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Since a video went viral yesterday showing the German Chancellor Angela Merkel getting questioned from school kids as part of the government’s programme “Gut Leben in Deutschland” (Good Life in Germany), the brutality and hardship of European migration policy became a little more visible by what one of these kids had so say.

The PR-disaster was caused by Reem, a Palestinian girl who fled a refugee camp in Lebanon with her family four years ago and now faces deportation.

She told Merkel in fluent German: “As long as I don’t know how long I can stay here, I don’t know what my future will be. I really want to study in Germany. It is really unpleasant to look on how others can really enjoy life while oneself can’t enjoy it with them.” Whereas Merkel replied: “I understand, however, I have to… politics is sometimes hard. You’re a very nice person but you know that there are thousands and thousands of people in Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon and if I say ‘you can all come,’ (…) we just can’t manage that.”

After she continued defending the government’s asylum policy, Reem burst into tears and got stroked by Merkel, what has gone viral on Twitter as #merkelstreichelt (Merkel strokes) and her apparent lack of empathy got slammed and criticized since.

Reem’s family had only been granted temporary right of asylum and since Lebanon is not regarded a country at civil war by German authorities, it is lawful to deport them back.

Unfortunately, the entire German news coverage is leaving out the fact that this refugee camp Reem is supposed to be sent back to is not her home. At least some newspapers think it is worth mentioning that she is originally Palestinian. And her story is one out of 1.5 million (and that is only one-third of registered refugees according to UNRWA statistics) stories of Palestinians who have been displaced and are currently living in refugee camps all over Jordan, Lebanon, the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, as well as Syria, partially under degrading and cruel conditions. Conditions Ms. Merkel can – judging from her reaction – not even imagine.

But no matter how much one can criticize Merkel’s behaviour, it is nevertheless an honest one.

The scene reflects a perfect microcosm of Germany’s rigid migration policy and the Ivory tower European leadership is talking down from. Reem is, as was pointed out, just one of thousands and thousands of refugees and one of millions of displaced Palestinians – an issue the German government fails to deal with since it conflicts with the Chancellor’s raison d’état.

It might not only be time to rethink German asylum policy, but also to take the country’s gridlocked position on foreign affairs into reconsideration which contributes to the situation people find themselves in.

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Rebecca Burkert

Rebecca Burkert studied Politics and Anthropology at Frankfurt University, as well as Palestine and Arabic Studies at Birzeit University. She is currently doing a Masters program in Military Studies at the University of Potsdam, Germany.

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  1. ritzl on July 17, 2015, 9:44 am

    What Merkel also fails to consider is that her government is providing Israel with the weapons to keep Reem and her family in the refugee camps and kill them PRN, for Israel’s propaganda/victimhood purposes.

    I hope that Karma is a cruel as Merkel explains politics to be.

    And I keep coming back to the scene in the movie “Contact” where this situation is [not so] fictionalized. One character gives the Merkel desiderata explanation, and the response is that the world is what “we” (I suppose “we” would include Merkel) make of it. Tru dat.

    https://youtu.be/HWehrti0U5U

    (Interesting that the subtitles are in Arabic on this upload.)

  2. CigarGod on July 17, 2015, 10:12 am

    Good article, Rebecca; and good point, Ritzl. This is a perfect opportunity…for an opportunistic German leader, to broaden the context, to include Israel’s responsibility.

    • ritzl on July 17, 2015, 10:42 am

      Yep, CigarGod. Broaden in at least a couple of ways.

      1) Apparently this girl is a immigrant-myth-exploding class president. Apparently a majority of her classmates (future voters) want her to stay. That would make this an oops on every level.

      http://www.pecand.com/angela-merkel-made-a-girl-facing-deportation-cry-by-saying-germany-couldnt-cope-with-refugees/

      2) Maybe this causes people in Germany and everywhere else to begin to have a clue that all the “Western” destabilization and killing causes these poor refugees to have no where else to go but to the countries supporting, if not causing, the killing in their own lands. IOW, safely behind the lines.

      Maybe also, it starts making people see and question the insanity of the Israelification of everything in the MENA. This whole “kill them and make them stay put (in pens) so we or somebody else can kill them later” world view is viscerally repugnant.

      This garbage worldview, and the psychopathy that generates it, is so pervasive that I keep wanting to say I give up, but that really isn’t an option.

      • CigarGod on July 17, 2015, 10:56 am

        Class Prez?
        That puts fuel in my tank!
        Our friend, Just, posted a Max B. Link and he talks about all the Palestinian leaders either dead or in prison. I regularly hear criticism that the Palestinians must free themselves. I’ve even heard this from who I thought were Palestinians or Arabs. When one understands that this generation of leaders is pretty much gone…I feel the ball is in our court…and we must control it until a new generation of leaders can handle it.

      • just on July 17, 2015, 11:15 am

        An enormous “oops”! Thank you for the info.

        “This garbage worldview, and the psychopathy that generates it, is so pervasive that I keep wanting to say I give up, but that really isn’t an option.”

        Amen to that, ritzl.

      • Kris on July 17, 2015, 11:33 am

        @ritzl: “This garbage worldview,…”

        You reminded me of the photo in this article http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/angela-merkel-makes-palestinian-girl-facing-deportation-from-germany-cry-on-television-10393719.html
        of Palestinian kids scavenging in a garbage dump in the Shatila refugee camp in Beirut.

  3. Citizen on July 17, 2015, 10:23 am

    Churchill said “The Germans are either at your feet or at your throat.”
    They seem bereft of wisdom as a collective agent, eh?

    • on July 17, 2015, 10:50 am

      Churchill was a moron. The prime member of the final and fully watered down generation of English empire. Kind of where the ruling Zionist elite are right now

      • CigarGod on July 17, 2015, 11:08 am

        Yes, he always gives the impression of excess and racist entitlement. A buffoon. Perhaps a hybrid of a noble tea party buffoon.

      • on July 17, 2015, 12:05 pm

        Seems that Churchill and William Tecumseh Sherman are passing each other in the elevator. Seen more negative things written about Churchill in last three years than previous 30; seen more favorable things written about Sherman in the last three years than previous 40.

  4. ckg on July 17, 2015, 10:25 am

    Very touching. A few weeks ago, CNN broadcast Anthony Bourdain: Parts Unknown Return to Beirut episode, Bourdain listened to a Palestinian english teacher who had fled Syria during the civil war. The Palestinian was unable to work in Lebanon and unable to leave the refugee camp in Beirut lest he be “collected and thrown back to Syria.” The Palestinian explained, “We have no area in the world. We have no place in this universe. We belong to nowhere. Nowhere.”

    • CigarGod on July 17, 2015, 10:31 am

      Nice!
      Last I heard, Andrew Zimmern…of another traveling food show…refused to visit any Arab/Muslim nations.

      • ckg on July 17, 2015, 11:19 am

        I hadn’t heard that CG. I know both have filmed here in Dearborn. On No Reservations Bourdain dined at a popular Lebanese restaurant and ate traditional arabic fare, whereas Zimmern ate down the street at less-known establishment and had a lambs brain sandwich. Zimmern can seem respectful, but I find the show’s title Bizarre Foods just a bit condescending.

    • just on July 17, 2015, 10:59 am

      I saw that, ckg. Bourdain is doing some important work.

      “Last I heard, Andrew Zimmern…of another traveling food show…refused to visit any Arab/Muslim nations.”

      Had not heard that, CigarGod~ I’ve seen him report from more than a few Arab/Muslim nations.

      • CigarGod on July 17, 2015, 11:05 am

        My info is old. I recall going to his schedule a few years ago, and nary a one. Perhaps he has seen the light.

    • ritzl on July 17, 2015, 11:06 am

      Thanks, ckg.

      • ckg on July 17, 2015, 6:07 pm

        It’s definitely worth watching, lysias. Bourdain ends the episode with a depressing line. “In the real world, good people and bad alike are often crushed under the same terrible wheel.”

      • ckg on July 17, 2015, 6:21 pm

        I mean ritzl–sorry.

    • Kay24 on July 17, 2015, 12:15 pm

      Anthony Bourdain has a soft spot for Lebanon. I think he was also there the last time Israel bombed Lebanon, and it gave him an insight into how nasty Israel can be.

      • ckg on July 17, 2015, 1:12 pm

        Kay, in this episode he replays some of his footage from that Israeli war on Lebanon including from the airport. (A few relatives of my wife were in the airport when the runways were being bombed.)

      • ckg on July 17, 2015, 6:28 pm

        Kay, Bourdain remembered his previous trip to Beirut: “That experience changed everything for me. One day I was making television about eating and drinking. The next, I was watching the airport I’d just landed in a few days earlier being blown up across the water from my hotel window.”

      • Kay24 on July 18, 2015, 2:40 pm

        I can understand how you could have changed your outlook about this situation. I think AB felt the same way and he was disgusted at what Israel did, I think it shook him. I remember he was awarded some award by the Palestinians recently.

  5. a blah chick on July 17, 2015, 10:45 am

    Gee, if only those stateless Palestinians had their own country…

    Oh, wait, they did.

  6. ritzl on July 17, 2015, 11:14 am

    And lest we forget, Merkel so loved this stroking treatment that she felt obligated to share the love — or the condescension, you make the call:

    • just on July 17, 2015, 11:17 am

      HA! I was just about to post that, ritzl!

      Well, now Merkel “creeps out” many people.

  7. tarski on July 17, 2015, 12:05 pm

    Sorry, but this is of the most bullshit articles ever on this site, just behind theother one about Germany recently. Germany has no strict immigration policies, quite the contrary. The US and Canda for example are much harder on new immigrants.

    I have no problem with studious young people living in Germany but to write such unfounded claims about our policies, wow. Research is not your strong suit, Rebecca, is it?

    And it is not our fault that Palestinians are displaced. We should perhaps not trade with Israel or send them weapons. But this “latest victim of the holocaust” bullshit is just another intrumentalisation of the holocaust.

    • German Lefty on July 17, 2015, 1:29 pm

      I totally agree with you, tarski! Germany takes in so many refugees that refugee hostels can’t be created fast enough. Other European countries, however, don’t want to take in any refugees.

    • ritzl on July 17, 2015, 1:52 pm

      tarski, What a strange takeaway. This and Deger’s article are only subtextually about the nuts and bolts of broader German refugee policy.

      They’re explicitly about the deadly, cold-blooded hypocrisy of specifically and uniquely Palestinian treatment at the hands of the governments that cause and perpetuate their condition by supplying Israel with all the tools – military, political, and diplomatic – it needs to do negate Palestinian identity and force them into deportatable refugee status anywhere outside their Western-funded and Israeli-built and maintained cages.

      Germany (and the US and other such “enlightened” countries) have not recognized the State of Palestine. That FORCES bright/sincere/motivated Palestinians like this girl to literally escape their pens in pursuit of a better life that is simply denied them through “legal” means. They must do this by dangerous and “illegal” means, only to risk deportations. This girl simply did not, and does not, have the option to apply for a visa to study in Germany/US and return home when finished. She is trapped, “legally” speaking. She has no “home” to return to, even if she could and did get out and better herself. All this is by design. Everyone in that auditorium knows all this. EVERYONE.

      So Merkel, as a principal architect of this situation, sought to console this girl with her “life is tough” spiel knowing full well she was the one making her life “tough.”

      Nope. This wasn’t a policy question/moment. It is an ongoing passion play. Ongoing over generations of Palestinians, I might add.

      No policy research required. The moment was stand-alone and self-explanatory. The girl (Reem) exploded in the insincerity-amplified helplessness/hopelessness of her situation. She got it exactly right and so did most of the rest of us normal people, right alongside her.

      • bintbiba on July 17, 2015, 2:04 pm

        ritzl , +100

        Thank you .

      • diasp0ra on July 19, 2015, 9:37 am

        +1!

    • Mike Robeson on July 18, 2015, 7:34 pm

      Dear Tarski, You’ve stated exactly my sentiments. I am an ex pat living in a southern German city of sixty five thousand people near Munich. The city provides refuge for over 1,000 refugees from the Middle East and Africa. I have personally met over one hundred of them through local refugee care centers and have spoken at length with a number of them as well as with local caregivers about their situation in the EU. Each refugee in Germany receives a monthly cash payment of 140 Euros for food and over 250 Euros per months for personal expenditures. They also receive free lodging and free medical care. After receiving the permanent papers, all of them receive free work training and free employment assistance. Their benefits continue until after they have obtained employment, and they will at that time obtain the same benefits as all working Germans. Each person seeking to qualify for asylum and to remain in Germany is provided free lodging, food and medical care during the legal process. Ms.Burkerts story is not merely an outrageous distortion, but also an ad hominem attack on Germany, which everyone knows is still full of Nazis. As for the refugees themselves, the vast majority of the Syrian refugees have paid the mafia upwards of 10,000 Euros to escape their war torn country. Many come here not just to escape the horrible conditions, but also because they are looking for a better life; and many of them expect the EU to give it to them. Almost all of them have been tutored by fellow refugees, and by German care workers, about how to navigate the system, and what to say and what not to say in order to obtain permanent refugee status. Over half of the refugees I spoke to regularly earn illegal income by working “black” jobs for German companies whose hiring them prevents German workers from obtaining a legal job and paying taxes. Also, at least three of the refugees I’ve met are involved in the local drug trade. Such people give a bad reputation to the many refugees who have escaped the destruction of their homelands and who are very grateful for the assistance they receive and who genuinely try to integrate themselves and to start a new life in a very different culture from their own. Respectable Germans know that openly criticizing immigration policy and its costs to taxpayers and to the social fabric quickly results in being branded a racist, or a neo Nazi. Merkel has worsened the situation by her insinuations that objections to her policy is one or both. She is dishonest with German citizens in not giving a time frame for how long their taxes will continue to pay for the refugees. She also does not explain that the immigrants are needed as workers for the big German corporations and as taxpayers who will help foot the pension bills for a generation of retiring Germans who did not produce enough children to foot those bills for their parents. Needless to say, she also says nothing about the primary cause of the refugee crisis are the US and Israeli led and instigated wars against Arab countries, which Germany and the EU does nothing to stop.

      • Mooser on July 19, 2015, 10:55 am

        “Ms.Burkerts story is not merely an outrageous distortion, but also an ad hominem attack on Germany, which everyone knows is still full of Nazis”

        They didn’t take care of that after WW2? Very alarming news. You might think about it this way; nobody can accuse the immigrants in Germany of being Nazis, they couldn’t possibly have been there at the time. That’s a big plus for them.

  8. WH on July 17, 2015, 12:18 pm

    For those who speak German, here’s some additional information: http://www.watson.ch/International/articles/394189666-Fl%C3%BCchtlingsm%C3%A4dchen-wird-offenbar-gar-nicht-abgeschoben–ARD-unterschl%C3%A4gt-entscheidende-3-5-Minuten-des-Merkel-Videos
    Turns out that the viral clip was a short extract after a more extensive and nuanced description of refugee problematics in which she pointed out that families like Reem’s who have settled and integrated are not likely to be deported. So the impression conveyed was somewhat skewed, whatever one thinks of the policies.

    • eljay on July 17, 2015, 12:59 pm

      || WH: Turns out that the viral clip was a short extract after a more extensive and nuanced description of refugee problematics … So the impression conveyed was somewhat skewed, whatever one thinks of the policies. ||

      Thanks for that. It explains the seemingly-sudden breakdown.

    • ritzl on July 17, 2015, 1:57 pm

      Sorry I don’t speak German. Nuanced in what way?

  9. just on July 17, 2015, 12:56 pm

    Thanks so much, WH.

    “Palestinian girl defends Merkel in wake of viral video controversy

    ‘She listened, and she gave her opinion, and I think that is fair enough,’ 14-year-old Reem says a day after German leader’s controversial response to girl’s comments about her family’s fears of deportation from Germany.”

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/1.666578

    Class.

    • eljay on July 17, 2015, 1:00 pm

      || just: Thanks so much, WH. ||

      +1.

      || “Palestinian girl defends Merkel in wake of viral video controversy

      ‘She listened, and she gave her opinion, and I think that is fair enough,’ 14-year-old Reem says … ”

      Class. ||

      +1 again. :-)

    • CigarGod on July 17, 2015, 1:04 pm

      Yes, but I’m glad it gave us an opportunity to explore the issue much deeper. Far deeper than Angela probably ever will.

    • ritzl on July 17, 2015, 2:12 pm

      Haaretz title: “Palestinian girl defends Merkel in wake of viral video controversy.”

      Agree. Class.

      But I’m going to be a bit cynical on this one, just.

      To fix the Haaretz title:

      “Palestinian girl who’s entire family is facing deportation to a refugee camp in Lebanon, defends Merkel (who is the Prime Minister of the country threatening that deportation) in wake of viral video controversy.”

      This is a big public poke in the eye for Merkel. I wonder if she is the forgiving type, or is it “Get me that damn file!” as soon as she gets in the limo?

      • just on July 17, 2015, 2:19 pm

        Agreed, ritzl!

        Thanks, bintbiba (below). I wish the very same thing for Reem and her family. Her fluency in German is impressive. Wanna bet she is equally fluent in English? And she’s class president…

      • WH on July 17, 2015, 5:28 pm

        Well actually, she’s not facing deportation. That’s one thing that was obscured by the sensationalist over-editing.

      • annie on July 17, 2015, 5:46 pm

        do you have a supporting link WH?

      • ritzl on July 17, 2015, 6:11 pm

        Yes, WH. Because she’s “integrated” into German society, the consensus seems to be she probably won’t be. I should have said “imminent” deportation to be clearer. But…she is not NOT facing it either.

        She’s in limbo and still at risk.

      • annie on July 17, 2015, 6:17 pm

        she’s facing it until they get word from the german government that they can stay, are they not?

      • just on July 17, 2015, 6:42 pm

        “Teenage asylum seeker who confronted Merkel allowed to stay in Germany

        A teenage Palestinian asylum seeker who burst into tears in front of Angela Merkel during a televised debate will be allowed to stay in Germany, officials said on Friday. Merkel’s encounter with the teenager named Reem – who speaks perfect German – went viral on the internet. The debate, entitled Good Life in Germany, took place in the northern city of Rostock.

        “I don’t know the personal situation of this young girl, but she speaks fluent German and has visibly lived here for a long time,” said the minister for integration, Aydan Ozoguz, according to the website of Spiegel weekly. “This is exactly why we changed the law, so that well-integrated youths can have a new residency permit through a new immigration law that came into force in August.”

        During the discussion, Reem told Merkel that she and her family, who arrived in Rostock from a Lebanese refugee camp four years ago, faced deportation. “I have goals like anyone else. I want to study like them … it’s very unpleasant to see how others can enjoy life, and I can’t myself,” she said.

        The mayor of Rostock’s spokesman told the daily Tagesspiegel that he had no intention of sending Reem and her family back. …

        …Germany took in 200,000 asylum seekers last year and expects as many as 450,000 this year.”

        http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/17/teenage-reem-asylum-seeker-merkel-tv-allowed-stay-germany

        Yessss. Eid Mubarak! One family out of millions…hopefully all Palestinians will live free soon~ in their own land, in Palestine or wherever they want to emigrate lawfully. Just like other people.

      • Kris on July 17, 2015, 9:17 pm

        @just: “One family out of millions…”

        Exactly. Reem and her family have been saved only because Merkel knows what would happen if Germany sent this girl and her family back to the refugee camps in Lebanon, and someone then posted videos of Reem and her siblings scavenging in the garbage dumps for food and sellable items, just like the other Palestinian kids there.

        Palestinians should all be granted German citizenship immediately, since it is thanks in large part to Germany that the Zionists were able to implement their plan of ethnically cleansing Palestine.

      • ritzl on July 17, 2015, 10:12 pm

        “…allowed to stay…”

        Great news, just. Yer amazing!

        I hope someone writes an article about how that decision came about so quickly after this incident. Or her movie script path from escape to asylum, complete with happy ending. Made for TV, this is.

        As you say, millions minus 1 still waiting for some form of justice, anywhere, from anyone. Maybe Reem can be/will be another inspirational and transformative figure in that process – like Mohammed Assaf and Raed Zidan (first Palestinian to summit Everest; http://raedzidan.com/).

        As an aside, I bet those three Palestinian heros represent a second dire threat to Israel (first being Iran NOT developing a bomb) — Palestinian achievement and notoriety developing freely outside of Israel’s ability to limit it. It would be great to see all three of these folks go on a speaking tour together.

        And needless to say, there are millions more Palestinian heroes climbing their own personal Everests every single time they use the Qalandia checkpoint, or rebuild their illegally demolished homes, or just live another day in Gaza.

        Again, good news.

      • Mooser on July 18, 2015, 10:43 am

        “Palestinians should all be granted German citizenship immediately, since it is thanks in large part to Germany that the Zionists were able to implement their plan of ethnically cleansing Palestine.”

        You know, you are right. But gosh, Germany shouldn’t be entirely responsible. Lotta countries could share in that!

        Gee, why can’t the Palestinians have the same choices as Jewish kids all over the world, who can, as the execrable Yonah says “trade in” their futures in their home countries (which they can always scuttle back to) for a new Israeli future.

    • bintbiba on July 17, 2015, 2:14 pm

      @just July 17, 2015, 12:56 pm

      “Thanks so much, WH.

      “Palestinian girl defends Merkel in wake of viral video controversy

      ‘She listened, and she gave her opinion, and I think that is fair enough,’ 14-year-old Reem says a day after German leader’s controversial response to girl’s comments about her family’s fears of deportation from Germany.”

      link to haaretz.com

      Class.” +100

      – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/07/everyone-allowed-germany/comment-page-1#comment-782640

      Reem is mature beyond her years !

      I hope she and her family get to stay and make a decent life for themselves!
      Then one fine day she can (maybe ) go back with her degrees to a Palestine she can help be reborn and flourish by her shining example .

      • ritzl on July 17, 2015, 10:35 pm

        Hi bintbiba.

        “Then one fine day she can (maybe) go back with her degrees to a Palestine she can help be reborn and flourish by her shining example.”

        I think this is the core of why this particular story got me so good-agitated. This has turned out to be a remarkable “local girl makes good” story. Everybody and their cousin can identify with that. Everybody and their cousin now identify with yet another Palestinian doing that.

        I mean “Palestinian refugee in Germany courageously discusses her status with the German Prime Minister and is subsequently notified she will be given asylum.” It just oozes simple, uplifting, heartwarming serendipity (aka magic).

        I don’t know. Good stuff.

  10. eGuard on July 17, 2015, 6:56 pm

    Merkel’s behaviour is nevertheless an honest one.

    Not quite accurate. It is revealing her mind indeed, as in: for once, she lost her PR shield. This may also be called a gaffe: when a politician unintendedly tells the truth. All this is not “honest” as in: not lying. Let’s not make it a compliment for a politician when he/she does by exception what is common for non-politicians: not lying.

    Two more worrying remarks by her exposed her mindset: she said “Africa” as if Lebanon is in Africa. And when the presentor noted quite correctly that it was not about the girl “doing a good job”, Merkel snapped back that she knew that. In other words: Merkel was deliberately diverting, and did not like to be caught on that.

  11. ckg on July 17, 2015, 7:42 pm

    As a Detroit area resident, I find all anti immigration rhetoric unsettling. The mayor’s top priority here is to tear down as many abandoned homes as possible because there is no one to live in them. They have all left for the sunny desert states where there is no water. Yet Arab immigrants have revitalized areas of the metro area with entrepreneurial spirit. Some areas of Dearborn have seen property values increase perhaps ten-fold. For twenty-five years I have eaten at a Lebanese bakery that began in a dilapidated, run-down building. Now the property is worth over $2M. And these are the unwanted others we now won’t welcome. yeesh

    • just on July 17, 2015, 7:46 pm

      Thanks for that great comment, ckg!

    • Kris on July 17, 2015, 9:33 pm

      I wonder what would happen if we offered U.S. citizenship, combined with very generous financial and educational incentives, living expenses, as well as land and houses in a large contiguous area, to every single Palestinian. We owe them much more than this, anyway, for all the crimes against them that we have supported and financed for Israel.

      Maybe we would save a lot of money by not spending all our resources on wars. Certainly we would have a lot of nice new friends and neighbors.

      • Kris on July 17, 2015, 9:48 pm

        I hasten to add that I realize how heartbreaking it would be for the Palestinians to move from their land, and that what should happen is that Israel should be forced to obey international law.

      • annie on July 17, 2015, 9:49 pm

        better to ask how much it would cost to buy off jews to leave jerusalem. no? U.S. citizenship, combined with very generous financial and educational incentives, living expenses, as well as land and houses in a large contiguous area. or we could just stop funding israel and protecting them at the UN, that would undoubtedly decease the population there — cheaper too.

      • annie on July 17, 2015, 9:53 pm

        oh, and i too I hasten to add that I realize how heartbreaking it would be for Jews to move from Palestinian land.

        but it wouldn’t break my heart. it would also clear up reem’s problem…and germany’s wrt palestinian refugees. actually, didn’t germany offer .. oh never mind — detroit should work out just fine for jewish israeli refugees. and as far as i know so many of them already have US citizenship — unlike so many palestinians refugees who could just, finally, go home.

      • Kris on July 17, 2015, 10:29 pm

        Of course you’re right, Annie.

        It’s just that I am feeling so sad, thinking of my children and grandchildren and all the opportunities and joyful experiences they can take for granted, while my Palestinian counterparts see their own children and grandchildren abused and killed by the IDF.

        Sitting here knitting a baby sweater, I suddenly remembered Shaden Abu Hijleh, who was sitting on her porch with her husband and son, knitting, when IDF troops killed her.

        Today was the funeral of Shaden Abu Hijleh, a teacher, social activist, humanitarian, wife, mother, and good friend to everyone. Shaden was murdered in cold blood on Friday evening while she was knitting on the steps to the veranda of her home in Nablus. Her husband Dr. Jamal, and her son Sa’ed, an engineer, who were also sitting near her, were injured but have survived their shrapnel wounds. The soldiers who committed this war crime in front of dozens of eye-witnesses have denied being in the area or at the scene of the shooting. They claim they were not the ones who pulled the triggers.

        https://electronicintifada.net/content/funeral-shaden-abu-hijleh/4154

        “Condolences are offered to the family and friends of Shaden Abu Hijleh, who was shot dead in her home in Nablus, Palestine, by an Israeli occupation soldier on Friday. Shaden Abu Hijleh was sitting in front of her glass balcony inside her house with her husband, Dr. Jamal Abu Hijleh, and her son Saed, a professor of social geography at Najah University in Nablus, when she was shot. According to her family members, an Israeli jeep stopped in front of the family’s house, a soldier got out, went to the back of the jeep, picked up a weapon and opened fire at the Abu Hijlehs. http://articles.courant.com/2002-10-23/news/0210230262_1_shaden-abu-hijleh-israeli-gunfire-soldier

        This was in 2002. So much suffering and so many deaths ago. Maybe the thing to do with Israel is help the sane people leave, and then isolate the rest, sort of a Devil’s Island.

      • wondering jew on July 18, 2015, 4:07 am

        annie- sentiment regarding: if only the Jews can be convinced to leave, are sentiments rather than a plan. ugly sentiments? can be construed that way. but certainly sentiments rather than a plan.

      • German Lefty on July 18, 2015, 8:51 am

        “I wonder what would happen if we offered U.S. citizenship, combined with very generous financial and educational incentives, living expenses, as well as land and houses in a large contiguous area, to every single Palestinian.”

        The Zionists would be happy that the USA tries to help Israel get rid of those nasty natives.
        Besides, it might come as a shock to US citizens, but most non-US citizens do NOT regard the USA as the greatest country in the world. I find it funny that many US citizens idolise their country so much that they automatically assume that everyone else on the planet loves the USA as much as they do.

      • catalan on July 18, 2015, 9:09 am

        “I find it funny that many US citizens idolise their country so much that they automatically assume that everyone else on the planet loves the USA as much as they do. – ” GL
        A million legal and possibly a million illegal immigrants a year speaks for itself. I find it comical when Europeans so idolize their countries that they think nobody would want to live anywhere else.
        Take it from a fellow European – the U.S. is much more tolerant than most European countries towards immigrants. Especially when you get away from the East Coast. And we don’t dub foreign movies like in Germany to protect the language. Subtitles.

      • German Lefty on July 18, 2015, 9:10 am

        @ yonah fredman
        Believe it or not, but removing the settlers is one possible solution to end settler-colonialism.

      • Kris on July 18, 2015, 10:13 am

        German Lefty, I hope you aren’t including me in the group of Americans who “idolise their country.”

        Far from it. I suggested U.S. citizenship and support because the U.S. is my country, and, like Germany, owes the Palestinians huge reparations.

        If Palestinians did want to come to the U.S., our country would be the better for having them here. The same is not true of bringing back the Zionists, since we have more than enough vicious racist sociopaths here, already.

      • wondering jew on July 18, 2015, 10:25 am

        German Lefty- Oh, I believe it. But it certainly is not a solution that will work in the short range and if you wish to wait that long in order to solve it or if you envision great violence in order to solve it, you are not talking about a solution that greatly interests me.

      • Mooser on July 18, 2015, 10:54 am

        “German Lefty- Oh, I believe it. But it certainly is not a solution that will work in the short range and if you wish to wait that long in order to solve it or if you envision great violence in order to solve it, you are not talking about a solution that greatly interests me.”

        What possible violence, Yonah? What possible trouble could there be? The Government of Israel announces the settlers (you know, the freebooters and filibusterers) must move, area by area, okay, they will probably get compensation, and the Government of Israel, their fellow Jews, and the glorious IDF, will help them, tenderly and carefully, move out. Done deal.

        I mean Yonah, are you telling us that if the settlers the freebooters and filibusterers, are told to move out of their illegal areas, they will start shooting Jews? They will point their guns and mortars and machine guns at Jewish IDF soldiers who are there to help them? Nah, won’t happen. Jews don’t kill other Jews.

        So Yonah, who is it you are really for in this mess? It’s not Israel, it’s the settlers. You support them above Israel.

      • German Lefty on July 18, 2015, 1:37 pm

        @ catalan
        “A million legal and possibly a million illegal immigrants a year speaks for itself.”
        -> A few million immigrants out of 7 billion people aren’t that many.

        “I find it comical when Europeans so idolize their countries that they think nobody would want to live anywhere else.”
        -> Who are you talking about? I have never said that and I don’t know anyone who thinks like that.

        “The U.S. is much more tolerant than most European countries towards immigrants.”
        -> Well, the USA was founded by immigrants after slaughtering most of the natives.

      • German Lefty on July 18, 2015, 2:25 pm

        Kris: “I suggested U.S. citizenship and support because the U.S. is my country, and, like Germany, owes the Palestinians huge reparations.”

        I don’t think that the USA and Germany owe the Palestinians huge reparations. Two reasons:
        – The main culprit is Israel and therefore it’s Israel that has to pay these reparations. Israel can use the money that it received from the USA (military aid) and from Germany (Holocaust reparations).
        – The USA and Germany are complicit in Israel’s crimes. No doubt about that. However, US and German politicians support Israel’s crimes against the will of their respective people. It would be totally unfair to make German taxpayers pay reparations for crimes that their country supports against their will. Otherwise, you would also have to say that all Jews – including anti-Zionist Jews – need to pay reparations to the Palestinians because Israel’s crimes are committed in the name of all Jews.
        If anything, only those US and German citizens who actually are Zionists should pay reparations. Germans have been collectively punished long enough. We are totally fed up with this shit. If the Palestinians have the desire to collectively punish all Germans for Germany‘s complicity in Israel’s crimes, then I withdraw my support for the Palestinian cause. It’s already unfair enough that present-day Germans have to pay reparations for crimes committed by Nazi Germans. If additionally all the non-Zionist Germans had to pay reparations for crimes supported by the few Zionist Germans, then we might as well end it all.

      • annie on July 18, 2015, 4:34 pm

        It’s already unfair enough that present-day Germans have to pay reparations for crimes committed by Nazi Germans. If additionally all the non-Zionist Germans had to pay reparations for crimes supported by the few Zionist Germans, then we might as well end it all.

        just as an exercise in viewing this from another angle – if parents who owned a booming business with lots of debt died and left the family business equally to 7 children do you think it would be fair for one of the children to say “i don’t want to pay that debt because i never approved of my father making that particular investment on behalf of the company which i am now part owner of. and besides, he incurred that debt way before i was born. wheras, my sister was alive then and supported that investment, the debt should come out of her portion of the business.”

      • German Lefty on July 18, 2015, 5:54 pm

        @ Annie
        That’s not a comparable situation. A business is not a crime. A business can be inherited, a criminal record can’t. How about this scenario: A murderer is sentenced to 25 years in prison. However, he dies after 5 years in prison. Should his innocent son be imprisoned for 20 years to complete his father’s sentence?
        Besides, I also object to the fact that the Holocaust reparations are paid to the state of Israel, which didn’t even exist during WWII. There’s a big problem with this: When Israel collects Holocaust reparations, it does so in the name of THE Jewish people. Now, people could draw the following conclusion: If Israel represents all Jews in case of Holocaust reparations, then Israel also represents all Jews in case of crimes against Palestinians.

      • annie on July 18, 2015, 6:06 pm

        i suggest you look up the meaning of (quoting you) “reparations” GL. ‘a form of compensatory payment made to victim or the descendants’. it very much is like paying off a debt to society.

        A business can be inherited, a criminal record can’t.

        but a debt(reparations) stemming from a criminal act can very much be inherited if there is an inheritance. in fact it is often extracted from the inheritance before it is paid out. yep, one can certainly go after the estate of the deceased for reparations. you’re right tho, the criminal record can’t be inherited.

        refusing to answer the question on the basis of “not comparable” is a cop out in this circumstance. and since no one is talking about putting germans in prison it’s really not applicable. the topic is money or compensation, not incarceration.

      • German Lefty on July 18, 2015, 6:21 pm

        @ Annie
        I see what you mean. However, Germans have already paid enough. Also, Nazi Germany was a dictatorship. Therefore, the people (as a whole) can’t be held accountable for the crimes of the country. And you also need to consider that there are Germans whose ancestors immigrated to Germany after WWII. So, demanding reparations from Germans as a collective is not okay.

      • catalan on July 18, 2015, 6:21 pm

        “If Israel represents all Jews in case of Holocaust reparations, then Israel also represents all Jews in case of crimes against Palestinians.” – GL
        Seeing as to the behavior of Germans in the war of 1871 and the two world wars, I think any reparations are simply laughably inappropriate. Much wiser for Europe and the rest of the world would have been to split the place up among France, Italy, Poland, Denmark, Belgium, the Netherlands, and the Czech Republic. Now that’s a Europe one can imagine being a wonderful place. The Germans could still enjoy limited rights like they do in Alsace, South Tirol, etc.
        One wonders why that never happened in spite of the overwhelming evidence that the country is unable to exist normally. Many of the current economic problems of Europe would not exist either. Not too late?

      • annie on July 18, 2015, 6:27 pm

        Otherwise, you would also have to say that all Jews – including anti-Zionist Jews – need to pay reparations to the Palestinians because Israel’s crimes are committed in the name of all Jews.

        don’t confuse facts with propaganda. legal bodies don’t recognize who perpetrators of crimes claim wrt who they are acting on behalf of. if i rob a bank i can’t say ‘i robbed it on behalf of my father, therefore he should pay the price”.

        crimes committed by the government of a state body — like israel, or germany or the US, are paid by the state. if that means your tax dollar, so be it.

      • annie on July 18, 2015, 8:57 pm

        Germans have already paid enough.

        then your country should stop giving israel money. as long as you are, you are complicit in their crimes, as the US is.

        i’m actually not arguing with you because i think you should pay reparations to palestine. i am arguing because your arguments thus far are very weak.

        there could have been another option. instead of endless decades of money – some kind of marshal plan that had an end point coupled w/germany turning over a county or area for jewish refugees as a reparation instead of world bodies punishing palestinians for nazi genocide. the reason palestinians are suffering today and you and germany can feel like you deserve putting it past you is because palestinians have taken the brunt of germany’s crime. in light of this, you should take in at least 1/2 million palestinian refugees and offer them citizenship. then it’s reasonable to forget about it. but as long as germany is helping to fund israeli oppression of palestine, it’s your business too. as long as there are palestinian refugees, it’s your business. you can’t wash your hands of it — morally speaking.

        so we can either pass it on to our children or take responsibility and fix it. that’s why we’re here. it’s our problem. we had a world war and palestinians are still paying the price. not fair.

      • RoHa on July 18, 2015, 9:56 pm

        “do you think it would be fair for one of the children to say “i don’t want to pay that debt because …”
        “but a debt(reparations) stemming from a criminal act can very much be inherited if there is an inheritance. in fact it is often extracted from the inheritance before it is paid out.”

        It looks to me as though you are confusing the legal with the moral. In the second case, I think you are referring to legal obligations, whereas in the first case the child is denying a moral obligation. And I think the child does have grounds for rejecting that moral obligation.

        One could point out that the child did not pay a share of the debt, he would “undeservingly” profit from it, but every one of us who is born into an improved world profits equally “undeservingly” from the efforts of our forebears.

        (Undeserving in the sense that the profit is not from the efforts of the one who benefits.)

      • RoHa on July 18, 2015, 10:36 pm

        Should be “One could point out that if the child did not pay…”

      • Mooser on July 19, 2015, 11:04 am

        .” in fact it is often extracted from the inheritance before it is paid out. “

        It is always extracted from the ‘estate’ (not ‘the inheritance’) before the will is settled.

        It’s called “probate”. A will isn’t executed until a period in which anybody who has claims against the deceased or his estate can submit them. The executor pays them, or if the executor says no, it’s off to “probate court”

        So yes, you can inherit debt. The debt is paid out of the estate before the will is executed.

      • German Lefty on July 19, 2015, 5:22 pm

        @ Mooser

        The operative word is “before”. Nazi-era Germans are dead and their will was already executed. That’s why it doesn’t make any sense that present-day Germans still pay reparations. The time of paying the debt is over.

      • annie on July 19, 2015, 10:18 pm

        The time of paying the debt is over.

        try telling that to the courts. sorry gl, life isn’t always fair. an example, some piece of art if located in some museum decades later. can the museum say to the heirs, the people who stole that are dead, therefore, finders keepers losers weeper. not really. you’re gonna owe big time.

      • annie on July 19, 2015, 10:51 pm

        mooser

        It is always extracted from the ‘estate’ (not ‘the inheritance’) before the will is settled.

        It’s called “probate”.

        not always. we were discussing crime, reparations and debt. sometimes those crimes are exposed long after a person is dead and their estate has already been distributed. in that case a person can go after the heirs of the estate. (i think)

      • Mooser on July 20, 2015, 12:46 pm

        “but it wouldn’t break my heart.”

        Hophmi was right! I bet you don’t even care enough about the Jewish birth-rate, either!

        “sometimes those crimes are exposed long after a person is dead and their estate has already been distributed. in that case a person can go after the heirs of the estate.”

        Yes, that could happen but normally, there is a period during which claims against an estate are submitted and paid, or refused, and off we go to court. Hopefully, after all claims are adjudicated, the estate is distributed.

        And don’t forget, an inheritance is a gift, it is not an obligation! No Zionist parent has to leave a penny of their hard-earned money to anti-Zionist kids!

      • michelle on July 21, 2015, 9:17 am

        .
        one wonders who is actually receiving/spending the Holocaust ‘payoff’
        many suffer injustice few get paid and even fewer get paid so much
        .
        even without the details
        it does seem like the payment amount would be less each year
        to the point that by now it would be nothing or almost nothing
        otherwise the forever the victim analogy is once again renforced
        .
        G-d Bless
        .

    • ckg on July 18, 2015, 12:15 pm

      In a NYT op-ed in May, a Stanford professor proposed settling Syrian refugees in Detroit. Unfortunately the readers pick comments were uniformly hostile and ridiculing of the proposal.
      http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/05/15/opinion/let-syrians-settle-detroit.html

  12. JLewisDickerson on July 17, 2015, 10:05 pm

    RE: “The scene reflects a perfect microcosm of Germany’s rigid migration policy and . . .” ~ Rebecca Burkert

    FROM the German TV mini-seres Generation War (2013):
    “A good German always obeys the law.”

    Generation War
    2013 NR 1 season
    Average of 93044 ratings: 4.3 stars
    Five young friends meet in Berlin in 1941, just before their lives are about to change forever. Arranging to gather again the following Christmas, their plans are sidetracked by the events of World War II, which tear them apart.
    Cast: Volker Bruch, Tom Schilling, Katharina Schüttler, Ludwig Trepte, Miriam Stein
    NETFLIX LISTING – http://dvd.netflix.com/Movie/Generation-War/70287758
    Internet Movie Database (8.5/10) – http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1883092/

    • JLewisDickerson on July 17, 2015, 10:27 pm

      P.S. IMDB:
      The Decent One (2014)
      96 min | Documentary, Drama, History
      Ratings: 7.2/10 from 56 users

      Through previously undiscovered private letters, photos and diaries that were found in the Himmler family house in 1945, the ‘The Decent One’ exposes a unique and at times uncomfortable access to the life and mind of the merciless ‘Architect of the Final Solution’.
      SOURCE – http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4545668/

      NETFLIX (streaming) – http://www.netflix.com/title/80013764
      ALSO ON YouTube: BBC Documentary 2015 | Himmler The Decent One ( History Documentary ) [VIDEO, 1:15:47] – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgWMlRzgvd4

    • German Lefty on July 18, 2015, 8:55 am

      I want to point out that I find your Gravatar disturbing.

      • Mooser on July 18, 2015, 10:58 am

        “I want to point out that I find your Gravatar disturbing.”

        So do I! Just the other day, it was a cute Chocolate Lab dog, which looked exactly like my dog. And now it’s gone! I’m already in a swivet over the reddish cast to her coat and her size (she’s as big as a calf!) and I watch her like a hawk!
        JL Dickerson, what happened to that dog?

      • Mooser on July 19, 2015, 11:08 am

        Awwww, the cute doggie is back! What a darling dog! There is nothing disturbing about that dog, rather, the opposite. Makes you feel good just to look at her.

      • JLewisDickerson on July 20, 2015, 7:56 pm

        RE: “I want to point out that I find your Gravatar disturbing.” ~ German Lefty

        MY COMMENT: Why, pray tell? Was it the hot pink color that you found disturbing? I was hoping the Kahanists would be offended by my changing their logo from black to hot pink. – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kahanism

        P.S. I have hundreds of Gravatars. I assume you’re referring to this one.

        P.P.S. Does anyone recognize my current avatar?
        HINT: His father was a Croatian Catholic and his mother was a Sephardic Jew.

      • German Lefty on July 21, 2015, 7:12 am

        @ JLD
        I am sure you can imagine that I find your former Gravatar disturbing because it’s a symbol of Zionism.

      • German Lefty on July 21, 2015, 7:38 am

        @ Dickerson
        I don’t recognise your current avatar, but Google does. And according to Google, it’s a dude named Ivan Illich.
        By the way, I find your surname funny. “Dickerson” reminds me of the German word “Dickerchen”, which is a term for a chubby person.

      • Mooser on July 21, 2015, 7:28 pm

        “I am sure you can imagine that I find your former Gravatar disturbing because it’s a symbol of Zionism.”

        No, I believe it precedes Zionism, and was hi-jacked by Zionism. But I don’t disagree with you, I could see the Star-of-David becoming an almost universally disparaged emblem.

        On the other hand, a Chocolate or Brown Lab usually loves everybody and is loved by everybody. And that’s a good thing.

      • German Lefty on July 22, 2015, 8:38 am

        Mooser – “I believe it precedes Zionism, and was hi-jacked by Zionism.”

        I have no idea if the symbol actually precedes Zionism. I only know that it’s the symbol of the Jewish Defense League, which is a Zionist organisation. That’s why I associate the symbol with Zionism.
        The swastika, too, precedes Nazism and was hijacked by the Nazis. However, that’s irrelevant nowadays. If you draw a swastika in a Western country, people view it as a Nazi symbol, not as a symbol of luck.

      • German Lefty on July 22, 2015, 10:49 am

        Mooser – “I could see the Star-of-David becoming an almost universally disparaged emblem.”

        The problem is that the Star of David is the main element of the Zionist flag, just like the swastika is the main element of the Nazi flag. People know that the swastika is the “shorthand symbol” for the Nazi flag. If they apply the same logic to the Zionist flag, then they come to the conclusion that the Star of David is the “shorthand symbol” for the Zionist flag. So, the meaning of the Star of David changes from “(harmless) Jewish religion” to “(harmful) Jewish ethnic nationalism” or “(harmful) Jewish settler-colonialism”.
        These incidents contribute to the impression that the Star of David stands for Zionism:
        http://972mag.com/photo-settlers-build-star-of-david-on-palestinian-land/103466/
        https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/499970862183755776/photo/1
        https://twitter.com/dancohen3000/status/499969649782431744/photo/1

  13. German Lefty on July 18, 2015, 9:06 am

    Today at 5 pm on the German-French TV channel ARTE:
    ARTE Reportage – Wir Flüchtlinge aus Palästina (We refugees from Palestine)
    The director spends seven days in a Palestinian refugee camp in Lebanon.
    (A repeat will air on Wednesday.)
    The film is also available online: http://info.arte.tv/de/wir-fluechtlinge-aus-palastina-ein-film-von-agnes-merlet

  14. Palikari on July 18, 2015, 9:10 pm

    Merkel just said the hard truth. Do you want her to tell lies instead of the truth?

    I wish all politicians were that honest!

    • Shingo on July 19, 2015, 1:05 am

      Merkel said half the hard truth.

      The bit she left out is that if that girl was Jewish, Germany would have offered her permanent residency.

  15. bintbiba on July 20, 2015, 10:04 am

    Extremely moving article by Susan AbulHawa !

    ” Merkel and the Palestinian Refugee Girl …why everyone missed the point “.

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/07/20/merkel-and-the-palestinian-refugee-girl-why-everyone-missed-the-point/

  16. Davki on July 20, 2015, 10:21 pm

    Let’s keep it real. The link to the Swiss website (in German) explains the context: The girl explained that they were in fear of being expulsed but that it didn’t happen. In fact, she goes on to say that they got a permit to stay: ‘Genehmingung’. It is understandable that the girl is very emotioned. Merkel is not very good in PR-refined hugging but there is no reason to doubt her sincerity. I’m not a Merkel fan at all, but all the assumptions, imputations and innuendos here are rather pointless and redolent of ‘holier than thou’. The girl is Palestinian but from a refugee camp in Lebanon. Merkel says that people like her (Reem) should be allowed to stay. She just explains the legal procedures. She goes on to explain that while the situation in the refugee camps is bad (after all, here the Palestinians live among their Arab ‘brothers and sisters’) there is more immediate need for taking in e.g. Syrians that are fleeing from impending death, torture etc. Just to put that in perspective: Germany has received 105000 Syrians refugees… in comparison, the UK has received 400. I’ve been working for many, many years in ‘Flüchtlingsräten’, refugee councils and we’re trying to keep everybody in Germany. It’s often hard. There are many problems and sad stories. But to get ‘high’ on this episode is pathetic. The video went viral in Germany because many Germans think we can and should take in many more. I agree wholeheartedly. But I don’t think anybody here, in terms of their proper governments has the moral high ground to write what they’ve written. So, face it, Germany takes in more refugee than most every other European nation, and the girl can stay. Is that enough? No. But please get informed before you shoot off. As for the consequences of WW2, yes, Israel is part of that but it was decided to found Israel before that. Germany suports Israel but also Palestine. But what ppl here (whether they’re aware of it or not) are asking for is that Germany take in all Palestinians because of the war? If the Arab world, like the Lebanese, had a little bit more compassion with their fellow Arabs, that girl’s family wouldn’t even have to flee.

  17. Kris on July 21, 2015, 1:05 am

    @Davki: “If the Arab world, like the Lebanese, had a little bit more compassion with their fellow Arabs, that girl’s family wouldn’t even have to flee.”

    So a German thinks that the “Arab world” should have “a little bit more compassion” for victims of Germany’s crimes? What about Germany?

    If Germany had not carried out the Holocaust against the European Jews, the land of the Palestinians would not have been given to the Jews as a compensation prize. There would not have been any Palestinian refugees.

    This little girl would be growing up safely in her family’s home in Palestine, instead of living in fear of being returned to a squalid refugee camp in Lebanon. She is as much a victim of Germany’s arrogance and criminal behavior as the six million Jews who died in the Holocaust and the 80 million people who died in WWII.

    In addition to helping refugees in Germany, you should be working to prevent people from becoming refugees in the first place. A good place for a German to start would be demanding that your government stop supporting Israel in any way, and start supporting the Palestinians in every single way.

    • German Lefty on July 21, 2015, 6:57 am

      “So a German thinks that the “Arab world” should have “a little bit more compassion” for victims of Germany’s crimes?”

      Stop blaming Germany for Israel’s crimes!!! The Palestinians are not the victims of Germany’s crimes. They are the victims of Israel’s crimes. Israel created the Palestinian refugees and that’s why Israel has to take them back by respecting their right of return. Period. Germany created the Jewish refugees and that’s why Germany does take them back by respecting their right of return. Asking Germany to take in the Palestinian refugees is like asking Germany to help Israel get rid of the natives. The Zionists would only benefit from it. By solving the “Palestinian refugee problem” for Israel, Germany would let Israel off the hook. Your demand that Germany takes in the refugees that Israel created is not any better than Davki’s demand that the Arab countries take in the refugees that Israel created.

      “If Germany had not carried out the Holocaust against the European Jews, the land of the Palestinians would not have been given to the Jews as a compensation prize.”

      The Nazis are responsible for Nazi crimes. The Zionists are responsible for Zionist crimes. By blaming Zionist crimes on the Nazis, you absolve the Zionists of all responsibility for their own actions. The Nazis didn’t force the Zionists to carry out the Nakba and to deny the Palestinian refugees their right of return. All these crimes were committed when the Nazis were not in power anymore.
      The Holocaust itself must be blamed on (Nazi) Germany. The Holocaust exploitation, however, must be blamed on Israel. Don’t conflate the two things.
      Germany already takes responsibility for its criminal past more than any other country in the world. However, you can’t expect Germany to take responsibility for the crimes of OTHER countries. This really goes too far.

      “In addition to helping refugees in Germany, you should be working to prevent people from becoming refugees in the first place.”

      Germans do that already. The vast majority of Germans are anti-war and anti-interventionist. The problem is that the German politicians refuse to listen to the German people. We live in a dictatorship in this respect.

      “A good place for a German to start would be demanding that your government stop supporting Israel in any way.”

      Again, Germans do that already. So, you have nothing to reproach us for.
      “According to the poll, 60% of Germans believe that their country has no special responsibility toward Israel because of the Holocaust. On top of that, the poll indicated that 70% of Germans believe Israel pursues its interests without consideration for other peoples.”
      http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-18333423

  18. lentyk on July 21, 2015, 11:37 am

    Israel has nothing to do with the Holocaust, it was planned and populated by the UK in 1919, when Europe and the US began encouraging Jews to move to Palestine to form a European foothold because of the increasing importance of Middle East oil.

    Merkel and other western leaders have a moral duty out of humanity to stop Israel from its abusive ways, just as they have a moral duty to stop ISIS and other criminal groups.
    That we are left trying to defend her actions be referring to a generation old piece of legislation that defined the ‘Palestine Refugee Problem’ shows how corrupt we are, now we have destroyed humanity to profit

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