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The great Mads Gilbert is back in Norway. Here’s a portion of his speech, translated and sent along to us.The video includes his thank you to his hospital, University Hospital of North Norway, and the lines in my headline. 

I know you applaud for Gaza. I know you applaud for those who are there, the heroes of Gaza.

This will be no easy appeal to make, because I am now overcome by the mildness, the warmth, the safety, the absence of bombs, jets, blood and death. And then all that we’ve had to keep inside comes to the surface – so forgive me if sometimes I break.

I thought when I got home and met my daughters Siri and Torbjørn, my son-in-law and my grandkids Jenny and Torje, that it is such a mild country we live in.

It so good, with a kind of humanity in all relationships, because we actually built this country on respect for diversity, respect for the individual, respect for human dignity.

And imagine being back in 1945. And I beg to be understood when I say that I am not comparing the German Nazi regime with Israel. I do not.

But I compare occupation with occupation. Imagine that we in 1945 did not win the liberation struggle, did not throw out the occupier, could not see a bright future or believe our kids had a future. Imagine the occupier remaining in our country, taking it piece by piece, for decades upon decades. And banished us to the leanest areas. Took the fish in the sea, took the land, took the water, and we became more and more confined.

And here in Tromsø we were actually imprisoned, because here there was so much resistance to the occupation. So we are imprisoned for seven years, because in an election we had chosen the most resilient, those who would not accept the occupation.

Then after seven years of confinement in our city, Tromsø, the occupier began to bomb us. And they began to bomb us the day we made a political alliance with those in the other confined parts of occupied Norway, to say that we Norwegians would stand together against the occupier. Then they began to bomb us.

They bombed our university hospital, then the medical center, then killed our ambulance workers, they bombed schools where those who had lost their homes were trying to seek shelter. Then they cut the power and bombed our power plant. Then they shut off the water supply. What would we have done?

Would we have given up, waved the white flag? No. No, we would not. And this is the situation in Gaza.

This is not a battle between terrorism and democracy. Hamas is not the enemy Israel is fighting. Israel is waging a war against the Palestinian people’s will to resist. The unbending determination not to submit to the occupation!

It is the Palestinian people’s dignity and humanity that will not accept that they are treated as third, fourth, fifth-ranking people.

In 1938, the Nazis called the Jews “Untermenschen,” subhuman. Today, Palestinians in the West Bank, in Gaza, in the Diaspora are treated as Untermensch, as subhumans who can be bombed, killed, slaughtered by their thousands, without any of those in power reacting.

So I returned home to my free country – and this country is free because we had a resistance movement, because we said that occupied nations have the right to resist, even with weapons. It’s stated in international law.

You are permitted to fight the occupier even with weapons.

Nobody wants to be occupied!

Philip Weiss

Philip Weiss is senior editor of Mondoweiss.net and founded the site in 2005-06.

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  1. michelle on August 8, 2014, 10:54 am

    .
    well spoken and a selfless heart
    .
    i think most people use ww2 as the example
    because it has been held up (as an example)
    to public view more than any other injustice
    thus making it a well known ref. to most
    .
    G-d Bless
    .

  2. ezra greenberg on August 8, 2014, 11:04 am

    Let us consider this so called Occupation. What was its genesis. Was there always an Occupation? These are things that one has to consider in able to form a legitimate understanding of the situation. Before 1967, and indeed between 1948 and 1967, there was no Occupation of Gaza and the West Bank. Only after Israel seized these territories in the defensive war of 1967 were they Occupied. (As an aside, is it not interesting to note that there was no effort to establish a Palestinian State between 1948 and 1967? Just saying…..).
    Israel has been trying to find a just dispensation of these territories ever since, which would somehow reconcile Israeli security needs with legitimate Palestinian aspirations. This has been difficult to do for a variety of reasons, not enough space here to mention. And indeed one can cogently argue that the West Bank and Gaza are only partially Occupied at present, both being led by their own elected representatives (the so called “moderate” PLO which heads the West Bank, and the genocidally psychopathis HAMAS heading Gaza). So to reduce this complicated issue down to the big bad evil Occupation of the Israelis is stupid and insipid. But why deal with nuance when one can just deal with sound bites and catch phrases?

    • on August 8, 2014, 1:23 pm

      The representation of the 1967 War as a defensive one on the part of Israel is a perfect example of the Big Lie that the Zionists employ (another example — calling its military the most moral in the planet’s history while they massacre defenseless people in Gaza).

      Israel struck first, fought the entire war outside of its borders, whipped its opponents completely in less than a damn week, and began to move its people into the conquered lands less than a month after the first salvos — and has continued to move more Jews onto the land for the past 67 years.

      Clearly and beyond any doubt at all this was a war to capture land for Israel. An act that is illegal under international law — a law written in response to the actions of Nazi Germany in the 1930s.

      It simple amazes me that anyone can look at the facts and still buy into the defensive war Lie.

      • piotr on August 8, 2014, 2:41 pm

        Wikipedia: The Moroccan Quarter[1] or Mughrabi Quarter[2] (Arabic حارَة المَغارِبة Hārat al-Maghāriba, Hebrew: שכונת המוגרבים, Sh’khunat HaMughrabim) was an 770-year old neighborhood in the southeast corner of the Old City of Jerusalem, bordering on the western wall of the Temple Mount on the east, the Old City walls on the south (including the Dung Gate) and the Jewish Quarter to the west. It was an extension of the Muslim Quarter to the north, and was founded by a son of Saladin in the late 12th century.[3]
        The quarter was razed three days after the Six-Day War in order to broaden the narrow alley leading to the Western Wall and prepare it for public access by Jews seeking to pray there.[4]

        Indeed, the theft of the land started in less then a month.

      • ezra greenberg on August 8, 2014, 4:15 pm

        No BIG LIE. A little knowledge by so called “progressives” can be dangerous. Yes, it is in fact true that Israel struck first militarily with a pre emptive attack, which was 100% justifiable. Why was it justifiable you may ask? (drumbeat please). Because Egypt in the preceding days had closed the Straits of Tiran, blocking Israeli shipping (a causa belli for war), had told U Thant of the UN to get the peacekeepers out of Sinai, and Nasser had signed a military pact with Jordan. The explicit rationale for this military pact was the extermination of Israel. The Arabs did not even hide their intentions of an upcoming genocide.
        So yes, under those circumstances, Israeli did wipe out the Egyptian and other Arab air forces. Something I view as 100% justifiable. If someone draws a gun on you, you don’t have to wait until the bullet is in the air, you can shoot first! Please don’t argue with me until you get a little more facts under your belt. But nice try though!!!

      • Mooser on August 8, 2014, 11:47 pm

        Gosh, war! Love it! Can’t thank you Zionists enough for getting the ol’ Jewish religion mixed up in it! How many other religions can say: “We’ve got an army conquering lands for our religion! Just like in the Bible Days!”
        Yes sir, the deeds of the Zionists will redound through the ages, to the credit and honor of the Jews. Oh, how the world will tremble when we add “Destroyer of the Palestinians” to our battle-flags. Oh the admiring glances on the faces of Gentiles “Are you one of those heroes, a Jew?” they will ask “One of those who rid the world of the Palestinian scourge, and saved it for civilization?” “Aw, shucks”, we will modestly answer “Tweren’t nothin.”

      • ezra greenberg on August 9, 2014, 8:30 am

        nothing like a little snarky sarcasm to add light to the discussion. Yes, those pesky Jews sure like to emphasize their religion (unlike the aggressively secular Muslims, the new kid on the Islamo-fascist block being ISIS, who would never dream of mixing religion with politics!!!).
        As I have said before (not there though!!) the Palestinians never had it so good, at least living in Israel. Sure the Palestinian/Israelis love to carp and moan about the evil Zionist entity, but do you see any of them leaving? Any running for the exits to the Palestinian Territories, where they would not have to live under the Zionist scourge? Nope. The biggest fear the Arabs in Israel have is that in any dispensation of territory, they will be made for of a Palestinian State.
        Even the Arabs in the big bad Occupied territories realize they never had it so good. They look around, see what is happening in Syria, see the tyranny in Egypt, see the hijacked State of Lebanon, and they probably say to themselves sotto voce “I’ll take my chance living under Israeli military rule any day!!” I don’t blame them at all, but the hypocrisy is breath-taking.

      • just on August 9, 2014, 8:53 am

        Sick.

      • talknic on August 9, 2014, 9:59 am

        @ ezra greenberg “Sure the Palestinian/Israelis love to carp and moan about the evil Zionist entity, but do you see any of them leaving? Any running for the exits to the Palestinian Territories,”

        Maybe they simply want to live in their homeland, i.e, that part of Palestine proclaimed and renamed Israel. I doubt very much they want to move just to satisfy your stupidity.

        “The biggest fear the Arabs in Israel have is that in any dispensation of territory, they will be made for of a Palestinian State”

        Uh? They’re Israelis living in Israel. No Israeli territory has been on offer or for that matter demanded.

        “Even the Arabs in the big bad Occupied territories realize they never had it so good.”

        Ah yes living under occupation is such fun! Ever thought of seeing a shrink?

        ” they probably say to themselves sotto voce “I’ll take my chance living under Israeli military rule any day!!” I don’t blame them at all, but the hypocrisy is breath-taking”

        The unsubstantiated speculation on which you attempt to judge hypocrisy is breathtaking pal.

      • Mooser on August 9, 2014, 2:36 pm

        “Sick” – Just

        Aww, c’mon “just”, what good is all that Jewish religion, and all that Jewish suffering, if it can’t be used for something? It’s like having all kinds of assets and not investing.

      • talknic on August 9, 2014, 10:06 am

        @ ezra greenberg “Yes, it is in fact true that Israel struck first militarily with a pre emptive attack, which was 100% justifiable”

        In 1966 …. http://unispal.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0/1A03C7BFB8D6C049852560C3004A4AAF

        ” Why was it justifiable you may ask? (drumbeat please). Because Egypt in the preceding days had closed the Straits of Tiran, blocking Israeli shipping (a causa belli for war)”

        That was in 1967. BTW a blockade must be enforced to be a blockade. It was never challenged, therefore never enforced. A potential act of war that was never enacted ain’t an act of anything pal.

        “The explicit rationale for this military pact was the extermination of Israel. “

        Sources please…

        “If someone draws a gun on you, you don’t have to wait until the bullet is in the air, you can shoot first! “

        Israel started shooting 1966 ….

      • seanmcbride on August 9, 2014, 11:40 am

        ezra greenberg,

        Would you characterize yourself as a secular Zionist or religious Zionist? Do you draw strict distinctions between Judaism and Zionism?

      • Mooser on August 9, 2014, 2:29 pm

        Thanks. My response, again, would be neither coherent or printable. I never you could get a state simply by consistently insulting the world’s intelligence. And all by ourselves, with the whole world again’ us.

      • ezra greenberg on August 10, 2014, 12:04 am

        Israel struck first militarily, that is true. But you have a cross bow pointed at me, I don’t have to wait until the arrow is in the air before I can take you out. That was the situation Israel was in. Egypt had already closed the Straits of Tiran, kicked peacekeepers out of Sinai, and signed military pacts with adjoining Arab States, all in conjunction with explicit threats to drive the Jews into the sea. Under these circumstances Israel quite justifiably took out the pitiful Arab air forces before they even got a chance to get off the ground. Sometimes people deserve a good butt kicking. This was one of those times.

    • Citizen on August 8, 2014, 1:30 pm

      @ ezra greenberg

      “Only after Israel seized these territories in the defensive war of 1967 were they Occupied.”

      Former Irgun honcho Begin admitted in 1982: “In June 1967 we had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches did not prove that (president of Egypt) Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him“.

      “We were not threatened with genocide on eve of Six Day War, and we had never thought of such a possibility,” Gen. Haim Barlev (d. 1994), former Israeli chief of staff, admitted in 1972. Barlev was member of Jewish terrorist militia Palmach, which was lead by Israeli prime minister Gen. Yitzhak Rabin.

    • tear-stained uzi on August 8, 2014, 7:20 pm

      How jarring it is to watch Mads Gilbert’s wonderful, heartfelt speech, so filled with the greatest of humanity and compassion, and then to scroll down a little, to the second comment, and to be struck in the face with the stench of rot and corruption that heralds the arrival of yet another disgusting Zionist apologist, repeating ad nauseum the same old tired Lies of the Occupier.

      Mads Gilbert is a true mensch. ‘ezra greenberg’ couldn’t even watch 2 minutes of that video — that TRUTH — before dumping his ‘bomb’ and flying his pimpled ass back to Hasbara Central.

      Better propagandists, please!

      • Mooser on August 8, 2014, 11:52 pm

        “and to be struck in the face with the stench of rot and corruption that heralds the arrival of yet another disgusting Zionist apologist.”

        I’ve become convinced that the Zionists believe that by making themselves obnoxious and unpleasant in every way, the world will give in and give them what they want. Well, the world may not, but they seem to think it’s possible to settle on and annex the Mondo comment section using that technique.

      • ezra greenberg on August 9, 2014, 3:35 pm

        Comparing the Occupation of Europe by the Germans during World War II, and the Israeli so called Occupation of the West Bank, is misplaced and just stupid. The Nazi Occupations of Europe were acts of naked aggression. Correct me if I am wrong, but the Scandinavian countries did not threaten Germany before being Occupied. In stark contrast, Israel Occupied territory after the Six Day War only after they were threatened from these territories, primarily the Sinai (since returned to Egypt), the West Bank (civilian control since returned to PLO) and Gaza (lock stock and barrel returned to Hamas, although Israel is prudently watching its back). Israel has in fact returned over 90% of the territory they justifiably seized in the Six Day War. So any comparisons between these two Occupations is just dumb.

      • Bumblebye on August 9, 2014, 5:45 pm

        Mmmhmm. You keep believing in your silly fairy tales ez, rather than reality. Gaza has not been “returned to Hamas”, it is under near total siege conditions by its belligerent occupier. The West Bank is also under occupation and near siege conditions, as the indigenous people do not have any but a modicum of civic control in area A. Israel entered into a war of choice in 67 in order to steal the rest of Palestine and parts of Syria, etc.

    • kalithea on August 9, 2014, 12:19 am

      Israel has been trying to find a just dispensation of these territories ever since, which would somehow reconcile Israeli security needs with legitimate Palestinian aspirations. This has been difficult to do for a variety of reasons, not enough space here to mention.

      Not enough space huh? Let me do the honors: LAND THEFT year after year is the only reason Israel has not found just dispensation! And I laugh out loud at your usage of just as nothing Israel does regarding the Palestinians is just!

      And you think Hamas are genocidal psychopaths? We just witnessed the latter dropping hundreds of bombs on Gaza! And one more thing, when you get rid of Hamas, think of this: be careful what you wish for, because ISIL might fill the void and then finally you’ll have to do battle with a psychopathic army that rivals yours!

      • ezra greenberg on August 9, 2014, 1:23 pm

        Well, for some peculiar reason, the Israelis don’t like being rocketed. Not sure why, I love a good fireworks display. Nonetheless, Israel waited several days, and asked Hamas politely to refrain from the fireworks show. Hamas did not respond, perhaps they wanted to be invited over for some coffee and cake? Not sure. In any event, it was only at that point that Israel counter-attacked. Now I have asked before what exactly Israel should have done, short of directing all Israeli citizens to lie on the ground prostrate with a big sign saying “shoot me” on it (with the proviso, of course, that Israel reimburse for the cost of the bullets) and I have not been given any practical responses. So yes, there were alot of unfortunate casualties, which were basically self inflicted: no rockets, no retaliation, no bloodshed. The Israelis will never forgive the Arabs for making them kill them.

      • lyn117 on August 9, 2014, 11:04 pm

        Well, you know, if you went out when Hamas was firing those rockets, you would probably be safer than if you went out when they weren’t. Since traffic accidents kill far more Israelis than the rockets and everyone else would be hiding, you’d be safer.

    • talknic on August 9, 2014, 10:41 am

      @ ezra greenberg “Let us consider this so called Occupation. What was its genesis. Was there always an Occupation? “

      The Israeli Government itself CLAIMED in 1948 that it occupied non-Israeli territory.

      On May 22, 1948 UNSC S/766 the Provisional Government of Israel answered questions addressed to the “Jewish authorities in Palestine” was transmitted by the acting representative of Israel at the United Nations.
      Question (a): Over which areas of Palestine do you actually exercise control at present over the entire area of the Jewish State as defined in the Resolution of the General Assembly of the 29th November, 1947?
      “In addition, the Provisional Government exercises control over the city of Jaffa; Northwestern Galilee, including Acre, Zib, Base, and the Jewish settlements up to the Lebanese frontier; a strip of territory alongside the road from Hilda to Jerusalem; almost all of new Jerusalem; and of the Jewish quarter within the walls of the Old City of Jerusalem. The above areas, outside the territory of the State of Israel , are under the control of the military authorities of the State of Israel, who are strictly adhering to international regulations in this regard. The Southern Negev is uninhabited desert over which no effective authority has ever existed.” … ” the Government of the State of Israel operates in parts of Palestine outside the territory of the State of Israel

      “international regulations” at the time say;

      Laws and Customs of War on Land (Hague IV); October 18, 1907 Art. 42 SECTION III

      “Territory is considered occupied when it is actually placed under the authority of the hostile army. The occupation extends only to the territory where such authority has been established and can be exercised.”

      12 Aug 1948

      the Provisional Israeli Government proclaimed Jerusalem Declared Israel-Occupied City- by Israeli Government Proclamation 12 Aug 1948

      Occupation can actually be dated from May 22nd 1948 by the Israeli Government’s own admissions

      “Before 1967, and indeed between 1948 and 1967, there was no Occupation of Gaza and the West Bank”

      Strange … under the Armistice Agreement Egypt had with Israel, Egypt was the Occupying Power over Gaza. Unlike Israel, Egypt didn’t created illegal facts on the ground or illegally settle.

      “Only after Israel seized these territories in the defensive war of 1967..”

      Uh? Israel attacked in 1966 … it preempted .. and again in 1967. No mention of any ‘defensive’ war in any of the UNSC resolutions, ceasefire agreements or peace treaties.

      “Only after Israel seized these territories in the defensive war of 1967 were they Occupied”

      So they are occupied. Glad we got that sorted.

      “(As an aside, is it not interesting to note that there was no effort to establish a Palestinian State between 1948 and 1967? Just saying…..)”

      Your ignorance is outstanding. The West Bank was under the sovereignty of Jordan. The West Bank as it is now known, was legally annexed at the request of the Palestinians Jordan’s annexation was as a trustee only (Session: 12-II Date: May 1950).

      The legal bilateral annexation by Jordan of what was officially renamed the West Bank, was never condemned by the UNSC.

      Unlike Israel’s illegal unilateral annexation of East Jerusalem which has been condemned by the UNSC
      UNSC Res 252 (1968) of 21 May 1968, 267 (1969) of 3 July 1969, 271 (1969) of 15 September 1969, 298 (1971) of 25 September 1971, 446 (1979) of 22 March 1979, 452 (1979) 20 July 1979, 465 (1980) of 1 March 1980, 476 June 30 1980 and 478 August 20 1980. None of which have anything to do with race or religion. They’re based on the UN Charter, International Law and the GC’s, all of which Israel obliged itself to uphold. Alas it hasn’t.

      Gaza was occupied by Egypt. Neither Gaza or the West Bank could be declared an independent state under those circumstances. Nor could the remainder of Palestine occupied by Israel

      “Israel has been trying to find a just dispensation of these territories ever since, which would somehow reconcile Israeli security needs with legitimate Palestinian aspirations”

      Bullsh*t! The UNSC resolutions tell us Israel has been illegally annexing, illegally settling and; no state has the right to illegally acquire ANY territory by war for its own security. The acquisition of territory by force has been illegal since at least 1933

      “But why deal with nuance when one can just deal with sound bites and catch phrases?”

      All you have is sound bites and catch phrases. Nothing factual. Just the usual easily disproven Hasbara ziopoop.

    • kma on August 9, 2014, 9:09 pm

      “ezra greenberg”:
      if you are for real, and not a paid robot, you do realize you are publicly advocating for the ethnic cleansing of an entire population which has gone on for many decades and taken hundreds of thousands of lives. AND you are airing your dirty thoughts against a doctor who is fighting for the lives of the people who Israel needs to exterminate to “exist”. Wow, are you scum.

  3. Stephen Shenfield on August 8, 2014, 11:25 am

    Yes, this is a crucial point that the floods of propaganda against Hamas and Hezbollah obscure and are meant to obscure, irrespective of the extent to which specific propaganda claims are true or false. Israel hates the Islamists not because they seek to establish a caliphate, not because they oppress women, not because they advocate barbaric punishments, and so on and so forth, but simply because they are among “the most resilient” in fighting the occupation. Israel has nothing against Islamists who accept the occupation (if such exist). If the majority of Palestinians were Buddhists, we would hear endless propaganda about the evils of Buddhism. Less hypothetically, if the leading forces of resistance to the occupation were not Islamists but secular leftists such as the PFLP then we would again hear much less about Islam — instead Palestinians would be demonized as dangerous reds (like Jews used to be). Is the Shabak any softer on PFLP militants out of appreciation for their progressive positions on social issues? The very idea is ridiculous.

    • on August 8, 2014, 1:24 pm

      Israel and her PR machine don’t like anyone to mention the fact that many of her victims are Christian. That would detract from the Evil Islam meme.

      • bilal a on August 8, 2014, 9:56 pm

        anti-zionists in america do not like to mention christians in palestine either .wonderr why.

        “When I moved to Stamford Hill, 12 years ago, I didn’t realise that goyim were about as welcome in the Hasidic Jewish shops as Martin Luther King at a Ku Klux Klan convention. I didn’t realise that a purchase by a goy was a crime to be punished with monosyllabic terseness, or that bus seats were a potential source of contamination, or that road signs, and parking restrictions, were for people who hadn’t been chosen by God. And while none of this is a source of anything much more than irritation, when I see an eight-year-old boy recoiling from a normal-looking woman (because, presumably, he has been taught that she is dirty or dangerous, or, heaven forbid, dripping with menstrual blood) it makes me sad. ”

        Jewish hostility to Christians: the prejudice no one ever writes about
        http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100049072/jewish-hostility-to-christians-the-prejudice-no-one-ever-writes-about/

  4. adele on August 8, 2014, 11:26 am

    WOW! WOW! WOW! The analogies that Dr. Gilbert uses to relate the Palestinian struggle will resonate with many many people. He captures and translates it with incredible clarity.

    Has he been interviewed by any MSM outlets in the U.S.?

  5. gracie fr on August 8, 2014, 5:20 pm

    For Hamas, the choice wasn’t so much between peace and war as between slow strangulation and a war that had a chance, however slim, of loosening the squeeze. It sees itself in a battle for its survival. Its future in Gaza hangs on the outcome. Like Israel, it’s been careful to set rather limited aims, goals to which much of the international community is sympathetic. The primary objective is that Israel honour three past agreements: the Shalit prisoner exchange, including the release of the re-arrested prisoners; the November 2012 ceasefire, which calls for an end to Gaza’s closure; and the April 2014 reconciliation agreement, which would allow the Palestinian government to pay salaries in Gaza, staff its borders, receive much needed construction materials and open the pedestrian crossing with Egypt……..
    http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n16/nathan-thrall/hamass-chances

  6. kalithea on August 9, 2014, 12:22 am

    Just thank-you for your humanity and courage. Every word you write resonates as truth in an ocean of Zionist hasbara lies.

    I feel rage at having to witness Israelis wreak destruction and death on Gaza with impunity because they refuse to submit to confinement in a concentration camp.

    War crimes were committed in Gaza by Israelis and they must be prosecuted.

  7. kma on August 9, 2014, 2:06 am

    tusen takk!
    Gilbert was great on Democracy Now, he didn’t let them ask stupid questions without putting them straight. He should be on more often.

    yes, Gazans are being killed for existing, which is what Israel says can’t be because all those Palestinians are a threat to the “existence” of an ALL “Jewish” “state”.
    Israel knows that it does NOT exist and that it will never exist.

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