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The plans by the Israeli Prime Minister to address both Houses of Congress in March in order to rebut the President’s call for negotiations with Iran is finally drawing the outrage it deserves. It was condemned in the last day by The New York Times, leading pundits, liberal Zionist organizations, and implicitly, in the Israeli press. Some fear that the speech could lead to war– Chris Matthews, Susan Milligan, Jonathan Capehart and the New York Times express this fear.

More parochial voices worry that it could divide the Israel lobby, the monolithic coalition that supports Israel inside American politics, or blow up Israel’s influence in the United States.

First, some of the juicy bits. Haaretz says the White House is angry; Netanyahu “spat” in Obama’s face by accepting the invitation from the Republican leadership. Times of Israel:

The White House’s outrage over Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s plan to speak before Congress in March — a move he failed to coordinate with the administration — began to seep through the diplomatic cracks on Friday, with officials telling Haaretz the Israeli leader had “spat” in President Barack Obama’s face.

“We thought we’ve seen everything,” the newspaper quoted an unnamed senior US official as saying. “But Bibi managed to surprise even us.

“There are things you simply don’t do. He spat in our face publicly and that’s no way to behave. Netanyahu ought to remember that President Obama has a year and a half left to his presidency, and that there will be a price,” he said.

So Israel will suffer. Other unnamed US officials:

“It will be difficult to trust Netanyahu in the future,” unnamed senior US officials told [Israel’s] Channel 2. “At a critical juncture that requires close cooperation on strategic matters, he preferred to advance his political interests while disrupting the correct working relationship” between the two governments.

On Chris Matthews’ MSNBC show Hardball last night, Susan Milligan of US News & World Report said that the Republicans are trying to submarine Obama’s negotiations with Iran. Matthews agreed, and said that the effect of the maneuver would be to force the “worst case scenario,” in which Iran develops nuclear weapons:

Matthews: [Republicans] don’t care if the talks completely break down… Then we’re faced with the two terrible options. The one I know we’re going to have to do, which is blow them up–

Milligan: Right.

Matthews: And that means a war. And we’ll have to do it at some point, if we go that course. Because no president can get reelected– elected in this country, who doesn’t deal with a nuclear weapon in the hands of the Iranians. That’s a fact.

Jonathan Capehart of the Washington Post: And if that happens, the American people need to understand who’s responsible for the president… having to make that decision.

I think Matthews is wrong about this, that if a nuclear weapon is a real eventuality (though many experts say that Iran has not sought to develop a nuclear weapon), and the issue were actually framed for the American people, they’d support containment of Iran. But of course that choice won’t be framed. It will be the subject of lobby pressure, out of sight. Which Matthews actually acknowledges when he says there is no choice in the matter.

The New York Times editorializes, and, like Matthews, warns that Congress is “playing politics on Iran” in a “hostile” manner; and this could lead to war.

A move by Congress to pass legislation proposing new sanctions could blow up the talks and divide the major powers that have been united in pressuring Iran. Given an excuse to withdraw from talks, Iran could accelerate its nuclear program, curbed for a year under an interim agreement, and force the United States or Israel to use military action or a cyberattack to keep Tehran from producing nuclear weapons.

The Times can’t say a straight word about the lobby. All hinting:

Domestic politics are also at work. Republicans apparently see value in trying to sabotage any possible success for Mr. Obama, even if it harms American interests.

Yes and when do domestic politics harm US interests? Why isn’t that a huge scandal to be investigated? That’s more dangerous than the gun lobby, you’d think.

The Times says that Netanyahu is taking a great risk with the US coalition that supports Israel. Secretary of State John Kerry just went to bat for him against the Palestinians.

Even Mr. Kerry, who recently called almost 50 world leaders in an effort to block the Palestinians’ attempt to join the International Criminal Court, is losing patience with Mr. Netanyahu’s decision to “play politics,” according to his aides. Can Mr. Netanyahu really afford to dismiss such allies?

He called 50 leaders! Wow.

E.J. Dionne is also shocked by the political effrontery, speaking on National Public Radio:

Bibi’s coming to speak against the president’s policy. There’s no easy analogy because Israel has a particular place in the hearts of a lot of Americans, but I was thinking gosh, if the Democrats had invited Jacques Chirac to address Congress about the Iraq war – in other words, this is somebody who opposes President Obama’s policy. I don’t think there’s any precedent for this. The White House is clearly furious.

My own analogy: inviting Vladimir Putin to come speak against the Cuba opening.

On the same radio segment, David Brooks expressed the fear that this bold move will fracture the Israel lobby.

I guess I don’t blame Boehner for inviting him. I’d certainly blame Bibi for accepting. It’s just stupid. It’s not good for two countries – it’s bad for them to be feuding in public. It’s really bad when you do it on the soil of one of the two countries.

Brooks, who has said he’s “gooey-eyed” over Israel and whose son now serves in the Israeli military, also said “Bibi’s a better speaker” than Obama. I wonder how that’s going to go down in the next Obama off-the-record meeting with columnists; this is the kind of thing that stings the president’s pride.

For another thing, Brooks, Dionne, David Corn and Jeremy Ben-Ami of J Street all refer to the Israeli prime minister in their commentaries as “Bibi.” Ben-Ami refers to the two leaders as “Bibi and Obama.” Bibi is an affectionate name for a rightwing militant occupying leader who coordinated a massacre last summer. James North deplored this long ago.

Corn said on Hardball that Netanyahu is the loser in the deal. By accepting John Boehner’s “nearly traitorous invitation to speak,” he is alienating the White House, which will have a lot of power over policy in two years.

You don’t go after the king unless you can kill the king….

There is no reason for him to tick the president off.

By the way, if you can call Boehner “nearly traitorous,” why not say that the Israel lobby has dual loyalty? Oh, because Boehner is a Republican, and the lobby is part of the blue state establishment.

J Street and Peace Now are all fearful of dividing the Israel lobby. Both liberal Zionist orgs call for Congress to delay the speech. Peace Now says “the timing of the invitation and its manner are outrageous. They are inappropriate and irresponsible.”

Americans for Peace Now (APN) calls on Speaker of the House of Representatives John Boehner (R-Ohio) to re-issue his invitation for the prime minister of Israel to address Congress for a later date, after the deadline for negotiations with Iran over its nuclear program, and following the elections in Israel, after a new government coalition is formed. Peace Now is worried that the move is “divisive”; Americans will start debating our support for Israel:

this move uses Israel, yet again, as a wedge issue in internal American politics. Speaker Boehner’s invitation – both its timing and manner – is therefore a disservice to US national security interests and to Israel’s.

J Street has a similar message, that this “shocking stunt” will divide the Israel lobby: “Making Israel a partisan issue weakens the US-Israel relationship.” Boo hoo. Though to its credit, J Street emphasizes the U.S. policy piece: the speech could derail ongoing negotiations with Iran. Jeremy Ben-Ami writes:

Traditionally, the executive branch — President Obama — leads on foreign policy. Boehner inviting a foreign leader, even a close ally, without even a simple “heads-up” to the president or his Democratic counterparts is a serious breach of standards.

This invitation looks like a thinly-veiled attempt to scuttle the critical negotiations taking place right now aimed at ensuring that Iran never acquires a nuclear weapon. Bibi and Obama disagree on how to deal with Iran, and that’s fair. But a foreign leader lobbying Congress (from the same spot where the President delivered his State of the Union address just days ago!) is inappropriate.

Bibi and Obama.

But of course the neoconservatives are happy; they want our Iran policy scuttled by a foreign leader. So we are beginning to see open division between Zionists in the Establishment. Here is Bill Kristol trashing Chuck Schumer for not being a “shomer” or guardian of Israel in Hebrew (a role that Schumer has bragged he has because of his name). Kristol:

 Schumer no Shomer? @SenSchumer, co-sponsor in 2014 of Kirk-Menendez when it had no chance of coming to floor, is reportedly now opposed.

Rosie Gray says that’s not true, Schumer is for sanctions:

Schumer’s office says it’s not true and that he “intends to cosponsor the bill”

That makes neoconservatives happy, but Ali Gharib says Schumer makes two Dems, presumably along with Robert Menendez.

Neocons upping the ante. Here is a rightwing publication saying that former White House officials, including two who worked under Obama, say that the president is not tough enough on Iran. This means war, huh? To be continued.

Update: More outrage in the US press. In the Boston Globe, Michael Cohen writes that Netanyahu has damaged his own agenda, of sanctioning Iran, with this bumptious move:

First, you can pretty much put a fork in Iran sanctions legislation. With Republicans controlling Congress, the bill will likely be passed, but the possibility of a congressional override of an almost certain presidential veto seems remote. Democrats were already wavering about the possibility of going against their president, but now that Netanyahu and Boehner have nakedly politicized the issue, it will give Democrats even more reason to stick with Obama. … This latest action will only increase the partisan divide, and weaken Democratic support for Israel under Netanyahu’s leadership.

And that frayed American support will hurt Netanyahu’s hopes for remaining prime minister:

From all appearances, Israelis are increasingly concerned that the US-Israel bilateral relationship is in crisis — and they believe that Netanyahu is partly responsible. Undermining that relationship only weeks before a national election may have the perverse effect of reminding Israelis why another term for Netanyahu could be so dangerous for the country.


Chris Wallace on Fox calls the deal “wicked,” done behind John Kerry’s back:

“For him [Netanyahu] to come here, to ignore the president, to not even let him know he was coming, to sneak in, to come to talk to Congress with the president’s opponents,” Wallace says– that’s a shocking violation of protocol.”

And anchor Shepard Smith brings up the endless expansion of the settlements. Good: now the settlements are in play!


Thanks to Jeff Klein.



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147 Responses

  1. MRW on January 24, 2015, 11:02 am

    Taxi, looks like you were right.

    • Krauss on January 25, 2015, 4:34 pm

      In what was he right?

      BTW, Phil, in what way can Obama harm Netanyahu? There are no elections left, Hillary’s waiting in the wings. Netanyahu is many things but not politically stupid. He wouldn’t have done this unless he left safe enough to do it. It’s also a power demonstration, in a sense, of who is boss.

      He is showing Obama to be weak in a very public and humiliating way. All these threats from “senior administration officials” amount to nothing. What can Obama actually do? There’s nothing. He can’t apply any diplomatic and economic pressure, because the lobby would go nuts. His own Secretary of State has lobbied hard on behalf of him, even after being humiliated in 2013/2014 by the same guy.

      People can get all “outraged” as they want, but you get the sense that it is a lot of kabuki theater. If anything, the lobby is becomming more brazen and bold. Just look at how Saban and Adelson are openly joking with each other of taking over the NYT, of how they dominate each political party in America.

      In such a climate, Netanyahu’s moves are not exactly coming out of the blue, so excuse me for being cynical and acidic about these so-called “outraged” columnists who are in every bit on the current climate but never fail not to speak out otherwise.

      • Blownaway on January 26, 2015, 9:37 am

        Your right all weekend Obama’s in the record boys have been making soothing noises
        “White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough appeared to downplay the tensions between the White House and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday, insisting that the US relationship with Israel was “many-faceted, deep and abiding.”

        Read more: White House downplays impact of Netanyahu speech on ties | The Times of Israel
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  2. aiman on January 24, 2015, 11:25 am

    With all the browbeating against Islam, Iran etc. there’s something people don’t understand though the hasbara brigade will have you believe otherwise. The fact is that traditional states like Iran will be among the last in the world to think of using nuclear weapons. Even secular, liberal western states will use them before Iran; I’m afraid the real tragedy will happen with Israel killing millions of Iranians. If there is world war 3, it will be lit by Zionist paranoia.

    The most dangerous and immoral States in the Middle East are ISIL and JSIL. ISIL in its prior reincarnation as the “rebels” already used chemical weapons in Syria supplied by Bandar and the propaganda was planted by the hasbara brigade that it was Asad. The world should concentrate on taking out these two lunatic states, ISIL and JSIL, before their psychopathy erupts into nuclear genocide.

    • just on January 24, 2015, 11:35 am

      You are correct, aiman.

      JSIL is helping ISIL. Not so strange bedfellows at all. Same goals?

      As for Matthews, the NYT, Kristol, Brooks, et al~ I don’t believe/trust/really listen to them~ they were wrong before, and they’re likely wrong now. Neither Bush nor Hillary are in the WH, Obama is.

      • aiman on January 24, 2015, 12:13 pm

        Thanks just. Same amoral goals in quest for purity and built on lies, both helping each other out.

      • annie on January 24, 2015, 12:49 pm

        i agree. and it’s never occurred to me iran would use a nuclear weapon. it’s strikes me as completely illogical given their history.

      • RockyMissouri on January 26, 2015, 10:45 am


    • Walid on January 24, 2015, 11:39 am

      Aiman, are you giving Assad a clean bill of health?

      • aiman on January 24, 2015, 12:26 pm

        Walid, no. I have opposed the Syrian “rebels” since their propaganda began circulating in Muslim circles. I don’t see Assad as a monster any more than I see any of the other autocrats in the region. I was shocked by the Hitlerian propaganda posters designed no doubt by Saudi or hasbara pr teams. Btw, I’m not a Shia or Sunni for that matter. I believe these are nationalism labels. I’m convinced that only a non-sectarian, egalitarian, human rights based Middle East will be able to offset foreign interference or at least a Middle East that is not run out of Saudi Arabia or Israel. What has produced the chaos is the matrix of imperialism, autocrats and Saudi support for Takfiris everywhere. Assad is part of the problem but not the only problem and less of a problem than ISIL or JSIL. When the situation has evolved to a state of peace and calm it is up to civic society not militant Takfiri thugs to decide who runs Syria. It’ll be interesting what shape Saudi Arabia takes in the next couple of months.

      • Walid on January 24, 2015, 4:46 pm

        Thanks for your reply, Aiman, I was never much of a fan of either the “rebels” or of the regime.

      • Shingo on January 24, 2015, 6:50 pm

        Thanks for your reply, Aiman, I was never much of a fan of either the “rebels” or of the regime.

        Sure but Assad is the least worst choice if one has to chose. Even after the initial crackdown, Assad agreed to introduce reforms but by then the opposition movement had been hijacked by the usual suspects a la Lybia.

    • Theo on January 24, 2015, 2:03 pm

      “The fact is that traditional states like Iran will be among the last ……. using nuclear weapons”!

      How true! Iran is an old cultural state, going back nearly 3,000 years, and they did not attack another state during the past 200 years! Which other state can make the same statement, certainly none of the western world.

      Let them have a nuclear weapon or two, what will happen? To the north there is Russia, to the east Pakistan and India, south Israel and to the west GB, France and the USA, all having untold numbers of them. Who in his right mind would expect that Iran ever starts a nuclear conflict and face such an opposition? Noone, outside Netanyahu and a few of his cronies.
      The zionists are not really afraid of Iran using nuclear weapons, but they know that in such a case their freedom of willfully attacking arab or/oder muslim nations will come to an end, as Iran will not stand for it. Suddenly the zionist nuclear blackmail of the Samson project would lose all its angst, as both parties know that in a nuclear conflict there are no winners. Israel is small, two or three such missiles can wipe out the whole population, Iran is large and have a much better chance to survive such attacks.

      I say no state can tell another state what can they have and what not! None of the present nuclear nations have asked anyone´s permission to arm themselves, not even Israel, so we just have to let the leaders of Iran decide what they want. Nuclear weapons guaranteed an unprecedented length of peace in Europe and in the far east, perhaps that is what we need to bring peace to the ME.
      I may be wrong, nuclear proliferation means there is an increasing chance of an accidental start of war with such weapons, however we just cannot dictate our will forever to the largest power in the ME.

    • Bumblebye on January 24, 2015, 6:58 pm

      Could there be a JISIL in the offing? This is weird:

      • Bornajoo on January 24, 2015, 7:03 pm

        This is too far fetched, even for me! But who really knows what the bigger game really is?

        (can’t get the Soap theme out of my head since yesterday. Your fault!)

      • just on January 24, 2015, 7:13 pm

        Weird, alright.

        (Space for a base?)

      • Bumblebye on January 24, 2015, 7:29 pm

        Not my fault – the article triggered the tune! Tis a bit earworm-y though.
        Press tv isn’t the most reliable, and there were no links…..

      • Walid on January 25, 2015, 2:07 am

        Soap was my favourite, used to wait all week for it; no other comedy program has made me laugh as much since then.

  3. Blownaway on January 24, 2015, 11:56 am

    A good gauge of how hot this is for me is if any of my friends who are not so politically attuned bring this up. So far zilch. I hope it gets more mainstream play and doesn’t die down. When the average joe is aware we will see real backlash.

    • CloakAndDagger on January 24, 2015, 2:11 pm

      @ Blownaway

      Believe it or not, things are changing and I expect that you will hear from your friends soon.

      2015 is of to a much better start than I had anticipated, so much so, that I am going to put aside my usual pessimistic outlook and actually dare to dream that we have reached the tipping point. It started with the zionists having to play a mostly defensive strategy as their PR campaigns started to fail with amazing rapidity and with the American public is starting to become aware of how Israel is bad for us. At a Safeway grocery store here in San Francisco, I was surprised by the deep discussion that the checkout lady got into with me and how she was so informed about what was happening in the ME (I did point her to MW before leaving). Granted that she is a student working there part-time, but I have rarely had this open a discussion about Israel in public before.
      Moreover, San Francisco is not the typical US city.

      I am going to stick my neck out and predict that the US-Israel relationship will fracture irreparably within the next two years before Obama is out of office, not necessarily because him, but because of the dynamics in play during this time.

      Stock up on popcorn as 2015 promises to be a blockbuster.

      • Pixel on January 24, 2015, 4:35 pm

        @ C&D

        “Stock up on popcorn as 2015 promises to be a blockbuster”.

        Ha! GREAT line!


        In the US, no self-respecting male over the age of 6 would allow anyone to call him by a silly nickname. It’s baby talk used only by a bubby as she pinches your cheeks decade after decade as you stand there, mortified.

        It’s use is disrespectful, disempowering, and ridiculous. Who can take anyone seriously that goes by a baby name?

        However, I may be totally wrong, given that so many other world leaders are as commonly referred to by their nicknames, by each other and the global community .

        Xi Jinping: PingPing
        Barak Obama: BaBa
        David Cameron: RonRon
        Angela Merkel: Gigi
        Queen Elizabeth: QQ
        Vladamir Putin: PuttPutt
        Andrei Kobyakov: KoKo
        François Hollande: DeeDee
        Enrique Peña Nieto: NiNi
        Daniel Ortega: GaGa
        Stephen Harper: HaHa

        Yup, I’ve got to be wrong on that one.

      • Blownaway on January 24, 2015, 5:57 pm

        I sure hope so. Even faux news was outraged by Netanyahu/Boehner shenanigans. Netanyahu is doubling down looking to add that crazy Caroline Glick to his ticket…your right this might be fun to watch the implosion

      • JWalters on January 24, 2015, 6:09 pm

        Cloak, I share your optimism. The ONLY reason Netanyahu will be addressing Congress is because his financial backers have bought the tickets for the entire audience.

        Naturally, there will be a lot of standing ovations.

    • Marnie on January 25, 2015, 2:57 pm

      “When the average joe is aware we will see real backlash.”

      Sure hope so! It was interesting watching the exchange between Chris Wallace and Shep Smith and Smith’s remark something like “they (the israelis) must think we’re really stupid” and I thought I actually could see the lightbulb going on over his head, but then he seemed to lose steam or got bored? I don’t know which one it was, but only hope that enough people watched that and maybe had a Shep Smith moment too and they are starting to seriously question just what is this “special relationship” all about anyway? Netanyahu is only interested in his own political career and doesn’t have any problem playing with the extreme right to embarass the president. I’m actually now hoping that Netanyahu goes through with it so the world can see this carnival huckster work the crowd of adoring traitors. However, he’s playing a very dangerous game with Iran, which I don’t believe either would be suicidal enough to obtain nuclear weapons and use them. I have no doubt that Israel would not hesitate to use nuclear weapons and the US, well they did it twice already, right?

  4. ramzijaber on January 24, 2015, 11:58 am

    In a past post, I said AIPAC replaced Iowa. I was naive. AIPAC actually replaced POTUS.

    Shame on USA.

    • CloakAndDagger on January 24, 2015, 2:09 pm

      Don’t give up on us yet, Ramzi. We are just waking up.

      • Tjoe on January 26, 2015, 9:56 am

        “Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them “(Ephesians 5:11).

        “There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way to death” (Proverbs 16:25)

        Israel/Judea understands how to engineer the latter and Christianity is waking to the former

  5. David Doppler on January 24, 2015, 12:04 pm

    Brooks and Shields addressed the issue on Newshour, both critical, with Brooks leading off, saying both parties do it – e.g., Pelosi visiting Syria – and blaming Boehner for the invitation, and separately Netanyahu for accepting it: unwise by Boehner to try to speak with two voices on foreign policy, unwise on Netanyahu’s part to pick a fight with the president. Then Shields flayed him:

    This is — this is not done. What John Boehner did is a cheap political trick. And it was not a surprise to Benjamin Netanyahu. I mean, Ron Dermer, the… ambassador to the United States from Israel, who had been a Republican political consultant in this country working with Frank Luntz, orchestrated this invitation.
    And it’s a major plus for Mr. Netanyahu on — two weeks before his election…
    it’s beyond irresponsible. It’s beyond a cheap political trick. It’s just tawdry.
    I don’t think — respect I have to for David, I don’t think it compares with Nancy Pelosi or any member of Congress at any time visiting another country.

    Tawdry? Irresponsible? Cheap political trick? How about viewing this moment in a historical context?

    Since at least the 1980s, Likud-Neocon thought has pursued a singular historic trajectory: view the Arab/Muslim world as Israel’s immutable enemy, engage the US and the West with Israel in a generations-long struggle with that enemy – the “clash of civilizations” – pursue a policy of “Lebanonization” of all hostile Arab and Muslim states, by which their organizational structure is destroyed, causing their countries to collapse into violent ssectarian chaos, and meanwhile forcibly take lands from the West Bank (and possibly beyond) for expansion via settlement.

    The movement gathered urgency when the Oslo Peace Accords created, for Likud and the Neocons, a genuine “risk of peace.” Rabin was then assassinated, halting that risk, and Netanyahu had his US Neocon consultants prepare his Clean Break paper, laying out the strategy, with specific goals of regime change in Syria and Iraq, and Netanyahu demanding that Iran be added as the greatest threat of all. Given means of extraordinary influence over US policy during the Bush-Cheney administration, with many of the Clean Break authors staffing Cheney’s and Rumsfeld’s offices, they aggressively bent US policy and public response to the 911 attacks into a program of conquest of Iraq, followed by Paul Bremer’s deliberate destruction of its infrastructure, to achieve the desired result.

    As Netanyahu himself stated, when asked about the 911 attacks, they were “good, well not good for the Americans,” but good in the sense that now the Americans know the danger from the common enemy. From the Likud-Neocon perspective, every accidental, unintended, or surreptitiously intentional US or Israeli attack on Arab or Muslim wedding parties, civilian gatherings, hospitals, schools, relief flotillas, burning of Qurans, cartoons mocking the prophet, etc., is “good,” in the same sense, because it stimulates the unifying rage and desire for revenge among all of the common enemy, as is every terrorist attack that results, which allows him to fear-monger to his own electorate, to make their flesh crawl with fear of terrorists rising up from underground tunnels to attack kindergartens.

    Placing himself at the front of the line of political leaders in Paris created an image of unity of the West against the Arab Muslim “common enemy” in support of cartoons that mock Islam and its prophet. Addressing the US Congress lecturing our lawmakers about these dangers and having them leap to their feet in repeated standing ovations, will further identify this Likud-Neocon aggression against Islam with the US government, the culmination of two decades of Clean Break.

    Many of the papers detailing the clear focus of Likud-Neocon trajectory are gathered by history commons:

    This LIkud-Neocon trajectory must be halted, and it can be, by Netanyahu’s defeat in the elections. Obama can speed it along by imposing consequences for Israel for Netanyahu’s intransigence, throwing every single Neocon or Neolib still in his government out (and in jail when crimes can be proved), appointing realists, and dedicating himself and his two years to righting history’s trajectory to one of mutual respect among nations.

    • just on January 24, 2015, 12:09 pm

      You just hit that out of the park, David Doppler!

      *Standing ovation*

    • Boomer on January 24, 2015, 12:12 pm

      Well said, but I won’t hold my breath for Obama to do any of that.

      • MHughes976 on January 24, 2015, 1:38 pm

        High risks on all sides, I think. But I don’t think Obama will allow himself to be humiliated by being the first President to be pushed into a war by a foreign leader and I don’t think that his supporters in Congress will desert him completely and I don’t think that public opinion would welcome another war. So this time Netanyahu does not hold all the high cards.

    • CloakAndDagger on January 24, 2015, 2:18 pm

      @ David Doppler

      Great post David, however, I do want Netanyahu to be re-elected. He has done more for making Americans aware of what Israel is doing to us than any previous politician. The longer he stays in power, the quicker this marriage-made-in-hell comes to a divorce.

      If he is not re-elected, they may elect someone more diplomatic without changing the facts on the ground or the zionist trajectory. In either event, it won’t be pleasant for the Palestinians in the short term, but may well pave the way for a much more desirable outcome in the medium term for him to continue to lead Israel down into the abyss.

      • David Doppler on January 24, 2015, 3:38 pm

        I disagree, C&D. Likud-Neocon KoolAid can kill a lot of people, already has, but could escalate dramatically, which is their goal.

        Better for elections to halt trajectories. Better than assassinations. Better than more catastrophic wars.

      • Pixel on January 24, 2015, 5:27 pm

        @David Doppler

        I agree with C&D.

        As it relates only to Palestine and Israel, yes, there will be deaths but far fewer than if things drag out indefinitely as they have for decades.

        As far as a nuclear conflagration, the ONLY country I worry about pushing that button is Israel.
        And there, in the middle of it, will be Netanyahu laughing as maniacally as Nero who, in popular legend, watched as Rome savagely burned – the result of his own handiwork.

      • David Doppler on January 24, 2015, 6:44 pm

        I don’t look forward to a divorce, which would be catastrophic for Israel. An arms-length alliance based on mutual respect among nations. I draw a distinction between Likud-Neocon and Israel, generally, which could evolve away from Likud’s aggressive-destructive interference in its neighbors’ affairs.

    • JWalters on January 24, 2015, 6:36 pm

      David Doppler, excellent post. You can extend the time frame this has been going on back to pre-1948.

      • David Doppler on January 25, 2015, 11:04 am

        Thanks, JWalters.

        Your link reminds me a bit of John Judis’s book Genesis: Truman, American Jews, and the Origins of the Arab/Isaeli Conflict, in that there have been many threads in the prayer shawl of Israel’s history. The Likud/Neocon thread has been pulling that shawl, like a table cloth set at a large table, toward catastrophe, as Netanyahu seems to have snagged it on a button as he rushes out to chase his demons.

        Time for the Israeli electorate to cut that thread.

    • Theo on January 26, 2015, 8:30 am

      “Obama …… throwing every single Neocon and Neolib still in his government out…”.

      If he does such thing, then he will not have much government left! They sit not only in the WH and in the different departments, but also in all other parts of his government, such as the Pentagon, NSA, FBI, in all the think tanks advising him, all the way down to the local administrations.
      I always advocated the following: as you cannot serve two lords at once, or some say you cannot dance in two weddings simultaniously, all those individuals in goverment jobs who have US/israeli citizenships must be fired immediately. Look at the example of the present israeli ambassador to the US, he is also a US citizen and previously advised the republican party in Washington. The previous ambassador was also an US citizen serving the State of Israel, and if I am correct Netanyahu also may have a US citizenship, he grew up in this country.
      Those double citizens and their supporters are nothing but a fifth collumn, their allegiance is not to the USA, but to the jewish state. Why do we allow that foreign agents run our government, congress and the most important parts of governing bodies?

      As far as the average Joe and Jane goes. This country is probably the worst educated in the western world, political discussions are forbidden in a gathering, because it may lead to a disagreement, the MSM lies to its readers. How can one expect a major movement from this people, when their only interests are where do I get a good hamburger and what comes on the TV this evening? Sure, there are a few acceptions, like the visitors to MW, however we cannot change anything until millions of americans wake up and notice that their country was stolen. Will it ever come and will we live that long?

      • Bornajoo on January 26, 2015, 9:51 am

        Great comment Theo. I couldn’t agree more

      • Walid on January 26, 2015, 11:28 am

        The previous ambassador was also an US citizen serving the State of Israel, and if I am correct Netanyahu also may have a US citizenship, he grew up in this country. ” (Theo)

        The previous one was Oren and to be eligible to become ambassador, Israel made him renounce his American citizenship. Probably same thing happened with Dermer, but then again, this probably not much than theatrics. Oren most probably got his US citizenship back within 20 minutes of being replaced in his post by Dermer and most probably Dermer would also get his back too when his term is up in Washington. I keep thinking of the strings that were pulled to get Martin Indyk his American citizenship within a few weeks after he landed in the US from Australia.

  6. Boomer on January 24, 2015, 12:09 pm

    “Mr. Kerry, who recently called almost 50 world leaders in an effort to block the Palestinians’ attempt to join the International Criminal Court”

    Kerry called almost 50 world leaders in an effort to block the Palestinians’ attempt to join the ICC??? Wow. Why would he stoop so low? Why would he work so hard to prevent even a small chance of a modest bit of justice for people who have been oppressed for so long, by the U.S. as well as by Israel? Why would he personally associate himself with defending criminal behavior?

    I thought highly of Kerry when he ran for President. Since then, my opinion of him has declined, but I didn’t know how immoral he is. I guess I shouldn’t have been surprised. He is a politician.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius on January 24, 2015, 12:29 pm

      The ”50 world leaders” thing can’t be true, can it? That’s about a quarter of all nations on earth. And only a handful really have any influence.

      Why the foreign minister of the world’s only superpower should spend his time calling ANY nations on behalf of an obnoxious little kip in the East Med is, of course, another question entirely.

      • Pixel on January 24, 2015, 5:32 pm

        Can anyone be trusted who, within the span of a year, morphs from a Shar Pei into a muppet ?

    • Eva Smagacz on January 24, 2015, 4:10 pm

      There are official channels, where politicians say what is expected of them, and there are back channels, where the clearer intentions about outcomes are revealed.

      If Kerry called 50 foreign leaders telling them that the Palestinians joining ICC is undesirable, and against USA wishes, because this would potentially lead to prosecution of Israelis responsible for Gaza massacres , I am not sure if I would ( if I were a foreign head of state) take this as an encouragement to do something against it…… ;-)

      • just on January 24, 2015, 4:16 pm

        Brilliant/very likely.

        ;-) indeed. Thanks, Eva.

      • Pixel on January 24, 2015, 5:41 pm

        We’re assuming those 50 people would be clueless about Kerry’s “message behind the message”. They all talk in code.

        In this regard, I hardly think world leaders are stupid. They’ve long had Israel’s number and Bibi is despised universally.

  7. Sulphurdunn on January 24, 2015, 12:33 pm

    Bill Kristol looks just like the panzer commandant who blew open the doors of the bank for the Americans in the movie Kelly’s Heroes.

  8. David Nelson on January 24, 2015, 12:43 pm

    Je suis America.

  9. tinywriting on January 24, 2015, 1:18 pm

    The American people should watch Bibi in front of Congress.

    They should see their Congress bow down and worship a foreign potentate.

  10. oldgeezer on January 24, 2015, 1:28 pm

    The will be the fault of the Iranians of course if it occurs. And that fault will be used to justify all sorts of horrors and crimes being inflicted upon them. zionism is a scourge.

    • Pixel on January 24, 2015, 5:45 pm

      The ONLY good thing about Iraq is that NO one is going to fall for that [email protected], again.

      • pjdude on January 26, 2015, 2:40 am

        never underesititmate the power of human stupidity.

  11. just on January 24, 2015, 1:57 pm

    O/T: yoo- hoo, Annie:

    “8:27 P.M. Controversial Jerusalem Post columnist offered spot on Likud slate

    Controversial Jerusalem Post columnist Caroline Glick has been offered the 11th spot on the Likud slate by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Channel 2 said.

    Glick has previously called Netanyahu “immoral, irresponsible, and stupid,” in an article criticizing the Gilad Shalit deal. (Jonathan Lis)”

    • Whizdom on January 24, 2015, 2:19 pm

      There goes any claim for Likud claims to be “Centrist-Right”. With Glick they are lurching hard right.

    • on January 24, 2015, 3:42 pm

      Ms. Glick wears her hatefulness on her face.

      • just on January 24, 2015, 3:50 pm

        Yes, she does. There is a lengthy update on her @ the link, which also reveals this:

        “9:50 P.M. Lieberman seeks to ban Arab parties from running in elections

        Yisrael Beiteinu said it would seek to ban the unified Arab list from running in the coming elections.

        “The unification proves to everyone that apparently there is no difference between Khenin and Haneen, and that Dov Khenin is exactly like [Balad MK] Haneen Zoabi, who wants only to support terror organizations and cooperate with Israel’s enemies,” the party said in a statement.

        The statement added that such a list “was not worthy of serving in the Knesset of Israel.”

        The united Arab list said in response that the “so-called appeal” to ban the list from the elections is “another populist step by corrupt, racist Lieberman.” (Jack Khoury, Jonathan Lis)”

        Shamocracy. Apartheid much?

    • Pixel on January 24, 2015, 5:46 pm

      Anything that ups the crazy.

      NOW, we just have to get them elected.

  12. Taxi on January 24, 2015, 2:07 pm

    No there will not be a war against Iran. And no our soldiers will not kill and be killed in faraway lands while israelis drink dirty Martini poolside in Miami Beach.

    But there will be a war against israel in the Levant by the Levantines, a war that will create a disastrous exodus of foreign settlers out of occupied Palestine. A war that israel dreads so much that Lieberman is now going to Russia to talk to Lavrov so he can talk to Iran who will then talk to the hizb and ask them to cool it and not ‘hurt’ poor little israel over their terrorist attack in Quneitra earlier this week. LOL are them israelis bonkers or what?! They wanna war with Iran and they can’t even handle dealing with the hizb. And they think that the American people are just going to agree to wasting more American blood and treasure when they absolutely and categorically refused to even go to war in smaller, weaker Syria. Yeah right, dream on zio scrubbers! Get with the program, not even Bush Jnr was prepared to attack Iran for israel – for good reason: IT’S NOT IN OUR INTEREST! There’ll be unending civil unrest and violent demonstrations in our major cities instead of war against Iran – there will be a violent backlash against zionist institutions and leaders. Politicians who support a war against Iran will be identified and bulldozed out of office at the next elections. Netanyahu and his treasonous gangbangers on Capital Hill need to take the people’s pulse on this (like Hilary did) before opening their big mouths in America just to give comfort to warmongering israelis thousands of miles away.

    But in the meantime, I’m really excited to have Netanyahu thugly, smugly incite for war against Iran, which will actually be an incitement for war against both Russia and China too. This is what people have to remember: IRAN IS NOT ALONE OR ISOLATED. Netanyahu’s absurd song and dance will educate our country folk further on how ruinous our support for the warmongering Apartheid state of israel really is. I wholeheartedly encourage this teaching moment to take place before the cameras of the world.

    And I’m laughing my ass off right now to witness so much negative discussion of the ‘special relationship’ both in the msm and on the internet. Who woulda thunk it even a year ago?! The sacred cow is getting stuffed!

    And I look forward to Obama’s response to Beelzebub’s speech too. Maybe he’ll do a rebuttal, not in congress, but to the people of America, explaining why foreign warmongering assholes should be ignored and ignored and ignored – and eventually kicked in butt if they won’t quit it.

    And more than that, I look forward to watching both netanyahu and the republicans both lose their next elections over this heavy-handed attempt at kneecapping the Presidential institutions of the only super power in the world.

    How effing dare they?!!!

    You bet there’s gonna be a heavy price to pay for this unwarranted vicious insolence!

    • just on January 24, 2015, 2:15 pm

      Agreed, Taxi!

      I keep telling people that there will be no war against Iran by the US, nor against the US by Iran. But you said it much better than I ever could. ;-o

      You are inimitable.

    • CloakAndDagger on January 24, 2015, 2:24 pm

      Tripple ditto, Taxi. I concur on all counts.

      • Taxi on January 24, 2015, 2:58 pm

        And wouldn’t it just be grand if on the 2nd of March 2015, the day before netanyahu’s speech in congress, an israeli poll pits him at bottom popularity with voters over his imminent speech and he suddenly at the 11th hour declines Boehner’s ‘invite’: citing an acute episode of brainfreeze from eating too much ice-cream:

      • just on January 24, 2015, 3:04 pm


        I did say that he might create an “emergency”. Despicably though, his “emergencies” usually involve bombs…

        I much prefer your scenario. ;)

      • Taxi on January 24, 2015, 3:19 pm

        If there’s going to be bombs and timing involved, I see hizb bombs completely destroying a military target in the Golan timed just for the israeli election. Their response to Quneitra.

        If this were to happen, the idf will take a hit, and Netanyahu will take a hit.

        Two vultures, one stone.

      • just on January 24, 2015, 3:32 pm

        Hizbullah does have the smarts and the patience for something like that.

        Qualities that Netanyahu (Israel) does not possess.

        Thanks, Taxi.

      • Pixel on January 24, 2015, 5:56 pm


        “at the 11th hour declines Boehner’s ‘invite’…”

        Never gonna happen.

        His ego won’t allow him to back down on this.

        It’s too big.

      • MRW on January 24, 2015, 7:31 pm

        If there’s going to be bombs and timing involved . . . .

        they should do it while Netanyahu is addressing Congress. Just like Israel hit Gaza, breaking the four-month cease-fire, the night Obama was elected.

        (And hit the airport first, so Netanyahu can’t get home.)

      • Taxi on January 25, 2015, 11:23 am


        Americans angry at Netanyahu might like your idea too much.

      • Taxi on January 25, 2015, 12:27 pm

        Here’s what I’m wondering: Nasrallah has announced that he will be giving a speech this Friday/30th January (this was not scheduled before the attack on Quneitra). My question is: will he be giving the speech before or after the hizb retaliates against israel? Cuz for damn sure that’s what his speech is going to be about.

        Should be an interesting week.

    • Bornajoo on January 24, 2015, 6:48 pm

      In the context of the I/P issue I do want to see Netanyahu and his extremist nutters re-elected. I think it would be a disaster if Livni/Herzog win. They are the masters of deceit and disguise and their tactics could see any recent gains rolled back

      Regarding israel being attacked by the Levantines, this in my opinion, is just as unlikely as a US/Iran war. Such an attack would force the USA to act to protect israel. I cannot envisage any situation where the USA would just sit back and watch israel be attacked if there was a genuine chance that Israel could lose in any significant way.

      However I do believe that a short and powerful show of power and aggression by the Levantines could provide a much needed reality check to the Zionist bullies

    • RoHa on January 24, 2015, 9:36 pm

      I am under the impression that the last non-American leader who addressed Congress three times was Churchill. He was certainly trying to push the US into war, but he had the president’s backing.

      And war on Iran would be total folly. Aside from another consideration, it would close the Gulf, and cut off a large chunk of the world’s oil. This would not win friends for the US.

      But far worse is the prospect of dragging China and Russia into the war. They are both military heavyweights. The EU countries are already now thinking that the current sanctions on Russia were perhaps not the most advantageous move to make. The economic damage of the loss of the Russian market is being followed up by a shortage of Russian gas. They will not be over-eager to take on the Russians on the battlefield. They know where a lot of that battlefield will be.

      They, along with anyone else who knows anything about anything, are recalling that Russia has a large,well-equipped, army, nuclear weapons, the best warplanes, the most terrifying anti-ship missiles, rivers, swamps, snow, ice, lots of Russians, and lots of vodka. (The combination of the last two is as scary as all the rest put together.)

      We won’t talk about how big the Chinese army is.

      Things are already tense enough in the Ukraine. To pick a fight with Iran that could bring in Russia and China would take a whole new level of combined stupidity and insanity. But history teaches me not to underestimate the possibility of record-breaking stupidity and insanity.

      • Taxi on January 25, 2015, 10:09 am


        FIVE DAYS AGO:
        Russia Signs Military Cooperation Deal with Iran:

        Like I said, Iran is not alone; neither is Russia – and is China ever?!

      • hophmi on January 25, 2015, 1:30 pm

        Actually, RoHa, there are a few parallels here. When Churchill spoke in 1952, there were significant differences between British and American foreign policy, particularly on Iran. Iran had just nationalized its oil industry, and Churchill wanted the Americans to take a much harder line than they were inclined to take. The NY Times reported that Churchill received a much more rapturous reception from Congress than Truman ever would have, even as they pointed out that Churchill’s foreign policy proposals were significantly more hard-line than those of the President or the Congress.

        In the speech, which is quite interesting to read today, Churchill warned against interfering with the internal politics of other states, and voiced strong support for Israel, but cautioned that Israel had to establish friendly relations with its Arab neighbors.

  13. Pixel on January 24, 2015, 3:54 pm

    “Gooey-eyed”: A serious condition related to blindness.

    Cause: Over exposure to Zionism
    Prognosis : Terminal, if left untreated
    Treatment: The soothing balm of MW.
    MW: Apply liberally and often.

    The only known cure for this condition is an identity transplant.

  14. Taxi on January 24, 2015, 3:57 pm

    Every islamophobic cliche in the universe will be uttered by netanyahu on the 3rd March.

    He will mix isis and alqaida and hamas and hizbollah and iran all into one explosive cocktail and serve it to the American masses.

    Will they drink this hootch of hate?

    • Taxi on January 24, 2015, 4:08 pm

      And will Netanyahu open his speech with: ‘Je suis Charlieyahoo’?

    • Taxi on January 24, 2015, 4:09 pm

      And will his donkey-felators in congress get a stirring down south to hear him speaking in French?

  15. Taxi on January 24, 2015, 4:30 pm

    Netanyahu Speech To Congress Is High-Risk, High-Reward, Analysts Say:

  16. Taxi on January 24, 2015, 4:35 pm

    Say, is it considered illegal online gambling to bet money on how many standing ovations the nut will get from the nutters?

  17. Taxi on January 24, 2015, 4:40 pm

    Michael Oren calls on Netanyahu to cancel Congress speech: ‘Cynical political move’:

    • Taxi on January 24, 2015, 4:45 pm

      You can stop the train wreck, Michael Oren, but the train has already run over the President.

      Significant irreparable damage has already been done to our stature – to our standing as Empire.

      Therefore we now have to force daylight between us.

    • Whizdom on January 24, 2015, 4:46 pm

      Michael Oren is to Hillary Clinton as Ron Dermer is to Netanyahu

  18. Pixel on January 24, 2015, 5:04 pm


    Words matter.

    It’s time that we stop dancing around this term, like pixies gaily twisting ribbons around a May pole.

    This is OUR county and we’d better damn well stand up for it, not in tentative whispers but LOUD, PROUD, and OFTEN.

    From my personal conversations over the past few days with staffers who take messages for Congress people, apparently, they’re getting used to hearing the term from the public.

    It’s powerful,
    it’s an important part of the narrative,
    and it’s TRUE.

    • Pixel on January 24, 2015, 6:06 pm

      Let me clarify that, when I say treason, I’m not speaking specifically about this invitation.

      It’s much bigger than the “Miss Manners Book of Political Etiquette”.

    • Abierno on January 25, 2015, 7:52 pm

      We need to crowd source loud , proud and often. Handing out yard signs saying”, ________, _________, and ______ (fill in name of congressman and senators), we support our President.” A gold star should appear prominently on any sign wherein one or more of the family is a vet. Since this is political, aspiring candidates or incumbents can take the ball and run with it. Any APAiC or Stand With Us blowback would immediately be defined as unpatriotic. Videos of all those signs especially those with gold stars would be telling. If properly bipartisan organized this should be an easy way to mark clearly our national outrage at Netanyahu’s using our country as his political and financial ATM. Screening these videos – state by state in front of the Vietnam memorial as Netanyahu speaks would be a powerful rebuttal, particularly if you highlight the gold stars.

      Loud and proud with an unmistakable message!

  19. just on January 24, 2015, 5:42 pm

    “Hatnuah party leader and former foreign minister, Tzipi Livni, and former finance minister, Yair Lapid, have accused Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of harming Israel’s ties with the United States, and its security, to promote his political agenda.

    “IDF soldiers are being dragged to The Hague for war crimes that they didn’t commit. The only barrier preventing this is the U.S., which is helping Israel block this attack. This is why our ties with the U.S. are vital for Israel’s security,” Livni said.”

    I sincerely hope that you are correct, Tzipi Cast Lead, “Operation Wrath of God”.


  20. JLewisDickerson on January 24, 2015, 6:10 pm

    RE: “Brooks, who has said he’s ‘gooey-eyed’ over Israel and whose son now serves in the Israeli military, also said ‘Bibi’s a better speaker’ than Obama.” ~ Weiss

    MY COMMENT: There you go again! Confronting us with the inanities of David Brooks! And on a weekend, for Christ’s sake!
    Not to mention that obnoxious photo of Bill Kristol that triggered my gag reflex!
    Golly Pete!
    For the love of Mike!


    [EXCERPT] . . . The New York Times‘ David Brooks today claims that anti-Christian bias is so widespread in America – which has never elected a non-Christian president – that “the University of Illinois fired a professor who taught the Roman Catholic view on homosexuality.” He forgot to mention that the very same university just terminated its tenure contract with Professor Steven Salaita over tweets he posted during the Israeli attack on Gaza that the university judged to be excessively vituperative of Jewish leaders, and that the journalist Chris Hedges was just disinvited to speak at the University of Pennsylvania for the Thought Crime of drawing similarities between Israel and ISIS. . .

    SOURCE –

    Go out to the parking lot
    And you get in your car and you drive real far
    And you drive all night and then you see a light
    And it comes right down and lands on the ground
    And out comes a man from Mars
    And you try to run but he’s got a gun
    And he shoots you dead and he eats your head
    And then you’re in the man from Mars
    You go out at night, eatin’ cars
    You eat Cadillacs, Lincolns too
    Mercuries and Subarus
    And you don’t stop, you keep on eatin’ cars . . .

    • Blondie – Rapture 4:55 – [OFFICIAL]
    • Blondie – Rapture (Special Disco Mix) 9:58
    • Blondie – Rapture (Digital Remaster – 1080p) 6:32 –
    • Blondie, “Rapture” (live) 1999 (HQ) Glastonbury 7:43 –
    • Blondie – Rapture (12″ mix) 10:05 –
    • Blondie Rapture Instrumental 6:33 –

  21. Rusty Pipes on January 24, 2015, 7:41 pm

    Just to keep perspective, these two former staffers are Israel Lobby hacks: “Here is a rightwing publication saying that former White House officials, including two who worked under Obama, say that the president is not tough enough on Iran.” Unsurprisingly, one of them is Dennis Ross. The other, Ray Takeyh, has close connections to organizations like JINSA and WINEP and holds revisionist opinions about Iran, such as:

    ‘Takeyh has also argued that the 1953 coup against Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mossaddeq, widely attributed by historians and even former CIA operatives as having been a joint operation by American and British intelligence agencies, was largely the work of Iranian clergy.

    “The clergy itself played a major role in toppling Mosaddeq,” Takeyh said in a Foreign Affairs article from 2014. “It would help greatly if the United States no longer felt the need to keep implicitly apologizing for its role in Mosaddeq’s ouster.”‘

    If these are the kind of former staffers criticizing him, Obama has little to worry about from his main base.

  22. Kay24 on January 24, 2015, 8:44 pm

    Despite the controversy, the outrage, the loud criticism, it seems Israel’s Chickenshit PM, is hell bent on still coming over to soil the halls of Congress, at the expense of the President, and spew verbal zionist garbage, and politicize every issue he can, so that he can help the shameful Congress insult the President, and derail negotiations with Iran. We were conned into starting a war with Iraq, for no good reason, by those who serve Israel while wearing the face of an American, and since that may not work now, it seems the despicable war monger, is using our politicians who have no principles, paid for and bought by Israel’s lobbies, to push for another war, for which our kids and our resources will be used up once again. If anyone thinks Chickenshit would put IDF troops on the ground in Iran, you got to be totally naive – we have yet to see ONE Israeli life put at risk for any war, that Israel instigates, provokes, or falsify intelligence for. Benjamin Netanyahu is an arrogant, piece of excreta, and it is sicking to see this nation that extracts all it can from us, once again, calling the shots, because those we vote for are in those huge zionist pockets.

  23. Kay24 on January 24, 2015, 10:01 pm

    Well, at least this time Diane Feinstein is supporting the President and not Bibi/Israel:

    “Feinstein tells Haaretz: PM speech ‘inappropriate,’ Iran sanctions ‘dangerous’
    The growing backlash against Netanyahu’s planned speech in Congress is diluting Democratic support for the Kirk-Menendez sanctions bill.

    Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein of California says that inviting Prime Minister Netanyahu to address Congress during an Israeli election period is “highly inappropriate” and that imposing new sanctions on Iran at this time is “reckless and dangerous.” Haaretz

    Americans should note if their Congress people are supporting an alien leader who wants war (at our expense), or their own President, who wants to avoid yet another bloody war.

  24. ApolloSpeaks on January 24, 2015, 10:39 pm


    then Speaker Nancy Pelosi (over the objections of the Bush administration) violated protocol and led a congressional delegation to Damascus to reignite peace talks between Syria and Israel, as if she were the Secretary of State? As I recall Harry Reid the Dems (and probably Barack Obama) backed what she did.

    • annie on January 25, 2015, 1:55 am

      she was the speaker of the house. this is the equivalent of John Boehner or Eric Cantor leading a delegation to israel without asking the president’s permission. happens all the time. in fact aipac arranges these trips regularly. romney went there without asking Obama’s permission too. it doesn’t violate protocol for members of congress to visit other countries without asking permission of the israel lobby.

      nice try, no cigar.

      • ApolloSpeaks on January 25, 2015, 8:33 am

        Apples and oranges. Pelosi went there not just on a visit but in an unofficial diplomatic capacity (without authorization from the White House) to specifically rekindle peace talks between Israel and Syria as if she were Condi Rice […]. LOL! That was the last time she tried that as she made a complete fool of herself. That was a far more serious breach of protocol than Netanyahu’s upcoming visit. You need to work on your reading comprehension skills so you don’t embarrass yourself like this again..

      • annie on January 25, 2015, 8:53 am

        an unofficial diplomatic capacity (without authorization from the White House)

        so that’s your standard of unofficial diplomatic capacity? LOL. good to know. You need to work on your comprehension skills so you don’t embarrass yourself like this again..

      • ApolloSpeaks on January 25, 2015, 9:58 am

        Please define for us the word “diplomacy.” Then tell us how it doesn’t apply to what Pelosi was trying to accomplish in Damascus with Assad. This is Polisci 101 stuff.

      • annie on January 25, 2015, 11:56 am

        now you’re playing partisan politics considering Reps. Frank Wolf, Joe Pitts and Robert Aderholt met with Assad in Damascus the day before she arrived and like them, there was nothing she said there that was against stated american policy goals.

        unlike this latest deplorable and unprecedented “invitation” there’s nothing unprecedented (or highly unusual) about high ranking officials (and sometimes not so high ranking) including congresspeople making trips to visit foreign leaders outside the purview of the white house. (as i mentioned they go to israel all the time, often sans seeking “authorization” from the WH). example

        your pelosi argument here is a diversion anyway, because the analogy you’re making doesn’t pertain to netanyahu’s action (which happens to be the topic -and it’s highly likely this “idea” came from team netanyahu, either dermer or the PM himself), but house speaker boehner. your analogy involves what is or isn’t considered normal protocol for congressional diplomacy. whereas netanyahu is a foreign leader w/a policy pitted against the prez. pelosi didn’t invite assad to address to congress against the will of bush. so there’s your apples and oranges. the criticisms all over the talk shows today are not about boehner. he did what’s now expected of lobby pushovers, it’s netanyahu’s chutza that’s in being criticized.

      • just on January 25, 2015, 12:07 pm

        Whoops, looks like somebody fell off the turnip truck while traveling the superhighway.

      • annie on January 25, 2015, 12:58 pm

        lol! just you crack me up.

      • ApolloSpeaks on January 25, 2015, 4:38 pm

        The policy goals of the Bush administration was to restart peace talks between Syria and Israel. Because the administration wasn’t making progress Pelosi decided unilaterally-without so much as discussing it with the administration- to step in to reanimate the process-

        As the Obama administration has made zero progress in stopping Iran from building the bomb and containing its drive for regional hegemony it’s time for a new and tougher approach. Hence, Netanyahu’s address to Congress making the case to reimpose punishing sanctions at an opportune time when declining oil prices are hurting Iran. Both Republicans and Democrats who want to reimpose sanctions got it right. The analogy is as clear as day.

      • straightline on January 26, 2015, 7:28 am

        @ApolloSpeaks “Building the bomb”

        We’ve heard it all before and before and before ….

        This is nothing to do with “building the bomb” and is all about Israel’s regional hegemony.

      • ApolloSpeaks on January 26, 2015, 12:48 pm


        Regionally isolated Israel has “regional hegemony?” How?

      • Taxi on January 26, 2015, 1:12 pm

        HAD hegemony, dear, HAD.

        Why else would israel be freaking the deaky out?!

    • amigo on January 25, 2015, 1:12 pm

      “Then Speaker Nancy Pelosi (over the objections of the Bush administration) violated protocol and led a congressional delegation to Damascus to reignite peace talks between Syria and Israe -“Apollo rants

      I love watching zio apologists tying their own noose.

      Pelosi (for who I have no respect) at least was seeking to foment Peace.Your shower of war mongers are attempting to foment war.

      See the difference .

      Btw, I thought that Apollo was the Greek God of Healing.Better get a new screen name.Your present one just don,t pass the smell test.

    • traintosiberia on January 26, 2015, 7:01 pm

      Nixon succeeded in torpedoing the Johnson administration’s planned engotiation with N Vietnam by reaching out to S Vietnmase and promising better deal. That was the treason but his secret landing in China for securing a better future with China was not .
      Reagan’s suucceessful derailment of the negotiations to release hostage from Iran was a treason but not his withdrawal from Lebanon. Pelosi visit was not to undermine the Bush admisntration’s stated policy but to increase the chances. Netanyahu is not coming to bolster the adminsitration’s case for more engagement with Iran but to undermine it and to even rebuke the European leaders for having the same stand . He has conssitently undermined the US approaches to the peace process and to the settlement issues. He lies ( over Syrian gas attack ) He now openly working with Nursa Front and weakening Syrian regime in direct opposition to the efforts of US to curb and to eliminate the Jihadism . (

  25. just on January 25, 2015, 10:24 am

    Haaretz has the video clip from Bill Maher, Howard Dean, etc from Friday nite:

    “Bill Maher: King Abdullah died. He was praised by everyone from Obama to McCain as a “moderate.” Christine Lagarde, head of the IMF, said he was a strong advocate of women. In the kingdom, women can’t drive, leave the house without a man, hold a lot of jobs. There’s summary beheading of female criminals. This is what I call the soft bigotry of low expectations when it comes to Muslims.

    And Howard I know we disagree on this. I heard you say that “ISIS is as Islamic as I am.

    Howard Dean: I’m thrilled you brought it up because the right-wing jumped all over me after the usual suspects distorted what I said. Here’s why I say that. Here’s why I don’t call ISIS Islamic terrorists: it empowers them to do it. What they are, are a group of thugs who are murderers and subhuman. I mean, they do horrible things.

    They want us to call them Islamic terrorists because it connects them with a billion people. They are not.

    Maher: But they are connected.”


    “Stephen: We all agree that Israel’s an ally of the United States and a democratic ally and the prime minister can accept an invitation to speak from the speaker of the house. Right France is fine I like the French.

    Maher: They are an ally but no country no matter how close they are to us should be making American policy and we’re getting very close on the Iran issue to allowing Israel to write American policy.”

    Video at link…

  26. Walid on January 25, 2015, 11:24 am

    The anxiously awaited Nasrallah statement is scheduled for Friday 3 pm. Enormous pressure is on Nasrallah to do something in retaliation to what Israel did at Quneitra and part of the pressure is coming from the Iranians that have promised to make Israel pay heavily. But since Iran is into deep serious negotiations with the US and wouldn’t want to upset the applecart, Iran’s response has to come from Hizbullah. It’s being guessed that Israel will not be reacting to a punch to its chin on the Golan by Hizbullah and this would be the end of it. If these calculations are wrong and Israel decides to retaliate to whatever Hizbullah does to it, things will become very ugly for both sides. I’m guessing that by Friday’s 3 pm speech, something by Hizbullah will have already happened.

    • just on January 25, 2015, 11:31 am

      oh my, Walid….

      Now The Krauthammer speaks:


      “Bret Baier: Charles, just listening to the press briefing at the White House today, they are not happy about the Bibi Netanyahu invite. I mean, it’s clear.

      Krauthammer: They are not happy. They have spoken anonymously to an Israeli newspaper really issuing a threat, a personal threat to Netanyahu, saying we are going to remember this, we’re in power for two years. Look, Obama is treating Israel the way you would treat either a child or an enemy. He has very nice soft words about the Iranians. He says how they have not violated the interim agreement, how they have frozen their program, which they haven’t. He doesn’t talk about their influence in Yemen.”

      ugh. Professional hasbarist.

    • Taxi on January 25, 2015, 12:34 pm

      I just posted up-thread: wondering if Nasrallah’s speech will be before or after the attack.

      Maybe no attack till all the ducks are lined for the big one? I would prefer that scenario: the single fatal punch.

      • Walid on January 25, 2015, 1:25 pm

        Taxi, he’s already made a speech about retaliation before the Quneitra hit, so he can’t make another speech about something he’d do in the future. I’m betting Israel wil not retaliate and the story will end there.

      • just on January 25, 2015, 1:48 pm

        “In the wake of an attack a week ago that killed an Iranian general and several top Hezbollah officials, Iran doubled down on its threats against Israel, warning that it was planning “special retaliation.”
        And on Saturday, the Iranian news network Press TV quoted Brig. Gen. Hossein Salami as telling Iran’s Al-Alam broadcast service that the country would “certainly consider a special retaliation for this issue.”

        Salami said the country planned to widen the battlefield with Israel, opening a front across the West Bank.

        Media reports say that after the attack, Israel deployed its Iron Dome antimissile battery near the border with Lebanon. And the country shut down its airspace over the Golan Heights, ordering civil aircraft to stay away.

        Israel also warned Lebanon to curb Hezbollah. The Lebanese newspaper Annahar reported that Israel sent a message to the government, via the United Nations force in Lebanon, that the entire country could come under fire if Hezbollah acted on its threats to strike Israel.”

      • Taxi on January 25, 2015, 1:57 pm

        Walid, I’m hearing that the isaelis want to do a deal with the hizb thru the Russians whereby the israelis agree to take a ‘small’ hit from the hizb and in return israel will just leave it at that.

        Apart from the cowardly proposition, I don’t think the hizb does ‘small’ hits. And I think the hizb also knows that the israelis never keep their word so no point in doing any deals with them.

        Al Mayadeen yesterday was showing footage of hizb men battling alquaida in Syria and the significance of the video was indicating that the hizb (for the first time) is now using night-vision goggles and doing bulls-eye precision strikes. We saw footage of the hizb mowing down a whole Alqaida compound under moonlight. I have no doubt that the release of this video is causing great concern in the israeli war theater – hizb’s acquisition of night-vision goggles is freaking them out. The idf has lined up tanks etc on the Lebanese border, but it’s all for show to give false comfort to their illegal settlers as these weapons are utterly useless at stopping hizb precision rockets and missiles, plus Iron Dome radars do not pick up the Fateh A-110 missiles in hizb’s arsenal.

        The next 6 weeks are fraught with danger.

      • aiman on January 26, 2015, 12:26 am

        Israel has repeatedly violated the sovereignty of Syria, Iraq and Iran. It continues to do so through terrorist actions. Its neocon agents in the US in conjunction with the Dick Cheneys from the Bernard Lewis University gave us the Iraq war. Imagine a Hezbollah style trained force in a United Middle East; the Zionists would be pissing in their fruit loops, that’s why JSIS supports ISIS.

  27. just on January 25, 2015, 12:53 pm

    “Israeli prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu defended on Sunday a planned speech to Congress about Iran, saying he had a moral obligation to take every opportunity to speak out on an issue that poses a mortal threat to his country.

    His visit to Washington in March has opened up a political rift in the US and has drawn accusations in Israel that Netanyahu is undermining a strategic alliance in order to win an election due two weeks after the trip.

    Briefing his cabinet on the speech to be made on 3 March to a joint session of Congress, Netanyahu said his priority was to urge the US and other powers not to negotiate an Iranian nuclear deal that might endanger Israel.

    “In coming weeks, the powers are liable to reach a framework agreement with Iran, an agreement liable to leave Iran as a nuclear threshold state,” he said in remarks carried by Israeli broadcasters.

    “As prime minister of Israel, I am obligated to make every effort to prevent Iran from getting nuclear weaponry that will be aimed at the state of Israel. This effort is global and I will go anywhere I am invited to make the state of Israel’s case and defend its future and existence.”

    Israeli defence minister Moshe Yaalon, while siding with Netanyahu, acknowledged the problematic handling of the event.

    “There have certainly arisen questions here that should be worked out between us and the Americans, between the administration and Congress,” Yaalon told Israel’s Army Radio.

    “We have no intention of causing offence. We have no intention of causing harm.””

    remorseless, clueless and dangerous dolts.

    • seafoid on January 25, 2015, 1:50 pm

      Meanwhile Euro Jewish leaders want antisemitism to be a crime.
      Not possible as long as the anti-Semitism machine aka the IDF is still in operation.

      • just on January 25, 2015, 2:02 pm

        True, seafoid.

        I read that article this morning, and found this interesting (from your link):

        “The proposal would outlaw antisemitism as well as criminalising a host of other activities deemed to be violating fundamental rights on specious religious, cultural, ethnic and gender grounds.

        These would include banning the burqa, female genital mutilation, forced marriage, polygamy, denial of the Holocaust and genocide generally, criminalising xenophobia, and creating a new crime of “group libel” – public defamation of ethnic, cultural or religious groups. Women’s and gay rights would also be covered.

        The proposed legislation would also curb, in the wake of the Paris attacks, freedom of expression on grounds of tolerance and in the interests of security.

        “Tolerance is a two-way street. Members of a group who wish to benefit from tolerance must show it to society at large, as well as to members of other groups and to dissidents or other members of their own group,” says the document.

        “There is no need to be tolerant to the intolerant. This is especially important as far as freedom of expression is concerned: that freedom must not be abused to defame other groups.””

        I quite agree that what’s good for the goose….

        Not sure if the usual suspects are gonna go for it~ they’re more likely to wish for a “pure” law that benefits only themselves.

      • a blah chick on January 25, 2015, 2:39 pm

        I think it was the Wiesenthal people who released their list of the worst anti Semites of 2014 and at least 7 of them were Jewish.

        That should tell you something right there.

      • RoHa on January 25, 2015, 7:21 pm

        “These would include … female genital mutilation,”

        Already illegal in Britain, and I suspect in most other European countries. But will male circumcision be allowed? If so, why the discrimination?

        “forced marriage, polygamy,”

        Already illegal in Britain, and I suspect most other European countries have some legal remedies.

        “denial of the Holocaust”

        Already illegal in too many countries. Why no freedom of speech, inquiry, etc., about a particular bit of history?

        ” and creating a new crime of “group libel” – public defamation of ethnic, cultural or religious groups. ”

        So British comedians wil have to throw away all their material about the French and the Welsh.

      • RoHa on January 25, 2015, 8:02 pm

        And this website will have to be shut down.

      • RoHa on January 25, 2015, 8:14 pm

        And this would be right out.

      • annie on January 25, 2015, 8:18 pm

        RoHa, where did you find this website? you are a freak!

      • eljay on January 25, 2015, 9:15 pm

        “The proposal would outlaw antisemitism as well as criminalising a host of other activities deemed to be violating fundamental rights on specious religious, cultural, ethnic and gender grounds.

        These would include banning the burqa, female genital mutilation, forced marriage, polygamy, denial of the Holocaust and genocide generally, criminalising xenophobia, and creating a new crime of “group libel” – public defamation of ethnic, cultural or religious groups. Women’s and gay rights would also be covered.

        1. Who will determine what constitutes anti-Semitism? (Gawd help us if it’s the Dersh or hophmeee or people like them!) Will valid criticism of Israel be lumped in with it?

        2. Why should a fear (xenophobia) be criminalized?

        3. Why on earth should polygamy be criminalized? It’s a bureaucratic issue (divorce settlements, pensions, etc.), not a criminal one. (Laws already exist to address any issues involving under-aged brides/grooms.)

      • straightline on January 26, 2015, 12:06 am

        Polygamy is a federal crime in the US – courtesy of Brigham Young.

        From the latter:

        “Mormons were determined to create a Zionist, polygamous kingdom in the newly acquired territories.”

        “Yet with the start of the Civil War, Republican majorities were able to pass legislation meant to curb the Mormon practice of polygamy such as the Morrill Anti-Bigamy Act of 1862.”

        Re Roha’s cartoons, New Zealand has 7 sheep per person (or, putting it more starkly, about 14 per male New Zealander) – not a little over 4 as the cartoon suggests. However in the good old days – 1982 – it had about 22 sheep per person (44 or so per male). It appears that a crisis is approaching! Come to think of it, my last statement would probably be banned under this proposal.

      • traintosiberia on January 26, 2015, 6:30 pm

        Israel is teaming up with Saudi and again with al quida ( Now it wants to show solidarity with “burqa wearing wome” in France . Sauidi might be corrupt,bigoted,and dying creatire trying to survive, but the “Burqa’ can give antisemtism brigade a pass .The last thing muslims in France need is to fall prey to the machinations . It will come to haunt them. I hope muslims dont turn out to be so stupid as made out by the zionists .

  28. amigo on January 25, 2015, 1:35 pm

    It seems to me that the best way to counter this move by the republicans is to invite Rouhani to address the joint Congress.Let the American people make up their minds about where/why their sons and daughters should give their lives .

    Equal opportunity in the grand old spirit of the USA.

    • traintosiberia on January 26, 2015, 6:32 pm

      Remember what happened to the President of columbia when he interviewed Iranian President Ahmednezad ? It would be million times worst kind of insult to Iranianin President .

  29. Steve Macklevore on January 25, 2015, 5:01 pm

    “Netanyahu ought to remember that President Obama has a year and a half left to his presidency, and that there will be a price,”

    The price, the White House solemnly announced today, would be one nickel and one dime, payable when Mr. Netanyahu, affectionately known as “Bibi” sees fit to do so.

    • tree on January 25, 2015, 9:39 pm

      The price, the White House solemnly announced today, would be one nickel and one dime, payable when Mr. Netanyahu, affectionately known as “Bibi” sees fit to do so.

      Upon announcement of the fine, Congress immediately passed legislation increasing aid to Israel by $1 billion to help defray the cost of the fine.

  30. Qualtrough on January 26, 2015, 2:20 am

    In the run-up to Netanyahu’s appearance, I suggest that Mondoweiss hold a contest in which readers can offer their ideas as to what kind of childish cartoon(s) he will hold up.

    • Taxi on January 26, 2015, 1:52 pm

      I was thinking yesterday of suggesting a Netanyahu speech-writer spoof competition.

      • talknic on January 27, 2015, 6:14 am

        Netanyahu’s speech writers would win…

      • Taxi on January 27, 2015, 6:21 am

        LOL good one talky!

  31. Taxi on January 26, 2015, 1:47 pm

    Great pile-on at Jennifer Rubin by WaPo commentators! LOL, man – what can I say but thank you netanyahu, you truly are a gift that keeps on giving:

  32. Helen Marshall on January 26, 2015, 1:51 pm

    Meantime, Obama hustles off to India to sign agreements for US nuclear power firms to operate there, with no liability for any accident that may occur, and converts India into another vassal state – we are trying to dismantle the BRICS threat to our imperial power.

    Pausing to kiss the ring of the new Saudi monarch.

    The next act in this drama may not be so entertaining. Albert Einstein’s remark that World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones is looking very prescient (or maybe optimistic?)

  33. Taxi on January 26, 2015, 2:03 pm

    Say, Phil Weiss, isn’t time you wrote an article about israel’s illegal nuclear stockpile? I mean Netanyahu is coming to lecture us about Iran’s “dangerous” nuclear program while his crooked finger is on the button of a huge ILLEGAL stockpile. Go on, Phil, expose this insane and sickening upsidedownism!

    • annie on January 26, 2015, 5:37 pm

      LOL rabbi botox.

    • just on January 26, 2015, 5:43 pm

      So funny that you called him that! I think that every time I see his name in print! It is, however, botox gone awry. His brain is obviously frozen and his beard is in disarray…. I think he may have had a cocktail or two instilled with an excess dose of growth hormone.

  34. Nevada Ned on January 26, 2015, 5:45 pm

    There’s a lot that Obama could do if he really wanted to…

    e.g., while Netanyahu is addressing the Congressional reps,

    Obama could….

    meet with a delegation of Israeli peace activists

    encourage public discussion of the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty (Obama meets with survivors at the WH)

    issue a public proclamation that Jonathan Pollard should stay in jail for life,

    Revive the Larry Franklin case

    If Obama doesn’t want to do this in person, he could have a surrogate to it.

    There is no shortage of raw materials!

    Netanyahu is a big fat juicy target.

  35. Krendall Mist on January 26, 2015, 8:48 pm

    Weiss writes: “I think Matthews is wrong about this, that if a nuclear weapon is a real eventuality (though many experts say that Iran has not sought to develop a nuclear weapon), and the issue were actually framed for the American people, they’d support containment of Iran.”

    Containment of what? Zionist fantasies? For thirty years, the Zionists, their gutless coat-holders in Congress. “experts” like David “not so” Albright, and the Zionist-ridden media have blown enough hot gas about nonexistent Iranian nuclear weapon plans to fill a universe. It’s a big whopping stinking fat fraud. It is astonishing how much has been said and written, time and resources, an entire industry all spent on something that not only does not exist–but would not have any goddamned effect on the US of A even if it did.

    Enough is enough. If Obama had the slightest sliver of courage, he’d pull the plug on the Jewish and Democratic State” this instant and stand back as the true owners of the real estate overran the place and cleaned house.

  36. Taxi on January 27, 2015, 1:15 am

    Oh dear, somebody is upset that they’re losing the hasbara war – and it’s just gonna get uglier and uglier all the way to the ICC:

    Mark Levin: ‘This President’s Anti-Semitism is Catching On’:

  37. Kay24 on January 27, 2015, 7:02 am

    Adding insult to injury, show off entities who promised aid to rebuild Gaza seems to be not living up to their promises. For shame, for shame. They do not give a damn about helping these poor victims, and once again, it is they who suffer. How about the Arab nations?

    “REUTERS – The main UN aid agency in the Gaza Strip said on Tuesday a lack of international funding had forced it to suspend payments to tens of thousands of Palestinians for repairs to homes damaged in last summer’s war.

    “People are literally sleeping amongst the rubble, children have died of hypothermia,” Robert Turner, Gaza director of operations for the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA), said in a statement.

    He said UNRWA received only $135 million of the $720 million pledged by donors to its cash assistance program for 96,000 refugee families whose homes were damaged or destroyed in the 50-day conflict between the Hamas Islamist movement and Israel.

    “It is unclear why this funding has not been forthcoming,” Turner said, without identifying where the shortfall was coming from. “While some funds remain available to begin the reconstruction of totally destroyed homes, the agency has exhausted all funding to support repairs and rental subsidies.”

    So far, he said, UNRWA has provided more than $77 million to 66,000 families to repair their homes or find temporary alternatives, but now due to a lack of funds the agency “has been forced to suspend its cash assistance program”.

  38. ApolloSpeaks on January 27, 2015, 11:35 am

    OBAMA TO NETANYAHU: A thousand curses on you for depriving me of a Pali-Israeli peace agreement. Thanks to you I’ll have nothing to show posterity on foreign policy but a legacy of ashes and dust.

    NETANYAHU TO OBAMA: Moron! Idiot! Schm*ck! Thanks to you radical jihadist genocidal Iran is getting the bomb and establishing an empire of blood and death across the Middle East. And what you want most is a Pali-Israeli peace deal? Schm*ck!

    Click for Chris Kyle, Iraq and International Law. It’s mindblowing

  39. Taxi on January 27, 2015, 2:42 pm

    Obama Campaign Team Arrives In Israel To Defeat Netanyahu In March Elections:

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