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‘There is no Jewish terror’: Conspiracy theory that Palestinians committed Duma firebombing spreads among Israelis

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A growing number of Israelis believe that the Duma firebombing that killed eighteen-month-old Ali Dawabshe and his father Sa’ad was carried out by Palestinians.

In the settlement of Kiryat Arba, whose Chief Rabbi Dov Lior endorsed Torat Hamelech, a book which describes when it is permissible to kill non-Jews, the conspiracy theory appears to be popular.

“There’s no proof there was an attack,” said Lior, a restaurant owner. “But everybody thinks it was Palestinians who did it.”

He believes that the murder of baby Ali was an honor killing. “It’s the same as the Abu Khdeir killing,” he said, referring to the rumor planted by Israeli police after the discovery of the Palestinian teenager’s charred body last summer.

Stickers on car in Hebron say "Love thy neighbor" & "Our soldiers' lives are worth more than the enemy's citizens'" (Photo: Rebecca Pierce/Twitter)

Stickers on car in Hebron say “Love thy neighbor” & “Our soldiers’ lives are worth more than the enemy’s citizens'” (Photo: Rebecca Pierce/Twitter)

On a poll conducted on the religious Zionist website Arutz Sheva, nearly half chose the option, “Other Palestinians – there’s something fishy about it” and more than a quarter selected “don’t know.” (Full disclosure: I had to select “don’t know” in order to see the poll results).

As investigative journalist Uri Blau reported, some Israelis are buying into conspiracy theories promoted on social media. “Now on cinema – playing in loops in TV channels – Abu Khdeir 2,” the title of one Facebook post reads.

In the settlement inside in the old city of Hebron, one soldier named Rotem I spoke to conceded that it’s probably Jews but didn’t rule out the possibility that Palestinians were responsible. “Maybe it’s fighting between [Palestinian] tribes,” he said. But he thought the Israeli authorities should ignore the Duma attack and focus on Hebron. “Instead of trying to investigate whether or not it was Arabs who did the attack, they [police] should come see the attacks on soldiers.”

When I asked Rotem why he thinks Israeli politicians condemned the attack and promised to treat on Jewish terror the same as Palestinian terror, he told me it was for the purposes of hasbara. “They say it for the [outside] world,” he replied before adding, “The whole government has a tendency to the left.”

Despite the promises of politicians like Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Netanyahu and Education Minister Naftali Bennett, the soldier told me they didn’t have any orders to increase attention to settlers.

At that point, the soldier became agitated by the term “Jewish terror.”

“Stop using the term ‘Jewish terror.’ There is no Jewish terror,” Rotem said. “Remove this word from your lexicon. It doesn’t exist. They made it up for the leftist media.”

As commenter ckg pointed out, the conspiracy theory was also spread in the United States by Morton Klein, president of the Zionist Organization of America. The evidence, “raises strong suspicions that the fire last week was the continuation of an 18-year-old feud between two Arab clans in Duma” Klein wrote in an issued statement.

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  1. Citizen on August 20, 2015, 10:54 am

    Hopeless

  2. ckg on August 20, 2015, 11:11 am

    ZOA president Morton Klein said:

    It is inappropriate to rush to cast blame on Jews for the fire at an Arab home in Duma in last week in view of the minimal, contradictory, and questionable evidence reported thus far — and in view of the numerous instances in which Arabs have fabricated attacks or blamed Jews for Arab violence against other Arabs.

    Evidence however, raises strong suspicions that the fire last week was the continuation of an 18-year-old feud between two Arab clans in Duma.

    The conspiracy theory thrives on this side of the Atlantic too.

    • a blah chick on August 20, 2015, 11:56 am

      Morton Klein, the crazy uncle of Zionism.

      What is so pathetic about this lame conspiracy theory is that if there was an iota of evidence implicating Arabs don’t you think that would have come up by now?

      • ritzl on August 20, 2015, 12:27 pm

        From the other direction, abc, the “fact” that the GoI hasn’t caught anyone must be “proof” that Jews didn’t do it.

        It’s pretty elegant in a sick, twisted sort of way.

  3. just on August 20, 2015, 11:42 am

    omg.

    “Honor killing”?

    Now that I’ve gotten that out of the way, this is an extremely valuable glimpse into the insular, supremacist, and narcissistic thinking of some Israelis. They really are a brainwashed lot, and seem incapable of any compassion for others or for any introspection/soul-searching.

    This morning I read Gideon Levy’s latest column. It’s an interview with Mohammed Allaan’s father, Nasser a- Din Allaan. I think that this excerpt is pertinent:

    … Nasser a-Din says he is not surprised by his son’s determination, but his physical endurance does amaze him. He didn’t think he would keep up the hunger strike so long. What will happen if he dies?

    “You have to ask [Prime Minister Benjamin] Netanyahu that question. He has to prepare for the consequences. Does he think he is acting logically? My son lost consciousness, not because he wanted to, but Netanyahu lost awareness willingly. If Mohammed dies, life will be nothing for me. If my son dies, justice will die. Humaneness will die. The conscience of the international community will disappear, and whatever response comes will not be the fault of the Palestinians. The international community, which did nothing to save Mohammed, will bear the responsibility. An intifada? Possibly. Or maybe something bigger than an intifada. Only God knows what will happen if Mohammed dies.

    “During Ramadan, we fast for part of the day, and it’s hard,” he continues. “Mohammed has been fasting for more than 60 days. I can’t stop thinking about him, especially not about that scene in Barzilai. I’m trying constantly to forget that picture, but it haunts me. I’m trying to treat myself, to forget Mohammed’s fate for a moment and relax. But it’s not working.

    “I want to speak to the Israeli people in religious terms, from the viewpoint of the Koran and the Torah. We are all human beings, flesh and blood. If a Jew were in Mohammed’s place, I would treat him like a human being. But the religious Jews have lost the principles of the Torah. The Torah students know the truth but have fallen silent. They read the Torah every day and they are silent. If the true Jews and the true Muslims would meet, there would be no problems. Don’t believe the settlers who say they’re killing in the name of the Torah. The Torah says other things. The Israelis need to listen to the true words of the Torah, not to Netanyahu and his spokespeople. Netanyahu will lead his people to hell.”

    read more: http://www.haaretz.com/weekend/twilight-zone/.premium-1.672158?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    “Despite the promises of politicians like Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Netanyahu and Education Minister Naftali Bennett, the soldier told me they didn’t have any orders to increase attention to settlers.”

    I totally believe that~ the fact that nobody has been arrested is proof positive of that! It’s also interesting that the Jewish stabber murderer @ the Pride parade and the Jewish hunters/murderers of Mohammed Abu Khdeir are considered “mentally unstable” and never really “terrorists”~ ergo Rotem denies there is “Jewish terror” because the Israeli system tells him so.

    Hebron is full of extremist and violent settlers that the IOF aids and abets, but Rotem is concerned about the “attacks on soldiers”! I did laugh with disgust, but this victim mentality and entitlement is simply so sick and ingrained. And if Rotem thinks that “the whole government has a tendency to the left”, heaven help us and them!

    Israel could very well be a lost cause, and a dangerous one at that. I think I’ll go read some more of Avigail Abarbanel’s words…

    ‘A traumatized society is dangerous’
    http://mondoweiss.net/2015/06/traumatized-society-dangerous

    “It’s time for American Jews to recognize they have been duped” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/07/american-recognize-duped#sthash.1o3E56z3.dpuf

    Thank you, Dan.

    • Kris on August 20, 2015, 12:56 pm

      Thank you, as always, just, for all the great info you share. I thought that I would be able to read the whole article which is behind haaretz’s paywall by using this http://cachedview.com , but no luck, so thank you for the excerpt.

      From the article:

      I want to speak to the Israeli people in religious terms, from the viewpoint of the Koran and the Torah. We are all human beings, flesh and blood. If a Jew were in Mohammed’s place, I would treat him like a human being.

      But the religious Jews have lost the principles of the Torah. The Torah students know the truth but have fallen silent. They read the Torah every day and they are silent. If the true Jews and the true Muslims would meet, there would be no problems.

      Don’t believe the settlers who say they’re killing in the name of the Torah. The Torah says other things. The Israelis need to listen to the true words of the Torah, not to Netanyahu and his spokespeople. Netanyahu will lead his people to hell.”

      I think the book of Isaiah is part of the Torah; it seems that God doesn’t approve of “spreading vicious rumors,” oppression, or wrongly imprisoning people. Why don’t the rabbis know about this?

      Isaiah 58:6-11New Living Translation (NLT)

      6
      “No, this is the kind of fasting I want:
      Free those who are wrongly imprisoned;
      lighten the burden of those who work for you.
      Let the oppressed go free,
      and remove the chains that bind people.
      7
      Share your food with the hungry,
      and give shelter to the homeless.
      Give clothes to those who need them,
      and do not hide from relatives who need your help.

      8
      “Then your salvation will come like the dawn,
      and your wounds will quickly heal.
      Your godliness will lead you forward,
      and the glory of the Lord will protect you from behind.
      9
      Then when you call, the Lord will answer.
      ‘Yes, I am here,’ he will quickly reply.

      “Remove the heavy yoke of oppression.
      Stop pointing your finger and spreading vicious rumors!
      10
      Feed the hungry,
      and help those in trouble.
      Then your light will shine out from the darkness,
      and the darkness around you will be as bright as noon.
      11
      The Lord will guide you continually,
      giving you water when you are dry
      and restoring your strength.
      You will be like a well-watered garden,
      like an ever-flowing spring.

      • just on August 20, 2015, 6:56 pm

        Thank you, Kris.

        Levy just did another column about Allaan~ here’s some of it:

        “Palestinian Hunger Striker Proves Israel Only Understands Force

        How ironic: only as Mohammed Allaan lay dying did he become strong enough to force the state to release him.

        … It was not Allaan’s life that worried the state and most of its citizens – as far as they were concerned he could have died a long time ago, and with him all the administrative detainees – but rather the damage to Israel’s image and the danger that his death would spark a conflagration in the territories that kept the decision-makers up at night. The media discourse over Allaan, as he hovered between life and death, between moments of lucidity and eternal dementia: an almost diabolical discourse, without a shred of compassion, the slightest humanity, in the face of a man fighting almost to the death for the freedom to which he is entitled.

        On Thursday, Allaan’s fate was still unclear. His attorneys said that had been unable to communicate with him. They might never be able to. His fate may have been sealed. You can be sure, all you lawyers, Shin Bet agents, politicians and even journalists, public opinion in Israel does not take and never has taken an interest in his fate. For Israeli public opinion Allaan is a terrorist, a murderer with blood on his hands as the thugs of Ashkelon screamed – and to hell with the facts. To hell, too, with the moral image of a state who persists in jailing hundreds of people without trial and is prepared to let them out only when they become vegetables.

        Allaan’s fate – if he recovers after long suffering, if he needs chronic care forever or if he dies – will haunt Israel for a long time to come. And rightly so.”

        read more: http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.672248?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

      • DaBakr on August 20, 2015, 11:25 pm

        @j

        If Israel was as ‘closed’ a society and nation as many of the commenters here make out the world would not likely have ever heard of Allan or have any information about him. How many prisoners from Egypt, Syria, Iraq, KSA, Jordan or Iran does anybody read constant and timely updates on? Has anybody in the US heard one thing about the circumstances of the US political prisoner in Evin prison?

        And before you start yelling ‘what about-ism’ I’ll tell you that it would be difficult to argue against GL’s statement that ‘in near death Allan achieves the power he lacked in his previous condition'[any many other points GL makes]. No matter what ‘side’ one is aligned with in I/P he is a human and his condition at this time-regardless of what he did in past as a IJ militant -is one of pathos.

        The point about other nations is that the worlds eyes are all on Israel-for whatever reason one believes that is due to. And it may be cynical but you better believe that the entities like the PA , Iranian dictators or many other nations aligned against Israel are very very glad that no eyes from the press or otherwise are trained on them and their prisoners. They can do what they please. Israel is not now nor ever has been in this position.

      • annie on August 21, 2015, 2:48 am

        @da, you have a point. in all honesty i really wasn’t very aware at all of all the horrible things our country did in the world until i got on the internet which sort of coincided with our invasion of iraq. before i had any radar for israel i was immersed in iraq. it was only thru the unique (what i interpreted as unique) relationship with the neocons and the bush administration (hersh stovepiping etc) coupled with the neocons protection of israel, and the intense support of israel from all the orchestrated propaganda bloggers pushing the iraq war that put israel on my radar. for the most part i was out of the loop on palestine during both the intifadas. i didn’t even know about our history in south america. just very little.

        so when this came on my radar is was in conjunction of this constant reference to our relationship to israel. that was never around when i was growing up. this constant US&Israel lovefest. this constant reference to israel all the time by our politicians and media. it was almost as if we had this appendage stuck to us all the time. that wasn’t there when i was a teen. nor in my 20’s and 30’s or 40’s. israel is just in our face all the time. a child growing up in america today, it would not be the same as when i was a kid. they will know who israel is for sure. how could you not. and you really do not have to scratch the surface very far to discover …. palestine and palestinians. i mean really, you wonder “How many prisoners from Egypt, Syria, Iraq, KSA, Jordan or Iran does anybody read constant and timely updates on?”. Egypt, Syria, Iraq, KSA, Jordan or Iran are not down our throats the way israel is. their leaders are not shoving themselves in our faces competing for airtime with our president twisting our politicians arms to make war on brown people. our congress members are not holidaying during their breaks (AT THE EXPENSE OF THEIR CONSTITUENTS) IN Egypt, Syria, Iraq, KSA, Jordan or Iran. we’re not constantly being told Egypt, Syria, Iraq, KSA, Jordan or Iran share our values. we’re not constantly being told Egypt, Syria, Iraq, KSA, Jordan or Iran are vibrant democracies and we should honor and respect the way they imprison and slaughter poeple. we’re not directed to buy some hogwash oppressive states who slaughter civilians like israel does are good for us and our best friends.

        you want us to not pay attention to israel or palestinians? complain to the lobby. those days are over. you’re on our radar now. and it’s not because we’re racists, it’s because you’re in our face spending our billions of our dollars slaughtering people — for decades. relatively speaking, i just heard about it and it pisses me off. the whole world is watching. can we make a difference? i hope so.

      • Kris on August 21, 2015, 11:28 am

        DaBakr: ” No matter what ‘side’ one is aligned with in I/P he is a human and his condition at this time-regardless of what he did in past as a IJ militant -is one of pathos.”

        “Regardless of what he did in the past”? Like what? No charges have been made.

        The point is that this young man, like so many thousands of other Palestinians, has been imprisoned by Israel, the “Jewish” state, indefinitely. No charges, no chance of defense, no trial.

        There is no reason, except that he is a Palestinian, to imagine he has done anything illegal. This is racism.

        It is disgusting and horrifying. Just like the indefensible treatment of so-called “terrorists” by the U.S. at Guantanamo, but, to me, even worse, because Israel pretends, at least when it suits it, to be guided by Judaism. Israel is an abomination.

  4. a blah chick on August 20, 2015, 11:52 am

    ““The whole government has a tendency to the left.”

    Well, if your starting point is Genghis Khan then I’d have to agree.

  5. ritzl on August 20, 2015, 12:24 pm

    I heard Michael Oren said the “victims” might not even be dead.

    :P

  6. eljay on August 20, 2015, 12:37 pm

    At that point, the soldier became agitated by the term “Jewish terror.” “Stop using the term ‘Jewish terror.’ There is no Jewish terror,” Rotem said. “Remove this word from your lexicon. It doesn’t exist. They made it up for the leftist media.”

    “There is no brutal and physical and sexual assault,” said the rapist. “It doesn’t exist. Now if you will excuse me, I must return to my basement. I’m entertaining a couple of female guests and I’m anxious to get down to business with them.”

  7. Kay24 on August 20, 2015, 12:54 pm

    How easily they believe the Palestinians did something, even overreacting by unnecessary violence. They have a record of blaming the Palestinians for their own murders/killing/massacres. How can we forget the two young kids who were killed by sniper on the day of the Nakba anniversary. The criminals blamed the Palestinians, even accused the poor victims of staging their own death, and then when that ugly video came out, the song was different. Same story here, same ugly insinuations, and blame.

    WHY AREN’T THE SCOUNDRELS ARRESTED YET? Who thinks the sleuths over there haven’t a clue as to who these terrorists are? At first they react with outrage and pretend they are surprised about these crimes, then when the world takes it’s attention away, they resort to the same ugly response, and these criminals are either not found, or mostly given a kiss on their head, handled with love, and let go. Or they are found mentally incompetent.

    • Teapot on August 20, 2015, 3:46 pm

      How easily they believe the Palestinians did something, even overreacting by unnecessary violence.

      They’re completely brainwashed. But sadly, it’s not only Israeli who feel like that. I’ve had so many conversations with people about the I-P conflict, and while many of them agree that the occupation is illegal and that Israel has done a lot of terrible things, somehow they still instinctively support Israel over the Palestinians. Of course, this is no coincidence considering that for many decades the media has been inciting against Arabs, dehumanizing them and only showing us the Israeli and Western narratives. Thanks to this relentless propaganda, most people I know have a deep seated belief that Arabs are somehow inherently violent. It’s an incredibly dangerous and harmful prejudice.

      • Kris on August 20, 2015, 6:25 pm

        @Teapot: “Of course, this is no coincidence considering that for many decades the media has been inciting against Arabs, dehumanizing them and only showing us the Israeli and Western narratives. ”

        Here’s a good overview of how this demonization of Arabs and Palestinians has been happening: “Dr. Jack Shaheen Discusses Reel Bad Arabs: How Hollywood Vilifies a People” http://www.wrmea.org/2001-july/dr.-jack-shaheen-discusses-reel-bad-arabs-how-hollywood-vilifies-a-people.html . From that article:

        For decades Israeli filmmakers and producers have collaborated with their supporters in Hollywood toproduce films with a common theme: Arabs invade the U.S.—New York, Los Angeles, or even a high school in Indiana. Terrorists storm in, take hostages, and kill civilians. Arabs enslave and abuse Africans. While Hollywood concocted “True Lies,” “Wanted Dead or Alive” (1986) and “The Siege,” Israel made “Iron Eagle” (1986), “Chain of Command” (1992), “Death Before Dishonor,” (1987) and “Delta Force” (1986).

        Nazis made vile, anti-Semitic films that cannot be shown in movie theaters in Germany because of the messages they carry, Shaheen continued. “Yesterday’s Jewish image is the same as the Arab image today,” he noted. “How different is today’s Arab from yesterday’s Jew: the funny-looking sheikh, wearing the robe, the money grubber who is killing innocents, worshipping another god, trying to take over the world…?”

        Why have American studios like Cannon Films, owned and operated by two Israeli producers, Menachem Golan and Yoram Globus, released more than two dozen of these Arab-bashing since 1985, like “Hell Squad” (1985) and “Killing Streets” (1991)? Why would a people who were treated so badly treat others the same way? Why does it keep getting worse?

        Dr. Shaheen’s wife, Bernice, catalogued every analysis, singling out the unrelenting slurs, of which the milder ones were “rag heads, towel heads, sons of she-camels, and Ay-Rabs.”

        It is inconceivable that similar racial slurs against other ethnic groups would be tolerated in American films today. “It’s an unremitting disaster for generation after generation of Arab Americans,” Dr. Shaheen said, “and no one stands up to say—that’s enough. Where is the outrage?”

        Anti-Arab virulence in films has increased in the last three decades just as more news reports in the print media, radio, and TV have focused on radical Arabs and bad guys since 1948. The news adage seems to be: “ If it bleeds it leads,” Shaheen observed. Along with the demonization of leaders such as Saddam Hussain, Muammar Qaddafi and Ayatollah Khomeini, reporters focus on lunatic fringe extremists, project Arabs as terrorists, use certain phrases to describe Arabs, and report a distorted truth. By and large, every Arab is a terrorist and every Muslim an extremist. Almost never is an Arab Christian portrayed. It’s easy for filmmakers to find a villain, Dr. Shaheen said: “You pick someone who will cause the least trouble, a convenient scapegoat.”

        Has Hollywood maligned any other group as much as it has Arabs? Shaheen said that Arab Muslims are right up there with Native American Indians, “who have gotten a bad rap in 1,000 films. While Asians, Jews and Latinos are often stereotyped in the media, the abuse suffered by these groups pales in comparison with Arabs.”

      • gamal on August 20, 2015, 7:20 pm

        Thanks Kris what I got from that is:

        “Jews are often stereotyped in the media”

        Anti-semitism, even here, how sad.

      • Teapot on August 20, 2015, 7:26 pm

        @Kris, thank you for the link. I remember, a few years ago, I watched a documentary on this topic that I think might have been based on Dr. Shaheen’s book. It is really shocking to see how Hollywood’s racist attitude towards Arabs goes mainly unchallenged.

    • DaBakr on August 20, 2015, 11:45 pm

      @k

      “why aren’t the scoundrels arrested yet?”

      din’t know to what nation you belong but unless you live under a rock you must be aware that president Obama has murdered many more children with his drones then Israel ever has.
      The Hamas in Gaza has also killed dozens of its own citizens (including children) with unguided or mis-handled rockets that either blow up pre-launch or fall short of southern Israel.

      Obama and the leaders of the EU are slowly preparing the world for the news that Assad (if he’s not-hopefully-killed by his victims 1st) will most likely be granted a stay in the division of the former nation of Syria. He -along with 1000’s of his loyal supporters and troops have murdered 10s of thousands of children. And Obama in cahoots with your beloved Iranian mullahs have murdered dozens if not more children in their coördinated bombing runs against IS strongholds.

      How many kids has Putin murdered-the world can only

      And yet….your still screaming for the arrest of Israelis with the even more asinine presumption that there is actually a ‘somebody’ who could arrest any of the persons mentioned. It seems like you let your fantasies get the better of what little perspective and common sense you own and imagine there is some universal police force running around arresting citizens/soldiers/leaders in their respective nations. I know many Palestinians who are staunchly opposed to Zionism yet the prospect you complain about is literally the most ridiculous goal they could imagine. Calling an entire nation “mentally ill or incompetent” is not really much higher then pre-school shenanigans and unless your simply ‘preaching to your choir’ really might want to examine the impetus behind such pique.

      • DaBakr on August 21, 2015, 12:25 am

        i forgot to mention that in addition to your beloved Iran killing kids in IS strongholds with US aid… it has the double distinction of killing 1000s more ‘OTHER’ Syrians- children and adults – with Assad, Putin and the always civically conscientious Hezbollah using barrel bombs, poison gas, jet fired rockets as just part of its endlessly supplied arsenal. Maybe your right…its fun to imagine Khameini in hand-cuffs

      • annie on August 21, 2015, 2:03 am

        zzzzzzzz

      • talknic on August 21, 2015, 1:27 am

        @ DaBakr August 20, 2015, 11:45 pm

        WOW !!! What a big turgid Ziowad of whataboutery

      • Kay24 on August 21, 2015, 7:42 am

        Sounds like you got promoted in hasbara school. Truth hurts eh?

      • eljay on August 21, 2015, 8:01 am

        || talknic: @ DaBakr August 20, 2015, 11:45 pm

        WOW !!! What a big turgid Ziowad of whataboutery ||

        Yup. Zio-supremacists seem to think that as long as murderers exist, serial rape is perfectly acceptable. They never – ever – advocate justice, accountability and equality, universally and consistently applied.

        Zio-supremacists are truly hateful and immoral people.

  8. Qualtrough on August 20, 2015, 1:09 pm

    This should come as no surprise to any of us. The same, every time.

  9. a blah chick on August 20, 2015, 1:37 pm

    More deep thoughts from Soldier Rotem:

    “…he thought the Israeli authorities should ignore the Duma attack and focus on Hebron. “Instead of trying to investigate whether or not it was Arabs who did the attack, they [police] should come see the attacks on soldiers.”

    Really folks, the sense of entitlement is as deep and wide as the Mississippi. Not only does he feel no sense of shame at the abuse of untermensch but believes that they must also allow him to walk the streets of segregated Hebron unhindered, with nothing but his bulletproof vest, helmet, assault rifle and Jewish superiority to protect him. Makes you wonder what all those mad Krav Maga skills are for.

    He’s nothing more than a thug in uniform.

    • tree on August 20, 2015, 3:08 pm

      Not only does he feel no sense of shame at the abuse of untermensch but believes that they must also allow him to walk the streets of segregated Hebron unhindered, with nothing but his bulletproof vest, helmet, assault rifle and Jewish superiority to protect him.

      Not that this redeems the soldier’s statement in any way, but I think he was talking about the attacks on soldiers from the crazed settlers in Hebron, who have been known to attack and harass soldiers as well. It’s mild compared to how they treat Palestinians of course, but that’s not much of a caveat . I’ve read enough soldiers’ testimonies to know that one of the many reasons that the typical IDF soldier does nothing to protect Palestinians or restrain the settlers is because they will get targeted by the crazies, and the government officials in their thrall, if he does so. Pretty chickenshit but the system is rigged against any caring, except for your own hide. Hebron is one of the most hated tours of duty for many IDF soldiers, and it has nothing to do with what Palestinians do.

      On the latest Israeli conspiracy story,just remember that blaming Palestinians for their own fatalities, injuries and miseries is an Israeli Jewish response with a long heritage. After all this time and information to the contrary, there is still a widespread belief that the Palestinians all left on orders of their leaders, to return when the Jews were all wiped out. Muhammed al Durra either wasn’t really dead or was killed by his father or he never existed in the first place, or all three (bigotry has no truck with logic) during the second intifada. During the first intifada,Tirza Porat, an Israeli settler teen, was stoned to death by Palestinians in the West Bank village of Beita, even when she actually died from a stray bullet from an Israeli settler. It was the villagers fault and so they were solely to blame for the 3 villager deaths, the 14 village homes destroyed, and the 6 villagers exiled to Lebanon.

      ( For those of you who are not familiar with this see David Samel’s description of the even here: http://mondoweiss.net/2010/04/the-beita-incident-of-1988-shines-lasting-light-on-a-cruel-occupation-and-its-halfhearted-coverage )

      And then of course there’s the “liberal” Israeli Zionist, for whom every death of a Palestinian in Gaza is the fault of Hamas, no matter if the IDF pulled the trigger or dropped the bomb, over and over and over again. Its a wonderful illusion of no Jewish accountability for anything bad that happens to Palestinians. Thus they can continue to hallucinate that the IDF is the “most moral army in the world” and there is no “Jewish terror”.

      • just on August 20, 2015, 3:30 pm

        Yes, the crazed extremist settlers do attack the IOF, and not only in Hebron.

        “… But he thought the Israeli authorities should ignore the Duma attack and focus on Hebron. “Instead of trying to investigate whether or not it was Arabs who did the attack, they [police] should come see the attacks on soldiers.”

        When I asked Rotem why he thinks Israeli politicians condemned the attack and promised to treat on Jewish terror the same as Palestinian terror, he told me it was for the purposes of hasbara. “They say it for the [outside] world,” he replied before adding, “The whole government has a tendency to the left.”

        Despite the promises of politicians like Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Netanyahu and Education Minister Naftali Bennett, the soldier told me they didn’t have any orders to increase attention to settlers.”

        – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/08/conspiracy-palestinians-firebombing#comment-152246

        In that context, it seems that he may not be talking about the crazed settlers of Hebron, especially since Rotem is in complete denial of Jewish terrorism.

        Maybe Dan can shed some light on this.

      • Kris on August 20, 2015, 3:39 pm

        @tree: “On the latest Israeli conspiracy story, just remember that blaming Palestinians for their own fatalities, injuries and miseries is an Israeli Jewish response with a long heritage.”

        Israeli Jews openly blame Palestinians for Palestinian suffering, and yet the idea that the suffering of Jews historically might have had something to do with the behavior of Jews is immediately condemned as antisemitic.

      • a blah chick on August 20, 2015, 3:41 pm

        tree, you’re absolutely correct. I suspect that many an IDF man or woman, with ideas of a military career tangles with the settlers at their peril. No one up the ladder of command has their back and they know it.

        That being said people have to step up. Nothing will change until the Squishy Left starts sacrificing themselves.

  10. JLewisDickerson on August 20, 2015, 2:06 pm

    RE: ‘There is no Jewish terror’: Conspiracy theory that Palestinians committed Duma firebombing spreads among Israelis

    MY COMMENT: Stanley G. Payne defines fascism as a form of ultranationalism espousing a myth of national rebirth and marked by extreme elitism, mobilization of the masses, exaltation of hierarchy and subordination, oppression of women and an embrace of violence and war as virtues.

    Fascism: Comparison and Definition – by Stanley G. Payne – http://www.amazon.com/Fascism-Comparison-Definition-Stanley-Payne/dp/0299080641

  11. piotr on August 20, 2015, 2:13 pm

    I got interested in the martial arts in IDF after Mavi Marmara massacre. There an elite commando unit landed on board and met some Turkish martial artists and it ended rather ungloriously, so IDF commanders and commandoes got really really mad, landed again with loaded guns and made a number of executions.

    Exhibit two was the video of Lt. Col. Eisner “disciplining” bicyclists with his own hands. On the video we could see him smacking the bicyclists with a machine gun, and then he reported a broken finger. Swinging a heavy metal object can lead to self-injury if you do not know how to do it.

    And I compared it with incidents involving other military forces. Korean military cultivates martial arts and their Coast Guard uses them when intercepted Chinese fishermen resists them. There is a bit of a fishing war there, and fishermen sometimes resists with crowbars and even knives, taking the fish from fishermen tends to irritate them. It seems to be takwaendo vs kungfu in the waters of the Yellow Sea. Obviously, martial arts are important for Korea because they do want to enforce their interpretation of their economic exclusion zone without a major confrontation with China. And since Israel was never interested in fine points of that nature, nobody takes krav maga seriously.

    • a blah chick on August 20, 2015, 3:24 pm

      Do you think they really intended to re-occupy Gaza last year? Before they sent in the ground troops they claimed that was the plan, like Cast Lead. I think the level of resistance surprised them and they realized they did not have the stomach for a real fight. Recall the commander who ordered the leveling of an entire neighborhood because one of his men got killed. I mean, what the hell, it’s war! What did you think would happen?

  12. amigo on August 20, 2015, 4:20 pm

    There is no such thing as”Jewish Terrorism”.

    There are Palestinian Terrorists but no Palestinians.

    We want peace but we also want all that Palestinian land even though there are no Palestinians.

    The ability of the zionist mind to self delude knows no bounds.

  13. pabelmont on August 20, 2015, 5:00 pm

    To start with, there must have been a lot of Israeli Jews SAYING that they didn’t believe Jews did it. No way to know what the BELIEVE, just what they SAY. (This is so, in spades, for politicians, of course.) If enough people say it, then a few others begin to believe it. KKK folks probably said that they “believed” that the black folks they lynched “did” whatever they were accused of.

    There is a lot of solidarity to be got by saying what other people in your group/tribe are saying, perhaps the more so if none of them believes it.

  14. DaBakr on August 20, 2015, 6:00 pm

    Its somewhat fitting that in terms of “conspiracy theories’ that the shoe is on the other foot and and that naturally the victims and/or innocent bystanders do not like it one bit.

    I probably could not count the amount of times that conspiracy theories about dozens of Zionist/ Israeli/ AIPAC and/or ‘Zionist controlled MSM’ cults(kabbalistic Jews, surely) numerous, ‘operations’ (false flag via GOI, of course) killings (Mossad, naturally) and dis-informational media reports (professional hasbara , obviously) were promoted by commenters here on MW and in the Arab world that its is almost poetic injustice that the other side should feel the same outrage over completely absurd ideas that float around the mediocre minded masses.

    So some stupid Israelis are deluded enough to believe that Jews couldn’t commit such evil? Why is that surprising when polls suggest that 5% of Egyptians, 75% of Palestinians and huge majorities of other Arabs still believe that 9-11 could never have been carried out by Arabs.
    What is there to say except people (especially conspiracy folks) are pretty stupid and willing to delude themselves.

  15. Bornajoo on August 20, 2015, 6:51 pm

    “There are Palestinian Terrorists but no Palestinians” (Amigo)

    Thanks for pointing that one out Amigo! One minute there is no such thing as the Palestinian people and the next there are Palestinian terrorists and long standing Palestinian family feuds.

    You can’t make this stuff up

  16. kev on August 20, 2015, 9:02 pm

    If you look at Martin Sherman’s latest commentary on Jpost.com, you can easily see, very clearly, that the tactic being used is “blame the victim”. Just as they did in the Abu Khdeir murder (labeling the victim as a homosexual in order to claim that the perpetrators were not Jews, but Arab family members committing an “honor killing”), they are now trying to preemptively defend any possible Jewish involvement by claiming that the perpetrators were Arabs that were in some long-standing feud with the Dawabshe family. They even invoke the “honor killing” crap (though how they would sustain such a charge on an 18 month old infant, I’m not really sure). It didn’t really stand up for the killing of Muhammad Abu Khdeir, but hey, it just might this time, right? Especially if we don’t (because we’re not interested enough to) find any of the actual suspects? Because we can’t stand the heat of finding out that the suspects are actually good little hilltop youth settlers that we have financially supported to take over lands belonging to Palestinians?

    So, basically, it’s an Alan Dershowitz “blame the rape victim” in order to deflect from the guilt of the rapist type of sleazy lawyer defense, the type that’s used when the lawyer knows that his client is guilty but hopes that he can mitigate the damages by sliming the victim.

  17. Atlantaiconoclast on August 21, 2015, 12:15 am

    Regardless of who did this horrible act, and I seriously doubt Palestinians would kill other Palestinians to get political attention, this act WAS a conspiracy if it involved more than one person, Israeli or Palestinian. The label of “conspiracy” is a convenient way to marginalize people who dare question official stories. The social sciences have demonized the notion of conspiracy, and have in fact, created an entirely new definition of the word “conspiracy.” I think the point of the story should be that many Israelis are in denial about the strain of supremacism in their nation rather than that they are crazy “conspiracy theorists.”

  18. CigarGod on August 21, 2015, 9:27 am

    Wow, Annie.
    You have kicked it up to a whole new level these last couple weeks.
    Your response to Dabaker is a masterpiece.

  19. ymedad on August 21, 2015, 10:16 am

    Just to be clear: to believe that someone is innocent until proven guilty would not be a conspiracy theory, yes?

  20. just on August 21, 2015, 12:19 pm

    Amira Hass:

    “Palestinian Witness Accounts Have Different Take on West Bank Stabbings

    Palestinian eyewitnesses say the stabber at the gas station on Route 443 was shot dead when he was sitting down 20 meters away from the soldiers.

    About a quarter-hour after Anas Taha stabbed Yehuda Ben-Moyal at the Khawaja gas station on Route 443 last week, soldiers killed him. They shot him from a distance of twenty meters as he was sitting on the ground, after they fired in the air twice and after he yelled “Allahu Akbar.” This, according to an eyewitness who spoke to Haaretz.

    It was the first of four incidents in 10 days in which, according to army and Border Police spokesmen, a Palestinian was shot after stabbing or otherwise assaulting an Israeli in the West Bank. Three of the four Palestinians were killed. Three of the four Israelis were soldiers stationed at checkpoints: a soldier at Beit Ghur (Beit Horon) on Route 443, between Modi’in and Jerusalem, and two Border Police officers at the Za’atra (Tapuah) junction, south of Nablus. What are called in Israel “atmosphere attacks,” carried out by lone attackers inspired by the tense mood in the West Bank, and not by an organized armed cell, are perceived very differently by Palestinians. As they see it, at any time a soldier at a checkpoint can decide that he is being attacked and can kill a Palestinian. Palestinians don’t buy the idea that teenagers are carrying out copycat stabbings of Israelis, especially soldiers. In their opinion, the soldiers are quick on the trigger because they are hysterical.

    On Monday Mohammed al-Atrash, a young man from Kufr A-Ra’i village, south of Jenin, was buried after being shot dead by a Border Police officer at the Za’atra checkpoint. According to Israeli reports, he had tried to stab another officer. After the funeral, relatives said there were witnesses who saw Atrash being removed from a taxi, that the officer had provoked him and that he didn’t even have a knife. A spokesman for security forces in the Palestinian Authority, Adnan Damiri, said the Palestinians were not presented with any evidence of stabbing attempts in the two incidents at Tapuah Junction. He added that the Israel Defense Forces both kills and investigates itself. …”

    Much more @ : http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.672252?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    Wonder why the IOF doesn’t have cameras…

    • Kathleen on August 23, 2015, 10:37 am

      What a thought. Can only imagine if Israeli IDF, police were required to wear body camera the horrific scenes we would see? Over the last 10 years or so many more video’s coming out of the area of the horrific scenes we have scene that for decades heard about from friends living in Hebron and working with Palestinians

  21. Rashers2 on August 21, 2015, 7:38 pm

    The wishful projection of guilt for the murder of Ali Dawabshe onto some apocryphal, internecine feud between Palestinian “tribes” is a damning indictment of what Zionism represents; it is, quite simply, depraved.

  22. Kathleen on August 23, 2015, 10:33 am

    “Jewish terror” fact

  23. piotr on August 24, 2015, 10:35 am

    It is important to distinguish a fringe of a society from the ideas spread by the state. Israel has a statist mentality and most people trust the wisdom of the security officials. And various security officials, police and military, for years were telling stories of Palestinians hurting each other and accusing the innocent Israeli state and the Jewish public.

    It is hard to quickly find links, but two examples that I remember are instructive. Several cars were burned down in a West Bank town, and Israeli police made it public that it investigates the theory that it was motivated by insurance fraud (rather than price tag). In second example, a young Palestinian women died of tear gas inhalation during a protest. The only truth presented by IDF spokespeople was that she was “not near to the demonstration” (IDF saturated a huge area with tear gas). The first theory offered by IDF was, you may guess! honor killing. The second was that she died of cancer. Finally they admitted that she died after inhaling tear gas, although a healthier person would not (she had asthma) and they further mitigated the responsibility of IDF by voicing an opinion that she would be saved in an Israeli hospital (she was treated in a Palestinian hospital in the West Bank).

    However, the list of such stories from police and IDF is huge, so this is definitely a state-driven phenomenon.

  24. Accentitude on August 27, 2015, 7:33 am

    If there is no such thing as “Jewish Terror” than would someone please explain to me whom are the
    Hagana,
    Lehi….aka: Stern Gang
    the Jewish Defense League
    the Irgun
    Brit Hakanaim
    the Gush Emunim Underground
    Lehava
    Kach and Kahane Chai
    Palmach
    The South Hebron Hilltop Youth

    Yes, clearly, there is no Jewish Terrorism.

    I’ll just leave this right here:


    New York, Dec. 2, 1948

    TO THE EDITORS OF THE NEW YORK TIMES:

    Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the “”Freedom Party”” (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine.

    The current visit of Menachem Begin, leader of this party, to the United States is obviously calculated to give the impression of American support for his party in the coming Israeli elections, and to cement political ties with conservative Zionist elements in the United States. Several Americans of national repute have lent their names to welcome his visit. It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughout the world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin’s political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents.

    Before irreparable damage is done by way of financial contributions, public manifestations in Begin’’s behalf, and the creation in Palestine of the impression that a large segment of America supports Fascist elements in Israel, the American public must be informed as to the record and objectives of Mr. Begin and his movement.

    The public avowals of Begin’’s party are no guide whatever to its actual character. Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism, whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character; from its past actions we can judge what it may be expected to do in the future.

    Attack on Arab Village

    A shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin. This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had taken no part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to use the village as their base. On April 9 (THE NEW YORK TIMES), terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants —— 240 men, women, and children —— and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets of Jerusalem. Most of the Jewish community was horrified at the deed, and the Jewish Agency sent a telegram of apology to King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan. But the terrorists, far from being ashamed of their act, were proud of this massacre, publicized it widely, and invited all the foreign correspondents present in the country to view the heaped corpses and the general havoc at Deir Yassin.

    The Deir Yassin incident exemplifies the character and actions of the Freedom Party.

    Within the Jewish community they have preached an admixture of ultra-nationalism, religious mysticism, and racial superiority. Like other Fascist parties they have been used to break strikes, and have themselves pressed for the destruction of free trade unions. In their stead they have proposed corporate unions on the Italian Fascist model.

    During the last years of sporadic anti-British violence, the IZL and Stern groups inaugurated a reign of terror in the Palestine Jewish community. Teachers were beaten up for speaking against them, adults were shot for not letting their children join them. By gangster methods, beatings, window-smashing, and wide-spread robberies, the terrorists intimidated the population and exacted a heavy tribute.

    The people of the Freedom Party have had no part in the constructive achievements in Palestine. They have reclaimed no land, built no settlements, and only detracted from the Jewish defense activity. Their much-publicized immigration endeavors were minute, and devoted mainly to bringing in Fascist compatriots.

    Discrepancies Seen

    The discrepancies between the bold claims now being made by Begin and his party, and their record of past performance in Palestine bear the imprint of no ordinary political party. This is the unmistakable stamp of a Fascist party for whom terrorism (against Jews, Arabs, and British alike), and misrepresentation are means, and a “”Leader State”” is the goal.

    In the light of the foregoing considerations, it is imperative that the truth about Mr. Begin and his movement be made known in this country. It is all the more tragic that the top leadership of American Zionism has refused to campaign against Begin’’s efforts, or even to expose to its own constituents the dangers to Israel from support to Begin.

    The undersigned therefore take this means of publicly presenting a few salient facts concerning Begin and his party; and of urging all concerned not to support this latest manifestation of fascism.

    (signed)

    Isidore Abramowitz
    Hannah Arendt
    Abraham Brick
    Rabbi Jessurun Cardozo
    Albert Einstein
    Herman Eisen, M.D.
    Hayim Fineman
    M. Gallen, M.D.
    H.H. Harris
    Zelig S. Harris
    Sidney Hook
    Fred Karush
    Bruria Kaufman
    Irma L. Lindheim
    Nachman Maisel
    Symour Melman
    Myer D. Mendelson, M.D.
    Harry M. Orlinsky
    Samuel Pitlick
    Fritz Rohrlich
    Louis P. Rocke
    Ruth Sager
    Itzhak Sankowsky
    I.J. Schoenberg
    Samuel Shuman
    M. Znger
    Irma Wolpe
    Stefan Wolpe

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