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Israeli military demolishes West Bank dairy factory benefitting orphans despite court appeal

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When 10-year-old Zahur Said and her friends were on their way to school last Monday, September 1st, Israeli authorities had already been surveying the area for hours.  When she returned, 300 square meters of crumbled concrete and mangled steel was all that remained of the Al Rayyan Dairy Factory in Northern Hebron.

For three years, the factory built in partnership by the Islamic Charitable Society in Hebron (ICS) and Al Rayyan Company has provided a sustainable source of revenue for two orphanages run by the ICS, as well as aiding ten different schools in the area.  It also supplied products like yogurt, milk and cheese to the organizations and families it benefits.

The factory received demolition orders two months ago on June 20th during the Israeli military’s Operation Brother’s Keeper.  Israeli authorities confiscated most of its working machinery two weeks later on July 2nd.  The ICS filed a case with the Israeli military court in the West Bank and had a court date scheduled for September 7th, 2014.  Six days before the case was to be heard, the factory was demolished, with ICS and Al Rayyan sustaining more than two million dollars in losses.

An arial view of the 1000 square meter compound that held the Al-Rayyan Dairy Factory.  The home from which the photo was taken was occupied by soldiers during the entirety of the demolition. (Photo: Kelly Lynn)

An arial view of the 1000 square meter compound that held the Al-Rayyan Dairy Factory. The home from which the photo was taken was occupied by soldiers during the entirety of the demolition. (Photo: Kelly Lynn)

Israeli authorities arrived at the 1000 square foot compound in Hebron’s Ar-Rahma neighborhood around 4:30am and began to survey the area. Witnesses say at least 50 soldiers arrived with border police positioned on the road below.

Ataef Al Jabari, a worker present when soldiers came, was told to sit outside while they searched the area.  At approximately 7am, bulldozers and trucks arrived and began to demolish the structure.  In addition to the factory, Israeli authorities demolished a large well beside the factory, owned by a neighbor.

“More than 50 families are fed by this factory.  I have four boys and my wife will give birth next month.  Now I have no work,” said Ataef.

Ataef Al Jabari, a worker employed by the factory looks into the demolished well. (Photo: Kelly Lynn)

Ataef Al Jabari, a worker employed by the factory looks into the demolished well. (Photo: Kelly Lynn)

The factory was built in 2011 with the help of the Kuwait government.  Its sole purpose was charity, providing work for graduated orphans, aiding neighboring schools and orphanages with the sum of its revenue, and buying ethically from local farmers who are often exploited by large companies.

A boy sits near a single desk drawer among other items salvaged by workers and volunteers. (Photo: Kelly Lynn)

A boy sits near a single desk drawer among other items salvaged by workers and volunteers. (Photo: Kelly Lynn)

In a statement published by the Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories (COGAT) on September 2nd regarding the incident, a spokesman said the following:

“Security forces carried out the demolition of an illegal building which was built without the necessary permits in the Hebron area. The building was demolished after the appropriate enforcement procedure was completed and a demolition order was delivered.”

When asked if the COGAT plans to compensate the financial losses sustained by the various schools and orphanages that the dairy factory funded, the spokesperson responded;

“The demolished building included a cowshed and a dairy production plant of 4,000 square meters, which were not in current use. The activity of this dairy production plant is related to terror organizations and serves part of the orphanages of the Islamic Charity Society which is also associated with terrorist activities.”

The COGAT did not respond to further questions requesting details of these allegations.

Also demolished was a large well adjacent to the factory, belonging to a neighbor. (Photo: Kelly Lynn)

Also demolished was a large well adjacent to the factory, belonging to a neighbor. (Photo: Kelly Lynn)

Hatim Al Bakri, the head of administration for the Islamic Charitable Society maintains that the ICS and Al-Rayyan Factory are legal organizations that abide by regulations stipulated by the Palestinian Authority.

With the appropriate permits obtained, the land owned by the ICS was first converted into a cow farm for local farmers in 1991, before the Oslo Accords and subsequent separation of the West Bank into Areas A, B and C.

After Oslo, the farm was classified as falling within Area C, land under full Israeli military and civil control.  Despite owning the land, the ICS needed a permit from the Israeli Civil Administration to build.  The vast majority of these building permits are denied and the ICS did not obtain one when they built the factory in 2011.

Local boys assist in hauling salvaged items out of the factory compound. (Photo: Kelly Lynn)

Local boys assist in hauling salvaged items out of the factory compound. (Photo: Kelly Lynn)

In response to allegations of being associated with ‘terrorist activities,’ Al Bakri asked, “Why didn’t they send a group to check our papers to see where we send our money and where we get funding? All the orphans now will receive less support because of this loss.  It was the main source of funding for them.”

Assuming Israeli authorities were targeting Hamas, as the crackdown was widely publicized during Operation Brother’s Keeper, Mamoon Rashed, the head of administration for Al Rayyan Company and manager of the factory also commented, “There is no one here that is Hamas and if we support Hamas and get funding from them, why didn’t they arrest anyone from our administration or our workers?”

Kamal Al Jabari holds a plastic bag while another worker fills it with milk in an effort to save what was left after demolition.  His 4-year-old son stands beside him. (Photo: Kelly Lynn)

Kamal Al Jabari holds a plastic bag while another worker fills it with milk in an effort to save what was left after demolition. His 4-year-old son stands beside him. (Photo: Kelly Lynn)

37-year-old Kamal Al Jabari had worked for Al-Rayyan for 5 years and arrived to the factory before it was destroyed.

“It’s nothing more than revenge.  It’s like a nuclear bomb for us. They can do it Gaza and they can do it here,” said Kamal.

Kamal’s two sons helped salvage plastic crates scattered among the ruins.  The faces of 6-year-old Mohye Al Deen and 4-year-old Abed Al Hady seemed to mirror their father’s dejection.

“Even if they demolish it, we are like seeds.  We keep growing.  We never die.  The Israelis are better than us in the media.  They can change this story.  But this soil is mixed with our blood,” said Kamal.

Kamal Al Jabari walks with his two sons as they help to salvage what is left. (Photo: Kelly Lynn)

Kamal Al Jabari walks with his two sons as they help to salvage what is left. (Photo: Kelly Lynn)

Business cards and yogurt tops scattered around the parking lot, now used as space to hold salvaged items. (Photo: Kelly Lynn)

Business cards and yogurt tops scattered around the parking lot, now used as space to hold salvaged items. (Photo: Kelly Lynn)


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  1. Kay24
    Kay24 on September 11, 2014, 9:42 am

    Whether it is collective punishment, cruelty, or basic hatred for Palestinians, the zionists must have some evil in their DNA, while they do the work of the devil.

    If not for MDW and similar sources, we would never hear of these terrible incidents, since the US media covers up Israel’s crimes.

    • on September 11, 2014, 11:31 am

      This just makes most rational people loathe Israel even more and makes us question the motives and integrity of those who support these Israeli crimes. By such actions Israel is hastening the day of reckoning.

      • Kay24
        Kay24 on September 11, 2014, 1:17 pm

        You are right about the dislike part. Israel is one of the most disliked nations in the world (no surprise) it is only beloved and adored in the US (I somehow think the numbers are actually lower than we think), every time I read about Israel’s nasty crimes, I do feel a sense of dislike for that nation.

      • bryan
        bryan on September 12, 2014, 8:25 am

        Kay, I am totally at ease with your reference to “Israel’s crimes” (the state of Israel is directly responsible for IDF’s atrocities in Gaza and the iniquities of the military administration in the West Bank). However when you progress to refer to your “dislike for [the Israeli] nation”, I have to point out that you are entering the dangerous area of stereotyping, not to say racism. One of the few incontrovertible truths of human existence is that there are good (and bad) in all peoples, religions and ethnicities. The tragedy that is Israel is not that its people are evil, but that its institutions are dysfunctional, its ideology is malign, its army and secret services are not held to account, its legal system lacks transparency, its political system is too weak and divided and its democratic deficit too large to do anything but maintain the status quo, its actions are not accurately portrayed in the international media and that a powerful and reactionary Christian and Jewish elite in the Western world provide it with financial, diplomatic and military support. Were its people hateful the situation would be hopeless, but they are not, and when all the other problems are sorted out (and they can all be reformed) then Israel can become a light unto the world.

      • Taxi
        Taxi on September 12, 2014, 10:40 am


        What Kay thinks is how the majority of the world thinks of israel. It’s israelis who are voting for their Aparthied institutions, not kay. They are fully responsible for the loathing they receive.

        And no: the israelis are not “a light onto the world” – they never were and they never will be.

        They are, collectively speaking, a disgustingly racist nation and proud of it.

      • ziusudra
        ziusudra on September 13, 2014, 5:32 am

        Greetings bryan,
        …dislike for the Israeli Nation…..
        Agreed Bryan, it is never the People who are responsible. The majority of Germans from 33 to 45 saluted Hitler & Nazism. The majority of Israelis from 48 to 14 saluted one right wing goverment,
        after the other. People are responsible.
        PS McCain keeps getting voted into office by the people of his state. So be it with the Likud.

    • Boomer
      Boomer on September 11, 2014, 11:39 am

      So true. And so sad.

    • Marnie
      Marnie on September 11, 2014, 12:17 pm

      “The demolished building included a cowshed and a dairy production plant of 4,000 square meters, which were not in current use. The activity of this dairy production plant is related to terror organizations and serves part of the orphanages of the Islamic Charity Society which is also associated with terrorist activities.”

      I think the devil just got one-upped.

  2. eljay
    eljay on September 11, 2014, 9:56 am

    Aggressor-victimhood is hard work, but hateful and immoral Zio-supremacists never seem to tire of it.

  3. seafoid
    seafoid on September 11, 2014, 9:59 am

    Thank you Kelly. Israel has an apparently incurable mental illness.

    “One may say that this single-opinion politics reflects public opinion. That the unity of the people and its uniformity are positive phenomena – but they are not. This depressing unity reflects intellectual paralysis and ideological stagnation. When was the last time a new idea was raised here, however small? An idea that has never before been uttered? Everything is turning upside down in our region, except for Israel’s policies: Its wars are revolve around preserving the status quo.
    And what is the Israeli chorus asking for? That the occupation continue, the blockade be extended and that life in Israel be quiet. A second opnion, just like after visiting a doctor? Here there is no second opinion; there is barely a first opinion – and it is yesterday’s opinion.
    Between most of the political parties in Israel there is only one party line, and it is a line of conservatism and pretending. The two-state solution, for example, is seemingly the view of the majority; most parties support it and no one has done anything to carry it out. The opposite is true; Israel – that of the right and of the center-left – has done everything to destroy it. The success was made a long time ago and two-state solution has died. Few applauded, even fewer acted; and the most important thing, no one offered an alternative idea, even when it was quite clear that the solution was no longer relevant.
    This stagnation will give birth to a disaster; this single-mindedness forebodes tragedy. It is not just a case of losing one’s way, but of harm to democracy, too. And what exactly will we get in the elections if the Netanyahu government – the most right-wing in the history of Israel – falls? A government to the right of it, maybe similar. If once it was common to say “two Israelis, three opinions,” now, three Israelis barely hold one opinion – and it is very right-wing. What is even worse is that this opinion belongs to yesterday. “

    • Kay24
      Kay24 on September 11, 2014, 10:03 am

      Similar conclusion Seafoid, it must be a mental issue that makes them behave this way.

      And we are supposed to believe THEY are the victims. Ha!

    • Mooser
      Mooser on September 11, 2014, 3:36 pm

      “Israel has an apparently incurable mental illness.”

      Oh, pshaw, or maybe even “incurable mental illness” forsooth! You must have gotten a bad coen-flake for breakfast, and it’s spoiling your mood. Why, there isn’t anything wrong with Israel that catastrophically losing a big war wouldn’t cure. Do ’em more good than a week at the sea-shore and the roses back in their cheeks. Life will seem much less boring, and I wouldn’t be surprised if both Israel’s mood and attitude doesn’t improve significantly after such an event.

  4. seafoid
    seafoid on September 11, 2014, 10:02 am
    • Kay24
      Kay24 on September 11, 2014, 11:20 am

      How about Tikkun Gaza? After all the damage that Israel has done, that needs MAJOR repairing.

      Israel damages Gaza and the world (with the US of course) must keep the repairing going.

      • seafoid
        seafoid on September 11, 2014, 11:47 am

        “At the moment, it still seems possible to prevent the truce from breaking down at the end of this month. But the almost complete absence of reconstruction work in Gaza and Hamas’ difficulty in presenting any real achievements from the war are increasing the risk that the fighting will resume.
        Under the cease-fire agreement Egypt brokered in late August, the parties are supposed to return to Cairo around September 25 to negotiate over a longer-term truce. Hamas has recently been sending conflicting messages. Its military wing says it will resume the war if the organization’s demands aren’t met. But Moussa Abu Marzouk, a senior member of Hamas’ political wing who lives in Cairo, says the possibility of progress in the talks must first be thoroughly explored.
        As Haaretz reported on August 31, senior Israel Defense Forces officers have advised the government to be generous about easing the partial blockade of Gaza, on the theory that starting to repair the massive damage Gaza suffered is essential to prevent renewed fighting. Among other recommendations, they urged significantly easing movement through the border crossings and expanding Gaza’s fishing zone.
        Netanyahu and Ya’alon’s political bind
        Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon appear to understand that such steps are necessary, but are caught in a political bind: Hamas will present any such measures as concessions wrested from Israel by the fighting, which in turn will expose Netanyahu and Ya’alon to further criticism from their already unhappy right-wing base. “

  5. seafoid
    seafoid on September 11, 2014, 10:05 am

    I think we need a new movement called Tikkun Israel

    Tikkun Israel (Hebrew) is a new Hebrew phrase that means “repairing Israel ” (or “Zionism is really f#cked up “) which suggests humanity’s shared responsibility to heal, repair and transform Israel given that the Jewish diaspora is apparently not interested.

    In Judaism, the concept of tikkun olam originated in the early rabbinic period. The concept was given new meanings in the kabbalah of the medieval period and has come to possess further connotations in modern Judaism. This was all dismissed as gibberish by the early Zionists and the results are pretty sick so we have to try to help before it all goes down in flames.

    • straightline
      straightline on September 13, 2014, 7:33 pm

      Talking of Tikkun Israel, see this from MERC:

      Operation Protective Edge has had a significant financial effect on the Israeli economy. The direct cost of fighting with current reserve forces was USD$35 million per day. This does not include costs associated with damages, compensation for loss of work and revenue especially in the south, the expected drop of 0.5% in the gross domestic product, and the loss of the tourism dollar in the country as well.

      Experts are predicting a total cost of over USD$2.2 billion dollars as a result of the war.

      Funds that are normally channeled towards supporting social programs have been diverted to the defence budget, conscious of the fact that presently, Israel and its citizens need help from the rest of the world.

      I almost choked on my breakfast!

  6. a blah chick
    a blah chick on September 11, 2014, 10:38 am

    This is why the “boots on the ground” got their asses kicked in Gaza, they’ve forgotten how to fight people who can shoot back. Their military knows this, which is why they prefer to put metal (planes, tanks, drones) between themselves and their victims. And yet they dare call the Gaza resistance a bunch of cowards.

  7. gamal
    gamal on September 11, 2014, 10:44 am

    ” “But this soil is mixed with our blood,” said Kamal”

    “All Israeli’s are “religious” when it comes to the land” Haider Abdul Shafi, bloody soil is surely not Kosher.

    Israel is Lee J Cobb in 12 Angry Men, they will need help with their coat and compassion when they fuck off back where they came from.

    • seafoid
      seafoid on September 11, 2014, 12:01 pm

      “Israel is J lee Cobb”


      This ban on copying top class insights in the comments is really annoying.
      I was thinking of starting a sub but Phil can forget it as long as the ban runs.

      • amigo
        amigo on September 11, 2014, 1:32 pm

        “This ban on copying top class insights in the comments is really annoying. “seafoid

        Are you referring to copy/paste comments into your response???.

        If yes , then I don,t think there is a ban.

        Under the new system you no longer see the blue background when you highlight .It is a very pale pink , so just do the normal procedure and it will work fine.You will find as you progress , you dont even need to see a background colour.

        If your answer is no , then ignore my intervention

      • Mooser
        Mooser on September 11, 2014, 3:39 pm

        You know, don’t quote me on this, but it might be possible to adjust background or selection colors in the internet tool section of a computer.

  8. In2u
    In2u on September 11, 2014, 11:24 am

    And they wonder why the world hates them…

    • Marnie
      Marnie on September 11, 2014, 12:23 pm

      In2u – They know exactly why they are hated and do not give a tinker’s damn. Their plan is to wear the world out with their absolute hatefulness.

      Gamal – The Lee J. Cobb comparison is priceless, but me thinks the late joan rivers comes in near the top too.

      • Kay24
        Kay24 on September 11, 2014, 1:20 pm

        They sure do know why they are hated, and as you say they are too arrogant to give a damn.

        They also know they have the unwavering support of the US, even when they slaughter civilians.
        It seems the fact that they are as hated as North Korea, and one of the least liked nations in the world, does not make any difference.

  9. on September 11, 2014, 11:38 am

    As you reported, Art Spiegelman — celebrated comic book artist, illustrator and author of the Pulitzer Prize-winning “Maus — said on Facebook that “Israel is like some badly battered child with PTSD who has grown up to batter others.”

    This comes closest to explaining the extreme pathology of Israel. And the current Israeli government has achieved success by reinforcing and strengthening this pathology.

  10. Talkback
    Talkback on September 11, 2014, 11:46 am

    Wait. Doesn’t Hasbara teach us how important the presence of an occupier’s and his illegal settlers is to the ecomomy of the occupied? And how many jobs would be lost, if the illegal settler economy was removed?

  11. chocopie
    chocopie on September 11, 2014, 12:08 pm

    This is Israel: taking milk away from orphans.

    • just
      just on September 11, 2014, 1:46 pm

      The irony is legendary.

      Hallmark of the thoroughly uncivilized. Thank you Kelly.

    • Taxi
      Taxi on September 11, 2014, 1:49 pm

      taking milk away from orphans.

      Yeah by bombing the crap outta the cow.

  12. Kay24
    Kay24 on September 11, 2014, 1:39 pm

    This article certainly relates to what the World Bank says:

    “Israel curbing growth of Palestinian business, says World Bank
    Palestinian enterprises remain hostage to conflict, military rule, political division and lack of free movement and access, according to a new report.
    Political instability and military restrictions are the key obstacles to the growth of a successful private sector in the Palestinian territories, according to a new World Bank report.

    “It is imperative to alleviate the suffering of the Palestinian people and to provide new horizon for hope,” said Steen Jorgensen, World Bank Country Director for West Bank and Gaza, of the report, Investment Climate Assessment: Fragmentation and Uncertainty, released on Thursday.

    “Unleashing the potential of the private sector could improve living standards, create jobs and growth. It is in the interest of all parties to bring stability to the region and to abide by their commitments,” Jorgensen wrote.”

  13. DICKERSON3870
    DICKERSON3870 on September 11, 2014, 2:37 pm

    RE: “Israeli military demolishes West Bank dairy factory benefitting orphans despite court appeal “

    AS TO ISRAEL’S PSYCHE, SEE: “Is There a Way Beyond Israeli Madness?” [Will the Chosen People and the Exceptional People Go Down Together?] ~ by John Grant, Counterpunch, 8/31/12


    The patient, by the name of Israel, walks into the room and instantly bursts into a tirade of arguments conclusively proving his credentials, and says that he is better than everyone else.
    – Ofer Grosbard, “Israel On The Couch: The Psychology of the Peace Process”

    The problem Americans have with Israel is that the region it exists in is in the midst of a major political sea change, while Israel is frozen in time and holding on to its militarist, right-wing policies of extending settlements in the West Bank. It’s a policy that harks back to the ideas of the British-trained militarist Ze’ev Jabotinsky’s Iron Wall [now augmentad by the US-funded “Iron Dome” – J.L.D.], which is based on the idea a live-and-let-live policy between Jews and Arabs is impossible and, thus, Jews must militarily control and repress Palestinians . . .
    . . . How does a people turn back a racially-oriented demonization program with roots that extend back many decades? How do you ratchet down a nation’s narcissism so people are able to simply see the other as a human being? . . .
    . . . On our part, Americans and the United States need to stop being a permissive yes-man and begin to show Israel some tough love. We need more US criticism of Israel. No doubt this approach will be received with gales of cynical laughter from hardliners … but so what?
    In my mind, the Israeli narcissistic and arrogant mindset would benefit from a little Buddhist detachment, more of the posture that sees the world not of separate individual selves and egos but of human beings as part of a larger flow of life. The Buddhists call the self-obsessed, separatist state-of-mind [i.e. the “pale” of Israel surrounded by Ze’ev Jabotinsky’s “Iron Wall” augmentad by the US-funded “Iron Dome” – J.L.D.] that Israel thrives on and defends with weapons as “the illusory self.”
    “Once one identifies with a permanent self-concept, the pride and craving adhering to this become the pivot from which an egocentric world arises,” writes Gay Watson, a psychotherapist attuned to Buddhism.
    David Loy puts it this way: “To become completely groundless is also to become completely grounded, not in some particular, but in the whole network of interdependent relations that constitute the world.”
    I’m not suggesting Israel become a Buddhist nation. The point is for Israelis, and more important Americans, to figure a way out of the worsening condition of “us versus them” to avoid the need to obliterate them and set off a war that no one really wants. The point is to re-shape our minds to make “the other” less threatening to permit talking.
    I’m not holding my breath that Benjamin Netanyahu and Avigdor Lieberman are going to become peace activists.
    But I’m done as an American being a silent stooge while Israeli militarist madness fuels hatred and sets the stage for war.


    • DICKERSON3870
      DICKERSON3870 on September 11, 2014, 2:40 pm

      P.S. FROM JOEL KOVEL, 1-20-13:

      [EXCERPT] . . . As with everyone I know of in official political culture, [Thomas] Friedman assumes that Israel is a rational actor on the international stage who will obey the calculus of reward and punishment that regulates the conduct of normal states.
      The presumption is that if you tell it the truth, and even pull back US support, it will get the message, reflect, and change its ways. But Israel is not a normal state, except superficially. It will make adjustments, pulling back here, co-operating there, making nice when necessary, crafting its message using a powerful propaganda apparatus employing the most up-to-date social science. But this is simply tactical and no more predicts or explains the behavior of the Zionist state than an individual sociopath can be explained by the fact that he obeys traffic signals while driving to the scene of his crime. . .

      SOURCE –

  14. Mooser
    Mooser on September 11, 2014, 3:44 pm

    Gosh, I’m getting nostalgic. Remember the old days? When Israel did something like this, we used to get lots of comment explaining how the milk was poisoned with hamas, or was udderly terrorist, or trying to explain illegal legal Israel’s “policy”. Or even just saying “But they must have had a good reason to do this!” And then link to something like or something.

    Oh well, I guess the old vim is lacking, huh.

  15. Ismail
    Ismail on September 11, 2014, 3:51 pm

    I call for a moratorium on using the concept of mental illness to account for Israel’s crimes.

    First of all, it does a disservice to the mentally ill, who are by and large not criminally aggressive and who are not reponsible for whatever transgressions they might commit.

    More important, it removes the discussion from the arena of politics, where the possibilities of collective action flourish, and places it instead in a psychological narrative, essentially individualistic, which pulls for therapeutic, not political, correctives. Not an alley progressives should want to go down, in my book.

    For an activist, how does calling Zionists crazy change anything? What if they’re not crazy, just acting on political imperatives that decent people must challenge?

    I think the discourse of mental illness adds nothing to political thinking. As much as I enjoyed that book/documentary from some time ago which described the modern corporation as essentially a sociopathic entity, it really offered no guidance to activism.

    Politics is politics. Psychology isn’t.

    • aiman
      aiman on September 11, 2014, 11:29 pm

      Good point. The mental illness analogy also excuses Israel’s barbarity. What nation or people has not had a rocky history? Israel is acting true to the character it has shaped for itself. It is responsible for its actions and it will be judged by them.

  16. Mooser
    Mooser on September 11, 2014, 5:24 pm

    I wish the idea that a country with almost totalitarian control over the population, which is constantly buffeted by propaganda, beset by fear and an educational system dedicated to indoctrination instead of education, with a public discourse of racist determinism can induce a state amounting to psychopathy in its citizens could be dismissed, too.
    But unfortunately, it can’t.

    • Ismail
      Ismail on September 12, 2014, 10:14 am

      Sorry, Moose, no sale. You could say the same about every imperialist, expropriating, illiberal or despotic state around. Saudi’s crazy, the US is crazy…how does this add to what we know about political criminality, its origins and its downfall? All you get is the warm satisfaction of denouncing policies you don’t like – “Boo, Israel!” – without much of a program.

      I guess you could say that all states act sociopathically, in the sense that perceived state interests take precedence over other considerations. What state has ever given up an advantage b/c it’s the right thing to do? But who cares? Makes not a whit of difference to how one goes about challenging the policies of this state or that.

      I’m sort of a vigilante on this issue – the insinuation of psychological narratives into political discourse. Obama’s by nature a consensus-builder, Clinton defended his poor mom and so became a defender of the downtrodden – rubbish.

      Ninety-five percent of these guys’ actions – and those of Israel – are perfectly adequately explained with reference to ordinary political categories. I’ll give you psychological motivations for the other 5%. Call it my innate Arab generosity…

      Israel’s policies are reprehensible not b/c they’re crazy, but b/c they are fabulously unjust and patently criminal.

      • Mooser
        Mooser on September 12, 2014, 5:35 pm

        You think that comparisons between Israel’s actions and mental illness can lead to a sort of “diminished capacity defense” and lessen the accountability which might someday be demanded? Good point.
        Yes, I can see them grasping at any straw, when excuses are needed. I’ll take your suggestion about Israel/mental illness, and thank you for it.
        If I wait, it wouldn’t surprise me if they offer it themselves at some point as an excuse.

  17. justicewillprevail
    justicewillprevail on September 11, 2014, 6:10 pm

    Milk production is an existential threat to Israel. Its citizens can’t sleep at night without worrying about those terrorist cows and their deadly milk. The vindictive lunacy of these sadists is beyond satire. Their excuses are laughable, transparent lies, their only goal is the destruction of an entire people – attacking the weakest, most deserving people in a society who depend on charity is the lowest form of cowardly racist behaviour. Fascist lowlife.

  18. RoHa
    RoHa on September 11, 2014, 7:11 pm

    “The demolished building included a cowshed and a dairy production plant of 4,000 square meters, which were not in current use.”

    Not in current use because the Israelis had already confiscated the equipment. (No doubt it will turn up in a Jewish-owned milk processing plant, with a little plaque saying “Donated by Kuwait”.)

    “The activity of this dairy production plant is related to terror organizations”

    I shudder at the thought of what terrorists could do with a pot of yoghurt.

  19. Kay24
    Kay24 on September 11, 2014, 9:25 pm

    Lying is second nature to the Israelis. They kill innocent civilians and make up lies about it.
    Shame on them.

    ” Palestinian teen killed by bullet to head, despite Israeli police denial
    Israeli pathologists who performed autopsy said to agree; death of Mohammed Sunuqrut, 16, has sparked violent protests in capital’s eastside.
    By Nir Hasson

    The Palestinian teenager who died Sunday of injuries incurred during a demonstration in East Jerusalem could only have been killed by a plastic or sponge-tipped bullet, not by a fall as police have claimed, according to Israeli and Palestinian sources.”


    • Talkback
      Talkback on September 12, 2014, 8:51 am

      Kay24: “Lying is second nature to the Israelis.”

      Kay24, sometimes it seems to me that you talk about Zionists or Israelis, but in fact you mean Jews as such, because you use antisemitic stereotypes. Is this intentional? If not, please be more careful.

      • Mooser
        Mooser on September 12, 2014, 11:54 am

        People in an expansionist colonial project lying about events concerning the people they are oppressing is hardly an anti-Semitic stereotype. It’s a proven fact, for several hundred years.

        There’s nothing “Jewish” about it.

      • Mooser
        Mooser on September 12, 2014, 12:02 pm

        “you mean Jews as such,”

        See what I mean about not knowing much? I thought Israel called itself “The Jewish State”

      • Philemon
        Philemon on September 12, 2014, 8:20 pm

        Talkback, I’m trying to parse your “anti-semitism” shtick here. Is it that you are under the impression that Jewish Israelis never lie? Because, I hate to break it to you, but they lie, a lot, like practically all the time. Especially when they feel insecure… And that’s practically all the time.

        Have you been living under a rock that you don’t get that?

      • Talkback
        Talkback on September 13, 2014, 3:58 am


        You are talking about “People in an expansionist colonial project”. I was asking if Kay24 means Jews as such. ‘Lying is second nature to the Jews’ is an antisemitic stereotype. Not all Jews support or are in an expansionist colonial project. Unless you want to argue that Jews had been ‘People in an expansionist colonial project’ since they came to Canaan.

      • Shmuel
        Shmuel on September 13, 2014, 5:15 am

        Because, I hate to break it to you, but they lie, a lot, like practically all the time. Especially when they feel insecure… And that’s practically all the time.

        And how would that make them any different from other human beings? Diogenes didn’t live in Tel Aviv.

        On a less philosophical note, the problem lies in the generalisation. Then again, I’m an Israeli Jew, so you might want to take my words with a grain of salt.

      • straightline
        straightline on September 13, 2014, 10:19 pm

        Do you mean Epimenides, Shmuel? I think Diogenes Laertius wrote about him. It was the Cretans who were the liars according to Epimenides – and he was a Cretan.

      • Shmuel
        Shmuel on September 14, 2014, 2:52 am

        Do you mean Epimenides?

        No, I meant Diogenes of Sinope (the Cynic), said to have carried a lamp in the daytime, claiming to be “looking for an honest man”.

      • Philemon
        Philemon on September 16, 2014, 8:35 pm

        Yep, the Liar Paradox was originally Epimenides’ baby… But it was Cretans, not Jews. And it was all Cretans all the time, no qualifications, which is what makes it so fun philosophically.

        On a less philosophical note, Kay was talking about official Israeli government lies, in particular, Israeli police lies, so I really couldn’t see how she was over-generalizing, or over-specifying, or making it about all, or even most, Jews all the time, such that it could be seen as specifically anti-Jewish as opposed to anti-Israeli, in particular the ruling Israeli polity which commits war crimes and lies about them, practically all the time, in large part because they feel they have to. Pretty much along the lines of, “They would say that, wouldn’t they?” There’s nothing about being Jewish that makes them lie; it’s all that trying to cover-up what they have done.

        Shmuel, people generalize about U.S. Americans all the time, but there isn’t a big “Oh, that’s a bad, nasty, it’s-wrong-to-even-think-that because it’s an anti-American stereotype” cudgel like there is with “anti-semitism.” People take it for granted that present company is excepted, for the most part, and that there are exceptions to every rule.

      • Philemon
        Philemon on September 16, 2014, 9:10 pm

        Because, I hate to break it to you, but they lie, a lot, like practically all the time. Especially when they feel insecure… And that’s practically all the time.

        “And how would that make them any different from other human beings?”


  20. Mooser
    Mooser on September 12, 2014, 11:59 am

    Listen, talkback, I don’t know much, (as I have more than adequately demonstrated on several occasions witnessed by competent observers, records on request and submission of SASE)
    but I know in this world you don’t get to be the remnants of a persecuted people seeking refuge, and some kind of aristocracy which can control people’s speech, even when they are excited or indignant.

    We should pick one, and stick to it, y’know?

  21. concernedhuman
    concernedhuman on September 12, 2014, 6:17 pm

    Why is israel against Palestinians eating peaceful Yoghurt?
    Where the HELL is so called corrupt, biased hypocrite International community?!!

    Israel just made one more settlement by destroying it and occupying it calmly !!!

  22. globalconsciousness
    globalconsciousness on September 12, 2014, 9:22 pm

    Given this summer of infamy, one would think that no action that Israel takes could be worse than the death and destruction of the 3 operations Israel has inflicted on the people of Gaza but something about this destruction of a dairy farm aimed at empowering and improving the lives of marginalized children really struck a chord for me…perhaps it is the structural violence that the people in both Gaza and the occupied West Bank are suffering on a daily basis and helplessness of this situation for many of us who can just watch as bystanders to Israel’s crimes…

  23. Talkback
    Talkback on September 13, 2014, 4:06 am

    That was a price tag attack.

    “The EU bans the import of organic produce from settlements. From September 1 it will block the entry of all animal products, including eggs, poultry and dairy.”

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