in 1967. Now it is. Israel and Palestine are neighbors. They do not agree where their border is: they will have to negotiate it.

You and I believe that Israel’s recognized border in 1948-49 was the partition line, and that Israel illegally stole territory outside that border in the subsequent war. The ICJ could confirm that. But the ICJ does not have the authority to say that is where Israel’s border is now. That is a political question, not a legal question, because there is no legal system higher than the sovereign state which can decide where the borders of a state are. The border between Israel and Palestine can only be determined by an agreement between them.

“What they both need is for Zionism to be outlawed” I won’t respond to that.

“There is no ethical, moral, legal or logical reason why Palestine should negotiate ANYTHING until Israel agrees to withdraw from all none Israeli territories.” Yes, except that the extent of Israel’s territory is undefined until there is an agreement.

Blownaway
February 28, 2015, 11:13 am

It’s all noise. As we speak Israel is lobbying congress for 300 million for iron dome. Ultimately even those who boycott the speech will fall in line the day after. Unless Amerucan pride is hurt ( and it seems to need a lot to hurt it) there will be no long term ramifications to this and Netanyahu knows it. There is no downside to insulting the President of The United States… Repeatedly

Mooser
February 28, 2015, 11:12 am

“Gotta love the inanity of Jeff’s arguments!”

You gotta love “JeffyB”! He betters Hannah Arendt two ways. Going beyond mere banality he delivers both the inanity and the anality of evil.

And JeffyB, if you want that engraved on something marble, just let me know.

Kay24
February 28, 2015, 11:05 am

Ha ha, now Katie might be accused of being anti-semitic. Perhaps those watching this war mongers speech can try to find some humor in it, by picturing the man in Congress, and visualize him the way Katie depicts him. That should make you less mad when he lies, which he definitely will.

Mooser
February 28, 2015, 11:04 am

What’s that red cap on the rocket? Shouldn’t that be removed a few days after manufacture? Oh well, I’m no rocket scientist.

Krauss
February 28, 2015, 11:01 am

Oh, it escalates even more.

Now the WH are going to offer their rebuttal to him, too

link to nytimes.com

Obama is doing more than merely standing up against Bibi after all these years. He is paving the way for future presidents. Everyone remembered James Baker in 91 and how Bush the Elder lost because of it(or partly because of it). That lesson was absorbed by Clinton.

Now Obama is essentially reversing that “lesson”. He escalates and he doesn’t pay a price. The polls show that the people are on his side.

That will be hugely important because 2015 will be the new benchmark year instead of 1991 and now the American president wins because of it.

justicewillprevail
February 28, 2015, 11:01 am

And this , dear members of Congress, is how he is planning to take you. Do enjoy it.

Bumblebye
February 28, 2015, 10:55 am

Oh how rude!
it needs a star of David condom to hide the nuke.

Ramzi Jaber
February 28, 2015, 10:39 am

And here we have it, Ladies and Gentleman, from the horse’s mouth……….. DRUM ROLL …………

“In the United States they say that if he had been born in the US, he’d have been elected president there.”

Nutnyahoo is angry, envious, and jealous of the US President. HE wanted to be the US President. He is angry that he had to settle for the head of the illegitimate zionists entity. King BiBi believes he deserves more and is entitled to more than that. He is smarter than that. He is the smartest in the wold, the destined child of God. So he always want to talk to the US Congress and play with American pols to satisfy his strange need to feel just a bit like the US President. This is where his true heart is. The zionist entity is just what he was able to get. But he’s angry he’s not the US President.

And the truth always comes out from the strangest places………….

ahadhaadam
February 28, 2015, 10:37 am

You forgot the nuclear symbol on the missile.
link to lh5.ggpht.com

a blah chick
February 28, 2015, 10:24 am

Katie, I think you’re flattering the man.

Annie Robbins
February 28, 2015, 10:22 am

katie you are brilliant ;)