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Bored with the Jews

The other night at dinner I made the mistake of telling a relative of my wife that I am sick of repeating myself and so I’m thinking of moving on to other lost causes, global warming and overpopulation. This was great news in her view. She said that this website is way too negative, that we should be embracing John Kerry as a hopeful messenger, that our posts are a neverending parade of black crepe. I nodded diplomatically and said, She’s right, and it’s because this is a tragic situation, like visiting Algeria in 1958 and being hopeful. The tracks off the cliff have been laid…  

The morning after, in the kitchen of the resort house my wife’s extended family rents in Pennsylvania, my sister-in-law washed asparagus and made fun of me. By making that confession at dinner, she said, I would never hear the end of it. She affected a Katherine Hepburn drawl and said, “Phil-ip is borrrred of the Jews.” It was funny. Maybe you had to be there.

Listening to my very Christian relation mock me and the Jews in a high-church drawl, I thought about a landmark in the American discussion of Jews and Israel, Gore Vidal’s vicious essay on the Podhoretzes in 1986 in the Nation, called The Empire Lovers Strikes Back. I read it the other day because Vidal’s alleged anti-Semitism was being reassessed a year after his death in Salon. The piece eviscerated “Poddy,” as Vidal called Norman Podhoretz, and his wife Midge Decter, as dual loyalty cases who had no connection to the American history Vidal cherished– the Civil War was as distant to him as the “War of the Roses,” Podhoretz declared to Vidal– but were determined to bend American foreign policy to support Israel. Vidal denounced the neoconservatives as conservatives steeped in Zionism who were forging an alliance with Christian fundamentalists to build a lobby that was twisting foreign policy. If real American interests ever asserted themselves, Vidal said, Israel and its conflict with its neighbors would be as foreign to the U.S. as… the War of the Roses. Brilliant ending. 

Vidal’s piece had the whiff of anti-Semitism (as Scott McConnell notes) because Vidal was old school and entitled and looked on the rise of Jewish cultural power as un-American. But no matter his point of view, there was a rise in Jewish cultural and political power. How can anyone deny it. In 1970 Alan Dershowitz vowed to leave Harvard Law School unless they finally appointed a Jewish dean. Harvard did, Dershowitz stayed. Since then there have been several Harvard Law Jewish deans, the last one replacing another who went on to the Supreme Court, joining two other Jews. And John Kerry’s peace team is led by Frank Lowenstein (son of Allard) and Martin Indyk. And Israel’s war of the roses is the U.S.’s, forever, and the Jewish rise into the establishment is a key factor in that transformation.

That’s what’s boring. Every issue Gore Vidal wanted to talk about 27 years ago is alive and throbbing today. And Vidal was not a prophet. It was obvious. His statement that the neoconservatives were a Greater Israel crowd against a Peace Now crowd of good Jews who opposed the occupation is true today– when Andrew Sullivan tries to draw the line there. His belief that Zionist dual loyalty was a real problem is even truer in the wake of the Iraq war, when American and Israeli interests were conflated by the warmongering neocons who were no longer just writing for egghead magazines, as they were when Vidal got het up, they were counseling a moronic president. Vidal’s statement about the lobby and the Christian Zionists, spot on. His assertion that the battle between Jewish colonists and the Arabs should be as distant to the U.S. as the War of the Roses is perfectly reasonable– but today would be condemned as isolationist or America Firster.

That’s because his ideas were suppressed by the left. The Nation did nothing to anchor his claims in the decades that followed. In fact, it walked away from them. Like Tony Judt’s call for a one-state solution in the New York Review of Books in 2003, which also brought a tsunami of angry protests from Leon Wieseltier and Michael Walzer and all the good liberal Zionists, it was territory conquered at huge cost by Jewish editors, then left undefended.

So the battle raged on, and the mystification continued, and essential intellectual and journalistic labors were wasted. A lot of bodies left in the barbed wire, for territory the left disdained.

But necessary territory. I published an essay in support of Walt and Mearsheimer in the Nation in 2006, but many Nation readers resisted it, as they resisted Vidal, and it’s not like the Nation is talking about the Israel lobby and the neocons. No. The subject has got that whiff. Just like, “Phi-lip is borrrred with the Jewwws” has got that whiff.

An essential conversation (about the neocons and the lobby and the Democratic Party and American interest and the war of the Roses) will never happen until American Jews, who wield such cultural power, are secure enough that a manner of earnest satirical discourse that is perfectly acceptable, and essential, when it comes to say, Christian fundamentalists and choice, or Republicans and gay rights, is permitted on the subject of the lobby and Israel.

Which is why we repeat ourselves, over and over again. You’d be bored too.

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That’s a bummer about Dershowitz. Harvard should have waited for him to resign and then appointed a Jewish dean.

Jews are boring cuz they never stop talking about themselves.

(Well okay a big chunk of them can’t).

Until American jews are secure enough to “have the conversation”?

That’s like waiting for the messiah, I fear.

A wait made all the longer because as israel goes into the bunker, the establishment American jews will hanker down with them. While dragging the rest of the American ‘”establishment” with them. Who then try to drag the rest of the American people with them (all 300 M of them by last count?). even as the “grand establishment” (what passes for American media included) do their best to rope in the rest of the world.

But the bunker is not large or deep enough and too many keep venturing out of the den (think Snowden).

And all we (collective Mondoweissers) have in our arsenal to put up against the bunker mentality is endless repetition. of course, arabs (and palestinians) have another word for that – “Sumud”. The Jews just do it with words and a snark.

In support of more “boredom” would it help to point out that something IS changing and it’s not quite in the direction Phil and many others here hoped for? Because the change iI speak of s not really happening among “the Jews”, and “the jews” (good, bad, whatever) can’t control the nature of that change – or its timing. BECAUSE when they don’t want to have “those conversations”, and forbid them from being out in the open when the time has come for them to be had, instead of conversation we get murmurs, which are spreading even as they are getting darker.

Away from the East Coast enclaves, I meet more and more people who don’t find jewish jokes and jokers all that funny any longer. They are resisting the funny. And not a few are starting to resist the smart.

And speaking of conversations – I’d have more to say (would ya’ believe that?), but since comments are so slow to update and threads shut down as soon as it gets interesting, why add fuel to the fire(s)? it’s not like I am out of wood or anything…

An essential conversation (about the neocons and the lobby and the Democratic Party and American interest and the war of the Roses) will never happen until American Jews, who wield such cultural power, are secure enough that a manner of earnest satirical discourse that is perfectly acceptable, and essential, when it comes to say, Christian fundamentalists and choice, or Republicans and gay rights, is permitted on the subject of the lobby and Israel.

Don’t discount the possibility that the non-Jewish majority won’t claim back enough of control over political disourse that such a conversation will take place with or without Jewish assent.

””Phil-ip is borrrred of the Jews.” It was funny. Maybe you had to be there.””

It is sort of funny. Injecting some humor(ous) (ridicule) into the Zio/Isr can of worms might be “helpful” as Hillary says.
However as I suggested recently—- discuss USA-Isr-Zionism as if it’s not connected to the Jews and the Jewish story. Just refuse to accept or even debate the holocaust justifcations, anti semitism they use and put the discussion on the here and now bottom line it really belongs on re the US and will likely get to eventually—the Zio cabal’s/Israel interest vr American people interest.
If you’re going to argue against US I-Firstdom you have to argue *your own* or US interest against their interest….you cant give their interest any quarter or compromise because if you do you’ve made it *debatable* whose interest comes first. It shouldnt even be debatable.
There is no nation in the world that I know of or ever read about that put another country’s interest ahead of it’s own in any critical sectors the way the current US has.
And yes this applies to more than just the zionist interest, it’s a US leadership corruption and disease that affects many issues.