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March of the flags, ”Jerusalem Day”, East Jerusalem, 20.05.2012 (Photo: Activestills)

The Jerusalem day march is more appropriately also called “the march of flags”, and that’s exactly what I witnessed last Sunday when thousands of Israeli flags swept the streets of the old city of Jerusalem. Flags represent national identity, independence and sovereignty. For those who are still fighting for their freedom and rights flags represent the hope that these will be achieved, and they represent victory for those who have achieved it. The thousands of Israeli flags that stormed East Jerusalem were a clear message: we are the sovereigns here, we own this land, we can place our flags here – The whole of Jerusalem is ours!

Thousands of flags closed down the entire old city of Jerusalem, the main Palestinian market in Jerusalem, and several more neighborhoods in East Jerusalem that the march did not even go through. All the roads in East Jerusalem surrounding the old city from north, east and south were closed down — not to allow the flag bearers to march, but to prevent Palestinians from walking in their streets. 

A couple hundreds of Palestinians and a hand full of Israeli activists tried to stage a counter demonstration. We were determined to say “No, this is not Israel, it’s Palestine, the people who live here are Palestinians. The streets, the shops, the cars, and the people that were all closed down and invisible for the marchers – they are all here, you must see them!” We were fenced in across the street from the Damascus gate, “allowed” by the police to protest as long as we stayed inside our cage. No one could see us, while small settler groups ahead of the march are dancing on the streets, blocking them and waiving their blue and white flags with no interference. An old lady outside our cage, but safe on the side walk was pushed back by police again and again until they formed a line isolating her from the rest of us, then grabbed her and pushed her into a police car – the first arrest of many that day. 

The settlers were still dancing with their flags, while the Palestinian protest desperately tried to raise their flags high enough to be seen through the line of police that seemed to be the buffer between the two protests: the blue and white protest and the red, green, black and white one. The only problem is, the uniforms of that “neutral buffer” carried a small white and blue flag – just to remind us to make no mistake and remember who’s side the police is. The second arrest was minutes later when the border police stormed into our caged protest, running after a crowd running away from them. They caught one Palestinian youth who’s main crime was that he ran from them, but just not fast enough. It was the second arrest of the day, and more importantly the running crowd was dispersed and the police blocked the way back. 

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An Israeli border policeman chases a young Palestinian boy. (Photo: Activestills)

Not only the activists, but all Palestinians on the street were shoved farther and farther back the closer the settler march came, not to be seen, not to be heard. Farther up the road, a Palestinian kid, in a bright pink shirt, was waiving his flag on the wrong side of the police line, when a settler snatched it from him. It is amazing how unbearable the wrong color flag is in a march known as the march of flags. The kid, probably around 10 years old, tried to grab his flag back. Suddenly the child and a border police man chasing him are running towards me at such a speed no one understood what happened. The border police man reached for the boy, tried to grab him, the boy fell to the ground. The policeman tried to grab him again and kick him on the floor at the same time, with such fire in his eyes, such hate for a 10-year-old boy in a pink shirt that had the courage to fight for his flag among all these other flags.

I happened to be in the right place at the right time to block the policeman as he tried to attack the boy, and the boy managed somehow to get up and run away, but the joy of that moment didn’t last. A red crescent volunteer was grabbed instead of the boy, and one of the policeman accused him of standing in the way of the policeman chasing the boy, as if that’s a crime. And the flag? I can only guess it was thrown into the closest trash can, if not kept by that settler as a memory of his victory: he took the boy’s streets, his city, and now his flag.

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Mounted police violently disperse the vigil
near the Damascus Gate. (Photo: Activestills)

A short while later, police galloped their horses into the remaining crowed, and I found myself holding on to another Palestinian flag, held on the one side by an activist from Sheikh Jarrah, and on the other side by a group of policeman trying to pull the Palestinian flag from his hands. I could hear the activist saying, “I’m leaving, I’m going back, just give me the flag!”

They won, the activist was beaten, the flag broken and all of us pushed farther and farther back up the road until we could see no white and blue flags, and more importantly, none of them could see us. The Israeli flags stormed the empty old city, chanting “death to the Arabs”, “Mohammed is dead”, “may the temple be build and the mosque burned”, and all the while they were waving their flags.

In the main closing event of the march, at the Wailing Wall, I heard a man speaking on stage, he was saying: “This is not only a day to show our  sovereignty and rights on the whole of Jerusalem, but also on Hebron, and Nablus, and Jerico, and Jenin…” It became clear, this day was not about Jews marching to the wailing wall, nor was it about the “reunification” of Jerusalem. This day was about waiving the Israeli flag in the faces of the Palestinian residents of this land and telling them, we will chase you down every street in the entire land until you never dare to raise your flag again.

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Photos posted on Facebook of Vardi intervening in the arrest
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Sahar Vardi

Sahar Vardi is the Israel program coordinator for the American Friends Service Committee, as well as a member of Hamushim campaign, an Israeli campaign to highlight the true cost of the military industries.

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  1. Shmuel on May 22, 2012, 10:19 am

    Thanks, Sahar. Israel’s very own Orange Walk (Blue Walk?).

  2. Citizen on May 22, 2012, 10:21 am

    A sea of flags; where have we seen this sort of thing before?

    • Woody Tanaka on May 22, 2012, 10:48 am

      How do you say Die Fahne hoche in Hebrew?

    • Fredblogs on May 22, 2012, 1:26 pm

      4th of July celebration in the U.S.?

      http://www.dallasphelps.com/events/images/530/530Flags.jpg

      • optimax on May 22, 2012, 5:12 pm

        In Texas v. Johnson SCOTUS ruled that burning the American flag is a right protected by the First Amendment. What does Israel’s constitution say on the the rights of its citizens? Oh that’s right, Israel doesn’t have a constitution! How can you call a country which is afraid to guarantee the rights of all its citizens in a legal document a democracy?

        And, yes, I am aware our rights are being eroded, and that concerns me more than the continued existence of some crappy little country.

      • Fredblogs on May 23, 2012, 12:03 pm

        Straw man. Like Great Britain, Israel does not have a single specific Constitution. It does have Basic Laws that serve the same purpose.

      • Citizen on May 22, 2012, 6:37 pm

        Origin of the Israeli flag: http://globalfire.tv/nj/05en/history/star_david.htm

        Atzmon, asks, “What is this religious symbol doing on the military weapons of the state of Israel?”
        Odd guy that he is (as somebody who thinks of himself as a humanist first and foremost), Atzmon thinks it’s reasonable to ask what the shield of David is doing, let alone Jewish prayer shawl colors, e.g., on Israeli Air Force jets (paid for by 98% goy Americans)?

        A similar question would be prompted if the USA had a cross decal on the sides and wings of its own (self-paid for) F-16s.

      • lysias on May 23, 2012, 10:17 am

        The Crusaders wore crosses on their breastplates. I guess Israel really is the new Crusader state.

      • Djinn on May 22, 2012, 11:34 pm

        I guessed I missed all those 4th of July events where any mention/depiction of the indigenous population was met by force by the police and all the participats shouted “death to the Navajo”

      • Fredblogs on May 23, 2012, 12:06 pm

        They gave up the “death to the local native tribe” chants a little while after the time the local native tribes stopped killing the American settlers. So when the Palestinians knock off the terrorism, I expect the “death to Arabs” nonsense to stop as well.

      • pjdude on May 23, 2012, 1:43 pm

        um its was the settlers in both cases starting violence. deatbh to arabs will never stop because Israel is rascist to the core.

      • justicewillprevail on May 23, 2012, 1:58 pm

        How naive are you? What a senseless comment. Maybe when Israel knocks off the terrorism and the propaganda some people might start thinking about their racist attitudes. But I doubt it.

  3. Woody Tanaka on May 22, 2012, 10:28 am

    I didn’t like this movie the first time, when it was called Triumph des Willens. They changed a few things in this reboot: the flags have changed colors and the symbol in middle was altered a little. But it seems that they kept large parts of the plot pretty much the same. (Including the part where the semitic minority is beated by the government.)

  4. annie on May 22, 2012, 10:37 am

    thank you Sahar Vardi !

  5. yourstruly on May 22, 2012, 10:52 am

    one thing for sure is that once palestine is free these israeli fascists should be denied entry to the u.s. of a. after all it’s not as if there aren’t enough homegrown fascists already here. perhaps post-liberation palestinians can set up rehabilitation centers for the treatment of israeli jews afflicted with hatred against anyone who isn’t a jewish nationalist.

  6. seafoid on May 22, 2012, 11:23 am

    Nice getaway by the kid.

    “This is not only a day to show our sovereignty and rights on the whole of Jerusalem, but also on Hebron, and Nablus, and Jerico, and Jenin2

    I believe the technical term is “pyrrhic victory”

    Half of the people in Erez Israel are Palestinian, FFS. The flags are meaningless. Zionism is at its most fundamental a refusal to engage with reality. Well done to the boy for bringing reality back to the picture.

  7. bintbiba on May 22, 2012, 11:27 am

    SAHAR, THANK YOU . You are a hero.

  8. Fredblogs on May 22, 2012, 11:51 am

    Since you bring it up, interfering with the police _is_ a crime in every country I’ve ever heard of. So is assaulting a police officer. What country is going to make it legal to get in the way of and push the police?

    Unfortunate that they made a mistake and arrested the wrong person for interfering though. You should probably go in and confess to get that red crescent volunteer out of trouble.

    Have to disagree with the chanters on the Temple though, assuming there is a God and He wants it rebuilt, He’ll let us know when.

    • seafoid on May 22, 2012, 12:13 pm

      Sure Fred. Where was He between CE 70 and 1948 ?

      • Fredblogs on May 22, 2012, 12:32 pm

        You’d have to ask Him. If he answers, though, odds are you are crazy.

      • seafoid on May 22, 2012, 3:04 pm

        Fred

        After 1941-45 and what the Germans did it is clear there was never anyone in the sky who chose any people.

      • Citizen on May 22, 2012, 6:44 pm

        seafoid, some think that God’s grand design was in Germany’s 1941-45, as a precondition to 1948 Israel. Would there have been an allowed state of Israel in 1948 sans Nazi Germany? Go chat, have coffee, talk amongst yourselves.

        PS, while chatting, bring up that Adolph thought he was instructed by God.

    • justicewillprevail on May 22, 2012, 12:20 pm

      Never lose a chance to defend the militia, do you. What was the offence? Holding a Palestinian flag – yeah, those 10 year olds, real criminals for doing that – as we know Israel locks up kids without trial, just to punish them and their parents. Where is your defence that this is normal in every country? Interfering with/assaulting kids is a crime in every country, whether by police or anyone. Not that you care.

      • Fredblogs on May 22, 2012, 12:31 pm

        Some free advice, if a policeman is chasing someone don’t interfere. Regardless of what that person did, interfering with the police is a crime. I’m shocked that this site would support letting an innocent red crescent volunteer go down for someone else’s crime.

      • philweiss on May 22, 2012, 2:09 pm

        you sound like my grandparents, who heard kitty genovese’s screams. they lived on austin st in queens. dont get involved.

      • Woody Tanaka on May 22, 2012, 2:23 pm

        “Some free advice, if a policeman is chasing someone don’t interfere. ”

        Exactly. Never interfere with the police. For example, if the police come looking for the Jews you’re hiding in the basement or up in the Secret Annex in the bulding in Amsterdam, don’t interfere. Tell the police exactly where they’re hidden.

      • Woody Tanaka on May 22, 2012, 2:28 pm

        “I’m shocked that this site would support letting an innocent red crescent volunteer go down for someone else’s crime.”

        Why should yet another innocent person persecuted by your state, among the thousands and thousands bother you, Fredo?

      • tree on May 22, 2012, 3:09 pm

        The red crescent volunteer didn’t go down for some one else’s crime. He was arrested for WWP (walking while Palestinian). You can’t ask a border police man to arrest a pretty young Jewish Israeli when there’s a perfectly suitable Palestinian just asking to be arrested, can you?

        Fred, try as you may to insinuate, there’s absolutely no indications that the border policemen confused a young Israeli woman with a male Palestinian red crescent volunteer. They simply chose to arrest the Palestinian, just like they chose to chase after the Palestinian boy instead of confronting the Jewish assh*le who stole his flag.

      • Kathleen on May 22, 2012, 3:11 pm

        whoa.
        I remember thinking as I sobbed as a kid reading about the Holocaust how the hell did people just stand by and let this keep happening? And then you look at the I/P situation or the deaths of thousands of Iraqi’s as a result of our invasion, Darfur and people standing by not responding…doing little to nothing and I get it. Self interest, apathy, classism, racism, fear keep so many from responding.

      • Kathleen on May 22, 2012, 3:12 pm

        Phil did you ask your grandparents about this “don’t get involved” response?

      • justicewillprevail on May 22, 2012, 3:14 pm

        They aren’t police in the normal sense of the word. As usual you haven’t a clue.

      • tree on May 22, 2012, 4:17 pm

        I found a Haaretz article on Sahar here:

        http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/so-what-s-it-like-being-called-an-israel-hater-1.264809

        A wonderful, empathetic, articulate and courageous human being. Israel needs so many more of her type, instead of the sadistic a-holes who seem to be overly plentiful there.

      • Fredblogs on May 22, 2012, 4:34 pm

        @tree
        Confused two people? No. Didn’t realize who was doing it deliberately among multiple people in the way? Could be.

      • tree on May 22, 2012, 5:46 pm

        Didn’t realize who was doing it deliberately among multiple people in the way? Could be.

        And,of course, if an Israeli border policeman is unsure of who to arrest, because he’s not sure of who did what, the answer is always, “Arrest the Palestinian”. My point exactly. He did it when he chased the little boy, and he did it again when his prize catch got away. Can’t go away without arresting some Palestinian for what an a*hole Jewish Israeli did. His fellow border policemen might think him a wuss.

        http://www.btselem.org/beating_and_abuse/20111222_soldier_points_weapon_at_boy_in_hebron

      • Citizen on May 22, 2012, 6:48 pm

        Fredblogs, your advice is well-taken. Germans took it by the tens of thousands. So, remind me, why are endless generations of Germans paying reparations to Israel?

      • Talkback on May 22, 2012, 7:33 pm

        Fredblogs”Some free advice, if a policeman is chasing someone don’t interfere. Regardless of what that person did, interfering with the police is a crime.”

        How many Jews were killed in the Holocaust, because people were as obidient as you are?

      • eGuard on May 24, 2012, 4:56 am

        Phil: who heard kitty genovese’s screams … dont get involved.

        Actually, one person reacted, shouting “Let that girl alone!”. His name: Robert Mozer. To Fredblogs, this is the horror — and the essence.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese#attack

    • Woody Tanaka on May 22, 2012, 12:27 pm

      “, interfering with the police”

      LMAO. There was no “police” here. There was an armed zio thug who was chasing a boy, rather than arresting the dirty pig who stole the kid’s flag. Fredo, you insult the police of the world by calling this fascist piece of garbage — who is no better than a gang banger or mafia hitman — a police officer.

      • Fredblogs on May 22, 2012, 12:33 pm

        Yeah, yeah, “Israel bad” got it.

      • Woody Tanaka on May 22, 2012, 2:26 pm

        Not “Israel bad” – zionist thugs bad.

      • Citizen on May 22, 2012, 6:51 pm

        One Palestinian flag held by a boy, confronting hundreds of Jewish flags held by adults, backed by armed force. Yeah, yeah, Fredblogs, “Palestinian bad” got it by the numbers. You, Fredblogs, need an accountant.

      • seafoid on May 23, 2012, 5:52 am

        Pointing a gun at a child . Is that tikkun olam?

      • talknic on May 23, 2012, 7:11 am

        Fredblogs “Yeah, yeah, “Israel bad” got it.”

        You certainly have. Who were you quoting?

      • Shingo on May 23, 2012, 9:28 pm

        Don’t forget that reading out aloud the names of arabs towns destroyed by Israel will also get you arrested.

      • Fredblogs on May 22, 2012, 4:29 pm

        @Woody Tanaka
        re: Nazis killing Jews.
        Wow, you (not the generic “you” you, Woody Tanaka in particular) really can’t tell the difference, can you? There is no suggestion that the police officer in this case was going to kill the kid, so your analogy fails.

      • Woody Tanaka on May 22, 2012, 4:58 pm

        “Wow, you (not the generic “you” you, Woody Tanaka in particular) really can’t tell the difference, can you? ”

        You, Fred (not the generic “you” you, Fredblog in particular), are a psychopath, you know that, don’t you?

        “There is no suggestion that the police officer in this case was going to kill the kid”

        And there’ve been plenty of Palestinian kids just like this that have died or been tortured at the hands of petty israeli thugs like the one chasing him. If he didn’t intend to harm him, he had no reason to chase him. All he did was try to get his flag back from some isreali pig who stole it. But we can’t have that.

        Because, let’s face it, these thugs are there to make sure the Palestinian people bow and scrape for their zionist masters or at least fear for thier lives and that of their children at the hands of those same zionists, otherwise then judeo-supremacy isn’t that much fun, is it? So, of course, this child can’t express his Palestinian pride…

      • Fredblogs on May 22, 2012, 5:33 pm

        He probably intended to arrest him. I think if you look into it, you’ll find that is a common reason for police to chase people without any intention of killing them or otherwise harming them. As to the reason for the attempted arrest, none of that is on the video.

        I suggest you not give “Rodney King” as a reason for interfering with a police officer in America. Just because some police have committed crimes is not a generically applicable reason that justifies interfering with a random police officer.

      • tree on May 22, 2012, 5:36 pm

        Fred, look at photo still number one. The wacko border policeman is pointing his gun at the boy. Given OlegR’s justification of shooting an unarmed and wounded Palestinian at point blank range to ‘confirm the kill”, who’s to say what the border policeman would have done if not interfered with.

      • tree on May 22, 2012, 5:47 pm

        Point of clarification: By “photo still number one”, I mean number one of the 3 set where Sahar is attempting to restrain him.

      • Citizen on May 22, 2012, 6:53 pm

        What has the world come to that a Palestinian kid can’t be simply killed by a Jewish cop for holding a Palestinian flag? Cell phone cameras?

      • Bumblebye on May 22, 2012, 7:59 pm

        Fredfrog:
        There are other sites on the web which trace the incident from the child’s flag being snatched by an adult male and onwards. Why should he be arrested for waving his national flag in his own country, which has been stolen? The Israeli Jerusalem ‘annexation’ law is illegal and unrecognised internationally. Israel’s braying asses notwithstanding.

      • Djinn on May 22, 2012, 11:40 pm

        “He probably intended to arrest him”

        for what crime?

      • Woody Tanaka on May 23, 2012, 12:37 am

        “I think if you look into it, you’ll find that is a common reason for police to chase people without any intention of killing them or otherwise harming them.”

        And in most civilized countries, you wouldn’t expect the head coroner to be a parasite stealing the remains of dead people, but Dr. Hiss — who you also defended — did exactly that. So forgive me if I don’t trust an Israeli farther than I can throw him.

      • Woody Tanaka on May 23, 2012, 12:44 am

        “He probably intended to arrest him”

        for what crime?

        Living while Arab.

      • Fredblogs on May 23, 2012, 12:11 pm

        @tree
        Look at the video. He wasn’t pointing the gun at the kid just grabbing it one handed by the barrel, not the trigger, to keep it from swinging wildly on its strap as he skidded to a stop and changed direction. That’s not how you hold a rifle to shoot someone.

      • eljay on May 23, 2012, 12:57 pm

        >> He wasn’t pointing the gun at the kid just grabbing it one handed by the barrel … That’s not how you hold a rifle to shoot someone.

        I agree. In pics 1, 2 and 4 of the series containing the Brave Defender of the Glorious Jewish State (BDotGJS) and the boy, you can see the BDotGJS’ hand on the barrel, near to and slightly forward of the ammo clip. So it doesn’t look like he was about to shoot the kid.

        Was he planning to pull an “Eisner” and bravely and heroically smash the kid in the face with his assult rifle? That’s a good question… ;-)

      • Fredblogs on May 24, 2012, 3:49 am

        Yeah, sorry, that doesn’t work either, not held at that angle. Like I said, watch the video, it really is just to stop it from swinging around.

    • Talkback on May 22, 2012, 1:05 pm

      Universal moralist Fredblogs’ lesson for today:

      Do also never intervene when Jewish children are hunted down to arrest them because of pathetic nationalist reasons.

      • Fredblogs on May 23, 2012, 12:16 pm

        @Talkback
        OK, I stand corrected, it isn’t just Woody Tanaka that doesn’t know the difference between a policeman trying to arrest someone and a Nazi trying to kill someone.

      • Woody Tanaka on May 23, 2012, 12:45 pm

        “OK, I stand corrected, it isn’t just Woody Tanaka that doesn’t know the difference between a policeman trying to arrest someone and a Nazi trying to kill someone.”

        How do you know this “policeman” wasn’t going to kill this kid? OH, that’s right, the “policeman” is a Jew, so to you, he can do no wrong, not even the evil Dr. Hiss, who you defended so strongly. Got it.

      • pjdude on May 23, 2012, 1:47 pm

        um fred the gestapo were the police.

      • Fredblogs on May 23, 2012, 4:43 pm

        You can’t interfere with the police on the grounds that you “don’t know that they aren’t going to kill someone”. Are you even listening to yourself? You could say that about any cop. Do you make a habit of blocking policemen in pursuit? Why not, since “how do you know they aren’t going to kill whoever they are chasing”?

      • Woody Tanaka on May 23, 2012, 4:54 pm

        ” Do you make a habit of blocking policemen in pursuit? Why not, since ‘how do you know they aren’t going to kill whoever they are chasing’?”

        No, because I (thank god) don’t have run ins with israeli police. I have no reason to suspect the average American police will kill the person they’re chasing. I can’t say the same about a “police” officer of the israeli state, when the person being persued is a Palestinian, given the history of that state. But you, of course, will condemn the Paletinian and give the benefit of the doubt to the cop, for no other reason than because his is a Jew.

        Did you ever notice that you haven’t even addressed the issue that the reason this thug festooned with military weaponry was chasing a 10 year old was because he tried to get back his flag from someone that stole it?? It’s rather messed up that that doesn’t give you even the briefest pause, as any legitimate police officer would have reacted to the situation by telling the settler-pig flag-thief that he’s lucky that the police didn’t arrest him for theft; told the settler-pig to go back to his hate-parade; and returned the flag to the kid so he could waive it to his heart’s content.

        But because the thief and the cop are Jewish, you completely ignore all of that.

      • Bumblebye on May 23, 2012, 5:08 pm

        @Fredfrog
        The article was posted by a witness to the full incident. There is photographic evidence of the full incident available. The witness who posted was obviously determined that the child who was the VICTIM of, at the very least, bullying by an adult who snatched and broke his flag, should not be FURTHER victimised by an armed, uniformed thug who would undoubtedly at a minimum rough him up, and ensure he was charged with something, and physically intervened. She knows what you deny repeatedly, that in Israel, being Palestinian = open invitation for assault by the ‘masters’ at any time they so chose.

      • tree on May 23, 2012, 5:36 pm

        Fred,

        Give it up. The police didn’t arrest Sahar. They clearly knew what she did and chose not to arrest her. Its another policeman wearing black that pulls her away from the first one. They knew what she did. They obviously didn’t consider it an offense worthy of arrest. At least not for a Jew. And she clearly was trying to protect the boy, who had done nothing illegal. She’s aware that the border police are known for their cruelty, and that Palestinian children have been beaten for far less than running away. Palestinian children were beaten for simply carrying a Palestinian flag, way back during the first intifada.

      • Fredblogs on May 24, 2012, 3:22 am

        Oh is _that_ who the guy in black was? They should have arrested her. but even the police make mistakes from time to time.

      • Fredblogs on May 24, 2012, 3:35 am

        Actually, the article was posted by the woman who blocked the cop. Who was not (And doesn’t in the article claim to be) an eyewitness to the earlier incident, which took place way up the block. She must have gotten the info online afterward like the rest of us. _after_ she interfered with the cop. At the time, all she knew was that the cop was chasing the kid. For all she knew when she interfered, the kid had just stolen something.

      • Fredblogs on May 24, 2012, 3:57 am

        The guy shouldn’t have taken the kid’s flag. I saw a picture of the kid fighting with a guy over the flag. What I don’t see is what happened after that, or what the policeman saw, from whatever angle he saw things. For all I know the flag and the chase were unrelated. Post hoc ergo propter hoc falacy. Now, if you have a picture or video where the police started chasing the kid, I’ll be happy to look at it. It may be that the cop was wrong to chase the kid, but that doesn’t change the fact that you shouldn’t interfere with police business when you don’t know what is going on.

      • Shingo on May 24, 2012, 4:30 am

        Give it a rest Fred.

        This is no different to the bashing the Israeki cops gave that Jewish kid who wore a kipa with a kuffiyeh embroided on it, while waving a Palestinian flag.

        I forget the kids name, but if that’s what these thugs are prepared to do to Jews, then this video is only a taste of what goes on wgen Palestinians are involved.

      • Woody Tanaka on May 24, 2012, 8:21 am

        “The guy shouldn’t have taken the kid’s flag.”

        He didn’t “take” the kid’s flag, he stole it. But I guess because he’s a Jew, he surely can’t be a criminal, so you’ll just use the wrong word and perpetuate a lie…

        “I saw a picture of the kid fighting with a guy over the flag. What I don’t see is what happened after that, or what the policeman saw, from whatever angle he saw things.”

        Wow, Fredo, that’s a new one, even for a degenerate racist like you: “No evidence exists that the kid did anything wrong, so we have to assume that he did something wrong. (He’s an Arab, after all… *wink, wink*).”

        “For all I know the flag and the chase were unrelated.”

        Yeah, maybe the kid confessed to the Kennedy assassination and the cop was just trying to help the Americans crack the case…

      • Talkback on May 25, 2012, 11:38 am

        Fredblogs says: “@Talkback
        OK, I stand corrected, it isn’t just Woody Tanaka that doesn’t know the difference between a policeman trying to arrest someone and a Nazi trying to kill someone.”

        I didn’t write anything about a Nazi trying to kill someone. I wrote:
        “Universal moralist Fredblogs’ lesson for today:

        Do also never intervene when Jewish children are hunted down TO ARREST THEM because of pathetic nationalist reasons.”

        Isn’t it peculiar that YOU associate YOUR MIRRORED MORAL with Nazis when it’s applied to Jewish children?

    • Blake on May 22, 2012, 4:16 pm

      Fred if you think all this is normal and sane you seriously are disturbed.

      • Woody Tanaka on May 23, 2012, 12:45 am

        Fred is disturbed. He’s on the other thread defending the organ-snatching ghoul Dr. Hiss. (Hiss is a Jew, you see, so to the likes of Fred, he MUST be defended…)

      • Fredblogs on May 23, 2012, 12:01 pm

        Microscope sample snatching, not organ snatching, but thanks for the vivid imagery.

      • Djinn on May 23, 2012, 9:16 pm

        Are you denying that Hiss the ghoul has taken organs in the past? Hiss is demonstrably an organ snatcher regardless of what he kept (and bizarrely buried without record) from Rachel Corrie’s battered body.

      • Fredblogs on May 24, 2012, 3:39 am

        I’m talking about the Rachel Corrie issue. The selling of organs (would have to be for medical research, too late to use them in people by the time the coroner gets them) was unethical. That doesn’t make taking samples as a routine part of an autopsy unethical.

      • Woody Tanaka on May 24, 2012, 8:29 am

        “Microscope sample snatching, not organ snatching, but thanks for the vivid imagery.”

        No one knows what was snatched, and the fact that your buddy, Dr. Hiss, said he “buried” what he stole — something that is not done with microscope samples — coupled with his history of organ theft, would lead any reasonable person to conclude that he continued his ghoulish ways with Rachel’s body.

        Oh, but he’s a Jew, and to a bigot like you, that’s all that matters… he MUST be defended by the likes of you…

      • Woody Tanaka on May 24, 2012, 8:33 am

        “I’m talking about the Rachel Corrie issue.”

        No, you’re not. You’re trying out the latest, lame excuse to excuse the inexcusable for no other reason than because the guy is Jewish. If Mengele were Jewish, you’d find a way to excuse him, too, no doubt.

        “That doesn’t make taking samples as a routine part of an autopsy unethical.”

        And here you assume — against the known evidence — that all that was taken were routine samples. That’s the problem. You give a known organ thief the benefit of the doubt because he’s a Jew. That’s the height of bigotry.

      • Fredblogs on May 24, 2012, 3:06 pm

        Buried with other biological samples. What makes you think that isn’t how that particular lab disposes of microscope slides of human tissue? If the slides are kept for some period after the body is released it wouldn’t be practical to hold up the funeral or dig up the body to put the slides back with the body, but you can always give them some kind of burial. As for benefit of the doubt, I don’t have to give him the benefit of the doubt, I am going by what the linked document said, which was samples for histological testing, not body parts.

      • annie on May 24, 2012, 3:42 pm

        I am going by what the linked document said

        linked documents represent whoever wrote them. what you really mean to say is you are going by what someone says. who is that someone? the state? where does the state get the information?

      • Woody Tanaka on May 24, 2012, 3:56 pm

        ‘[Buried with other biological samples. What makes you think that isn’t how that particular lab disposes of microscope slides of human tissue?”

        What makes you sure that that is how these body parts were disposed of? Oh, that’s right, because the admitted organ-thief said so, so you believe him because that’s what the interest of the “Jewish state” requires.

        “As for benefit of the doubt, I don’t have to give him the benefit of the doubt, I am going by what the linked document said, which was samples for histological testing, not body parts.”

        False. The linked report reported on what the monster Hiss claimed. You, of course, stepped right up and believed every word he peddled. It didn’t give you a moment’s pause at all that the person who making that claim is a known serial body desecrator and organ thief, who has every motive in the world to make it seem like no big deal.

        But, for you, all that matters is that he’s an agent of the Jewish state, and you’ll lap up any load of horseshit he spreads.

      • Shingo on May 24, 2012, 9:14 pm

        Buried with other biological samples. What makes you think that isn’t how that particular lab disposes of microscope slides of human tissue?

        Oh I dunno, probably becasue no one in the West does unless they are serial killers. Handling and disposing of such waste is taken care of by specialized services who go to great lengths to abide by health regulations.

    • Djinn on May 22, 2012, 11:37 pm

      You seem to have an oddly authoritarian outlook. If a nation makes something illegal is that it? no need to object to it because it’s all by the book? Fascists everywhere thank you for your dedication to the cause.

      • Fredblogs on May 24, 2012, 3:40 am

        Anarchists everywhere thank you for your dedication to the cause.

      • Woody Tanaka on May 24, 2012, 8:34 am

        Better anarchism than the judeo-fascism you support.

      • Djinn on May 24, 2012, 8:40 am

        Odd that you would categorize anyone anti fascist as anarchist but in this case you’re right, anarcho-syndicalism to be more specific, well closer to that than any other ideology. Well done for not denying your own political affinity, it’s a refreshing change of pace from you honesty wise.

  9. seafoid on May 22, 2012, 12:15 pm

    The face of the kid is pure Palestinian. They don’t need a flag to say they belong in
    Erez Israel. You can see it from the bone structure and the eyes that they are of the land.

    Now what do Israelis look like ?

    • annie on May 22, 2012, 12:19 pm

      in that first photo of the cop and the boy they look related. even the hairline. so sad what religion does to people. they could easily be brothers of father and son.

      • Blake on May 22, 2012, 2:08 pm

        Yes obviously a Sephardic Jew who has no get out of clause to avoid compulsory military call up – like the religious Jews. They are also invisible in the government.

      • seafoid on May 22, 2012, 3:08 pm

        All they have is Beitar Jerusalem. It isn’t much.

      • Samuel T on May 22, 2012, 10:43 pm

        Annie,

        Well spoken, I agree, the familial familiarity is quite distinctive. I would make a distinction between what “religion” does to some people and also what has been and continues to be done under the blanket of religion and in the name of [insert deity here] is both sad and at times, blatantly counterintuitive to the tenets of the prescribed faith.

    • Woody Tanaka on May 22, 2012, 12:27 pm

      “Now what do Israelis look like ?”

      The ‘yahoo has the face of Eastern Europe. (Which is odd, since his supposed father had the face of a troll.)

      • seafoid on May 22, 2012, 4:14 pm

        He looks like all the Mileikowskys do!

  10. Kathleen on May 22, 2012, 1:15 pm

    What an important first hand account and footage. Total defiance of international law, un resolutions (and the UN created Israel), boundaries. “The settlers were still dancing with their flags, while the Palestinian protest desperately tried to raise their flags high enough to be seen through the line of police that seemed to be the buffer between the two protests: the blue and white protest and the red, green, black and white one

    And then acted out with such hatred, cruelty along with defiance of international agreements. “The Israeli flags stormed the empty old city, chanting “death to the Arabs”, “Mohammed is dead”, “may the temple be build and the mosque burned”, and all the while they were waving their flags.”

    So sickening…these Israeli’s have totally lost it. Lost all humanity.

    • yourstruly on May 22, 2012, 2:31 pm

      that’s because colonialism invariably deprives those who benefit from it of their humanity.

      • seafoid on May 22, 2012, 3:06 pm

        Wendell Berry

        “And we should not neglect to notice that whereas the monocultural landscape is totalitarian in tendency, the landscape of harmony is democratic and free”

        http://isle.oxfordjournals.org/content/6/1/15.extract

      • Citizen on May 22, 2012, 7:05 pm

        dunno if belated colonialism explains Israeli action, but the concept of lebensraum really does. The heart of darkness is multi-tasking these days.

    • lysias on May 22, 2012, 2:34 pm

      “The Israeli flags stormed the empty old city, chanting “death to the Arabs”, “Mohammed is dead”, “may the temple be build and the mosque burned”, and all the while they were waving their flags.”

      Can’t help but be reminded of “Deutschland erwache, Juda verreck’!”

      • Kathleen on May 22, 2012, 2:52 pm

        And as someone pointed out on another Mondoweiss thread if Palestinians were marching through the legal area of Jerusalem that belongs to Israel chanting “death to Jews” Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews, Fox,, NPR, Jon Stewart would be all over that

      • Citizen on May 22, 2012, 7:06 pm

        Aw come on, Rachel got herself filmed firing an M-16.

  11. Rowan on May 22, 2012, 1:44 pm

    Cookin. Much lower proportion of right-wing trolls here than at +972.

    • Citizen on May 22, 2012, 7:09 pm

      So, Rowan, what does Phil have to do to bring more diversity to Mondoweiss.net? What lessons can he learn from +972?

      • annie on May 22, 2012, 7:12 pm

        jeez citizen, don’t give anyone any ideas. the trolls infest the comment section @ +972 w/endless harassment. trolls are not my idea of diversity.

      • thankgodimatheist on May 23, 2012, 8:13 am

        I think it’s time for Oleg and Fredblog to be given the boot. They have shown their limits and it’s unfair to other ziobots who may be waiting impatiently to have a go and trying their hand.

      • Woody Tanaka on May 23, 2012, 1:01 pm

        “I think it’s time for Oleg and Fredblog to be given the boot. ”

        I agree. Especially regarding Fredblogs. His recent support of the organ-snatching ghoul, Dr. Hiss, simply because Hiss is Jewish, demonstrates that Fredblog’s entire act is to defend Israel no matter what its crimes, no matter what it does.

        There may be a place in a debate for misfits like hard-core Zionist, Holocaust deniers, unrepentant racists, neo-confederate dorks, and so forth, who may have horrific, evil ideas, but when someone’s whole approach is simply “defend Israel, regardless of the issue, no matter what” there’s nothing added by permitting that.

        I say frag his ass.

  12. Kathleen on May 22, 2012, 1:54 pm

    This new stand up for Palestinans sea change coming from older and younger Jews in the states and in Israel is new and refreshing. A much needed change!

    • seafoid on May 22, 2012, 4:09 pm

      Change we can believe in.

      • Kathleen on May 26, 2012, 10:22 am

        indeed..very different than even six or seven years ago. documentable difference

  13. Kathleen on May 22, 2012, 1:55 pm

    Hopefully someone will interview the young Palestinian boy and Sahar together…would be a great interview

  14. Saleema on May 22, 2012, 2:22 pm

    My God that is a brave woman.

    I don’t understand the “Mohammad is dead” chant. Of course he is. So will we all be. The message he brought on lives though. What kind of message does Zionist Judaism want to leave? Soldiers chasing 10 year olds? Let Zionism be dead, soon, inshallah.

    • eljay on May 22, 2012, 3:06 pm

      >> I don’t understand the “Mohammad is dead” chant. Of course he is.

      I was wondering the very same thing. :-)

      • gamal on May 22, 2012, 6:53 pm

        Muhammad is dead, i think they mean Jesus, muslims christians who cares, i mean would the chant moses is dead inconvenience a Jew?

        Abu Bakr arrived and said, “Sit down, O ‘Umar!” But ‘Umar refused to sit down. So the people came to Abu Bakr and left Umar. Abu Bakr said, “To proceed, if anyone amongst you used to worship Muhammad, then Muhammad has passed away, but if (anyone of) you used to worship God, then God is Alive and shall never die. God said, “And Muhammad is but a messenger; the messengers have come before him; if then he dies or is killed will you turn back upon your heels? And whoever turns back upon his heels, he will by no means do harm to Me in the least and I will reward the grateful.” (3.144)”

        Abu Bakr to the Muslims, especially Omar ibni al-Khatab who refused to believe that the Prophet was dead. So we all agree on that then, cool, are they closet Muslims perhaps, but then Kahan Chai.

        of course both sides should be condemned equally for the use of flags, or not it all depends on the slater calculus did the Palestinian flags have any real hope of winning,

        is submission the only moral choice available,

        like the Protestant marches in Ulster except unbelievably even more revolting, at least the prods perform astonishing feats of early morning drinking prior to parading in their sashes and bowlers.

    • seafoid on May 22, 2012, 3:07 pm

      Zionism is already dead from the neck up

      Ma sha allah

    • Shmuel on May 22, 2012, 3:50 pm

      My God that is a brave woman.

      That she is, Saleema. She’s a well-known activist in Jerusalem, and the racist thugs have tried to intimidate her, spray-painting nasty things on the wall outside her house. Needless to say, she doesn’t scare easily :-)

      I don’t understand the “Mohammad is dead” chant. Of course he is.

      It’s part of a very racist song, sung by Beitar Jerusalem fans. The cowards just sing the refrain and have a good laugh (“What did we say? We’re just notifying the family.”)

      • gamal on May 22, 2012, 6:59 pm

        oh muhammad the generic palestinian not the prophet, that is really revolting,

      • Saleema on May 22, 2012, 11:01 pm

        I get it now. That is sick. Very, very sick.

      • seafoid on May 23, 2012, 6:27 am

        Shmuel

        do you know anywhere one could see a list of all the Beitar chants and what they mean in English ?

      • Shmuel on May 23, 2012, 6:56 am

        do you know anywhere one could see a list of all the Beitar chants and what they mean in English ?

        As you might have guessed, I’m not that into Beitar ;-)
        A quick search brought up a couple of lists (Hebrew – well, kind of):
        http://www.fxp.co.il/showthread.php?t=7271857
        http://www.fxp.co.il/showthread.php?t=5289378

        As for what they mean in English, the chant “Death to the Arabs!” sums it up pretty well.

      • seafoid on May 23, 2012, 7:49 am

        Thanks

        altogether now:

        “Mavet la ‘aravim”

        with the r in a German accent

        and that is what became of the return to Zion for which the people had prayed for 2 millennia.

    • Kathleen on May 23, 2012, 11:26 am

      “My God that is a brave woman.” She was so quick and smooth!

    • Danaa on May 23, 2012, 1:28 pm

      Contrast with the common chant of lebenstraum marchers – and ziobot Israel-uber-alas crowds everywhere “Am Israel Chai!” .

      What did the brown shirts chant?

      A comparison of right wing/fascist chants through the ages might be in order.

  15. LanceThruster on May 22, 2012, 5:16 pm

    Ms. Vardi – Just wanted to say I was very moved by your actions to put yourself in harm’s way for the sake of defending a young boy who was about to be shown the errors of his ways in defying the prevailing narrative.

    Thank you for your courage and tenacity, and sharing your first hand account here. Please return often.

  16. thankgodimatheist on May 22, 2012, 8:53 pm

    So many flags= Ultra nationalism= Fascism.

    And thank you, Sahar. You’re an admirable person. Much love and appreciation.

  17. thankgodimatheist on May 22, 2012, 9:56 pm

    Norman Finkelstein:
    “See the little monster,/See the brave Israeli soldier chase the little monster,/See the Nazi anti-Semite assault the brave Israeli soldier”
    http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/see-the-little-monstersee-the-brave-israeli-soldier-chase-the-little-monstersee-the-nazi-anti-semite-assault-the-brave-israeli-soldier/

    • seafoid on May 23, 2012, 6:23 am

      From the fink link

      http://972mag.com/author/lisa/

      Meanwhile, there are some violent reactions on Facebook to the image of the enraged Border Police officer chasing the frightened Palestinian boy. Some of the comments are a bit funny, in a sad way – like the comment from Geffen Cnaani, a woman in her 20s who works for a medical care provider, who writes (my translation from the Hebrew):

      Stinking leftists instead of saying thank you to the soldier who did e-x-a-c-t-l-y what he was supposed to do, you’re trying to change the story?! It’s simply a disgrace that willfully ignorant people live in our country… You should appreciate a soldier like that who acts bravely in the face of the cruelest enemy we have, may the names of all Arabs be wiped out!! And respect to the dedicated soldier..!
      Yehuda Daniel, an ultra-Orthodox yeshiva student, writes (with a few spelling mistakes in the holy tongue):

      In my opinion at every event there should be a group of people who break cameras. If you see a camera, break it at some point so that the leftists will stop bringing expensive cameras – and then they’ll photograph more general shots (because of the lack of technology) – every camera costs tens of thousands of shekels – I doubt that journalists will be happy if someone breaks their camera every time. (Daniel’s idea received two thumbs up – LG).Asaf Cohen, a 27 year-old who is studying to be a car mechanic, writes:

      They should’ve broken his legs so he couldn’t walk anymore, and then they should’ve broken the legs of the leftists with cameras.

  18. pnkfloid on May 22, 2012, 10:40 pm

    Bravo to Sahar Vardi and the pink-shirted kid who got away!

  19. American on May 26, 2012, 2:57 pm

    I had an idea because it’s time for me to renew my license plates, and checked NC personalized license plates to see if I could fit Palestine on a plate …..I can except for one letter, it only allows 8 letters…so I would have to go with “Palestin” and drop the e…wonder if people would recongize the meaning without the full spelling?
    Anyone got a suggestion of how to better fit it on?

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