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The responses by the Jewish establishment are nothing short of meaningless intolerance. And paranoia. Increasingly the reality of Israeli crimes are entering the mainstream and all they can do is bleat about propaganda and Israeli morality. Fewer and fewer people believe this in 2012. The Breaking the Silence comments are interesting and strong though personally I’d rather the defence of Zionism wasn’t in there. Regardless, it’s an important organisation and challenges the concept, still laughably used by Israel defenders, that the IDF is the “most moral army in the world.”

I thought this would be the end of the story but then this week I received an email (I’ve published it all below, removing any relevant names) that reveals attempts by the supposedly more liberal wing of the Jewish community to encourage people not to attend Israel/Palestine related talks in Australia because their minds must be corrupted. Or something. It reeks of bigotry and fear.

It’s no wonder many people, including me in a new book After Zionism, now campaign for a wholesome challenge to the Zionist and Jewish communities. If even listening to different points of view from Israel is too much for supposedly sensitive Jewish ears, believing that reform of Israel and the Diaspora is possible, and the occupation ended, is dangerously delusional thinking. Zionism itself is the problem here:

———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Daniel Crook 
Date: Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 2:20 PM
Subject: [melbogs] Please Read {01}

Tomorrow night Hashy are hosting an event where the audience will hear from two speakers, one of the speakers is Micha Kurz, who is the co-founder of a NGO in Israel called ‘Breaking the Silence’. Hearing this came at quite a shock to me and I want to highly encourage anyone thinking of going to read this email before you go and show your support. ‘Breaking the Silence’ are highly criticised for being an anti-Zionist and anti-Israel organisation, and are also criticised for being left wing extremists. Taken from their website we can see that their mission statement is to “expose the Israeli public to the reality of everyday life in the Occupied Territories”, which is not necessarily the issue at hand, but rather the issue lies in their approach, way that they attempt to do this, and what it creates in peoples understanding and beliefs about Israel, Zionism and the IDF.

The responses by the Jewish establishment are nothing short of meaningless intolerance. And paranoia. Increasingly the reality of Israeli crimes are entering the mainstream and all they can do is bleat about propaganda and Israeli morality. Fewer and fewer people believe this in 2012. The Breaking the Silence comments are interesting and strong though personally I’d rather the defence of Zionism wasn’t in there. Regardless, it’s an important organisation and challenges the concept, still laughably used by Israel defenders, that the IDF is the “most moral army in the world.”

I thought this would be the end of the story but then this week I received an email (I’ve published it all below, removing any relevant names) that reveals attempts by the supposedly more liberal wing of the Jewish community to encourage people not to attend Israel/Palestine related talks in Australia because their minds must be corrupted. Or something. It reeks of bigotry and fear.

It’s no wonder many people, including me in a new book After Zionism, now campaign for a wholesome challenge to the Zionist and Jewish communities. If even listening to different points of view from Israel is too much for supposedly sensitive Jewish ears, believing that reform of Israel and the Diaspora is possible, and the occupation ended, is dangerously delusional thinking. Zionism itself is the problem here:

———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Daniel Crook 
Date: Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 2:20 PM
Subject: [melbogs] Please Read {01}

Tomorrow night Hashy are hosting an event where the audience will hear from two speakers, one of the speakers is Micha Kurz, who is the co-founder of a NGO in Israel called ‘Breaking the Silence’. Hearing this came at quite a shock to me and I want to highly encourage anyone thinking of going to read this email before you go and show your support. ‘Breaking the Silence’ are highly criticised for being an anti-Zionist and anti-Israel organisation, and are also criticised for being left wing extremists. Taken from their website we can see that their mission statement is to “expose the Israeli public to the reality of everyday life in the Occupied Territories”, which is not necessarily the issue at hand, but rather the issue lies in their approach, way that they attempt to do this, and what it creates in peoples understanding and beliefs about Israel, Zionism and the IDF.

The responses by the Jewish establishment are nothing short of meaningless intolerance. And paranoia. Increasingly the reality of Israeli crimes are entering the mainstream and all they can do is bleat about propaganda and Israeli morality. Fewer and fewer people believe this in 2012. The Breaking the Silence comments are interesting and strong though personally I’d rather the defence of Zionism wasn’t in there. Regardless, it’s an important organisation and challenges the concept, still laughably used by Israel defenders, that the IDF is the “most moral army in the world.”

I thought this would be the end of the story but then this week I received an email (I’ve published it all below, removing any relevant names) that reveals attempts by the supposedly more liberal wing of the Jewish community to encourage people not to attend Israel/Palestine related talks in Australia because their minds must be corrupted. Or something. It reeks of bigotry and fear.

It’s no wonder many people, including me in a new book After Zionism, now campaign for a wholesome challenge to the Zionist and Jewish communities. If even listening to different points of view from Israel is too much for supposedly sensitive Jewish ears, believing that reform of Israel and the Diaspora is possible, and the occupation ended, is dangerously delusional thinking. Zionism itself is the problem here:

———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Daniel Crook 
Date: Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 2:20 PM
Subject: [melbogs] Please Read {01}

Tomorrow night Hashy are hosting an event where the audience will hear from two speakers, one of the speakers is Micha Kurz, who is the co-founder of a NGO in Israel called ‘Breaking the Silence’. Hearing this came at quite a shock to me and I want to highly encourage anyone thinking of going to read this email before you go and show your support. ‘Breaking the Silence’ are highly criticised for being an anti-Zionist and anti-Israel organisation, and are also criticised for being left wing extremists. Taken from their website we can see that their mission statement is to “expose the Israeli public to the reality of everyday life in the Occupied Territories”, which is not necessarily the issue at hand, but rather the issue lies in their approach, way that they attempt to do this, and what it creates in peoples understanding and beliefs about Israel, Zionism and the IDF.

The responses by the Jewish establishment are nothing short of meaningless intolerance. And paranoia. Increasingly the reality of Israeli crimes are entering the mainstream and all they can do is bleat about propaganda and Israeli morality. Fewer and fewer people believe this in 2012. The Breaking the Silence comments are interesting and strong though personally I’d rather the defence of Zionism wasn’t in there. Regardless, it’s an important organisation and challenges the concept, still laughably used by Israel defenders, that the IDF is the “most moral army in the world.”

I thought this would be the end of the story but then this week I received an email (I’ve published it all below, removing any relevant names) that reveals attempts by the supposedly more liberal wing of the Jewish community to encourage people not to attend Israel/Palestine related talks in Australia because their minds must be corrupted. Or something. It reeks of bigotry and fear.

It’s no wonder many people, including me in a new book After Zionism, now campaign for a wholesome challenge to the Zionist and Jewish communities. If even listening to different points of view from Israel is too much for supposedly sensitive Jewish ears, believing that reform of Israel and the Diaspora is possible, and the occupation ended, is dangerously delusional thinking. Zionism itself is the problem here:

———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Daniel Crook 
Date: Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 2:20 PM
Subject: [melbogs] Please Read {01}

Tomorrow night Hashy are hosting an event where the audience will hear from two speakers, one of the speakers is Micha Kurz, who is the co-founder of a NGO in Israel called ‘Breaking the Silence’. Hearing this came at quite a shock to me and I want to highly encourage anyone thinking of going to read this email before you go and show your support. ‘Breaking the Silence’ are highly criticised for being an anti-Zionist and anti-Israel organisation, and are also criticised for being left wing extremists. Taken from their website we can see that their mission statement is to “expose the Israeli public to the reality of everyday life in the Occupied Territories”, which is not necessarily the issue at hand, but rather the issue lies in their approach, way that they attempt to do this, and what it creates in peoples understanding and beliefs about Israel, Zionism and the IDF.

The responses by the Jewish establishment are nothing short of meaningless intolerance. And paranoia. Increasingly the reality of Israeli crimes are entering the mainstream and all they can do is bleat about propaganda and Israeli morality. Fewer and fewer people believe this in 2012. The Breaking the Silence comments are interesting and strong though personally I’d rather the defence of Zionism wasn’t in there. Regardless, it’s an important organisation and challenges the concept, still laughably used by Israel defenders, that the IDF is the “most moral army in the world.”

I thought this would be the end of the story but then this week I received an email (I’ve published it all below, removing any relevant names) that reveals attempts by the supposedly more liberal wing of the Jewish community to encourage people not to attend Israel/Palestine related talks in Australia because their minds must be corrupted. Or something. It reeks of bigotry and fear.

It’s no wonder many people, including me in a new book After Zionism, now campaign for a wholesome challenge to the Zionist and Jewish communities. If even listening to different points of view from Israel is too much for supposedly sensitive Jewish ears, believing that reform of Israel and the Diaspora is possible, and the occupation ended, is dangerously delusional thinking. Zionism itself is the problem here:

———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Daniel Crook 
Date: Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 2:20 PM
Subject: [melbogs] Please Read {01}

Tomorrow night Hashy are hosting an event where the audience will hear from two speakers, one of the speakers is Micha Kurz, who is the co-founder of a NGO in Israel called ‘Breaking the Silence’. Hearing this came at quite a shock to me and I want to highly encourage anyone thinking of going to read this email before you go and show your support. ‘Breaking the Silence’ are highly criticised for being an anti-Zionist and anti-Israel organisation, and are also criticised for being left wing extremists. Taken from their website we can see that their mission statement is to “expose the Israeli public to the reality of everyday life in the Occupied Territories”, which is not necessarily the issue at hand, but rather the issue lies in their approach, way that they attempt to do this, and what it creates in peoples understanding and beliefs about Israel, Zionism and the IDF.

Fresh news about the Diaspora Jewish community’s refusal to hear about atrocities committed by Israel, let alone act on them, even as the wider community seems to be opening its eyes. 

Last week the Israeli soldiers’ group Breaking the Silence released a staggering report on the abuse, dehumanization, and shootings of Palestinian children by the Israeli army. The report demonstrates that Israeli soldiers cross moral red lines without concern because they know they will never be punished for destroying Palestinians’ human rights.

Sadly, the report has gotten scarcely any attention in the US media. But it has been covered in Europe and Australia. Two leading Australian papers published a big story on the report: The Age and the Sydney Morning Herald.

Antony Loewenstein has a post up on the matter, chronicling the angry response by Jewish groups to the news:

The Aus­tralian Jew­ish News was out­raged, pro­vid­ing a space for Zion­ist spokes­peo­ple to damn all the al­le­ga­tions:

“An­other Is­rael-bash­ing head­line”, “a fla­grantly one-sided piece” and “thread­bare and un­sub­stan­ti­ated ­allegations”…

A state­ment was re­leased by Danny Lamm, Pres­i­dent of the Ex­ec­u­tive Coun­cil of Aus­tralian Jewry:

“How sad it is that once-great broad­sheets like the Syd­ney Morn­ing Her­ald and The Age have been re­duced to fea­tur­ing crude pro­pa­ganda on their front page.

Loewenstein notes that the bash was then joined by the head of the Israel lobby in Australia, Colin Ruben­stein, and a Jewish Labor MP named Michael Danby, who sought to leverage financial pressure on the newspapers:

Michael Danby told J-Wire: “I felt The Age cov­er­age was worse than the Syd­ney Morn­ing Her­ald’s as their head­line was more bi­ased and the graph­ics used were larger and more emo­tive.”

Speak­ing at the open­ing in Mel­bourne of the Is­raeli Film Fes­ti­val, Danby said: “I was not sur­prised to see the Fair­fax share price plum­met­ing. On days when hun­dreds of civil­ians were being killed in Syria, The Age and the Syd­ney Morn­ing Her­ald were re­hash­ing un­ver­i­fied re­hashed pro­pa­ganda against Is­rael.” He ap­pealed to Greg Hay­wood, the chair­man of Fair­fax to ex­plain why his chain gave such promi­nence to this story.

A feature appeared in The Age and Sydney Morning Herald last week by Ruth Pollard which detailed shocking new allegations by IDF personnel and their behaviour against Palestinian children. Murdoch’s Australian also covered the revelations. The Australian Jewish News was outraged, providing a space for Zionist spokespeople to damn all the allegations:

“Another Israel-bashing headline”, “a flagrantly one-sided piece” and “threadbare and unsubstantiated allegations”.

Just a handful of comments from community leaders and the Israeli embassy this week following the extensive coverage in the Australian media of a report issued by Israeli veterans group Breaking The Silence (BTS) about the treatment of Palestinian children at the hands of the IDF.

A statement was released by Danny Lamm, President of the Executive Council of Australian Jewry:

“How sad it is that once-great broadsheets like the Sydney Morning Herald and The Age have been reduced to featuring crude propaganda on their front page.

A feature appeared in The Age and Sydney Morning Herald last week by Ruth Pollard which detailed shocking new allegations by IDF personnel and their behaviour against Palestinian children. Murdoch’s Australian also covered the revelations. The Australian Jewish News was outraged, providing a space for Zionist spokespeople to damn all the allegations:

“Another Israel-bashing headline”, “a flagrantly one-sided piece” and “threadbare and unsubstantiated allegations”.

Just a handful of comments from community leaders and the Israeli embassy this week following the extensive coverage in the Australian media of a report issued by Israeli veterans group Breaking The Silence (BTS) about the treatment of Palestinian children at the hands of the IDF.

A statement was released by Danny Lamm, President of the Executive Council of Australian Jewry:

“How sad it is that once-great broadsheets like the Sydney Morning Herald and The Age have been reduced to featuring crude propaganda on their front page.

Breaking the Silence responded to the Australian critics with a defiant statement  ot its own. The soldiers group asserted that its witnesses are telling the truth and it took jabs at armchair Diaspora Jews:

While the question of whether and to what degree Diaspora Jews should advocate their views on internal Israeli affairs is an open one, beating on Israelis of other political convictions is not. Lamm’s armchair Zionism pontificating from afar, while true Israelis put their lives on the line, imposes certain restraints on his engagement.

Loewenstein– who is the editor of a new volume of essays, After Zionism, to which I am also a contributor– explains the larger context of the controversy: 

The re­sponses by the Jew­ish es­tab­lish­ment are noth­ing short of mean­ing­less in­tol­er­ance. And para­noia. In­creas­ingly the re­al­ity of Is­raeli crimes are en­ter­ing the main­stream and all they can do is bleat about pro­pa­ganda and Is­raeli moral­ity. Fewer and fewer peo­ple be­lieve this in 2012….

I thought this would be the end of the story but then this week I re­ceived an email (I’ve pub­lished it all below, re­mov­ing any rel­e­vant names) that re­veals at­tempts by the sup­pos­edly more lib­eral wing of the Jew­ish com­mu­nity to en­cour­age peo­ple not to at­tend Is­rael/Pales­tine re­lated talks in Aus­tralia be­cause their minds must be cor­rupted. Or some­thing. It reeks of big­otry and fear…. Zion­ism it­self is the prob­lem here.

Here’s the beginning of the email Loewenstein published, from the liberal Zionist group Habonim Dror. It characterizes Breaking the Silence as “sim­plis­tic and nar­row.” Staggering denial– though note that, yes, another Jewish group was sponsoring Breaking the Silence in Australia:

———- For­warded mes­sage ———-
From: Daniel Crook 
Date: Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 2:20 PM
Sub­ject: [mel­bogs] Please Read {01}

To­mor­row night Hashy are host­ing an event where the au­di­ence will hear from two speak­ers, one of the speak­ers is Micha Kurz, who is the co-founder of a NGO in Is­rael called ‘Break­ing the Si­lence’. Hear­ing this came at quite a shock to me and I want to highly en­cour­age any­one think­ing of going to read this email be­fore you go and show your sup­port. ‘Break­ing the Si­lence’ are highly crit­i­cised for being an anti-Zion­ist and anti-Is­rael or­gan­i­sa­tion, and are also crit­i­cised for being left wing ex­trem­ists…

Anti Is­rael sen­ti­ment is grow­ing through­out the world, as we see on our own uni­ver­sity cam­puses, and ‘Break­ing the Si­lence’ are po­ten­tially fu­elling a lot of this opin­ion. ‘Break­ing the Si­lence’ rely on the use of very ex­treme ex­am­ples, in­clud­ing in­ter­views, tes­ti­monies and imag­ing, to show and un­cover what they term the shock­ing re­al­i­ties of Is­rael and the IDF. They are highly crit­i­cised for pro­vid­ing a non-Zion­ist and highly over-sim­plis­tic view of the is­sues at hand and pre­sent a pic­ture of IDF ac­tions against Pales­tini­ans that is com­pletely re­moved from and ig­nores the larger Is­rael-Pales­tin­ian con­flict, which as a re­sult adds in a se­ri­ous way to the world wide anti-Is­rael sen­ti­ment that af­fects our lives as Zion­ists in a se­ri­ous way. In short, the ex­am­ples that they use to ful­fil their mis­sion are very ex­treme and are taken out of con­text, they crit­i­cise the IDF and the Is­raeli gov­ern­ment with a very one-sided agenda, and also in­clude no pro­duc­tive stance about a more pos­i­tive di­rec­tion for Is­raeli so­ci­ety.

Philip Weiss

Philip Weiss is senior editor of Mondoweiss.net and founded the site in 2005-06.

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  1. seafoid on September 4, 2012, 11:45 am

    “The re­sponses by the Jew­ish es­tab­lish­ment are noth­ing short of mean­ing­less in­tol­er­ance.”

    It’s very meaningful. They are doing what zionists have done for over 100 years. Crush everything that is anti message.

    Chomsky on the jihad against the Fink

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8ENawcSliA

    1. traintosiberia says:
    July 4, 2012 at 11:12 am

    Finklestein’s forced departure from De paul, removal of Obama’s muslim supporter from visibility,refusal to allow Desmond Tutu to speak in the college of Minnesota,and at the American Psychiatric conference of 2011,stopping the publication of book critical of Israel in France and attempt to do so in USA ( the book by University of Michigan faculty and the book by Mersheimer and Walt),removal of Sanchez from CNN and hounding out of Sylvia Nasr from CNN, use of vertically integrated McArthismesque tactics to get Helen Thomas combined with similar transatlantic success in England (against a number of MPs and party officers ) and in Germany ( against Gunter ) show that the poisoned ,effective successful influences over media,academy,educational events,politics,and governments ( ? anything left) of the lobby has driven a knife in the very essence of western society and in the ideas of human choices based on information.

    http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi-bin/FRUS/FRUS-idx?type=article&did=FRUS.FRUS1944v05.i0015&id=FRUS.FRUS1944v05&isize=M

    Page 628
    The minister in Iraq (Henderson) to the Secretary of State
    Baghdad November 1 1944
    “They find it difficult to reconcile themselves to the belief that the the US merely for the sake of internal political experiency is favoring a course in Palestine which in their opinion not only would be unjust but would undoubtedly lead to bloodshed and misery for all concerned. They can perceive no reason for the recent pronouncements and promises of American government and political leaders who should have a complete understanding of the Palestine situation other than a desire to obtain the support of the american Zionists. They are asking whether it is possible that American foreign policy in the future is to be shaped in such a manner as to meet the demands of private pressure groups possessed of ample funds and exercising control over American channels of information. ”

    Except now they can’t ensure career destruction. Because hasbara is dead and they know it.

    And now they are hysterical.
    2013 is going to be very interesting.

    • Kathleen on September 4, 2012, 2:22 pm

      Seafoid “they are doing what Zionist have done for over 100 years. Crush everything that is anti message” Bingo. And the U.S. MSM basically goes along.

      • annie on September 4, 2012, 7:28 pm

        i’m reading your second link now seafoid. i’ve been reading off and on since you posted today. the ‘charge at damacus’ (farrel) pg 570 certainly doesn’t mince his words.

    • Theo on September 5, 2012, 8:48 am

      I would like to add that MW is really fighting zionism and palestinian oppression with one hand tied behind its back.
      After all, those zionists are also from the tribe and we should not get carried away with too many critics and too many truths.
      Just like the rabbi asks: “is it good for the jews”?

  2. pabelmont on September 4, 2012, 1:55 pm

    Thanks, seafoid. Just imagine anything in this essay or your post on page 1 of NYT.
    OK, but keep imagining. This is going to take a long time.

    • seafoid on September 4, 2012, 2:28 pm

      It could spin out of control sooner than you think. The dynamic is nihilistic.
      The settlers are untouchable now. They don’t care about anyone. Muslims and Christians are targets. And the authorities won’t do anything

      They could attack the church of the holy sepulchre. Why not? Imagine the RUSH.

      Israel is like Detroit at the moment where heroin arrived on the scene.

      Or India as the Hindutva rabble rousers started thinking about pulling down Babri Masjid.

  3. American on September 4, 2012, 3:33 pm

    I thought this would be the end of the story but then this week I re­ceived an email (I’ve pub­lished it all below, re­mov­ing any rel­e­vant names) that re­veals at­tempts by the sup­pos­edly more lib­eral wing of the Jew­ish com­mu­nity to en­cour­age peo­ple not to at­tend Is­rael/Pales­tine re­lated talks in Aus­tralia be­cause their minds must be cor­rupted. Or some­thing. It reeks of big­otry and fear…. Zion­ism it­self is the prob­lem here”

    Does anyone want a strategy for ending this sooner rather than later?
    Then think about what Zionism has to stand on to have any power…it has to stand on the Jew’s shoulders, particulary the diaspora’s, plain and simple.

    “Price tag’ the diaspora that supports zionism. And before anyone goes ballistic thinking this says attack the Jews let me say the kind of price tagging I am thinking of could be done gently and with a laser not a hammer and still be effective.
    Not gently enough for the zios but gently enough for the rest of the country.

    The fact is we can attack the zio hierarchy all we want, they aren’t to fall until we kick the stool they are standing on in our ‘domestic political considerations’ re Israel out from under them.

    • Mayhem on September 4, 2012, 7:52 pm

      @American, say what you like, you no doubt have the blessing of the MW police. When I try to say something that challenges the foundations of the propaganda tainted beliefs here I find my critical remarks blocked by the censors. How can I fairly get my thoughts and opinions across when I am forced to speak with half my mouth taped up and a hand tied behind my back?

      re veals at tempts by the sup pos edly more lib eral wing of the Jew ish com mu nity to en cour­age peo ple not to at tend Is­rael/Pales tine re lated talks in Aus­tralia be cause their minds must be cor rupted

      As far as your unsubstantiated insinuation above that Jews here in Australia are not wanting to allow others to here viewpoints contrary to the Zionist doctrine, let me say that Tom Segev is in town at the moment giving a series of 4 lectures.
      The Jewish community discusses and questions and the debate is very widespread and healthy. However when it comes to the Palestinian community the dialogue shrivels up into nothing becoming a one-sided hue and cry against everything that Israel does.
      And now back to ‘Breaking the Silence’ . I think one Israeli who responded to BTS’s defence of their actions provides a very serious criticism of BTS.

      I served in the IDF for many years. I speak Hebrew fluently. So I don’t come under the category of the Australian Jews you dismiss with such venom. Yes there are Israeli soldiers who cross the line of good behaviour and actions as occurs in any fighting army. But if the BTS receives such info why don’t they give the particulars to the Israeli authorities who are able to deal with these issues? No, they take these unsubstantiated accusations to foreign lands while funded by foreign organizations and ask them to interfere in Israeli politics and ask them to investigate the IDF. This is outrageous. Can you imagine what would happen if an Australian organization received info about Aussie soldiers transgressing, not passing it on to the Australian authorities, but going overseas and asking the world to investigate the Australian army?

      • annie on September 4, 2012, 8:22 pm

        But if the BTS receives such info why don’t they give the particulars to the Israeli authorities who are able to deal with these issues? No, they take these unsubstantiated accusations to foreign lands while funded by foreign organizations and ask them to interfere in Israeli politics and ask them to investigate the IDF.

        i guess he missed this:

        The High Court of Justice upheld the procedure regarding complaints of torture against Shin Bet agents, despite the fact that this procedure resulted in no investigations after nearly 600 complaints

        http://972mag.com/high-court-upholds-flawed-procedure-on-torture-investigations/52572/

        also, did breaking the silence go to the europeans or the UK or the other way around. i thought the UK was doing their own investigation.

      • Mayhem on September 5, 2012, 8:39 pm

        @Annie, who missed what point? Your reference to an article at 972mag.com has nothing to do with BTS.

      • annie on September 5, 2012, 9:31 pm

        you’re right it had nothing to do with breaking the silence however it had EVERYTHING to so with why don’t they give the particulars to the Israeli authorities who are able to deal with these issues?

        the 972 link demonstrates what happens when people go thru the proper channels just to get crimes investigated. 600 compliants and ..nada! and that is precisely why the international community is getting involved . because the politicos in israel, people in the government are in line with these types: http://mondoweiss.net/2012/09/influential-israeli-org-regavim-focused-on-expelling-palestinians-on-both-sides-of-the-green-line.html

        watch the video and wake up. we’re not idiots.

      • eljay on September 4, 2012, 8:25 pm

        >> How can I fairly get my thoughts and opinions across when I am forced to speak with half my mouth taped up and a hand tied behind my back?

        It’s funny as all f*cking hell to see a Zio-supremacist whining about fairly getting his thoughts and opinions across on a website, while Palestinians suffer REAL consequences – not “e-consequences” – at the hands of his Zio-supremacist co-collectivists and their oppressive, colonialist, expansionist and supremacist “Jewish State”.

        Poor little Zio-supremacist… :-(

      • American on September 4, 2012, 9:58 pm

        @ Mayhem

        Well I am probably not censored as much cause I ‘m not on the side of harming any innocent people or killing them……except I might want to harm a few uber zios come to think of it, but then I don’t consider them innocent.. LOL

        And I didn’t say anything about Jews in Australia not allowing others to speak against Israel or zionism. But it’s obvious zionist don’t want other Jews to criticize zionism or Israel… anywhere…in the world. Dont’ you read MW enough?….censorship efforts by the I -firsters are covered here all the time. Jews here who are critical of Israel get worst treatment from zios than we anti -zio- Israel gentiles do.

        Listen, you can yada, yada all you want in defense of the IDF…..too many people, all kinds of people from peace activist to US military liason officers to the IDF have witnessed how the IDF treats Palestines…old women, children, all of them.

        And don’t even try to tell us how IDF misdeeds should be turned over to Israel to handle….we have also all seen just how that works.
        Really, who you trying to kid here? If Israel had a record of addressing what the rouge IDF does these breaking the silence heroes wouldn’t have to ‘go outside’ Israel.

      • kapok on September 4, 2012, 10:51 pm

        “half my mouth taped up” lol, what is the sound of one lip flapping?

        Anyhoo, how do you know the invigilators aren’t censoring us anti-zios? Rhetorical question: you don’t know. I can affirm some of my own insightful rejoinders to you vacuous hasbarats have never made it passed this desktop.

      • Djinn on September 4, 2012, 11:17 pm

        Individual Australian Jews obviously hold a variety of viewpoints however it is a demonstrable fact that Jewish umbrella groups in Australia absolutely do attempt to stifle criticism of Israel. The banning of a panel discussing a new book “Beyond Tribal Loyalties” at Limmund Oz is a good recent example. That no major Jewish Organisation objected to Michael Danby, Ted Ballieu & others description of protestors as akin to Nazi blackshirts is another one (even though they regularly complain about people downplaying the Holocaust by referring to anything they don’t like as Nazis, I guess when those being denigrated are critics of Israel the slur is AOK). Mayhem if you can think of a single major Jewish organisation in Australia who are open to criticism of Israel (and I mean they actually practice that not just give it lip service) I’d love to hear it.

  4. DICKERSON3870 on September 4, 2012, 5:53 pm

    RE: “Fresh news about the Diaspora Jewish community’s refusal to hear about atrocities committed by Israel, let alone act on them . . .” ~ Weiss
    AND RE: “An­other Is­rael-bash­ing head­line”, “a fla­grantly one-sided piece” and “thread­bare and un­sub­stan­ti­ated ­allegations”… ~ Zion­ist spokes­peo­ple
    AND RE: “How sad it is that once-great broad­sheets like the Syd­ney Morn­ing Her­ald and The Age have been re­duced to fea­tur­ing crude pro­pa­ganda on their front page.” ~ Danny Lamm, Pres­i­dent of the Ex­ec­u­tive Coun­cil of Aus­tralian Jewry
    AND RE: “On days when hun­dreds of civil­ians were being killed in Syria, The Age and the Syd­ney Morn­ing Her­ald were re­hash­ing un­ver­i­fied re­hashed pro­pa­ganda against Is­rael.” ~ Michael Danby
    AND RE: “The re­sponses by the Jew­ish es­tab­lish­ment are noth­ing short of mean­ing­less in­tol­er­ance. And para­noia. In­creas­ingly the re­al­ity of Is­raeli crimes are en­ter­ing the main­stream and all they can do is bleat about pro­pa­ganda and Is­raeli moral­ity.” ~ Antony Loewenstein

    FROM WIKIPEDIA [Narcissism]:

    (EXCERPTS) Narcissism is a term with a wide range of meanings, depending on whether it is used to describe a central concept of psychoanalytic theory, a mental illness, a social or cultural problem, or simply a personality trait. . .
    . . . Hotchkiss identified what she called the seven deadly sins of narcissism:
    • Shamelessness: Shame is the feeling that lurks beneath all unhealthy narcissism, and the inability to process shame in healthy ways.
    • Magical thinking: Narcissists see themselves as perfect, using distortion and illusion known as magical thinking. They also use projection to dump shame onto others.
    • Arrogance: A narcissist who is feeling deflated may reinflate by diminishing, debasing, or degrading somebody else.
    • Envy: A narcissist may secure a sense of superiority in the face of another person’s ability by using contempt to minimize the other person.
    • Entitlement: Narcissists hold unreasonable expectations of particularly favorable treatment and automatic compliance because they consider themselves special. Failure to comply is considered an attack on their superiority, and the perpetrator is considered an “awkward” or “difficult” person [or perhaps an “anti-Semite” ~ J.L.D.]. Defiance of their will is a narcissistic injury that can trigger narcissistic rage.
    • Exploitation: Can take many forms but always involves the exploitation of others without regard for their feelings or interests. Often the other is in a subservient position where resistance would be difficult or even impossible. Sometimes the subservience is not so much real as assumed.
    • Bad boundaries: Narcissists do not recognize that they have boundaries and that others are separate and are not extensions of themselves. Others either exist to meet their needs or may as well not exist at all. Those who provide narcissistic supply to the narcissist are treated as if they are part of the narcissist and are expected to live up to those expectations. In the mind of a narcissist there is no boundary between self and other. . .

    . . . Thomas suggests that narcissists typically display most, sometimes all, of the following traits:[5]
    • An obvious self-focus in interpersonal exchanges
    • Problems in sustaining satisfying relationships
    • A lack of psychological awareness (see insight in psychology and psychiatry, egosyntonic)
    • Difficulty with empathy
    • Problems distinguishing the self from others (see narcissism and boundaries)
    • Hypersensitivity to any insults or imagined insults (see criticism and narcissists, narcissistic rage and narcissistic injury)
    • Vulnerability to shame rather than guilt
    • Haughty body language
    • Flattery towards people who admire and affirm them (narcissistic supply)
    • Detesting those who do not admire them (narcissistic abuse)
    • Using other people without considering the cost of doing so
    • Pretending to be more important than they really are
    • Bragging (subtly but persistently) and exaggerating their achievements
    • Claiming to be an “expert” at many things
    • Inability to view the world from the perspective of other people
    • Denial of remorse and gratitude

    SOURCE – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism

    • DICKERSON3870 on September 4, 2012, 6:07 pm

      P.S. ALSO SEE: “Is There a Way Beyond Israeli Madness?” [Will the Chosen People and the Exceptional People Go Down Together?] ~ by John Grant, Counterpunch, 8/31/12

      [EXCERPTS]

      “The patient, by the name of Israel, walks into the room and instantly bursts into a tirade of arguments conclusively proving his credentials, and says that he is better than everyone else.” ~ Ofer Grosbard, ‘Israel On The Couch: The Psychology of the Peace Process’

      Americans have an Israel problem. . .
      . . . The problem Americans have with Israel is that the region it exists in is in the midst of a major political sea change, while Israel is frozen in time and holding on to its militarist, right-wing policies of extending settlements in the West Bank. It’s a policy that harks back to the ideas of the British-trained militarist Ze’ev Jabotinsky’s Iron Wall, which is based on the idea a live-and-let-live policy between Jews and Arabs is impossible and, thus, Jews must militarily control and repress Palestinians [i.e. the mindset of the “pale” – J.L.D.] . . .

      . . . How does a people turn back a racially-oriented demonization program with roots that extend back many decades? How do you ratchet down a nation’s narcissism so people are able to simply see the other as a human being? . . .
      . . . On our part, Americans and the United States need to stop being a permissive yes-man and begin to show Israel some tough love. We need more US criticism of Israel. No doubt this approach will be received with gales of cynical laughter from hardliners . . . but so what?
      In my mind, the Israeli narcissistic and arrogant mindset would benefit from a little Buddhist detachment, more of the posture that sees the world not of separate individual selves and egos but of human beings as part of a larger flow of life. The Buddhists call the self-obsessed, separatist state-of-mind [i.e. the “pale” of Israel surrounded by Ze’ev Jabotinsky’s Iron Wall* – J.L.D.] that Israel thrives on and defends with weapons as “the illusory self.”
      “Once one identifies with a permanent self-concept, the pride and craving adhering to this become the pivot from which an egocentric world arises,” writes Gay Watson, a psychotherapist attuned to Buddhism.

      David Loy puts it this way: “To become completely groundless is also to become completely grounded, not in some particular, but in the whole network of interdependent relations that constitute the world.”
      I’m not suggesting Israel become a Buddhist nation. The point is for Israelis, and more important Americans, to figure a way out of the worsening condition of “us versus them” to avoid the need to obliterate them and set off a war that no one really wants. The point is to re-shape our minds to make “the other” less threatening to permit talking.
      I’m not holding my breath that Benjamin Netanyahu and Avigdor Lieberman are going to become peace activists. But I’m done as an American being a silent stooge [i.e. a habitual “enabler” ~ J.L.D.] while Israeli militarist madness fuels hatred and sets the stage for war.

      ENTIRE COMMENTARY – http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/08/31/is-there-a-way-beyond-israeli-madness/

  5. yourstruly on September 4, 2012, 6:51 pm

    the zionists operate on the premise that the best defense is a good offense. we should too, especially since we’re on the side of the slave (oppressed, occupied), whereas they’re on the side of the slaveowner (oppressor, occupier). conversely, we have nothing to be defensive about, they have a long and shameful history to be defensive about. what’s more, the zionists already are going ballistic, which has to mean they know that history has taken a decided turn towards freedom and justice. ride it and enjoy it! our time is here and now!

  6. Sumud on September 4, 2012, 7:10 pm

    I think someone at Fairfax (owner of The Age and the Sydney Morning Herald, and others) has taken a good hard look at Israel and Palestine in the last few months and decided that things are bad enough there that they’re going to start telling the TRUTH about the situation there. In yesterday’s paper:

    Cosmetics firm accused of plundering Dead Sea

    Not a lot of ambiguity in a title like that.

    There has been a regular swag of articles in the lately that I’ve been surprised by: simple truth telling but without the qualifications and muck that normally obscures the reality of I/P and keeps the general public in the dark.

    I read Breaking The Silence’s response to Danny Lamm that Phil quotes – it is FIERCE, read the whole thing, it will make your day.

    • seafoid on September 5, 2012, 4:56 am

      Thanks for the link Sumud. The problem for the Zionists is that nobody in goy Australia needs the settlements. They don’t add anything to anyone’s quality of life. If anything the hatred they generate is negative .

  7. RoHa on September 4, 2012, 9:58 pm

    I think Michael Danby is a traitor. Aside from his support for Israel, he is one of the MPs who blabs all to the US Embassy.

    http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/full-coverage/8484149/labor-mp-backs-us-but-denies-being-a-spy/

  8. Djinn on September 4, 2012, 11:22 pm

    Pretty much every major party Australian MP is guilty of US lapdoggery. I loathe Danby but I don’t think he’s any more guilty than others on the blabbing to the yanks score.

  9. Abdul-Rahman on September 5, 2012, 3:41 am

    “On days when hun­dreds of civil­ians were being killed in Syria, The Age and the Syd­ney Morn­ing Her­ald were re­hash­ing un­ver­i­fied re­hashed pro­pa­ganda against Is­rael.” So current or former Israeli soldiers are doing “propaganda” against themselves for some reason??! And of course the old “what about (insert blank country here)” supposed “argument” tactic! If that is the best you can do, you really have some problems!! http://mondoweiss.net/2012/07/the-what-about-china-syndrome.html

    The Zionists feigning “concern” about foreign countries is so transparent and pathetic. Also there is a SPECIAL reason for Westerners (be they Americans, the English, Canadians, French, Australians, Germans, Polish, etc. etc. etc.) to particularly focus on the crimes and misdeeds of the Israeli apartheid regime, the Israeli military and the Zionist’s decades long occupation of Palestinian land. I don’t recall any Western country supplying Bashar al-Assad with any weapons, I must have missed the memo when Assad received nuclear submarines from the Germans, or when Assad got his last shipment of US F-16 fighter jets, Apache Helicopters, US M-16 assault rifles, etc. etc. And I wasn’t aware there was an equivalent to the traitors and Israeli-firsters at AIPAC secretly called “ASPAC” (the American-SYRIAN Public Affairs Committee)! And I also don’t recall the US government fighting wars (that are a disaster for America and don’t serve any US interest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uX83lhntqk) on the behalf and at the behest of the supposed lobby of the Syrian government! This is quite typical behavior of course for shameless hasbara apologists. They also feigned supposed “concern” and interest in the Kurds of Turkey after the massacre committed by Israeli forces in international waters against the Freedom Flotilla the Mavi Marmara back in 2010: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/the-campaign-to-vilify-turkey-has-begun/

    Which is also “interesting” as before this the Israelis heavily supported their key Turkish allies against for example the Kurdish PKK movement in southeastern Turkey and the mountains of northern Iraq. The PKK’s currently imprisoned leader Abdullah Ocalan himself was captured in Kenya by Mossad operatives and then turned over to the Israeli’s Turkish allies back in 1999 http://www.wrmea.org/component/content/article/176/1931-capture-of-kurdish-rebel-leader-ocalan-recalls-mossad-collaboration-with-both-turkey-kurds.html

    And after the Flotilla in 2010, Zionist writers also started being okay with recognizing the Armenian genocide; that many of them had so firmly denied and spoke against that event being classified as a genocide http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG70UWESfu4 The sick “holocaust uniqueness” cult, that Jewish-American academic David Stannard thoroughly responded to, had long been denying the Armenian genocide for two specific reasons: 1) they held to the assertion that the Nazis crimes against the Jews in WW2 was allegedly the only act of genocide in human history (they also disgustingly wanted to exclude the Roma people aka the Gypsies from even being counted as Holocaust victims of the Nazis as well) putting aside real academics note even the Herero and Namaqua genocide in Africa done by the colonial Germans at the start of the 20th century (again the “holocaust uniqueness” people are a pretty sick cult who deny every other genocide in human history, as Professor David Stannard, historian and author of “American Holocaust: Columbus and the Conquest of the New World”, shows). And 2) it served the interests of Israel to also deny the Armenian genocide at the end of the Ottoman Empire for their Turkish ally (i.e. pre-Flotilla Turkey)

    And a last point, I have personally seen Zionist propagandists “respond” to events promoting justice in Palestine and calling for the ending of the occupation; by randomly going off on quite odd tangents about such things as a supposed “epidemic” of “honor killings”; which they don’t even keep on the topic of Palestine-Israel itself but go off randomly trying to malign Muslims in general http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/09/honor-killings-the-epidemic-that-isnt/. Which is also “special” given the fact that Palestinians aren’t all religious Muslim even to start with, putting the typical propaganda claims that Zionists often latch on to nowadays going along with often white supremacist Islamophobes, (i.e. there is still a significant Palestinian Christian minority; including Palestinian figures associated with famous armed resistance groups like George Habash the founder of the PFLP) and that the PLO itself under Arafat was explicitly secularist and pan-Arabist/Arab nationalist (somewhat similar to the Pan-Arabist Arab Baath Party). So again the fact Zionists refuse to stay on topic a good amount of the time, makes it quite clear just how flimsy their hasbara is getting these days.

    • seafoid on September 5, 2012, 4:58 am

      “. So again the fact Zionists refuse to stay on topic a good amount of the time, makes it quite clear just how flimsy their hasbara is getting these days.”

      The internet is fatal for hasbara. They have a very limited shit list and the more they repeat it the more obvious it is how they operate.

      I have yet to see a credible defender of Zionism who doesn’t resort to hasbara.

      • Mayhem on September 5, 2012, 8:02 pm

        This is my gripe.
        If I keep my comments within certain ill-defined guidelines I am allowed to speak. However if I cross into territory where I start to criticise the Palestinians for their behaviors then I get blocked. This is the sheer hypocrisy of MW.
        There is constant bleating about the transgressions of Israel and the complaints about Jews and Israelis not being 110% transparent, while at MW policies are practised that are completely in contradiction to what is expected from the Israeli side.
        You will never convince people with arguments that exploit the assistance of blatant bias, concealment and dishonesty.
        The expression ‘hasbara’ is convenient as a dismissive but there should be a term for the MW equivalent that is practised here with impunity (sic).

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