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A video recorded yesterday by Palestine TV at Jalazone Refugee Camp 4 miles north of Ramallah begins with a soldier yelling and then lunging towards an unarmed Palestinian man appearing to be walking past him on a street. The man raises his open hand, palm forward, to thwart off his attacker.

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Haaretz reports the soldier are “screaming expletives” and “taunting” the man to respond while “vowing that should he say one more word then he will “f*** his mother.” The soldier slams into the man, then swings his right hand up into the air and strikes it down hard over the Palestinian man’s head and face.

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A shuffle ensues, again the man raises his open palms indicating a defensive, passive gesture.

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So opens Palestine TV’s broadcast by Ali Dar Ali, recording the attack in which several soldiers proceed to corner and surround the man, capturing him. One soldiers can be seen taking a swing at his head at 35 seconds in.

Soldiers surround and capture Palestinian man

Soldiers surround and capture Palestinian man

The soldiers pull the man down:

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We can then see and hear the sound as a soldier slams the butt of his rifle down over the captured man’s head at 37 seconds before the team of soldiers force him to the ground and proceed to kick and beat him.

Soldier swings rifle down with force over the captured man's head.

Soldier swings rifle down with force over the captured man’s head.

Haaretz reports,

While on the ground, a fifth soldier is seen punching him in the face, while another soldier kicks him in his face. Another soldier then pins the Palestinian to the ground by stepping on his head, and his face can be seen to be bleeding. The video ends with the forces taking the now handcuffed Palestinian away.

The soldiers filed a report but failed to mention their violent attack on the man before the video surfaced. They claimed the man “tried to touch their gun” but there is nothing in the video remotely indicating that occurred. Reportedly, according to Palestinian sources the soldiers had previously taken over the Palestinian man’s home during a protest at the refugee camp and the man was angry his family had been hit by tear gas.

The Israeli military said today they are investigating the incident. The Times of Israel, IDF probes beating of unarmed Palestinian man:

“Those involved will be brought before the brigade commander tomorrow for a continued inquiry and investigation, and disciplinary action will be taken against them if need be,” the army said in a statement. “According to an initial investigation it seems the (soldiers’) behavior was inconsistent with that which is expected of IDF soldiers.”

Here is the video:

There is nothing unusual about the violence metered out on an unarmed Palestinian by Israeli soldiers as displayed in this video.

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  1. Kate
    Kate on June 13, 2015, 5:27 pm

    Completely disgusting, but as you say, nothing unusual for them

    • just
      just on June 13, 2015, 5:49 pm

      Correct, Annie and Kate.

      Business as usual~ caught on tape this time.

      Do I expect any admission of wrongdoing? No.

      Not when we had the UN/US most recent exoneration of Israel’s crimes:

      “UN report catalogs Israeli attacks on Palestinian children, but leaves Israel off child rights abusers ‘list of shame’” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/israel-palestine#sthash.UUC6naCt.dpuf

      Not when Lerner crowed that it was only a “tragic accident”:

      “Israel failed to interview eyewitnesses to soccer boys’ slaughter” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/israel-palestine#sthash.UUC6naCt.dpuf

      Not when many Zionists and their supporters don’t bother to comment, much less act upon the criminal acts that Kate chronicles several times a week. Here’s today’s:

      “Fire in the olive orchards, as two nonviolent protests against occupation are suppressed” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/06/nonviolent-occupation-suppressed#sthash.IUD5eB8i.dpuf

      Not when the IOF kicks people out of their own pool at gunpoint:

      “Soldiers expel 200 Palestinians from pool to allow settlers to bathe” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/israel-palestine#sthash.UUC6naCt.dpuf

      The most pitiful thing is that many incidents are caught on tape, and still the IOF and the GoI are never held accountable.

      • ritzl
        ritzl on June 18, 2015, 4:30 am

        Yup. Soldiers enforcing a belligerent occupation over decades is as blatant a provocation as there is. The nerve if some Palestinians reacting poorly to that.

        Yet another example of Israel’s, “The beatings will continue until morale improves.” style of Occupation beneficence.

      • talknic
        talknic on June 18, 2015, 6:08 am

        @ Jackdaw Point this alleged “blatant provocation” out on the time line buddy.

        Don’t forget to include the alleged fire bombs …. thx

        https://youtu.be/qSFurxWsVb8

      • Bornajoo
        Bornajoo on June 18, 2015, 6:32 am

        “@ Jackdaw Point this alleged “blatant provocation” out on the time line buddy.”

        Talknic. I’m afraid that Jackdaw might be right. I’ve just seen the whole unedited video. There was indeed a blatant provocation.

        How dare this untermensche, this nobody, dare to challenge his superior masters? How dare he try and stand up for himself, his rights and dignity, even though completely unarmed and completely outnumbered? How dare he not just immediately bow to the commands of his rulers and masters? How dare he still be there, squatting in his pathetic squalid refugee camp in the sacred land of Eretz Israel, the land that God exclusively gave to his Chosen People?

        The fact that he’s still there is a blatant provocation let alone having the audacity to dare stand up for himself!

        The quicker he decides to bugger off to Jordan so that the colonisation of the whole land can finally take place the better. Right Jackdaw?

      • eljay
        eljay on June 18, 2015, 7:48 am

        || Jackdaw: … Blatant provocation. ||

        || ritzl: Yup. Soldiers enforcing a belligerent occupation over decades is as blatant a provocation as there is. ||

        I agree. The article linked to by Jackdaw says “The much shorter video circulated by Palestinian media … showed only the beating itself, without context.” Meanwhile, the article itself omits all context relating to the “Jewish State” of Israel’s almost 70-year-long campaign of aggression, oppression, theft, colonization, destruction, torture and murder.

        It’s like a video of the rapist beating his victim being “debunked” by an article that provides “context” in the form of a more-complete video showing the victim earlier attacking the rapist. Purposely omitted / glossed over / avoided is the greater context that the man is a serial rapist, the woman is his victim and she’s been chained in his basement and raped and brutalized for months on end.

      • CigarGod
        CigarGod on June 18, 2015, 9:29 am

        WOw, Eljay.
        Now, that is powerful context.

      • Kris
        Kris on June 18, 2015, 9:58 am

        Thanks, Jackdaw. Where is the “blatant provocation?” Foreign troops illegally on Palestinian soil?

        The heavily-armed Israeli soldiers who keep calling a Palestinian man a “trany” and then, when he walks away, say that they should have shot him in the leg, and then go after him?

        Is this the same technique the brave Jewish Israeli soldiers use when they taunt Palestinian boys into throwing stones, and then use the stone-throwing as a pretext to shoot the kids?

        And this happened where? Oh, in Ramallah. What are Israeli troops doing in a Palestinian city? Is it legal for them to be there? No.

      • JLewisDickerson
        JLewisDickerson on June 18, 2015, 4:13 pm

        RE: “Full, unedited video. link to jpost.com Blatant provocation. ~ Jackdaw

        SEE: “Full video released of IDF soldiers arresting Palestinian”, by Yoav Zitun, YnetNews.com, 17 June 2015
        New footage of incident doesn’t show Palestinian trying to take soldier’s weapon as they claimed; IDF has yet to respond to new video.
        LINK – http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4669794,00.html

  2. Mike_Konrad
    Mike_Konrad on June 13, 2015, 5:40 pm

    I would love to see what the preceding 5 minutes showed.

    Both sides edit for their own benefit.

    • just
      just on June 13, 2015, 5:51 pm

      Here we go…

    • annie
      annie on June 13, 2015, 6:00 pm

      Both sides edit for their own benefit.

      i’d be interested to see what the other sides edit looks like, if they have one. do they? and if so have you seen it?

      it’s possible nothing was recorded prior to this because not much was happening, and/or it didn’t appear anything was going to happen. or maybe just angry words.

    • talknic
      talknic on June 13, 2015, 8:27 pm

      @ Mike_Konrad June

      “I would love to see what the preceding 5 minutes showed”

      A) How would it justify the unwarranted IDF violence that followed. Your honest answer would be appreciated

      B) Do you have evidence it was there was any preceding 5 minutes of video footage to edit out? It might not have been a magical Ziocamera that runs 24/365

    • a blah chick
      a blah chick on June 13, 2015, 8:38 pm

      Well, the Times of Israel, hardly a pro-Palestinian outfit says…

      “The man is initially seen arguing with soldiers, when one of them begins screaming obscenities at him and proceeds to attack and hit him. The man does not back down and scuffles with the troops..”

      The man is unarmed but he was “mouthy” and the IDF does not tolerate “uppityness.”

      “The army said Saturday it was aware of the incident and was carrying out a thorough investigation of its circumstances, with military sources telling Walla News that soldiers had not reported the violence to their superiors before the video surfaced.”

      Got that? They did not report the incident. No doubt they will get a stern talking to and told to make sure that the next time they beat someone make sure no one is filming it.

      Most moral army in the world.(sic)

      • bryan
        bryan on June 14, 2015, 2:51 am

        Most moral army in the world.(sick)

      • Kay24
        Kay24 on June 14, 2015, 11:33 am

        Being mouthy does not justify the inhumane treatment by the IDF thugs.

        If this was a foul mouthed settler, he would have been handled with kid gloves.

        Basically the hatred for those they point their guns at, keeps surfacing at the slightest excuse.

    • Shingo
      Shingo on June 14, 2015, 6:05 am

      I would love to see what the preceding 5 minutes showed.

      Yes Mike I am sure who ever shot this edited the smoking gun evidence to show the guy deserved what he got.

      • Bornajoo
        Bornajoo on June 14, 2015, 6:14 am

        Shingo, I don’t think Mike really needs to see anything else. I’m sure he knows and understands full well that this untermensche got everything he deserved because he’s a snake and all his children are little snakes. That’s enough for him.

        Because surely these superior people in the most moral army in the world can do no wrong and any suggestion of that is pure, endemic, virulent anti semitism

        Right Mike?

    • Kay24
      Kay24 on June 14, 2015, 7:37 am

      That is judging others by zionist standards and endless self investigations. Remember during the Gaza flotilla massacre, it was the Israeli forces that admitted they had doctored audio tapes? Israelis are experts at that.

    • diasp0ra
      diasp0ra on June 14, 2015, 8:56 am

      Oh please, pray tell, enlighten us, what an unarmed man could have said in the previous 5 minutes to warrant a savage physical beating by armed occupation troops.

    • Marnie
      Marnie on June 14, 2015, 1:38 pm

      Hey Mike –
      Is it just this particular video you’d like more info on or any of the other hundreds of video showing the true face of the IDF? I mean, it’s not like this is some aberration dude.

      And regarding your comment about the benefits of editing, do you have examples of any? At all?

    • bintbiba
      bintbiba on June 18, 2015, 8:26 am

      Bornajoo, +1

      well said, thank you.

      Standing up with his bare fists to his daily tormenters who are armed to the teeth .
      His raw anger and wounded dignity give him the courage so to do. Totally justified.

    • JLewisDickerson
      JLewisDickerson on June 18, 2015, 4:16 pm

      RE: “I would love to see what the preceding 5 minutes showed.” ~ Mike_Konrad

      SEE: “Full video released of IDF soldiers arresting Palestinian”, by Yoav Zitun, YnetNews.com, 17 June 2015
      New footage of incident doesn’t show Palestinian trying to take soldier’s weapon as they claimed; IDF has yet to respond to new video.
      LINK – http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4669794,00.html

  3. Bornajoo
    Bornajoo on June 13, 2015, 6:11 pm

    Dirty cowardly sadistic sick bullies. And that’s me trying to be polite

    It’s simply disgusting

    Thanks for posting this Annie. I hope it’s shown and seen far and wide

    • matti
      matti on June 17, 2015, 6:35 pm

      how many adjectives are you trying to use here to describe a small group of Israeli soldiers being surrounded by aggressive men, while firebombs are being hurled at them…and their weapons are being grabbed? oh… that’s right… you didn’t see the entire footage… because that would require you to actually look for the footage… which means that you would actually have to find the truth, as complex as it may be, instead of doing what you do best, which is to rant about things you know little about from the comfort of your couch.

      • Kris
        Kris on June 17, 2015, 7:38 pm

        Whatever, matti. Please share the links to “the entire footage” here. If you can.

        I am no longer wasting my time looking for the “truth” that Zionists post , because it almost always turns out to be lies.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus on June 17, 2015, 8:19 pm

        matti,

        I’d love to see some Israeli soldiers being surrounded by aggressive men, women, kids, whatever, firebombs hurled at them, their weapons grabbed and whatever may ensue.
        Please provide the footage.

      • Bornajoo
        Bornajoo on June 17, 2015, 10:57 pm

        “how many adjectives are you trying to use here to describe a small group of Israeli soldiers being surrounded by aggressive men, while firebombs are being hurled at them…and their weapons are being grabbed? oh… that’s right… you didn’t see the entire footage… because that would require you to actually look for the footage… which means that you would actually have to find the truth, as complex as it may be, instead of doing what you do best, which is to rant about things you know little about from the comfort of your couch”

        Actually I would have liked to have used some different adjectives but they probably wouldn’t have passed moderation

        Here are some more details about the story from the Israeli press which helps fill the gaps. The brave soldiers of the most moral army in the world were there protecting the illegal settlement of Beit El:

        By Amira Hass
        Published 06:00 17.06.15
        The mistake made by the armed soldiers from the Netzah Yehuda battalion was that they allowed cameras to document their bestiality and cowardice while attacking a brave Palestinian civilian, armed with a visor cap and T-shirt, last Friday. For this error, their commanders punished them this week by meting out negligible disciplinary punishments. Their commanders couldn’t punish them for their crude assault, their loss of control, their arrogance or their abuse; you don’t punish a person for something that is the social norm, as well as a metaphor for the balance of power between Israel and the Palestinians.

        Had it not been for the cameras, the eyewitness reports about the four to seven armed soldiers who beat Shadi al-Ghabashi, who is older than they are, would have been dubbed “allegations,” meaning statements whose credibility should be doubted. It’s doubtful that the Israel Defense Forces would have rushed to question the soldiers, to wonder if they might not be lying, or to impose even negligible punishments on them had it not been for the cameras. Most Israeli media outlets wouldn’t have even bothered to report the “allegations.”

        Journalists’ reports, based on a clip from Palestinian television, stressed that the soldiers were filmed beating a Palestinian after they had already “gotten him under control.” The reports also emphasized the curses they showered him with. If there were a hidden camera at every arrest, we would have to admit that soldiers beating Palestinians whom they have already “gotten under control” is not unusual. And curses? There are Palestinians who conclude, from their run-ins with soldiers, that Hebrew consists of only eight words. Five of them are curses, and the other three are “halt,” “scram” and “forbidden.” All eight are barked out, like the videotaped barks and growls of the Netzah Yehuda soldiers.

        Israeli society, as the collective parents of all the soldiers, doesn’t hear their/its barks and growls. In its view, beating an unarmed civilian with a rifle butt constitutes noble restraint and gentleness on the part of the soldier-victim. Or in other words, on its own part.

        For a long time already, the question of “What were the soldiers doing there, on the road near the Jalazun refugee camp?” hasn’t been asked. After all, if they weren’t there, nobody would have thrown stones and Molotov cocktails at them. If they weren’t there, nobody would have tried to remind them that they are invaders. But they are there because the illegal settlement of Beit El is there, and the IDF’s job is to perpetuate the illegality and ensure that it flourishes.

        The Hebrew-language reports about the soldiers who beat a Palestinian in front of the cameras missed one obvious fact that arises from the video clip: Ghabashi’s courage. He went out to the soldiers to protest the tear gas grenades they threw into his house in the Jalazun refugee camp while they were facing off with the young people from the camp, who demonstrate there every week against the occupation, the army, the settlement of Beit El. Ghabashi knows very well what armed, nervous soldiers can do to a Palestinian who dares to argue with them and disobey them when they order him to get lost; curses, punches and arrest are the least of it. They could also have shot him, and then invented some excuse. The valiant Ghabashi represents a Palestinian norm.

        The standard media reports range from presenting the Palestinians as victims to presenting them as aggressors, between wretchedness and dangerousness. But the real story is their courage. And one more thing: The Palestinians know something about actual soldiers of every rank, and also about soldiers as a metaphor for Israeli society, that Israeli society isn’t willing to know about itself: The ugliness of the people’s army that is protecting an illegal policy is a natural result of the reality. And this is the weak point that is exposed to Palestinian eyes
        http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/1.661513

      • talknic
        talknic on June 17, 2015, 11:52 pm

        Sure matti, sure …

        Nothing the IDF says or said to justify Israel’s illegal activities in non-Israeli territory should be taken on face value

        https://youtu.be/qSFurxWsVb8

        The victim is a gutsy guy, barely containing an anger likely born of a life time under occupation. I’d hug him if I could.

        The IDF .. a pathetic bunch of sadistic abusers.

      • oldgeezer
        oldgeezer on June 18, 2015, 1:44 am

        Nice try matti but now that the greater segment of footage has been released it shows the idf to be cowards and bullies to an even greater exent.

        Sweet own goal for apologists of israeli terrorism.

  4. Marnie
    Marnie on June 14, 2015, 12:42 am

    The IDF demands Palestinian children and adults, men old enough to be their fathers or grandfathers or young enough to be brothers or little brothers, to show nothing but resignation and obesience to their superiority, because they are scared shitless of anything less. There could be no other behavior for IDF soldiers as they are pampered and spoiled rotten from birth, convinced of their superiority and that everything is theirs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv0jav4lNsk

    • ritzl
      ritzl on June 14, 2015, 9:56 am

      Yep Marnie. Someone posted this a few years ago at Daily Kos. It perfectly illustrates what you wrote.

      The soldier isn’t even looking at the person he’s detaining. He expects him to follow like a dog.

      http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af247/ritzl/HamdeAbuRahme.jpg

      Photo by Hamde Abu Rahme

      • Marnie
        Marnie on June 14, 2015, 1:47 pm

        Horrible. I remember seeing some footage, I believe from Rwanda during the genocide, of a Hutu man with a machete in one hand and in the other a doomed Tutsi man he was dragging into some bushes to murder. There was no expression on the Hutu man’s face, it was like “business as usual”, which it probably was, as there had been many mini-massacres of Tutsis by Hutus before 1994.

    • bintbiba
      bintbiba on June 18, 2015, 2:01 am

      @ Bornajoo , June 17 , 10:17 pm

      Many thanks, Bornajoo for posting the brave Amira Haas’ article .
      And many thanks for your enduring support for Justice in Palestine .

  5. truth2power
    truth2power on June 14, 2015, 5:37 am

    What a disgraceful exhibition of the Israeli Army @ work – they shame themselves utterly!

  6. OlegR
    OlegR on June 14, 2015, 5:58 am

    The Arab guy said “Cus Imma Shelha” (Your mama’s cunt) to the soldier before he blew on him in the same manner .Obviously there was a prior altercation that we don’t see as well.
    Not that it excuses such behavior.Soldiers shouldn’t be doing police work.

  7. Shingo
    Shingo on June 14, 2015, 6:07 am

    When you see how pathetic these Israelis are – 5 ganged up against one – it’s hardly surprising that Hezbollah kicked the shit out of the IDF Dough Boys in pitched battles on the ground.

    Take away their guns and this guy probably would have been able to beat the crap out of these pussies.

    • Kay24
      Kay24 on June 14, 2015, 7:38 am

      They are real cowards if you take away the big guns and their US made weapons. Their weapons make them the thugs they are today, and their hatred for the Palestinians does the rest.

    • CigarGod
      CigarGod on June 14, 2015, 9:06 am

      Same in USA police departments…which seem to be trained like these guys. They get caught doing wrong…and thru their lawyer we learn they were afraid of the unarmed 12 year old they just shot…and now they are depressed that Americans dont like them. On Monday morning all these depressed pussies…now on disability…are out mowing their lawns. Not having a national registry for bad cops…makes it easy to get a job with another department…and continue their evil ways.

  8. just
    just on June 14, 2015, 7:39 am

    Not really O/T

    “Netanyahu: UN inquiry commission’s report on 2014 Gaza war is ‘waste of time’

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Sunday that reading the United Nations Human Rights Council’s report on Israel’s alleged war crimes during last summer’s war in Gaza was a “waste of time.”

    The UNHRC is a “hostile body, not objective regarding Israel… which has made more resolutions against Israel than against Syria, Iran and North Korea combined,” Netanyahu told ministers at the weekly cabinet meeting in Jerusalem.

    The UN council is due to publish its report within the coming days, perhaps as early as Monday.

    At the start of the weekly meeting, Cabinet Secretary Avichai Mendelblit gave Netanyahu the report Israel had prepared on Operative Protective Edge to counter the one being released by the UN.

    Mendelblit told the ministers that the Israeli report describes the war crimes committed by Hamas and the other Palestinian organizations, the threats of terror against Israel from Gaza, the steps Israel had taken to act within accordance of international law and to avoid harming citizens, as well as the investigations and examinations ongoing in Israel since the end of the war.

    “Israel is now faced with an unprecedented attack of delegitimization,” Netanyahu said after receiving the Israeli report. “This is a baseless and political attack aimed at sullying Israel. We will respond to this attack. This is the report that will portray the true picture of what happened in the operation and will prove that the actions taken by the IDF were done in accordance with international law and out of necessity to protect our citizens from the murderous terror organizations who committed double war crimes – shooting at citizens while hiding behind citizens.”

    “Israel is committed to international law not because of UN commissions of inquiry but because it is a democratic state,” Netanyahu added. “We are not afraid to check ourselves when necessary. Israel’s mechanism of investigation and examinations are the leading in the world. When there are credible claims, they are checked.”

    … Canadian academic William Schabas, resigned from the committee amid Israeli allegations of bias due to consultancy work he did for the Palestine Liberation Organization.

    American jurist Mary McGowan-Davis was subsequently named to head the inquiry. McGowan-Davis, who was previously a member of the panel, is regarded as a lot more fair with regard to Israel.

    McGowan-Davis was head of the UNHRC’s committee that implemented the findings of the Goldstone fact-finding mission into Israel’s Cast Lead operation in Gaza in 2009. Israel cooperated with her at the time and provided her with substantial documentation regarding Israel’s own inquiries into the operation.”

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.661066

    Anyone have an extra sick bag?

    • Kay24
      Kay24 on June 14, 2015, 11:39 am

      The zionists of Israel do not hesitate to use their mighty weapons on unarmed civilians, because they KNOW that the US will protect them at the UN, and they will, as usual get away with murder.

      If any zionist should wonder why they are disliked in the world, it is not because they are Jews, it is simply because such incidents, seen often, have made the majority in the world dislike their nation, their armed forces, their brutality, the damn occupation, and land grabs.
      Time to stop pretending otherwise.

      • matti
        matti on June 17, 2015, 6:31 pm

        right.. You, Kay, should perhaps read something other than anti-Israel propoganda sometime so you can learn about the complexities instead of taking the typical/easy way out and labeling everything in such shallow terms. Your shrill ranting about “zionists”, “occupation”, “brutality”…etc.. whilst being blind to the injustices levied against the palestinians by the PA and Hamas (and Lebanon and Egypt…etc) exposes you to be as most others on these boards – an armchair quarterback, living in an insulated bubble of intellectualism and ideology. Sadly, this is the biggest challenge to peace here – people turning Israel or the Palestinians into a faceless “other”. Its a simple path, and one that will not solve the problems here.

      • ritzl
        ritzl on June 17, 2015, 8:56 pm

        Right, matti. Speaking of armchair and faceless… Since you live right there, have you gone to live in Gaza for a week? A day? An hour? The duration of a fleeting thought?

  9. just
    just on June 14, 2015, 7:58 am

    “GAZA CITY (Ma’an) — Israeli forces deployed near the Sufa crossing in the southern Gaza Strip opened fire at and injured a Palestinian Saturday, local sources told Ma’an.

    An Israeli army spokesperson confirmed the report, telling Ma’an that a “Palestinian suspect approached the security fence” and Israeli forces opened fire at his lower extremities after firing warning shots into the air.

    One hit was confirmed, and Israeli forces took the man to a hospital in Israel for treatment, she added.

    The spokesperson did not have confirmation if the injured man would be detained after treatment or returned to the Gaza Strip.”…

    read more @ http://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=765944

  10. catalan
    catalan on June 14, 2015, 10:02 am

    Atrocious behavior from Israeli soldiers. Really depressing. Not sure who the kids are at the end of the video, but their parents shouldn’t be letting them do that. Risky.
    BDS is hurting Israel but not helping the Palestinians. As seen above.

    • CigarGod
      CigarGod on June 14, 2015, 10:24 am

      1. Yes, atrocious behavior.
      2. Parents are either stuck in hours long checkpoints…or incarcerated for either nothing…or for resisting.
      3. Please show evidence that BDS in anyway…has influence in this case…one way or another.

      • catalan
        catalan on June 14, 2015, 10:37 am

        “Please show evidence that BDS in anyway…has influence in this case…one way or another. – ”
        I have zero evidence that BDS influenced this case specifically. My prediction, as you know, is that BDS will further stoke tensions, hurt the Israeli economy, and in the process, hurt the Palestinians too. There will be more situations like the one in the video as people on both sides get angrier. You disagree as is your right.
        Please show your evidence that the parents of these kids were incarcerated or stuck at check points.

      • a blah chick
        a blah chick on June 14, 2015, 11:03 am

        I think the reasoning is that BDS makes. Palestinian folk uppity. Said uppityness rubs many Jewish Israelis (particularly if they are in uniform) the wrong way. Hence they are “forced” to respond to put the untermensch back in their place. So you can see why this was BDS’s fault.

      • oldgeezer
        oldgeezer on June 14, 2015, 12:46 pm

        @catalan

        Like any zionist you have to deflect responsibility away for your fellow travellers.

        Face it, BDS has nothing to do with this. Nothing. There is a half century of these types of incidents which is long before BDS ever came onto the scene.

        Israel is a nasty brutish racist society whether it be at the lower end typified by these soldiers and, even worse, border guards or the higher end with the thugs running the goi openly planning crimes against humanity and dehumanizing Palestinians even so far as to deny their existence.

        BDS may ratched up the tensions but it has nothing to do with the vile culture Israel has created for itself.

      • catalan
        catalan on June 14, 2015, 12:58 pm

        “Like any zionist you have to deflect responsibility away for your fellow travellers. -”
        Geezer,
        I grew up in Bulgaria. Very “nasty and brutish”. I have seen people beaten horribly while everyone is watching. One wrong move and you are out. All kinds of torture.
        I don’t know what you mean by fellow travelers. Bulgarian accountants in New Mexico who like to read philosophy and history and play with their sons?
        The point of bringing up BDS was not deflect but to point out it is the wrong cure. Saying that aspirin will not cure lymphoma is not saying cancer is a good thing, you know….

      • ritzl
        ritzl on June 14, 2015, 3:11 pm

        @catalan- “The point of bringing up BDS was not deflect but to point out it is the wrong cure. – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/06/soldiers-violently-palestinian#comment-774573

        Just out of curiosity, what do you believe the right (npi) cure to be?

      • annie
        annie on June 14, 2015, 4:07 pm

        ritzl, i found this amusing “Saying that aspirin will not cure lymphoma …. you know….” as if catalan’s opinion of “BDS ..is the wrong cure” is akin to a tried and true scientific finding. lol!

        let’s see if he answers you, and if that answer passes the scientific analogy smell test.

      • catalan
        catalan on June 14, 2015, 4:37 pm

        “as if catalans opinion of “BDS ..is the wrong cure” amounts to a tried and true scientific” Annie
        Interesting point. The fact is that cancer treatments, far from being tired and true, are highly unpredictable on the individual level. There are statistics of response rates, chances of remission and length of remission but nobody knows how an individual would respond. Indeed, that’s one of the big criticisms of the way we deal with illness generally because frequently, the chances of survival are not sufficient to justify the pain and suffering caused by therapies with remote chances of success.
        It is difficult for people to do nothing, and we tend to cling to every hope.
        Likewise with this issue of BDS. The most we can have is probability of success and then we place our bets on the outcomes. As things stand, we are not witnessing a big probability for success of BDS. If we did, we would see much higher emigration levels from Israel, a weak stock market, a weak currency, etc. On the other side, we would see increased investment in the Palestinian economy, refugees selling property in readiness to go back to Israel and so on.
        As far as possible solutions – I think that maybe an anonymous committee of experts from both side could build a plan. People who actually have attained something, doctors, entrepreneurs, engineers, scientists. They would have to be anonymous to avoid being labeled traitors etc by either side. At my school in DC we had a conflict resolution Masters degree. Clearly, they can’t think of anything, so I am not sure I am qualified at all. Maybe Phil can write an article here about how he sees prospects for peace, timeline, logistics, parameters, success probability, participants, etc.

      • ritzl
        ritzl on June 14, 2015, 4:41 pm

        Annie, yep. He did seem pretty categorical, didn’t he. Like, “Previously undiscovered concept here! Guaranteed to WORK! [If only people would listen.]”

        Should be interesting.

      • annie
        annie on June 14, 2015, 4:50 pm

        yeah, i am still processing Saying that aspirin will not cure lymphoma….highly unpredictable on the individual level.

        or what about this: we are not witnessing a big probability for success of BDS. If we did, we would see much higher emigration levels from Israel

        because after 10 years of boycotting SA apartheid there were high emigration rates — NOT. and this:

        I think that maybe an anonymous committee of experts from both side could build a plan. People who actually have attained something, doctors, entrepreneurs, engineers, scientists.

        because committee of experts from both sides have had so much success in the past building plans –NOT

        because committee of experts from both sides building plans has never been tried after all these decades of occupation — NOT

        On the other side, we would see increased investment in the Palestinian economy

        because everyone is so excited about investing in occupation — NOT

        maybe catalan is unaware of all the investment in palestine israel has bombed, dismantled and/or bulldozed. sheesh!

      • bryan
        bryan on June 15, 2015, 6:13 am

        Interesting how pro-Israel fanatics are using more and more desperate “whatabouts” to defend the indefensible. Two days ago it was Jackdaw asserting that commemoration of the Nakba would be illegitimate until there was equal focus on the mistreatment of the Hoa Chinese population thirty years ago by the authoritarian Communist regime in Vietnam. A few days ago it was Catalan highlighting the horrors of FGM in Gambia. Today its Catalan arguing that indiscretions committed by “the most moral army in the world” should be understood in the light of unspecified acts of violence committed years ago by unspecified persons in the primitive, corrupt, backward East European communist regime of Bulgaria.

        Are we to conclude that there are rogue states that are just as bad, if not worse, than Israel? You people may not be enthusiastic advocates of international law and human rights, but please can we set the bar just a little bit higher?

    • John O
      John O on June 14, 2015, 11:22 am

      To summarise your points, catalan:

      Atrocious behaviour but it’s still the Palestinians’ fault.

    • oldgeezer
      oldgeezer on June 15, 2015, 12:46 am

      @catalan

      “I grew up in Bulgaria. Very “nasty and brutish”. I have seen people beaten horribly while everyone is watching. – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/06/soldiers-violently-palestinian#comment-147871

      No wonder you support the nasty and brutish Israeli culture where you people are tortured and publically beaten while everyone is watching. The world sees it on youtube, reads about it in the press. The zionist apologists shrug and deflect about other middle eastern nations or bulgaria. You would feel at home I’m sure. The addition of torturing Palestinian children must be a huge bone…errr bonus for you

      “One wrong move and you are out. ”

      Sweet, in Israel one wrong move and a unarmed 12 year old girl gets a full clip emptied into her from a couple of feet away. You make Bulgaria sound like a comparative paradise to be honest.

      “Bulgarian accountants in New Mexico who like to read philosophy and history and play with their sons? – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/06/soldiers-violently-palestinian#comment-147871

      You left out your finest attributes which are to support the tribe in their brutalization of innocent people including children such as your own. Karma would dictate that you get to watch your children being brutalized by others one of these days. I honestly hope not but would point out you have zero empathy. You attitude is sometimes referred to as I’m alright Jack.

      “The point of bringing up BDS was not deflect but to point out it is the wrong cure – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/06/soldiers-violently-palestinian#comment-147871

      Yeah sure it was. It would have taken a lot less effort and be more clear to state, “BDS is not the right cure” but instead you opted to get a dig in.

      I am on side with others who ask for your right cure to the situation. I note you have responded to some degree. All your suggestions have been tried and all that has resulted from it is more murder, oppression, theft of resources and theft of land.

      BDS is not the cure perhaps but it will be the impetus to force the parties to find a cure. Not even the most frothing Israeli bankers will accept losses on an ongoing basis.

      • ritzl
        ritzl on June 15, 2015, 4:09 am

        Great summary, oldgeezer. I would just add that in catalan-speak, from the Israeli perspective BDS is the lymphoma, not the cure. It is the reason/motivation to actually find the “cure,” whatever form that takes.

        If catalan reads what you an Annie have written in response, he would probably understand that it’s all been done before. Nothing happened. No motivation, no solution. No “cure.”

        Maybe we should ask catalan why his plan/cure would be implemented when all others have failed.

    • oldgeezer
      oldgeezer on June 15, 2015, 12:26 pm

      @catalan

      My opinion is that we lose our humanity, or soul, or spirit, goodness, whatever you want to call it when we practice collective punishment. – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/recent-comments#sthash.C7sQgd30.dpuf

      Yet you support a state and it’s citizens who have forced collective punishment on millions of innocent Palestinians for half a century. Denying them even the most basic of human rights.

      Tell us about your wonderful humanity again. I could use a good laugh.

    • talknic
      talknic on June 18, 2015, 8:47 am

      catalan

      ” Not sure who the kids are at the end of the video..”

      Palestinians you stupid person

      ” but their parents shouldn’t be letting them do that”

      Why? For all you know their parents might be dead from being on the receiving end of Israel’s hi – tech human slaughtering equipment

      ” Risky”

      Only because Israel shoots children

      “BDS is hurting Israel but not helping the Palestinians. As seen above.”

      As seen above where/how?

  11. catalan
    catalan on June 14, 2015, 11:56 am

    “Atrocious behaviour but it’s still the Palestinians’ fault. – ” John
    In Bulgaria they say, the way the Devil reads the Bible. That’s how you interpret me.
    But to your point – no. The behavior of the soldiers in this video makes me sad and ashamed.
    I do believe that kids should be kept out of confrontations with military or police.
    This Palestinian man they were abusing seemed very nice. Just heartbreaking stuff.The fault in this case lies clearly with the soldiers.
    As far as BDS, Santayana said, fanaticism is when you double your efforts when you have forgotten your aims.
    I have never said anything about uppity Palestinans. I don’t know you come up with this stuff. Uppity? I am Bulgarian. We are like, the last on the Totem pole you know.

    • just
      just on June 14, 2015, 1:12 pm

      What about the illegal and violent settlers kiddies’ parents? You know, the ones that are lords and masters over the Occupied Palestinians… What about Lehava? What about the horror that Israel has made of Jerusalem and Hebron? Incredibly, all horror in Gaza and all over Occupied Palestine goes unpunished.

      “Soldiers expel 200 Palestinians from pool to allow settlers to bathe” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/06/soldiers-palestinians-settlers#sthash.g3UloRyF.dpuf

      “Bitter waters: Settlers invade ancient pool under Palestinian control

      It’s a day that won’t be forgotten in the arid, far-flung village of Al-Karmel, in the southern reaches of Mount Hebron. Even now, two months later, the resident are overwrought when they tell the story of what happened, their rage and feeling of humiliation still palpable.”

      http://www.haaretz.com/weekend/twilight-zone/.premium-1.660601

      “Israeli settlers attack 11-year-old Palestinian child in Hebron” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/?s=settler#sthash.begSBJ5w.dpuf

      “Settlers attack Palestinian children in South Hebron Hills, injure 6-year-old girl” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/?s=settler#sthash.begSBJ5w.dpuf

      “Ten year old Palestinian boy attacked by settlers and abducted by Israeli soldiers while playing in the snow in Hebron” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/?s=settler#sthash.begSBJ5w.dpuf

      “Settlers’ video accuses B’Tselem, Breaking the Silence, Peace Now and New Israel Fund of collaborating with Nazi anti-Semites” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/?s=settler#sthash.begSBJ5w.dpuf

      “Settler opens fire at Palestinian market in East Jerusalem; Israeli soldiers arrive to protect settler, arrest Palestinian” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/?s=settler#sthash.begSBJ5w.dpuf

      “Obama reported to be looking into settler attack on State Dep’t officials, even as NYT buries the story” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/?s=settler#sthash.begSBJ5w.dpuf

      “Israeli settlers attack US consulate convoy in the West Bank (Updated)” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/?s=settler#sthash.begSBJ5w.dpuf

      “7-year-old is latest victim of hit-and-run attack by settler driver” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/?s=settler#sthash.begSBJ5w.dpuf

      There’s so much more… BDS helps (thank goodness), but it is not enough to stop the Israeli insanity and cruelty.

      As for your “I am Bulgarian. We are like, the last on the Totem pole you know.”

      Spare me your tears. I call bull on that. You already stated that you are a US citizen, previously “illegal”.

      • catalan
        catalan on June 14, 2015, 1:35 pm

        “Spare me your tears. I call bull on that. You already stated that you are a US citizen, previously “illegal”. – ”
        No tears at all. I take life as it comes and try not to fear death, pain, and old age. I only brought this up to say that I would never refer to anyone as “uppity”. I don’t think that BDS has anything to do with “uppity” Palestinians. Someone here said that the goal is to isolate the Israelis so that they rethink their ways. That’s magical thinking.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus on June 14, 2015, 2:09 pm

        Strange, I agree with Catalan:

        Someone here said [of BDS] that the goal is to isolate the Israelis so that they rethink their ways. That’s magical thinking

        That’s the exact description of it. “Israelis” and “rethink their ways” is the worst contradiction inside a sentence.
        The goal , for those less magically minded, is to damage the economy, cut the imagined ombilical cord to the West, make it a pariah state, start some sizable emigration and build momentum for when even Uncle Sam can’t do much for the patient.

    • Frankie P
      Frankie P on June 14, 2015, 6:48 pm

      catalan:

      “I don’t know what you mean by fellow travelers. Bulgarian accountants in New Mexico who like to read philosophy and history and play with their sons?”

      “The behavior of the soldiers in this video makes me sad and ashamed.”

      I’m having problems integrating the preceding two statements. Why would the Bulgarian accountant who distances himself from Zionism and its supporters in the first statement feel ashamed by the hideous actions of IDF stormtroopers?

      The cognative dissonance that you display is so massive that you are unable to see it yourself.

      Frankie P

      • catalan
        catalan on June 14, 2015, 8:14 pm

        “The cognative dissonance that you display is so massive that you are unable to see it yourself. -” Frankie
        I meant ashamed of being human, not ashamed of being Jewish.

      • Frankie P
        Frankie P on June 15, 2015, 7:50 am

        catalan, no need to worry. those soldiers have effectively lost their humanity. and yet you still support them and their progressively inhuman state while they claim to represent you as a jew. doesn’t that rankle, even a little?

      • catalan
        catalan on June 15, 2015, 11:02 am

        “claim to represent you as a jew. doesn’t that rankle, even a little” Frankie
        No. I try to live a good life. I have been fortunate too, so I give a lot to all sorts of people and causes. I am an individualist, so it doesn’t rankle me when people claim to represent me, as a Jew, as an American, or as a Bulgarian.
        My opinion is that we lose our humanity, or soul, or spirit, goodness, whatever you want to call it when we practice collective punishment. BDS is collective punishment, ergo, I am against it.
        If I get even luckier than I have been, I would like to participate in preservation of African wildlife. I wish Lawrence Anthony was still alive.

      • CigarGod
        CigarGod on June 15, 2015, 11:35 am

        Collective punishment is state sponsored imprisoning of a population by air, land and sea; where they are subject to starvation, invasion and indescriminate bombing.

        BDS is a citizen…and stateless person driven resistence movement…against a free society which imposes enslavement and slaughter on a people held hostage.

        Get your head right, Dude.

      • catalan
        catalan on June 15, 2015, 11:51 am

        “BDS is a citizen…and stateless person driven resistence movement – ” cigar
        You live in a free country and it is your right to resist, boycott, whatever. It is my right not to boycott products or services because of their country of origin.
        If there is a joint Israeli-Palestinian business venture which brings people to work together, I would be interested in participating. I am a pacifist; boycotts in my opinion are also financially unsound but I don’t want to get into technical stuff because it would be boring. That said, I have reasons to think that certain boycotts work only temporarily and then actually strengthen the economy of the boycotted party. I expect Russia’s economy to improve significantly not least because of the sanctions. Economics and finance are extremely counterintuitive. That’s one reason the “one percent” is, well, rich.

      • CigarGod
        CigarGod on June 15, 2015, 1:28 pm

        Then we understand the science at work.

        I try to employ humanitarian principles to the topic, for a win/win. Others apply fascist principles for a win/lose.

        Perhaps others believe it is noble not to rock the boat.

      • amigo
        amigo on June 16, 2015, 7:09 am

        “I meant ashamed of being human, not ashamed of being Jewish.catalan.

        Are you saying Jews are not human.Nobody else did.

    • Marnie
      Marnie on June 15, 2015, 12:16 am

      “Likewise with this issue of BDS. The most we can have is probability of success and then we place our bets on the outcomes. As things stand, we are not witnessing a big probability for success of BDS .”

      It’s showing success because it’s being talked about 24/7. The US is attempting to create laws specifically regarding BDS. The zionist government is going bat shit crazy over it. Only a few months ago BDS was a joke to the zionists. Amazing what can happen in a short space of time. I can’t imagine what the success of BDS will be by the fall (autumn, that is).

      • annie
        annie on June 15, 2015, 12:23 am

        “… we are not witnessing a big probability for success of BDS .”

        then why would the israeli government be dumping 100 million grand into the coffers of the ministry countering it? that just makes no sense. maybe they’re so rolling in the bucks they can afford to throw away money unnecessarily.

        if you ask me our options are “is catalan logically impaired or a propaganda scam artist”.

        wow, tough choice. not ;)

      • catalan
        catalan on June 15, 2015, 12:56 am

        “then why would the israeli government be dumping 100 million grand into the coffers of the ministry countering it? – ” Annie
        Of course boycotting Israeli products is harmful for Israel. Who could deny that? I mean, they can adapt, they can make products more competitive, hide country of origin, look for other markets, but when all is said and done, it is harmful. As you say, they are investing money in countering the boycott.
        However, you define “success” as harming the Israeli economy or society or individuals. What I am suggesting is that this definition of success in no way includes tangible improvements for the Palestinians. Indeed, this so called “success” is probably on balance harmful to the Palestinians. The Palestinian economy is tied up with the Israeli one. More importantly, human nature and common sense says that the Israeli response will be more settlements, more checkpoints, and more militarization. It’s just what people do when they are under threat.
        So yes, if the definition of success is harming the Israelis, sure. But if it is helping the Palestinians, I just don’t see how this is going to happen. And if it does, great.

  12. amigo
    amigo on June 14, 2015, 1:11 pm

    I am really bored , let,s find a Palestinian to have some fun with. Anyone want to join in.

    The most moral army doing what it does best.Act as immoral as it can get away with and it usually does .Just imagine being a citizen of this so called beacon and somehow managing to feel proud of it.

    Go figure.

    • just
      just on June 15, 2015, 8:22 am

      “Just imagine being a citizen of this so called beacon and somehow managing to feel proud of it.”

      Perish the idea of saying that or asking a candidate if they are “a citizen of this so called beacon”!

  13. Froggy
    Froggy on June 14, 2015, 2:20 pm

    Typical bully boys; spoilt rotten mama’s boys playing at being macho.

  14. eljay
    eljay on June 14, 2015, 2:21 pm

    || OlegR: The Arab guy said “Cus Imma Shelha” (Your mama’s cunt) to the soldier … ||

    And why not? None of those hateful and immoral Zio-supremacist pukes has any business being outside of Israel’s (Partition) borders in the first place.

    It’s bad enough that they terrorize and brutalize their own Israeli people within the (Partition) borders of their country. F*ckers.

    • a blah chick
      a blah chick on June 18, 2015, 8:47 am

      The Arab guy said “Cus Imma Shelha”

      Mothers really take it on the chin in I/P swearing.

  15. a blah chick
    a blah chick on June 14, 2015, 8:42 pm

    Well, dear hearts, it looks like the IDF agrees with us! From Haaretz hours ago:

    “Two Israeli soldiers who were filmed beating a Palestinian man in the Jalazun refugee camp this weekend were given suspended sentences of 28 days in military jail. Another soldier, who was filmed cursing at the man, was sentenced to 30 days on base without leave.” I’d quote more but the rest was behind the paywall.

    So, the guys who actually beat the man get suspended sentences while the guy who cursed gets no leave. Yep, those punishments will definitely leave a mark.

  16. iResistDe4iAm
    iResistDe4iAm on June 16, 2015, 11:10 am

    At one point (0:36) there are 8 armed Israeli soldiers against 1 unarmed Palestinian man, with press cameras rolling (2 helmeted Press staff with a 3rd camera filming them at 0:25).

    Imagine the same situation without any cameras rolling.

  17. oldgeezer
    oldgeezer on June 18, 2015, 1:03 am

    Thanks talknic. Not much else I can say except that the armed Israeli terrorists are pure scum defending a criminal state. Stun grenades because someone is taking a picture? Beatings of unarmed people. A part of me feels calling people scum is over the line but watching that video and considering the circumstances the use of the word scum doesn’t half convey the depravity of their actions or the depravity of their supporters.

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