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This morning Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu tweeted pictures of his candle-lighting ceremony with an Israeli army unit on the first night of Hanukkah. His language at the event was bellicose and aimed at the murderous Palestinian Authority and in “defense of the most moral army in the world.” I was struck in particular by the dogs photo (as was Max Blumenthal, who passed it along). Hanukkah is the festival of lights, a time of joy. The prime minister of Israel tweets a photo of himself that looks like a reclusive tyrant from the last century.

Israel will lose all American Jews but the crazies. That is the clear message of that photo, indeed of several recent events.

Israel didn’t look like this when I was growing up. Not to American Jews anyway. The synagogue gave me a Zionist archaeology book about Masada for my bar mitzvah (maybe that’s what turned me into a Jewish zealot?) while it gave my brother a record of Abba Eban’s speech after the ’67 War to the UN. I didn’t understand a word about what Eban was talking about, but we were proud of Israel. Eban spoke English better than the English, it was said, and Israel was a brand that almost all Jews wanted to be associated with. My father bought the novels of Agnon, David Grossman, and Amos Oz. Yes, Begin was a terrorist but he had a dignity to him. Shamir was from Bialystok and lost his family in the Holocaust. The peace martyr Rabin was an out-and-out hero in American Jewish life and his wife was a class act (no one talked about his orders to break children’s bones in the First Intifada). Even Sharon had his charms. Ehud Olmert got published in The New York Review of Books. Tzipi Livni could talk at J Street and AIPAC. Michael Oren went to Princeton. He wrote impressive books that got fancy reviews.

Bringing the Debate to YouI’m talking about imagery and emotion, how things look, how they feel, and how they are passed on to the Jewish multitudes. Israel’s latest exports are drab or clueless and savage. The Finance Minister Naftali Bennett comes to Washington and dismisses world opinion as “a little thing called the rest of the world” and insults Martin Indyk, the courtliest man in the world, to the point that he talks about kicking Bennett’s ass, and Haim Saban, the leading Democratic fundraiser, is obviously angered by him. Caroline Glick shows up in the pages of the New Yorker as slightly unhinged, an impression she seeks to extend in a diatribe accusing European diplomats to their faces of anti-semitism for talking about the occupation.

The distinguished Oren has been replaced in the public mind by the two Rons, Prosor and Dermer. Ambassador Dermer has no tone. His father was the Miami beach mayor, and he’s a rightwinger who got his job because he had the trust and friendship of Netanyahu; and he’s only further alienated the Obama administration. Prosor gives a speech accusing Europe of anti-semitism for talking about the occupation. You failed us in the 1940s, you are failing us again, he says. How long can Israeli propagandists abuse the Holocaust without turning Americans’ stomachs? Not much longer, I don’t think. Ari Shavit was supposed to be the second coming of the literary greats. But there’s something off, he’s left a rightwing aftertaste.

The sense of Israel being represented by second-raters is advanced when you read the sassy tweets from Avi Mayer, or the Islamophobic propaganda of Matti Friedman. And meanwhile the kinds of Jewish minds we used to be so proud of in the American Jewish community, worldly thoughtful men like Shlomo Sand and Avraham Burg and Marcel Ophuls, are all publicly washing their hands of the Jewish state. And Yossi Gurvitz says Israel is turning itself into North Korea.

It’s not just imagery. Right now Israel has two giant substantive problems, the occupation and Gaza. It has done nothing to ameliorate the world’s bad opinion of these matters, it has just doubled down angrily against any criticism. The government looks to be moving further and further to the right and just who does Netanyahu think he is appealing to with this Hanukkah tweet?

The Obama administration can’t come out against Netanyahu, but the American Jewish community can. There has to be a crisis inside the offices of the Israel lobby. The 92d Street Y can’t sell this new Israel in that big hall with Jefferson and Maimonides and Moses incised in gilt at the top of the wall. The JCC’s don’t want pictures of muzzled attack dogs and commandos in balaclavas on Hanukkah; that’s a real nightmare, it can’t come here. Haim Saban can’t stand for the limitless contempt for European business, Bennett doesn’t understand how many people he alienated.

Israel will keep its lobby, but increasingly it will be the crazies, the hardcases, the fools. I predict an open uprising in the American Jewish community in the next few weeks before the election.

(Allison Deger was first to spot the Netanyahu speech; she likened it to a Miley Cyrus video.)

Philip Weiss

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  1. amigo on December 17, 2014, 11:13 am

    Why are the dogs muzzled.Surely there are no Palestinian Terrorists at the celebration.

    Why do the soldiers have their faces covered.I thought only Khamas Terroreeests wore face masks.

    Phillip is right.This image of the New Jerusalem is hardly something to be proud of .But there are those who will see victim hood in these images and others will see Jewish strength , ergo the realisation of the Greater Israel.

    • eljay on December 17, 2014, 11:22 am

      >> amigo: Why are the dogs muzzled. … Why do the soldiers have their faces covered. …

      Why isn’t Bibi wearing his Captain Israel outfit?

      • seafoid on December 17, 2014, 12:18 pm

        The dogs represent Yossi and Yosette Israeli except the dogs have more manners and a greater awareness of risk

    • Mooser on December 17, 2014, 11:29 am

      “Why are the dogs muzzled.”

      Once a dog is trained to do the most self-destructive thing any dog can do, attack people, it can’t be left unmuzzled aroound people. When its ‘working’ life is over (and it’s not too long,) the dog, in almost every case, must be destroyed. It can’t be trusted around people.
      But then again, given how the Zionists are given to using people, I suppose I shouldn’t be shocked. And dogs are, of course trefe so who cares?

      • Mooser on December 17, 2014, 11:35 am

        “Why are the dogs muzzled.”

        Dogs have extraordinarily sensitive noses. Some people claim they can actually smell DNA! Why take chances?

      • seafoid on December 17, 2014, 12:19 pm

        Once a dog is trained to do the most self-destructive thing any dog can do, attack people, it can’t be left unmuzzled aroound people. –

        Same goes for Naftali Bennett and Glick.
        They need to be sent off to a puppy retraining facility and defanged.

      • Mooser on December 17, 2014, 12:33 pm

        Or who knows, maybe that dog is as friendly as all get-out, a real family pet, not an attack dog, so they put the muzzle on him for effect. Who knows with them?

      • amigo on December 17, 2014, 12:43 pm

        “Dogs have extraordinarily sensitive noses. Some people claim they can actually smell DNA! Why take chances?”Mooser.

        Now you tell me just days after I got my Jewish DNA implant as my Xmas gift.How do I revert.

        ” It can’t be trusted around people.” Mooser.

        Sorry but there are no people, (humans) in that photo.

      • Brewer on December 17, 2014, 2:37 pm

        Those are not muzzles, they’re mouth guards – everyone needs one in company like that.

      • Qualtrough on December 17, 2014, 9:30 pm

        A long time ago when I attended an American school in Europe there was a small group of Israeli students who rode on our school bus. I vividly recall being shocked when one of the boys approvingly told us how they used to shoot dogs out in the desert as part of some military affiliated youth training. When I expressed my surprise and disgust that he enjoyed shooting dogs he made it very clear that they were only dogs and of no value. None of the other Israeli students on the bus thought there was anything untoward about it. So much for shared values.

      • Brewer on December 18, 2014, 12:18 am

        Danger of Rabies. The dog might catch it should it happen to bite someone.

      • Marnie on December 18, 2014, 2:11 am

        Why isn’t Netanyahu muzzled. He’s obviously the most dangerous prop in the picture.

        This is exactly the Hannukah greeting card the world absolutely must see! This can’t be a spontaneous moment. This is staged. They dig it, seriously, this picture and all the subtexts. Fear our Power! The horror that is the GoI, from “Bucky” Bennett, the death’s head visage of Feiglin, the dominatrix Shaked, and on the civilian side, the barely can stay in her own skin Caroline Glick.

    • on December 17, 2014, 5:25 pm

      “Israel will lose all American Jews but the crazies”.

      So they will lose what? 10% of American Jews?

      When it comes to Israel and a deep belief in ongoing anti-Semitism everywhere in the world, most Jews are certifiable.

  2. CloakAndDagger on December 17, 2014, 11:18 am

    Ah, but wouldn’t it be great if those crazies would emigrate to Israel? I know – unfair to the Palestinians, but I am an America-firster, so I would like to see a sharp decline of crazies here at home. Once our own ship is in order, we can turn our attention on the saving others.

  3. annie on December 17, 2014, 11:28 am

    you’ve been prescient and one step ahead in framing this inevitable parting of the ways phil. great run down.

    • just on December 17, 2014, 11:35 am

      +1.

    • Krauss on December 17, 2014, 5:35 pm

      I like to read Phil for no other reason than even when I agree with him, as in this case, I still disagree with the origins.

      Livni, Oren and these people are still active, so is Olmert.
      Phil talks about unhinged people, but people like Abba Eban was the one who introduced the “Auschwitz lines” talking point.

      The truth is that Israeli politics has always been like this. The main difference is how the world has reacted to it. In this sense, I don’t agree with Phil’s framing of personell. Bibi is a pretty impressive guy, high IQ, very educated, former commando, etc.

      The reality is that non-Jews in particular ae turning against these people on substance. Time has simply done its part. The Holocaust, like Ron Prosor tried, can’t be exploited that much more. People just sigh and move on.

      Another factor is that it is now mainstream to talk about the 1SS. People just sigh whenever they hear the words “peace process”, because they know it’s just continued colonization under pretext.

  4. Kay24 on December 17, 2014, 11:47 am

    That picture is so telling. Netanyahu looks like a tyrant surrounded by muzzled dogs and masked men holding deadly weapons, on what is considered a Holy day for Jews.
    At least at a time like that, it would have been good for his otherwise tarnished image to not appear menacing and surrounded by objects that show how violent Israel can be. Perhaps this was deliberately done, after all it is election time, and he must remind his right wing extremist supporters that he is so tough on those they occupy.

  5. seafoid on December 17, 2014, 12:20 pm

    The interesting thing in that photo is that the 2 conscripts and the 2 dogs are muzzled and the only one allowed to speak is the moron.

  6. seafoid on December 17, 2014, 12:24 pm

    Every year the leaders of Israel drift further to the right.
    Olmert was bad but Lieberman was worse and Bennett is the pits.

    Selling the latest incarnation of Jewish contempt for the world to American Jews, especially the young ones , is going to be impossible.

    One of the features of the modern world is how hard it is for minority languages to be adopted by people under 20. There is a much bigger world out there they want to be part of. And selling them Jewish hatred is very hard.

  7. Rusty Pipes on December 17, 2014, 12:30 pm

    Maybe it’s an apt reflection of the difference in emphasis for the celebration of Hanukkah in America vs. Israel. In America, a celebration of hope and freedom, in Israel, a celebration of the ultra-religious driving out the invaders.

    • JWalters on December 17, 2014, 8:50 pm

      The evidence is clear – the U.S. non-sectarian approach is providing a safer haven over time than the Zionist segregation approach.

    • michelle on December 18, 2014, 2:58 am

      .
      i heard/read the “ultra religious Jews” (or at least many of them)
      don’t support the injustice done ‘in their name’
      .
      G-d Bless
      .

  8. Brewer on December 17, 2014, 12:36 pm

    I guess its all in the perception.

    “Martin Indyk, the courtliest man in the world” and “The distinguished Oren” have always made my stomach churn. Both are propagandists of the worst kind as anyone even vaguely familiar with the History of Palestine could clearly see on first reading of their “impressive books. Indyk has a special place of loathing in my rogues gallery for his being raised “down under” just a few years after me. Watch how he reacts to Norman then spews gobbledegook to cover up his embarrassing inability to counter the valid points Norman raises:
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL819E147552FE923F

    Norman also pointed up the flaws in Oren’s “Six days of War”, nailing him for:
    “attaching equal weight to a public statement (or memoir) and the hard evidence of an internal document contradicting it, burying in an avalanche of dubious evidence a crucial counter-finding, minimizing, misrepresenting, or suppressing a crucial piece of evidence”
    – the hallmarks of the propagandist.
    http://www.ussliberty.org/orenbook.htm

    How does a reading of Oren’s 2011 essay strike one today? A sample:

    “What is the definition of an American ally? On an ideological level, an ally is a country that shares America’s values, reflects its founding spirit, and resonates with its people’s beliefs. Tactically, an ally stands with the United States through multiple conflicts and promotes its global vision. From its location at one strategic crossroads, an ally enhances American intelligence and defense capabilities, and provides ports and training for U.S. forces. Its army is formidable and unequivocally loyal to its democratic government. An ally helps secure America’s borders and assists in saving American lives on and off the battlefield. And an ally stimulates the U.S. economy through trade, technological innovation, and job creation. ”

    Have to go, my stomach is gurgling.

    • Brewer on December 17, 2014, 12:39 pm

      Forgot the link to “The Ultimate Ally. The “realists” are wrong: America needs Israel now more than ever. ”

      http://foreignpolicy.com/2011/04/25/the-ultimate-ally-2/

      • RoHa on December 17, 2014, 5:20 pm

        So, when they get the war going properly, we are going to see Israeli troops in the Ukraine fighting the Russians.

    • seafoid on December 17, 2014, 12:51 pm

      I was thinking the same about Oren. Another on message thug.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOymZyFw8z0

      As they say in Oz, as flash as a rat with a gold tooth (but the man has zero class).

      Don’t forget his vignette about the nakba day murders

      “the way the bodies fall, the fact that there’s no blood, someone who was hit in the back and a bullet has an exit wound, there is a tremendous amount of bleeding. There’s no bleeding in the picture. There are many, many inconsistencies. ”

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/2014/11/12/3815b2b9-0296-42bd-848d-459b8d8f42c3_story.html

      • Brewer on December 17, 2014, 2:04 pm

        “flash as a rat with a gold tooth”
        Lovely! Most apposite. Haven’t heard that saying for years. Some readers might need to know that “flash” downunder means “showy” – often applied to con-men, shonky used car salesmen. Ooops, do I need to define “shonky” ? Stiffen the crows, this could go on forever.

      • surewin on December 17, 2014, 4:29 pm

        Michael Oren is a slick, dangerous truth-twister. One day we’ll know a lot more about June 1967 and it won’t look much like his pretty picture of it. The minor consolations are that he is no longer ambassador and was removed from CNN as an “analyst”.

      • RoHa on December 17, 2014, 5:42 pm

        “Flash” always carries the connotation of “no moral substance”. The term was used in England at least in the early 19C, as we see from the name “Flashman”, the bully in Thomas Hughes’s Victorian novel Tom Brown’s Schooldays (and ‘hero’ of Fraser’s splendid 20C novels).

        I don’t know how old the song “Flash Company” is.

        http://www.traditionalmusic.co.uk/song-midis/Flash_Companie_(The_Yellow_Handkerchief).htm

        http://www.songlyrics.com/bella-hardy/yellow-handkerchief-lyrics/

      • Mooser on December 17, 2014, 6:01 pm

        “Ooops, do I need to define “shonky” ? “

        Oh no, the song “Shonky-Tonk Woman” explicates the meaning fully.

  9. oldgeezer on December 17, 2014, 12:57 pm

    I know Israel has some tigh tech weaponry but that seems like a hard way to light a candle.

    • JLewisDickerson on December 17, 2014, 3:41 pm

      RE: “I was struck in particular by the dogs photo (as was Max Blumenthal, who passed it along). Hanukkah is the festival of lights, a time of joy. The prime minister of Israel tweets a photo of himself that looks like a reclusive tyrant from the last century.” ~ Deger

      MY COMMENT: Perhaps it’s just me, but it seems quite perversely ironic that Israel uses German Shepherds (“an icon of the Third Reich”*) to to terrorize Palestinians.

      * FROM Dog Law Reporter:

      [EXCERPT] . . . In World War I, German shepherds were mobilized by a number of countries and served in national and colonial armies. Between the wars, the breed so quickly dominated law enforcement that in many places it is still just called the “police dog.” The “Germanness” of the dog obviously appealed to the Nazis, who made it into an icon of the Third Reich. They were picking up on the views of [Max von] Stephanitz himself [who is credited with perfecting the breed around 1900], who as noted above had seen the dog as reflecting the character of the Volk and described it, despite its mixed origins and recent breed status, as having an ancient and intimate relationship with Germans. Hitler named his first German shepherd “Wolf.” [German] Shepherds were used by the Nazis to control prisoners of war and guard concentration camps. . . .

      SOURCE – http://doglawreporter.blogspot.com/2010/06/nazi-myth-transformed-german-shepherds.html

      • JLewisDickerson on December 17, 2014, 4:11 pm

        RE: ” ‘I was struck in particular by the dogs photo . . . from the last century.’ ~ Deger”

        CORRECTION: Obviously, that should have been attributed to Phil instead of Allison.

      • Pixel on December 19, 2014, 6:09 am

        Good one, Dickerson!

  10. OlegR on December 17, 2014, 3:31 pm

    /worldly thoughtful men like Shlomo Sand and Avraham Burg and Marcel Ophuls, are all publicly washing their hands of the Jewish state. And Yossi Gurvitz says Israel is turning itself into North Korea. /

    Oh dear not Gurvitz anyone but him…

  11. NoMoreIsrael on December 17, 2014, 3:57 pm

    “Israel will lose all American Jews but the crazies.”

    I thought that happened awhile ago.

    Like in ’48.

  12. wondering jew on December 17, 2014, 4:18 pm

    The Likud would be best off if they replaced netanyahu, but i agree that the west bank and gaza are israel’s two problems and a mere change to the Likud would not be enough. Yes, the Israel brand is worse off today than at any time and Naftali Bennett has lips that charm his followers, but a manner which alienates the rest of the world. But no, there will not be an open uprising in the next few months.

    • just on December 17, 2014, 4:36 pm

      Conflicted much?

    • seafoid on December 18, 2014, 2:32 am

      I think it’s too early for the people to join the dots so not this election.
      But when the Goetterdaemmerung does come it’s going to be massive.

      “Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to was never there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it.”

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqzPFyeXGEE

  13. ivri on December 17, 2014, 4:23 pm

    It`s true that Israel became more militaristic – you simply get good at what you doing. After so much violence and in so many ways plus a huge industry, of global class, that has grown around that matters have indeed changed. But then similar phenomena can be observed in the US too and the intensive warring in the last decade and half has left similar marks on the US – so the Jews there may not find what changed in Israel so unusual. Besides, the political-support needs of Israel have changed too – early in its life Israel was dependent, politically and financially, on a wall to wall support of American Jews. The situation in this regard has in fact been normalized, characterized by some Jews being with Israel and others being critical of it – as is exactly the case in the broader population. That’s actually good news.

    • DaBakr on December 17, 2014, 5:01 pm

      @ivr
      oh boy, thats not what they want to hear here. can’t wait to see them jump all over you for that assessment. suppose you are one of the “crazies” though, which would easily explain your lack of envisioning the breakdown in Jewsih support for Israel. [ and as for yf? always so apologetic , timid for not “liking” this and that Israeli but still supporting the state? maybe this is where posters on mw get their main impression of wishy-washy ‘liberal’ zionists?

      anyway-a ‘brilliant’ and overly gushing propaganda piece by the ‘masters’ of propaganda that calls Israel out for its own propaganda. and of course its followed by the usual idiots who think things like: working military dogs are “destoyed” after they retire-proving they are just as ignorant about dogs as they are about Diaspora Jews, Israelis, Zionists (except ‘liberal’ ones, of course) and even Muslim Arabs.

      But I can see why they are getting so worked up and excited. lots going on before the big nothing.

      • annie on December 17, 2014, 5:13 pm

        oh man like dabakr, we so – like – get how macho israelis are. mean like macho is so where it’s at man. never having to explain or say i’m sorry cuz yer al so happening. hey, have you seen the new hipster ad from naftali bennet? wow, like so like so cooool

        http://www.newrepublic.com/article/120590/naftali-bennett-hipster-ad-what-it-really-mocks

        can’t wait to see them jump all over you for that assessment.

        zzzzz

      • DaBakr on December 17, 2014, 10:25 pm

        yes. seen Bennets ‘hip’ ads. He bases his style on standard US campaign managment 101. He knows how to appeal to his base and draw in other fence-sitters as well. not surprising. Can he lead though-or just campaign? Thats a question I can not answer. The election is going to come down to 2 things- status quo-or taking a chance ( and by chance I mean both with the territory and the economy) and which is perceived by majority as more or less ‘security’ minded. The economy is a bigger driving force then the conflict, imo.

        Sorry I just don’t see this ‘heavenly’ traumatic split coming down the pike that pw sees.

        And as for your view that the likes of the Adelsens and other deep pocket types will be the sole sources responsible for funding Isr through the US congress I would point out that the big 3bill in loan guarantees for military are a huge source of income generators for the US military contractors that would not take losing out very lightly. The last I checked the owners of the big US military/Indust corps are not so many Jews. (your implication that only rich Jewish and Zionist billionaires would keep Israel afloat-especially when the 3bill only reps a tiny % of gdp (and I for one favour ending a large proportion of US military loan guarantees.)

        And the snarky attitude about machismo? No denying Israel is a macho culture. It is that. The woman are as macho as the men. Its not always the greatest aspect but it is what it is. If you don’t like it? You probably wouldn’t like Israel very much. Or South America. Or Spain, or ………

        I see the photo as nothing more then a reference to an ancient source of military inspiration. no different-imo- then the US celebrating Washingtons Delaware crossing at xmas or the Arabs celebrating their own old military victories with current PR tie-ins. But I am not surprised that the usual folks here go ballistic at a pretty tame photo* [Yes. The dogs are muzzled as per regulations and part of their training. In fact-the guy on the left -the Malanois, not the soldier looks pretty dam friendly looking up at Bibi.

      • annie on December 18, 2014, 4:24 am

        I would point out that the big 3bill in loan guarantees for military are a huge source of income generators for the US military contractors that would not take losing out very lightly. The last I checked the owners of the big US military/Indust corps are not so many Jews. (your implication that only rich Jewish and Zionist billionaires would keep Israel afloat-especially when the 3bill only reps a tiny % of gdp (and I for one favour ending a large proportion of US military loan guarantees.) – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2014/12/israel-american-crazies/comment-page-1#comment-730673

        oh wow. that’s just what this country needs, dumping more money into military contractors. let me give you a little info that may not ever had occurred to you. those workers for the military contractors? the grunts and their bosses to? maybe they’d like to take a vacation? y’know, it’s our money and we could just hand it over to them without having them have to do anything at all. if we want to give anyone 3 billion, what’s the advantage to us to funneling it thru israel?

        i mean seriously. if i have $100 and i say to you..i will give it to you if you spend it hiring my son. so the son works for the day and you give him the $100. and then you run an ad in the paper and say wow, i generated all this money for your family!! how much brains does it take to figure out i could just give the friggin money to my son and let him take the day off? especially given the fact that the way i got the money in the first place is because my son worked for it?

        you get what i am saying? this is our tax dollars, we work for it. and we give it to big daddy feds and they give it to you and you hire the same friggin people who worked for it to begin with.

        so frankly, wrt the US military contractors that would not take losing out very lightly. , they wouldn’t be losing a GD thing if the feds just gave them the money instead of giving it to you.

        do you think we’re stupid?

        and wrt to my so called “implication” according to you wrt “Jewish and Zionist billionaires” . there’s a hella lot more money being shoveled to israel out of this country besides that 3 bill. that 3 bill is from our taxes, lots of poor people’s taxes. whereas the american “Zionist billionaires” who keep Israel afloat-especially when the 3bill only reps a tiny % of gdp – that money rips off the american people because when they shovel money to the idf or illegal settlements they do it thru tax deductible foundations so it actually BYPASSES the feds. the money building those settlements is a lot more than the 3 bill, and yes, americans are paying thru the teeth with their hard earned cash who pay taxes.

        ps, i know very well it’s not only “Zionist billionaires” who keep Israel afloat. israel is afloat because it steals land and resources, because it has a captive market under occupation that israel shovels all it’s surplus to. 1/2 the population lives on 1/10th the water that israel steals from it and sells back too them, and the list goes on and on and on.

        not only that, when israel slaughters thousand people and destroys whole neighborhood in one of it’s ritual genocidal sadistic lawn mowings and the global community donates billions to rebuild it israel demands all that money goes thru them and reaps the profit off of every single badge of cement. so we are well aware here how israel keeps afloat. israel profits from slaughtering people. we know ok? we get it.

        and bds is going to be putting a little damper on that. ;) the little macho macho man wimp who lives off death and theft, that party gonna crash one of these days.

    • annie on December 17, 2014, 5:25 pm

      Besides, the political-support needs of Israel have changed too – early in its life Israel was dependent, politically and financially, on a wall to wall support of American Jews. The situation in this regard has in fact been normalized

      i totally agree ivri, in fact israel could still go on being financially dependent with very little jewish american support as long as team adelson and his like kind cohorts in lobby keep all those congress critters on the trough for eternity israel can keep on keepin’ on being dependent on handouts waaaay into the future. they don’t need no stink in’ wimpy leftie support, or the youth either heck no.

      • Mooser on December 17, 2014, 6:28 pm

        “The situation in this regard has in fact been normalized”

        “Ivri” is very, very worried about not being “normalized”. He seems to go around with his fists clenched, muttering ‘I am normalized, I really am! Normalized!’
        I’m always very leery of guys who keep insisting how ‘normal’ they are.

    • Mooser on December 17, 2014, 6:35 pm

      “– you simply get good at what you doing.”

      Ahha! Now I know what explains the birth-rate!

    • seafoid on December 18, 2014, 2:37 am

      “It`s true that Israel became more militaristic – you simply get good at what you doing. ”

      That’s what the Cossacks used to say too !

      • Citizen on December 18, 2014, 9:25 am

        Not to mention the Prussian spirit

    • lysias on December 18, 2014, 10:55 am

      It`s true that Israel became more militaristic – you simply get good at what you doing.

      I wouldn’t say the Israelis have gotten good at warmaking. Haven’t all their recent wars amounted to defeats?

      The same thing can be said about the U.S., by the way.

      • RoHa on December 18, 2014, 6:53 pm

        Wandering off topic a bit.

        “Haven’t all their recent wars amounted to defeats?

        The same thing can be said about the U.S., by the way.”

        Matter of definition there.

        The Korean war isn’t over. Just a long ceasefire.

        The US won every major battle in Vietnam. The problem was that the NV wouldn’t give up, and the Americans got fed up, said “bugger this’, and went home. So we can say that the US military wasn’t exactly defeated, just that the US as a whole can’t make the beef stock for pho.

        In Iraq 1, the ostensible objective was to push Iraqi forces out of Kuwait. That was achieved. Can’t see a US defeat there.

        In Iraq 2, the ostensible objectives were to take out Iraqi WMDs and depose Saddam Hussein. The Iraqi forces were defeated, Hussein deposed, and Bush strutted in his posing pouch. The WMDs were not found. (Except for some gas shells with embarrassing US labels.) Not a US defeat, at first. Of course, things fell to pieces afterwards.

        In Afghanistan, the ostensible objective was to overthrow the Taliban government and capture Osama bin Voldemort. Result: Taliban overthrown, sort of, and Osama vanished. Semi-US victory.

        But, as Iraq and Vietnam, the vanquished won’t give up, which rather takes the shine off.

        Somalia: total embarrassment. Let’s not talk about it.

        The invasion of Grenada was a complete US victory. (There was hardly any opposing force to defeat, but never mind that.) It did reveal that the US services did not have compatible communication services, so they had to relay their messages through local civilian channels.

        “And you’re listening to Radio Ganja from Kingston. Oh, we’ve got a call from General Schwarzkopf. He says a big hello to all the guys in the 14th Infantry, and would you all please move at once to map reference G58. And while you are doing that, he’s asked me to play for you Bob Marley’s ‘Stir it up’.”

        All in all, a bit of a mixture of success and failure for the US.

    • eljay on December 18, 2014, 11:27 am

      >> ivreee: It`s true that Israel became more militaristic – you simply get good at what you doing.

      The “Jewish State” of Israel should have spent:
      – more time doing – and becoming good at – justice, accountability and equality; and
      – less time doing – and becoming good at – such things as theft, occupation, colonialism, oppression, torture and murder.

      I guess this is what happens when one looks to Saudi Arabia, Mali and African “hell-holes” for moral inspiration.

  14. JLewisDickerson on December 17, 2014, 4:27 pm

    RE: “Even Sharon had his charms.” ~ Weiss

    SEE: “Ariel Sharon’s fascinating appetite”, by Matt Rees, Salon.com, October 22, 2011
    In my years reporting on the Middle East, I witnessed his bizarre relationship with food — and the story behind it

    “. . . I continued to write about [Ariel] Sharon during the intifada. . . On the way, I happened across still more food lore about him. He had a penchant for barbecued turkey testicles. . .”

    SOURCE – http://www.salon.com/2011/10/22/ariel_sharons_fascinating_appetite/

  15. Robert Mason on December 17, 2014, 4:34 pm

    You folks are not on board with BB. That is plain to see. You criticize the Right Wing and emply that Jews in America are all Blue in the Face progressives? Some of you are, but a large number of Jews in America and Israel see the American Progressive Left as an enemy of Israel, as they should. The bloom on the Far left agenda has wilted alliances with Jews and many as should be.
    Maybe BB was out supporting the troops. WOW, what a concept. War in the middle east, all around Israel is Real and those strong in heart guard Israel, do the heavy lifting where as many on this site would chose to sit on the kubutz and Wish everyone got along.
    BB is a leader of few peers. He’s given his all to Israel and without His strong leadership, the jewish state would be in serious trouble, like America, as we’re being led by an absolute Idiot and Marxist.
    As for the Dogs. They too are keeping Israel safe and the muzzles have a purpose. Thank God for those men of War and those dogs. My Dobermans feel their kinship, as I do with my Strong brothers in Israel.

    • annie on December 17, 2014, 5:04 pm

      Israel is Real and those strong in heart guard Israel, do the heavy lifting

    • just on December 17, 2014, 5:15 pm

      ugh.

      • RoHa on December 17, 2014, 9:24 pm

        Ugh indeed. I avert my eyes from my son’s schoolbag.

    • Mooser on December 17, 2014, 6:11 pm

      Thank God for those men of War and those dogs. My Dobermans feel their kinship, as I do with my Strong brothers in Israel”

      A groyser tzuleyger! Patsh zich in tuchis und schrei “hooray” “My Doberman’s”? Oh Lord quel macher!! Mason, I’m sure you’ll never leave your dog’s behind.

    • Mooser on December 17, 2014, 6:53 pm

      ” Some of you are, but a large number of Jews in America and Israel see the American Progressive Left as an enemy of Israel, as they should.”

      Jeez, that sentence doesn’t make sense as many ways as it’s offensive!

    • Marnie on December 18, 2014, 2:27 am

      Waxing lovingly and poetically about the Dogs and those men of War and those dogs and your Dobermans and your Strong brothers in Israel makes me nauseous. Your strong brothers are chickenshit assholes that shoot everything in site because they’re too young, stupid and impulsive to be carrying around those weapons that are as tall as they are. Nothing like over-compensating. Are you proud of that little pipsqueak searching that tiny little girl’s backpack? Nevermind, the answer is most likely a resounding Ken!

      • Robert Mason on December 18, 2014, 1:36 pm

        Marnie, those men and dogs keep Israeli’s alive. You may not think them necessary but in the cold night when you’re tucked in bed, those men and dogs protect you. War, men battling each other is as old as Time itself. It will never change and Israelis live under constant threat of annihilation. Arabs surround Israel and unless you can swim great distances, these people, those dogs, LOVE THEM ALL, are the only thing between you and a greasy spot on the road.

      • eljay on December 18, 2014, 2:04 pm

        >> Robert Masoneee: … those men and dogs keep Israeli’s alive.

        Those men and dogs help to keep alive:
        – Jewish supremacism in a supremacist “Jewish State” of Israel;
        – Israel’s 60+ years, ON-GOING and offensive (i.e., not defensive) campaign of aggression, oppression, theft, colonization, destruction, torture and murder.

        What those men and dogs are not keeping alive are justice, accountability and equality.

      • lysias on December 18, 2014, 2:26 pm

        Marnie, those men and dogs keep Israeli’s alive.

        I’m reminded of what the German radio said about the Wehrmacht soldiers who died at Stalingrad: Sie fielen, damit Deutschland lebe (“They fell, so that Germany might live.”)

      • Mooser on December 19, 2014, 12:47 pm

        “Marnie, those men and dogs keep Israeli’s alive.”

        Man, I don’t even want to think about the implcations of that sentence.
        What is it the “men and dogs” do to keep Israel “alive”?
        Hmmm, maybe I’d rather not know.

    • a blah chick on December 18, 2014, 10:19 am

      I think it’s rather telling about the current state of hasbara arguments when you read a comment and can’t figure out if it’s sincere or a parody.

      • annie on December 18, 2014, 2:01 pm

        seriously bc, it’s beyond me – i couldn’t make this stuff up. i don’t even think colbert or stewart or letterman could say it any better:

        in the cold night when you’re tucked in bed, those men and dogs protect you

        it reads like a bedtime story, perfect for a late night / SNL.

      • Marnie on December 19, 2014, 1:51 am

        LOL!! But it’s more truthful to say “those men-like dogs”.

        I’m sure throughout history many a “Robert Mason” has tried to console his horrified family/friend/colleague, etc., that the army is protecting them while they sleep. I know I’m protected while I sleep by God and not some dipshit in a K-Mart special uniform with “born to kill” tattooed on his hairless chest.

      • Mooser on December 19, 2014, 12:52 pm

        “I know I’m protected while I sleep”

        I know that God protects drunkards, idiots, and the mad. So I feel like I’m sleeping in triple-steel-walls vault every night!

    • ckg on December 18, 2014, 7:34 pm

      BB is a leader of few peers.

      Yes, Robert Mason. That is plain to see. Every day BB seems to be leading fewer and fewer of his peers from the now-dissolved Knesset. The bloom on his agenda has wilted alliances with Knesset Jews and many as should be. Maybe BB was out supporting his own re-election. WOW, what a concept. He’s given his all to his re-election, and even with his leadership you will be led by an absolute Idiot and Ayn Randian. As for the Dogs, you feel kinship with Dobermans. That is plain to see.

      • Marnie on December 20, 2014, 4:33 am

        Mooser –
        “I know I’m protected while I sleep.”
        I’m not alone or special, it’s the way it is, to me. Is that something to ridicule? That’s your freedom.

      • Mooser on December 22, 2014, 1:14 pm

        “That’s your freedom.”

        The freedom to ridicule myself? Yup, I got that, and nobody will take it away from me.

  16. JLewisDickerson on December 17, 2014, 4:51 pm

    RE: “Allison Deger was first to spot the Netanyahu speech; she likened it to a Miley Cyrus video.” ~ Weiss

    MY COMMENT: It reminds me of Norma Desmond being ready for Cecil B. DeMille’s ‘close up’!

  17. JLewisDickerson on December 17, 2014, 4:51 pm

  18. justicewillprevail on December 17, 2014, 5:35 pm

    This is beyond belief, or satire, come to that. What deluded fantasy world do these people live in that they think there is anything remotely acceptable enough about this image to justify promoting it? Utterly ludicrous. Like a tenth rate despot of a backwater country, the leader apparently keeps company with masked gunmen and killer dogs, which he thinks is really, really macho, despite the fact that he looks like a man desperately trying to placate a vicious dog who is too near his nuts for comfort. He could be a prisoner in this shot. But what a new low as an image for the ‘western democracy’ this is, just ludicrous and incredibly revealing of a psychologically inadequate man desperately wanting to appear like a tough guy – and of course betraying himself as a pathetically weak wannabe dictator. The lack of self-awareness is stunning. Are all the mirrors in Israel crazy mirrors which reflect back the fantasies of the subject?

    • Mooser on December 17, 2014, 6:40 pm

      “This is beyond belief, or satire, come to that.”

      Yup, absolutely amazing. The headline says: “Israel will lose all American Jews but the crazies”, and right on schedule the crazies show up and go into their act.

      • Citizen on December 18, 2014, 9:59 am

        Is there a word for “irony” in hebrew? And if there is, don’t they teach it in Israel?

  19. justicewillprevail on December 17, 2014, 6:46 pm

    And yeah, the ‘most moral army in the world’ apparently has no ethical problem with releasing killer dogs against unarmed Palestinian civilians who will have no recourse to justice. Nice morals. Nice advertising of them.

  20. amigo on December 17, 2014, 6:58 pm

    You have got to read this from nuttyahoo.

    ““Too many in Europe are calling on Israel to make concessions that would endanger not only the security of Israel, but also – paradoxically – the security of Europe,” he said.

    “Because Israel is the forward position of European civilization.

    Israel is the bulwark of European values. Israel is the pluralist, vibrant, multi-party democracy.”

    Israel, he said, “is an embattled democracy in a region plagued by totalitarianism, tyranny, and”

    Read more at!!.

    http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Israel-severely-rebuked-internationally-as-PM-warns-spirit-of-appeasement-blowing-through-Europe-385001

    The man is certifiably insane.On the one hand he calls us Jew haters and antisemites who want to destroy Israel and OTOH he refers to Israel being the bulwark of European Values.

    • eljay on December 17, 2014, 7:21 pm

      >> amigo: On the one hand he calls us Jew haters and antisemites who want to destroy Israel and OTOH he refers to Israel being the bulwark of European Values.

      So…essentially, Israel prides itself on being like Europe and hating Jews. Does that make it anti-Semitic or self-loathing or both?

      — Edit —
      I just noticed that the Edit function has returned. Thanks, Mondoweiss! :-)

  21. RoHa on December 17, 2014, 7:31 pm

    Whoopee! An edit button!

    • Mooser on December 19, 2014, 12:55 pm

      In pretost of how long it take to get the eidt botton, I refsue to user it!

      • Bumblebye on December 19, 2014, 3:16 pm

        I wonder if Shingo’s Fingers will suffer a relapse now the edit function’s back?
        He’s had waaaay fewer yptos without the button than he used to have with! There ‘s been hardly any challenge to reading ’em!

  22. just on December 17, 2014, 9:27 pm

    Poor dogs. They were most certainly meant for happier times and better things.

    Festival of lights gone dark.

    (Thank you for the edit button~ it’s a real treasure heaped upon the treasure of MW!)

  23. Xpat on December 17, 2014, 10:47 pm

    Netanyahu posted this pic because he liked that the dog he just met relates to him as the leader, rather than to his trainer, the soldier. You gotta admit, it’s flattering to be instantly identified as top dog.

  24. CigarGod on December 18, 2014, 10:26 am

    What a gift!
    A photo from the palestinian ghetto.
    Im sure i can google up a similar one from the warsaw ghetto.
    A matching set for the holidays…might look nice on my fireplace mantle.

  25. Abu Malia on December 18, 2014, 11:42 am

    “Or who knows, maybe that dog is as friendly as all get-out, a real family pet, not an attack dog, so they put the muzzle on him for effect. Who knows with them? ”

    Based on the overt showboatism evident in the picture, indeed, “who knows with them”. The pooches might just be for effects.

    1- Notice the M4 with all the bells and whistles – i mean the optics, lasers and flash light attachments seems to be saying we see you through out the electromagnetic spectrum, from visible light to gamma rays. Whatever happened to the Galil?( mostly copied soviet and Czech designs it was).

    2- What soldier on his own base attaches double magazines to his rifle? ( well, why, ammo should be plentiful around and plenty of fighting positions to take cover, a soldier defending a base is most likely literally sitting next to boxes of it). At any rate, the technique is for guys wearing no magazine pouches or lack training – drill those two until they can change a magazine before you can yell Anbesol.

    The masked troopers don’t look too scary either. They look like a couple of very “scare-able” twenty somethings, love to see them engaged in “non-arms length combat ” with Hizbullah vets – the true peshmergas.

    ok maybe the knee pads are for prayers – I’ won’t say anything about them!

  26. Alvin Alexsi Currier on December 18, 2014, 3:26 pm

    I was walking along thinking that the old saying was about rats leaving a sinking ship, but then I stopped and chuckled as I said to myself: No now it is the crew and passengers fleeing the sinking ship and leaving it to the rats.

  27. OyVey00 on December 18, 2014, 9:48 pm

    Most American Jews are crazy about Israel though. As long as they don’t stop seeing themselves as that special snowflake of history who gets perpetually victimized and can’t do anything wrong, nothing will change.

  28. Pixel on December 19, 2014, 6:29 am

    I see two dogs, two soldiers, and a very small man in the middle.

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