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Former Australian PM Julia Gillard

Former Australian PM Julia Gillard

Yesterday I did a short post on the stunning criticism of the Israel lobby’s influence in Australia coming from a former Australian foreign minister, Bob Carr, whose memoir says that Jewish donors so preyed on the mind of a liberal prime minister that she wouldn’t let him utter a word of criticisms against Israeli settlements.

Well, sunshine is the best disinfectant, and this story just gets bigger and bigger. It’s in Haaretz (my postscript); and the Australian media are taking seriously Carr’s assertions that the lobby’s influence is “unhealthy” and that it has too much access to policymakers. The story has been propelled by lobby charges of bigotry against Carr, who trots out the usual; he recommended a Holocaust book as the most important book of the last 100 years in a book he wrote about reading. And by the fact that Carr published text messages between himself and former P.M. Julia Gillard.

First, Carr states his case plainly in an interview on Australian Broadcasting Corp. He says it’s the rightwing lobby, and that it’s banjaxed Australian opposition to the settlement project:

SARAH FERGUSON: Let’s go to the book. The strongest criticism of all in the book is aimed at the Melbourne Jewish lobby. Now, there are lobby groups for every cause under the sun. What’s wrong with the way that group operates?

BOB CARR: Well the important point about a diary of a Foreign minister is that you shine light on areas of government that are otherwise in darkness and the influence of lobby groups is one of those areas. And what I’ve done is to spell out how the extremely conservative instincts of the pro-Israel lobby in Melbourne was exercised through the then-Prime Minister’s office. And I speak as someone who was in agreement with Julia Gillard’s agenda on everything else. But I’ve got to say, on this one, I found it very frustrating that we couldn’t issue, for example, a routine expression of concern about the spread of Israeli settlements on the West Bank. Great blocks of housing for Israeli citizens going up on land that everyone regards as part of a future Palestinian state, if there is to be a two-state solution resolving the standoff between Palestinians and Israelis in the Middle East.

SARAH FERGUSON: You’re saying that the Melbourne Jewish lobby had a direct impact on foreign policy as it was operated from inside Julia Gillard’s cabinet?

BOB CARR: Yeah, I would call it the Israeli lobby – I think that’s important. But certainly they enjoyed extraordinary influence. I had to resist it and my book tells the story of that resistance coming to a climax when there was a dispute on the floor of caucus about my recommendation that we don’t block the Palestinian bid for increased non-state status at the United Nations.

SARAH FERGUSON: They’re still a very small group of people. How do you account for them wielding so much power?

BOB CARR: I think party donations and a program of giving trips to MPs and journalists to Israel. But that’s not to condemn them. I mean, other interest groups do the same thing. But it needs to be highlighted because I think it reached a very unhealthy level. I think the great mistake of the pro-Israel lobby in Melbourne is to express an extreme right-wing Israeli view rather than a more tolerant liberal Israeli view, and in addition to that, to seek to win on everything, to block the Foreign Minister of Australia through their influence with the Prime Minister’s office, from even making the most routine criticism of Israeli settlement policy using the kind of language that a Conservative Foreign secretary from the UK would use in a comparable statement at the same time.

Note that Carr is saying precisely what Walt and Mearsheimer wrote eight years ago and were also accused of bigotry for saying: It’s not Jews, it’s the lobby, which represents a conservative segment of that community; and the lobby has a “stranglehold” on our foreign policy.

Carr knew what he was saying would be explosive. Maybe that’s why he published diary entries verbatim, and text messages that he exchanged with Julia Gillard, showing the penetration of the lobby into decisionmaking about the Middle East.

“The book would not have been truthful with this disagreement between a prime minister and her foreign minister edited out,” Mr Carr told Fairfax Media, explaining his decision to publish Ms Gillard’s private text messages without consent, despite asking other officials for permission to publish correspondence.

“The public should know how foreign policy gets made, especially when it appears the prime minister is being heavily lobbied by one interest group with a stake in Middle East policy.”…

In diary entries Mr Carr reveals just how deep his division with Ms Gillard went. He complains that Ms Gillard would not even let him criticise Israeli West Bank settlements due to her fear it would anger Australia’s pro-Israel lobby – a reference to the Melbourne-based Australia/Israel & Jewish Affairs Council – which Mr Carr says had a direct line into the prime minister’s office.

“So, we can’t even ‘express concern’ without complaint,” Mr Carr writes. “This lobby must fight every inch.”

Reproducing private text messages, Mr Carr suggests Ms Gillard’s support of Israel was so immovable that she would not even allow him to change Australia’s vote on what he considered to be a minor UN motion.

“Julia – motion on Lebanon oil spill raises no Palestinian or Israel security issues. In that context I gave my commitment to Lebanon,” Mr Carr writes in a text message.

“No reason has been given to me to change,” Ms Gillard reportedly replies.

“Julia – not so simple,” Mr Carr responds. “I as Foreign Minister gave my word. I was entitled to because it had nothing to do with Palestinian status or security of Israel.”

Ms Gillard shuts him down in a final terse message: “Bob … my jurisdiction on UN resolutions isn’t confined to ones on Palestine and Israel.”

Did you see where Carr said that the Israel lobby has a direct line into the P.M.’s office? Now read some of this interview on ABC of a leading Israel lobbyistMark Leibler, national chairman of the Australia-Israel and Jewish Affairs Council. ABC interviewer Tony Jones is obviously disturbed that he had such access to the P.M.

MARK LEIBLER: I think Bob doesn’t miss a trick. I mean, if anything’s calculated to sell books. Just unpick for a moment what he’s saying. He’s talking about the Jewish lobby, he’s talking about a difference of opinion between him and the Prime Minister. Why can’t they have a difference of opinion on a matter related to Israeli policy? No, if there’s a difference of opinion, the Prime Minister has to be controlled or influenced by someone. So the Prime Minister has to be wrong ’cause she’s controlled by the Jewish lobby. …

TONY JONES: Let me ask you a very simple question: did you have direct access to Julia Gillard when she was Prime Minister and were you able to express serious concerns to her directly about policy over Israel?

MARK LEIBLER: We had – I had opportunities to talk to the Prime Minister on -not only about Israel – I had more contact with her about indigenous issues than I did in relation to Israel. She very quickly formed her own view and I didn’t see that there was any need for me to intervene.

TONY JONES: OK, but I guess what you’re saying is on a reasonably regular basis you were able to talk to her about concerns that you had, is that correct?

MARK LEIBLER: If I wanted to raise concerns, I would have been able to raise them with her, as I was able to raise them with Kevin Rudd, with John Howard, with Paul Keating, with Bob Hawke and even with Malcolm Fraser. No different.

TONY JONES: So what you’re saying is you get a fair bit of access to prime ministers and have had for a long time, but …


TONY JONES: … you’re arguing there’s nothing sinister about that?

MARK LEIBLER: Absolutely. By the way, I’m not unique in that respect. I mean, there are many other people who have far greater access to prime ministers, present and past, than I do, but that’s part of a democracy.

TONY JONES: No doubt. But your role as a lobbyist is well-known, so well-known that the Israeli newspaper, Haaretz, described you recently as a key fundraiser for the lobby and the man who maintained close relations with prime ministers, both in Australia and Israel, over many years. Do you see yourself as a kind of go-between between the Israeli Government and Australian prime ministers?

MARK LEIBLER: Absolutely not. I mean, there are excellent relations between the Prime Minister of Australia, both the current one and the former one, and the Prime Minister of Israel. They don’t need any intermediaries.

TONY JONES: Yeah. I guess no-one here is saying there’s anything to be ashamed of, but the problem only arises when the former Foreign minister claims that the influence of the lobby was very unhealthy…. Well, when you actually get to read the book, what you’ll find out is that he recalls… a private meeting in the boardroom of Arnold Bloch Leibler, which you chaired before that breakfast meeting – in other words, the day before – in which he says you addressed him with a “how-dare-you” tone – this is how he puts it – a “how-dare-you” tone over these issues, particularly the issue of whether there should be enhanced Palestinian representation in the United Nations.

MARK LEIBLER: Well, that is – unfortunately, that doesn’t – that just didn’t happen. I mean, the meeting took place, and I must say, we had our differences of opinion, but the main purpose of the meeting was for me to get across the message to him that we were no right-wing extremists, that our views were identical to all mainstream Jewish organisations, and that as far as the settlements are concerned, there were legitimate differences within the Jewish community and within Israel in relation to settlements being an obstacle to peace. But what – if I can put it in a nutshell, what all of the Jewish community organisations objected to was a single-minded focus on settlements, as if, you know, stopping settlement activity would suddenly lead to peace, overlooking the fact that Hamas was lobbing rockets into Israel at the time, that – I can go through a whole series of things, but – it’s complicated.

TONY JONES: Sure. But let me just take you back to this meeting, ’cause what he focuses here is, as I said before, what he described as your “how-dare-you” tone, as in, as he puts it, “How dare you consider voting to allow the Palestinians to have greater representation or enhanced representation at the United Nations.” Now, I suppose what he’s saying is that there are two different Mark Leiblers – there’s the one behind the scenes and then there’s the public one at that breakfast meeting with a more conciliatory tone which he obviously appreciated.

MARK LEIBLER: Well, all I can say is that his recollection of that meeting does not accord with my recollection of that meeting. Yes, by the way, it was a heated discussion, but I wasn’t hectoring him and I wasn’t lecturing him, but I was explaining very clearly where we differed and where we agreed and that set the basis and led to the tone of what was, I think, a very successful meeting. He was delighted with it and very pleased with it….

TONY JONES: Sure. Do you think – let’s put it this way: do you think you have considerably more influence over Australian prime ministers than, say, for example, Palestinian representatives?

MARK LEIBLER: I really don’t know. They don’t take me to their meetings.

TONY JONES: (Laughs) No, I don’t imagine they do… Mark Leibler, just finally, to make the final point, it’s a pretty obvious one, really: I suppose what you’re saying to Bob Carr is that you will continue to speak when you can to prime ministers and Foreign ministers and proffer advice from this lobby that he describes.

MARK LEIBLER: Well, I would hope that that’s how things are supposed to function in a democracy. I mean, there are other places where when you express your views or try to lobby, you end up in jail or you end up being shot. This is part of the hallmark of Australia’s wonderful democracy and it’s something that everyone can participate in.

TONY JONES: And just to finish the point, do you think you will get the same access or even more to the Tony Abbott Government that you got with the Julia Gillard Government?

MARK LEIBLER: Well, when we’ve got an issue which is a serious one which needs to be raised, we haven’t had a problem in getting access to either ALP or Liberal prime ministers or Foreign ministers and so it should be. By the way, we’re not the only ones. Basically, any representative of a community organisation, if they’ve got something serious to raise, they’ll get the access that they need.

TONY JONES: Mark Leibler, we’ll have to leave you there. Thank you very much for coming to join us live on the program tonight.

MARK LEIBLER: My pleasure.

Amazing. In the full interview, you will see that Liebler says that many Jews oppose settlements, but what all Jewish organizations “objected to was a single-minded focus on settlements, as if, you know, stopping settlement activity would suddenly lead to peace.” The same line that almost all major Jewish orgs took on Obama in 2009-2011.

But I’m stunned that Carr has been able to blow a bridge that Jimmy Carter, James Baker, Colin Powell, Paul Findley and Walt and Mearsheimer could not blow: the mainstream bar on talking about this stuff.

So, when is this story going to make “60 Minutes”? I guess they’ll think about that tomorrow, to quote Scarlett O’Hara.

P.S. Haaretz has covered the story with these blunt headlines: “Former Australian FM denounces Jewish lobby’s ‘extraordinary influence’. In new book, Bob Carr claims office of former Australian PM Julia Gillard was effectively held hostage by Jewish lobby.”

Haaretz calls out the Greater Israel crowd: “Carr claims the ‘extreme right-wing’ pro-Israel lobby in Melbourne wielded ‘extraordinary influence’ on Gillard” — who is of course a liberal politician.

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  1. on April 10, 2014, 10:54 am

    It is obvious that we have exactly the same chronic problem in the USA only worse. It is clearly at play from Obama all the way down the food chain. The pressure to change the fact that Kerry recently blamed Israel for the breakdown in the peace talks, is the latest example of this money machine in action to suppress, distort and change the truth. These crude and deceitful activities are a threat to democracy all over the world. Let’s pray that the effect of Bob Carr’s exposure of the lobby in Australia will encourage others, including journalists, that there are positive and rewarding reasons to continue this exposure of foreign policy distortions caused by money from the Israeli lobby in many counties especially the USA, UK, France and Australia to name but a few.

  2. hophmi on April 10, 2014, 12:54 pm

    “But I’m stunned that Carr has been able to blow a bridge that Jimmy Carter, James Baker, Colin Powell, Paul Findley and Walt and Mearsheimer could not blow: the mainstream bar on talking about this stuff.”

    Since this bridge never existed in the first place, there was nothing to blow.

  3. Sumud on April 10, 2014, 1:56 pm

    (Concurrent events for two quoted articles below from late June 2010:
    May 31, 2010 – really shocking Israeli raid on humanitarian flotilla to Gaza killing 9 activists and injuring more than 50.
    June 24, 2010 – leadership spill and Julia Gillard ousts Kevin Rudd as PM.)

    Recall that PM Julia Gillard’s partner Tim Mathieson, formerly a hairdresser, was employed in late 2009 by a leading Australian Israel lobbyist Albert Dadon:

    Ms Gillard had disclosed to the register of MPs’ interests that Mr Mathieson started work with Ubertas in November 2009. In June 2009, she and Mr Mathieson had led other Australian politicians, including Liberals Christopher Pyne and Peter Costello, in Jerusalem at the first Australia Israel Leadership Forum.
    At a second forum in December 2009, also addressed by Kevin Rudd, she acknowledged Mr Dadon and his wife for their support of the forum.

    A former Australian ambassador to Israel, Ross Burns, had accused Ms Gillard in a letter to The Sydney Morning Herald of being silent on the ”excesses” of Israel and questioned why Mr Mathieson had been given the job by Mr Dadon.
    ”I’ve made up my own views about Israel and made them publicly known well before there was any suggestion that my partner would work in a property group associated with Mr Dadon,” Ms Gillard said.

    PM defends partner’s property job

    Mathieson resigned from his position with Dadon’s company later in 2010 apparently.

    Most of the article from one day prior to above outlining Ross Burn’s concerns about Gillard’s and the governments position on Israel:

    Ms Gillard has been part of the Australian delegation to the last two meetings of the Australia Israel Leadership Forum, founded by the Melbourne property developer Albert Dadon.
    Mr Dadon employs Ms Gillard’s partner, Tim Mathieson, as a real estate salesman, at Ubertas. Mr Burns said yesterday that Ms Gillard was at the forum’s inaugural meeting in Israel last June, six months after the Israeli army invaded the Gaza Strip, killing more than 1000 Palestinians.
    She was also the acting prime minister when the invasion took place, and issued a statement at the time criticising the Palestinian group Hamas for firing rockets into southern Israel. It did not condemn Israel for causing civilian casualties.
    The former prime minister, Kevin Rudd, and the Foreign Affairs Minister, Stephen Smith, have since expressed unease at the subsequent blockade of Gaza by Israel.
    ”It looks a bit funny when you go on this tour to promote bilateral relations, but you don’t seem to have any reservations about the issue that was number one on the horizon,” Mr Burns said.
    Another former Australian ambassador to Tel Aviv, Peter Rodgers, who served in the Israeli capital from 1994 to 1997, also criticised the government’s attitude towards Israel.
    He said last night that under successive governments, Australia’s approach to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict had become increasingly unbalanced, and that this was unlikely to change under Ms Gillard’s stewardship.
    ”There’s been a marked swing away from the old attempt to be even-handed on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, to a much more determined pro-Israeli position, and I think Gillard is part of that,” Mr Rodgers said.
    The Herald sought comments from Ms Gillard, Michael Danby, a prominent Jewish federal MP – and a supporter of Ms Gillard in last week’s leadership coup – and Mr Dadon for this article, but received no response.

    Former ambassadors question silence on the ‘excesses’ of Israel

    • lysias on April 10, 2014, 3:06 pm

      Didn’t the Aussie Israel lobby play a big role in deposing Kevin Rudd as PM and replacing him with Gillard? (Not to downplay the also important U.S. influence to the same effect.)

      • Sumud on April 10, 2014, 10:10 pm

        I heard rumours to that effect lysias but don’t know of anything substantial.

        Earlier in 2010 Rudd’s government was vocally critical of Israel after it was discovered that 4 Australian passports had been stolen and used in the murder of the Hamas guy in Dubai, from memory Rudd changed an Australian I/P related vote at the UN from a NO to ABSTAIN. Also Mossad’s station chief in Australai was expelled. Other than that he was consistently pro-Israel.

        After being deposed, he went to a BDS-targetted Max Brenner here in Melbourne with Danby and various other pro-Israel jewish politicians (and the media) to have a hot chocolate and tell the community that BDS was comparable to the nazi boycott of jewish business in pre-war Germany. That struck me as a very odd thing to do …you could interpret it as a mea culpa of sorts, but without inside information it remains speculation.

      • Shingo on April 10, 2014, 10:14 pm

        Yes Lysias,

        I heard reports that Rudd’s denunciation of Israel’s actions against the Mavi Marmara started the ball rolling.

      • Sumud on April 11, 2014, 12:01 am

        Sounds like Rudd was rather more pissed at Israel (then conciliatory) in the first half of 2010 than I realised:

        What am I, chopped liver? How Rudd dived into schmooze mode

        The UN vote that Rudd changed from a NO to ABSTAIN was calling for action against Israel over their bloodbath in Gaza in 2008/9. I wonder if that can of worms will be re-opened if Abbas goes to the ICC?

      • RoHa on April 11, 2014, 7:39 am

        The standard story is that opposition to the mining tax was the main influence behind the dumping of Nice Mr. Rudd. However, when we put together Rudd’s actions (expelling a diplomat) over Israel’s misuse of Australian passports, the fact that Danby was one of the traitors running to the US embassy to blab about cabinet discussions, the fact that the US can’t blow its nose without Israeli permission, and the fact that The Very Wonderful Julia “no carbon tax” Gillard was living with an agent for Israel (how direct a line do you want?), some of us feel that our suspicions about Israeli lobby involvement are at least as justifiable as the inordinate length of this sentence.

    • Inanna on April 12, 2014, 12:11 am

      Sumud, you may recall during the last Gaza offensive, just after Labor was voted in, Gillard was acting PM while Rudd was on holiday. She gave a statement to the media that was what you’d expect the lobby wanted but I found her demeanour telling. She was nervous and shaky and was parsing her words very, very carefully. I think that someone had made it clear to her what was at stake and as someone who was seeking power, she sold herself to the highest bidder.

      • Sumud on April 12, 2014, 3:06 am

        Thanks I didn’t see that Inanna, I was travelling through that time period – do you know if there’s any footage around of her then?

  4. thankgodimatheist on April 10, 2014, 7:45 pm

    Pulling the wool over our eyes, Mr Leibler, have you no sense of decency (and I will not talk of shame)?

  5. Shingo on April 10, 2014, 7:58 pm

    But I’m stunned that Carr has been able to blow a bridge that Jimmy Carter, James Baker, Colin Powell, Paul Findley and Walt and Mearsheimer could not blow: the mainstream bar on talking about this stuff.

    While I too am a little surprise Phil, it’s not that big a shock. The social and political culture in Australia isn’t like the US. There has always been a healthy contempt and cynicism for those in power. That makes it much more difficult for the ruling class to frame the debate or act as gatekeepers.

    As a consequence, the Israeli lobby has to be far more subtle and keep a far lower profile here than AIPAC’s vulgar displays. In fact, I was not even aware of obvious Zionist organizations until I went to the gym the other day and saw a water bottle someone had left behind with a Zionist organization label on it.

    Israel is not sacrosanct here, and I believe that it’s approval is in the negative digits. Bear in mind that Miko Peled was also invited to Canberra to address a conference with politician from both sides and given a very warm welcome.

    Also, don’t forget that the ABC recently produced that superb document earth, Stone Cold Justice.

    • Krauss on April 11, 2014, 12:02 am

      Shorter Shingo: Australia is a great country.

      I tend to agree.

      • Shingo on April 11, 2014, 12:16 am

        Shorter Shingo: Australia is a great country.

        That’s a matter of opinion, but the social attitudes here are less tolerant of elitism and less prone to hero worship. Russel Crowe complained that it was something he disliked about Australia – that it doesn’t revere it’s leaders enough.

  6. Mayhem on April 10, 2014, 9:00 pm

    This talk of ‘over-influential’ Jews reminds us vividly of what happened in Nazi Germany.

    • Sumud on April 10, 2014, 11:48 pm

      Unlike Israel – and nazi Germany – all Australians have full equal rights, none are denied the vote and discrimination (racial, religious, other) is prohibited by law.

      Unlike Israel – and nazi Germany – we do not invade foreign countries transferring our citizens into overseas settlements, plunder the occupied territories and commit multiple instances of war crimes and crimes against humanity against the occupied population.

      Take a look in the mirror Mayhem, try to be honest.

      That you would equate discussion of a visible lobby group for a foreign country with naziism and the holocaust reflects your unhinged mental state, but not a lot more.

      • red-jos on April 11, 2014, 9:12 am

        Like Israel – and Nazi Germany – not all Australians have equal rights, and the plight of the indigenous communities is a national and international disgrace.
        Australia, together with the USA, UK and other imperial powers invades foreign countries transferring our citizens into overseas settlements, plundering occupied territories – think Bouganville and other places around the Pacific region, and commit endless instances of war crimes and crimes against humanity.
        The Israel lobby in Australia run by Jews, many of whose families were Holocaust survivors, are Australian citizens working for a foreign country’s interests – Israel’s – so, are they Australians or Israelis, and if their sympathies are with apartheid Israel why don’t they go and live there?
        Mannie De Saxe

      • Shingo on April 11, 2014, 10:56 am

        Like Israel – and Nazi Germany – not all Australians have equal rights, and the plight of the indigenous communities is a national and international disgrace.

        I agree that the plight of the indigenous communities is a national and international disgrace and source of shame, but that is not to say aborigines do not have the same rights (and more deservedly) than any other Australians.

        The issue of the indigenous communities is a problem that is very difficult to fix. Throwing money at the problem without rehabilitation and hands on assistance has
        not worked, but the intervention violated the dignity of these people.

      • Mayhem on April 13, 2014, 9:51 am

        Sumud, you don’t seem to care if you stir up a little anti-Semitism. Anti-Semitism for you is like dust – it will eventually settle. If you happen to hurt a few Jews in the process of fighting for your precious Palestinian cause then that is of no concern. Jew hatred is prevalent in Muslim communities in Australia but that doesn’t seem to bother you. You suck up to multiculturalism like it is some kind of ethnic lollipop.

        Remember when the Grand Mufti of Australia, Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohammed, Australia’s senior Islamic cleric threatened to withdraw community support for federal Labor in Western Sydney if union leader Paul Howes replaced Bob Carr in the Senate. A leaked email reveals what he said:
        “Paul has had a repeated pattern of blind bias toward Israel. His appointment would not at all help the -engagement effort between the ALP and the wider Muslim community.

        “As you know we have worked very hard to marshal our community to support and successfully retain the majority of ALP seats in Western Sydney against all odds, and the choice of Paul will threaten our efforts to maintain this momentum, especially if new elections are called in the next year.”

        Now this is the kind of corrupt, nefarious influence that is despicable in our country, not the efforts of Jews who have contributed so much more to the well-being of Australia than Muslims who outnumber them 5:1 and dominate the crime statistics in the suburbs where they live.

      • Shingo on April 13, 2014, 8:37 pm

        If you happen to hurt a few Jews in the process of fighting for your precious Palestinian cause then that is of no concern.

        Zionists saw no problem with hurting hundreds of thousands of Palestinians to create Israel. Of course, no Jews would be hurt by forcing Israel to comply with international law.

        A leaked email reveals what he said:
        “Paul has had a repeated pattern of blind bias toward Israel. His appointment would not at all help the -engagement effort between the ALP and the wider Muslim community.

        There is not one iota of anti Semitism in that statement. A blind bias toward Israel, which is usually Islamophobic, would indeed be destructive to the engagement effort between the ALP and the wider Muslim community.

        Nor there any suggestion of corruption or nefarious influence. Mind you, if you find this despicable in our country, you evidently must be equally disgusted with Jewish communities marshalling their community.

        Againm what Jews have contributed for the well-being of Australia is irrelevant to the debate and does not grant them more rights than any other Australians in influencing foreign policy.

        You’re racism and supremacy is very un Australian.

  7. Ellen on April 11, 2014, 12:28 am

    Both Julia Gillard and (take a deep breath) Ayann Hirsi Ali will be speaking at Maryville University in St. Louis under the St. Louis Speakers Series.

    It does not take too much imagination to understand the real purpose of this speakers series. (Just look at the line up of their speakers.)

    Both these ladies should speak. Hopefully there will be opportunity for public dialogue.

  8. straightline on April 11, 2014, 12:53 am

    This from the aftermath of the firing of Rudd and installation of Gillard:

    Note the quote from that other Jerusalem Prize winner Greg Sheridan – Foreign Editor of the Australian. And this:

    ‘She wants to be Australia’s first female prime minister and she knows that means currying favour with the Jews’.” (Australia renews its love affair with Israel, Dan Goldberg,, 10/12/09)

    Jews amount to 0.3% of the Australian population. Muslims on the other hand comprise 2.2% of the population and their number is increasing.

  9. Pixel on April 11, 2014, 8:02 am
  10. John Salisbury on April 11, 2014, 2:54 pm

    Australian P.M. Tony Abbott,when Opposition Leader in 2012 said…”When Israel is fighting for its very life,well, in those circumstances ,as far as I’m concerned Australians are Israelis.We are all Israelis in those circumstances.”

    So we are going from bad to worse here in Australia Phil.

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