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As you can see at the top of our site today, Benjamin Netanyahu is attempting to create a governing coalition in Israel by awarding the position of Justice Minister to Ayelet Shaked, a rightwing member of Knesset who has made genocidal statements against Palestinians. Shaked wrote on Facebook last July after Palestinian militants kidnaped and killed three Israeli teens:

This is a war between two people. Who is the enemy? The Palestinian people… an entire people, including its elderly and its women, its cities and its villages, its property and its infrastructure.

These comments have not yet made the New York Times. Today, NYT Jerusalem bureau chief Jodi Rudoren reports on Netanyahu’s struggles to form a coalition and she leaves Shaked till the 11th paragraph, and then she whitewashes Shaked’s record.

[Naftali] Bennett, a modern-Orthodox former technology entrepreneur who advocates expanding Jewish settlements in the occupied West Bank and annexing most of it into Israel, was already in line to become education minister. After [Avigdor] Lieberman’s departure, he insisted that Ayelet Shaked serve as justice minister. Ms. Shaked is an outspoken hawk on the Palestinian issue who has described African asylum-seekers as a threat to Israel’s Jewish character and pressed for a “nationality bill” that critics say would disenfranchise Arab citizens.

An outspoken hawk? Shaked said Israel was at war with all Palestinians, including the elderly.

Last week speaking on National Public Radio, Rudoren also played down the rightwing element of Israeli society saying that only “a small strain” wants to annex the West Bank: “there’s also a strain– I think a small strain– that just basically believes that the whole river to the sea should be in Israeli or Jewish hands.”

Ayelet Shaked, who is part of that supposedly “small strain,” may well become the number one law enforcement officer in the entire country.

Rudoren or maybe her editors are still smarting over the fact that Netanyahu refused to grant her an interview during and after the election campaign that he won two months ago. Maybe this effort to cover up Shaked’s pro-genocidal views is an audition for an interview with the prime minister.

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  1. just
    just
    May 6, 2015, 2:30 pm

    Maybe Rudoren shares Shaked’s views.

    Maybe Rudoren, Shaked, and Glick are members of the same clubs.

    Anyway, I revisited this great article by Max Blumenthal the other day:

    “Candid video reveals NYT bureau chief Jodi Rudoren’s Zionist bubble

    In early July, New York Times Jerusalem bureau chief Jodi Rudoren found herself under withering scrutiny for uncritically quoting slanderous and later discredited comments by Israeli police spokesperson Mickey Rosenfeld justifying the brutal beating of fifteen-year-old Tariq Abukhdeir. Rudoren took to Facebook to lash out at critics who accused her of “practicing stenography,” attacking them as “anti-Israel activists.”

    The rhetoric she used to characterize supporters of Palestinian rights echoed that of pro-Israel lobbyists like Anti-Defamation League (ADL) National Director Abraham Foxman, who has produced annual blacklists of Palestine solidarity activists and demonized critics of Israeli human rights abuses as anti-Semites.

    Incidentally, Rudoren enjoys a cozy, off-the-record relationship with Foxman that has not been divulged until now. …

    …Alluding to an article by Michael Brown for The Electronic Intifada, criticizing the Jerusalem bureau’s insular culture, Okrent wrote, “Some advocates of the Palestinian cause call this ‘structural geographic bias.’”

    Okrent concluded that Brown was essentially right: the paper’s coverage had been badly compromised by the limited political and cultural horizons of its Jerusalem staff. He went on to recommend that the Times add correspondents based in Ramallah and Gaza to balance the Jerusalem bureau’s Jewish Israeli perspective with a view from within Palestinian society.

    That never happened. Instead, the Times hired Rudoren to retrench its presence in the ethnically-cleansed and exclusively Jewish world of West Jerusalem, settling her on grounds that represent the ongoing legacy of Palestinian dispossession.

    As Israel drives those Palestinians out of sight, the Rudorens appear to have placed them comfortably out of mind.”

    Worth a read: http://electronicintifada.net/content/candid-video-reveals-nyt-bureau-chief-jodi-rudorens-zionist-bubble/13685

    Thanks James.

  2. MRW
    MRW
    May 6, 2015, 2:57 pm

    In early July, New York Times Jerusalem bureau chief Jodi Rudoren found herself under withering scrutiny for uncritically quoting slanderous and later discredited comments by Israeli police spokesperson Mickey Rosenfeld

    This is why the NYT Israel correspondent should never be a Jew. A Jew can be made to succumb in a “Jewish State.”

    Traditionally, you never appoint a local as a foreign correspondent. A big lanky guy from North Dakota would have been better, someone with detachment.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      May 6, 2015, 10:29 pm

      “A Jew can be made to succumb in a “Jewish State.”

      Really? Okay, just for my information, if I was the NYTs correspondent assigned to Jerusalem (God forbid!) how would they make me succumb, me being a Jew? What power would they have over me?
      Yes, they could get the NYTs to fire me, or recall me, or get me beaten or shot, (but they can do that to anybody) how would they use my undoubted (and quite obvious, frankly) identity as a Jew to make me succumb to the Jewish State?

      • May 7, 2015, 7:42 am

        A Jew can be made to succumb in a “Jewish State.” Really? Okay, just for my information, if I was the NYTs correspondent assigned to Jerusalem (God forbid!) how would they make me succumb, me being a Jew? What power would they have over me? –

        You should probably direct this question to someone who has been targeted by organized Jewry and has succumbed. Like Richard Goldstone or David Cole.

      • CigarGod
        CigarGod
        May 7, 2015, 8:45 am

        How about just one Muslim column in the NYT…alongside a Jewish one?
        It would be nice to regularly be able to read an Arab perspective…from the mouth of an Arab. 14 million Jews in the world…and we are inundated with Jewish perspective. 400 million Arabs…and barely a whisper from an Arab…but plenty of Jews speaking for Arabs. I guess this is why the NYT writes at the 8th grade level. The readers can’t tell what is missing.

      • Chu
        Chu
        May 7, 2015, 9:18 am

        C-God, excellent idea that I’ve thought about for years. Nytimes pretends to be a liberal newspaper, but if they had a Muslim columnist who shared their experiences in the Arab realm, it would undermine the delicate narrative that Zionism is victim in the Arab world.
        Picking Jodi after Bronner was a clear sign they were choosing a neophyte who they could shape to become Israel’s stenographer. It was a like a band aid on a leaking pipe to select her – NYTimes is desperate to shape the perception that Israel is the victim, not the aggressor, in Palestine/Israel conflict.
        But it’s refreshing to continually see that all of the Times readers, when allowed to comment, side against the State of Israel that we see today.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        May 8, 2015, 1:06 am

        “You should probably direct this question to someone who has been targeted by organized Jewry and has succumbed. Like Richard Goldstone or David Cole.”

        Yeow! You are right, Giles. They would find a way.

        Okay, I take the question back, I don’t even want to know, and I’m sorry I asked!

    • tony greenstein
      tony greenstein
      May 7, 2015, 8:18 am

      This is a good example of how Zionism makes people into anti-Semites. It says all Jews are Zionists (except for a small group of ‘self haters’) and therefore the assumption is that a journalist or whoever is pro-Israeli.

      In fact the responsibility for placing supporters of Zionism in the Jerusalem bureau of the NYT is that of non-Jews as much as Jews. Indeed their religion is irrelevant. They are there because of their politics.

      If Max Blumenthall or myself were in that position then the NYT’s Jerusalem bureau chief would not be apologising for genocidal murderers. It would have nothing to do with our being Jewish but our politics, which are anti-Zionist.

      • just
        just
        May 7, 2015, 10:54 am

        I ‘get’ everything you’re saying except your premise:

        “This is a good example of how Zionism makes people into anti-Semites.”

        I totally disagree. Zionism, in and of itself, makes many people recoil in horror. To witness the practice, etc. is what makes people anti- Zionists.

      • JeffB
        JeffB
        May 7, 2015, 12:52 pm

        @Tony

        You don’t keep shabbat, you don’t keep kosher, you don’t pray after meals and wear tefillin. You are a major anti-Jewish politician. What other than your name is Jewish about you? You tell me how are you a Jew and not an apostate?

        Back before racial anti-Semitism there used to be anti-Judaics who would say stuff like they don’t hate Jews they just Judaism and how Judaism turns Jews into money grubbing, filthy, noxious … That a generation or two after converting they were sure the descendants of Jews could become proper Christians in both demeanor and religion. All one had to do was stamp out their noxious faith. Today we group that anti-Judaism with anti-Semitism even though it isn’t racial.

        People who hate Zionism are anti-Semites in the same sense. Why should Jews care whether whether someone wants to destroy 100% of the Jews or only the 99% who don’t meet their criteria?

      • eljay
        eljay
        May 7, 2015, 3:09 pm

        || JeffB: @Tony You don’t keep shabbat, you don’t keep kosher, you don’t pray after meals and wear tefillin. … What other than your name is Jewish about you? You tell me how are you a Jew and not an apostate? ||

        JeffB – who anti-Semitically believes that all Jews are responsible for the actions of some Jews – commands a Jewish person to justify his Jewishness. Amazing.

        I hope Tony is able to provide sufficient proof. I’d hate to see him excommunicated, exiled or executed by JeffB.

      • just
        just
        May 7, 2015, 4:54 pm

        My, my JeffB.

        Your chutzpah knows no bounds! After you enumerate the criteria by which you judge another person’s fitness as a Jew, you go on to say:

        “Why should Jews care whether whether someone wants to destroy 100% of the Jews or only the 99% who don’t meet their criteria?”

        I hope that Tony shows up to respond to your rant. Thanks eljay.

      • Kris
        Kris
        May 7, 2015, 4:56 pm

        @JeffB: “You don’t keep shabbat, you don’t keep kosher, you don’t pray after meals and wear tefillin. You are a major anti-Jewish politician. What other than your name is Jewish about you? You tell me how are you a Jew and not an apostate?”

        JeffB, are you saying that believing in Judaism is what makes someone “Jewish”? Does that exclude you, since you support Israel’s cruel oppression of the Palestinans and the theft of their land?

        Or maybe what makes someone “Jewish” is observing some rituals, however the person behaves towards other people? Wouldn’t such a person be like a whited sepulchre? Sort of a monster?

        Are the many Jewish Israelis who don’t believe in God “Jewish” anyway, as far as you’re concerned? (I don’t mean in Israel’s sense, since there, “Jewish” is just a racial tag for the privileged people, and has nothing to do with Judaism.)

        I am constantly trying to figure out how “Judaism” has anything to do with Israel’s crimes against humanity, so am looking forward to your response.

      • just
        just
        May 7, 2015, 5:00 pm

        You beat me to it, Kris.

        You said it well; thank you.

      • JeffB
        JeffB
        May 7, 2015, 5:58 pm

        @Kris

        JeffB, are you saying that believing in Judaism is what makes someone “Jewish”?

        No. But active the concept of apostasy exist same as in Christianity. Being an active enemy of the Jewish people, that is one who seeks to destroy the Jewish people, loses you your status (poshea Yisrael — transgressor of Israel). People like Juan de Valladolid, Astruc Remoch who were born of a Jewish mother and then turned against their people are considered apostates and have been for centuries. You tend to like the quote the bible abid elohim acher those who lead people to serve other gods than those of Israel are explicitly out of the tribe (Deut 13:6-11). Same as the argument that Obama uses for executing American citizens that are working for Al Qaeda.

        Does that exclude you, since you support Israel’s cruel oppression of the Palestinans and the theft of their land?

        Nope. We discussed this. Just like Christians get to decide what’s Christian, Jews get to say what is Judaism and your theology even if you can find quotes out of context to support it, is not Judaism. Same argument you would have with a Mormon who quoted verses from the New Testament arguing for eternal progression, the verses exist and out of context they may seem to imply eternal progression but Christian doctrine still maintains a distinction between creator and created.

        Or maybe what makes someone “Jewish” is observing some rituals, however the person behaves towards other people? Wouldn’t such a person be like a whited sepulchre?

        Kris, I hate to tell you this. But Jews rejected Matthew 23:27. Judaism as it existed today evolved from the Pharisees. Jews don’t believe in salvation in the Christian sense at all. But as close as the concept can map they unequivocally reject sola fide. Judaism is a religion of works. Those works include good deeds towards others, and those works include ritual observation. But treason against Israel is not a good work.

        One can argue that Israel is not being kind enough and not being moral enough and still be fully Jewish. J-Street is in keeping with Jewish tradition and Jewish norms. But you need to work within the system. Same as an American can join the peace movement and that’s fine but joining Al-Qaeda is not.

        Are the many Jewish Israelis who don’t believe in God “Jewish” anyway, as far as you’re concerned?

        Of course they live in Israel. The vow for even a convert is: For wherever you go, I will go; wherever you lodge, I will lodge; your people shall be my people, and your God my God. Where you die, I will die, and there I will be buried. Thus and more may the Lord do to me if anything but death parts me from you. Israelis meet that vow (excluding someone like Ben Zygier).

        I don’t mean in Israel’s sense, since there, “Jewish” is just a racial tag for the privileged people, and has nothing to do with Judaism.

        There is no Jewish race. There is no distinction racially between Palestinians Jews and Palestinian Muslims. Heck Israeli Arabs usually think I’m Christian even though Americans tell easily I’m Jewish. What racial characteristics do all Jews share?

        I am constantly trying to figure out how “Judaism” has anything to do with Israel’s crimes against humanity, so am looking forward to your response.

        I gave you a long response on your Hillel thread. Jew is just an evolution of the term Judaean, which is an ancient nationality. Judaism is the religion of the Jewish people which evolved from the religion of Judaea. Israel is Jewish state. Jews today are slowly migrating back to Judaism and Judaism is thus transforming from a diaspora religion to the state church of Israel. In a century of so to be Jewish will just mean to believe in the religion of Israel, the same way Shinto is the religion of Japan.

        Greek culture (Hellenism) merged with Judaism to form Hellenized Judaism. Hasmonean Judaism was sort of a fundamentalist revolt against Hellenized Judaism. It led to two main movements which you are familiar with from the New Testament: the Pharisees and the Sadducees. Hellenized Judaism continued to evolve outside of Judaea (particularly in Egypt but also in places like Asia Minor) into Hellenistic Judaism. Hellenistic Judaism merged with a bunch of obscure Jewish cults which had spun off from Sadducean Judaism to form proto-Chistianity. In short Christianity evolved from a form of Judaism that didn’t survive within Judaism. Christians because of the New Testament have this screwy concept of Judaism. While a good deal of the New Testament is Jewish (some is not) almost none of it is mainstream Jewish, and even what is often gets reinterpreted by Christians into theology that is alien to Judaism. Judaism is not Christianity with different names for stuff, it really is a different religion.

        I can hear you thinking about Paul and Jesus when you discuss Judaism. That is just going to mislead you in terms of understanding mainstream Judaism. Wikipedia’s article on Pirkei Avot is a pretty good intro to Jewish ethics: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirkei_Avot
        Something like: http://www.amazon.com/Back-To-The-Sources-Reading/dp/0671605968
        is going to give you a far better handle on Jewish ethics than Matthew.

        Your concepts are grounded in the concept that Jews are permanently illegitimate. Judaism rejects the racism of the anti-colonialism movement that holds that some people are entitled to live as citizens and others only as foreigners. They reject it for Romany people, they reject it for the Kurds (and are actively helping them fight it), they reject it for the Sikhs, for the Shan and they reject it for themselves. Your problem with Jewish ethics is you keep trying to twist Jewish ethics, which don’t really have the concept of race, into supporting your anti-colonialism racism. Anti-colonial racism is foreign to Judaism, you won’t be able to get it to fit.

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        May 7, 2015, 9:14 pm

        “I’d hate to see him excommunicated, exiled or executed by JeffB.”

        Exiled or executed would be nasty, but excommunicated isn’t so bad. That would just make him an ordinary Gentile, like the rest of us. No need to worry about who’s pouring the wine. It only curdles when a Gentile pours it for a Jew

        And it would make JeffB part of an even tinier (though probably whinier) minority.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        May 8, 2015, 1:18 am

        “You don’t keep shabbat, you don’t keep kosher, you don’t pray after meals and wear tefillin. You are a major anti-Jewish politician. What other than your name is Jewish about you? You tell me how are you a Jew and not an apostate?”

        Tony Greenstein, please don’t mind “JeffyB”. He, like so many Zionists, is convinced that there are too many Jews, and we need to get rid of many more. I guess the Holocaust didn’t do enough for “JeffyB” and he thinks there should be even fewer of us.

        Please understand, Tony, that “JeffyB” is trying to reduce the number of Jews purely out of a religious commitment, and not because, well, ‘they aren’t making land any more’, and he wants a bigger share of Greater Israel. Self-interest, as you know, Mr. Greenstein, has never troubled Zionism!

        But maybe JeffyB has a point. Everybody knows that throughout the entire terrible century of anti-semitism in Europe, only the frum weren’t having fun. Jews were carefully questioned on their practices by their persecutors, and those not making a minimum number of mitvots were disdainfully dismissed, as not worth the trouble to persecute.

        But things will turn around now, Tony, now that “JeffyB” is making out the secular offender registry!

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        May 8, 2015, 1:33 am

        Oh no, I scrolled down, and “JeffyB” is having another ad nauseam binge-and-purge episode! Yecccch, there’s logorrhea everywhere.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        May 8, 2015, 1:35 am

        “You don’t keep shabbat, you don’t keep kosher, you don’t pray after meals and wear tefillin. You are a major anti-Jewish politician. What other than your name is Jewish about you? You tell me how are you a Jew and not an apostate?” “JeffyB”

        “This is a good example of how Zionism makes people into anti-Semites.”

        Couldn’t agree more.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        May 8, 2015, 1:44 am

        “No. But active the concept of apostasy exist same as in Christianity.”

        Okay, “JeffyB” you got me. I was eating a tangerine, and now it’s on the screen. Okay, this has got, got to be the weirdest one ever. I mean the absolute craziest permutation of “Well, those lousy Christians do it, so why can’t we?” I’ve ever, ever seen.

        Besides being completely absurd, too. Anyway, I gotta go get a screen-wipe. Wow, talk about internalizing persecution….

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        May 8, 2015, 1:49 am

        “I’d hate to see him excommunicated, exiled or executed by JeffB.”

        Good old “JeffyB! The Lord High Excommunicator!! Hes got a little list, of those who won’t be missed! Those apo-states and mosers they never will never will be missed! He’s got ’em on the list, the secular-offender list!

        You know, that’s what I love most about “JeffyB”, you know, he’s just folks. No grandiosity about him.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        May 8, 2015, 2:20 am

        “Why should Jews care whether whether someone wants to destroy 100% of the Jews or only the 99% who don’t meet their criteria?”

        Well, well, listen to the member of the 1%!! So you think we need to get rid of 99% of the Jews, “JeffyB”? The ones who “don’t meet their criteria.

        Holy Mackerel, I’ve sometimes toyed with the frightening possibility that Zionism wants to destroy “only the 99%” of Jews “who don’t meet their criteria”, but I never expected a Zionist to come right out and say it!

        “Why should Jews care” JeffyB? Because, as you say, JeffyB, the campaign to “destroy” the Jews “who don’t meet their criteria” is directed against them!

        Well, now we know what we are up against.

      • CigarGod
        CigarGod
        May 8, 2015, 8:32 am

        Mooser!
        You may have stumbled upon the reason for those “lost” tribes.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        May 8, 2015, 2:32 am

        “JeffB – who anti-Semitically believes that all Jews are responsible for the actions of some Jews – commands a Jewish person to justify his Jewishness. Amazing.”

        Eljay, just imagine being a kid, a child or adolescent, with “JeffyB” and “Jon s” as your guiding lights to your identity as a Jew. Wouldn’t that be fun!!

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        May 8, 2015, 2:38 am

        “What other than your name is Jewish about you? You tell me how are you a Jew and not an apostate?” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/05/rudoren-genocidal-statements/comment-page-1#comment-766437

        I suppose one could answer:

        I am a Jew. Hath not a Jew eyes? Hath not a Jew hands, organs, dimensions, senses, affections, passions? Fed with the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject to the same diseases, healed by the same means, warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer ? If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die?

        Could look at it that way, I suppose. If you cared about the TU, But JeffyB don’t need no ‘tribal unity’ He’s the Lord High Excommunicater, and a Chief Rabbi!.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        May 8, 2015, 2:50 am

        “Jews today are slowly migrating back to Judaism and Judaism is thus transforming from a diaspora religion to the state church of Israel. In a century of so to be Jewish will just mean to believe in the religion of Israel, the same way Shinto is the religion of Japan.” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/05/rudoren-genocidal-statements/comment-page-1#comment-766439

        https://www.google.com/search?q=logerhea&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=what+is+the+official+religion+of+japan

        Yeah, sure, Jeffy. You are really something. I guess they’ll be no pets in Israel someday. “Help, help, the frummers got Fluffy and they are taking him to Temple!”

        Okay, I’m sorry, too many short comments. But man, that Jeffy is hysterical. He is one funny guy.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        May 8, 2015, 3:17 am

        “People like Juan de Valladolid, Astruc Remoch who were born of a Jewish mother and then turned against their people are considered apostates and have been for centuries.”

        Thanks, Jefilla! Thjey are being struck from my Hannukah list tonight! Makes me sick when I think of all the presents I’ve sent them over the centuries. Well, no more, better late than never.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        May 8, 2015, 3:21 am

        “Christians because of the New Testament have this screwy concept of Judaism.”

        Thanks be to G-d that never happens to us! I mean, how could it?

      • eljay
        eljay
        May 8, 2015, 10:40 am

        || Mooser: Eljay, just imagine being a kid, a child or adolescent, with “JeffyB” and “Jon s” as your guiding lights to your identity as a Jew. Wouldn’t that be fun!! ||

        It would be – and I believe this is the correct term – a “mindf*ck”.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        May 8, 2015, 12:53 pm

        “It would be – and I believe this is the correct term – a “mindf*ck”.

        Well, as our “classic left” friend “Jon s” says: “Even their sexual behavior is different”.

      • eljay
        eljay
        May 8, 2015, 2:36 pm

        || Mooser: Well, as our “classic left” friend “Jon s” says: “Even their sexual behavior is different”. ||

        “Well, touché!”

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        May 10, 2015, 1:06 am

        “What other than your name is Jewish about you?”

        “JeffyB” I don’t think even that will save Greenstein. I know a hundred non-Jewish “Tony”s.

  3. ckg
    ckg
    May 6, 2015, 2:58 pm

    Rudoren: Ms. Shaked is an outspoken hawk on the Palestinian issue…

    The NYT is a bit clueless about Ms. Shaked. According to NewsDiffs.org, the originally published copy of the article read Mr. Shaked… A correction was later added to inform us that Ms. Shaked is, in fact, a woman.

  4. traintosiberia
    traintosiberia
    May 6, 2015, 9:06 pm

    I was listening to her and also was trying to understand the confused answers and comments of the NPR host. At one time he said basically that Israel now had all the momentum since the threat from Iraq,Syria,Libya had melted away . He was asking if Israel would use the opportunity to force what it would like see happen in Palestine . There was talk of status quo and maintaining the grip but no mention of the dire situation in Palestine no pushback against current Israeli attempts to influence the political situation in Syria a nd Lebanon through support to terrorism or even the recent anti Obama anti Iran activities in US Congress .The respect and reverence were palpable in the air .

  5. echinococcus
    echinococcus
    May 6, 2015, 10:17 pm

    That Shaked monster is refreshingly right in one thing: the Zionists are officially at war with the Palestinian people, as we keep saying since 1947 and any “peace talks” were nothing but lies and deception. That is good to know.

    • Froggy
      Froggy
      May 7, 2015, 9:25 am

      I was reading about that Shaked monster, as you rightly call her, when my teenage son ambled by, casually chomping on a sarnie.

      He glanced over my shoulder, stopped for a moment to see what I was reading, and in English, the language of serious discussion in this household, remarked, ‘Well it’s out now… innit?’

      He’s thirteen, and now he knows.

      • just
        just
        May 7, 2015, 9:44 am

        A credit to you, Froggy! That kind of wisdom doesn’t happen in a vacuum.

        *-)

      • CigarGod
        CigarGod
        May 7, 2015, 9:50 am

        That is a little nugget of hope!

  6. ivri
    ivri
    May 7, 2015, 8:31 am

    Some people fail to understand that over time things become symmetrical and reciprocity prevails. For a long time the field was solely about the Palestinian “victims (and Arabs/Muslims supporters) having a card-blanche for attacking Israel in all kinds of ways: terror, slander, UN resolutions, call for boycott and what not. That cannot last forever. The Jewish world is small but it has its punch-back capabilities – Pam Geller in the US, Jewish ‘new philosophers” in France and of course a much hardened position in Israel itself.

    • eljay
      eljay
      May 7, 2015, 10:05 am

      || ivri: Some people fail to understand that over time things become symmetrical and reciprocity prevails. ||

      Yup. Zio-supremacists fail to understand that their Thousand-Year “Jewish State” – built on terrorism, oppression, theft, occupation, colonization, destruction, torture, murder, belligerence and supremacism – will not last forever. Reciprocity will prevail.

      Or maybe they do understand and their “Plan B” is to throw non-Zionist Jews “under the bus” when the shit finally does hit the fan:

      “Me? No, I’m not Jewish. ‘Death to Israel!’…right? But, hey, that guy over there – he’s the one you want. He’s A JEW! GET HIM!!!

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      May 8, 2015, 1:59 am

      “The Jewish world is small but it has its punch-back capabilities – Pam Geller in the US, Jewish ‘new philosophers” in France and of course a much hardened position in Israel itself.”

      Oh, crap, there goes another slice of my tangerine. I’m gonna use up this entire can of screen-wipes.

      And an illegal, uncontrolled nuclear arsenal! Tremble, Gentiles, at our might!
      And when we get a handle on the birth rate, the out-marriage rate, and the walk-away rate, we will punch way above our weight! We might even merge the denominations into one unified Judaism, right “ivri”?

      And don’t forget organized Judaism’s undoubted powers to punish apostates, “Irvri”! That’s the cherry on top your Zionist-power Sundae.

    • RoHa
      RoHa
      May 8, 2015, 2:55 am

      Another good reason for staying out of France.
      If you go there, you run the risk of being punched by a Jewish ‘new philosopher”.

      What could be scarier?

  7. Kay24
    Kay24
    May 7, 2015, 10:54 am

    The NYT must have editors who are as biased as well. For them, to keep this so called reporter, who has been openly biased and dishonest in her reporting, shows that they are either ignorant, which is unacceptable, or condones what she is doing – promoting a false image of Israel. What this Shaked person has said, urging genocide, is disgusting, and shows her mind set. As much as Rudoren might fail to mention it in her article, it is mentioned in other unbiased articles. She is doing her newspapers a big disservice by consistent writing erroneous reports, and showing an inability to be professional and neutral in her reporting.

    No can EVER doubt, that Netanyahu, wanted this extreme right wing government. This is going to be bad for the Palestinians, any hopes of peace, a Palestinian state, or a reasonable government. These are extremists whose one thought is to get rid of the Palestinians (genocide being suggested) and take over their lands. The US government should rightfully stop supporting this right wing government, because their policies go against what we stand for, including a two state solution for the Palestinians and Israelis. This is a disaster waiting to happen, and perhaps these right wingers might be the very people to bring it on themselves.

  8. Bornajoo
    Bornajoo
    May 7, 2015, 4:26 pm

    “JeffB – who anti-Semitically believes that all Jews are responsible for the actions of some Jews – commands a Jewish person to justify his Jewishness. Amazing. (Ejay)

    I agree Ejay. Amazing.

    And fricking scary

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      May 8, 2015, 2:10 am

      “And fricking scary”

      Yep, Bornajoo, he frightens me to death. After all, when I think how close all the governments of the world are to recognizing Zionism’s claims to ownership of all Jews, and turning us over to “JeffyB”‘s tender mercies, I could plotz!

      And if the Gentiles fail Zionism (those welchers! Do your part!) there’s still the certainty that the sheer charm of Zionism and Judaism, not to mention the attractiveness of its doctrines and the reasonableness of its demands will, well, just think Pied Piper. I mean, how could the kids not follow something so enticing?

  9. eljay
    eljay
    May 7, 2015, 9:40 pm

    || Bornajoo: I agree Ejay. Amazing.

    And fricking scary ||

    Yup. People like him, who define morality as goal + methods, are people to worry about. Just look at ISIS.

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