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Adversity brings out character, and Benjamin Netanyahu is running like an angry outsider in his country. At a rally of the hard right wing in Tel Aviv night he bragged about never giving in to Washington’s pressure to give up Jewish land. He had never evacuated settlers and he will never evacuate settlers, he said.

“We just announced the building of new homes in Jerusalem,” he said. Then referring to his main opponents he went on:

“Tzipi Livni says that building in Jerusalem is wrong. If Jews cannot build in Jerusalem, where can they build? Buji Herzog says, I see Jerusalem as two political capitals, west Jerusalem for Israel and east Jerusalem for Palestine. [Boos.] That’s what they’re trying to hide, but those are their beliefs. We have a different way. We will save Judaism in all parts of the country. I stood up against even the biggest pressure. I said what I believe in Washington. When there is pressure against us, the prime minister must stand strong, even when the Americans oppose us. That is what I will keep doing.”

The mask was off at the rally. Did the New York Times tell you that the Israeli leaders could make concessions these last six years? You were misled. Netanyahu will never be for two states. “As long as Likud is leading this country, the national side … we won’t give up Jerusalem, we won’t give anything to our enemies.” The centrist Zionist Camp of Livni and Herzog will give up land to the Palestinians.

As I heard this and heard the sea of Jews in Rabin Square chant Bibi Bibi, I had to wonder: Why did Obama ever meet with this man, let alone meet with him more than a dozen times? Why didn’t he just say, You know my number, when you are willing to cut a deal, call me? The US press which also presumes to support the idea of two states never asked this question.

Again and again Netanyahu promised that he would not “evacuate” Jewish families. That is why the “left” says he accomplished nothing, he said. Even if he raised the minimum wage, lowered unemployment, built rail stations, he did not evacuate settlers, and therefore he did “nothing.”

Coming a week after anti-Netanyahu forces gathered in the same square, this rally of tens of thousands of rightwingers was called a “farewell party” by the center left, which is excited to see the end of the Netanyahu era. And the rightwing has imbibed much of this fatalistic belief. One man came up to me to say almost proudly, we have lost. Others gave off the same defensive, bitter, party’s-over feeling. “We are not ashamed to be rightwing,” a settler woman said to me.

With the election two days away, the rally represented a defiant claim on the Israeli political soul: what does it mean to be nationalistic? Netanyahu spoke many times of “our way” and “my way,” and that way is warlike. He had learned from his father the scholar and his grandfather the rabbi:

“The Jewish nation is 4000 years old. For 2000 years we fought for a state in our land. For 2000 years we fought to go back to our land and now we are fighting to stay in our land. To stay in Jerusalem. That gives me strength to fight. That is my mission. That is our mission.”

“Each one of you is a soldier in this war,” he said. “We have Order 8, they have V15.”

Order 8 (my translator tells me) is the notice to a young person that he or she must come join the army. V15 (Victory in ’15) is an Israeli campaign to get rid of Netanyahu that has a lot of foreign support, including from a former Obama campaign official. A V15 volunteer even moved through the Netanyahu rally crowd, giving out V15 stickers. People tried to ignore him, he spoke to me of the necessity of giving up land so that Palestinians could have self-determination.

The defiant spirit of the Jewish settler movement was the theme of the rally. The Arab List that could lend support to a centrist coalition government was the enemy, mentioned only once or twice. The nationalists here deny the Palestinian presence in the land any way that they can. Netanyahu was preceded at the microphone by Daniella Weiss, a settler leader who has approved pricetag attacks on Israeli army bases when the government tried to remove settler outposts.  She said that Netanyahu was opposed by a party of weakness and “appeasement.” The first thing Isaac Herzog will do as prime minister is to go to Ramallah to meet Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas, he has said.

“He wants to give away the houses of 100,000 Jews,” she said.

Netanyahu was followed at the microphone by his partner on the right, Naftali Bennett of the Jewish Home party. His speech was even more religious nationalist than Netanyahu’s.

“The land of Israel belongs to the people of Israel… From Brussels to Washington.. we tell them loud and clear, No nation can be an occupier in its own land. I stand in front of you and swear, Never ever will we allow anyone to give up even a centimeter of the land of Israel. ..

This election is about one thing. Will Israel remain Jewish?”

So the Jewish state is about to lose its Jewish character to a bunch of (Jewish) secularists. Fear and strength and Jewishness were themes of the rally. And so its tone was fascistic: a gathering of a militant ethnic community to support strong leaders who would defend an old order against all change. Ariel Sharon has turned into a leftwinger in death in the views of the people in the crowd, because he gave up Gaza. While Daniella Weiss looks backward nearly 50 years: the political moment in Israel is 1967 all over again, she said. Jews are afraid they are going to be pushed into the sea. The appeasers could let this happen. It is time for another great victory and renewal.

Religion ran through the event. Many speakers alluded to the charge by a centrist Israeli cultural leader that the rightwing are “mezuzah-kissers”– reference to the scriptural scroll that religious Jews mount in their door-jambs. Netanyahu began his remarks by taking on the charge.

What’s the problem with kissing a mezuzah? Since when is it a sin that we keep up the Jewish tradition? We believe in our eternal beliefs and we want to secure the Jewish future in Israel.

You would think from the rally’s spirit that Herzog and Livni are nihilists and revolutionaries. Of course they are not. They are not committed to anything beyond the idea of talking to the Palestinians. They have made no promises to give up land or even stop the settlement project. Herzog has said he will continue to build inside the settlement blocs. And going to this rally shows you why. The Jewish nationalist attitudes on view in the sea of head coverings and kippas are deeply imbedded in the Israeli Jewish people.

We may lose on Tuesday: that was the bitter spirit of the rally. Still we are a major force inside Israeli life, they were saying, and in losing they are making a claim on the Israeli political spirit.

The Israeli center won’t run explicitly against the settlers. It is running against Netanyahu’s divisive presence, his failure in Washington, and on economic issues. It will likely win on these issues.

But the rally in Tel Aviv was a declaration of the living spirit of Zionism. The settlers in Jerusalem and in the West Bank are only doing what Zionists did when they came to Palestine in the first place. They are, they reminded us, the soul of Israel. On Tuesday the center will win. But it will take great care not to contest these beliefs.

Philip Weiss

Philip Weiss is Founder and Co-Editor of Mondoweiss.net.

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  1. SallySnyder on March 16, 2015, 7:20 am

    Here is an article that looks at a history of the Likud party and three of Benjamin Netanyahu’s more interesting campaign commercials:

    http://tinyurl.com/k2b7xkq

    Like politicians around the world, Netanyahu is using fear to motivate voters.

  2. W.Jones on March 16, 2015, 8:04 am

    So are you saying that the right wing parties are in effect going to form the coalition with Kadima and Labor?

    http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/netanyahuglasses.jpg

    It does not feel likely, although I assume that Likud will get less seats than Herzog.

  3. jon s on March 16, 2015, 8:18 am

    Phil presumes to know the election result- “the center will win”.
    I wish I was that certain. A day before the end of what has been a dramatic election campaign, full of unexpected twists and turns, and the truth is : nobody knows.
    There are so many unknowns: the Arab turnout? the Haredi vote? the “Russian ” vote? Kahlon? Lapid? the Left? So many factors in the equation…
    One significant development has been the emergence of Isaac Herzog as a credible candidate for PM. He was regarded as having a rather pareve personality, something of a wimp, a politician who never even made any enemies, lacking the fire-in-the-belly needed to rise to the highest elected office. Now it looks like he’s found a way to ignite that fire and deliver an effective message . He’s run on a message of change and hope, while Netanyahu plays on fear and more fear.
    Herzog is no revolutionary, no radical, but if he’s somehow able to form a government, we will at least have some hope, it may be a turning point.
    I’ll be voting for Meretz. Here’s hoping.

    • Mooser on March 16, 2015, 11:14 am

      “Herzog is no revolutionary, no radical, but if he’s somehow able to form a government, we will at least have some hope,”

      Hope away. Naturally, you can’t, or won’t tell us what you are hoping for. But you are hoping.

      • amigo on March 16, 2015, 5:28 pm

        “Hope away. Naturally, you can’t, or won’t tell us what you are hoping for. But you are hoping. -“Mooser.

        I am hoping to live long enough to seethe Irish soccer team win a world cup.That ought to be enough time to see the end of Zionism but please don,t ask me to choose between the two .

        Decisions , decisions.

    • seafoid on March 16, 2015, 11:24 am

      I think it’s pretty hopeless.
      Unless Madonna can come and lure the settlers back behind the green line somehow.

      Greater Israel is the country that Ariel Sharon built. For better or worse. Far worse.
      Sharon brutalised Israeli society in his own image with plenty of help from labor and the Likud.
      Expecting things to take a hopeful turn now is deluded.

      • Mooser on March 16, 2015, 11:45 am

        Turns out Netanyahoo and Herzog had a little meet up at a TV interview.
        Remember, the write-up is by Josh Marshall of TPM,

      • ritzl on March 16, 2015, 1:54 pm

        Thanks, Mooser. Interesting. Makes national unity seem less likely. But then, they’re both consummate pols trying to strike a difference (but not too much of a difference).

      • Mooser on March 16, 2015, 2:21 pm

        Don’t forget, Marshall is doing his best to make this seem an ordinary election (if somewhat contentious) in a normal country. And am I mistaken, is there one word he doesn’t say in the entire article, maybe two?

    • jon s on March 16, 2015, 3:07 pm

      Breaking news: Tzipi Livni has given up on the rotation agreement with Herzog.
      With the election just a few hours away, she realized that some potential Zionist Camp voters regard her as a liability. So she announced that she won’t insist on the rotation if Herzog forms a government.
      It’s a risky move.

    • on March 16, 2015, 4:22 pm

      What we do know is that Israel will continue to build news settlements, continue to oppress the indigenous people who are not Jews, continue to put her hand in the pocket of the American taxpayer, continue to reward the USA’s protection and generosity by calling our pols anti–semites and naïfs, will again attack Gaza, will continue to push us towards war with Iran, will continue to thumb its nose at international law and the UN…..for as long as the Lobby has the US political class in its pocket.

      And the mainstream media will continue to ignore Palestinians and present a twisted, favorable image of Zionism while running its nearly daily Holocaust Stories.

      No matter who is elected in Israel.

  4. just on March 16, 2015, 8:31 am

    “I had to wonder: Why did Obama ever meet with this man, let alone meet with him more than a dozen times? Why didn’t he just say, You know my number, when you are willing to cut a deal, call me? The US press which also presumes to support the idea of two states never asked this question.” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/03/soldiers-jerusalem-netanyahu#sthash.UZ1YVzgu.dpuf

    Well put, and nearly exactly what I thought when I read his remarks last night and wrote:

    “Bornajoo~ now that it is completely out in the open and most of us know that nobody else will do differently, it is time for citizens to lobby their governments to impose sanctions on Israel, withhold $$$, withhold the veto, and more. No more visits, no more daily phone calls, no more “peace” industry as it has been conducted. Treat them like the outlaw state that they are.

    Period.”

    – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/recent-comments#sthash.vzrX6Vt0.dpuf

    Daniella Weiss was given the microphone and a platform, and that was the beginning of the unmasking. The rally was a rally for continuation/escalation of illegal and cruel practices. It was Israeli extremism laid bare~ an extremism that is apparently mainstream.

  5. Citizen on March 16, 2015, 8:41 am

    Why should much less tribal America, more principled America, spend what’s left of its once high reputation in the world, spend its blood and treasure in behalf of Netanyahu and his lebensraum addicts? Because America also originated as a settler nation? That was before Nuremberg, Trials, Tokyo Trials and their Geneva progeny. Do we look to the era of cave men for our ethical/moral inspiration?

  6. Krauss on March 16, 2015, 8:41 am

    The largest party may be the centrist Zionist Union but they will not win.

    The only reasonable way to get to a coalition is with Likud and Bibi won’t want that. The only way forward is if Bibi is ousted but there is nobody from the inside capable of taking the mantle right now.

    Bibi has options outside Labor, and Labor does not have options outside Bibi since they won’t sit with Arabs. Thus, Bibi will win. All else is a sideshow.

  7. Kathleen on March 16, 2015, 8:55 am

    Will anything change for the Palestinians if Netanyahu loses? As you point out Livni and Herzog have not promised anything beyond talking with the Palestinians.

  8. Kay24 on March 16, 2015, 8:55 am

    That was Netanyahu unplugged. NOT interested in adhering to international laws, stubbornly sticking to his flawed judgement, and absolutely not giving an inch of stolen land back to the victims he stole from. He has led the Obama administration on a wild goose chase, pretending all along that he was interested in peace. His arrogance when he referred to not giving in to US pressure, is unbelievable. All this, and our idiotic congress keeps showing this hateful man with unwavering support. Perhaps they wish HE was their President. After all they (especially the GOP) love arrogant, lying, war mongers.

    • Atlantaiconoclast on March 16, 2015, 9:14 am

      I share your antipathy toward the Republicans. However I don’t understand the pass given to the Democratic Party. Many Democrats in the Congress kiss Netanyahu’s butt on a regular basis and show no willingness to even consider the plight of the Palestinians. Both parties are the problem. And President Obama is a warmonger too. Hello, Libya, Syria , the regular drone attacks, the support for Israel when it attacks Palestinians, the demonization of Russia in the Ukrainian situation, Victoria Nuland in his DOS? Obama is in fact neocon lite.

      • Kay24 on March 16, 2015, 9:33 am

        I agree with many things you have said. OF COURSE the Democrats are just as bad as the Republicans when it comes to Israel, but the last fiasco was mainly because Boehner, the GOP, and let’s not forget the 47 Republicans who thought they should show their disloyalty to their own President, and writing directly to Iranian leaders.

        I am totally disappointed with Obama when it comes to the drones, and also the unbelievable support he keeps giving to Israel. I simply made my comment in response to the article, which was about Netanyahu, and his stinking attitude.

      • kma on March 16, 2015, 11:04 pm

        Atlantaiconoclast:
        I think you are right. The whole hoopla over elections is a circus, just like the US where we will have Hillary vs The Same Old.
        Lots of people will pay lots of attention to it and stay up all night to see which way it goes, but nothing will change. Both countries will end up with administrations that belong in prison.
        At least in the US, the people aren’t clamoring for an ethnic cleansing. BDS is what matters right now.

    • RockyMissouri on March 16, 2015, 10:59 am

      TRUTH! Thank you.

  9. eljay on March 16, 2015, 9:08 am

    The Israeli center won’t run explicitly against the settlers. It is running against Netanyahu’s divisive presence, his failure in Washington, and on economic issues. It will likely win on these issues.

    But the rally in Tel Aviv was a declaration of the living spirit of Zionism. The settlers in Jerusalem and in the West Bank are only doing what Zionists did when they came to Palestine in the first place. They are, they reminded us, the soul of Israel. On Tuesday the center will win. But it will take great care not to contest these beliefs.

    Hard-core, full-on, unapologetically hateful and immoral Zio-supremacism vs. a kinder, gentler “Zio-supremacism lite”: Either way, justice, accountability and equality are ignored and Palestinians are screwed.

    • JulianaFarha on March 16, 2015, 9:50 am

      Exactly. I’m as worried about a Netanyahu loss as a win. If he loses everyone will take their eye off the ball and we’ll be back to where we started: nowhere. A pretend peace process belied by facts on the ground. No end to the Gaza siege and an unsustainable status quo, to which the only and inevitable response will be more aggression. In short, a rehabilitation of the myth of Israeli democracy and the erasure of the inconvenient Palestinian narrative.

  10. Sycamores on March 16, 2015, 9:32 am

    watch out Ireland and Britain, Naftali Bennett is coming for you…

    “The land of Israel belongs to the people of Israel… From Brussels to Washington..”

    rumours has it that Jon Voight will be playing Netanyahu in what surely will be a summers blockbuster ‘King Bibi’. in a leak youtube video Jon Voight was caught learning his lines for the upcoming movie..

    … US President Barack Obama does not love Israel, and aims to “control Israel, and this way he can be friends with all of Israel’s enemies.”

    http://www.jpost.com/Israel-Elections/Jon-Voight-backs-Netanyahu-says-Obama-doesnt-love-Israel-393956

    • Kay24 on March 16, 2015, 9:51 am

      I wish these Israel firsters would simply pack up and leave to the nation they profess to love, and are constantly supporting, right or wrong. They seem to have a sick love for that nation, and will even attack an American President, just to show their support for that apartheid nation.

      • on March 16, 2015, 4:23 pm

        Kay24. Absolutely. Without them we would not be in the mess we are in in the Middle East and financially.

  11. catalan on March 16, 2015, 9:58 am

    even attack an American President” Kay
    The American president has not become a deity yet despite American fascination with the late Roman republic. Attacking him is perfectly legal, one might even say a civic duty. Elsewise why not move to Venezuela?

    • Kay24 on March 16, 2015, 12:37 pm

      Perhaps you did not read my comment properly. I did not question the legality of attacking the President. Of course anyone can, and they do….I was merely pointing out that even when it comes to supporting their own President and his policies, they seem to prefer to support an alien one, who is pushing us into wars, over their own President who wants to avoid one, as we can see when it comes to the Iranian issue.
      As I mentioned before, if they love Netanyahu so much, and that parasitic nation, they should simply move over there, after all they seem to be comfortable with Netanyahu and applaud his war mongering ways, conveniently ignoring the fact that if we naively went to war, like Beebs wants us to, it will the US who will have to pay for it dearly.

  12. David Doppler on March 16, 2015, 10:10 am

    Honoring scripture is not going to end with Netanyahu’s tenure in office, or peace, at long last. Why you equate them, as the Israeli right wing is doing, is beyond me. You wrote yesterday that Herzog and Netanyahu were likely to share power. I think you were wrong then: the election has been made explicitly about the Likud trajectory of expanding settlements, mowing the grass, and lying about the “peace process” to the gullible Americans – a failed trajectory that has run out of steam. I think the right gets put in the opposition, and a broad centrist coalition leads the only program that will end BDS and restore Israel’s place in the international community, all the while accomplishing real social progress for ordinary Israelis. The crazy right wingers become the crusty old Westerners no longer fighting Indians, a curiosity among younger people growing up in civilization.

    • Mooser on March 16, 2015, 1:40 pm

      “The crazy right wingers become the crusty old Westerners no longer fighting Indians, a curiosity among younger people growing up in civilization.”

      I get it! So it’ll be “reservations” and the Bureau of Palestinian Affairs for the Palestinians?

      “and a broad centrist coalition leads the only program that will end BDS and restore Israel’s place in the international community, all the while accomplishing real social progress for ordinary Israelis.”

      Just to be sure, I, a crass juvenile fool, understand you, David, “the only program which will end BDS and” (okay ROTFL at this point “restore?”) is getting rid of the occupation and the settlements, right? That is what you are talking about, isn’t it? And all the discriminatory laws, too? And compensation? And Jerusalem?
      That is indeed what you are talking about? Cause you don’t really say, or I don’t get it.

  13. Susie Kneedler on March 16, 2015, 10:14 am

    “Fear and strength and Jewishness were themes of the rally. And so its tone was fascistic.”

    Wow, Phil, the best summary of Zionism yet. Whew, Thanks. (+ Thanks to All for great Comments– + + I know none of us ‘d wish a single other “Zio-Firster” on the brave people of Palestine … ;) . )

  14. seafoid on March 16, 2015, 11:28 am

    “The Jewish nation is 4000 years old. For 2000 years we fought for a state in our land. For 2000 years we fought to go back to our land and now we are fighting to stay in our land. To stay in Jerusalem. That gives me strength to fight. That is my mission. That is our mission.”

    for about 60 years they had a state in “their land”
    For the rest they didn’t.
    Mean reversion to apply

    • a blah chick on March 16, 2015, 4:14 pm

      They’ve been making up s*** for years.

    • Walid on March 16, 2015, 4:30 pm

      I saw an interview with Ahmad Tibi tonight; he’s all smiles especially in light of the latest polls that show his group will be the 3rd largest if not the 2nd in the Knesset after Lieberman ‘s law and that the polls are showing Liberman’s group among the lowest in numbers and maybe even seeing Lieberman himself defeated. Seems that the Palestinians will be voting massively.
      Tibi is not refusing any alliances at this point and he said he was open to any advances that would include a cabinet post.

      Definitely not a happy St Pat’s for Netanyahu tomorrow.

      • just on March 16, 2015, 4:41 pm

        Thanks for that wee bit o’ cheer, Walid!

      • amigo on March 16, 2015, 5:03 pm

        “Definitely not a happy St Pat’s for Netanyahu tomorrow. “Walid.

        Walid , St Pat will be busy in Israel , casting out all the snakes.Including Tony (poodle) blair.

      • just on March 16, 2015, 5:10 pm

        You’re especially witty today, amigo.

        It’s always appreciated.

      • Walid on March 16, 2015, 5:55 pm

        A happy St Patrick’ to you, amigo, seafoid and to all the Irish and to those that are Irish in their hearts like Mooser.

      • amigo on March 16, 2015, 6:16 pm

        A happy St Patrick’ to you, amigo, seafoid and to all the Irish and to those that are Irish in their hearts like Mooser. ”

        Walid , thanks.

        On a negative note, I wonder if Samantha ,(give me ) Power will be ragging the Irish Taoiseach,s , (PM) ear in the white House.Will she work on him to attempt to change the minds of all his anti semitic subjects.

        Btw , here is one Hollywood mezuzah kisser who wont be invited to the festivities.

        http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2015/03/15/jon-voight-president-obama-doesnt-love-israel/

  15. eljay on March 16, 2015, 11:44 am

    || King Bibi: The Jewish nation is 4000 years old. … ||

    Except for when it’s been 3,000 years old and 2,000 years old.

    || For 2000 years we fought for a state in our land. ||

    1. Palestine wasn’t your land.
    2. No, you didn’t. You spent 2,000 years praying and dreaming for a supremacist “Jewish State” in Palestine.

    || For 2000 years we fought to go back to our land … ||

    Palestine wasn’t your land.

    || … and now we are fighting to stay in our land. To stay in Jerusalem. ||

    Palestine wasn’t your land but, since 1948, Partition-borders Israel has been your land. You are Israelis, and what you’re fighting for is:
    – to keep and stay in the territory you’ve occupied and colonized outside of your (Partition) borders; and
    – to ensure that Israel remains a supremacist “Jewish State” rather than transforming into a secular and democratic Israeli state of and for all of your citizens, immigrants, ex-pats [sic] and refugees, equally.

    • Kathleen on March 16, 2015, 4:20 pm

      Kiss his ring and his ass

    • piotr on March 17, 2015, 12:19 am

      It reminds me a story of my late father, imagine Warsaw around 1930, conversation in Yiddish. A customer to coal seller: (this is how folks heated apartments, with coal in stoves) “This is outrageous, this 50 kg basket of coal weights at most 35 kg!” “Nobody puts more than 40 kg in 50 kg basket! Why you make such huge noise for measly 5 kg!”

      Nobody reports history with accuracy better than 1000 years! But if you intend to be picky, according to leading historians/archaeologists, formation of first Hebrew tribes occurred between 1200 and 1000 BC, after a period of almost total collapse of sedentary life in Palestine away from the coast (that became populated by the Philistines). As there were no inhabited villages and town, there was no conquest, just indigenous population returning to sedentary life after 100 years of drought, with new techniques (so they were archaeologically recognizable). Then some tribal states were created, with David and Solomon surely being tall story adding grandeur to royal ancestry (contemporary Greeks preferred to have Zeus or Heracles among the ancestors), so-called “united monarchy” is simply a legend to “prove” superiority of Judah which was not possible around that time — Judah was settled after more northern regions, as the drought ended there later. So the “history of Jews” has some legendary periods, plus 3000 years, at most.

      Of those years, we have to subtract Babylonian exile, so surely well under 1000 years of dwelling in Judah before almost all Jews departed, The idea that you can schlep around the world and then claim “ancestral lands” as your own is bizarre beyond comparison. Anglo-Saxons to Saxony and Angeln (allegedly, also northern Germany) to accomodate Welch diaspora returning home and recreating Arthurian kingdom. Bring back the Camelot!

      • Walid on March 17, 2015, 1:55 am

        “… we have to subtract Babylonian exile…” (piotr)

        Why wasn’t it called the “Persian exile” or the “Persian captivity”?

      • RoHa on March 17, 2015, 5:40 am

        The Welsh? Those blasted interlopers took over the country from the Beaker Folk.. Send all the Celts back to Central Europe. That’s their homeland.

        (I recall that few years ago a genetic study found that a lot of English people were direct descendants of pre-Celtic Inhabitants. They just mixed with everyone else who arrived.)

      • bryan on March 17, 2015, 5:44 am

        Piotr – you are demanding ridiculously high standards of rigour. If Zionism hopelessly misinterprets the last century of history, how do you expect it to cope with the last millenium or two? Surprising though how the international media never question the travesty of history (and archaeology) presented by Zionism with its Abrahamic covenant, its Exodus fairy tale, its City of David, its eternal undivided Jerusalem, its forced exile and all the other nonsense.

      • catalan on March 17, 2015, 9:10 am

        The idea that you can schlep around the world and then claim “ancestral lands” – Piotr
        And yet that’s exactly the claim that Polish nationalists made when they took over Stettin and the rest of East Prussia. I understand you wanted even Hamburg. What was that about glasshouses?

      • OyVey00 on March 17, 2015, 10:07 am

        >And yet that’s exactly the claim that Polish nationalists made when they took over Stettin and the rest of East Prussia. I understand you wanted even Hamburg. What was that about glasshouses?

        Assuming Polish nationalists had any say in the partition of Germany after WWII lol

  16. Pauline on March 16, 2015, 11:50 am

    So if Bougie & Tzipi beat Bibi, what difference will it make, really? Not much, because the Zionist project of the dispossession of the Palestinian people will continue even if the ‘Left’ wins; it’ll just proceed more slowly & cautiously, lulling liberal American Zionists into a false sense of progress. So maybe a Netanyahu victory would actually be better in that it would push Israel faster in the direction of a one-state solution. If you’re voting in the Israeli election, consider voting for the Joint List~!

  17. Kris on March 16, 2015, 12:32 pm

    Off topic, but I think many of us would like to see this, which is the complete episode: http://www.travelchannel.com/shows/breaking-borders/video/mother-of-all-conflicts (To see it, I had to scroll down and click on the link under the thumbnail photo of this episode.)

    :“Breaking Borders” follows Peabody Award-winning journalist Mariana van Zeller and acclaimed chef Michael Voltaggio as they travel to conflict zones around the globe with a unique and challenging goal: to gather people from all sides of the conflicts for an amazing meal and animated discussion in search of common ground and hope for the future. In the series premiere, airing on Sunday, March 15 at 9:00pm ET/PT, van Zeller and Voltaggio travel to the Holy Land to get a better grasp of the current Israel-Palestinian conflict. A Palestinian bookstore owner, an Israeli Peace Now activist and a few Jewish settlers debate the “mother of all conflicts” over a kosher meal at a controversial settlement in the West Bank.”

    • just on March 16, 2015, 1:52 pm

      Here’s the link, Kris:

      http://www.travelchannel.com/shows/breaking-borders/video/mother-of-all-conflicts

      Well worth the time, imho.

      • ritzl on March 16, 2015, 3:24 pm

        Wow! Thanks Kris and just.

        What an exceptional piece. Bourdain sort of tried this, but never at the same table, iirc. This was some blunt dinner conversation and tense body language. Personally, it showed who was crazy and/or covetous and who wasn’t.

        The hosts were amazingly and unapologetically factual and direct, both in word and video (Hebron garbage throwers, etc.). Having that background info presented as uncontested fact, as the context for a dinner discussion was worth the watch all by itself.

        One suggestion to the producers (like they’ll read this), just once I’d like to see it suggested that such a meal would be halal, and film the production “negotiations.”

        Or heck, just flip the whole deal. Halal at a table in Bil’in.

        You’re right, just. Well worth the time.

      • just on March 16, 2015, 3:43 pm

        I had to watch it last night before I dared mention it. I didn’t want to link to some fluff piece. This was no fluff piece. I was pleasantly surprised to see what the finished product was. As I said on another thread, they looked liked they were honestly trying to achieve “balance”, but the truth just could not be hidden~ there is no balance.

        I was struck by so much~ including the parade of ‘Jewish tourists’ accompanied by the IOF, and the resultant & obvious horror of the 2 hosts.

        It should open more than a few eyes. The Travel Channel reaches millions.

      • annie on March 16, 2015, 4:26 pm

        awesome, i will check it out.

      • just on March 16, 2015, 4:32 pm

        Please excuse my typo @ 3:43 pm. I meant to write ‘like’ rather than ‘liked’, of course.

        (for those that are monitoring grammar and spelling…)

        Hope you find it helpful, Annie.

      • Walid on March 16, 2015, 4:45 pm

        “Please excuse my typo @ 3:43 pm”

        Relax, RoHa is still sound asleep at this time. You’re safe.

      • just on March 16, 2015, 4:53 pm

        Not RoHa…….

      • amigo on March 16, 2015, 4:56 pm

        “As I said on another thread, they looked liked they” Just

        Just , how can we take you seriously if you cannot grasp basic English.?.

        Get a grip.You know the rules.

      • Walid on March 16, 2015, 5:27 pm

        I’d rather be policed by RoHa than by Catalan.

      • just on March 16, 2015, 5:32 pm

        No kidding!

        The additional bonus is that I value RoHa’s intellect, wealth of knowledge, and style/personality.

      • RoHa on March 17, 2015, 5:09 am

        Why, thank you, just.

        But take care with your commas.

    • Interested Bystander on March 16, 2015, 9:06 pm

      Thanks Kris and Just. I liked the Bourdain, but I think this is a step above.

      • just on March 16, 2015, 10:10 pm

        I thought it the best that I’ve seen on mainstream tv, IB.

  18. Kay24 on March 16, 2015, 12:53 pm

    Apparently Bob Schieffer gave Tom Cotton a hard time by asking him if he would write to North Korea too. Good question.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/bob-schieffer-asks-tom-cotton-will-you-write-north-korea

    • ritzl on March 16, 2015, 1:48 pm

      Heh, Kay24. Isn’t what actually happened with NK is that we had a deal with mutual performance conditions, they kept their part, we reneged, and they went ahead and developed a bomb?

      Cotton and his brethren/influencers seem to think that’s the way this process is supposed to work. That reneging is a good thing.

      Bizarre, and oh so disastrously normal.

    • MRW on March 16, 2015, 6:26 pm

      I liked the New Hampshire editorial that said something like this: Can you imagine how outraged the Republicans would have been if a bunch of “petty Democrats” had written to Gorbachev while Reagan was negotiating the nuclear talks and told Gorby he shouldn’t trust Reagan and that Congress could undo everything once Reagan left office. (The editorial said it better than my paraphrasing here.)

      • Kay24 on March 16, 2015, 10:14 pm

        Ritzl and MR, it is indeed bizarre, and it shows a mind set that is so hard to fathom. I think it is the campaign contributions from AIPAC and other pro Israeli entities, that make them become unbelievably unreasonable.

        Imagine if the Democrats had written such a disgusting letter to Saddam Hussein.

        The zio neos would have gone berserk.

      • marc b. on March 17, 2015, 9:55 am

        it is indeed bizarre, and it shows a mind set that is so hard to fathom.

        Weiss used the word elsewhere in this post: nihilism. that’s what most people just don’t grasp. they think that the tearing down, and on the economic side, the ‘laissez faire’ nonsense, is a means to some other end. it isn’t. the destruction is the goal. unrestrained corporate malfeasance is the goal. psychopaths like senator polyester don’t have a solution to the ‘Iran problem’. their desire is the continuation of the ME teetering on a precipice.

    • bintbiba on March 16, 2015, 7:50 pm

      ‘Just @ 5;32 pm

      don’t we all …?

      RoHa has ‘carte blanche’ as far as most of us are concerned, I would imagine, ….no ?

      • just on March 16, 2015, 8:06 pm

        RoHa is a wonderful contributor, bintbiba.

  19. JLewisDickerson on March 16, 2015, 12:53 pm

    RE: “The defiant spirit of the Jewish settler movement was the theme of the rally. The Arab List that could lend support to a centrist coalition government was the enemy, mentioned only once or twice. The nationalists here deny the Palestinian presence in the land any way that they can.” ~ Weiss

    SEE: “The Pied Piper of Doom; The Apocalypticism of Benjamin Netanyahu”, by Lawrence Davidson, CounterPunch.org, March 6-8, 2015

    [EXCERPTS] . . . Netanyahu, and indeed all Zionists of his sort, are committed ideologues. In other words, they do not start with objectively investigated facts as the basis of their worldview. Rather they start with an ideology (Zionism) with which all interpretations of the outside world must be made to conform [much like a cult – J.L.D.]. Zionism insists on the absolute right to a Jewish state in all of Palestine. For the true believer, anything that might stand in the way of this right must be fought without compromise. That is why there can be no compromise peace with the Palestinians. Their willingness to accept compromise must be ignored or denied. . .

    . . . People who are ideologically fixated can be like this – delusional and obsessive. In the ordinary workaday world they may or may not be annoying. However, if you give them power, their potential goes far beyond annoying to the point of being downright dangerous. That is where we are at with Benjamin Netanyahu. . .

    ENTIRE COMMENTARY – http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/03/06/the-apocalypticism-of-benjamin-netanyahu/

  20. just on March 16, 2015, 2:05 pm

    NPR news just reported that Netanyahu says there will be no Palestinian state… I just googled it, and it seems that everybody is reporting it now, within the last hour.

    I hope that the PTB and regular folks are paying special attention to the war criminal, thief and liar- in- chief.

    (that’s not to say that any of the other Zionists running can be trusted to do any differently.)

    • Ellen on March 16, 2015, 3:02 pm

      Yes, this is so: nettyanhoo has come out and told the world what we know already — the Zionist project will do everything it can to make sure there is never ever a Palestinian state or sovergn government. So we can all stop pretending now.

      The entire peace negotiations cottage industry, including Fatah, are now irrelevant.

      Now the Americans and Europe can continue in their support of Israel’s decades long effort to remove or destroy the other, or just walk away from the Zionist enterprise and leave Isreal to itself.

      To the horror of the world and many many Israelis, we know what lies ahead when paranoid and racist forces take over a country. The world will then wash their hands of Zionism and the Zionist state.

      Meanwhile, The Saudis are grudgingly preparing themselves for life with normalized relations with Iran.

      Netanyahu will not and cannot adjust. He will go for broke and destroy “his” country with the help of fellow fanatics. Announcing this to the world is the first of many steps he has to take to complete the Zionist vision. He does not need to pretend now.

      He has a good chance of victory in the elections. And with his victory, what will he have to do next to make sure Palestinians have no state, no rights to assure the Zionist dream?

    • Bornajoo on March 16, 2015, 5:40 pm

      “I hope that the PTB and regular folks are paying special attention to the war criminal, thief and liar- in- chief.”

      Just, this is why it’s important he stays in power. All of this will be whitewashed and conveniently forgotten if he loses power. We need him back in power with all this additional damage. Isolation and pressure will be accelerated in my opinion.

      • just on March 16, 2015, 6:02 pm

        Exactly, Bornajoo.

  21. eljay on March 16, 2015, 2:34 pm

    || just: NPR news just reported that Netanyahu says there will be no Palestinian state… ||

    Netanyahu Says No Palestinian State if He Is Re-Elected

    “I think that anyone who is going to establish a Palestinian state today and evacuate lands, is giving attack grounds to the radical Islam against the state of Israel,” he said in a video interview published on the NRG website. “Anyone who ignores this is sticking his head in the sand. The left does this time and time again. We are realistic and understand.”

    Asked if he meant that a Palestinian state would not be established if he were to continue as Israel’s prime minister, Mr. Netanyahu replied: “Correct.”

    Next steps:
    – utterly subjugate non-Jews in the supremacist “Jewish State” of (Greater) Israel;
    – drive them out of their homes and lands (again); and/or
    – destroy them.

    But only until “currently its [sic] not necessary”.

  22. Colonel Blimp on March 16, 2015, 2:41 pm

    The doom of a nation can be averted only by a storm of flowing passion, but only those who are passionate themselves can arouse passion in others.

    Adolf Hitler

  23. just on March 16, 2015, 3:09 pm

    Not entirely O/T. Should have happened long ago, but:

    “Good riddance, Tony Blair – you’ve been tolerated as Middle East envoy for too long

    Blair’s stint as the Quartet’s representative has been a tragic waste, focused more on business than on peace between Palestinians and Israelis

    On 27 June 2007, Tony Blair stepped down as Britain’s prime minister and as an MP, and took up an appointment as Middle East envoy for the Quartet, a diplomatic group consisting of the United Nations, the European Union, the United States and Russia. Eight years on, it looks as though the US secretary of state, John Kerry, has pulled the plug on the mission – not a moment too soon.

    For years, it’s been clear that Blair in the Middle East is at best a passenger and at worst a liability.
    …..
    The first reason is that his mandate has largely limited him to helping the Palestinian economy. His predecessor, James Wolfensohn, an Australian-born, former World Bank president, was limited by the same mandate, and that’s why he resigned. Wolfensohn shared the opinion of business people such as Lord (Clive) Hollick and informed journalists such as Le Monde’s Laurent Zecchini and Israeli affairs specialist Max Blumenthal: that progress in peace talks comes first, and only when they have delivered some sort of stability will private investment follow.

    Palestinian negotiator Hanan Ashrawi told me: “Jim Wolfensohn resigned because he is a man of great principle and courage who did not want to be used. They had to find someone who would play the game, and Tony Blair accepted the role.”
    …..
    The fourth reason for Blair’s failure is that he has not made sufficient attempts to get the Palestinians on board. Where he has stepped outside the mandate, it has been one-sided, in praise of Israel. His outspoken attacks on Islam, and his periodic calls for more war in the Middle East, are perhaps acceptable from a former prime minister with an involvement in faith debates and no current public responsibilities, but not from the Middle East envoy.

    The letter to Hillary Clinton also shows that Blair could have moved into the political realm if he had wanted to, because in private he makes disparaging comments about the Palestinian security apparatus. Yet he has chosen not to do the one thing that Wolfensohn believed could make his mission mean something. No wonder exasperated members of the Palestinian Authority have called him “useless, useless, useless”.

    Blair has lasted this long as the Quartet’s envoy only because the Israelis could be sure he would never bring them unwelcome news, and because he symbolised a comforting untruth to which American negotiators cling: that private-sector investment in Palestine can be used as a path to a two-state solution. The Quartet should now look for someone who will make peace their top priority.”

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/16/tony-blair-middle-east-envoy-quartet-business-palestinians-israelis#comment-49002959

    Looks like a lot of truths are being revealed…

    • Walid on March 16, 2015, 4:01 pm

      Just, the super lucrative job was given to Blair by Bush as his payback for having unconditionlly supported every US move on Afghanistan and especially Iraq. He made a bundle in that position and was heavily involved in almost every big del that the Palestinians entered into such as the gas deals over Gaza and the West Bank.

      He wasn’t any more credible as an unbiased negotiator as were the Zionists Indyk and Ross on behalf of the Americans. He replaced the other Bush hand-picked nominee, Wolfensohn.

      • just on March 16, 2015, 4:07 pm

        Yep, Walid.
        ————

        “Chuck Norris facts: The iconic action hero endorses Netanyahu (again)

        In endorsement clip, Norris says:’It’s so important to keep a leader who has the courage and vision to stand up against the evil forces that are threatening not only Israel, but the United States.’

        JTA – Could Chuck Norris come to Benjamin Netanyahu’s rescue in tomorrow’s election?

        Probably not. But that didn’t stop the 75-year-old action hero-turned-Internet-meme icon from endorsing the Israeli prime minister on his official Facebook page.

        Norris shilling for Netanyahu is far from surprising. The actor has endorsed the center-right politician in the past and once said that while “you might think I’m a tough guy from my films … Israel has its own tough guy and his name is Bibi Netanyahu.”

        Over the past three decades, Norris has also donated over $30,000 to Republican politicians, including Mike Huckabee, whom he endorsed for president in 2007. In 2012, he warned the public that reelecting President Barack Obama would bring on “1000 years of darkness.””

        http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel-election-2015/1.647266?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

        lolol! Schmuck.

      • amigo on March 16, 2015, 4:46 pm

        “lolol! Schmuck.” just

        You mean , Schmuck Norris.

      • just on March 16, 2015, 4:54 pm

        Cheers amigo!

        lol

      • amigo on March 16, 2015, 5:35 pm

        “lolol! Schmuck.”Just.

        Correction–Schmuck Norris and Jon Void.

      • just on March 16, 2015, 5:56 pm

        That one made my screen an Earl Grey special!

  24. eGuard on March 16, 2015, 3:26 pm

    Note that Zionist Camp did not promise anything for the Palestinians either.

    Making peace would be breaking their election promise, then. This time they won’t lie to the voters.

  25. a blah chick on March 16, 2015, 4:27 pm

    The whole “does he support a one/start, two/state” reminds me of a great skit Dave Chappelle did on R Kelly’s troubles. No matter how much indesputable visual evidence the trusting black folk on the jury saw they continued to give Kelly the benefit of the doubt, because they liked him too much.

    How much clearer does Butcher Bibi have to be before people “get it.”

  26. ritzl on March 16, 2015, 5:17 pm

    In glaring contrast to these losers, the biggest contribution to the Israeli political collective that Ayman Odeh makes is a LACK of victimhood. He positively exudes it, imho. How can an Arab, or maybe better, how an Arab can grow up in Israel and come out with such an outward-looking, embracing mentality is astonishing and refreshing.

    (I think I just answered my own question. He had to.)

    Imagine all the philosophical and aspirational doors that release can open/unblock — to the benefit and well being of Israel, its neighbors, and the planet.

    This kind of hybrid-ization of strength and desire that Odeh represents is the future of Israel. At least I hope it is.

  27. JLewisDickerson on March 16, 2015, 7:36 pm

    RE: “At a rally of the hard right wing in Tel Aviv he [Netanyahu] bragged about never giving in to Washington’s pressure to give up Jewish land. He had never evacuated settlers and he will never evacuate settlers, he said. . . Why did Obama ever meet with this man, let alone meet with him more than a dozen times? Why didn’t he just say, You know my number, when you are willing to cut a deal, call me?” ~ Weiss

    MY COMMENT: As I understand it, Ehud Barak (the “good cop”) convinced the Obama Administration that he would be able to “handle” Benyamin Netanyahu (the “bad cop”).
    Needless to say, the administration was sorely disappointed.
    Just as many “suspects” over the years have suffered the consequences of falling for the old good cop/bad cop routine.

    Good cop/bad cop – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_cop/bad_cop

    P.S. SPEAKING OF COPS:
    Chuck Norris endorses Benjamin Netanyahu – http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/chuck-norris-benjamin-netanyahu-116113.html

  28. MRW on March 16, 2015, 8:35 pm

    Actually, part of me wants Netanyahu to win after the NY Times finally admitted what it’s known all along:

    “Under pressure on the eve of a surprisingly close election, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel on Monday doubled down on his appeal to right-wing voters, declaring definitively that if he was returned to office he would never establish a Palestinian state .

    The statement reversed Mr. Netanyahu’s endorsement of a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in a 2009 speech at Bar Ilan University, and fulfilled many world leaders’ suspicions that he was never really serious about peace negotiations. If he manages to eke out a fourth term, the new stance would further fray Mr. Netanyahu’s ruinous relationship with the Obama administration and heighten tension with European countries already frustrated with the stalled peace process.”

    I want to watch the train wreck. Liberman brandishing his axe so he can behead Palestinians. Gotta see that splashed on TV here. I want to hear the rabid Israel-Firsters defend Netanyahu and his craziness. I want to hear Netanyahu being asked by Bob Schieffer if he lied about the Palestinian state, what about Iran? Was he lying about that as well?

    What’s the Hebrew for Cry Wolf? In Latin letters. Maybe Freier Bibi is enough.

    • JLewisDickerson on March 16, 2015, 10:12 pm

      MY REPLY: I’m still pulling for Benjamin Netanyahu to be reelected because when he addressed the U.S. Congress in 2011 he said he was willing to make “painful concessions” in order to achieve a peace agreement with the Palestinians. Certainly he would not have lied to the U.S. Congress. Not to the U.S. Congress! ! !

      SEE: “Inside the talks’ failure: US officials open up”, By Nahum Barnea, YnetNews.com, May 2, 2014
      In an exclusive interview, American officials directly connected to the talks reveal the real reason for the collapse of the negotiations.

      [EXCERPT] The American version of why the current round of negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians failed is fundamentally different to the one presented by Israeli officials. The list of those to blame for this failure is also very different. From the US perspective, the issue of the settlements was largely to blame.

      Senior American officials involved in Secretary of State John Kerry’s peace push this week agreed to share with me their take on the talks’ failure.

      They had one condition, in line with instructions they had received – that I didn’t name them. But what they told me is the closest thing to an official American version of what happened…

      . . . Using advanced software, the Americans drew a border outline in the West Bank that gives Israel sovereignty over some 80 percent of the settlers that live there today. The remaining 20 percent were meant to evacuate. In Jerusalem, the proposed border is based on Bill Clinton’s plan – Jewish neighborhoods to Israel, Arab neighborhoods to the Palestinians.

      The Israeli government made no response to the American plan, and avoided drawing its own border outline. . .

      ENTIRE ARTICLE – http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4515821,00.html

      • Walid on March 16, 2015, 10:30 pm

        “Certainly he would not have lied to the U.S. Congress. Not to the U.S. Congress! ! ! ” (JLD)

        For an experienced professional liar like Netanyahu, skating away from that one would be a piece of cake. He’d say that at the time he made those statements back then, he was very sincere and had high hopes of achieving peace with the Palestinians, but Abbas let him down and has shown him that the Palestinians never really wanted peace but to see the end of Israel and to bring another holocaust on the Jews. And people would feel very sorry for him and understand his change of heart. The guy’s a mean snake.

  29. wondering jew on March 16, 2015, 9:07 pm

    kissing the mezuzah is not something that is a mitzvah, but putting a mezuzah on one’s door is a mitzvah and a way to identify oneself.

    (mitzvah- a commandment in the torah)

    • Walid on March 17, 2015, 2:00 am

      I had one on my door for 5 years; it never bothered me but I wasn’t into the kissing part. I was the only non-Jew in the apartment building and it was there when I moved in. It got me curious to look up the passages that were inscribed inside it.

      • Mooser on March 17, 2015, 4:05 pm

        These days, with cell phones and e-mail, which allow communications wherever one happens top be, the Mezuzah has become very important for me.
        For instance, if I am away from home, and a friend indeed, who may be a friend in need calls, I just tell him: “Look, I’m away from the house, but if you look in that little silver-filligreed box on my door post, there’s a couple a joints in it. Just slide the cover back and take ’em. That’s what they’re there for. Shalom, talk to ya later”

      • wondering jew on March 18, 2015, 4:34 pm

        Walid- If you are truly curious I can find you the exact verses that are inscribed in a mezuzah.

    • oldgeezer on March 17, 2015, 4:13 pm

      @Mooser

      Holy smoke!

  30. Jackdaw on March 17, 2015, 1:32 am

    “Why did Obama ever meet with this man, let alone meet with him more than a dozen times? Why didn’t he just say, You know my number, when you are willing to cut a deal, call me?”

    Apparently, Bibi did try to cut a deal with the Palestinians, a generous one—

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4634075,00.html

    —and, which generous offer was rebuffed.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4634202,00.html

    • annie on March 17, 2015, 3:28 am

      jack, do you read your own links? in the first one, netanyahu denied he ever made the offer and the doc was of the american plan. the second link abbas said he didn’t see the offer. nowhere does it claim palestine rejected this alleged offer and the 2nd article ends like this:

      The concessions he agreed to on substantial issues such as borders, refugees and settlements appear to indicate a fierce and far-reaching desire to reach an agreement that would end the conflict. At the same time, Netanyahu implemented measures on the ground that appeared to indicate otherwise. Apparently, he wanted to be seen as a man eager for peace, but on one condition – that he never actually achieved that peace.

      For the most part – a zigzag. His pendulum swings back and forth in a frenzy – from far-reaching concessions, in terms of his voters, to no concessions at all; from right to left, and then right again. There’s no purpose to it, but there’s movement at least.

      There is a vast and irreconcilable divide between Netanyahu’s hawkish speeches and the instructions he conveyed to his representative in the talks. Was Netanyahu seeking to pull one over on the Palestinians? Was he, in contrast, looking to pull one over on his voters? Was he trying to dance at two weddings with one rear end? All of the above appear correct. The pirouette was delightful; the choreography stunning. And when the curtain came down on the drama, it turned out that Netanyahu was only fooling himself.

      so what are you talking about?

    • just on March 17, 2015, 8:05 am

      “Apparently, Bibi did try to cut a deal with the Palestinians, a generous one”

      Piffle, pshaw, rubbish, and blarney!

      He’s still fooling you?

    • talknic on March 17, 2015, 9:23 am

      Jackdaw would accept a hub cap from his own car in return for the thief keeping the rest.

      Israel’s generous deals involved Israel swapping non-Israeli territory with the Palestinians for non-Israeli territory so Israel can keep non-Israeli territory. IOW Israel offered NO THING!

      Furthermore none of Israel’s demands have any legal basis. There is no law obliging the Palestinians to recognize Israel or any other entity. The UN has UN Members who do not recognize each other.

      There is no law obliging Palestine to dis arm, in fact the UN Charter says all states have equal right to self defense.

      There is no legal basis for Israel claiming non-Israeli territory for defense, the UN Charter tells us all states are equal. International Law tells us it’s inadmissible to acquire territory by war and UNSC resolutions reaffirming and emphasizing the UN Charter and International Law show us that unilateral annexation is illegal

      There is no legal basis for not ending the occupation and there is no legal basis for illegally settling Israeli citizens in non-Israeli territory.

      There is no legal, moral or logical reason why the Palestinians should forgo any of their legal rights and there is no legal, moral or logical reason why Israel should not be held to the law.

    • eljay on March 17, 2015, 9:40 am

      || Jackdaweee: Apparently, Bibi did try to cut a deal with the Palestinians, a generous one … ||

      In response to the report, Netanyahu’s office said: “At no point did Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu agree to withdraw to 1967-lines, divide Jerusalem or recognize the Palestinian right of return. That was and remains his position.”

      Yup, that’s a hell of generous deal.

      • eljay on March 17, 2015, 9:59 am

        In response to the report, Netanyahu’s office said: “At no point did Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu agree to withdraw to 1967-lines, divide Jerusalem or recognize the Palestinian right of return. That was and remains his position.”

        IOW: At no point did Bibi agree that Israel should:
        – end its on-going occupation and colonization of Palestine;
        – withdraw to within its (Partition) borders; or
        – honour its obligations under international law.

  31. kalithea on March 17, 2015, 3:14 am

    Alls I can say is: that bast…rd BN better win! And you all know why. The only way the Zioship is going down is to let the crazies take over and sink it once and for all. If the so-called Left or Center Zios take over; it’ll be one endless lip-service charade and excuse after another to delay and deny justice while Palestinians linger in a limbo of injustice. Worse, these Liberal Zionists’ insufferable pretense at moderation represents global legitimacy regained for Zionism; staggeringly undeserved legitimacy that has been so excrutiatingly difficult to chip away at.

    I can only pray that that nitwit wins again – bite my tongue! Now that the facade of Zionism is starting to crumble why let those delusional Center/Leftists build it up again? And these rescuers of Zionism are totally, totally delusional and self-serving. They are the greatest threat to Palestinian freedom and justice.

    These Center/Leftist Zionists will do more damage with their cover-up of Zionism to the cause of justice for Palestinians than we’ve witnessed yet. They will reverse all progress in ridding this world of the injustice that is Zionism – you mark my words.

  32. Walid on March 17, 2015, 5:36 am

    Really really bad news for Israel and a St Pat’s Day torpedo by Obama: Iran and Hizbullah are no longer on the list of terrorists and worse than that, they are being praised for their valiant effort in fighting Israel’s Pals at ISIS; From Frontpage:

    “Removes Iran from Terror List, Praises it for Fighting Terrorism

    March 16, 2015 by Daniel Greenfield 29 Comments

    The mask is coming off faster than ever.

    You know the country responsible for killing hundreds of marines, which provided sanctuary to Al Qaeda and whose terrorist proxies helped give Al Qaeda the skills to carry out 9/11?

    They’re no longer terrorists. Sure their terrorist groups currently control parts of Lebanon and Yemen, but they’re not terrorists. Because if Iran was a state sponsor of terror, then Obama letting them have the bomb might look bad. This way it’s fine.

    An annual report delivered recently to the US Senate by James Clapper, the director of National Intelligence, removed Iran and Hezbollah from its list of terrorism threats, after years in which they featured in similar reports

    In describing Iran’s regional role, the report noted the Islamic Republic’s “intentions to dampen sectarianism, build responsive partners, and deescalate tensions with Saudi Arabia,” but cautioned that “Iranian leaders—particularly within the security services—are pursuing policies with negative secondary consequences for regional stability and potentially for Iran.

    The only time the report mentions Hezbollah is when describing it as a victim of attacks.

    Lebanon faces growing threats from terrorist groups, including the al-Nusrah Front and ISIL. Sunni extremists are trying to establish networks in Lebanon and have increased attacks against Lebanese army and Hizballah positions along the Lebanese-Syrian border. Lebanon potentially faces a protracted conflict in northern and eastern parts of the country from extremist groups seeking to seize Lebanese territory, supplies, and hostages.

    That clarifies that Obama no longer considers Hezbollah an enemy (not that he ever did). Instead it’s an ally that is classed together with Lebanon, rather than a threat to it…”

    more:

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/dgreenfield/obama-removes-iran-from-terror-list-praises-it-for-fighting-terrorism/

    • seafoid on March 17, 2015, 5:49 am

      Wallahi

      Zionism’s uber problem is that it’s a wedge issue- 7 million indoctrinated Jews in the Levant – sure they can call the shots when things are stable thanks to their money in the US but the great game of power is bigger than that when chaos strikes and Daesh is chaos.

      Power is all about shifting allegiances. Read the Torah, dudes.

      • Walid on March 17, 2015, 6:12 am

        Seafoid, I have always said that Israel does not move the US to where the US does not want to go. It’s absurd to believe that a small chickenshit state can manipulate the US. More switcheroo by the US. With lightning speed, the Pentagon has confirmed that ISIS did not use chemicals this week as had been claimed. Surprising, is that the Pentagon did not try to pin the use of chemicals on Syria either. Things are really warming up between the US and Syria.

      • just on March 17, 2015, 8:07 am

        Thank you both for the good news and commentary.

        Things can change, and quickly.

      • just on March 17, 2015, 8:21 am

        Nice to hear:

        “Obama, ‘ISIL is a direct outgrowth of Al-Qaida in Iraq which grew out of our invasion’

        In an interview with Vice News, President Obama attributed the rise of ISIS in Iraq and Syria to the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003. Obama also discussed the recent letter Senate Republicans sent to Iran.

        Shane Smith: One of the biggest questions that I had was how did they become so popular so fast? How did they get so many foreign fighters from America, from the U.K., from Scandinavia, from all over the world, go there, outstrip al Qaeda, almost overnight. So, a, how did they become so popular out of nowhere? And then, b, how do we stop them?

        President Obama: ISIL is direct outgrowth of Al-Qaida in Iraq which grew out of our invasion which is an example of unintended consequences which is why we should generally aim before we shoot.”

        http://www.haaretz.com/video/1.647337?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

      • eljay on March 17, 2015, 9:02 am

        || President Obama: ISIL is direct outgrowth of Al-Qaida in Iraq which grew out of our invasion which is an example of unintended consequences which is why we should generally aim before we shoot.” ||

        1. The problem isn’t that America forgot to aim before it shot. The problem is that America intentionally aimed at the wrong target and was warned repeatedly not to shoot it…but decided to shoot it anyway.

        2. The sad thing is that America hasn’t learned from its “mistakes” (if you can call intentional f*ck-ups “mistakes”) so it is doomed to repeat them.

  33. Walid on March 17, 2015, 5:58 am

    Conflicting tweets flying back and forth across Israel, some telling the Palestinian Israelis to vote to have a voice in Israel while others are telling them to abstain from voting because by doing so, they are recognizing Israel’s existence. It’s obvious that by abstaining, they would be actually serving the Zionists’ interests. I’m rooting for a massive Palestinian vote.

    • just on March 17, 2015, 8:16 am

      1:45 P.M. Netanyahu: Right-wing gov’t in danger – Arabs voting droves

      “Likud is troubled over high voter turnout in Arab community. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu recently uploaded a video to his Facebook page in which he said: “The right-wing government is in danger. Arab voters are coming out in droves to the polls. Left-wing organizations are bussing them out. We have no V15, we have Order 8 [code for emergency call up to IDF reserve duty], we have only you. Get out to vote, bring your friends and family, vote Likud in order to close the gap between us and ‘Labor.'””

      ~and~

      “1:09 P.M. Central Elections Committee orders Shas to cease distributing flyers claiming that Rabbi Ovadia Yosef says a vote for Shas is a key to heaven. (Ofra Edelman)”

      http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel-election-2015/1.647304

  34. DaBakr on March 17, 2015, 11:03 pm

    duly noted the angst and disgust PW feels that Obama would even “talk to this man” and “more then once” and not say a peep about Obama’s main man Kerry admitting that Obama wants to parlay with the Syrian strongman-even while he continues to barrel bomb his people and use Iranian IRG, equipment, soldiers Hezbollah and their Iranian bought equipment too to slaughter 1000s of Syrian civilians

    Why is the left so eager for the US to get into bed with Iran? They are not better-just different-then other sunni regimes of the gulf area. In fact-it is one pf only 2 or 3 nations that regularly chant for Americas death and burn US flags. Obama has done a very poor job of explaining to his people exactly why this policy os in the US interest. If its not just American appeasement ala Jimmy Carter, weakening US position in region=then explain how so. How is this Obama and Kerry going to reign in Egypt and KSA in terms of their response to an expanding mullah regime?

    It seems certain PW supports the US presidents flip-floppoing on first announcing that Syria belongs to the Syrian people without Assad to now having his top man in the region say the US will negotiate with Assad -even as he continues to drop barrel bombs and use his airforce against rebel forces all with the direct and physical help of Iranian generals, equipment , Hezbollah ands its Iranian bought equipment as well. All while the lives of far more civilians have been reduced to decrepit subsistence with no slick dedicated American left wing blog sites publishing constant propaganda berating the Assad regime or its alNusra, alQ or IS components

    I guess the point is-as it often is here-why just extreme focus on the ridiculous junior varsity level shenanigans between ‘king’ Barry and his determination to ‘git that chickensht sucka,
    bibi, no matter what’;. and its BN thats painted as the hysteric. Go figure. (I have plenty to criticize BN on but he is definitely a mature and capable leader)’. How are the US people to trust an admin that started out-correctly-committed to the Syrian people going forward in freedom w/o mr assad to “we’re going to talk to the guy”? He stabbed the US best friend in the ME in the back when he turn ed back on Mubarak (who was arguably no worse then the mullahs regime, the KSA. Jordan etc. But oh no. He had to dump Mubarak in favor of the ihkwan. Brilliant.

    oh well-i’ll leave it to MW commentaries to hyper focus on Israel and its troubles while the ME swirls in turmoil large enough to subsume Israelis and Palestinians and by forces who care not one wit wether some Palestinians are Muslim and others christian and Israelis mostly Jew as there is no act that will stand in the way of the ‘caliphate’…be it the crazy IS variety from youtube OR the caliphate of Shi’a Iran coming from the east and spoken of in hushed but ecstatic terms by pious shi’a muslims

    • annie on March 17, 2015, 11:35 pm

      more syria whataboutery from debakr

    • oldgeezer on March 18, 2015, 12:25 am

      @DeBakr

      Yes, as if Israel was treated like Syria. I would point out the differences between the treatment of the two states except that you would have to be willfully ignorant or disingenuous to not be aware of them already.

      Frankly it’s a toss up in your case as to which is the true situation.

      About that Caliphate… How is Eretz Israel coming along? No moral, logical or practical difference between them. Vile objectives the both of them.

      You know I look forward to the day we treat the criminals governing Israel as we do the dictator governing Syria. They are both murderous scum. When that day comes I may agree with you that some distinction between the two regimes should be made.

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