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Netanyahu holding letters between the World Jewish Congress and the US War Department in 1944(Photo: Cliff Owen/AP)

Hopefully, a lot will be written about Benjamin Netanyahu’s angry and defiant speech to AIPAC last night, and about how the Israel P.M., who was flanked by two heavyset guards with clipped hair and shiny suits, sought to rally the Israel lobby against President Obama.

“Amazingly, some people refuse to acknowledge that Iran’s goal is to develop nuclear weapons. You see, Iran claims that it’s enriching uranium to develop medical research. Yeah– right,” Netanyahu said and went on to envision an ICBM headed your way and suggested you tell yourself it is filled with medical supplies.

The speech was notable for Netanyahu likening the Iranians to Nazis, and Iran’s nuclear program to Auschwitz.

“I will never allow my people to live in the shadow of annihilation,” he said. And: “Some commentators would have you believe that stopping Iran from getting the bomb is more dangerous [than allowing Iran to get one.]”

Then Netanyahu got out copies of two letters he said he keeps in his desk, between the World Jewish Congress and the War Department in 1944, when the WJC called on the United States to bomb the extermination camp at Auschwitz, and the War Department refused. The letters are below. The refusal included the argument that attacking the camp might unleash even more “vindictive” behavior.

“Think about that,” Netanyahu said. “Even more vindictive than the Holocaust!”

The John McCloy letter he read from is widely cited among American Jews as a coded statement of anti-Semitism at the highest level of American society at that time. I grew up hearing about McCloy. The suggestion was clear: America didn’t act the last time either. The New York Times is reporting that Obama told Netanyahu that Israel’s war talk had already caused gas prices to go up.

Netanyahu added that 1944 is not 2012, but the difference is that there is now a Jewish state that will take action to save Jews and preserve the Jewish future. “Never again will the Jewish people be supplicants for our very survival,” he said.

We must ask ourselves, What are Netanyahu’s real aims? Is he trivializing the Holocaust for political ends: in order to knock Obama out of the White House or  gain an advantage over a regional competitor? Already Israel has gotten crippling sanctions against Iran, and Obama is promising to do more, and the Republican presidential candidates even more than that. A highly effective politician, Netanyahu has us right where he wants us.  

Here are the letters, from PBS:


August 9, 1944

Hon. John J. McCloy
Under Secretary of War
War Department
Washington, D.C.

My dear Mr. Secretary:

I beg to submit to your consideration the following excerpt from a message which we received under date of July 29 from Mr. Ernest Frischer of the Czechoslovak State Council through the War Refugee Board:

“I believe that destruction of gas chambers and crematoria in Oswiecim by bombing would have a certain effect now. Germans are now exhuming and burning corpses in an effort to conceal their crimes. This could be prevented by destruction of crematoria and then Germans might possibly stop further mass exterminations especially since so little time is left to them. Bombing of railway communications in this same area would also be of importance and of military interest.”

Sincerely yours,

A. Leon Kubowitzki
Head, Rescue Department

14 August 1944

Dear Mr. Kubowitski:

I refer to your letter of August 9 in which you request consideration of a proposal made by Mr. Ernest Frischer that certain installations and railroad centers be bombed.

The War Department had been approached by the War Refugee Board, which raised the question of the practicability of this suggestion. After a study it became apparent that such an operation could be executed only by the diversion of considerable air support essential to the success of our forces now engaged in decisive operations elsewhere and would in any case be of such doubtful efficacy that it would not warrant the use of our resources. There has been considerable opinion to the effect that such an effort, even if practicable, might provoke even more vindictive action by the Germans.

The War Department fully appreciates the humanitarian motives which promoted the suggested operation, but for the reasons stated above it has not been felt that it can or should be undertaken, at least at this time.


John J. McCloy
Assistant Secretary of War

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  1. seafoid on March 6, 2012, 9:10 am

    It wasn’t just the Americans who abandoned the Jews of Hungary in 1944.

    In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest. One man stood out among them, Dr. Rudolf Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation and even keep order in the collection camps if I would close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price of 15,000 to 20,000 Jews – in the end there may have been more – was not too high for me.

    • Krauss on March 6, 2012, 6:27 pm

      Say what you will.

      Netanyahu knows which emotional strings to play. I watched the speech for pure political effect. I admit I was deeply moved. He knows how to manipulate Jewish emotions very well. I wouldn’t be surprised if Phil too had a moment of Jewish pride and defiance if he listened to his speech.

      Still, it’s important to remember that a very significant part of the Israeli defence establishment is against a war. A considerable number has gone out publicy in irritation stating that calling Iran an ‘existential threat’ is over the top. And it is.

      It’s a threat, no doubt. But Iran isn’t suicidial. This isn’t a blanket statement. Most Israeli (and Western) military experts have a concensus view on this. I could list example after example but you get the point.

      If it gets the bomb it won’t use it. But it would be de-stabilizing for the region because the threat isn’t Iran sending a nuclear missile. The threat is the nuclear arms race that would ensue, as well as nuclear proliferation, unintentional or not, to various Iranian-funded terrorist groups.

      These threats wouldn’t be coordinated by Iran, rather the nuclear bomb would set off a chain reaction of events that nobody would be able to control, neither Israel, Iran or the West. Saudi Arabia is already started work on nuclear reactions with the help of the Chinese so it may already be too late.

      Nontheless, Iran isn’t an ‘existential’ threat, it’s more of a regional threat to both Western and Israeli hegemony.

      And Netanyahu’s incessant use of the Holocaust is disturbing, because it may come a time when such talk is warranted, but if the Holocaust is overused then it may become watered down, leaving people asleep at the wheels. Much like today’s overuse of the anti-Semitism charge which has led to a subtle acceptance of anti-Semitic lingo in certain quarters(dare I remind people of yesterday’s ‘shadow government’ discussion?).

      All this is depressing of course, invoking a terrible tragedy for regional power struggles rather than genuine survival.

      • Shingo on March 6, 2012, 6:45 pm

        I admit I was deeply moved

        Which sugegsts you must be deeply disturbed. You should have been sickened by his exploitation of that tragedy for political gain.

        Still, it’s important to remember that a very significant part of the Israeli defence establishment is against a war.

        The problem is that the ISraelis elected this socipath to office, not the Israeli defence establishment.

        But it would be de-stabilizing for the region because the threat isn’t Iran sending a nuclear missile.

        No, the threat is that Israel would lose it’s ovwewhelming nuclear wepoans advantage and will no longer be able to act with impunity – and like you, the Israeli government can’t tolerate that outcome.

      • Izik on March 7, 2012, 5:15 am

        “the threat is that Israel would lose it’s ovwewhelming nuclear wepoans advantage”

        No. The threat is that Iran, a country that refers to Israel as a “cancerous tumor that must be removed” will have Nuclear ICBM’s aimed at Israel. Not good.

      • Shingo on March 7, 2012, 5:35 am

        No. The threat is that Iran, a country that refers to Israel as a “cancerous tumor that must be removed” will have Nuclear ICBM’s aimed at Israel. Not good.

        Rubbish. It’s a pitty you pin headed hasbrats don’t actually read what your leaders have said.

        Netenyahu admitted to Goldberg that the problem with Iran having nukes is not that Iran would use them, but that:

        1. It would lead to a brain drain in Israel, as educated and skilled Israelis migrated to other states
        2. It would limit Israel’s ability to operate with impunity against Hamas and Hezbollah. In fact, when it looked like the Russians were about to sell Israel the S300 anti aircraft missiles, the head of the IAF complained that such weapons (whcih are defensive only) woudl limit ISrael ability to operate in the region.

        Israel has never liked the idea of a fair fight.

        Ehud Barak has admitted that would not be a threat even if Iran had nukes. Tzipi Livni has said the same thing.

        Daniel Peltka from the AEI (ie. Likud Central in the US) said the greatest danger is not that Iran would use it’s nukes, but that it would not and therefore prove itself to be a rational actor on the world stage.

        The head of the Joint Chiefs testified before the Senate recently that Iran’s leaders are rational actors.

        Of course, the fact that Israel has Nuclear ICBM’s aimed at Iran (including nuclear armed submarines parked off the coast of Iran) doesn’t seem to bother you. That’s the kind of moral tunnel vision we’ve come to expect from ethnocentric supremacists.

      • Duscany on March 7, 2012, 6:49 pm

        But it’s perfectly fine, Izik, if Israel has nuclear ICBMs aimed at Iran?

      • Mooser on March 8, 2012, 6:44 pm

        No. The threat is that Iran, a country that refers to Israel as a “cancerous tumor that must be removed” “

        If I’m not mistaken, over 500 Israelis suddenly dropped dead when “Iran” referred to Israel that way. A lot of them were women and children, too!
        However, Izik, if you have a larger figure for the number of Israeli deaths caused by Iran’s speech, I am willing to accept it.
        Of course, if you want to go to war on Iran simply for having been reputed as saying that nasty stuff about Israel, that makes perfect sense.
        Yes sir, Christian mothers and fathers all over America are, even at this very moment, telling their children they will be disinherited if they don’t go and avenge the insults to Israel. Really, it’s what they care about most.

      • American on March 6, 2012, 6:47 pm

        Wake up Krauss, there’s nothing anti semtic about saying Israel firsters are a shadow government for Israel. It’s pretty much common knowledge so you’re hyperventilating over nothing.

      • Mooser on March 6, 2012, 8:14 pm

        “I admit I was deeply moved. He knows how to manipulate Jewish emotions very well.”

        Krauss, if you are that easily minipulated, that easily coerced by the cheapest kind of ethnic flatulence, and that dull, you should really keep it to yourself> Good God, man, what would happen if you ran into a Bernie Madoff. You’d be bankrupt before you knew it.
        Of course, if you are the least bit impressed by Netanyahoo, you’re probably pretty bankrupt already, in any number of areas..

      • Mooser on March 6, 2012, 8:19 pm

        “I wouldn’t be surprised if Phil too had a moment of Jewish pride and defiance if he listened to his speech.”

        Krauss, if you’re going to insult a man like that, at least have some kind of proof to back it up. But then again, I understand how you feel. I very often wish other people were just as stupid as me. It’s natural.

      • Shingo on March 6, 2012, 10:26 pm

        God, man, what would happen if you ran into a Bernie Madoff. You’d be bankrupt before you knew it.

        That’s hillarious Mooser. Jonathan Pollard would probably have Krauss offering to keep his cell warm so that he could just visit his family for the weekend.

      • seafoid on March 7, 2012, 5:02 am

        Jewish pride has been mangled to produce YESHA.
        Jewish pride doesn’t go with militarism . The militarists will eventually be defeated. What will be left in the wreckage ?

      • Citizen on March 7, 2012, 8:23 am

        Krauss, I know what you mean, being deeply moved and all by Bibi’s speech. I’m deeply moved by that old painting, “Custer’s Last Stand” we use to see on every public school wall here in America. A US cavalry charge moves my heart to the sound of that movie bugle. And who can’t be moved by Stonewall Jackson and his valiant Johnny Rebs?

    • Daniel Rich on March 6, 2012, 6:32 pm

      @ seafoid,

      Nobody talks about what happened to the Danish Jews [during WWII]…

      • RoHa on March 6, 2012, 6:45 pm

        That’s because no-one ever helped any Jews anywhere at any time, let alone during WW2.

      • Daniel Rich on March 7, 2012, 1:13 am


        It’s never advisable to speak out without proper knowledge of events you comment on.

        My biological dad survived the war thanks to countless brave men and women who literally risked their lives. He spent over 4 years in hiding. You degrade the bravery and mock those who died. This is what happened to the Danish Jews:

        The rescue of the Danish Jews occurred during Nazi Germany’s occupation of Denmark during World War II. On October 1st 1943 Nazi leader Adolf Hitler ordered Danish Jews to be arrested and deported. Despite great personal risk, the Danish resistance movement with the assistance of many ordinary Danish citizens took part in a collective effort to evacuate about 8,000 Jews of Denmark by sea to nearby neutral Sweden.

        The rescue allowed the vast majority of Denmark’s Jewish population to avoid capture by the Nazis and is considered to be one of the largest actions of collective resistance to repression in the countries occupied by Nazi Germany. As a result of the rescue and Danish intercession on behalf of the 5% of Danish Jews who were deported to Theresienstadt transit camp in Bohemia, over 99% of Denmark’s Jewish population survived the Holocaust.

      • RoHa on March 7, 2012, 2:35 am

        “It’s never advisable to speak out without proper knowledge of events you comment on. ”

        But we get told over and over and over again that Jews are always persecuted and never helped, and this went double for European Jews in WW2. We get told that no-one lifted a finger to help them.

        Are you suggesting that the people who tell us that are overstating the case just a teensy-weensy little bit?

      • seafoid on March 7, 2012, 4:57 am

        I think the case of the Hungarian Jews is one of the saddest. They survived until 1944 . The Germans were already losing the war. The Allies knew about the death camps. And the Hungarian Jews were betrayed.

        Hungary is still suffering because of this.

      • Citizen on March 7, 2012, 6:07 am

        In his AIPAC speech Bibi introduced a man who had been saved by the heroic and altruistic action of Gentiles while they themselves were under Nazi pressure, then he went on to conclude that there will be Jew-haters in every generation, as there always has been, so Israel must always be treated by the world to a blank check to do what it wants to provide a safe haven for Jews forever more. Maybe the Palestinians should begin their own celebration and monuments to “Righteous Jews.” The test of virtue is power. Thus, the oppressed Palestinian people could celebrate the few Jewish exceptions to the rule of Jewish anti-goyism. A Palestinians version of Schindler’s List could be created.

      • Citizen on March 7, 2012, 7:38 am

        Bibi had a lot of chutzpah to stand, basically before the whole Western World when he stood there at AIPAC’s podium waving the 1944 letters, and said in effect, “You owe us, pay up! Bomb Iran!”

        Anybody can go on the internet and find out the context for Bibi’s historical justification for his stance. It would help, for example, if Bibi read Wikipedia just to get the flavor of the guilt he sought to establish to provoke war on Iran:

        Instead, to keep focused on his agenda, he takes out his two brief 1944 letter copies and dwells on how the goys have shown conclusively they don’t care about Jews, and never will, as his bible shows him too. He’s looking for an American Esther to kill the murderous Persians of antiquity and allow him to keep handling the restless natives of Palestine as he feels he needs to do (a la Joshua) so the Jews always have a safe haven–with a non-extradition policy. He thinks it’s immoral and unethical for Uncle Sam, his sugar Daddy, to not release Pollard to come home to be properly celebrated. He’s like a fat demented, vicious rat in control atop a red, white & blue attack elephant looking for peanuts. The red is not on his own flag.

      • Duscany on March 7, 2012, 6:55 pm

        “He’s like a fat demented, vicious rat in control atop a red, white & blue attack elephant looking for peanuts. ”

        I don’t think he’s that fat.

      • Pixel on March 8, 2012, 9:45 am

        An outstanding and very moving documentary on the subject can be watched here:

        The Danish Solution: The Rescue of the Jews of Denmark

  2. Bill in Maryland on March 6, 2012, 9:10 am

    Invoking the imagery of the holocaust to justify a first-strike attack on Iran (its regional competitor), when in fact Iran poses no existential threat to an Israel armed to its teeth with real nuclear weapons- when will an American leader stand up to this transparent manipulation!

    • seafoid on March 6, 2012, 9:34 am

      Israel has to grow up. Invoking the Holocaust over a regional power realignment is an insult to the millions of Jews who were murdered by the Nazis and their allies. The most appropriate way to honour their blessed memory is to fight for the human rights of everyone in the region, regardless of religion.

    • Citizen on March 7, 2012, 6:08 am

      Bill, Ron Paul has stood up–have you not noticed?

  3. Dan Crowther on March 6, 2012, 9:31 am

    Prove your love — by killing our “enemies” for “us”

    Why doesnt Bibi have this quote in a drawer somewhere?:

    “The emigration of Jews from the Soviet Union is not an objective of American foreign policy. And if they put Jews into gas chambers in the Soviet Union, it is not an American concern.” — Henry Kissinger

    There isn’t a single state planner/military strategist in the world, jewish or non-jewish that would have diverted big time resources during the bloodiest war ever, one that killed 70 million, to bomb auschwitz – and bibi knows it, and that is why it is indeed distasteful in the extreme to bring up the “mccloy letter” in this way.

    But, please – feel free to make this case publicly: “The greatest generation” are all a bunch of anti-semites. Let’s get Alan Dershowitz in a VFW making that pitch…..

    • marc b. on March 6, 2012, 9:51 am

      But, please – feel free to make this case publicly: “The greatest generation” are all a bunch of anti-semites. Let’s get Alan Dershowitz in a VFW making that pitch…..

      i’d pay good money to see that. but it’s not just bibi with this attitude. you see it in movies all the time, spielberg’s for one, the naively complicit americans, whether releasing germans to rape/murder jews during wwii, or american athletes helping ‘black september’ into the olympic compound.

      • Charon on March 6, 2012, 12:30 pm

        Collective national consciousness and guilt. Essentially blaming us for tragic events which happened before many of us were born. I can’t help but feel like Bibi is pointing a finger saying “you did this… you owe us”

        A few Ultra-Orthodox Rabbis were saying the war in Iraq was payback for Babylonian captivity. What’s the statute of limitations on national collective consciousness? Babylon hasn’t existed for thousands of years.

        The US is not the world’s police. The US doesn’t owe anybody anything. I take that back, it owes Iraq (along with many others) an apology. Israel constantly calling for the US to do their dirty work really is the tale wagging the dog.

      • American on March 6, 2012, 3:04 pm

        “I can’t help but feel like Bibi is pointing a finger saying “you did this… you owe us..Charon

        That is what he is saying. It’s a common refrain in zionist holocaust propaganda. That the entire world was responsible for the holocaust not just the nazis and their allies. And we let it happen because of historical anti semitism.

        It helps to have some perspective about WWII. It involved 70 nations, over 70 million armed forces, not including resistance movements, all of Europe, whole continents like Africa and Asia. It killed (that were recorded, according to NationMaster) 17 million soldiers, 22 million soviet civilians, 10 million Chinese civilians, unrecorded numbers of Japanese civilians in the A-bomb, and dozens million other civilians in Europe, Africa, Asia and Arabia caught in the conflict and/or of starvation in many countries.

        It says something about the kind of people that accuse the US or any of the allies of ignoring the Jews killed. I have often wondered why instead of accusing and blaming they don’t have any gratitude to the countries and populations that fought Hitler because if we hadn’t defeated him he would no doubt have wiped out all the Jews. WWII was about the fate of billions of people and whole continents.

        As Sherman said “War is hell.”

      • Daniel Rich on March 6, 2012, 6:37 pm

        @ American,

        The holocaust is long since dead. Time to bury it once and for all.

      • RoHa on March 6, 2012, 7:15 pm

        This stuff makes my blood boil!

        Something like 70 million people were killed. Millions more dying of disease and starvation. (Including soldiers in Japanese POW camps.) Millions more maimed. Cities reduced to rubble. Whole countries suffered armies sweeping back and forth. Europe was shattered. Much of Asia was devastated. They are still digging up landmines in North Africa.

        Britain was a financial ruin. (Millions in gold to the USA, millions more in turning over British owned companies, etc, in the US and Canada. Britain finally paid its war-debt in2006.
        All the resources of the Empire had been thrown into the war. The Soviet Union had to rebuild Western Russia, Belorussia, and Ukraine. The US poured millions into the war.

        But we get told they didn’t do enough for the Jews.

        And then Jews wonder why some of us are a little unsympathetic.

      • American on March 7, 2012, 12:21 am

        This will make your blood boil even more. Because these are the real facts. Written by a attorney and historical researcher who just happened to be a Jew himself and saw something at the Holocaust museum that he knew didn’t jive with the historical facts. So he wrote a book on it. Enjoy.
        “Saving the Jews”
        Robert Rosen – July 17, 2006

        This book was inspired by a visit to the Boston Holocaust Memorial near Quincy Market. My daughter, Ali, then a student at Phillips Academy, and I visited that Holocaust Memorial, and we read these words:
        “By late 1942, the United States and its Allies were aware of the death camps, but did nothing to destroy them.”
        I told Ali that this statement could not possibly be true. The United States was not even a belligerent in World War II until December 7, 1941 when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. How could we have saved the Jews of Europe in 1942?


        “The Holocaust Museum takes one of Kubowitzki’s numerous letters to John McCloy, assistant Secretary of War and enlarged it to make it appear that he was requesting the bombing of Auschwitz. Not True. This letter, the centerpiece of the Museum’s display on the bombing of Auschwitz, merely passed on a message from the Czechoslovakian government in exile and McCloy was well aware that Kubowitzki and the World Jewish Congress adamantly opposed the bombing of Auschwitz. View First Letter View Second Letter (I have written the Holocaust Museum about this blatant error, but have yet to hear back from their Chief Historian.)”


        Contrary to popular belief, and in the face of strict immigration quotas, both the leadership of the American Jewish community and the Roosevelt Administration were actively involved in trying to save as many Jews as they reasonably could prior to the outbreak of World War II in September 1939 and the fall of France in June, 1940.
        25% of all German Jews had fled from Germany between 1933 and 1937. In September 1939 the German Jewish population was 185,000 meaning 340,000 German Jews (65%) had fled prior to World War II. Of the 185,000 Jews in Austria in 1938, 126,000 had emigrated by 1940. (441)
        Between 1933 and 1942, 161,000 Jews came to the U.S.
        Between 1938-1940 half of all immigrants to the U.S. were Jews. [ I repeat, half of all immigrants…] The United States accepted about twice as many refugees as the rest of the world combined, 200,000 of 300,000. (442

        Also included in this are the facts on the St. Louis, the non nazi occupied countries where Roosevelt arranged to send them, 636 of the 900 survived the war, and the reasons for not bombing the camps and railroad tracks. You can view the original letters and documents exchanged at the link.
        So to all the lying ingrates who say the US did nothing to save the Jews– You owe us, we don’t owe you.
        You can pay up by shutting up and being very, very quiet in your Jewish State…that you also owe to America.

      • RoHa on March 7, 2012, 2:48 am

        Can’t be true, American. See my reply to Daniel Rich, above.

        (Incidentally, Australia was prepared to take 15,000 Jewish refugees, although only about 8,200 Jewish refugees got there before 1945. Britain took something like 90,000 in the 1930s. Around 7,000 more went to South Africa.)

      • Shingo on March 7, 2012, 2:58 am

        Great find American.

        So these letters, like Bibbi’s 3 thousand year old ring that he also keeps in his desk, are fake or at the very least, being misrepresented by him.

        This guy has to be one of the mist devious, cynical and disturbed people on the planet.

      • annie on March 7, 2012, 8:03 am

        these are excerpts from american’s link which include the links to the letters:

        A. Leon Kubowitzki, himself a refugee from Nazi-occupied Europe and head of the rescue department of the World Jewish Congress, wrote the director of the War Refugee Board, John Pehle, and underlined it for emphasis: View Letter ” The destruction of the death installations cannot be done by bombing from the air, as the first victims would be the Jews who are gathered in these camps, and such a bombing would be a welcome pretext for the Germans to assert that their Jewish victims have been massacred not by their killers, but by the allied bombings.”

        Despite erroneous assertions by many historians and the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, Jewish leaders overwhelmingly opposed the bombing of Auschwitz. Kubowitzki wrote to one Jewish leader, “I think you know that we are not in favor of the bombing of the extermination installations….Because we believe in hayei shaa [literally, “life of the hour,” meaning saving those currently living] and we are afraid for the Jewish victims of such bombings and giving the Germans an alibi.” View Letter

        The Holocaust Museum takes one of Kubowitzki’s numerous letters to John McCloy, assistant Secretary of War and enlarged it to make it appear that he was requesting the bombing of Auschwitz. Not True. This letter, the centerpiece of the Museum’s display on the bombing of Auschwitz, merely passed on a message from the Czechoslovakian government in exile and McCloy was well aware that Kubowitzki and the World Jewish Congress adamantly opposed the bombing of Auschwitz. View First Letter ….. View Second Letter (I have written the Holocaust Museum about this blatant error, but have yet to hear back from their Chief Historian.)

    • Citizen on March 7, 2012, 7:41 am

      I’m a US Army vet and I’ve never met a single veteran who’d not quickly experience feelings of deep repulsion rising up in himself with direct exposure to Dershie.

  4. jewishgoyim on March 6, 2012, 9:34 am

    There is no way Netanyahu believes this crap. He’s a sorry propagandist. What he doesn’t want is Israel being part of a community in the Middle East. The only acceptable situation is if each and every neighbors of Israel can be wiped off the map at will with absolutely no possibility of retaliation. Anything below this threshold is “Auschwitz”. He is the sociopathic mad man.

    • lysias on March 6, 2012, 10:14 am

      The Nazis too thought they were justified in doing just about anything to avoid what they considered an existential threat to themselves and their people. In their case, the existential threat that they imagined was Bolshevism.

      • Citizen on March 7, 2012, 6:23 am

        lysias, Bolshevism and race/ethnic pollution.

      • lysias on March 7, 2012, 11:36 am

        They identified the two.

  5. Chu on March 6, 2012, 9:35 am

    If I had to rate his speech, it deserves about a 3 out of 10. Dull, boorish, and completely uninspired, and the speaker was so overconfident in his actions, the words he spoke were plainly unconvincing. In general, it was a bad performance.

    I believe his demeanor throughout his speech will damage his likeability even amongst the faithful crowds at these AIPAC soirees. He showed us an ego that even the great hall couldn’t contain, the two body guards only reinforced that notion. The way he leaned on the podium and held those 2 letters aloft, revealed a sloppy and overconfident speaker. I will give him credit for begging for assistance without really needed to say it, as all the Congress know what he came for and will certainly appease AIPAC.

    Then the section about walking like a duck and quacking like a duck, and pushing the audience to engage in the final ‘it must be a duck’ was very tacky and strange for a supposed statesman. He seemed intoxicated with power. No one should support a man like this, in truth, because he is only a deluded beggar with nuclear weapons, pushing a foreign state to sacrifice their citizens for war. This isn’t about their survival, it’s about the Clean Break strategy that has been implemented decades ago.

    His real objective is to request the American war machine to do his bidding through his congressional proxies. If this is the type of speech that excites the Pro Israel crowd, they are a sad lot indeed.

    • Pixel on March 6, 2012, 11:03 pm


      He was really off his “game”. Distracted. Uninspired.

      Quite limited applause, except at one point, which only served to reinforce the fact that the rest was muted, and in some places sounded “polite.”

      Noting that over half the Congress was in attendance was a bad move. Worked in the past but Americans are waking up and they don’t like what they see.

      The musical piece played on his entrance and exit was mind-bending. (Seriously, was that playing in real time or was it dubbed over on the copy I saw?)

      It so evoked an image of Julius Caesar greeting the Roman Legions that I thought I could actually see his toga, sandals, and Palestinian Olive Leaves crown.

  6. Shmuel on March 6, 2012, 9:41 am

    “Some commentators would have you believe that stopping Iran from getting the bomb is more dangerous [than allowing Iran to get one.]”

    Damn straight:

    the difference is that there is now a Jewish state that will take action to save Jews and preserve the Jewish future

    Were there no Jewish state in Palestine (particularly one with a mad dog approach to diplomacy and security), the Iranians would not have posed a threat to “the Jewish future” and, arguably, wouldn’t have sought nuclear capability in the first place. Thanks for nothing, Israel. Thanks for nothing, Bibi.

    • Citizen on March 7, 2012, 6:30 am

      Shmuel, I cannot imagine an American politician or mainstream media employee standing up, grabbing a public mike, and stating the obvious, as you just did. Well, maybe Ralph Nader would, and Ron Paul has come more than a tad close. We need a wider lemon law.

  7. Woody Tanaka on March 6, 2012, 9:42 am

    Well, as much as I dispise Achmadinejad and the Iranian regime, I am more likely to trust them than Netanyahoo. That man is a certifiable paranoid lunatic. I have no doubt in my mind that he will commit genocide to quell the demons in his head.

    • dahoit on March 6, 2012, 12:14 pm

      Despise Achmadinejad?Do you know him personally,or is your attitude strictly Ziolearned?I saw him talk on TV,he seemed level headed,sane and a nice person,sort of DeNiro like in his speech and demeanor.

      • Woody Tanaka on March 6, 2012, 1:17 pm

        “Despise Achmadinejad?”


        “Do you know him personally,or is your attitude strictly Ziolearned?”


        “I saw him talk on TV,he seemed level headed,sane and a nice person,sort of DeNiro like in his speech and demeanor.”

        And I disagree.

      • Daniel Rich on March 6, 2012, 6:42 pm

        @ Woody Tanaka,

        In the dust of perceived conflicts only the blind see.

        Have you read Ahmadinejad’s [2006] letter to Bush? It’s here @

      • Woody Tanaka on March 6, 2012, 9:52 pm


        I have read it. Still despise him.

      • Daniel Rich on March 7, 2012, 1:15 am

        @ Woody Tanaka,

        OK. Fair enough.

      • Citizen on March 7, 2012, 6:43 am

        Why don’t you spell out why you despise Ahmadinejad, Woody? How does he compare to Bibi, or Obama, or any of the POTUS candidates?

      • Woody Tanaka on March 8, 2012, 10:57 am

        I despise him because I don’t believe that the policies which he and his government follow are progressive ones and, in many ways, are regressive, reactionary, and against the goal of civil rights for all people, which I favor. I find his religion-based governing philosophy to be repugnant.

        I don’t believe that a general comparison to those people is meaningful, because they all embody, to greater or lesser degrees, many of the criticisms that I have.

  8. Pixel on March 6, 2012, 10:07 am

    “You also refused to bomb Auschwitz.”

    He jumped the shark with this one.

    • eGuard on March 6, 2012, 10:54 am

      In August 1944, the Soviets could have thrown grenades to Auschwitz. wiki

      America could not save anything of Poland at that time.

  9. FreddyV on March 6, 2012, 10:51 am

    Now that’s just low………

    You’ve got to have a pretty strong stomach when it comes to this subject, but this is pure filth.

  10. piotr on March 6, 2012, 11:26 am

    This is insane. This is perspective “everything is about Jews”.

    The situation in August 1944 was complex, and US/Britain had a lot of considerations and constraints. Mind you, the postulated goal of bombing Auschwitz was not saving Jews, because it was basically too late, but “preventing of hiding of the crimes”. In the middle of extremely bloody battles calling for air support, that was not the highest priority.

    Also, it was not simple at all. 300 km further from American airports, at that very time, Poles allied with Americans and British had insurection in Warsaw against German, and British were dropping some supplies. But it was at the very end of the range and they could do very little of it. Stalin refused permission to use his airports. He view the insurrection as being as much anti-Communist as anti-German. At that time Soviets were fighting in eastern Poland and reaching the line of Vistula.

    So now you can picture the list of possible targets.
    a. aiding Anglo-American offensives in Italy and France
    b. aiding the Soviet offensive in Poland, and hitting Auschwitz
    c. aiding anti-Communist Poles in Warsaw

    Clearly, a. would get at least 90% of flights. How to prioritize between b and c?

    • Daniel Rich on March 6, 2012, 6:45 pm

      @ Piotr,

      What happened to the Polish ‘cabinet in exile’ that came back after WWII? Find the answer and you’ll know how much everything about WWII stinks into the high heavens. 55 million reasons to never repeat it ever again.

      • piotr on March 8, 2012, 6:02 pm

        Are you talking about Mikolajczyk? There was no “return of the cabinet in exile”.

    • Citizen on March 7, 2012, 7:46 am

      Many Jewish American and Zionist leaders nixed bombing places like Auschwitz as they feared if the Germans were held to account, they’d blame the mass Jewish deaths on Allied bombs.

    • lysias on March 8, 2012, 7:16 pm

      The strategic bombing of German cities had resumed in late July 1944, after the Battle of Normandy had been decided.

      V-1’s started to hit England in July 1944, and their launch sites had to be attacked. (V-2’s began to be launched in early September.)

  11. tombishop on March 6, 2012, 11:52 am

    “By conjuring the Holocaust, Netanyahu brought Israel closer to war with Iran”
    Haaretz’s editor-in-chief says that the Prime Minister publically booby-trapped himself to war with Iran by comparing the need to strike its nuclear program with the Jewish request to bomb Auschwitz.

    • ToivoS on March 6, 2012, 4:07 pm

      This Haaretz piece is quite good. Not much to add. He has either talked himself into war or will go down in history as a bombastic fool.

  12. Howard on March 6, 2012, 11:52 am

    From John J. McCloy, Assistant Secretary of War: “…There has been considerable opinion to the effect that such an effort, even if practicable, might provoke even more vindictive action by the Germans.”

    In today’s terms the Germans might extract a “price tag” against their concentration camp inmates.

    • Fredblogs on March 6, 2012, 2:13 pm

      LOL, what were they going to do? Kill them twice?

      • Mooser on March 6, 2012, 10:31 pm

        “LOL, what were they going to do? Kill them twice?”

        You tell ’em! Israel sticks firmly to the ethical course, and the one advocated by the Talmud.
        They only kill Palestinians once, then leave them alone. The Nazis never had that kind of compassion for their victims.

      • Chaos4700 on March 7, 2012, 8:46 am

        LOL! Or what, kill them, then dig up the graves of their ancestors and put up a “museum of tolerance?” Oh wait, I’m all mixed up again on who I’m talking about, aren’t I?

      • Hostage on March 7, 2012, 10:46 am

        LOL, what were they going to do? Kill them twice?

        I’m pretty certain Netanboohoo would have produced a pair of letters complaining that the Allies bombed and killed the Jews at Auschwitz if the occasion had called for such a thing. This is all pretty shameless political theater.

        The German concentration camps weren’t much different from the ones established during the Spanish civil war, or by the British in Palestine. People died slowly as a result of starvation, torture, slave labor, overcrowding, lack of medical care and disease. Any Allied bombing would have killed many of the internees and it would have given the Germans an excuse to execute the remaining prisoners who posed a flight risk. See for example, the American “dead zones” that were established around US concentration camps during our own Philippine–American War

        So yes, the German’s could have responded with more summary executions or by imposing worse conditions that would have killed-off the prisoners engaged in slave labor more quickly. Bombing crematoriums used to destroy evidence of war crimes really shouldn’t have been a war time priority and the gas chambers and concentration camps were hardly the only methods of mass extermination employed against the Jews during the war. Netanyahu was simply playing the blame game of damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

  13. Egbert on March 6, 2012, 12:01 pm

    He’s just repeating the methodology of “the recent ultra-Orthodox rallies in Jerusalem which mimicked and exploited iconic Holocaust imagery to protest “an effort by secular Israelis to roll back gender segregation on some bus lines and in certain neighborhoods”

  14. Charon on March 6, 2012, 12:16 pm

    Poor analogy. There is a fairly large population of Persian Jews living safely in Iran. Their population figures are consistently deflated to make it look as if their numbers are even lower than there are. There are more Jews in Iran than Zoroastrianists.

    • Citizen on March 7, 2012, 7:57 am

      So far, Iran’s jews don’t show any indication they’d like to leave Iran to live in Israel. They have assigned seats in Iran’s governing body. They are protected by law, in contrast to the Bahi (sic) religious people of Iran who are officially discriminated against.

      • Fredblogs on March 8, 2012, 2:18 pm

        “Sic” means “thus”. It means “I know what I am writing is a mistake, but it was a mistake originally made by someone I am faithfully quoting, including this mistake. It is not a mistake by me.”

        “Sic” is not a fancy way of writing “(sp?)”.

      • Hostage on March 8, 2012, 4:08 pm

        “Sic” is not a fancy way of writing “(sp?)”.

        I thought that he was implying that it isn’t correct to pigeon-hole people as being Bahi.

      • Mooser on March 8, 2012, 6:53 pm

        Aw c’mon Ferdlogs! We all know how much smarter you are than us, how much better educated, not to mention being an expert on, on… well… everything, isn’t it? We all accept the reason for it, too.
        Anyway, there’s no reason to rub it in.

      • Fredblogs on March 9, 2012, 2:44 pm

        I’m not rubbing anything in. I just figured he would prefer to be told how to use it rather than risk using it wrong in some professional context. As for the sp? remark, I assumed that he was going for “Baha’i” but wasn’t sure how to spell it.

        Do you just assume that anyone who disagrees with you is so evil that anything he does is for evil motives?

      • Woody Tanaka on March 9, 2012, 2:54 pm

        “Do you just assume that anyone who disagrees with you is so evil that anything he does is for evil motives?”

        Where did Mooser accuse you of acting out of evil motives?? Do you just assume that anyone who criticizes you does so because he thinks you’re evil and are doing so for evil motives?

      • Hostage on March 9, 2012, 5:35 pm

        I assumed that he was going for “Baha’i” but wasn’t sure how to spell it.

        It’s a transliteration of بهائی So its no big deal.

  15. DICKERSON3870 on March 6, 2012, 12:48 pm

    RE: “We must ask ourselves, What are Netanyahu’s real aims? Is he trivializing the Holocaust for political ends…” ~ Weiss

    SEE: Israel’s Defense Chief OK’s Hundreds of Israeli Deaths, By Ira Chernus,, 11/11/11

    (excerpt). . . An essential motive of Zionism from its beginning was a fierce desire to end the centuries of Jewish weakness, to show the world that Jews would no longer be pushed around, that they’d fight back and prove themselves tougher than their enemies. There was more to Zionism than that. But the “pride through strength” piece came to dominate the whole project. Hence the massive Israeli military machine with its nuclear arsenal.
    But you can’t prove that you’re stronger than your enemies unless you’ve also got enemies — or at least believe you’ve got enemies — to fight against. So there has to be a myth of Israel’s insecurity, fueled by an image of vicious anti-semites lurking somewhere out there, for Zionism to work. Since the 1979 Iranian revolution, Iran has gradually risen to the top of Israel oh-so-necessary enemies list. Iranophobia is rampant in Israel, as one Israeli scholar writes, because “Israel needs an existential threat.”
    Anyone who has grown up in Israel, or in the U.S. Jewish community (as I did), and paid attention knows all this…


    ALSO SEE – Iranophobia: The Panic of the Hegemons, by Ira Chernus, Tikkun Magazine, November/December 2010
    LINK –

    P.S. INTRODUCING MY NEW AVATAR, “NUTTYYAHOO” by “DonkeyHotey” (JPEG) –,r:0,s:0&tx=53&ty=60

  16. yourstruly on March 6, 2012, 1:02 pm

    hasn’t netanyahu been told
    that israel isn’t, has never been
    the light unto american jewry
    for all we’re concerned
    israel (not its people) could cease to exist
    disappear from the pages of time
    still we’d continue to thrive and prosper
    cause we’re fully planted
    at home

  17. Sin Nombre on March 6, 2012, 1:19 pm

    It’s funny how a meme that’s heard before—”you Christians failed to save us!”—gains a certain credence just by having been heard before and repeated.

    In that vein then, but really just somewhat the exact opposite of what Netanyahu is saying, given the huge over-representation of jews in the Bolshevik ranks and especially in the Bolshevik secret police why would it be “wrong” for the Christian peasants and all the lesser-numbered ethnics who were under Stalin’s thumb such as during the Holomodor say “you jews failed to save us!” ?

    (Or indeed just ask “how come you were so helpful to Stalin killing us?”)

  18. American on March 6, 2012, 2:15 pm

    Well I won’t bother to debunk the claim that America had any responsibility for Jewish deaths by deliberately doing or not doing something. It’s been debunked a hundred times already.

    My only response to Netanyahu and AIPAC would be – shove it.

  19. eGuard on March 6, 2012, 2:17 pm

    Come to think of it, what exactly did the ADL do in these years?

    • Walid on March 7, 2012, 5:10 am

      “Come to think of it, what exactly did the ADL do in these (WW II) years?

      eGuard, it depends on which version of history is recounted by the ADL itself and by anti-ADL sites. The ADL says they worked against the communists while anti-ADL sites say that the ADL actually helped USSR spies infiltrate government positions. The ADL claimed to be against the famous witch hunts while on its site it claims that ” During this decade, ADL began its major fact-finding operation and began accumulating its famous storehouse of accurate, detailed, unassailable information on extremist individuals and organizations. ADL expanded its staff and began to monitor and investigate the rapidly multiplying fascist groups in the U.S. ”

      The other guys said it was covering up for Soviet spies.

      ADL’s site:

  20. tombishop on March 6, 2012, 2:59 pm

    “As Netanyahu pushes for war, Israel starts to balk”
    The prime minister has cowed Washington on Iran but he hasn’t convinced his own people

  21. optimax on March 6, 2012, 3:50 pm

    If we had bombed Aushwitz, considering the inaccuracy of arial bombing in WWII, Netanyhu would today be accusing the allies of having intentionally murdered thousands of jews. The old guilt trip is wearing thin and displaying the corpses of your ancestors for personal empowerment is pathetic–neolithic, really. Winning the war stopped the holocaust but concentrating on ending the holocaust would not have shortened the war.

  22. atime forpeace on March 6, 2012, 5:45 pm

    Netanyahoo is the one who is pulling out the old documents we ought to be allowed to also present other documents from the past.

  23. Daniel Rich on March 6, 2012, 6:31 pm

    See Daniel Rich’s law [click on my name and scroll down a bit]. Bibi should’ve said ‘Bomb IG Farben.’ See

  24. Shingo on March 6, 2012, 6:41 pm

    “Amazingly, some people refuse to acknowledge that Iran’s goal is to develop nuclear weapons. You see, Iran claims that it’s enriching uranium to develop medical research. Yeah– right,”

    Including your own intelligence agencies douche bag. Truly amazing.

  25. atime forpeace on March 6, 2012, 6:46 pm

    Hey Phil look at it in this way, is Netanyahoo allowed to foment anti goyism?

    Apparently so, because his remarks offend the hell out of me by trying to place blame for the holocaust on us here in the united states.

    Netanyahoo should not be allowed to stand alone and represent his side without having a countering point of view on the other side, much like the neocons demanded of Jimmy Carter when he tried to speak at Brandeis.

    You’re a sensitive sensible fellow, liberal and all those nice things, then be considerate of me and allow me to counter post Netanyahoos libel against me as an american.

    What’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

  26. Mooser on March 6, 2012, 7:12 pm

    “You also refused to bomb Auschwitz”

    Just wait until my wife starts on me about the credit card bill! (I went to Guitar Center) I’ll put her in her place, pronto!

  27. optimax on March 6, 2012, 7:35 pm

    Benjiman’s father Benzion Netanyahu did not even fight in WWII even though he was going to school in the US. Quote from wiki at Benzion Netanyahu:

    “During World War II, he was one of the Revisionist movement’s leaders in the U.S. At the same time he pursued his PhD at Dropsie College in Philadelphia, writing his dissertation on Isaac Abrabanel.”

    Looks like Bennie is trying to make up for the fact his father was a chickenshit who sat out the war waiting for for the rest of the world to save his ethnic brothers and sisters.

    • Pixel on March 6, 2012, 11:19 pm

      I honestly believe that much of his psychopathic rage is related to the death of his older brother, Yonatan.

      • Pixel on March 6, 2012, 11:38 pm

        … at Entebbe in 1976.

        “Five Israeli commandos were wounded and one, the commander, Lt. Col. Yonatan Netanyahu,” (wikp)

      • moonkoon on March 7, 2012, 6:46 am

        If this report from 2007 is to be believed, the Entebbe incident (in which Bibi’s brother was the sole Israeli fatality and on which the Israeli security industry has since relied to demonstrate its “moral clarity”), was actually instigated by Shin Bet.

        U.K. file on Entebbe contains claim that Israel behind hijacking
        By Haaretz Service
        Newly released British documents contain a claim by an unnamed contact that the Shin Bet security service collaborated with the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine to hijack the June 1976 flight from Israel that was diverted to Entebbe, Uganda, the BBC reported Friday. …
        … “My contact said the PFLP had attracted all sorts of wild elements, some of whom had been planted by the Israelis,” Colvin reportedly wrote. “According to his information, the hijack was the work of the PFLP, with help from the Israeli Secret Service, the Shin Beit.” …

        In matters involving the security of one’s existence, the convenience of having the “enemy” on one’s own side is an advantage that is hard to top. There’s probably a lesson or two in there somewhere about what Israel might get up to in its latest effort to demonstrate its shadow boxing prowess. :-)

      • annie on March 7, 2012, 7:33 am

        the file was from 1976, released in 2007. here is the bbc report:


        “The operation was designed to torpedo the PLO’s standing in France and to prevent what they see as a growing rapprochement between the PLO and the Americans.”


        The documents also reveal that the British government debated whether or not to praise the Israeli raid after its completion.

        It was decided in the days after the raid that it was not clear whether the Israeli offensive was justified under international law.

        One document in the file reads: “The Israelis have been critical of the fact that the prime minister did not send a personal message of congratulations to Mr Rabin and that our public statement fell short of endorsement of the Israeli action at Entebbe.”

  28. atime forpeace on March 6, 2012, 7:40 pm

    How does this feel Phil? are you taking an online course in sensoring to see if you could ever get as good as aipac? at least they send out notes, you just delete into the ether-sphere.

    “With the conference slated to start on Sunday, I got a curt note on Wednesday, simply stating: “Thank you for your interest in attending this year’s AIPAC Policy Conference as a member of the press. However, press credentials for the conference will not be issued to you. We regret any inconvenience this may have caused.”

    It came from someone named Sarah Coopersmith at Scott Circle Communications, a firm AIPAC contracted with to handle the press logistics. The email wasn’t even signed.

    Inquiries to both Coopersmith and AIPAC’s new press officer, Adam Harris brought no response. Ari Goldberg, despite having left AIPAC, did respond to me, expressing surprise and the hope that this was just a mistake.

    To say this is highly unusual behavior would be an understatement. And I wasn’t the only one this happened to.
    Philip Weiss of Mondoweiss, who had been credentialed the past three years without incident, and Adele Stan, the Washington Bureau Chief at AlterNet were also rejected without explanation. As I understand it, Phil and Adele were rejected outright. In my case, I was given media access and then had it revoked”.

    You are learning from the best.

    Jestfully frustrated, your humble admirer to some degree obviously.

  29. Shingo on March 6, 2012, 8:20 pm

    Then Netanyahu got out copies of two letters he said he keeps in his desk..

    Has anyone noticed how every time Netenyhu wants to make a political point, he conveniently has something in his desk to act as a prop?

    • philweiss on March 6, 2012, 9:29 pm

      bingo. the ring too. he might as well say, cracker jack box

    • Woody Tanaka on March 6, 2012, 9:46 pm

      You know how many clowns they stuff in their cars, just imagine how many props a clown like Netanyahoo can stuff in his desk!

  30. Keith on March 6, 2012, 9:37 pm

    The rather obvious way to insure that Iran doesn’t develop nuclear weapons is to establish the Middle East as a nuclear weapons free area. This is something Iran and most of the rest of the world supports, but which is opposed by US/Israel.

  31. Blake on March 6, 2012, 9:59 pm

    Wonder which drama school he went to. Awful, lame and repulsive.

  32. justsayin on March 6, 2012, 10:35 pm

    for all thats known the usa is mixed up in this satyre of bb, for the reason of oil.
    I could not think the “W” agenda has ever been off the table.
    whats so worrying were all the applause in the aipac meeting with all the misinformation, bb should win an oscar for shoveling the most bs with a straight face.
    Iam sure as I am sitting here the usa is already invovled in iran events & syria, i remember the phoney iran events with the “so called” revolution. WAG THE DOG,
    but even so, there are innocent people being slaughtered. God if you are there, would you please think twice about the “free will” next time. too much suffering & monsanto “roundup ready pesticide” in all the food. What ever happened to killing them with kindness, & love?

  33. justsayin on March 6, 2012, 10:39 pm

    maybe there is hope after all the new planets have been found for humans to live.
    Lets pool all the money together, put all peace lovers & do gooders we can find, and go start over. The resources here will run out so hopefully the evil poop will not follow.

  34. Taxi on March 7, 2012, 1:28 am

    It was like watching a B movie about some weird cult where the leader employs a 3rd grade show-and-tell technique to get applause from his cool-aid drinking minions.

    Bibi shoulda said: ‘To stop Iran’s nuke program, we will even sacrifice tel aviv’. Then he shoulda showed them photoshopped images of tel aviv after an iranian retaliation. You’d better believe he’s got a file of those images in his bottomless desk drawer.

    Images of a destroyed tel aviv may have sobered up everyone in the room, except of course for our 150+ congressmen/women attending.

    It’s just unbelievable that a country that’s publicly said they’re short on fire hoses, is prepared to start ww3 in their (stolen) front and back yard. Not even Saddam Hussein was this criminally insane.

    • Mooser on March 8, 2012, 9:06 pm

      “Not even Saddam Hussein was this criminally insane.”

      Thanks! That’s the name I was trying to think of! I’ve been walking around wondering where we could find an ally who was willing to go to war with Iran, to keep Iran occupied. Iraq! of course! Is this Saddam Hussein guy still around? He took his country into a war with Iraq, and made many sacrifices to keep Iran in trouble and pinned down. Maybe the US should restore him to “ally” status, and sic him on the Iranians again.

  35. Proton Soup on March 7, 2012, 4:14 am

    Maybe you’ve also heard of Rabbi Weissmandel? According to him, the Zionists just sold them out. More or less, they were to be human sacrifices to secure the Zionist state.

    During the Kasztner case, Menachem Bader of the Jewish Agency was asked ‘Did you receive this letter from Rabbi Weissmandel?” He answered: “Letters like this came to us every day”. Weissmandel later published the following letter, which is a literal translation of the letter the Jewish Rescue Committee in Czechoslovakia received from the Zionist “Jewish” Agency Executive Offices in Switzerland. This was in reply to the call of the Jewish Rescue Committee for help, with documentary evidence furnished, concerning the fate of millions of Jewish people in Nazi occupied Europe.

    “We are writing to remind you of the one factor of which you must never lose sight: that ultimately, the Allies will win the war. After their victory, territorial boundaries will be reshaped as they were after the First World War. Then, the way will be clear for our purpose at this time, with the war drawing to a close, we must do everything in our power to change Eretz Yisrael to Medinat Yisrael and many steps have already been taken in this regard. Therefore, we must turn a deaf ear to the pleas and cries emanating from Eastern Europe. Remember this: all the allies have suffered many losses, and if we also do not offer human sacrifices, how can we gain the right to sit at the conference table when the territorial boundaries are reshaped? Accordingly, it is foolhardy and brazen for us to negotiate in terms of money or supplies in exchange for Jewish lives. How dare we ask of the allied powers to barter money for lives while they are sustaining heavy casualties daily? So, insofar as the masses are concerned: RAK B’DAM TIHJE LANU HAAREZ, (Eretz Yisroel will be ours only by paying with blood), but as far as our immediate circle is concerned, ATEM TAJLU. The messenger bearing this letter will supply you with funds for this purpose”.

    Even at $2/head, you couldn’t get the Zionists to open their wallets and buy the freedom of Jews.

    So, yes, many of these deaths were a conscious decision. Lives could have been saved, but the founders of Israel were determined that would not happen. Seems to have paid off, and then some.

  36. Erasmus on March 7, 2012, 5:52 am

    Netanyahu = BEWARE of the new 21cy MOSES and Prophet of Doom not Freedom!!
    ” As prime Minister of Israel, I will never allow my people to live in the shadow of annihilation,”
    NTY Speech AIPAC Conference 05Mar12.
    I rather prefer the historicalized original – he asked for Freedom from Slavery and succeeded, so the story goes: “Let my people go.!”
    The 21cy Moses, aka Netanyahu, demands a green light for war on Iran, and this might well lead exactly there: not in the shadow of, but straight into – if not annihilation – a human catastrophy for Jews and Arabs alike, in the entire region of the ME and beyond.
    The comparison of Ausschwitz with a yet not nuclear-armed Iran is detesting, and little else than sowing and augmenting fear on which he thrives politically and nourishes his blown up ego. The danger is: he – and with him Israel – may reap what he is sowing.
    Was there no other lesson to be learnt from the Holocaust?
    What about trying bona-fide cooperation with neighbours, end of occupation and gross HR violations? To name just a few alternatives which have not been tried yet.
    We would definitely love to welcome Israel back in the community of civilized nations. With open arms.

  37. Elisabeth on March 7, 2012, 11:29 am

    Does he keep these two letters in the same desk as where he keeps the ancient seal with the name Netanyahu? (One of his ‘ancestors’, before they changed their name to Milikovski.)
    What a manipulator of the past this man is.

  38. PilgrimSoul on March 7, 2012, 1:54 pm

    Victimology is a psychological continuum that arises when people build their emotional and communal lives around victim status. It is the dominant psychological system in Israel and is likewise promoted by US proxies, and is reinforced by the Israeli state through constant reiteration of the Holocaust, as well as not-so-subtle hints that a new Holocaust might happen. People under its influence talk like true believers, but their motivation is emotional rather than ideological. Victimology usually begins as a method for handling trauma, but evolves into a highly dysfunctional system in both the human personality and the culture of a nation; as a national phenomenon it is likely to lead to endless, reckless military and diplomatic adventures and ultimately national and personal implosion.

    So Serbian nationalists were able to use victim status in the service of the Bosnian genocide, so the IRA was able to use to it murder innocent victims of terrorism, and so Likudnik Zionism will use it to kick off another war in the Middle East, and perhaps finally the worldwide religious war the neo-cons have always advocated.

    People driven by victimology provoke or invent conflict, not to win the conflict but rather to lose it, thereby proving to the world their enduring victim status. Being defeated does not stop such people, since they define success as remaining a victim while creating as much violence and aggression as possible. Losing a conflict simply renews that person’s connection to victim status as they wait for the next opportunity to generate conflict.

    • lysias on March 9, 2012, 3:29 pm

      That victim complex has led to genocide on a number of occasions. It was because the Germans thought of themselves as victims that they brought Hitler to power and then supported him. Similarly, the Young Turk government was able to launch and carry out the genocide of Armenians (and Assyrian Christians) because most Turks thought of themselves as victims, after Muslims had been driven out of so many provinces the Ottoman Empire had lost to Christians.

  39. optimax on March 7, 2012, 8:15 pm

    This link is to the next page on the PBS site Phil links to at the top and it explains to the War Refugee Board why bombing Auschwitz was not practicable:

    Netanyahu’s attempt to blame the US in part for the holocaust for not bombing the death camps has not been reported in hte MSM. When some Japanese official insinuated the US acted immorally by dropping the A-bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the MSM became inflamed with self-rightous outrage at Japan even questioning our intentions, though targeting civilians had before WWII been considered an unjustified act of war. But not a peep about Bibi insulting the Greatest Generation with cherry picked evidence. To anyone aware of how propaganda works, it’s just another signal as to who controls the MSM in our country.

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