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The body of Mohammed Abu Khdeir is carried aloft towards the mosque. (Photo: Matthew Vickery)

The body of Mohammed Abu Khdeir is carried aloft towards the mosque. (Photo: Matthew Vickery)

Tensions in the Palestinian neighbourhood of Shufat in East Jerusalem ignited today as mourners laid Mohammed Abu Khdeir, the 17-year-old kidnap victim to rest. Grief and anger collided, creating a volatile atmosphere that lead to intense clashes with Israeli forces who surrounded the neighborhood.

Photos of heavy clashes, fires, destroyed tramlines and rubble ridden roads have circulated around social media from the neighbourhood since the discovery of Abu Khdeir’s burnt body on Wednesday morning. However all of these previous clashes came to a peak after Abu Khdeir was laid to rest this afternoon.

Young men run from tear gas on Shufat's main street. The light rail station was burned and destroyed the night Abu Khdeir's body was discovered. (Photo: Matthew Vickery)

Young men run from tear gas on Shufat’s main street. The light rail station was burned and destroyed the night Abu Khdeir’s body was discovered. (Photo: Matthew Vickery)

“We can’t bare this. It’s too much to consider that something like this could happen to Mohammed. The way they found his body wasn’t human,” a cousin of Abu Khdeir told Mondoweiss, pausing for a moment to gather himself before continuing, “He was the quietest, sweetest boy. His heart was pure.”

Abu Khdeir’s body was found early Wednesday morning. Witnesses at the scene of his disappearance have reported previously that the teenager was forced into a car which then fled the scene. Abu Khdeir was seen next lying in a forest after being killed, burned, and then dumped there by his killers.

Abu Khdeir’s family and friends believe his death was a revenge killing carried out by settlers after the bodies of three young settlers, Gilad, Naftali and Eyal, were discovered near Hebron on June 30th after they went missing during a kidnapping on June 12th near the illegal Israeli settlement of Gush Etzion. The notion that Abu Khdeir’s death was a revenge killing is well supported, backed up by witness statements and multiple “pricetag” attacks reported over the last few days.

Relative of Abu Khdeir's mourns his death. (Photo: Matthew Vickery)

Relative of Abu Khdeir’s mourns his death. (Photo: Matthew Vickery)

Abu Khdeir’s body was released from Israeli authorities today following a day long wait filled with anger and destruction throughout the village. On Thursday, Abu Khdeir’s family and friends waited all day and night for his body to be returned to Shufat to carry out the funeral, only for it to be held for another day.

According to Muslim tradition, the dead must be buried before sundown on the day of the death.

“We couldn’t even bury him with dignity,” his cousin said. “This is the most difficult, he is a martyr, the most honored of all deaths and he couldn’t be buried with dignity.”

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Posters of Abu Khdeir strung along the streets of Shufat. (Photo: Matthew Vickery)

Posters of Abu Khdeir were strung across the street, in tandem with Ramadan light decorations —  the same decorations that Mohammed had helped to put up just days earlier with friends.

His family now have an empty spot at their table over the holy month of Ramadan.

Mourners pray at Shufat mosque before funeral march. (Photo: Matthew Vickery)

Mourners pray at Shufat mosque before funeral march. (Photo: Matthew Vickery)

Large crowds gather on Shufat's main street, waiting the arrival of Abu Khdeir's remains. (Photo: Matthew Vickery)

Large crowds gather on Shufat’s main street, waiting the arrival of Abu Khdeir’s remains. (Photo: Matthew Vickery)

Draped in a Palestinian flag, young men of Shufat joined hands and formed a barrier to create a path for Abu Khdeir’s body to pass into the mosque. The crowds were at times up to six people deep on each side along the funeral path.

“He was the nicest person, friendly, quiet and liked by everyone, I can’t believe this happened to him” a friend of Abu Khdeir, who wished to remain anonymous, told Mondoweiss. “I am in shock, Shufat is in shock.”

Streets of Shufat filled with mourners as Mohammed Abu Khdeir's body is carried in a green casket in the foreground. (Photo: Matthew Vickery)

Streets of Shufat filled with mourners as Mohammed Abu Khdeir’s body is carried in a green casket in the foreground. (Photo: Matthew Vickery)

After leaving the mosque, Abu Khdeir’s body was carried in a casket along Shufat’s main street. The funeral procession was met by IDF soldiers and Israeli police who begun to fire tear gas and rubber-coated-steel bullets at the procession to stop it marching further. Clashes broke out between both sides up until Iftar, around 7:30 pm.

Israeli forces line up outside Shufat neighbourhood before the funeral. (Photo: Matthew Vickery)

Israeli forces line up outside Shufat neighbourhood before the funeral. (Photo: Matthew Vickery)

The anger at increasing settler violence and recent IDF aggression during Operation Brother’s Keeper was palpable in the air. An atmosphere that appears to be increasing further within Palestinian East Jerusalem villages, like Shufat, as well as in the occupied West Bank.

Israeli army in​ Shufat block road and shoot of tear gas. (Photo: Matthew Vickery)

Israeli army in​ Shufat block road and shoot of tear gas. (Photo: Matthew Vickery)

Injured young man carried away by medics at clashes in Shufat after funeral. (Photo: Matthew Vickery)

Injured young man carried away by medics at clashes in Shufat after funeral. (Photo: Matthew Vickery)

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Sheren Khalel is a freelance multimedia journalist who works out of Israel, Palestine and Jordan. You can follow her on Twitter at @Sherenk. Matthew Vickery is an independent multimedia journalist based in the Middle East with a focus on the Levant and Iraq. Follow Matthew on Twitter: @MMVickery

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  1. CloakAndDagger
    CloakAndDagger on July 4, 2014, 7:48 pm

    Israel’s days are numbered. Even for the aging zionists in the US as they die off, the younger generation will not support Israel.

    If you wait by the river long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float by
    –– Sun Tzu

    • Pat Nguyen
      Pat Nguyen on July 4, 2014, 11:46 pm

      You wish! Not going to happen

      • Djinn
        Djinn on July 5, 2014, 12:47 am

        Yes because powerful nations never fall. I was just saying the same to my neighbour who’s a soldier with the Roman army.

      • Shingo
        Shingo on July 5, 2014, 1:27 am

        Yes especially for Israel. But never mind Pat, it’s not as though you we’re we going to live there – not as a 3rd class got.

      • amigo
        amigo on July 5, 2014, 6:27 am

        Nguyen,You should be worried about what your illegal settler slime are doing in the name of Judaism.I doubt that the Palestinians could come anywhere close to this level of naked brutality.As a Jew , you must be very proud of your brethern.

        “Saber Al-Aloul, the director of the Palestinian forensic institute, attended the autopsy which was carried out by Israeli doctors in Tel Aviv.

        Al-A’wewy said Al-Aloul had reported fire dust material was found in Khudair’s respiratory canal which meant “the boy had inhaled this material while he was burnt alive.” reuters

        http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/07/05/palestinians-israel-idINKBN0FA05E20140705

      • on July 5, 2014, 8:45 am

        Already happening.

        Many Israelis are bailing out.

      • talknic
        talknic on July 5, 2014, 9:40 pm

        Pat Nguyen “You wish! Not going to happen

        Your souls floated by in the ziosewer long ago pal

      • eljay
        eljay on July 5, 2014, 10:00 pm

        >> C&D: Israel’s days are numbered.
        >> P.N.: You wish! Not going to happen

        Another supremacist has delusions of a thousand-year empire.

  2. just
    just on July 4, 2014, 7:52 pm

    Thank you both for bringing this to us– your work to record the truth is so appreciated.

  3. JohnAdamTurnbull
    JohnAdamTurnbull on July 4, 2014, 8:01 pm

    And now it appears that his cousin Taqir Khdeir, who was badly beaten, is an American citizen from Tampa, Florida.

    CAIR’s Facebook page:

    https://www.facebook.com/CAIRNational?fref=nf

  4. a blah chick
    a blah chick on July 4, 2014, 8:11 pm

    I heard there’s a gag order in effect.

    Here we go again.

  5. a blah chick
    a blah chick on July 4, 2014, 8:48 pm

    I can’t remember where I read it but it seems that former or current police were responsible for the story that the kid was gay. Also that they forged documents to make their allegations look real.

    • DaBakr
      DaBakr on July 5, 2014, 3:16 pm

      @abc
      you read it at r.silverstein producer of many ‘dubious’ sources from many ‘dubious’ anonymous sources.

    • AbigailOK
      AbigailOK on July 6, 2014, 5:52 pm

      @ blah chick That’s all some ziobots can think of: violence and sex. And of course trying to degrade someone (motsi shem ra or creating a bad name by lying which is an enormous crime in Jewish law. Akin to spilling someone’s blood. But then again: these are pagans posing as Jews who love spilling blood) as a result of their own prejudices. Not even worth mentioning maybe because after all, all that it shows is the mindset of lowlifes.

      BTW: the state of israel as robber baron, and a murdering, racist bunch addicted to violence, sadism and power cannot sink any lower. I agree with CloakAndDagger but it may be my wishful thinking out of disgust and anger. Hopefully the monster will come down without dragging the Palestinians and Bedouins with them.

      Am finally reading Goliath, etc. by Blumenthal. Had it lying here already for over half a year. Whatever one did not know yet, is there. This state of israel has no right to exist IMHO in the current form. It is a parasitic destructive energy. Lots of Israelis are or already have emigrated. To…..Germany…….

      I fear for the Palestinians living in this created hell by us Jews who for the most refuse to speak up. If we all would esp. the American and European ones, this would be public opinion sweltering into enormous political pressure on the USA (and the EU).

  6. palijustice
    palijustice on July 4, 2014, 9:34 pm

    Without Mondowesiss most of us would be unaware of the reality of what’s going on in Israel/Palestine. We need to support this site and tell other people to read it, so that they know the reality as well.

    • Citizen
      Citizen on July 4, 2014, 9:48 pm

      I tell people constantly, including my own relatives. They show little interest; of course my relatives also don’t believe anything our own government tells them. Nor do they believe the mainstream news media.

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr on July 5, 2014, 3:35 pm

        …your relatives aren’t interested in MW and also don’t believe the msm or that the gov’t of the US tells the truth? is that a compliment or an insult?

  7. Kay24
    Kay24 on July 4, 2014, 10:58 pm

    One could almost feel the anger and frustration these poor Palestinian people must feel. They are such a resilient people, who are able to miraculously bounce back from the terror and abuse inflicted on them, by the demons of zionism. This is an evil bunch, and should never have been dumped in the Palestinian territories, just because no one else wanted them. They were homeless europeans, who turned into the most vicious parasites, who feed off the indigenous people.

    Bibi Netanyahu behaves like an out of control tyrant. He was a bully, but he has become the barbaric leader, who wants blood spilled, and urges his people, to seek revenge. This is not a democracy, it is a military rogue state out of control.

    Israel is going to feel the repercussions of it’s brutality, and it has been asking for trouble for a long time, and it seem zionists are unable to realize, they cannot keep inflicting pain and suffering, and not get bitten back.

    Whom the Gods wish to destroy, they first drive mad – Greek saying

    • seafoid
      seafoid on July 5, 2014, 3:16 am

      Clueless American Jews who think Israel is all nice and fluffy and Jews would never do that

      http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/routine-emergencies/.premium-1.603116
      “Veteran Jewish leader Barry Shrage, who has served as president of the Combined Jewish Philanthropies – CJP – the Boston Jewish Federation since 1987, referred to the killing of Muhammed Abu-Khdeir. “We have no idea of what happened. But one thing is very very clear. If god forbid, this was the act of a Jewish person, that person’s name will be remembered as a curse, not as a blessing. That person’s name will be among those who desecrated the Torah and everything that the Jewish people stand for. No one will hand out candies, and take joy in the death of that child, celebrate their child’s murderous actions. Instead, we will mourn together with that family.”

      Zionism is revenge and reprisals . The Torah is desecrated 24/7

      http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.600407
      “But the response should be carefully considered: This is a serious terror attack that requires a harsh response”

      http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.600449
      “A great majority of the time, for most of the Jews here, the Palestinian suffering is completely denied. When it is not documented on video it interests almost no one, and when it is documented it is repressed as a conspiracy. ”

      Colonialism is real dirty.

      • Woody Tanaka
        Woody Tanaka on July 5, 2014, 6:45 am

        ” that person’s name will be remembered as a curse, not as a blessing.”

        LMAO. Yeah, when the Jews destroy the gravestone/shrine to Baruch Goldstein, and Meir Kahane is remembered as a curse, then this baloney will be believable.

      • Kay24
        Kay24 on July 5, 2014, 7:24 am

        That cursed person, if ever found, will be given the royal treatment of zionists – first arrested to show the world Israel is attempting to do something, then a pat on his miserable head, and out in a few months.
        Then the parties honoring him will start. We know the Israeli system by now.

    • jon s
      jon s on July 5, 2014, 4:45 pm

      Kay24, I once gave you the benefit of the doubt and I said that I suppose you’re not an Anti-Semite, in you’re own mind.
      Now, after these formulations (” This is an evil bunch, and should never have been dumped in the Palestinian territories, just because no one else wanted them. They were homeless europeans, who turned into the most vicious parasites, who feed off the indigenous people.”) and after you’ve posted a link to a Nazi- sympathizer website, the doubt is gone.

  8. Justpassingby
    Justpassingby on July 5, 2014, 1:37 am

    Video of the assault
    https://www.facebook.com/CAIRNational/posts/10152254705212695

    Shame on you obama for being silent!

    • crone
      crone on July 5, 2014, 2:59 am

      the statement at the link for the video…

      says that the murdered teen’s family is in Sacramento…

      • annie
        annie on July 5, 2014, 3:06 am

        yes they had a memorial here thursday night.

      • Kay24
        Kay24 on July 5, 2014, 7:39 am

        Chances of our government and leaders doing something to help this family, are slim to none. The Palestinians have no powerful lobby to make threatening calls and whip their paid servants here to make statements or pass resolutions. There is no one to take this good cause and bring justice for one of our citizens. Most probably the politicians who represents the district this poor kid lives in, is already a devoted lover of Israel.
        Here is another example of the US government being indifferent to the crimes by Israel towards it’s own citizens (also keeping in mind Rachel Corrie and the Turkish American kid killed by Israeli commandos on the Mavi Maara.
        http://electronicintifada.net/content/call-us-investigation-lethal-israeli-assault-against-palestinian-american-family/5499

  9. seafoid
    seafoid on July 5, 2014, 2:19 am

    I wonder if Netanyahu will be indicted for incitement .Presumably the Israeli police are on the case.

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.600762
    “Police recommended Monday investigating MK Haneen Zoabi (Balad) for incitement over her statement that the kidnapping of three Israeli teens from a West Bank hitchhiking post isn’t terrorism.
    The final decision on whether to open a probe will be made by the Attorney General’s Office. Police said they have given the office all the relevant material, along with their recommendation to indict, which was first reported by Yedioth Ahronoth. “

  10. seafoid
    seafoid on July 5, 2014, 2:48 am

    http://www.haaretz.com/.premium-1.599936#

    “The prime minister said that this was simply a bloodthirsty enemy that does not balk at killing children, women and old people. Our prime minister did not say who exactly that enemy is, but I understood what he meant when I heard him on the radio.
    My children were in the car, too, and they heard the prime minister and were scared, and my little boy asked, “Daddy, who are ‘they’?” Turning my head to the back seat for a second, I almost said, “Us, you, he’s talking about you, too.” But I didn’t tell the kids the truth – I said nothing. “

  11. Shmuel
    Shmuel on July 5, 2014, 3:46 am

    And now protests have spread from Jerusalem to the Triangle (predominantly Palestinian area in northern Israel). Echoes of the Second Intifada.

    • jon s
      jon s on July 5, 2014, 4:31 pm

      And here in Beersheva, in the middle of the first half of Argentina vs. Belgium, the siren sounded and we rushed to our “security room”. After a few moments we heard a faint thud. The report is that Iron Dome intercepted the terrorist rockets aimed at the town.
      So not only was there no ceasefire, the terrorists actually widened the range of civilian targets, not that aiming at Sderot is “acceptable”.
      I doubt that the goverment will be able to continue with the present restraint much longer.

      • just
        just on July 5, 2014, 4:41 pm

        WHAT “restraint”???

        (or were you looking for empathy that your football game was interrupted? You’re lucky that you have a “security room”– Palestinians have no such thing!)

        Have you thanked the average US taxpayer for your Iron Dome?

      • jon s
        jon s on July 5, 2014, 5:32 pm

        Scores of rockets have been launched at our civilian population, from Gaza.So far the reaction has been remarkably restrained.

      • eljay
        eljay on July 5, 2014, 6:44 pm

        >> jon s: And here in Beersheva … the siren sounded and we rushed to our “security room”. After a few moments we heard a faint thud. The report is that Iron Dome intercepted the terrorist rockets aimed at the town.

        You will no doubt agree that the citizens of Beersheva (which lies outside of Israel’s / Partition borders) are – as the state of Israel argued in the case of Rachel Corrie – “in a danger zone and so [they] alone [are] negligible for [their] own killing”.

        >> jon s: Scores of rockets have been launched at our civilian population, from Gaza.So far the reaction has been remarkably restrained.

        Zio-supremacists and the supremacist “Jewish State” of Israel have been oppressing (and killing) the people of Gaza for decades. So far, the reaction has been remarkably restrained.

      • Shingo
        Shingo on July 5, 2014, 6:45 pm

        Scores of rockets have been launched at our civilian population, from Gaza.

        Would you prefer scores of 500 and 1000lb laser guided bombs?

      • oldgeezer
        oldgeezer on July 5, 2014, 11:12 pm

        jon s I get it. You are up against animalistic terrorists. No one here understands, as we do, the impact on peace loving people when one spills the popcorn in a moment of hurry. I get it.

        You are a zionist true and proud. You are a moral beacon. Go beat up with a Palestinian child and regain your pride. Vaporize a household in the name of honour.

      • a blah chick
        a blah chick on July 5, 2014, 5:46 pm

        Restraint? Have you not been watching tv for the past week?

        Because of your leader’s incitement a child was burned to death. Abbas has shown more statesmanship than your entire government put together.

      • a blah chick
        a blah chick on July 5, 2014, 5:56 pm

        BTW where’s your camera hog of a PM? He was all over the media during the hitchhiker crisis, now he seems to have nothing to say. Funny that.

      • Shingo
        Shingo on July 5, 2014, 6:42 pm

        And here in Beersheva, in the middle of the first half of Argentina vs. Belgium, the siren sounded and we rushed to our “security room”.

        You hear that Shmuel, the poor souls had to move from watching the game in the living room to watching it in their bunkers.

        What a nuisance!!!

        At least it was the half time break so they didn’t miss any action.

      • jon s
        jon s on July 6, 2014, 4:02 pm

        Shingo, you’re not paying attention, it was during the first half, not at half-time.

      • Bumblebye
        Bumblebye on July 5, 2014, 8:03 pm

        @jon s
        BFD. Your own country is 100% responsible as it is the SOLE cause for creating the situation.
        Meanwhile, here we’ve had the ‘Tour de France’ in town – they finished here. The son of a local woman fell off his bike yards (oops no – we’re French today, that should be metres!) from the finish, but all I could see on a screen from near the back of the crowd was mere snatches because of all the heads and bodies in front. Our local bird of prey put in an appearance right then too – a gorgeous red kite who circled the cenotaph several times then when the race finished, flapped off back to the nearby woods (very close to town). Oh, and I found out that even police bicycles have their own sirens.

      • talknic
        talknic on July 5, 2014, 10:27 pm

        jon s “So not only was there no ceasefire, the terrorists actually widened the range of civilian targets “

        No military in Beersheva? AMAZING!! Who operates Iron Dome?

      • Shmuel
        Shmuel on July 6, 2014, 6:36 am

        I doubt that the goverment will be able to continue with the present restraint much longer.

        Had Netanyahu exercised restraint earlier, it is unlikely a grad would have been fired at Beersheva in the first place.

        No Iron Dome in Gaza.

      • jon s
        jon s on July 6, 2014, 4:21 pm

        It seems to me that Netanyahu is usually big on bluster and rhetoric, but is not adventurous , not apt to rush into use of massive military force (unlike Olmert, for one). Like a schoolyard bully, constantly threatening to beat the shit out of everyone, but wary of actually throwing a punch.

  12. Citizen
    Citizen on July 5, 2014, 4:39 am

    Looks like Abbas is under a lot of pressure, maybe the most he’s ever been under: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4537874,00.html

    • Shingo
      Shingo on July 5, 2014, 5:18 am

      Looks like Abbas is under a lot of pressure, maybe the most he’s ever been under:

      Oh shucks, Abbas might need to find a new boss and stop being Israel’s agent.

  13. a blah chick
    a blah chick on July 5, 2014, 8:50 am

    “The autopsy, which was carried out by Israeli doctors in Tel Aviv, finds that Muhammad Abu Khdeir’s burns covered 90 percent of his body, and that he inhaled fire dust material; Israeli-Palestinian tensions high.”

    That’ the Jpost. I was intested to how they handled the autopsy findings and they were the souls of tack. The boy was “forced into a car” and the inhaled “fire dust materials” rather than he was kidnapped and burned alive. Also there was plenty of discussion about the demonstrations and pictures of the murdered hitch hikers and how an Israeli man on the West Bank was forced from his car and the vehicle torched. Oh and Mr Sara saying that the death was “loathsome.”

    All in all a column to take as much focus away from the real victim.

  14. kalithea
    kalithea on July 5, 2014, 10:27 am

    I heard on CNN that it’s being reported the victim was forced to drink petrol and then set on fire. Imagine how this boy suffered!

    Yes on one side we witness desperation against an inhumane, endless occupation that sometimes fuels violence, but then there’s the pure evil that drives this oppressive occupation and barbaric acts like this by Kahane’s and Goldstein’s disciples.

    When will Jews have enough of this depraved legacy being created on their behalf and reject it with unwavering conviction in every way?

  15. Justpassingby
    Justpassingby on July 5, 2014, 10:53 am

    I cant even read about this subject its making me sick.

  16. anthonybellchambers
    anthonybellchambers on July 5, 2014, 1:52 pm

    There is but one imperative, and one only! That is to stop Netanyahu from his sickening strategy of using these horrific murders as an excuse to extend his illegal settlements in the Occupied Territories.

    The UN General Assembly in emergency session should CONDEMN this action of the Israeli government and DEMAND A COMPLETE WITHDRAWAL of all illegal settlers in the West Bank failing which there should be a complete embargo on bilateral trade with Israel, worldwide. No one should be allowed to benefit from these atrocities.

    • Justpassingby
      Justpassingby on July 5, 2014, 3:04 pm

      +1

      But the puppet Abbas wont do that.

      • Shingo
        Shingo on July 5, 2014, 6:49 pm

        But the puppet Abbas wont do that.

        He is an Israeli agent and a traitor to his people.

        Time for him to be treated as one.

      • peeesss
        peeesss on July 6, 2014, 4:47 am

        The silence of Abbas is deafening. And I doubt that Obama will give his “as a father of two children” spiel condemning violence against Israeli Jewish children to the Palestinian family of the child burned alive and his cousin , a US citizen, brutalized by Israeli Jewish deranged settlers and soldiers.
        Of course Israeli officials will “investigate ” and bring to justice the perpetrators of these heinous crimes by threatening the families of the children, by confiscating security cameras , and by their well known regard for justice to Palestinians.

      • talknic
        talknic on July 5, 2014, 11:53 pm

        @ Justpassingby @ Shingo

        What the UN GA does is not up to Abbas. You’re doing what the ghastly zionistas would have, arguing amongst yourselves on a nonsense point.

      • Shingo
        Shingo on July 6, 2014, 1:34 am

        What the UN GA does is not up to Abbas.

        It is up to Abbas whether the PA continues up act as Israel’s security force and fail to take Israel to the ICC.

        It is up to Abbas that he crushes resistance up occupation, collaborated with the IDF and crushes opponents.
        As Erakat said, he’s acting like a Pharaoh and treating the OT as his own personal property.

      • talknic
        talknic on July 6, 2014, 8:54 am

        Shingo

        To be fair to Abbas, he’s very slowly and purposefully giving Israel and it’s leaders the rope with which they’ll eventually hang themselves. By joining numerous UN bodies, ratifying treaties and conventions available to them, he has in fact advanced the Palestinian position by leaps and bounds in comparison to the complete lack of advancement in the last 66 years

        Taking an issue to the ICC must be exquisitely exacting and timed and have amongst other things, a just panel of judges. Get it wrong and you’re ten / twenty years behind .. again.

        In respect to the PA agreement with Israel. It’s a separate issue. The PA is not the State of Palestine. The PA was set up to and exists only while Israel is the Occupying Power. By keeping the PA end of the bargain, Israel inches the rope around its big fat illegal facts on the ground neck every time it doesn’t adhere to the bargain.

        Softly softly …

      • Shingo
        Shingo on July 6, 2014, 9:49 am

        To be fair to Abbas, he’s very slowly and purposefully giving Israel and it’s leaders the rope with which they’ll eventually hang themselves.

        I respect your take on this Talknic and admire your optimism, but the UN and the associated bodies are nine tenths of squat. They will only ever pose a minor annoyance to Israel and the US.

        As for Abbas, you’re take in him reminds me if those who keep insisting Obama is some political fe it playing 3 dimensional chess with Bibbi, when the reality is that he’s exactly what he appears to be – a gutless, self serving, weasel – and so is Abbas.

      • Justpassingby
        Justpassingby on July 6, 2014, 3:48 am

        talknic

        As Shingo said, its up to to Abbas to take the issue to legal means.

  17. a blah chick
    a blah chick on July 5, 2014, 4:27 pm

    I know that some of you are wondering what the police there are doing and they have not been idle! In fact they have arrested over a dozen people who have been pulling Jewish people from their cars and setting them on fire. The cars, not the people.

  18. james3
    james3 on July 5, 2014, 9:32 pm

    A swarthy skinny Floridian beat to within an inch of his life, by cops, on tape. Kicks and punches galore, with the suspect on his back, offering zero resistance.

    A perfect storm of Democratic outrage or an All American exit from Palestinian reality?

    • Justpassingby
      Justpassingby on July 6, 2014, 8:20 am

      Its time for palestinians, well arabs, muslims to unite and send a protest against this heinous racism commited by Israel and accepted by obama & co.

  19. RobertB
    RobertB on July 6, 2014, 6:24 am

    If Americans Knew
    June 23, 2014
    Updated: June 25, 2014

    Israel’s brutal response to the
    disappearance of 3 Jewish teens

    “On June 12, 2014, it was announced that three Jewish teens who had been hitchhiking in the West Bank were missing. The government of Israel immediately accused Hamas of abducting them. What actually happened to the teens is unknown; Hamas has denied involvement in their disappearance, and no demands or credible claims of responsibility have been made by any party. The Israeli government has yet to offer any concrete evidence that Hamas is linked, yet its response against Hamas as well as ordinary Palestinians has been extremely violent and repressive.

    Human rights organizations in Israel-Palestine (Amnesty International, B’Tselem, Gisha, the Association for Civil Rights in Israel, the Public Committee Against Torture in Israel, HaMoked: Center for the Defence of the Individual, Yesh Din, Adalah, Physicians for Human Rights – Israel, Rabbis for Human Rights, and Breaking the Silence) signed a letter urging that Israel stop imposing “collective punishment” on the Palestinian people.

    Since June 12, 2014 Israel has:

    – Kidnapped 540 Palestinians in over 1,350 home invasions and assaults

    – Killed 7 Palestinians, including a 7-year old, a 15-year-old, and a mentally ill man

    – Shut down 15 social welfare organizations that provide services to Palestinians

    – Placed the entire city of Hebron under siege (680,000 residents are blocked from leaving the city)

    – Injured hundreds of Palestinians including journalists and children by attacking them with teargas, rubber bullets and concussion grenades

    – Carried out nightly airstrikes in several locations in the Gaza Strip

    – Raided a media building in the West Bank, destroying equipment and video archives

    – Re-arrested Samer Issawi, who was previously on hunger strike in Israeli jails for a total of 9 months

    If Hamas is behind the disappearance of the 3 teens, that would indeed constitute a violation of their basic human rights. However, to put the situation in context, there are at currently least 5,271 Palestinian political prisoners in Israeli jails, 196 of them under the age of 18. These prisoners are not afforded a number of fundamental legal rights.”

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    Click on link below for the rest of the details:

    http://www.ifamericansknew.org/cur_sit/kidnap-response.html

  20. gingershot
    gingershot on July 6, 2014, 8:19 am

    The American media has been in FULL OPEN COMPLICIT SUPPORT of Apartheid Israel – of the set up of Apartheid of Israel, of the BLINDING to the American public of it by heavily and exhaustively organized AIPAC policy

    That era is over – AIPAC is in STRATEGIC COLLAPSE, Apartheid Israel is in STRATEGIC COLLAPSE – AIPAC’s enforcers are GONE and we are in their backfield

    They are IN ROUT – in shock and awe and dumbstruck – they are like a Cave Troll crashing into their own at this point. CHARGE!

    No more wars for the WAPO Editorial Board and the REST of the Israel Lobby

    No more wars for Andrea Mitchell and the REST of the Israel Lobby

    No more wars for the NYTimes and the REST of the Israel Lobby

    No more wars for Dick Cheney and the REST of the Israel Lobby

    No more wars for Wolf Blitzer and the REST of the Israel Lobby

    No more wars for Hillary ‘a Neocon’s Neocon’/JoeScarborough’ Clinton

    No more wars for Bill Kristol and the REST of the Israeli Lobby

    No more wars for Sen McCain and the REST of the Israeli Lobby

    No more wars for Bret Stephens, Jennifer Rubin, Krautyammer, and the REST of the Israeli Lobby

    Read Peter Beinart’s breaking ‘Burn Notice #2 to the Diaspora’: U.S. Jews must save their people’s honor, which Israel is putting at stake’.

    Apartheid Israel is taking AIPAC/The Israel Lobby and RACHEL MADDOW down with it….

    Faster please…

    America Free of the Israeli Lobby – it’s the 2nd American Revolution

  21. gingershot
    gingershot on July 6, 2014, 9:17 am

    The American people DEMAND FULL RIGHT OF RETURN for ALL Palestinians that the Apartheid Israeli state is currently keeping in Refuge Camps in Lebanon, Jordan, and Syria, Gaza and the Bantustans of the West Bank

    Apartheid Israel must now be FORCED by UN Sec Council Action to ‘abide’ by UN Res 194 – and this means IMMEDIATE CREATION of the ‘One State Solution’ 1 P 1 V 1 S (one person one vote one state) and Jerusalem declared an OPEN CITY free of Apartheid Israeli ‘annexation’, Apartheid, and other crimes against humanity

    WE ARE OVER THEIR WALLS – now let’s take out their Apartheid Israel-Support System in the US – the US Israeli Lobby

    America Free of the Israeli Lobby – it’s the 2nd American Revolution

  22. Citizen
    Citizen on July 6, 2014, 9:50 am

    I will hold my breath, waiting for mass America to ask for justice for a Tampa Bay High School student. Meanwhile, the Israeli IT knows what’s coming, and why: http://blogs.forward.com/jj-goldberg/201468/ex-shin-bet-chief-israeli-illusions-fueled-blowup/?

    Interesting that Obama apparently has no clue about what the former Shin Bet chief has figured out. Is Obama the biggest dunce ever to occupy the WH? Can he ever escape the confines of Penny Pritzker’s wealthy pu***? Does he even a little bit resemble Shaka Zulu?

  23. Citizen
    Citizen on July 6, 2014, 10:14 am

    MSNBC on Sunday, 10AM EST, talking about the death teens on both sides. Melissa Harris-Perry hosting. She just said Israel thinks the murder of the Palestinians was “nationalistically motivated.”

    Panel discussion.
    Is the possibility of peace in ME a pipe dream?
    Brings up Kissinger. (Why him? He’s the originator of nobody being an eternal friend?)
    Two state solution may have been dead years ago. Equal rights. (Jewish speaker)
    Bibi says US & Israel have shared values.
    Another (black) panelist says US uses Israel to project shared values.
    Another (yellow) says US and Israel have share values.
    break for ads

  24. Citizen
    Citizen on July 6, 2014, 10:24 am

    Death of 3 Jewish teens, death of a Palestinan, beating of his relative.
    Col Jack Jacobs: Won’t change US stance on anything. 2 or 3 state solution?
    No broker but USA?
    Obama said sovereignty was important test, as to US policy. What about non-Jewish interests? Well, at least MSNBC is giving you some optional POVs. Amazing how black American spokes folks seem to support Israel. Anything to do with US campaign finance system? Just asking?

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